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| ptrkmj | Hi there. Is lubuntu provisoned with software to build kernel from it? | 01:13 |
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| lubuntu214 | wants to disable startup apps. I know that "Check for new hardware drivers" isn't necessary so I turned that off. what about "Disk NOtifications" and "Notification Daemon"? | 01:38 |
| lubuntu214 | all the other apps I know are a total must | 01:39 |
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| buzz_ | running lubuntu oneiric. from the login screen "lubuntu netbook" session, returns right away back to the login. known issue, or ideas to debug ? | 11:40 |
| buzz_ | lxdm.log shows "/usr/bin/startlubuntu-netbook lang" being run | 11:41 |
| l33 | hi | 12:53 |
| l33 | hi | 12:53 |
| faint545 | how do i customize the notification popups? sometimes they go off the screen and get cut off. | 12:57 |
| faint545 | im using lubuntu 11.10 btw | 12:57 |
| l33 | i guess in the "start menu" under preferences desktop session settings you can switch this service on and off by disabling to load it on startup automagically ;) | 13:01 |
| jita | How do i decrease the brightness of my desktop ? | 13:34 |
| bioterror | laptop or desktop? | 13:35 |
| jita | bioterror: laptop | 13:35 |
| jita | bioterror: fn + f4 isnt working | 13:35 |
| bioterror | you usually have a key combo for that | 13:35 |
| jita | bioterror: got it, it was up down arrow keys thanks | 13:36 |
| jita | bioterror: would it remember when i reboot ? | 13:36 |
| bioterror | give a shot :) | 13:36 |
| jita | cool ty | 13:36 |
| jita | bioterror: nope it just sets back to maximum | 13:38 |
| Cheapshot | wonder why there isnt a gui for setting gamma | 13:45 |
| Cheapshot | atleast xgamma works perfectly | 13:45 |
| jita | How can i make lubuntu 11.10 remember the brightness of my laptop | 13:46 |
| jita | it seems to revert to max upon rebooting | 13:47 |
| Cheapshot | jita: Have you checked your power manager? Check if you have something in the monitor section there. | 13:54 |
| Cheapshot | jita: There is a setting for automatically drop your brightness to a certain level when idle for a period of time etc.. | 13:54 |
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| croque | Is there any way to make a given application "live in the system tray"? Basically like Xchat or Pidgin does, but for another app (I'm thinking of Task Manager, Conky, things like that). | 14:02 |
| glauce | hi folks lxappearance (11.10) doesn't previewing openbox themes as it should be... any thoughts? | 14:41 |
| jita | whenever i open the run dialog using alt+F2, the run command opens in the background. | 16:13 |
| jita | Is there a way to launch it on the foreground | 16:13 |
| OneKorea | hi, im trying out lubuntu in vmware, just installed and booted up, and kinda suprised to see using 214mb of ram. Is that normal, as I was actually expected it to be lighter? | 16:15 |
| * wxl yawns | 17:58 | |
| === AmberJ is now known as JainAmber | ||
| === AmberJ is now known as JainAmber | ||
| pmatulis | hi gang. how do i create a key binding to maximize a window? | 18:23 |
| Unit193 | Alt+space+x should do it by default | 18:25 |
| wxl | http://t.co/HslXxq4b | 18:26 |
| wxl | oops | 18:26 |
| wxl | nevermind that | 18:26 |
| wxl | <action name="ToggleMaximizeFull"/> in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml | 18:26 |
| wxl | assuming you know how to do hotkeys | 18:27 |
| Unit193 | Note that this isn't the same, but may give you an idea https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F | 18:27 |
| pmatulis | Unit193, wxl: thanks, i'll go from there | 18:29 |
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| gwish | hello good people :) is it possible to change LXDE theme to dark? I'm either searching by wrong keywords, or I'm missing the obvious, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to theme my lubuntu in a dark fashion... | 22:18 |
| gwish | all I've found is to change just the title-bar and bottom panel, but not about the color of overall windows and buttons and stuff | 22:19 |
| Unit193 | lxappearance may be what you're looking for | 22:20 |
| wxl | preferences > customize look and feel | 22:20 |
