tsaavik | hey all, just had to power my xbuntu box down. I have 2 monitors and i'm getting mirrored desktop instead of spanned, where can I change this, can't find it anywhere! :D | 00:23 |
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xubuntuNewbie | looking for a lightweight distro that actually has some support for a newbie; Is this it? | 00:27 |
holstein | xubuntuNewbie: its free, and easy to run live... give it a try | 00:28 |
xubuntuNewbie | I actually am running live, and installing... ATM | 00:28 |
holstein | xubuntuNewbie: i will personally refund your money if you are not satisfied ;) | 00:28 |
xubuntuNewbie | This is my first time on IRC, too. So if I offend, plz let me know. | 00:29 |
xubuntuNewbie | lol | 00:29 |
EdgEy | I have been using linux for years, but recently switched to xubuntu | 00:35 |
EdgEy | haven't had to fiddle with anything for over a year | 00:35 |
EdgEy | everything just worked including video and wireless | 00:35 |
EdgEy | though, I don't play 3d games etc (ultraportable) | 00:35 |
holstein | tsaavik: what graphics hardware? | 00:36 |
tsaavik | intel builtin | 00:36 |
tsaavik | its mirroring like a champ, just can't find the swtich, lol | 00:37 |
holstein | hmmm... intel *should* be well supported | 00:37 |
holstein | might just need to make your own custom xorg.conf | 00:37 |
tsaavik | I was doing this before, I just powered down to move the PC :d | 00:37 |
tsaavik | Oh, I wonder if i booted as xfce instead of xubuntu! brb | 00:38 |
tsaavik | hmm, nope | 00:39 |
xubuntuNewbie | OK, time to boot my new OS. wish me luck. | 00:41 |
tsaavik | good luck :D | 00:41 |
tsaavik | sudo apt-get install arandr | 00:50 |
tsaavik | arandr, gui to fix it | 00:50 |
holstein | tsaavik: you got it? | 00:51 |
holstein | great :) | 00:51 |
tsaavik | yup :D | 00:51 |
xUbuntuNewbie | Is there a way to switch users, keeping this session open, but hidden? | 01:09 |
holstein | xUbuntuNewbie: i use screen for terminal apps | 01:11 |
holstein | im using irssi for chat in screen | 01:11 |
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babble | do I want to try living in Debian stable? | 01:36 |
S_SubZero | live in Debian UNstable | 01:41 |
babble | hehe. | 01:43 |
babble | I'm trying to wean myself off of tweaking with crud just because it's there to tweak ;) | 01:43 |
art_ | Hi everyone........I recently duplicated a drive using the dd command to make a second bootble hard drive copy of my primary drive. But, instead of removing the cloned drive for archive purposes, I rebooted the system. | 02:14 |
art_ | Now the cloned drive won't do anything, gparted can't detect it and the red led drive light stays on constantly and hangs when trying to boot. | 02:15 |
art_ | Is there any way to get control of the drive so that I can reformat it??? | 02:15 |
xubuntu585 | what is the meaning of "encrypt my home folder"? and what is the real function and benefits? | 02:49 |
xubuntu585 | anyone knows? and ca nexplain a little bit? | 02:50 |
Unit193 | Well, it encrypts your home folder, that's it's real functiom... | 02:51 |
holstein | yeah.. you lose you laptop | 02:52 |
Unit193 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome | 02:52 |
holstein | i boot into recover kernel reset the password and im in you data | 02:52 |
holstein | the encryption helps with that | 02:52 |
holstein | gives you more time to change passwords or whatever | 02:53 |
xubuntu585 | good, any special key need for the encryption? | 02:53 |
holstein | and maybe enough of a deterent for someone not to mess with it | 02:53 |
xubuntu585 | thanks guys! i've learned a bit more today. | 02:57 |
xubuntu585 | c u | 02:57 |
holstein | xubuntu585: hey | 02:58 |
holstein | i just set it up myself | 02:58 |
holstein | last week really | 02:58 |
