| mazda01 | howdy | 01:30 |
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| stochastic | hey | 01:30 |
| mazda01 | trying to get 11.04 freshly installed and booted and i can't seem to get to a GUI. | 01:31 |
| mazda01 | i've attempted to use the nomodeset boot option still to no avail. | 01:31 |
| stochastic | mazda01 you can always install regular ubuntu and then install all the ubuntu-studio packages | 01:32 |
| mazda01 | i have an old nvidia geforce4 MX 420 which requires the 96* version to have accelerated graphics BUT I don't really need it as my sole purpose is to use LMMS with a low latency kernel | 01:32 |
| stochastic | it gives you the same thing | 01:32 |
| mazda01 | do i just set the driver to nv or vesa in my xorg.conf file using tty1 and nano to change the file? | 01:33 |
| stochastic | does this bug occur when you install from regular ubuntu? | 01:34 |
| mazda01 | i tried the ubuntu-studio upgrade in my lucid lynx install and I was getting a ton of xruns. | 01:34 |
| stochastic | that still doesn't pertain to this bug though | 01:34 |
| mazda01 | not sure, i haven't done an Ubuntu install for a long time. I am still using Lucid Lynx, it suits my needs. | 01:34 |
| stochastic | well for this fresh install bug, you need to try a few other options | 01:35 |
| stochastic | to help me narrow it down | 01:35 |
| mazda01 | ok | 01:35 |
| stochastic | thanks | 01:35 |
| mazda01 | to be honest I am not really interested in fixing this bug BUT just getting to a graphical user interface to I can start making music. LOL | 01:36 |
| mazda01 | BUT, I can help with whatever you need. | 01:36 |
| mazda01 | unfortunately it's the same machine I am on now, dual booting, so not sure how much info I can provide | 01:36 |
| stochastic | I'm not too interested in fixing this bug either | 01:36 |
| stochastic | to be honest | 01:37 |
| stochastic | mazda01, if you want a GUI one of the best places to troubleshoot is through the regular ubuntu help arenas | 01:38 |
| mazda01 | then, lets not. LOL | 01:38 |
| stochastic | in general there is very little delta between US and U in the gui | 01:38 |
| mazda01 | ok, yeah, I believe its just a graphics driver issue is all. On a side note what kernel do you suggest for low to no xruns? | 01:38 |
| stochastic | got no recommendations to make right now | 01:39 |
| mazda01 | huh, ok. well, thanks for your time thus far. | 01:40 |
| ScottL | mazda01, what is your audio interface? | 01:40 |
| mazda01 | most likely JACK. not sure what Ubuntu Studio uses as default | 01:41 |
| ScottL | oi, i meant what hardware | 01:42 |
| ScottL | but i should ask first, are you playing instruments or recording vocals? | 01:42 |
| ScottL | i see now you mention LMMS, so i'm guessing you are sticking with synths and sequencers then | 01:43 |
| ScottL | and i'm guessing you will be using the onboard sound instead of a separate audio card or audio interface? | 01:43 |
| ScottL | mazda01, ^^^ | 01:43 |
| mazda01 | VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog] | 01:43 |
| stochastic | ahh a via chipset | 01:45 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, yes, for now onboard audio | 01:46 |
| ScottL | mazda01, have you ever used a PPA before? | 01:47 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, i really just want to create drum beats and pretty simple stuff to have as background audio for my youtube video of COD gameplay. | 01:47 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, yes | 01:47 |
| ScottL | ah, good...i'm not familiar with the performance of that chipset with the -generic kernel, but you might find alessio igor bogani's -lowlatency kernel very helpful | 01:48 |
| ScottL | you can google alessio's name and launchpad and find it | 01:48 |
| mazda01 | ok, will look into it. | 01:51 |
| mazda01 | i just read on other posts that the 11.04 installer in it's alpha stages wasn't installing ubuntustudio-desktop. I will install that from tty1. SO I am going now.. thanks for your help. | 01:51 |
| ScottL | mazda01, this intimates that you have an 11.04 disc from the alpha release, this is unwise | 01:53 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, not true, i download the iso from this page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.04/release/ | 01:54 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, i wasn't saying that was for sure the issue, i don't know yet. i have to reboot into that install | 01:55 |
| ScottL | ah, i understand now | 01:55 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, i mounted the partition, what could I look for where to see if it's installed? | 01:55 |
| ScottL | mazda01, of that i am unsure from just mounting the drive | 01:56 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, maybe if i searched /var/cache/apt/? | 01:57 |
| ScottL | mazda01, yes, that sounds reasonable | 01:57 |
| mazda01 | huh, nothing there. i did open history.log found within /var/log/apt/ and I don't see anything using *dekstop* as a search item | 02:01 |
| mazda01 | ScottL, thanks, i'll head over to ubuntu channel to see if they can help with this xorg GUI issue. | 02:01 |
| ScottL | i'm sorry i couldn't help you further | 02:02 |
| mazda01 | would you happen to know how to update a sources.list with that PPA as well as install the signing key? | 02:04 |
| mazda01 | i know it's a stretch but I thought id ask. | 02:05 |
| mazda01 | oh, i mean to do it from a total seperate ubuntu version | 02:05 |
