[01:13] <ptrkmj> Hi there. Is lubuntu provisoned with software to build kernel from it?
[01:38] <lubuntu214> wants to disable startup apps. I know that "Check for new hardware drivers" isn't necessary so I turned that off. what about "Disk NOtifications" and "Notification Daemon"?
[01:39] <lubuntu214> all the other apps I know are a total must
[11:40] <buzz_> running lubuntu oneiric. from the login screen "lubuntu netbook" session, returns right away back to the login. known issue, or ideas to debug ?
[11:41] <buzz_> lxdm.log shows "/usr/bin/startlubuntu-netbook lang" being run
[12:53] <l33> hi
[12:53] <l33> hi
[12:57] <faint545> how do i customize the notification popups? sometimes they go off the screen and get cut off.
[12:57] <faint545> im using lubuntu 11.10 btw
[13:01] <l33> i guess in the "start menu" under preferences desktop session settings you can switch this service on and off by disabling to load it on startup automagically ;)
[13:34] <jita> How do i decrease the brightness of my desktop ?
[13:35] <bioterror> laptop or desktop?
[13:35] <jita> bioterror: laptop
[13:35] <jita> bioterror: fn + f4 isnt working
[13:35] <bioterror> you usually have a key combo for that
[13:36] <jita> bioterror: got it, it was up down arrow keys thanks
[13:36] <jita> bioterror: would it remember when i reboot ?
[13:36] <bioterror> give a shot :)
[13:36] <jita> cool ty
[13:38] <jita> bioterror: nope it just sets back to maximum
[13:45] <Cheapshot> wonder why there isnt a gui for setting gamma
[13:45] <Cheapshot> atleast xgamma works perfectly
[13:46] <jita> How can i make lubuntu 11.10 remember the brightness of my laptop
[13:47] <jita> it seems to revert to max upon rebooting
[13:54] <Cheapshot> jita:  Have you checked your power manager? Check if you have something in the monitor section there.
[13:54] <Cheapshot> jita: There is a setting for automatically drop your brightness to a certain level when idle for a period of time etc..
[14:02] <croque> Is there any way to make a given application "live in the system tray"? Basically like Xchat or Pidgin does, but for another app (I'm thinking of Task Manager, Conky, things like that).
[14:41] <glauce> hi folks lxappearance (11.10) doesn't previewing openbox themes as it should be... any thoughts?
[16:13] <jita> whenever i open the run dialog using alt+F2, the run command opens in the background.
[16:13] <jita> Is there a way to launch it on the foreground
[16:15] <OneKorea> hi, im trying out lubuntu in vmware, just installed and booted up, and kinda suprised to see using 214mb of ram. Is that normal, as I was actually expected it to be lighter?
[17:58]  * wxl yawns
[18:23] <pmatulis> hi gang.  how do i create a key binding to maximize a window?
[18:25] <Unit193> Alt+space+x should do it by default
[18:26] <wxl> http://t.co/HslXxq4b
[18:26] <wxl> oops
[18:26] <wxl> nevermind that
[18:26] <wxl> <action name="ToggleMaximizeFull"/> in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[18:27] <wxl> assuming you know how to do hotkeys
[18:27] <Unit193> Note that this isn't the same, but may give you an idea https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F
[18:29] <pmatulis> Unit193, wxl: thanks, i'll go from there
[22:18] <gwish> hello good people :) is it possible to change LXDE theme to dark? I'm either searching by wrong keywords, or I'm missing the obvious, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to theme my lubuntu in a dark fashion...
[22:19] <gwish> all I've found is to change just the title-bar and bottom panel, but not about the color of overall windows and buttons and stuff
[22:20] <Unit193> lxappearance may be what you're looking for
[22:20] <wxl> preferences > customize look and feel
[22:21] <gwish> wxl: ah, thanks
[22:21] <wxl> use color tab
[22:21] <gwish> I've originally installed Ubuntu, then lubuntu over it and I have a mess of menu entries right now
[22:21] <Unit193> !purelxde | Give this a shot
[22:21] <wxl> ^^ what he said
[22:21] <gwish> wxl: thanks a lot, this helps :D
[22:22] <gwish> Unit193: thanks, I'll try that as well :)
[22:22] <Unit193> Right-o
[22:26] <gwish> well, you guys answered more than I had hoped, big thanks to all and have a nice day :)
[22:30] <eztk> thanks unit193, following that as well. lubuntu is working like a charm on my almost 10 year old laptop!
