[03:55] <PURpleLIps> hi 
[05:34] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[05:35] <Guest8307> morning
[06:33] <Kilos> morning all
[06:33] <Kilos> hi daywalker-2018|3 
[06:34] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn inetpro 
[06:34] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:34]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:38] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[06:38] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[07:05] <Kilos> lo sdehaan 
[07:05] <Kilos> bye
[07:05] <Kilos> nice seeing you
[07:12] <nuvolari> mornings oom Kilos 
[07:12] <Kilos> inetpro, morning what do you call the test to see losses in data movement. I am mailing pieter and dont wanna seem too stupid
[07:12] <Kilos> lo nuvolari are you well
[07:12] <nuvolari> I'm good and you?
[07:13] <Kilos> ek baie kwaad met vodacom
[07:13] <inetpro> Kilos: man mtr
[07:13] <Kilos> will he understand what that means inetpro 
[07:14] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[07:14] <Kilos> what kinda test is it called
[07:14] <inetpro> Kilos: man mtr
[07:14] <Kilos> oh ok ty
[07:14] <Squirm2> morning
[07:14] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:14] <Kilos> hiya Squirm 
[07:16] <Kilos> ah network diagnostic tool
[07:16]  * Kilos forgets man when head thumping
[07:16] <Kilos> sorry
[07:17] <inetpro> Kilos: it's only through reading that you can get empowered
[07:17] <nuvolari> :> that's an awesome tool!
[07:17]  * nuvolari tried it just now for the first time
[07:17] <Kilos> thanks inetpro 
[07:17] <inetpro> I'm actually looking for another tool altogether on top of that one
[07:17] <Kilos> we will hear what he has to say
[07:18] <Kilos> if data wasnt a prob i would be tweeting him
[07:18] <inetpro> on wndows there used to be a nice pingplotter tool
[07:18] <inetpro> what it had on top of mtr is a little graph at the bottom which can show you the timeline of trouble
[07:19] <Kilos> but inetpro what do these tools help us if vodacom is the problem
[07:20] <inetpro> Kilos: vodacom network specialists will (should) know these tools
[07:20] <Kilos> i tried my nokia as a modem again and the connection is shocking. much worse than when i used the fone before
[07:20] <Kilos> do they understand linux/ubuntu?
[07:20] <inetpro> Kilos: probably not
[07:21] <Kilos> eish
[07:21] <inetpro> Kilos: in fact very unlikely
[07:21] <inetpro> Kilos: don't focus on the tool as much as on the problem
[07:22] <Kilos> yeah the problem is either the tower or vodacom choking it
[07:22] <inetpro> there's a clear problem and they need to sort it out
[07:23] <Kilos> what do i say choking or what
[07:24] <inetpro> Kilos: if they're on windows you can tell them to try pingplotter
[07:24] <Kilos> choking/shaping/limitting?
[07:24] <inetpro> or any of the other magic tools that they have
[07:24] <Kilos> yuck wouldnt waste data usin windows again
[07:25] <Kilos> antivirus and firewall to down load
[07:25] <Kilos> cant they pingplot to an ubuntu machine
[07:26] <Kilos> will i need to give them my IP address
[07:26] <Kilos> and where do i find that if yes
[07:27] <Kilos> i did man IP but dont understand anything there
[07:29] <Kilos> what do I ask him inetpro . is it being choked/throttled or what
[07:30] <Kilos> i dont have 2 voda sims so cant fone and be online same time
[07:32] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry, am quite busy on this side
[07:33] <Kilos> np
[07:33] <inetpro> Kilos: you tell him that you have tested with a network diagnostic tool and have found a significant number of packet losses
[07:34] <Kilos> ty sir
[07:40] <inetpro> Kilos: some more reading, man traceroute
[07:40] <inetpro> and man ping
[07:41] <Kilos> ok ty inetpro 
[07:42] <inetpro> you should have a 0% packet loss most of the time
[07:42] <Kilos> hope i have worded the mail sensibly
[08:38] <Kilos> bbl
[11:29] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you very busy?
[11:30] <Kilos> i need someone to go googlemaps and find me and the voda tower so i can tell the voda CEO's liasion peeps where I am
[11:30] <Kilos> even though i gave them the tower number they wanna know where i am
[11:38] <Kilos> dont worry i gave them my address so we see if they can find it themselves
[11:44] <Kilos> bbl
[13:05] <Guest63551> hello!
[13:29] <kodez> i'm in g|southafrica, who is here too?
[13:32] <Vince-0> nice ! envyyy
[13:46] <nuvolari> :'(
[13:46] <nuvolari> kodez: does it make a difference if I want to be there?
[13:47] <kodez> nuvolari: it depends on your interest and level of skills in programming
[13:56] <Kilos> gooosie
[13:56] <Kilos> inetpro, here is the mail addy for the CEO's liasion team
[13:57] <Kilos> ECLO <ECLO.Tswai@vodacom.co.za>
[13:57] <Kilos> ECLO.Tswai@vodacom.co.za
[13:58] <nuvolari> kodez: so you say I'm dumb? :P
[13:58] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints is <reply> ECLO.Tswai@vodacom.co.za
[13:58] <Maaz> Kilos: One learns a new thing every day
[13:58] <inetpro> Kilos: did they help you?