holstein | its pretty seemless with the userpassword so far | 02:58 |
holstein | no deal breakers | 02:58 |
holstein | no reason *not* to do it on a laptop for sure | 02:58 |
Unit193 | Or you can always use TrueCrypt too ;) | 02:58 |
xubuntu585 | ok, i am starting the installation now. let me continue that.. | 02:59 |
xubuntu585 | c u. | 02:59 |
marion | good evening everyone | 03:40 |
marion | so i am in a bind here and i was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a static ip address | 03:41 |
holstein | marion: this is the gerneral guide i use when i setup a server box | 03:42 |
holstein | http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ | 03:42 |
holstein | but, you do it in the GUI in xubuntu or ubuntu or whatever | 03:43 |
holstein | click on the network icon... go to 'edit connections' | 03:43 |
holstein | go to the tab you want, wired or wireless | 03:43 |
holstein | select the connection and hit the 'edit' button | 03:43 |
holstein | go over to ipv4 (assuming thats what you are on) and select 'method - manual' | 03:44 |
holstein | fill it in | 03:44 |
holstein | at that point, i usually open a terminal and run ifconfig so i can see what information i need to put in there | 03:45 |
marion | thanks holstein. I swear I am gonna keep you on speed dial | 03:46 |
holstein | hehe | 03:46 |
marion | why does it say never under last used | 03:48 |
holstein | marion: i forget | 03:48 |
holstein | that was on the papercuts list AFAIK | 03:49 |
holstein | dont worry about it though, its not clear | 03:49 |
marion | weird that i can irc now | 03:51 |
marion | but I cant connect to web pages | 03:51 |
marion | do I really need to put in dns addresses | 03:51 |
holstein | yup | 03:51 |
holstein | i put the gateway | 03:51 |
holstein | my router | 03:51 |
holstein | you can use whatever | 03:52 |
holstein | i like open dns | 03:52 |
marion | is it 208.67.222.222 | 03:52 |
holstein | http://www.opendns.com/ 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 | 03:52 |
marion | correct me if i am wrong but the netmask is 255.255.255.0 right | 03:55 |
holstein | technically, that depends | 03:56 |
holstein | but, that should be the case | 03:56 |
holstein | thats why i run ifconfig in a terminal while still on DHCP | 03:56 |
holstein | you can see most of those settings | 03:56 |
marion | ok now got that fixed time to set up my printer scanner on here | 03:58 |
marion | my wife is 100% windows so i have a week to prove she can do everything she liked doing in windows on here | 03:59 |
holstein | yeah, good luck with that | 03:59 |
zenrox | i got my wife to switch | 03:59 |
holstein | the wife'll use what works if you stop fixing things for her | 03:59 |
zenrox | by doing just that | 03:59 |
marion | all she does is facebook email and image editing | 04:00 |
holstein | in what though? | 04:00 |
marion | thats why i am doing dual boot | 04:00 |
holstein | firefox? IE? | 04:00 |
marion | firefox | 04:00 |
holstein | what about the image editing? | 04:00 |
holstein | she wont reboot | 04:00 |
holstein | or thats my findings | 04:01 |
holstein | i wouldnt | 04:01 |
holstein | h | 04:01 |
zenrox | i switced my wife from ps to gimp | 04:01 |
zenrox | she loves gimp | 04:01 |
holstein | 'hey, let me edit a photo".... waiting 6 minutes for reboot | 04:01 |
marion | i havent done gimp yet | 04:01 |
holstein | the gimp is great | 04:01 |
holstein | inkscape too | 04:01 |
zenrox | very great | 04:01 |
holstein | those tutorials in inkscape are spot on | 04:02 |
marion | i do not remember how to install using a tar like i said i havent messed with linuc in like a year or so | 04:02 |
holstein | i would right click on it, and deal with it from there | 04:03 |
holstein | or do it in the terminal | 04:03 |
holstein | but, i try and find PPA's for apps | 04:03 |
holstein | then .debs | 04:03 |