[22:30] <Unit193> Great! That's always a good one
[22:31] <eztk> unit193: its running even better than x pee! just trying to find intel optimised drivers for the on-board graphics... not very smooth when it comes to youtube and stuff like that
[22:33] <Unit193> I'd guess jockey wouldn't pull something in, but getting X to configure may help (Without X running, sudo x --configure)
[22:33] <eztk> thanks again :-)
[22:36] <wxl> that reminds me, i need to try nv over nouveau
[22:41] <dynafish> hi everybody
[22:41] <dynafish> have a swap question
[22:42] <dynafish> gparted shows my swap partition as unknown, I am using an encrypted home partition btw
[22:42] <dynafish> free -m shows swap but usage is 0
[22:43] <dynafish> and I get the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1/ not ready at boot
[22:43] <dynafish> does lubuntu mount swap after login due to encryption?
[22:44] <dynafish> or do I need to reformat the swap and add to fstab?
[22:45] <dynafish> the partition does show up in etc/cypttab
[22:45] <dynafish> hi M0hi
[22:46] <M0hi> o/
[22:46] <dynafish> I have a question if you an help
[22:47] <M0hi> o/)
[22:47] <M0hi> I ll try my best =)*
[22:47] <dynafish> I installed lubuntu 11.10 on my netbook and gparted shows my swap partition as unknown, I encrypted my home partiion btw
[22:48] <dynafish> swap shows up in /et/crypttab but not fstab
[22:48] <dynafish> and free -m shows swap avaiable with 0 usage
[22:49] <dynafish> wondering if lubuntu is able to use my swap or if I should eformat the swap and add to fstab
[22:51] <wxl> i have that same problem
[22:51] <eztk> dynafish: i get that same error on boot up about that thing not being ready... i just keep ignoring it for now. would be interesting to know how to fix that.
[22:52] <wxl> same problem meaning sharing swap
[22:52] <dynafish> I wonder if it mounts the partition at all
[22:52] <wxl> EVERYONE has that problem with crypttab
[22:52] <wxl> so i had a debian partition and an ubuntu partition
[22:52] <wxl> trying to share swap with them
[22:52] <wxl> ubuntu = lubuntu btwq
[22:53] <dynafish> pretty clever
[22:53] <wxl> so i set up one with the uuid of the other and it's like the uuid changed so then it didn't work with the first
[22:53] <wxl> so i'm still in process of figuring that out
[22:53] <dynafish> I could reformat and add to fstab with uuid
[22:53] <dynafish> but the swap would be unencrypted that way I am sure
[22:54] <wxl> yep
[22:54] <wxl> assumedly you want encrypted?