| gwish | wxl: ah, thanks | 22:21 |
| wxl | use color tab | 22:21 |
| gwish | I've originally installed Ubuntu, then lubuntu over it and I have a mess of menu entries right now | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | !purelxde | Give this a shot | 22:21 |
| ubot5 | Give this a shot: If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » | 22:21 |
| wxl | ^^ what he said | 22:21 |
| gwish | wxl: thanks a lot, this helps :D | 22:21 |
| gwish | Unit193: thanks, I'll try that as well :) | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | Right-o | 22:22 |
| gwish | well, you guys answered more than I had hoped, big thanks to all and have a nice day :) | 22:26 |
| eztk | thanks unit193, following that as well. lubuntu is working like a charm on my almost 10 year old laptop! | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | Great! That's always a good one | 22:30 |
| eztk | unit193: its running even better than x pee! just trying to find intel optimised drivers for the on-board graphics... not very smooth when it comes to youtube and stuff like that | 22:31 |
| Unit193 | I'd guess jockey wouldn't pull something in, but getting X to configure may help (Without X running, sudo x --configure) | 22:33 |
| eztk | thanks again :-) | 22:33 |
| wxl | that reminds me, i need to try nv over nouveau | 22:36 |
| dynafish | hi everybody | 22:41 |
| dynafish | have a swap question | 22:41 |
| dynafish | gparted shows my swap partition as unknown, I am using an encrypted home partition btw | 22:42 |
| dynafish | free -m shows swap but usage is 0 | 22:42 |
| dynafish | and I get the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1/ not ready at boot | 22:43 |
| dynafish | does lubuntu mount swap after login due to encryption? | 22:43 |
| dynafish | or do I need to reformat the swap and add to fstab? | 22:44 |
| dynafish | the partition does show up in etc/cypttab | 22:45 |
| dynafish | hi M0hi | 22:45 |
| M0hi | o/ | 22:46 |
| dynafish | I have a question if you an help | 22:46 |
| M0hi | o/) | 22:47 |
| M0hi | I ll try my best =)* | 22:47 |
| dynafish | I installed lubuntu 11.10 on my netbook and gparted shows my swap partition as unknown, I encrypted my home partiion btw | 22:47 |
| dynafish | swap shows up in /et/crypttab but not fstab | 22:48 |
| dynafish | and free -m shows swap avaiable with 0 usage | 22:48 |
| dynafish | wondering if lubuntu is able to use my swap or if I should eformat the swap and add to fstab | 22:49 |
| wxl | i have that same problem | 22:51 |
| eztk | dynafish: i get that same error on boot up about that thing not being ready... i just keep ignoring it for now. would be interesting to know how to fix that. | 22:51 |
| wxl | same problem meaning sharing swap | 22:52 |
| dynafish | I wonder if it mounts the partition at all | 22:52 |
| wxl | EVERYONE has that problem with crypttab | 22:52 |
| wxl | so i had a debian partition and an ubuntu partition | 22:52 |
| wxl | trying to share swap with them | 22:52 |
| wxl | ubuntu = lubuntu btwq | 22:52 |
| dynafish | pretty clever | 22:53 |
| wxl | so i set up one with the uuid of the other and it's like the uuid changed so then it didn't work with the first | 22:53 |
| wxl | so i'm still in process of figuring that out | 22:53 |
| dynafish | I could reformat and add to fstab with uuid | 22:53 |
| dynafish | but the swap would be unencrypted that way I am sure | 22:53 |
| wxl | yep | 22:54 |
| wxl | assumedly you want encrypted? | 22:54 |
| dynafish | not like I am storing cia docs but still lol | 22:54 |
| dynafish | encrypted would be nice | 22:54 |
| dynafish | I have seen this in the forums allot | 22:55 |
| wxl | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome#Caveats | 22:56 |
| wxl | sounds like there's some bugaboos with it | 22:56 |
| dynafish | I used sresstestapp and put lubuntu under a 2000mb load on the ram and it froze up (have 2gig ram) so I assume lubuntu is not using the swap but I am not positie | 22:57 |
| dynafish | ty wxl | 22:57 |
| dynafish | keyboard batteries low :( | 22:58 |
| wxl | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/ecryptfs-setup-swap.1.html | 22:58 |
| wxl | apparently it's still a bug if the man page is to be believed | 22:58 |