holstein | otherwise i get some packages all over that i dont know what to do with | 04:03 |
holstein | anyways.. enjoy all... GN! | 04:04 |
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xUbuntuNewbie | looking for a way to switch users without logging out, I am new to xubuntu.... | 05:04 |
ball | Is it practical to install Xubuntu from a USB Flash drive? | 07:07 |
zenrox | i did it | 07:11 |
zenrox | ball | 07:11 |
ball | zenrox: What did you use to write the install image to the flash drive? | 07:12 |
ball | Unetbootin? (I'm googling ;-) | 07:15 |
* ball tries it | 07:19 | |
Shirakawasuna | ball: if you're already using ubuntu, you should have usb-creator-gtk | 07:21 |
Shirakawasuna | it's meant for exactly the purpose you need | 07:21 |
ball | Shirakawasuna: I have one Qimo machine around, which is a Xubuntu derivative, but I somehow removed from both of its users the ability to su. | 07:22 |
ball | ...so I thought I'd try a clean Xubuntu install and then look for my daughter's games as packages. | 07:23 |
ball | Looks like this is going to take a while. I'll head to bed and check on it in the morning. | 07:24 |
ball | Shirakawasuna & zenrox, Thanks for your help. | 07:24 |
DoverOs | installed nvidia drivers from their site, broke X xP | 08:09 |
Sysi | that's why you should use "Additional drivers" app | 08:10 |
Sysi | you propably need to edit/create xorg.conf, nvidia-xconfig does that automatically | 08:11 |
DoverOs | hmm | 08:12 |
DoverOs | ya, there was this pop up for the drivers, but i just decided to get the one from the site | 08:12 |
Sysi | and your xorg broke :) | 08:13 |
ubuntu | how do i like boot in rescue mode? | 08:14 |
S_SubZero | on Ubuntu if I installed anything newer than the nVidia 173 drivers it would become unstable and unusable. I'm afraid to try with Xubuntu since I have it working. | 08:14 |
ubuntu | 11.10 | 08:15 |
DoverOs | be afraid! :3 | 08:15 |
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peerAU | so | 08:30 |
peerAU | im still having problems with my network card | 08:30 |
peerAU | it wont accept routes | 08:30 |
peerAU | no matter what | 08:30 |
DoverOs | -doesn't know- | 08:31 |
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PolitikerNEU | Hi everyone, does anybody know how the "power manager" applet for XFCE is called (so that I can adjust brightness settings) | 11:22 |
PolitikerNEU | have found it: it's xfce4-power-manager | 11:32 |
uffo | does Ubuntu 12.04 get XFCE 4.10, it would be disaster if not because 5 years is looong time? | 12:54 |
uffo | Xubuntu i mean | 12:54 |
babble | uffo: I think it's really too soon to predict WHAT 12.04 will use for a community-maintained distribution like Xubunty | 12:58 |
babble | *Xubuntu | 12:58 |
babble | especially given that 4.10 isn't available *itself* yet | 12:59 |
uffo | i really have hope you devs that you avoid Ubuntu policy rules and bring 4.10 inside 12.04 - 5 years is wayy long for 4.10 | 13:02 |
uffo | i meant 5 years is long for 4.8 | 13:03 |
babble | uffo: well, again, it's not as if Xubuntu devs would be averse to including 4.10 | 13:12 |
babble | but still again, it's a community-maintained distribution. | 13:12 |
babble | that means the folks working on it are largely volunteers. | 13:12 |
babble | if there are any paid devs working on *Xubuntu*, I'd be surprised (pleasantly, but surprised) | 13:13 |
babble | it's largely a matter of when Xfce is ready, and when 12.04 is ready | 13:13 |
babble | if 12.04 doesn't ship with latest Xfce on its release date, there will very likely be a backport in due time. | 13:14 |
ochosi | uffo: it's highly unrealistic that 4.10 will be ready for 12.04, but yeah, this question is discussed by the dev-teaM | 13:38 |