[22:54] <dynafish> not like I am storing cia docs but still lol
[22:54] <dynafish> encrypted would be nice
[22:55] <dynafish> I have seen this in the forums allot
[22:56] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome#Caveats
[22:56] <wxl> sounds like there's some bugaboos with it
[22:57] <dynafish> I used sresstestapp and put lubuntu under a 2000mb load on the ram and it froze up (have 2gig ram) so I assume lubuntu is not using the swap but I am not positie
[22:57] <dynafish> ty wxl
[22:58] <dynafish> keyboard batteries low :(
[22:58] <wxl> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/ecryptfs-setup-swap.1.html
[22:58] <wxl> apparently it's still a bug if the man page is to be believed
[22:59] <wxl> so as long as you don't give a crap about hibernate you could encrypt swap
[23:00] <dynafish> with 2gigs of ram I may not even need it but it would be nice
[23:00] <wxl> hm i guess i didn't encrypt swap on this vm
[23:01] <dynafish> so it is a bug and lubuntu isn't using  the swap though as is
[23:01] <wxl> i do have a swap tho
[23:02] <dynafish> I mainly encrypted it  in case my netbook is lost that someone wih a live cd couldn' access my data so maybe encrypted swap isn't neessary
[23:03] <dynafish> *necessary
[23:04] <dynafish> I did a net install of SUSE and encryped home and when I neglected to supply password it booted ino a minimal x wih root access lol
[23:04] <dynafish> that was the end of suse on my netbook :)
[23:05] <dynafish> well I wonder what I should do then maybe I will just put debian squeeze on it
[23:06] <wxl> i swear #ubuntu is so full of random chatter and crosstalk you can never get a word in edgewise
[23:07] <wxl> anyways check this out too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3
[23:08] <dynafish> ty
[23:09] <wxl> np
[23:09] <wxl> i'd suggest debian or arch if you're looking for something else to play with
[23:09] <wxl> if you want to get hardcore, there's only one: slackware :D
[23:10]  * nlsthzn_ has had more trouble with debian than slackware :)
[23:11] <wxl> hah now THAT'S funny
[23:11] <wxl> debian was a pita to install for me
[23:11] <wxl> part of that's because i have a ppc
[23:11] <wxl> i used the net install and set up the base system
[23:11] <wxl> then tried the lxde-desktop task
[23:12] <wxl> only to discover it erroneously pulled in gnome
[23:12] <dynafish> I did netinstall of debian and did lxde but I still needed so much stuff
[23:12] <wxl> so i started over and built up lxde basically piece by piece
[23:12] <wxl> i don't entirely mind that philosophy of keep it simple
[23:12] <dynafish> like synaptics so no trakpad which is a pia
[23:12] <wxl> i.e. building up what you want
[23:12] <wxl> that's what arch is all about
[23:12] <wxl> only problem is when you don't knwo what you're looking for :D
[23:12] <dynafish> have installed slackware in a vm but nver arch
[23:13] <wxl> i once had arch w/ xfce on a usb key i was running of my powerbook
[23:13] <dynafish> I really must try arch someday
[23:13] <wxl> it's purdy nice
[23:13] <dynafish> I un fedora on my desktop
[23:14] <dynafish> I ran ubuntu quite a bit though in he past
[23:14] <wxl> still my vote's with the buntus and debian because i (A) like the packaging system and (B) think they are #1 in support
[23:14] <wxl> fedora.. meh
[23:14] <wxl> i'm not into hats
[23:14] <dynafish> always easy to find answers on ubuntu forums and such
[23:15] <dynafish> plus ubuntu seems to get the new apps/toys first
[23:15] <wxl> i think debian represents real innovation and commitment to more than one platform
[23:15] <dynafish> debian is nice
[23:15] <wxl> the fact that they still support ppc for example
[23:15] <wxl> they're like the netbsd of linux
[23:16] <wxl> (plus it will kick ass if they ever get the hurd-equipped debian out)
[23:16] <dynafish> I gotta put freebsd in a vm sooon
[23:16] <wxl> my problem with debian is kind of the same problem i have with the bsds.. they're stable to a fault
[23:16] <wxl> i just tried to update my stable debian to testing (not experimental mind you) and it totally failed upon reboot
[23:17] <dynafish> ghostbsd looks cool but it never piks up on my wieless keyboard
[23:17] <wxl> oh i've had great luck with ghostbsd.. but only on wired up desktops
[23:17] <dynafish> of ourse my wieless keyboard is messed up now so maybe I will just hook up a wired one
[23:17] <wxl> heh
[23:18] <dynafish> I changed batteies but it is still omitting keystokes
[23:18] <dynafish> see aboove lol
[23:19] <wxl> heh
[23:19] <wxl> heh i'm gonna install hurd for fun
[23:19] <dynafish> I am addicted to the wireless though
[23:20] <dynafish> looking into what I need to do a lxde of debian squeeze for my eeepc 1005ha
[23:20] <wxl> it's the first time i've seen the page be greater than dismissive
[23:20] <dynafish> my first time here actually
[23:21] <wxl> welcome
[23:21] <wxl> feel free to idle and help with the rest of us
[23:21] <dynafish> ubuntu channel was confusing and teh only guy who replied to me logged out
[23:21] <wxl> traffic is fairly mellow
[23:21] <wxl> people are actually helpful
[23:21] <dynafish> sure I am bored anyway
[23:21] <wxl> heh
[23:21] <dynafish> I helped a winblows user yesterday in this other chat
[23:22] <dynafish> he couldn't find drivers for his printer even when I gave him the link
[23:22] <wxl> make sure you got all your proposed/testing updates and report bugs as needed
[23:22] <wxl> it happens :D
[23:22] <dynafish> so I downloaded the driver for him and put it in my dropbox public and gave him that link lol
[23:22] <wxl> omg
[23:23] <dynafish> yeah, if I didn't like the guy and talk to him al, the time it would be a different story ;-P
[23:23] <wxl> heheheh
[23:24] <dynafish> plus it was easier that way, he kept saying "it says no driver is available" when I was looking at the download link myself
[23:24] <dynafish> I figured hell I'll just download it and post it to dbox lol
[23:25] <dynafish> so how long have you been a linux user wxl?
