[00:23] hey all, just had to power my xbuntu box down. I have 2 monitors and i'm getting mirrored desktop instead of spanned, where can I change this, can't find it anywhere! :D [00:27] looking for a lightweight distro that actually has some support for a newbie; Is this it? [00:28] xubuntuNewbie: its free, and easy to run live... give it a try [00:28] I actually am running live, and installing... ATM [00:28] xubuntuNewbie: i will personally refund your money if you are not satisfied ;) [00:29] This is my first time on IRC, too. So if I offend, plz let me know. [00:29] lol [00:35] I have been using linux for years, but recently switched to xubuntu [00:35] haven't had to fiddle with anything for over a year [00:35] everything just worked including video and wireless [00:35] though, I don't play 3d games etc (ultraportable) [00:36] tsaavik: what graphics hardware? [00:36] intel builtin [00:37] its mirroring like a champ, just can't find the swtich, lol [00:37] hmmm... intel *should* be well supported [00:37] might just need to make your own custom xorg.conf [00:37] I was doing this before, I just powered down to move the PC :d [00:38] Oh, I wonder if i booted as xfce instead of xubuntu! brb [00:39] hmm, nope [00:41] OK, time to boot my new OS. wish me luck. [00:41] good luck :D [00:50] sudo apt-get install arandr [00:50] arandr, gui to fix it [00:51] tsaavik: you got it? [00:51] great :) [00:51] yup :D [01:09] Is there a way to switch users, keeping this session open, but hidden? [01:11] xUbuntuNewbie: i use screen for terminal apps [01:11] im using irssi for chat in screen === emma is now known as Em [01:36] do I want to try living in Debian stable? [01:41] live in Debian UNstable [01:43] hehe. [01:43] I'm trying to wean myself off of tweaking with crud just because it's there to tweak ;) [02:14] Hi everyone........I recently duplicated a drive using the dd command to make a second bootble hard drive copy of my primary drive. But, instead of removing the cloned drive for archive purposes, I rebooted the system. [02:15] Now the cloned drive won't do anything, gparted can't detect it and the red led drive light stays on constantly and hangs when trying to boot. [02:15] Is there any way to get control of the drive so that I can reformat it??? [02:49] what is the meaning of "encrypt my home folder"? and what is the real function and benefits? [02:50] anyone knows? and ca nexplain a little bit? [02:51] Well, it encrypts your home folder, that's it's real functiom... [02:52] yeah.. you lose you laptop [02:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome [02:52] i boot into recover kernel reset the password and im in you data [02:52] the encryption helps with that [02:53] gives you more time to change passwords or whatever [02:53] good, any special key need for the encryption? [02:53] and maybe enough of a deterent for someone not to mess with it [02:57] thanks guys! i've learned a bit more today. [02:57] c u [02:58] xubuntu585: hey [02:58] i just set it up myself [02:58] last week really [02:58] its pretty seemless with the userpassword so far [02:58] no deal breakers [02:58] no reason *not* to do it on a laptop for sure [02:58] Or you can always use TrueCrypt too ;) [02:59] ok, i am starting the installation now. let me continue that.. [02:59] c u. [03:40] good evening everyone [03:41] so i am in a bind here and i was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a static ip address [03:42] marion: this is the gerneral guide i use when i setup a server box [03:42] http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ [03:43] but, you do it in the GUI in xubuntu or ubuntu or whatever [03:43] click on the network icon... go to 'edit connections' [03:43] go to the tab you want, wired or wireless [03:43] select the connection and hit the 'edit' button [03:44] go over to ipv4 (assuming thats what you are on) and select 'method - manual' [03:44] fill it in [03:45] at that point, i usually open a terminal and run ifconfig so i can see what information i need to put in there [03:46] thanks holstein. I swear I am gonna keep you on speed dial [03:46] hehe [03:48] why does it say never under last used [03:48] marion: i forget [03:49] that was on the papercuts list AFAIK [03:49] dont worry about it though, its not clear [03:51] weird that i can irc now [03:51] but I cant connect to web pages [03:51] do I really need to put in dns addresses [03:51] yup [03:51] i put the gateway [03:51] my router [03:52] you can use whatever [03:52] i like open dns [03:52] is it 208.67.222.222 [03:52] http://www.opendns.com/ 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 [03:55] correct me if i am wrong but the netmask is 255.255.255.0 right [03:56] technically, that depends [03:56] but, that should be the case [03:56] thats why i run ifconfig in a terminal while still on DHCP [03:56] you can see most of those settings [03:58] ok now got that fixed time to set up my printer scanner on here [03:59] my wife is 100% windows so i have a week to prove she can do everything she liked doing in windows on here [03:59] yeah, good luck with that [03:59] i got my wife to switch [03:59] the wife'll use what works if you stop fixing things for her [03:59] by doing just that [04:00] all she does is facebook email and image