mikem94590 | I'm looking at going the Xubuntu route (Xfce) given the way that Ubuntu/Unity/Gnome3 is going. My question here is; does Xubuntu have the same hardware support that Ubuntu does? | 17:27 |
Myrtti | yup | 17:27 |
mikem94590 | As in...I can install Ubuntu 11.10 and have all of my hardware/drivers/firmware working out of the box. So Xubuntu 11.10 would be the same, or are there drivers that are "stripped"? | 17:28 |
Sysi | nope, exactly the same | 17:28 |
Myrtti | the "drivers" are in the kernel, and the kernel is the same across all *buntus | 17:28 |
Sysi | !purexfce | 17:28 |
ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 17:28 |
mikem94590 | Wow, thanks! You've made my day here. | 17:29 |
mikem94590 | lol | 17:29 |
mikem94590 | See, I know I can install Xfce on a Ubuntu installation, but I'd rather just have a CD laying around for clean installs so I don't have to download Xfce on my slow connection every time I install/reinstall. | 17:30 |
tjingboem | where can i find sun-java for 11.10? | 17:33 |
genii-around | tjingboem: There is an unsupported ppa. https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/java?field.series_filter=oneiric | 17:52 |
tjingboem | genii_around, thanks for the link to the ppa | 18:57 |
genii-around | tjingboem: You're welcome | 18:59 |
kasztan85 | hi | 19:08 |
S_SubZero | hello | 19:11 |
babble | hello | 19:11 |
noob13 | hey, is there a reason fonts seem to be rendered differently in xfce4 and gnome? | 19:27 |
noob13 | i just switched, turned on all the smooth font settings, and yet, it looks a lot worse here for some reason | 19:27 |
msknight | Hi, sorry to barge in with a problem. Can anyone help with compiling "handbrake" on xubuntu 11.10 64 bit version please? | 19:27 |
noob13 | msknight: isn't there a .deb package? | 19:29 |
msknight | No, not yet. A ppa link, but no package for Onieric yet. | 19:29 |
Sysi | noob13: set hinting to RGB and test different hinting options, and possibly different fonts | 19:30 |
msknight | I have installed g++, yasm, libtool and autoconf. The error concerns.... "/usr/bin/ld: Cannot find -lbz2" which I think can probably be solved by a soft link, but that's only from generic searching. | 19:30 |
msknight | I don't know if a soft link will solve it ... or even if it will, I'm not sure what files to soft link. | 19:31 |
Sysi | msknight: use ppa or download .deb from there and try to install that | 19:33 |
msknight | Sysi, There is no onieric in the ppa, and no deb that I can find. | 19:34 |
noob13 | shouldn't the natty ppa work just fine? | 19:35 |
noob13 | excuse me if i'm wrong, i really have no clue | 19:35 |
msknight | noob13, I don't know how to override the PPA to tell it to get the natty ... if such a thing is possible. | 19:35 |
ScottE | msknight, the commandline version of handbrake works fine in 11.10. The gui version is supposed to be fixed soon. | 19:37 |
ScottE | I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the natty version won't work in 11.10 | 19:38 |
msknight | ScottE, I've checked the PPA for the CLI and I can't find Onieric in there, either. | 19:38 |
Sysi | https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa/+build/1713061 | 19:39 |
Sysi | IDK if that works but worth a try | 19:39 |
msknight | I'm downloading it now! I'm willing to try ... almost ... anything! | 19:40 |
ScottE | Sysi, doubtful, that's from may 2010 :-) | 19:40 |
Sysi | ugh, I picked from version anyway | 19:40 |
ScottE | I wish I could remember how I installed it, but that's on another box at home | 19:41 |
Sysi | ..no, that old | 19:41 |
msknight | Apparently I'm standing at the gates to dependency hell. | 19:41 |
ScottE | msknight, see if this helps https://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22230 | 19:43 |
ScottE | Pretty sure that's the ppa I used for cli version | 19:43 |
ScottE | (that is, the stebbins/handbrake-snapshots one) | 19:44 |