[23:25] <wxl> too darn long
[23:25] <dynafish> :-)
[23:26] <wxl> especially if you count all the many years on freebsd
[23:26] <dynafish> I stated in like 05 with Mandake 10.1
[23:27] <dynafish> I want to get my CompTIA and eventually Red Hat certs
[23:27] <wxl> damn hats
[23:27] <dynafish> I did a year in college after I got laid off from my factory job and studied web design / programming
[23:28] <dynafish> I used to write simple web pages as a hobby when I was a machinist
[23:28] <dynafish> but after 12 years of cnc machining time to find a new career path
[23:29] <wxl> my history is like cp/m -> freebsd -> dos -> windows -> red hat/slackware -> os x (freebsd) -> a whole bunch of linucies before finally landing on lubuntu at which i finally felt at home
[23:30] <wxl> as a web programmer, did you see google's latest css3 display?
[23:30] <dynafish> lubuntu is nice, glad it's an official branch finally
[23:30] <wxl> yep
[23:30] <dynafish> I use xfce on my desktop but lxde is so much lighter
[23:30] <wxl> i actually like lxde a lot
[23:30] <dynafish> me too
[23:30] <eztk> me too
[23:30] <wxl> wmii is a little too extreme for me
[23:31] <dynafish> editing the xml file for the menu is fun
[23:31] <wxl> xfce is nice.. but just a little more than i need
[23:31] <wxl> lxde is.. just right
[23:31] <eztk> works very well on pentium iii M, 1 ghz..
[23:31] <dynafish> my only other machine at the moment is my netbook so lxde is a no brainer
[23:31] <wxl> i have a powerbook g4 1.5ghz running lubuntu
[23:31] <eztk> far less swapping since i added 512MB to the 256MB that was already installed. especially since I use multiple tabs on chromium
[23:31] <dynafish> but when I get my old pentium 4 going again lsde will be on it
[23:32] <wxl> still working on tweaking it to be jush right
[23:32] <wxl> (remember ppc is unofficial with canonical)
[23:32] <wxl> i have a thinkpad r60 i'm getting some new memory for and if that fixes its problem it's getting lubuntized
[23:32] <eztk> lubuntu has saved the laptop from further ruining the environment :-)
[23:32] <wxl> EXACTLY!
[23:32] <wxl> and that's why lubuntu is awesome
[23:32] <dynafish> I used to be a kde 3.5 guy and then came KDE 4 lol
[23:33] <wxl> oh gawd dynafish
[23:33] <eztk> wxl: whats the cpu? amazing how much extra memory makes
[23:33] <wxl> sorry, i just don't like kde
[23:33] <wxl> it's so.. windows.