| ailo | mazda01, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:abogani/ppa, for natty or oneiric | 02:06 |
| mazda01 | i can obviously access the sources.list BUT not sure about getting key installed while i am in lucid lynx | 02:06 |
| mazda01 | ailo, i am not in that install currently, i only have it mounted | 02:06 |
| ailo | add these: | 02:07 |
| ailo | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu natty main | 02:07 |
| ailo | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu natty main | 02:07 |
| ailo | Don't know about the key, but why not wait until you boot to natty, and do the add-apt instead+ | 02:08 |
| mazda01 | oh, i only need to run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:abogani/ppa and it will work? no key install thru terminal? | 02:08 |
| ailo | Right | 02:09 |
| mazda01 | oh, ok then. cool. thanks | 02:09 |
| ailo | mazda01, I'm pretty sure you won't get any drivers to work with that kernel | 02:10 |
| mazda01 | drivers? | 02:11 |
| ailo | graphic drivers | 02:11 |
| mazda01 | oh yeah, i know | 02:11 |
| mazda01 | audio modules should load though right? | 02:11 |
| mazda01 | snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec | 02:12 |
| ailo | Everything should work except proprietary graphic drivers. Graphic drivers might work, but I wouldn't bet on it | 02:12 |
| mazda01 | graphics driver "vesa" should work with it right? | 02:12 |
| ailo | mazda01, Just don't install any graphic drivers, and you'll be fine | 02:12 |
| ailo | Don't make any changes to xorg.conf. It's automatic | 02:12 |
| ailo | If you have a xorg.conf, rename it to something else | 02:12 |
| mazda01 | ok, thanks. later guys. thanks for your help! | 02:12 |
| mazda01 | ailo, well, that's the issue. I can't seem to get to a x server desktop | 02:13 |
| ailo | mazda01, Not even from a fresh install? | 02:14 |
| mazda01 | nope | 02:14 |
| mazda01 | ailo, it just sits there at a blank black screen | 02:14 |
| ailo | mazda01, are you sure ubuntustudio-desktop is installed? | 02:15 |
| mazda01 | ailo, i can go to tty1 and login though. what command would I issue to startx? | 02:15 |
| mazda01 | ailo, that's the thing, i am not sure. | 02:15 |
| ailo | mazda01, Just to make sure, is it a Ubuntustudio install, or a regular Ubuntu? | 02:16 |
| mazda01 | ailo, when i tried to first use nvidia-current package, it said it was to new for my old MX 420 card. so then I purged that and tried the nvidia-96 and it depends on xorg-video-abi-8.0 BUT is not installable | 02:16 |
| ailo | The drivers won't fix it | 02:17 |
| mazda01 | ailo, its an install using this iso ubuntustudio-11.04-alternate-amd64 | 02:17 |
| ailo | ok | 02:17 |
| ailo | Well, try: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop | 02:17 |
| ailo | And if it starts to install it, then that was the problem all along | 02:17 |
| mazda01 | i will mention though, it was an install using the iso NOT a cd or usb stick. shouldn't matter though | 02:17 |
| ailo | Yea, I don't think it should matter | 02:18 |
| ailo | In either case, you should get x working without doing anything except just installing the base system | 02:18 |
| ailo | I mean, the full OS install, as it is on the iso | 02:19 |
| mazda01 | ailo, ok, will give it a try. | 02:19 |
| mazda01 | ailo, thanks | 02:20 |
| mazda01 | see ya guys. | 02:20 |
| mazda01 | will report back IF i get in tonight | 02:20 |
| windcaller | Loving 11.10 but have a question. What program do you use for packages you get over the web to install a .deb file? The old ubuntustudio had program that just install .deb programs. I will miss the nautilus dropbox intergration | 02:30 |
| ScottL | windcaller, you should be able to double click the .deb file and the "fileroller" package will open and install it for you i believe | 02:31 |
| windcaller | ScottL, yes it does that but it does not install it it just extracts the files from the archive and does not really install it and give me a start program icon. | 02:35 |
| ScottL | can you please right click the .deb file and see what options are under 'open with...' | 02:36 |
| windcaller | ScottL: "Recommended Applications" Archive Manager and I have a whole slough of "Other Applications" | 02:38 |
| ScottL | archive manager shoul do it | 02:38 |
| ScottL | should | 02:38 |
| windcaller | I have searched to web on how to install a deb. package on xfce and could not find anything. do have I have to use the terminal? | 02:40 |
| ScottL | you can use dpkg -i foo.deb i believe | 02:41 |
| ScottL | please replace 'foo' with the appropriate .deb name :) | 02:41 |
| windcaller | thank you for the help. | 02:42 |
| ScottL | i wish i had been a much more direct help | 02:45 |
| windcaller | saw you on Linux Outlaws. I learned a lot from your interview. | 02:47 |
| windcaller | Any Recommendations to replace Dropbox or Ubuntu One that I can access through Thunar? | 02:51 |
| windcaller | found Thunar Dropbox plugin | 02:53 |
| windcaller | I just figured out that gnome is installed on 10.11 and installing nautilus is simple to install since gnome is already part of UbuntuStudio. | 03:04 |
| windcaller | unable to use Ubuntu tweak | 03:47 |
| ailo | windcaller, dropbox is available for 11.10 | 03:49 |
| ailo | windcaller, never mind | 03:49 |
| windcaller | I am using a Berringer U-Control and the system is not autoloading it. How do I autoload? | 04:24 |
| windcaller | the US11.10 does recognize my internal sound card | 04:27 |
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