[00:23] <tsaavik> hey all, just had to power my xbuntu box down. I have 2 monitors and i'm getting mirrored desktop instead of spanned, where can I change this, can't find it anywhere! :D
[00:27] <xubuntuNewbie> looking for a lightweight distro that actually has some support for a newbie;  Is this it?
[00:28] <holstein> xubuntuNewbie: its free, and easy to run live... give it a try
[00:28] <xubuntuNewbie> I actually am running live, and installing... ATM
[00:28] <holstein> xubuntuNewbie: i will personally refund your money if you are not satisfied ;)
[00:29] <xubuntuNewbie> This is my first time on IRC, too.  So if I offend, plz let me know.
[00:29] <xubuntuNewbie> lol
[00:35] <EdgEy> I have been using linux for years, but recently switched to xubuntu
[00:35] <EdgEy> haven't had to fiddle with anything for over a year
[00:35] <EdgEy> everything just worked including video and wireless
[00:35] <EdgEy> though, I don't play 3d games etc (ultraportable)
[00:36] <holstein> tsaavik: what graphics hardware?
[00:36] <tsaavik> intel builtin
[00:37] <tsaavik> its mirroring like a champ, just can't find the swtich, lol
[00:37] <holstein> hmmm... intel *should* be well supported
[00:37] <holstein> might just need to make your own custom xorg.conf
[00:37] <tsaavik> I was doing this before, I just powered down to move the PC :d
[00:38] <tsaavik> Oh, I wonder if i booted as xfce instead of xubuntu! brb
[00:39] <tsaavik> hmm, nope
[00:41] <xubuntuNewbie> OK, time to boot my new OS. wish me luck.
[00:41] <tsaavik> good luck :D
[00:50] <tsaavik> sudo apt-get install arandr
[00:50] <tsaavik> arandr, gui to fix it
[00:51] <holstein> tsaavik: you got it?
[00:51] <holstein> great :)
[00:51] <tsaavik> yup :D
[01:09] <xUbuntuNewbie> Is there a way to switch users, keeping this session open, but hidden?
[01:11] <holstein> xUbuntuNewbie: i use screen for terminal apps
[01:11] <holstein> im using irssi for chat in screen
[01:36] <babble> do I want to try living in Debian stable?
[01:41] <S_SubZero> live in Debian UNstable
[01:43] <babble> hehe.
[01:43] <babble> I'm trying to wean myself off of tweaking with crud just because it's there to tweak ;)
[02:14] <art_> Hi everyone........I recently duplicated a drive using the dd command to make a second bootble hard drive copy of my primary drive. But, instead of removing the cloned drive for archive purposes, I rebooted the system.
[02:15] <art_> Now the cloned drive won't do anything, gparted can't detect it and the red led drive light stays on constantly and hangs when trying to boot.
[02:15] <art_> Is there any way to get control of the drive so that I can reformat it???
[02:49] <xubuntu585> what is the meaning of "encrypt my home folder"? and what is the real function and benefits?
[02:50] <xubuntu585> anyone knows? and  ca nexplain a little bit?
[02:51] <Unit193> Well, it encrypts your home folder, that's it's real functiom...
[02:52] <holstein> yeah.. you lose you laptop
[02:52] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[02:52] <holstein> i boot into recover kernel reset the password and im in you data
[02:52] <holstein> the encryption helps with that
[02:53] <holstein> gives you more time to change passwords or whatever
[02:53] <xubuntu585> good, any special key need for the encryption?
[02:53] <holstein> and maybe enough of a deterent for someone not to mess with it
[02:57] <xubuntu585> thanks guys! i've learned a bit more today.
[02:57] <xubuntu585> c u
[02:58] <holstein> xubuntu585: hey
[02:58] <holstein> i just set it up myself
[02:58] <holstein> last week really
[02:58] <holstein> its pretty seemless with the userpassword so far
[02:58] <holstein> no deal breakers
[02:58] <holstein> no reason *not* to do it on a laptop for sure
[02:58] <Unit193> Or you can always use TrueCrypt too ;)
[02:59] <xubuntu585> ok, i am starting the installation now. let me continue that..
[02:59] <xubuntu585> c u.