msknight | Looks like something is coming down. | 19:45 |
msknight | Yay, I'm up and running ... I think. | 19:45 |
msknight | Many thanks. | 19:45 |
ScottE | sure msknight, it will be nice when the full gui version is working again, but at least the cli is something | 19:45 |
msknight | Looks like the GUI version is running here. | 19:47 |
ScottE | oh great news msknight. I guess I should update from the latest snapshot too | 19:48 |
msknight | And to think I spent all that time trying to work out all those other compilation errors :-) | 19:49 |
msknight | Never mind, it was good practice! | 19:49 |
msknight | Well ... thanks for the help folks. Very kind of you. | 19:59 |
xubuntu306 | hello, everybody | 20:33 |
xubuntu306 | how i can disable monitor mirroring on my xubuntu | 20:34 |
xubuntu306 | ? | 20:34 |
Sysi | arandr or nvidia/ati-tool | 20:34 |
xubuntu306 | i have intel 945GM Chipset =( | 20:35 |
xubuntu306 | Sysi: so, what i should to do? | 20:36 |
well_laid_lawn | !info arandr | 20:36 |
ubottu | arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-1 (oneiric), package size 48 kB, installed size 376 kB | 20:36 |
xubuntu306 | only install Arandr, and i will solve my problem? | 20:36 |
Sysi | use it | 20:37 |
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Mahmoud | hi, why can't my xtfce4-terminal doesn't beep upon the execution of "beep" command, or echo -e "\a" | 21:51 |
Anom01y_ | hi, I recently upgraded xubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 | 21:54 |
Anom01y_ | my other Linux acct is no longer able to log on via xfce | 21:54 |
Anom01y_ | or maybe I never could log on in the first place | 21:54 |
Anom01y_ | but when I try I get "unable to load fail safe" error with a quit button, which I can'\t click | 21:55 |
Anom01y_ | so I have to reset the computer | 21:55 |
Anom01y_ | my main xfce acct works fine | 21:55 |
ISBB | afternoon | 22:49 |
ISBB | got a question of the n00b here | 22:50 |
ISBB | if anyone is around? | 22:50 |
alethiophile | possibly? | 22:50 |
ISBB | multi monitors w/ xubuntu | 22:50 |
ISBB | i cant get them to play the way i want | 22:50 |
ISBB | have 4 monitors 2 seperate nvidia cards.. nvidia's manager works OK but doesnt play right | 22:51 |
alethiophile | what doesn't play? | 22:51 |
ISBB | in a nut shell.. i have my one monitor as my main desktop and the other 3 as a giant twin view array | 22:51 |
alethiophile | unfortunately I probably can't help with that | 22:51 |
ISBB | lol no worries bud | 22:51 |
ISBB | coming over from windows trying to make things play the same | 22:52 |
Marion | Does xubuntu not support rpm.? | 22:52 |
alethiophile | it uses .deb by default | 22:52 |
ISBB | and im used to my 4 monitor setup. I have 3 i use regularly and the 4th is tucked off on the side for media | 22:52 |
alethiophile | Marion: you can use alien (in the repositories) to convert rpms to debs | 22:53 |
Marion | So I nees to dowload the deb instead | 22:53 |
alethiophile | if one is available, that would be easier | 22:53 |
Marion | Ok I'll have to try that when I get home | 22:53 |
well_laid_lawn | Marion: cheked if the app is in the repos? | 22:54 |
alethiophile | so: I have loadkeys, but the keymap files are missing | 22:54 |
alethiophile | where can I get them, and where the f*** is my computer getting its key mapping from on the TTYs? | 22:55 |
Marion | Its the drivers for my printer scanner | 22:55 |
Marion | So I have another question. How do I make it so that my computer never turns off the display. I have disabled power control however I still get my screen going off | 22:56 |
well_laid_lawn | Marion: in a terminal you can try xset -dpms | 23:07 |
ochosi | Marion: you can also look at the screensaver-settings | 23:19 |
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