editing [04:00] in what though? [04:00] thats why i am doing dual boot [04:00] firefox? IE? [04:00] firefox [04:00] what about the image editing? [04:00] she wont reboot [04:01] or thats my findings [04:01] i wouldnt [04:01] h [04:01] i switced my wife from ps to gimp [04:01] she loves gimp [04:01] 'hey, let me edit a photo".... waiting 6 minutes for reboot [04:01] i havent done gimp yet [04:01] the gimp is great [04:01] inkscape too [04:01] very great [04:02] those tutorials in inkscape are spot on [04:02] i do not remember how to install using a tar like i said i havent messed with linuc in like a year or so [04:03] i would right click on it, and deal with it from there [04:03] or do it in the terminal [04:03] but, i try and find PPA's for apps [04:03] then .debs [04:03] otherwise i get some packages all over that i dont know what to do with [04:04] anyways.. enjoy all... GN! === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === Guest63461 is now known as epzil0n [05:04] looking for a way to switch users without logging out, I am new to xubuntu.... [07:07] Is it practical to install Xubuntu from a USB Flash drive? [07:11] i did it [07:11] ball [07:12] zenrox: What did you use to write the install image to the flash drive? [07:15] Unetbootin? (I'm googling ;-) [07:19] * ball tries it [07:21] ball: if you're already using ubuntu, you should have usb-creator-gtk [07:21] it's meant for exactly the purpose you need [07:22] Shirakawasuna: I have one Qimo machine around, which is a Xubuntu derivative, but I somehow removed from both of its users the ability to su. [07:23] ...so I thought I'd try a clean Xubuntu install and then look for my daughter's games as packages. [07:24] Looks like this is going to take a while. I'll head to bed and check on it in the morning. [07:24] Shirakawasuna & zenrox, Thanks for your help. [08:09] installed nvidia drivers from their site, broke X xP [08:10] that's why you should use "Additional drivers" app [08:11] you propably need to edit/create xorg.conf, nvidia-xconfig does that automatically [08:12] hmm [08:12] ya, there was this pop up for the drivers, but i just decided to get the one from the site [08:13] and your xorg broke :) [08:14] how do i like boot in rescue mode? [08:14] on Ubuntu if I installed anything newer than the nVidia 173 drivers it would become unstable and unusable. I'm afraid to try with Xubuntu since I have it working. [08:15] 11.10 [08:15] be afraid! :3 === ubuntu is now known as comp83276 [08:30] so [08:30] im still having problems with my network card [08:30] it wont accept routes [08:30] no matter what [08:31] -doesn't know- === peerAU is now known as rie === rie is now known as peerAU === peerAU is now known as rie === rie is now known as peerAU [11:22] Hi everyone, does anybody know how the "power manager" applet for XFCE is called (so that I can adjust brightness settings) [11:32] have found it: it's xfce4-power-manager [12:54] does Ubuntu 12.04 get XFCE 4.10, it would be disaster if not because 5 years is looong time? [12:54] Xubuntu i mean [12:58] uffo: I think it's really too soon to predict WHAT 12.04 will use for a community-maintained distribution like Xubunty [12:58] *Xubuntu [12:59] especially given that 4.10 isn't available *itself* yet [13:02] i really have hope you devs that you avoid Ubuntu policy rules and bring 4.10 inside 12.04 - 5 years is wayy long for 4.10 [13:03] i meant 5 years is long for 4.8 [13:12] uffo: well, again, it's not as if Xubuntu devs would be averse to including 4.10 [13:12] but still again, it's a community-maintained distribution. [13:12] that means the folks working on it are largely volunteers. [13:13] if there are any paid devs working on *Xubuntu*, I'd be surprised (pleasantly, but surprised) [13:13] it's largely a matter of when Xfce is ready, and when 12.04 is ready [13:14] if 12.04 doesn't ship with latest Xfce on its release date, there will very likely be a backport in due time. [13:38] uffo: it's highly unrealistic that 4.10 will be ready for 12.04, but yeah, this question is discussed by the dev-teaM [17:27] I'm looking at going the Xubuntu route (Xfce) given the way that Ubuntu/Unity/Gnome3 is going. My question here is; does Xubuntu have the same hardware support that Ubuntu does? [17:27] yup [17:28] As in...I can install Ubuntu 11.10 and have all of my hardware/drivers/firmware working out of the box. So Xubuntu 11.10 would be the same, or are there drivers that are "stripped"? [17:28] nope, exactly the same [17:28] the "drivers" are in the kernel, and the kernel is the same across all *buntus [17:28] !purexfce [17:28] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [17:29] Wow, thanks! You've made my day here. [17:29] lol [17:30] See, I know I can install Xfce on a Ubuntu installation, but I'd rather just have a CD laying around for clean installs so I don't have to download Xfce on my slow connection every time I install/reinstall. [17:33] where can i find sun-java for 11.10? [17:52] tjingboem: There is an unsupported ppa. https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/java?field.series_filter=oneiric [18:57] genii_around, thanks for the link to the ppa [18:59] tjingboem: You're welcome [19:08] hi [19:11] hello [19:11] hello [19:27] hey, is there a reason fonts seem