[00:07] <waltman> !
[00:08] <pleia2> I am tired :)
[00:08] <rmg51> wouldn't the world come to an end if pleia2 started to skip beer?
[00:09] <pleia2> lol
[00:11] <Resistance> that would be bad
[00:11] <Resistance> because then i'd be forced to drink the beer
[00:11] <Resistance> and me + beer + weapons collection = warzone
[00:11] <pleia2> oh dear
[00:12] <waltman> One reason I'm tired is that I stayed up late finishing a book, and then posting a snarky review of it on amazon :)
[00:12] <waltman> http://www.amazon.com/review/R1GX9P8HX562TI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0441014186&nodeID=&tag=&linkCode=
[00:12] <pleia2> lol
[00:24]  * sadin has new awesome thing goin on :D
[00:26] <jthan> Anyone use zsh?
[00:26] <waltman> jthan: I do
[00:27] <jthan> Does it typically use less resources than bash?
[00:27] <waltman> I've never noticed any difference, to be honest.
[00:27] <pleia2> you are really concerned about the resources your interactive shell uses?
[00:27] <jthan> Lol.
[00:28] <jthan> waltman: I like zsh, but I'm always too lazy to really sit and configure it
[00:29] <pleia2> just steal someone else's config, that's what everyone else does
[00:29] <pleia2> I think only one person ever wrote a zsh config
[00:33] <jthan> lol
[00:38] <jthan> I miss all the fun we used to have in here
[00:41] <waltman> pleia2: I think it was zenoli :)
[00:42] <jthan> It was obviously someone named Adam
[00:43] <waltman> how so?
[00:44] <jthan> If you look at the default prompts.. there are two named "adam1" and "adam2"
[00:44] <jthan> obviously he had time to make two prompts, and therefore also wrote the configuration
[00:44] <waltman> I don't think I've ever seen the default prompt :)
[00:45] <jthan> run "prompt -l"
[00:47] <waltman> zsh: command not found: prompt
[00:48] <jthan> well you got owned
[00:49] <waltman> ?
[00:49] <jthan> It doesn't like you
[00:50] <waltman> ?
[00:50] <jthan> It works for me
[00:50] <waltman> not "_prompt"?
[00:51] <waltman> type "which prompt"
[00:51] <jthan> just "prompt"
[00:51] <waltman> from the command line?
[00:54] <jthan> waltman: http://paste2.org/p/1755199
[00:55] <waltman> I think it's because I'm not autoloading promptinit
[00:56] <jthan> could be
[00:57] <jthan> I am
[00:57] <jthan> :-p
[00:57] <JonathanD> japan is considering building a spare for tokyo.
[00:57] <JonathanD> A spare... city.
[00:57] <jthan> lol
[00:57] <jthan> Thanks for clarifying
[00:58] <JonathanD> We are really behind on the whole "DR" thing.
[00:58] <waltman> yep, that was it
[00:58] <JonathanD> I'm going to have to talk to my boss tomorrow about building a spare conshohocken somewhere.
[00:59] <JonathanD> http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8601550-will-japan-build-a-backup-tokyo
[01:16] <InHisName> jedijf: last -n5   gives help for my last.   Not supported.
[01:17] <InHisName> ll
[01:45] <InHisName> Going evil on us, now ?
[01:45] <EvilResistance> :P
[01:46] <MutantTurkey> oh boy
[01:47] <MutantTurkey> InHisName will have your head.
[02:03] <InHisName> what does this mean:    ----  Excess permission or bad ownership on file /var/log/btmp
[02:05] <InHisName> wtmp and btmp have SAME owner & group & permissions   but btmp gets that error in messages
[02:09] <InHisName> seems btmp needs to be diff from wtmp
[02:22] <InHisName> permission set to 600 not 622 or 666 for btmp
[06:57] <JonathanD> morning.
[09:09] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[10:58] <JonathanD> morning rmg51
[11:04] <rmg51> for a while there I thought you went back to sleep
[12:00] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:41] <JonathanD> rmg51: sleep?
[13:43] <teddy-dbear> sleep is for the weak and silly humans :-D
[14:40] <InHisName> Good Morning to all of you and rmg51 and teddy-dbear and JonathanD and Joe_CoT
[14:41] <waltman> good morning john-boy
[14:45] <InHisName> when ntpd says:  adjusting local clock by -0.164255s   is it speeding up my clock or slowing it down ?
[14:47] <waltman> umm, neither!
[14:47] <waltman> I'd guess the clock is running a tad fast, so ntpd set it back about 1/8 of a second
[14:47] <InHisName> 'k
[14:47] <waltman> the clock itself should run at a constant speed
[14:48] <MutantTurkey> yawn
[14:50] <InHisName> pretty close to constant,  its about 1/8 once per hour of adjustment.
[15:39] <jthan> My clock is forever wrong and I can't seem to fix it.
[15:39] <jthan> says right now it's 15:39
[15:39] <jthan> Timezone is set to my own...
[15:40] <MutantTurkey> clock broken? sync to clock. profix
[15:40] <jthan> sync to clock?
[15:42] <waltman> ntpdate to set it, then ntpd to keep it set
[15:43] <waltman> oh wait, you're 4 hours ahead? you're probably on gmt
[15:43] <waltman> or utc, whatever.
[15:43] <waltman> when you run "date" from the shell, what does it say?
[16:09] <rhpot1991> jthan: I have issues where my ntp doesn't run at work
[16:09] <rhpot1991> firewall access or something
[16:09] <rhpot1991> so my clock gets off until I fix it at home, by running ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[16:11] <waltman> do they have an internal time server you can use?
[16:12] <rhpot1991> dunno, I don't care too much
[16:13] <rhpot1991> personal laptop on business network, not going to push too hard
[16:13] <rhpot1991> ubuntu in a windows shop as well
[16:13] <rhpot1991> lots that can go wrong if I ask too much :)
[16:14] <waltman> nod :)
[17:57] <jthan> rhpot1991: this is my linode, so.. idk.
[23:50] <InHisName> quiet afternoon and evening.......