=== aw is now known as Guest84030 [01:13] Hi there. Is lubuntu provisoned with software to build kernel from it? [01:38] wants to disable startup apps. I know that "Check for new hardware drivers" isn't necessary so I turned that off. what about "Disk NOtifications" and "Notification Daemon"? [01:39] all the other apps I know are a total must === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [11:40] running lubuntu oneiric. from the login screen "lubuntu netbook" session, returns right away back to the login. known issue, or ideas to debug ? [11:41] lxdm.log shows "/usr/bin/startlubuntu-netbook lang" being run [12:53] hi [12:53] hi [12:57] how do i customize the notification popups? sometimes they go off the screen and get cut off. [12:57] im using lubuntu 11.10 btw [13:01] i guess in the "start menu" under preferences desktop session settings you can switch this service on and off by disabling to load it on startup automagically ;) [13:34] How do i decrease the brightness of my desktop ? [13:35] laptop or desktop? [13:35] bioterror: laptop [13:35] bioterror: fn + f4 isnt working [13:35] you usually have a key combo for that [13:36] bioterror: got it, it was up down arrow keys thanks [13:36] bioterror: would it remember when i reboot ? [13:36] give a shot :) [13:36] cool ty [13:38] bioterror: nope it just sets back to maximum [13:45] wonder why there isnt a gui for setting gamma [13:45] atleast xgamma works perfectly [13:46] How can i make lubuntu 11.10 remember the brightness of my laptop [13:47] it seems to revert to max upon rebooting [13:54] jita: Have you checked your power manager? Check if you have something in the monitor section there. [13:54] jita: There is a setting for automatically drop your brightness to a certain level when idle for a period of time etc.. === c933103 is now known as orzxx [14:02] Is there any way to make a given application "live in the system tray"? Basically like Xchat or Pidgin does, but for another app (I'm thinking of Task Manager, Conky, things like that). [14:41] hi folks lxappearance (11.10) doesn't previewing openbox themes as it should be... any thoughts? [16:13] whenever i open the run dialog using alt+F2, the run command opens in the background. [16:13] Is there a way to launch it on the foreground [16:15] hi, im trying out lubuntu in vmware, just installed and booted up, and kinda suprised to see using 214mb of ram. Is that normal, as I was actually expected it to be lighter? [17:58] * wxl yawns === AmberJ is now known as JainAmber === AmberJ is now known as JainAmber [18:23] hi gang. how do i create a key binding to maximize a window? [18:25] Alt+space+x should do it by default [18:26] http://t.co/HslXxq4b [18:26] oops [18:26] nevermind that [18:26] in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml [18:27] assuming you know how to do hotkeys [18:27] Note that this isn't the same, but may give you an idea https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F [18:29] Unit193, wxl: thanks, i'll go from there === JainAmber is now known as AmberJain [22:18] hello good people :) is it possible to change LXDE theme to dark? I'm either searching by wrong keywords, or I'm missing the obvious, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to theme my lubuntu in a dark fashion... [22:19] all I've found is to change just the title-bar and bottom panel, but not about the color of overall windows and buttons and stuff [22:20] lxappearance may be what you're looking for [22:20] preferences > customize look and feel [22:21] wxl: ah, thanks [22:21] use color tab [22:21] I've originally installed Ubuntu, then lubuntu over it and I have a mess of menu entries right now [22:21] !purelxde | Give this a shot [22:21] Give this a shot: If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » [22:21] ^^ what he said [22:21] wxl: thanks a lot, this helps :D [22:22] Unit193: thanks, I'll try that as well :) [22:22] Right-o [22:26] well, you guys answered more than I had hoped, big thanks to all and have a nice day :) [22:30] thanks unit193, following that as well. lubuntu is working like a charm on my almost 10 year old laptop! [22:30] Great! That's always a good one [22:31] unit193: its running even better than x pee! just trying to find intel optimised drivers for the on-board graphics... not very