to be rendered differently in xfce4 and gnome? [19:27] i just switched, turned on all the smooth font settings, and yet, it looks a lot worse here for some reason [19:27] Hi, sorry to barge in with a problem. Can anyone help with compiling "handbrake" on xubuntu 11.10 64 bit version please? [19:29] msknight: isn't there a .deb package? [19:29] No, not yet. A ppa link, but no package for Onieric yet. [19:30] noob13: set hinting to RGB and test different hinting options, and possibly different fonts [19:30] I have installed g++, yasm, libtool and autoconf. The error concerns.... "/usr/bin/ld: Cannot find -lbz2" which I think can probably be solved by a soft link, but that's only from generic searching. [19:31] I don't know if a soft link will solve it ... or even if it will, I'm not sure what files to soft link. [19:33] msknight: use ppa or download .deb from there and try to install that [19:34] Sysi, There is no onieric in the ppa, and no deb that I can find. [19:35] shouldn't the natty ppa work just fine? [19:35] excuse me if i'm wrong, i really have no clue [19:35] noob13, I don't know how to override the PPA to tell it to get the natty ... if such a thing is possible. [19:37] msknight, the commandline version of handbrake works fine in 11.10. The gui version is supposed to be fixed soon. [19:38] I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the natty version won't work in 11.10 [19:38] ScottE, I've checked the PPA for the CLI and I can't find Onieric in there, either. [19:39] https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa/+build/1713061 [19:39] IDK if that works but worth a try [19:40] I'm downloading it now! I'm willing to try ... almost ... anything! [19:40] Sysi, doubtful, that's from may 2010 :-) [19:40] ugh, I picked from version anyway [19:41] I wish I could remember how I installed it, but that's on another box at home [19:41] ..no, that old [19:41] Apparently I'm standing at the gates to dependency hell. [19:43] msknight, see if this helps https://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22230 [19:43] Pretty sure that's the ppa I used for cli version [19:44] (that is, the stebbins/handbrake-snapshots one) [19:45] Looks like something is coming down. [19:45] Yay, I'm up and running ... I think. [19:45] Many thanks. [19:45] sure msknight, it will be nice when the full gui version is working again, but at least the cli is something [19:47] Looks like the GUI version is running here. [19:48] oh great news msknight. I guess I should update from the latest snapshot too [19:49] And to think I spent all that time trying to work out all those other compilation errors :-) [19:49] Never mind, it was good practice! [19:59] Well ... thanks for the help folks. Very kind of you. [20:33] hello, everybody [20:34] how i can disable monitor mirroring on my xubuntu [20:34] ? [20:34] arandr or nvidia/ati-tool [20:35] i have intel 945GM Chipset =( [20:36] Sysi: so, what i should to do? [20:36] !info arandr [20:36] arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-1 (oneiric), package size 48 kB, installed size 376 kB [20:36] only install Arandr, and i will solve my problem? [20:37] use it === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [21:51] hi, why can't my xtfce4-terminal doesn't beep upon the execution of "beep" command, or echo -e "\a" [21:54] hi, I recently upgraded xubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 [21:54] my other Linux acct is no longer able to log on via xfce [21:54] or maybe I never could log on in the first place [21:55] but when I try I get "unable to load fail safe" error with a quit button, which I can'\t click [21:55] so I have to reset the computer [21:55] my main xfce acct works fine [22:49] afternoon [22:50] got a question of the n00b here [22:50] if anyone is around? [22:50] possibly? [22:50] multi monitors w/ xubuntu [22:50] i cant get them to play the way i want [22:51] have 4 monitors 2 seperate nvidia cards.. nvidia's manager works OK but doesnt play right [22:51] what doesn't play? [22:51] in a nut shell.. i have my one monitor as my main desktop and the other 3 as a giant twin view array [22:51] unfortunately I probably can't help with that [22:51] lol no worries bud [22:52] coming over from windows trying to make things play the same [22:52] Does xubuntu not support rpm.? [22:52] it uses .deb by default [22:52] and im used to my 4 monitor setup. I have 3 i use regularly and the 4th is tucked off on the side for media [22:53] Marion: you can use alien (in the repositories) to convert rpms to debs [22:53] So I nees to dowload the deb instead [22:53] if one is available, that would be easier [22:53] Ok I'll have to try that when I get home [22:54] Marion: cheked if the app is in the repos? [22:54] so: I have loadkeys, but the keymap files are missing [22:55] where can I get them, and where the f*** is my computer getting its key mapping from on the TTYs? [22:55] Its the drivers for my printer scanner [22:56] So I have another question. How do I make it so that my computer never turns off the display. I have disabled power control however I still get my screen going off [23:07] Marion: in a terminal you can try xset -dpms [23:19] Marion: you can also look at the screensaver-settings === `mOOse` is now known as m00se