[03:40] <marion> good evening everyone
[03:41] <marion> so i am in a bind here and i was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a static ip address
[03:42] <holstein> marion: this is the gerneral guide i use when i setup a server box
[03:42] <holstein> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[03:43] <holstein> but, you do it in the GUI in xubuntu or ubuntu or whatever
[03:43] <holstein> click on the network icon... go to 'edit connections'
[03:43] <holstein> go to the tab you want, wired or wireless
[03:43] <holstein> select the connection and hit the 'edit' button
[03:44] <holstein> go over to ipv4 (assuming thats what you are on) and select 'method - manual'
[03:44] <holstein> fill it in
[03:45] <holstein> at that point, i usually open a terminal and run ifconfig so i can see what information i need to put in there
[03:46] <marion> thanks holstein. I swear I am gonna keep you on speed dial
[03:46] <holstein> hehe
[03:48] <marion> why does it say never under last used
[03:48] <holstein> marion: i forget
[03:49] <holstein> that was on the papercuts list AFAIK
[03:49] <holstein> dont worry about it though, its not clear
[03:51] <marion> weird that i can irc now
[03:51] <marion> but I cant connect to web pages
[03:51] <marion> do I really need to put in dns addresses
[03:51] <holstein> yup
[03:51] <holstein> i put the gateway
[03:51] <holstein> my router
[03:52] <holstein> you can use whatever
[03:52] <holstein> i like open dns
[03:52] <marion> is it 208.67.222.222
[03:52] <holstein> http://www.opendns.com/ 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[03:55] <marion> correct me if i am wrong but the netmask is 255.255.255.0 right
[03:56] <holstein> technically, that depends
[03:56] <holstein> but, that should be the case
[03:56] <holstein> thats why i run ifconfig in a terminal while still on DHCP
[03:56] <holstein> you can see most of those settings
[03:58] <marion> ok now got that fixed time to set up my printer scanner on here
[03:59] <marion> my wife is 100% windows so i have a week to prove she can do everything she liked doing in windows on here
[03:59] <holstein> yeah, good luck with that
[03:59] <zenrox> i got my wife to switch
[03:59] <holstein> the wife'll use what works if you stop fixing things for her
[03:59] <zenrox> by doing just that
[04:00] <marion> all she does is facebook email and image editing
[04:00] <holstein> in what though?
[04:00] <marion> thats why i am doing dual boot
[04:00] <holstein> firefox? IE?
[04:00] <marion> firefox
[04:00] <holstein> what about the image editing?
[04:00] <holstein> she wont reboot
[04:01] <holstein> or thats my findings
[04:01] <holstein> i wouldnt
[04:01] <holstein> h
[04:01] <zenrox> i switced my wife from ps to gimp
[04:01] <zenrox> she loves gimp
[04:01] <holstein> 'hey, let me edit a photo".... waiting 6 minutes for reboot
[04:01] <marion> i havent done gimp yet
[04:01] <holstein> the gimp is great
[04:01] <holstein> inkscape too
[04:01] <zenrox> very great
[04:02] <holstein> those tutorials in inkscape are spot on
[04:02] <marion> i do not remember how to install using a tar like i said i havent messed with linuc in like a year or so
[04:03] <holstein> i would right click on it, and deal with it from there
[04:03] <holstein> or do it in the terminal
[04:03] <holstein> but, i try and find PPA's for apps
[04:03] <holstein> then .debs
[04:03] <holstein> otherwise i get some packages all over that i dont know what to do with
[04:04] <holstein> anyways.. enjoy all... GN!
[05:04] <xUbuntuNewbie> looking for a way to switch users without logging out, I am new to xubuntu....
[07:07] <ball> Is it practical to install Xubuntu from a USB Flash drive?
[07:11] <zenrox> i did it
[07:11] <zenrox> ball
[07:12] <ball> zenrox: What did you use to write the install image to the flash drive?
[07:15] <ball> Unetbootin? (I'm googling ;-)
[07:19]  * ball tries it
[07:21] <Shirakawasuna> ball: if you're already using ubuntu, you should have usb-creator-gtk
[07:21] <Shirakawasuna> it's meant for exactly the purpose you need
[07:22] <ball> Shirakawasuna: I have one Qimo machine around, which is a Xubuntu derivative, but I somehow removed from both of its users the ability to su.
[07:23] <ball> ...so I thought I'd try a clean Xubuntu install and then look for my daughter's games as packages.
[07:24] <ball> Looks like this is going to take a while.  I'll head to bed and check on it in the morning.
[07:24] <ball> Shirakawasuna & zenrox, Thanks for your help.
[08:09] <DoverOs> installed nvidia drivers from their site, broke X xP
[08:10] <Sysi> that's why you should use "Additional drivers" app
[08:11] <Sysi> you propably need to edit/create xorg.conf, nvidia-xconfig does that automatically
[08:12] <DoverOs> hmm
[08:12] <DoverOs> ya, there was this pop up for the drivers, but i just decided to get the one from the site
[08:13] <Sysi> and your xorg broke :)
[08:14] <ubuntu> how do i like boot in rescue mode?
[08:14] <S_SubZero> on Ubuntu if I installed anything newer than the nVidia 173 drivers it would become unstable and unusable.  I'm afraid to try with Xubuntu since I have it working.