[23:33] <dynafish> I ran sidux for about a year
[23:33] <wxl> eztk: not sure.. i got it free and because of the memory errors haven't been able to check it out
[23:33] <wxl> wow sidux that's obscure
[23:34] <dynafish> sidux (now aptosid) will not run on my hp pavillion not sure why
[23:34] <eztk> wxl: who cares when its free.. would be great to have lubuntu working on it of course :-)
[23:34] <wxl> eztk: naturally
[23:34] <eztk> ubuntu running very well on a much higher spec ubuntu box on my desk.. who needs windoze?? :-)
[23:34] <wxl> i ran.. oh gosh now i can't think of what it's called.. dreamlinux! for a bit
[23:35] <dynafish> sidux was great for awhile until the debian packages switched with the release of stable and then too much breakage
[23:36] <wxl> sad: puppy is ranked higher than lubuntu on distrowatch
[23:36] <dynafish> I downloaded dreamlinux not long ago but have not tried it out
[23:37] <wxl> lubuntu is #12
[23:37] <wxl> xubuntu is #31
[23:37] <dynafish> puppy I'm not big on, especially since it uns as root by default
[23:37] <wxl> daaaaang
[23:37] <wxl> kubuntu is #24
[23:37] <dynafish> xubuntu is nice
[23:37] <wxl> now don't look
[23:37] <wxl> tell me the top 5 in order
[23:37] <dynafish> I ran kubuntu back in the kde 3 days
[23:38] <wxl> xubuntu is like ubuntu + xfce not ubuntu - gnome + kfce like it should be so i'm not too into that
[23:38] <dynafish> ubuntu, mint, fedora, opensuse, debian (i think)
[23:38] <wxl> you got the players right
[23:38] <wxl> mint is #1
[23:38] <wxl> ubuntu #2
[23:38] <wxl> fedora's #3
[23:39] <wxl> debian #4
[23:39] <wxl> opensuse #5
[23:39] <dynafish> arch #6
[23:39] <wxl> yepper
[23:39] <dynafish> wow I have not messed with plos in awhile I cut my teeth on linux using it
[23:39] <dynafish> *pclos
[23:40] <dynafish> it's at #7
[23:40] <wxl> neverused
[23:40] <dynafish> it was a good sepping stone
[23:40] <wxl> personally i'm surprised people are still using opensuse
[23:40] <wxl> i'd much rather do arch
[23:41] <wxl> mint i don't totally understand
[23:41] <dynafish> I use openSuse on my windows partition in VBox it has guest additions by default which is nice
[23:41] <wxl> i haven't played with it too much but it seems like it's wanting to take over ubuntu's place
[23:41] <wxl> ..as "debian-easy" ;)
[23:42] <dynafish> mint is something I flirt with but never stick around
[23:42] <dynafish> I reccomend mint to newbies all the time though
[23:42] <wxl> i usually mention ubuntu
[23:42] <wxl> maybe i'll have to change my tune
[23:43] <wxl> the fact that they're jockeying for position is telling
[23:43] <dynafish> used to reccomend pclos to noobs but mint is way better imho
[23:43] <wxl> of course mint doesn't have the ultimate in linux-for-the-masses features: unity
[23:43] <dynafish> unity is ok but not for me
[23:43] <wxl> me either
[23:43] <wxl> i abhor it to be honest
[23:44] <wxl> but i see where they're going with it
[23:44] <dynafish> gnome 3 has got me questioning too
[23:44] <wxl> agreed
[23:44] <dynafish> I was happy with gnome but now I mainly use xfce
[23:45] <wxl> i ran xubuntu for a bit
[23:45] <dynafish> needing 3d out of the box seems anti-linux in a way
[23:45] <dynafish> maybe I am somewhat oldskool that way I guess
[23:46] <wxl> i know what you mean
[23:46] <wxl> heck, i love finnix
[23:46] <dynafish> fedora is supposedly working on a 2d gnome shell
[23:46] <dynafish> I may try gnome 3 again once it matures and I feel like a change
[23:48] <dynafish> I have been keeping an eye on elementary os, they are up o some neat stuff wih gnome 3 I heard
[23:49] <wxl> i'm so old school i add repos to my sources with echo | sudo tee :)
[23:50] <dynafish> lol
[23:51] <dynafish> fedora doesn't easily let you un thunar as root so I have to install my icon themes using the terminal now
[23:51] <dynafish> which is probably for teh best
[23:52] <dynafish> not sure if su - -c runs all gui apps in fedora or just unetbootin
[23:53] <dynafish> I did use beesu but I'd rather just go cli for root file access thes days
[23:55] <wxl> sorry disappeared
[23:56] <dynafish> np, I just grabbed last cup of coffee
[23:57] <dynafish> I will have to pop in here more often, I love chatting about linux
[23:59] <wxl> just idle here