[01:30] <mazda01> howdy
[01:30] <stochastic> hey
[01:31] <mazda01> trying to get 11.04 freshly installed and booted and i can't seem to get to a GUI.
[01:31] <mazda01> i've attempted to use the nomodeset boot option still to no avail.
[01:32] <stochastic> mazda01 you can always install regular ubuntu and then install all the ubuntu-studio packages
[01:32] <mazda01> i have an old nvidia geforce4 MX 420 which requires the 96* version to have accelerated graphics BUT I don't really need it as my sole purpose is to use LMMS with a low latency kernel
[01:32] <stochastic> it gives you the same thing
[01:33] <mazda01> do i just set the driver to nv or vesa in my xorg.conf file using tty1 and nano to change the file?
[01:34] <stochastic> does this bug occur when you install from regular ubuntu?
[01:34] <mazda01> i tried the ubuntu-studio upgrade in my lucid lynx install and I was getting a ton of xruns.
[01:34] <stochastic> that still doesn't pertain to this bug though
[01:34] <mazda01> not sure, i haven't done an Ubuntu install for a long time. I am still using Lucid Lynx, it suits my needs.
[01:35] <stochastic> well for this fresh install bug, you need to try a few other options
[01:35] <stochastic> to help me narrow it down
[01:35] <mazda01> ok
[01:35] <stochastic> thanks
[01:36] <mazda01> to be honest I am not really interested in fixing this bug BUT just getting to a graphical user interface to I can start making music. LOL
[01:36] <mazda01> BUT, I can help with whatever you need.
[01:36] <mazda01> unfortunately it's the same machine I am on now, dual booting, so not sure how much info I can provide
[01:36] <stochastic> I'm not too interested in fixing this bug either
[01:37] <stochastic> to be honest
[01:38] <stochastic> mazda01, if you want a GUI one of the best places to troubleshoot is through the regular ubuntu help arenas
[01:38] <mazda01> then, lets not. LOL
[01:38] <stochastic> in general there is very little delta between US and U in the gui
[01:38] <mazda01> ok, yeah, I believe its just a graphics driver issue is all. On a side note what kernel do you suggest for low to no xruns?
[01:39] <stochastic> got no recommendations to make right now
[01:40] <mazda01> huh, ok. well, thanks for your time thus far.
[01:40] <ScottL> mazda01, what is your audio interface?
[01:41] <mazda01> most likely JACK. not sure what Ubuntu Studio uses as default
[01:42] <ScottL> oi, i meant what hardware
[01:42] <ScottL> but i should ask first, are you playing instruments or recording vocals?
[01:43] <ScottL> i see now you mention LMMS, so i'm guessing you are sticking with synths and sequencers then
[01:43] <ScottL> and i'm guessing you will be using the onboard sound instead of a separate audio card or audio interface?
[01:43] <ScottL> mazda01, ^^^
[01:43] <mazda01> VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
[01:45] <stochastic> ahh a via chipset
[01:46] <mazda01> ScottL, yes, for now onboard audio
[01:47] <ScottL> mazda01, have you ever used a PPA before?
[01:47] <mazda01> ScottL, i really just want to create drum beats and pretty simple stuff to have as background audio for my youtube video of COD gameplay.
[01:47] <mazda01> ScottL, yes
[01:48] <ScottL> ah, good...i'm not familiar with the performance of that chipset with the -generic kernel, but you might find alessio igor bogani's -lowlatency kernel very helpful
[01:48] <ScottL> you can google alessio's name and launchpad and find it
[01:51] <mazda01> ok, will look into it.
[01:51] <mazda01> i just read on other posts that the 11.04 installer in it's alpha stages wasn't installing ubuntustudio-desktop. I will install that from tty1. SO I am going now.. thanks for your help.
[01:53] <ScottL> mazda01, this intimates that you have an 11.04 disc from the alpha release, this is unwise
[01:54] <mazda01> ScottL, not true, i download the iso from this page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.04/release/
[01:55] <mazda01> ScottL, i wasn't saying that was for sure the issue, i don't know yet. i have to reboot into that install
[01:55] <ScottL> ah, i understand now
[01:55] <mazda01> ScottL, i mounted the partition, what could I look for where to see if it's installed?
[01:56] <ScottL> mazda01, of that i am unsure from just mounting the drive
[01:57] <mazda01> ScottL, maybe if i searched /var/cache/apt/?
[01:57] <ScottL> mazda01, yes, that sounds reasonable
[02:01] <mazda01> huh, nothing there. i did open history.log found within /var/log/apt/ and I don't see anything using *dekstop* as a search item
[02:01] <mazda01> ScottL, thanks, i'll head over to ubuntu channel to see if they can help with this xorg GUI issue.
[02:02] <ScottL> i'm sorry i couldn't help you further
[02:04] <mazda01> would you happen to know how to update a sources.list with that PPA as well as install the signing key?
[02:05] <mazda01> i know it's a stretch but I thought id ask.