| wxl | so as long as you don't give a crap about hibernate you could encrypt swap | 22:59 |
| dynafish | with 2gigs of ram I may not even need it but it would be nice | 23:00 |
| wxl | hm i guess i didn't encrypt swap on this vm | 23:00 |
| dynafish | so it is a bug and lubuntu isn't using the swap though as is | 23:01 |
| wxl | i do have a swap tho | 23:01 |
| dynafish | I mainly encrypted it in case my netbook is lost that someone wih a live cd couldn' access my data so maybe encrypted swap isn't neessary | 23:02 |
| dynafish | *necessary | 23:03 |
| dynafish | I did a net install of SUSE and encryped home and when I neglected to supply password it booted ino a minimal x wih root access lol | 23:04 |
| dynafish | that was the end of suse on my netbook :) | 23:04 |
| dynafish | well I wonder what I should do then maybe I will just put debian squeeze on it | 23:05 |
| wxl | i swear #ubuntu is so full of random chatter and crosstalk you can never get a word in edgewise | 23:06 |
| wxl | anyways check this out too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3 | 23:07 |
| dynafish | ty | 23:08 |
| wxl | np | 23:09 |
| wxl | i'd suggest debian or arch if you're looking for something else to play with | 23:09 |
| wxl | if you want to get hardcore, there's only one: slackware :D | 23:09 |
| * nlsthzn_ has had more trouble with debian than slackware :) | 23:10 | |
| wxl | hah now THAT'S funny | 23:11 |
| wxl | debian was a pita to install for me | 23:11 |
| wxl | part of that's because i have a ppc | 23:11 |
| wxl | i used the net install and set up the base system | 23:11 |
| wxl | then tried the lxde-desktop task | 23:11 |
| wxl | only to discover it erroneously pulled in gnome | 23:12 |
| dynafish | I did netinstall of debian and did lxde but I still needed so much stuff | 23:12 |
| wxl | so i started over and built up lxde basically piece by piece | 23:12 |
| wxl | i don't entirely mind that philosophy of keep it simple | 23:12 |
| dynafish | like synaptics so no trakpad which is a pia | 23:12 |
| wxl | i.e. building up what you want | 23:12 |
| wxl | that's what arch is all about | 23:12 |
| wxl | only problem is when you don't knwo what you're looking for :D | 23:12 |
| dynafish | have installed slackware in a vm but nver arch | 23:12 |
| wxl | i once had arch w/ xfce on a usb key i was running of my powerbook | 23:13 |
| dynafish | I really must try arch someday | 23:13 |
| wxl | it's purdy nice | 23:13 |
| dynafish | I un fedora on my desktop | 23:13 |
| dynafish | I ran ubuntu quite a bit though in he past | 23:14 |
| wxl | still my vote's with the buntus and debian because i (A) like the packaging system and (B) think they are #1 in support | 23:14 |
| wxl | fedora.. meh | 23:14 |
| wxl | i'm not into hats | 23:14 |
| dynafish | always easy to find answers on ubuntu forums and such | 23:14 |
| dynafish | plus ubuntu seems to get the new apps/toys first | 23:15 |
| wxl | i think debian represents real innovation and commitment to more than one platform | 23:15 |
| dynafish | debian is nice | 23:15 |
| wxl | the fact that they still support ppc for example | 23:15 |
| wxl | they're like the netbsd of linux | 23:15 |
| wxl | (plus it will kick ass if they ever get the hurd-equipped debian out) | 23:16 |
| dynafish | I gotta put freebsd in a vm sooon | 23:16 |
| wxl | my problem with debian is kind of the same problem i have with the bsds.. they're stable to a fault | 23:16 |
| wxl | i just tried to update my stable debian to testing (not experimental mind you) and it totally failed upon reboot | 23:16 |
| dynafish | ghostbsd looks cool but it never piks up on my wieless keyboard | 23:17 |
| wxl | oh i've had great luck with ghostbsd.. but only on wired up desktops | 23:17 |
| dynafish | of ourse my wieless keyboard is messed up now so maybe I will just hook up a wired one | 23:17 |
| wxl | heh | 23:17 |
| dynafish | I changed batteies but it is still omitting keystokes | 23:18 |
| dynafish | see aboove lol | 23:18 |
| wxl | heh | 23:19 |
| wxl | heh i'm gonna install hurd for fun | 23:19 |
| dynafish | I am addicted to the wireless though | 23:19 |
| dynafish | looking into what I need to do a lxde of debian squeeze for my eeepc 1005ha | 23:20 |