[13:59] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[13:59]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[13:59] <Kilos> they asked for the area giving trouble so they can inestigate inetpro 
[13:59] <kodez> nuvolari: i am saying only people who are interested in programming and also the level of the skills count as lot's of people here are failing to follow on what's happening
[13:59] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[13:59] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[14:00] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[14:00] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay
[14:00] <Kilos> Kerbero, coffee time
[14:00] <Kilos> en jy nuvolari 
[14:01] <Kilos> lets not waste electricity boilng the kettle for two guys
[14:03] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[14:03] <inetpro> Maaz: thanks
[14:03] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[14:03] <Kilos> lagging bad by me
[14:04] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[14:04] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[14:04] <Kilos> it says 2.9secs but maaz is taking forever to answer
[14:04] <inetpro> yikes Kilos, hier ook
[14:04] <Kilos> Maaz, wake up
[14:04] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[14:04] <inetpro> Kilos: dit is Maaz wat stadig is
[14:05] <Kilos> lol, ja lyk so
[14:05] <inetpro> te warm vir hom
[14:05] <Kilos> hy werk te min nou word hy lui
[14:05] <inetpro> Kilos: dit teh voda guys help you?
[14:05] <inetpro> the*
[14:06] <Kilos> has the daywalker-2018|3 said anything here yet
[14:06] <Kilos> inetpro, the mailed me and asked for my area so they can investigate
[14:06] <inetpro> ok
[14:07] <Kilos> We acknowledge receipt of your complaint; kindly forward us the address where you are experiencing network failure so we can address your query.
[14:07] <inetpro> Kilos: skuus, ek moet twee keer luister voor ek hoor
[14:07] <Kilos> Kind Regards,
[14:07] <Kilos> Executive Client Liaison Team.
[14:07] <Kilos> hehe jy word oud
[14:08] <Kilos> haha
[15:30] <Kilos> inetpro, jy moeg jaag daar kom n groot storm
[15:31] <Kilos> van die weste
[16:53] <Guest2646> ladies add me 21306ce0
[16:53] <nlsthzn_> Guest2646: why?
[16:57] <nlsthzn_> :(
[16:57] <nlsthzn_> Why didn't he want to speak to me :(
[18:03] <Kilos> inetpro, het jy nat gereen?
[18:04] <Kilos> hi again daywalker-2018|3 
[18:04] <Kilos> are you an updated vampire
[18:05] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:05]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:09] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:09] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:09] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[18:35] <Kilos> whew, what a busy channel
[18:38] <Kilos> hi Guest51746 
[18:38] <Kilos> ludo sounds familiar
[18:39] <nlsthzn_> o/ Kilos 
[18:40] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn what a lonely channel hey?
[18:40] <Kilos> at least we got maaz
[18:40] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:40]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:40] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[18:40] <Maaz> Kilos: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[18:42] <nlsthzn_> Maaz: tea please
[18:42] <Maaz> As soon as the kettle boils I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already
[18:42] <nlsthzn_> Maaz: thanks
[18:42] <Maaz> nlsthzn_: Okay :-)
[18:43] <Kilos> hehe
[18:43] <Kilos> another happy customer
[18:44] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:44] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:44] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[18:45] <nlsthzn_> :)
[18:46] <Kilos> i dunno how to make him call you when the water is boiling
[18:46] <Kilos> sigh
[18:46] <nlsthzn_> hehe
[18:46] <nlsthzn_> no worries
[18:52] <Kilos> i hope magespawn wasnt stomp inna game drive
[18:52] <Kilos> he is kinda scarce
[18:52] <Kilos> stomped
[18:53] <Kilos> Maaz, tell superfly Hope you are having a good holiday. We miss you here at ubuntu-za
[18:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell superfly on freenode
[18:54] <Kilos> i go crash now. night all. sleep tight
[21:09] <superfly> .
[21:09] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell superfly Hope you are having a good holiday. We miss you here at ubuntu-za" 2 hours, 16 minutes and 12 seconds ago
[21:10] <nlsthzn_> sup superfly 
[21:10] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos oom, hulle hou my besig hierdie kant... en ons is 9 ure agter julle
[21:10] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[21:11] <nuvolari> :> whoot! hi superfly 
[21:11] <superfly> hi nuvolari
[21:12] <nuvolari> Are you surviving over there? :P
[21:12] <superfly> nuvolari: more than surviving... these americans know how to eat!
[21:13] <nuvolari> haha! Good! But... can they do a proper braai?
[21:16] <nuvolari> superfly: do you have an extra suitcase? I want to bribe you into bringing me a keyboard back from the US :P
[21:17] <superfly> heh
[21:17] <superfly> we will be, what keyboard do you want?
[21:17]  * nlsthzn_ thinks that must be a very big keyboard if it needs its own suitecase 
[21:17] <nuvolari> the blank das keyboard
[21:18] <nuvolari> http://store.daskeyboard.com/Das-Keyboard-Ultimate-Model-Silent/dp/B003M4XGI4
[21:18] <superfly> blank das? where can I ge that?
[21:20] <nuvolari> they have 2 versions, but from what I understand the silent one is better for the office environment
[21:22] <superfly> nuvolari: how long will it take to ship?
[21:23] <nuvolari> superfly: well, they say 1 to 2 days on their site
[21:23] <superfly> nuvolari: OK, you want my in-laws' address?
[21:25] <nuvolari> for real? :D superfly, please! I can't let a chance like this slip by
[21:27] <superfly> nuvolari: did you get that?
[21:27] <nuvolari> superfly: affirmative
[21:29]  * nuvolari orders
[22:36] <nuvolari> night everyone
[22:36] <nuvolari> fp 
[22:36]  * nuvolari makes sure the watch is correct...
[22:36] <nuvolari> my oh my, where did the time go?
[22:37] <nlsthzn_> nuvolari: night