smooth when it comes to youtube and stuff like that [22:33] I'd guess jockey wouldn't pull something in, but getting X to configure may help (Without X running, sudo x --configure) [22:33] thanks again :-) [22:36] that reminds me, i need to try nv over nouveau [22:41] hi everybody [22:41] have a swap question [22:42] gparted shows my swap partition as unknown, I am using an encrypted home partition btw [22:42] free -m shows swap but usage is 0 [22:43] and I get the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1/ not ready at boot [22:43] does lubuntu mount swap after login due to encryption? [22:44] or do I need to reformat the swap and add to fstab? [22:45] the partition does show up in etc/cypttab [22:45] hi M0hi [22:46] o/ [22:46] I have a question if you an help [22:47] o/) [22:47] I ll try my best =)* [22:47] I installed lubuntu 11.10 on my netbook and gparted shows my swap partition as unknown, I encrypted my home partiion btw [22:48] swap shows up in /et/crypttab but not fstab [22:48] and free -m shows swap avaiable with 0 usage [22:49] wondering if lubuntu is able to use my swap or if I should eformat the swap and add to fstab [22:51] i have that same problem [22:51] dynafish: i get that same error on boot up about that thing not being ready... i just keep ignoring it for now. would be interesting to know how to fix that. [22:52] same problem meaning sharing swap [22:52] I wonder if it mounts the partition at all [22:52] EVERYONE has that problem with crypttab [22:52] so i had a debian partition and an ubuntu partition [22:52] trying to share swap with them [22:52] ubuntu = lubuntu btwq [22:53] pretty clever [22:53] so i set up one with the uuid of the other and it's like the uuid changed so then it didn't work with the first [22:53] so i'm still in process of figuring that out [22:53] I could reformat and add to fstab with uuid [22:53] but the swap would be unencrypted that way I am sure [22:54] yep [22:54] assumedly you want encrypted? [22:54] not like I am storing cia docs but still lol [22:54] encrypted would be nice [22:55] I have seen this in the forums allot [22:56] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome#Caveats [22:56] sounds like there's some bugaboos with it [22:57] I used sresstestapp and put lubuntu under a 2000mb load on the ram and it froze up (have 2gig ram) so I assume lubuntu is not using the swap but I am not positie [22:57] ty wxl [22:58] keyboard batteries low :( [22:58] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/ecryptfs-setup-swap.1.html [22:58] apparently it's still a bug if the man page is to be believed [22:59] so as long as you don't give a crap about hibernate you could encrypt swap [23:00] with 2gigs of ram I may not even need it but it would be nice [23:00] hm i guess i didn't encrypt swap on this vm [23:01] so it is a bug and lubuntu isn't using the swap though as is [23:01] i do have a swap tho [23:02] I mainly encrypted it in case my netbook is lost that someone wih a live cd couldn' access my data so maybe encrypted swap isn't neessary [23:03] *necessary [23:04] I did a net install of SUSE and encryped home and when I neglected to supply password it booted ino a minimal x wih root access lol [23:04] that was the end of suse on my netbook :) [23:05] well I wonder what I should do then maybe I will just put debian squeeze on it [23:06] i swear #ubuntu is so full of random chatter and crosstalk you can never get a word in edgewise [23:07] anyways check this out too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3 [23:08] ty [23:09] np [23:09] i'd suggest debian or arch if you're looking for something else to play with [23:09] if you want to get hardcore, there's only one: slackware :D [23:10] * nlsthzn_ has had more trouble with debian than slackware :) [23:11] hah now THAT'S funny [23:11] debian was a pita to install for me [23:11] part of that's because i have a ppc [23:11] i used the net install and set up the base system [23:11] then tried the lxde-desktop task [23:12] only to discover it erroneously pulled in gnome [23:12] I did netinstall of debian and did lxde but I still needed so much stuff [23:12] so i started over and built up lxde basically piece by piece [23:12] i don't entirely mind that philosophy of keep it simple [23:12] like synaptics so no trakpad which