[02:05] <mazda01> oh, i mean to do it from a total seperate ubuntu version
[02:06] <ailo> mazda01, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:abogani/ppa, for natty or oneiric
[02:06] <mazda01> i can obviously access the sources.list BUT not sure about getting key installed while i am in lucid lynx
[02:06] <mazda01> ailo, i am not in that install currently, i only have it mounted
[02:07] <ailo> add these:
[02:07] <ailo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu natty main
[02:07] <ailo> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu natty main
[02:08] <ailo> Don't know about the key, but why not wait until you boot to natty, and do the add-apt instead+
[02:08] <mazda01> oh, i only need to run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:abogani/ppa and it will work? no key install thru terminal?
[02:09] <ailo> Right
[02:09] <mazda01> oh, ok then. cool. thanks
[02:10] <ailo> mazda01, I'm pretty sure you won't get any drivers to work with that kernel
[02:11] <mazda01> drivers?
[02:11] <ailo> graphic drivers
[02:11] <mazda01> oh yeah, i know
[02:11] <mazda01> audio modules should load though right?
[02:12] <mazda01> snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
[02:12] <ailo> Everything should work except proprietary graphic drivers. Graphic drivers might work, but I wouldn't bet on it
[02:12] <mazda01> graphics driver "vesa" should work with it right?
[02:12] <ailo> mazda01, Just don't install any graphic drivers, and you'll be fine
[02:12] <ailo> Don't make any changes to xorg.conf. It's automatic
[02:12] <ailo> If you have a xorg.conf, rename it to something else
[02:12] <mazda01> ok, thanks. later guys. thanks for your help!
[02:13] <mazda01> ailo, well, that's the issue. I can't seem to get to a x server desktop
[02:14] <ailo> mazda01, Not even from a fresh install?
[02:14] <mazda01> nope
[02:14] <mazda01> ailo,  it just sits there at a blank black screen
[02:15] <ailo> mazda01, are you sure ubuntustudio-desktop is installed?
[02:15] <mazda01> ailo, i can go to tty1 and login though. what command would I issue to startx?
[02:15] <mazda01> ailo, that's the thing, i am not sure.
[02:16] <ailo> mazda01, Just to make sure, is it a Ubuntustudio install, or a regular Ubuntu?
[02:16] <mazda01> ailo, when i tried to first use nvidia-current package, it said it was to new for my old MX 420 card. so then I purged that and tried the nvidia-96 and it depends on xorg-video-abi-8.0 BUT is not installable
[02:17] <ailo> The drivers won't fix it
[02:17] <mazda01> ailo, its an install using this iso ubuntustudio-11.04-alternate-amd64
[02:17] <ailo> ok
[02:17] <ailo> Well, try: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop
[02:17] <ailo> And if it starts to install it, then that was the problem all along
[02:17] <mazda01> i will mention though, it was an install using the iso NOT a cd or usb stick. shouldn't matter though
[02:18] <ailo> Yea, I don't think it should matter
[02:18] <ailo> In either case, you should get x working without doing anything except just installing the base system
[02:19] <ailo> I mean, the full OS install, as it is on the iso
[02:19] <mazda01> ailo, ok, will give it a try.
[02:20] <mazda01> ailo, thanks
[02:20] <mazda01> see ya guys.
[02:20] <mazda01> will report back IF i get in tonight
[02:30] <windcaller> Loving 11.10 but have a question.  What program do you use for packages you get over the web to install a .deb file?  The old ubuntustudio had program that just install .deb programs.  I will miss the nautilus dropbox intergration
[02:31] <ScottL> windcaller, you should be able to double click the .deb file and the "fileroller" package will open and install it for you i believe
[02:35] <windcaller> ScottL, yes it does that but it does not install it it just extracts the files from the archive and does not really install it and give me a start program icon.
[02:36] <ScottL> can you please right click the .deb file and see what options are under 'open with...'
[02:38] <windcaller> ScottL: "Recommended Applications" Archive Manager and I have a whole slough of "Other Applications"
[02:38] <ScottL> archive manager shoul do it
[02:38] <ScottL> should
[02:40] <windcaller> I have searched to web on how to install a deb. package on xfce and could not find anything.  do have I have to use the terminal?
[02:41] <ScottL> you can use dpkg -i foo.deb i believe
[02:41] <ScottL> please replace 'foo' with the appropriate .deb name :)
[02:42] <windcaller> thank you for the help.
[02:45] <ScottL> i wish i had been a much more direct help
[02:47] <windcaller> saw you on Linux Outlaws.  I learned a lot from your interview.
[02:51] <windcaller> Any Recommendations to replace Dropbox or Ubuntu One that I can access through Thunar?
[02:53] <windcaller> found Thunar Dropbox plugin
[03:04] <windcaller> I just figured out that gnome is installed on 10.11 and installing nautilus is simple to install since gnome is already part of UbuntuStudio.
[03:47] <windcaller> unable to use Ubuntu tweak
[03:49] <ailo> windcaller, dropbox is available for 11.10
[03:49] <ailo> windcaller, never mind
[04:24] <windcaller> I am using a Berringer U-Control and the system is not autoloading it.  How do I autoload?
[04:27] <windcaller> the US11.10 does recognize my internal sound card