| wxl | it's the first time i've seen the page be greater than dismissive | 23:20 |
| dynafish | my first time here actually | 23:20 |
| wxl | welcome | 23:21 |
| wxl | feel free to idle and help with the rest of us | 23:21 |
| dynafish | ubuntu channel was confusing and teh only guy who replied to me logged out | 23:21 |
| wxl | traffic is fairly mellow | 23:21 |
| wxl | people are actually helpful | 23:21 |
| dynafish | sure I am bored anyway | 23:21 |
| wxl | heh | 23:21 |
| dynafish | I helped a winblows user yesterday in this other chat | 23:21 |
| dynafish | he couldn't find drivers for his printer even when I gave him the link | 23:22 |
| wxl | make sure you got all your proposed/testing updates and report bugs as needed | 23:22 |
| wxl | it happens :D | 23:22 |
| dynafish | so I downloaded the driver for him and put it in my dropbox public and gave him that link lol | 23:22 |
| wxl | omg | 23:22 |
| dynafish | yeah, if I didn't like the guy and talk to him al, the time it would be a different story ;-P | 23:23 |
| wxl | heheheh | 23:23 |
| dynafish | plus it was easier that way, he kept saying "it says no driver is available" when I was looking at the download link myself | 23:24 |
| dynafish | I figured hell I'll just download it and post it to dbox lol | 23:24 |
| dynafish | so how long have you been a linux user wxl? | 23:25 |
| wxl | too darn long | 23:25 |
| dynafish | :-) | 23:25 |
| wxl | especially if you count all the many years on freebsd | 23:26 |
| dynafish | I stated in like 05 with Mandake 10.1 | 23:26 |
| dynafish | I want to get my CompTIA and eventually Red Hat certs | 23:27 |
| wxl | damn hats | 23:27 |
| dynafish | I did a year in college after I got laid off from my factory job and studied web design / programming | 23:27 |
| dynafish | I used to write simple web pages as a hobby when I was a machinist | 23:28 |
| dynafish | but after 12 years of cnc machining time to find a new career path | 23:28 |
| wxl | my history is like cp/m -> freebsd -> dos -> windows -> red hat/slackware -> os x (freebsd) -> a whole bunch of linucies before finally landing on lubuntu at which i finally felt at home | 23:29 |
| wxl | as a web programmer, did you see google's latest css3 display? | 23:30 |
| dynafish | lubuntu is nice, glad it's an official branch finally | 23:30 |
| wxl | yep | 23:30 |
| dynafish | I use xfce on my desktop but lxde is so much lighter | 23:30 |
| wxl | i actually like lxde a lot | 23:30 |
| dynafish | me too | 23:30 |
| eztk | me too | 23:30 |
| wxl | wmii is a little too extreme for me | 23:30 |
| dynafish | editing the xml file for the menu is fun | 23:31 |
| wxl | xfce is nice.. but just a little more than i need | 23:31 |
| wxl | lxde is.. just right | 23:31 |
| eztk | works very well on pentium iii M, 1 ghz.. | 23:31 |
| dynafish | my only other machine at the moment is my netbook so lxde is a no brainer | 23:31 |
| wxl | i have a powerbook g4 1.5ghz running lubuntu | 23:31 |
| eztk | far less swapping since i added 512MB to the 256MB that was already installed. especially since I use multiple tabs on chromium | 23:31 |
| dynafish | but when I get my old pentium 4 going again lsde will be on it | 23:31 |
| wxl | still working on tweaking it to be jush right | 23:32 |
| wxl | (remember ppc is unofficial with canonical) | 23:32 |
| wxl | i have a thinkpad r60 i'm getting some new memory for and if that fixes its problem it's getting lubuntized | 23:32 |
| eztk | lubuntu has saved the laptop from further ruining the environment :-) | 23:32 |
| wxl | EXACTLY! | 23:32 |
| wxl | and that's why lubuntu is awesome | 23:32 |
| dynafish | I used to be a kde 3.5 guy and then came KDE 4 lol | 23:32 |
| wxl | oh gawd dynafish | 23:33 |
| eztk | wxl: whats the cpu? amazing how much extra memory makes | 23:33 |
| wxl | sorry, i just don't like kde | 23:33 |
| wxl | it's so.. windows. | 23:33 |
| dynafish | I ran sidux for about a year | 23:33 |
| wxl | eztk: not sure.. i got it free and because of the memory errors haven't been able to check it out | 23:33 |
| wxl | wow sidux that's obscure | 23:33 |
| dynafish | sidux (now aptosid) will not run on my hp pavillion not sure why | 23:34 |