[08:15] <ubuntu> 11.10
[08:15] <DoverOs> be afraid! :3
[08:30] <peerAU> so
[08:30] <peerAU> im still having problems with my network card
[08:30] <peerAU> it wont accept routes
[08:30] <peerAU> no matter what
[08:31] <DoverOs> -doesn't know-
[11:22] <PolitikerNEU> Hi everyone, does anybody know how the "power manager" applet for XFCE is called (so that I can adjust brightness settings)
[11:32] <PolitikerNEU> have found it: it's xfce4-power-manager
[12:54] <uffo> does Ubuntu 12.04 get XFCE 4.10, it would be disaster if not because 5 years is looong time?
[12:54] <uffo> Xubuntu i mean
[12:58] <babble> uffo: I think it's really too soon to predict WHAT 12.04 will use for a community-maintained distribution like Xubunty
[12:58] <babble> *Xubuntu
[12:59] <babble> especially given that 4.10 isn't available *itself* yet
[13:02] <uffo> i really have hope you devs that you avoid Ubuntu policy rules and bring 4.10 inside 12.04 - 5 years is wayy long for 4.10
[13:03] <uffo> i meant 5 years is long for 4.8
[13:12] <babble> uffo: well, again, it's not as if Xubuntu devs would be averse to including 4.10
[13:12] <babble> but still again, it's a community-maintained distribution.
[13:12] <babble> that means the folks working on it are largely volunteers.
[13:13] <babble> if there are any paid devs working on *Xubuntu*, I'd be surprised (pleasantly, but surprised)
[13:13] <babble> it's largely a matter of when Xfce is ready, and when 12.04 is ready
[13:14] <babble> if 12.04 doesn't ship with latest Xfce on its release date, there will very likely be a backport in due time.
[13:38] <ochosi> uffo: it's highly unrealistic that 4.10 will be ready for 12.04, but yeah, this question is discussed by the dev-teaM
[17:27] <mikem94590> I'm looking at going the Xubuntu route (Xfce) given the way that Ubuntu/Unity/Gnome3 is going.  My question here is; does Xubuntu have the same hardware support that Ubuntu does?
[17:27] <Myrtti> yup
[17:28] <mikem94590> As in...I can install Ubuntu 11.10 and have all of my hardware/drivers/firmware working out of the box.  So Xubuntu 11.10 would be the same, or are there drivers that are "stripped"?
[17:28] <Sysi> nope, exactly the same
[17:28] <Myrtti> the "drivers" are in the kernel, and the kernel is the same across all *buntus
[17:28] <Sysi> !purexfce
[17:29] <mikem94590> Wow, thanks!  You've made my day here.
[17:29] <mikem94590> lol
[17:30] <mikem94590> See, I know I can install Xfce on a Ubuntu installation, but I'd rather just have a CD laying around for clean installs so I don't have to download Xfce on my slow connection every time I install/reinstall.
[17:33] <tjingboem> where can i find sun-java for 11.10?
[17:52] <genii-around> tjingboem: There is an unsupported ppa. https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/java?field.series_filter=oneiric
[18:57] <tjingboem> genii_around, thanks for the link to the ppa
[18:59] <genii-around> tjingboem: You're welcome
[19:08] <kasztan85> hi
[19:11] <S_SubZero> hello
[19:11] <babble> hello
[19:27] <noob13> hey, is there a reason fonts seem to be rendered differently in xfce4 and gnome?
[19:27] <noob13> i just switched, turned on all the smooth font settings, and yet, it looks a lot worse here for some reason
[19:27] <msknight> Hi, sorry to barge in with a problem. Can anyone help with compiling "handbrake" on xubuntu 11.10 64 bit version please?
[19:29] <noob13> msknight: isn't there a .deb package?
[19:29] <msknight> No, not yet. A ppa link, but no package for Onieric yet.
[19:30] <Sysi> noob13: set hinting to RGB and test different hinting options, and possibly different fonts
[19:30] <msknight> I have installed g++, yasm, libtool and autoconf. The error concerns.... "/usr/bin/ld: Cannot find -lbz2" which I think can probably be solved by a soft link, but that's only from generic searching.
[19:31] <msknight> I don't know if a soft link will solve it ... or even if it will, I'm not sure what files to soft link.
[19:33] <Sysi> msknight: use ppa or download .deb from there and try to install that
[19:34] <msknight> Sysi, There is no onieric in the ppa, and no deb that I can find.
[19:35] <noob13> shouldn't the natty ppa work just fine?
[19:35] <noob13> excuse me if i'm wrong, i really have no clue
[19:35] <msknight> noob13, I don't know how to override the PPA to tell it to get the natty ... if such a thing is possible.
[19:37] <ScottE> msknight, the commandline version of handbrake works fine in 11.10. The gui version is supposed to be fixed soon.