is a pia [23:12] i.e. building up what you want [23:12] that's what arch is all about [23:12] only problem is when you don't knwo what you're looking for :D [23:12] have installed slackware in a vm but nver arch [23:13] i once had arch w/ xfce on a usb key i was running of my powerbook [23:13] I really must try arch someday [23:13] it's purdy nice [23:13] I un fedora on my desktop [23:14] I ran ubuntu quite a bit though in he past [23:14] still my vote's with the buntus and debian because i (A) like the packaging system and (B) think they are #1 in support [23:14] fedora.. meh [23:14] i'm not into hats [23:14] always easy to find answers on ubuntu forums and such [23:15] plus ubuntu seems to get the new apps/toys first [23:15] i think debian represents real innovation and commitment to more than one platform [23:15] debian is nice [23:15] the fact that they still support ppc for example [23:15] they're like the netbsd of linux [23:16] (plus it will kick ass if they ever get the hurd-equipped debian out) [23:16] I gotta put freebsd in a vm sooon [23:16] my problem with debian is kind of the same problem i have with the bsds.. they're stable to a fault [23:16] i just tried to update my stable debian to testing (not experimental mind you) and it totally failed upon reboot [23:17] ghostbsd looks cool but it never piks up on my wieless keyboard [23:17] oh i've had great luck with ghostbsd.. but only on wired up desktops [23:17] of ourse my wieless keyboard is messed up now so maybe I will just hook up a wired one [23:17] heh [23:18] I changed batteies but it is still omitting keystokes [23:18] see aboove lol [23:19] heh [23:19] heh i'm gonna install hurd for fun [23:19] I am addicted to the wireless though [23:20] looking into what I need to do a lxde of debian squeeze for my eeepc 1005ha [23:20] it's the first time i've seen the page be greater than dismissive [23:20] my first time here actually [23:21] welcome [23:21] feel free to idle and help with the rest of us [23:21] ubuntu channel was confusing and teh only guy who replied to me logged out [23:21] traffic is fairly mellow [23:21] people are actually helpful [23:21] sure I am bored anyway [23:21] heh [23:21] I helped a winblows user yesterday in this other chat [23:22] he couldn't find drivers for his printer even when I gave him the link [23:22] make sure you got all your proposed/testing updates and report bugs as needed [23:22] it happens :D [23:22] so I downloaded the driver for him and put it in my dropbox public and gave him that link lol [23:22] omg [23:23] yeah, if I didn't like the guy and talk to him al, the time it would be a different story ;-P [23:23] heheheh [23:24] plus it was easier that way, he kept saying "it says no driver is available" when I was looking at the download link myself [23:24] I figured hell I'll just download it and post it to dbox lol [23:25] so how long have you been a linux user wxl? [23:25] too darn long [23:25] :-) [23:26] especially if you count all the many years on freebsd [23:26] I stated in like 05 with Mandake 10.1 [23:27] I want to get my CompTIA and eventually Red Hat certs [23:27] damn hats [23:27] I did a year in college after I got laid off from my factory job and studied web design / programming [23:28] I used to write simple web pages as a hobby when I was a machinist [23:28] but after 12 years of cnc machining time to find a new career path [23:29] my history is like cp/m -> freebsd -> dos -> windows -> red hat/slackware -> os x (freebsd) -> a whole bunch of linucies before finally landing on lubuntu at which i finally felt at home [23:30] as a web programmer, did you see google's latest css3 display? [23:30] lubuntu is nice, glad it's an official branch finally [23:30] yep [23:30] I use xfce on my desktop but lxde is so much lighter [23:30] i actually like lxde a lot [23:30] me too [23:30] me too [23:30] wmii is a little too extreme for me [23:31] editing the xml file for the menu is fun [23:31] xfce is nice.. but just a little more than i need [23:31] lxde is.. just right [23:31] works very well on pentium iii M, 1 ghz.. [23:31] my only other machine at the moment is my netbook so lxde is a no brainer [23:31] i have a powerbook g4 1.5ghz running lubuntu [23:31] far less swapping since i added 512MB to the 256MB that was already installed. especially