| eztk | wxl: who cares when its free.. would be great to have lubuntu working on it of course :-) | 23:34 |
| wxl | eztk: naturally | 23:34 |
| eztk | ubuntu running very well on a much higher spec ubuntu box on my desk.. who needs windoze?? :-) | 23:34 |
| wxl | i ran.. oh gosh now i can't think of what it's called.. dreamlinux! for a bit | 23:34 |
| dynafish | sidux was great for awhile until the debian packages switched with the release of stable and then too much breakage | 23:35 |
| wxl | sad: puppy is ranked higher than lubuntu on distrowatch | 23:36 |
| dynafish | I downloaded dreamlinux not long ago but have not tried it out | 23:36 |
| wxl | lubuntu is #12 | 23:37 |
| wxl | xubuntu is #31 | 23:37 |
| dynafish | puppy I'm not big on, especially since it uns as root by default | 23:37 |
| wxl | daaaaang | 23:37 |
| wxl | kubuntu is #24 | 23:37 |
| dynafish | xubuntu is nice | 23:37 |
| wxl | now don't look | 23:37 |
| wxl | tell me the top 5 in order | 23:37 |
| dynafish | I ran kubuntu back in the kde 3 days | 23:37 |
| wxl | xubuntu is like ubuntu + xfce not ubuntu - gnome + kfce like it should be so i'm not too into that | 23:38 |
| dynafish | ubuntu, mint, fedora, opensuse, debian (i think) | 23:38 |
| wxl | you got the players right | 23:38 |
| wxl | mint is #1 | 23:38 |
| wxl | ubuntu #2 | 23:38 |
| wxl | fedora's #3 | 23:38 |
| wxl | debian #4 | 23:39 |
| wxl | opensuse #5 | 23:39 |
| dynafish | arch #6 | 23:39 |
| wxl | yepper | 23:39 |
| dynafish | wow I have not messed with plos in awhile I cut my teeth on linux using it | 23:39 |
| dynafish | *pclos | 23:39 |
| dynafish | it's at #7 | 23:40 |
| wxl | neverused | 23:40 |
| dynafish | it was a good sepping stone | 23:40 |
| wxl | personally i'm surprised people are still using opensuse | 23:40 |
| wxl | i'd much rather do arch | 23:40 |
| wxl | mint i don't totally understand | 23:41 |
| dynafish | I use openSuse on my windows partition in VBox it has guest additions by default which is nice | 23:41 |
| wxl | i haven't played with it too much but it seems like it's wanting to take over ubuntu's place | 23:41 |
| wxl | ..as "debian-easy" ;) | 23:41 |
| dynafish | mint is something I flirt with but never stick around | 23:42 |
| dynafish | I reccomend mint to newbies all the time though | 23:42 |
| wxl | i usually mention ubuntu | 23:42 |
| wxl | maybe i'll have to change my tune | 23:42 |
| wxl | the fact that they're jockeying for position is telling | 23:43 |
| dynafish | used to reccomend pclos to noobs but mint is way better imho | 23:43 |
| wxl | of course mint doesn't have the ultimate in linux-for-the-masses features: unity | 23:43 |
| dynafish | unity is ok but not for me | 23:43 |
| wxl | me either | 23:43 |
| wxl | i abhor it to be honest | 23:43 |
| wxl | but i see where they're going with it | 23:44 |
| dynafish | gnome 3 has got me questioning too | 23:44 |
| wxl | agreed | 23:44 |
| dynafish | I was happy with gnome but now I mainly use xfce | 23:44 |
| wxl | i ran xubuntu for a bit | 23:45 |
| dynafish | needing 3d out of the box seems anti-linux in a way | 23:45 |
| dynafish | maybe I am somewhat oldskool that way I guess | 23:45 |
| wxl | i know what you mean | 23:46 |
| wxl | heck, i love finnix | 23:46 |
| dynafish | fedora is supposedly working on a 2d gnome shell | 23:46 |
| dynafish | I may try gnome 3 again once it matures and I feel like a change | 23:46 |
| dynafish | I have been keeping an eye on elementary os, they are up o some neat stuff wih gnome 3 I heard | 23:48 |
| wxl | i'm so old school i add repos to my sources with echo | sudo tee :) | 23:49 |
| dynafish | lol | 23:50 |
| dynafish | fedora doesn't easily let you un thunar as root so I have to install my icon themes using the terminal now | 23:51 |
| dynafish | which is probably for teh best | 23:51 |
| dynafish | not sure if su - -c runs all gui apps in fedora or just unetbootin | 23:52 |
| dynafish | I did use beesu but I'd rather just go cli for root file access thes days | 23:53 |
| wxl | sorry disappeared | 23:55 |
| dynafish | np, I just grabbed last cup of coffee | 23:56 |
| dynafish | I will have to pop in here more often, I love chatting about linux | 23:57 |
| wxl | just idle here | 23:59 |
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