[19:38] <ScottE> I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the natty version won't work in 11.10
[19:38] <msknight> ScottE, I've checked the PPA for the CLI and I can't find Onieric in there, either.
[19:39] <Sysi> https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa/+build/1713061
[19:39] <Sysi> IDK if that works but worth  a try
[19:40] <msknight> I'm downloading it now! I'm willing to try ... almost ... anything!
[19:40] <ScottE> Sysi, doubtful, that's from may 2010 :-)
[19:40] <Sysi> ugh, I picked from version anyway
[19:41] <ScottE> I wish I could remember how I installed it, but that's on another box at home
[19:41] <Sysi> ..no, that old
[19:41] <msknight> Apparently I'm standing at the gates to dependency hell.
[19:43] <ScottE> msknight, see if this helps https://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=22230
[19:43] <ScottE> Pretty sure that's the ppa I used for cli version
[19:44] <ScottE> (that is, the stebbins/handbrake-snapshots one)
[19:45] <msknight> Looks like something is coming down.
[19:45] <msknight> Yay, I'm up and running ... I think.
[19:45] <msknight> Many thanks.
[19:45] <ScottE> sure msknight, it will be nice when the full gui version is working again, but at least the cli is something
[19:47] <msknight> Looks like the GUI version is running here.
[19:48] <ScottE> oh great news msknight. I guess I should update from the latest snapshot too
[19:49] <msknight> And to think I spent all that time trying to work out all those other compilation errors :-)
[19:49] <msknight> Never mind, it was good practice!
[19:59] <msknight> Well ... thanks for the help folks. Very kind of you.
[20:33] <xubuntu306> hello, everybody
[20:34] <xubuntu306> how i can disable monitor mirroring on my xubuntu
[20:34] <xubuntu306> ?
[20:34] <Sysi> arandr or nvidia/ati-tool
[20:35] <xubuntu306> i have intel 945GM Chipset =(
[20:36] <xubuntu306> Sysi: so, what i should to do?
[20:36] <well_laid_lawn> !info arandr
[20:36] <xubuntu306> only install Arandr, and i will solve my problem?
[20:37] <Sysi> use it
[21:51] <Mahmoud> hi, why can't my xtfce4-terminal doesn't beep upon the execution of "beep" command, or echo -e "\a"
[21:54] <Anom01y_> hi, I recently upgraded xubuntu 10.10 to 11.04
[21:54] <Anom01y_> my other Linux acct is no longer able to log on via xfce
[21:54] <Anom01y_> or maybe I never could log on in the first place
[21:55] <Anom01y_> but when I try I get "unable to load fail safe" error with a quit button, which I can'\t click
[21:55] <Anom01y_> so I have to reset the computer
[21:55] <Anom01y_> my main xfce acct works fine
[22:49] <ISBB> afternoon
[22:50] <ISBB> got a question of the n00b here
[22:50] <ISBB> if anyone is around?
[22:50] <alethiophile> possibly?
[22:50] <ISBB> multi monitors w/ xubuntu
[22:50] <ISBB> i cant get them to play the way i want
[22:51] <ISBB> have 4 monitors 2 seperate nvidia cards.. nvidia's manager works OK but doesnt play right
[22:51] <alethiophile> what doesn't play?
[22:51] <ISBB> in a nut shell.. i have my one monitor as my main desktop and the other 3 as a giant twin view array
[22:51] <alethiophile> unfortunately I probably can't help with that
[22:51] <ISBB> lol no worries bud
[22:52] <ISBB> coming over from windows trying to make things play the same
[22:52] <Marion> Does xubuntu not support rpm.?
[22:52] <alethiophile> it uses .deb by default
[22:52] <ISBB> and im used to my 4 monitor setup.  I have 3 i use regularly and the 4th is tucked off on the side for media
[22:53] <alethiophile> Marion: you can use alien (in the repositories) to convert rpms to debs
[22:53] <Marion> So I nees to dowload the deb instead
[22:53] <alethiophile> if one is available, that would be easier
[22:53] <Marion> Ok I'll have to try that when I get home
[22:54] <well_laid_lawn> Marion: cheked if the app is in the repos?
[22:54] <alethiophile> so: I have loadkeys, but the keymap files are missing
[22:55] <alethiophile> where can I get them, and where the f*** is my computer getting its key mapping from on the TTYs?
[22:55] <Marion> Its the drivers for my printer scanner
[22:56] <Marion> So I have another question.  How do I make it so that my computer never turns off the display. I have disabled power control however I still get my screen going off
[23:07] <well_laid_lawn> Marion: in a terminal you can try   xset -dpms
[23:19] <ochosi> Marion: you can also look at the screensaver-settings