since I use multiple tabs on chromium [23:31] but when I get my old pentium 4 going again lsde will be on it [23:32] still working on tweaking it to be jush right [23:32] (remember ppc is unofficial with canonical) [23:32] i have a thinkpad r60 i'm getting some new memory for and if that fixes its problem it's getting lubuntized [23:32] lubuntu has saved the laptop from further ruining the environment :-) [23:32] EXACTLY! [23:32] and that's why lubuntu is awesome [23:32] I used to be a kde 3.5 guy and then came KDE 4 lol [23:33] oh gawd dynafish [23:33] wxl: whats the cpu? amazing how much extra memory makes [23:33] sorry, i just don't like kde [23:33] it's so.. windows. [23:33] I ran sidux for about a year [23:33] eztk: not sure.. i got it free and because of the memory errors haven't been able to check it out [23:33] wow sidux that's obscure [23:34] sidux (now aptosid) will not run on my hp pavillion not sure why [23:34] wxl: who cares when its free.. would be great to have lubuntu working on it of course :-) [23:34] eztk: naturally [23:34] ubuntu running very well on a much higher spec ubuntu box on my desk.. who needs windoze?? :-) [23:34] i ran.. oh gosh now i can't think of what it's called.. dreamlinux! for a bit [23:35] sidux was great for awhile until the debian packages switched with the release of stable and then too much breakage [23:36] sad: puppy is ranked higher than lubuntu on distrowatch [23:36] I downloaded dreamlinux not long ago but have not tried it out [23:37] lubuntu is #12 [23:37] xubuntu is #31 [23:37] puppy I'm not big on, especially since it uns as root by default [23:37] daaaaang [23:37] kubuntu is #24 [23:37] xubuntu is nice [23:37] now don't look [23:37] tell me the top 5 in order [23:37] I ran kubuntu back in the kde 3 days [23:38] xubuntu is like ubuntu + xfce not ubuntu - gnome + kfce like it should be so i'm not too into that [23:38] ubuntu, mint, fedora, opensuse, debian (i think) [23:38] you got the players right [23:38] mint is #1 [23:38] ubuntu #2 [23:38] fedora's #3 [23:39] debian #4 [23:39] opensuse #5 [23:39] arch #6 [23:39] yepper [23:39] wow I have not messed with plos in awhile I cut my teeth on linux using it [23:39] *pclos [23:40] it's at #7 [23:40] neverused [23:40] it was a good sepping stone [23:40] personally i'm surprised people are still using opensuse [23:40] i'd much rather do arch [23:41] mint i don't totally understand [23:41] I use openSuse on my windows partition in VBox it has guest additions by default which is nice [23:41] i haven't played with it too much but it seems like it's wanting to take over ubuntu's place [23:41] ..as "debian-easy" ;) [23:42] mint is something I flirt with but never stick around [23:42] I reccomend mint to newbies all the time though [23:42] i usually mention ubuntu [23:42] maybe i'll have to change my tune [23:43] the fact that they're jockeying for position is telling [23:43] used to reccomend pclos to noobs but mint is way better imho [23:43] of course mint doesn't have the ultimate in linux-for-the-masses features: unity [23:43] unity is ok but not for me [23:43] me either [23:43] i abhor it to be honest [23:44] but i see where they're going with it [23:44] gnome 3 has got me questioning too [23:44] agreed [23:44] I was happy with gnome but now I mainly use xfce [23:45] i ran xubuntu for a bit [23:45] needing 3d out of the box seems anti-linux in a way [23:45] maybe I am somewhat oldskool that way I guess [23:46] i know what you mean [23:46] heck, i love finnix [23:46] fedora is supposedly working on a 2d gnome shell [23:46] I may try gnome 3 again once it matures and I feel like a change [23:48] I have been keeping an eye on elementary os, they are up o some neat stuff wih gnome 3 I heard [23:49] i'm so old school i add repos to my sources with echo | sudo tee :) [23:50] lol [23:51] fedora doesn't easily let you un thunar as root so I have to install my icon themes using the terminal now [23:51] which is probably for teh best [23:52] not sure if su - -c runs all gui apps in fedora or just unetbootin [23:53] I did use beesu but I'd rather just go cli for root file access thes days [23:55] sorry disappeared [23:56] np, I just grabbed last cup of coffee [23:57] I will have to pop in here more often, I love chatting about linux [23:59] just idle here