[03:35] <ghuru> hey all
[03:35] <ghuru> any zimbra admins?
[13:26] <Charlie> So...What's up?
[13:27] <Charlie> Anyone home?
[13:28] <mhall119> yes
[14:31] <cjohnston> mhall119: your not home
[14:31] <mhall119> home away from home
[14:31] <mhall119> also, I didn't say *I* was home
[14:31] <mhall119> just that somebody, somwhere, was home
[14:32] <itnet7> lol
[14:32] <itnet7> sure
[14:32] <itnet7> wrong windoe
[14:32] <itnet7> s/windoe/window/
[14:33] <roaksoax> lol
[14:33] <DammitJim> it's 5 o'clock somewhere?
[14:34] <govatent> cookie?
[14:38] <cjohnston> lol
[14:39] <DammitJim> are they having cookies at the conference?
[15:28] <mhall119> DammitJim: they did a couple days ago
[15:29] <mhall119> it's muffins and danishes today
[15:32] <raubvogel> We need a cookie gun: shoots cookies at the crowd
[15:35] <MichelleQ> omnomnom
[16:39] <ImitatingReality> Hello...
[16:39] <govatent> hello
[16:39] <govatent> thats the echo going back :) how are you? 
[16:40] <ImitatingReality> Sleepy, been a long time since I was here. :)
[16:40] <govatent> yea
[16:40] <govatent> i think i remember you 
[16:40] <ImitatingReality> I remember you. ^_^
[16:40] <govatent> i had gone rouge for a while myself
[16:41] <govatent> had been busy with school and stuff
[16:41] <ImitatingReality> I've been busy working myself.
[16:41] <govatent> how's your ubuntu life coming along? 
[16:41] <ImitatingReality> Ha! My computer went kaput.
[16:41] <ImitatingReality> V_V
[16:42] <govatent> :(
[16:42] <govatent> what happened? 
[16:42] <ImitatingReality> It had some kind of error, kept saying the hard drive had a fatal error or something.
[16:42] <ImitatingReality> I think I just need a new version of ubuntu.
[16:42] <govatent> i assume you already found a solution cause your online right now right? 
[16:43] <ImitatingReality> I'm at work actually. ^_^;
[16:43] <govatent> lulz
[16:43] <govatent> i am at uds with the some of the other fl folks 
[16:43] <ImitatingReality> I think i'm going to download it onto a thumb drive when I get home.
[16:44] <ImitatingReality> Uds?
[16:44] <govatent> Ubuntu Developer Summit in orlando 
[16:44] <ImitatingReality> Cool.
[16:44] <govatent> today is the last day
[16:47] <govatent> ok LUNCH TIME! Ill see you guys in the lunch room 
[16:47] <ImitatingReality> bye then?
[17:10] <DammitJim> I have a computer running linux hooked up to my tv
[17:10] <DammitJim> is there a way I can stream content to it from my laptop?
[17:11] <DammitJim> basically just use the TV as a big monitor from my laptop, but not connected to it via wires, but rather wifi
[17:30] <raubvogel> DammitJim: it depends on what you are confortable with
[17:30] <raubvogel> non-media specific solutions: X11 forwarding, vnc, etc
[17:32] <raubvogel> media-specific: set your laptop as media source and then have desktop with tv find and use it?
[17:32] <raubvogel> Access laptop drive and go from there?
[17:32] <DammitJim> raubvogel, X11 forwarding sounds like an option, but I don't know if it's the reverse of what I want?
[17:33] <DammitJim> Right now I can do movies and stuff from my HTPC server
[17:33] <DammitJim> but I want to pop up spreadsheets or just browse the web
[17:33] <raubvogel> Can't your htpc server see the laptop on network?
[17:33] <DammitJim> yeah
[17:34] <DammitJim> but I hate the wireless keyboard and mouse I have for my htpc
[17:34] <raubvogel> you can specify the port forwarding source no matter where you start ssh from
[17:34] <raubvogel> (-R vs -L)
[17:34] <raubvogel> I think
[17:34] <DammitJim> man, I'm being lazy
[17:34] <DammitJim> do you have some examples of how this would work?
[17:34] <DammitJim> I have 2 machines here right now that I could test it with
[17:37] <raubvogel> I can't help that much since I am rather swamped here, but something on the lines of "ssh -C -c blowfish -R 13003:localhost:13003 user@htpc"  is what I was thinking
[17:38] <DammitJim> how do I tell my laptop to display a program on the server, though?
[17:38] <raubvogel> depends on program
[17:38] <DammitJim> man, I've done this before
[17:38] <DammitJim> I don't know why I don't remember it
[17:38] <raubvogel> ssh -X or ssh -Y might be what you had in mind
[17:52] <DammitJim> raubvogel, but I can't control it once it launches the application
[17:53] <raubvogel> Then how about something like vnc? You can have a viewer only seeing but not editing
[17:54] <DammitJim> yeah, I thought of that
[17:54] <DammitJim> but didn't know if there was another option like with X11 forwarding
[17:58] <raubvogel> There is a kinda of x11 meets vnc on planet Mongo
[17:58] <raubvogel> where it behaves like a Mac: 
[17:58] <raubvogel> forward your main screen
[17:58] <DammitJim> if I forward my main screen, can I still navigate it with my mouse?
[17:58] <DammitJim> that's my thing
[17:58] <raubvogel> Well, your mouse is *on* the screen
[17:59] <raubvogel> no matter if it is only being shown on TV or laptop+tv
[17:59] <DammitJim> I want to use the mouse on my laptop, though
[17:59] <raubvogel> where is the mouse?
[17:59] <DammitJim> so, you are saying I can use the mouse on the laptop to navigate what is being shown on my HTPC that is connected to the TV?
[17:59] <DammitJim> that's all I'm looking for
[17:59] <raubvogel> Yep
[18:00] <DammitJim> like I said... I just hate the mouse/keyboard I have for my htpc
[18:00] <DammitJim> I just tried ssh -X dammitjim@htpc-server google-chrome
[18:00] <raubvogel> www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ perhaps?
[18:00] <DammitJim> it launched google-chrome on the server, but I can't control it
[21:26] <zus> hello
[21:31] <zus> im reading this article on ssh and secure servers. my question is can i set up ssh or open ssh on my laptop  and not need a server or a home server? and how can i keep safe when on other networks (coffee shops)  or when sites arent  https? this particular article is  for a windows machine.  can i have a link to a good (X)ubuntu  how to please?
[21:56] <raubvogel> zus: I do not understand the question. ssh is just a means to connect to another machine
[21:59] <zus> raubvogel,   im looking on google for  tutorials and stuff to learn it.
[22:00] <raubvogel> zus: start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSSH
[22:01] <zus> i dont know  why i almost never begin with this site...thanks
[22:03] <raubvogel> No worries