[00:23] hi guys im having some trouble installing xubuntu x386 11.10 from a USB drive [00:30] what kind of problem? [00:30] does the USB turn into a fire?! [00:30] D: [00:31] hi, can i install a copy of evince that is linked against gtk2 instead of gtk3? [00:31] i guess [00:31] how [00:31] xubuntu has both engines so [00:31] just install it [00:32] just do sudo apt-get install evince? [00:32] So after I do xset dpms what do I do [00:33] Mahmoud, that should install a version of evince yes [00:33] i don't know if that would be gtk3 or 2 tho [00:34] Mahmoud: depending on your version of x/ubuntu you'll either get gtk3 or gtk2 [00:34] !info evince [00:34] evince (source: evince): Document (PostScript, PDF) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 199 kB, installed size 1088 kB [00:34] Mahmoud: until 11.04 you'll get evince gtk2 [00:34] Mahmoud: only in 11.10 there's the gtk3 version of evince [00:36] Ochosi if I install 11.10 will it just replace my current distribution [00:37] what distribution do you have Marion ? [00:37] ochosi: i have 11.10 but want evince linked against gtk2 [00:38] 11.04 [00:39] Marion: i guess it's not entirely easy to get the gtk2 version [00:39] eehm [00:39] i mean Mahmoud, not Marion [00:39] sad [00:40] will go dirty mode then (dirty stuff at xubuntu) [00:40] Mahmoud: why would you want the gtk2 version? [00:40] i mean what's the expected gain? [00:41] just to use gtk2 themes [00:41] i'll edit hte gtk2 theme and rename stuff to make it appear as gtk3 [00:41] see how it works [00:41] Mahmoud, xubuntu has the same theme on gtk3 than gtk2 [00:42] their default theme is somewhat white and screwed my eyes [00:42] oh [00:44] what's the latest one? dark_days? [00:44] or greybird [00:44] Mahmoud: yeah, that's a problem. no quick'n'easy solution for that [00:44] greybird is the only xubuntu-theme that has gtk2/3 support [00:45] damn. the gtk3 themes are structured very differently (.css files) [00:47] Mahmoud: yep i know, i made greybird's gtk3 variant (and the gtk2 one in fact :) ) [00:49] * GridCube was going to blame ochosi for not making a new albatross theme but he will not because he respects ochosi's hard work :D [00:52] hehe [00:54] greybird still sucks [00:55] i use atolm + my own changes so that i see no white bg at all while still being useable [00:56] white bg is just for the stupids who are still thinking that lcd/crt/plazma are white papers [01:38] whats causing "dbus-daemon" to hog 100% of my cpu -- do I have a rootkit or something -- 100% of cpu from bootup [01:45] /etc/int.d/dbus restart have to run even after reboot -- to get cpu down from 100% .. what's it doing? (dbus-daemon) [01:46] I suspect it's "gnome services" in startup [01:58] i don't even know what uses "dbus-daemon" [01:58] "messaging" [02:02] * GridCube has no idea [02:05] Hey gridcube how hard is it to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 [02:06] i would guess not so hard [02:06] but as i always do clean installs i don't really know [02:06] you should delete all the . starting folders on your home though [02:06] all the ones you are sure you don't need to keep [02:07] so you dont keep conflicting config files [02:07] and it should work pretty well [02:08] Stupid android [02:08] :P [02:09] So if I install 11.10 will it just replace the current distribution [02:10] pretty much, thats the idea [02:10] the upgrade went fine here [02:10] :) ^^ better help then :D [02:10] And would my files be safe our do I need to move them to my secondary hdd [02:11] Marion2, thats ALWAYS a good idea [02:11] should always be backing up anyway ;) [02:11] let me repeat it THATS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA [02:11] Who said I have good ideas [02:13] lag? sigh. [02:14] Ok so any changes I made to say dpms or setting up auto mount would I need to redo that [02:16] Marion2, on upgrades, i don't think so, but that could happen [02:16] * GridCube has never had much luck whit upgrades [02:16] I wouldn't do it [02:17] would clean install [02:17] think I only did an upgrade to 10.10 went ok though [02:17] yes i would do a clean install too [02:17] but then you need to reconfigure everything [02:18] :P thats not so hard when you remember how to edit fstab or save a copy of it somewhere and then replace it [02:26] with a clean install you don't get to keep things like firefox bookmarks [02:26] >save the json file >restore bookmarks [02:34] Sorry guys I'm at work [02:36] So back up my home folder and my con fig files i edited just to be on the safe side then cross my fingers to see what happens? [02:37] yeppers [02:37] yes [02:37] if you use firefox also save your bookmarks [02:37] I have my firefox profiles saved to my secondary hdd [02:39] :) [02:56] * rhin0 wondering why usb-creator-gtk creates usb installs that fail to boot now .. is that since 11.10 [02:57] or is my usb key worn out [02:57] naw [03:00] rhin0, you using this http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ ? [03:00] no I just use usb-creator-gtk -- blank the key - write the iso ... so far that's worked [03:01] never did that [03:01] unetbootin always worked for me [03:01] i think i've used that before -- creates usb keys specific to the distro -- ok that will prbably work -- suffice to say I think usb-creator-gtk has stopped working in 11.10 [03:02] you can use an iso whit unetbootin [03:03] ggg with no whit [03:03] i know i've used it before -- just have used usb-creator-gtk because it's simpler -- you don't have to select what distro -- just seemed to create a bootable usb for anything (before) [03:03] * GridCube needs to stop writing whit [03:04] :P [03:04] * rhin0 following the greece situation -- what will happen [03:18] I wish I was at home [04:05] I'm trying to install xubuntu-desktop, but apt-get hangs at 8% trying to fetch libpurple. [04:08] KingSphinx: try a different mirror [04:09] There's a different mirror for Xubuntu? [04:17] !mirror [04:17] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Oneiric, and help keeping the servers' load low! [04:18] yep you select it in synaptic [04:30] Hello, I'm trying to connect to a wireless network from a new Xubuntu install. lshw shows me that my wireless card is a BCM4311 device. I don't have any means to connect it via ethernet either so I tried the 'STA - No Intenet Access' method as described in the documentation: http://bit.ly/w0DUvf [04:31] However, running System->Additional Drivers doesn't show any new drivers available for install [04:31] Can someone please tell me what I ought to be doing? [04:32] The wireless device does not show up in ifconfig [04:32] If you're on IRC with that Xubuntu install, I think that means you got drivers working. [04:32] KingSphinx, heh, no this is a different machine [04:32] Oh wait... sorry. Didn't see the next posts. [04:33] Try restarting? That usually works for me and my BCM4318. [04:33] KingSphinx, yes, did that. Still no drivers visible [04:36] BTW, I'm still trying to install xubuntu-desktop, and it still sticks at 8% and fails. I don't have Synaptic because I run Kubuntu on my machine. [04:38] KingSphinx, you can make do with apt-get [04:38] no? [04:39] But apt-get is precisely the problem right now. When trying to install xubuntu-desktop with apt-get, it gets stuck trying to fetch libpurple and eventually fails with a "Hash suh mismatch" error. [04:39] *sum [04:52] KingSphinx: you can check in /etc/apt/sources.list which mirror you are using and maybe change it [04:53] hi there, im having trouble booting into my freshly installed xubuntu install. the splash screen loads, and then i get stuck at a looping screen [04:53] the screen just seems to flash over and over... [04:55] evelyn: that's weird - did you do the cd check? [04:55] hmm no, i think its a driver issue. seems like other people are having it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1807612 [04:56] i am able to switch to tty1 and get a login there [04:58] evelyn: tried running an update? [05:33] So I'm trying to boot a linux install disk and it just goes tip black after I choose install xubuntu [05:44] it'll probably need a kernel boot parameter for the graphics [06:11] hi how do i change my clock? it is incorrect by one hour [06:15] dpkg-reconfigure tzdata fixed it [07:37] so i burned a new copy of the xubuntu and its going to a black screen after i hit enyert on install xubuntu [07:38] did you do the cd check? [07:38] it'll probably need a kernel boot parameter for the graphics [07:39] so what do i need to do lawn? [07:39] first I'd check the cd from the cd's menu [07:40] at that menu that gives me the option to install? [07:40] yep [07:40] do you know the graphics card? [07:40] and that will do the kernel? [07:40] yeah its an ati graphics card [07:41] marion: it will check that the iso you burned it from is ok and that the burn went ok [07:42] ok how do i do the kernel update then [07:44] it's not an update [07:44] ok so what will i need to do for the kernel boot parameter [07:45] how did the cd check go? [07:45] havent done it yet [07:45] im on the linux machine [07:46] is there a way that i can do a cd check from within [07:47] I don't know about that - you could check the iso [07:47] !md5 [07:47] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [07:49] I'd be checking for a bad burn that causes all sorts of issues [07:51] ok i am redownloading just to be on the safe side [07:51] sure nice to see more activity here lately .. G'nite :) [08:01] within linux is there another program other than brasero that i can use to burn the iso [08:02] brasero is telling me there is not enough space on the disk for the iso [08:03] marion: there are several [08:03] marion: xfburn for example [08:04] marion: or that kde one, forgot the name [08:04] marion: k3b [08:04] marion: it's also possible, that the iso is too big for your cd [08:05] 677 iso 700 cd [08:31] Ok well laid lawn are you here still [08:35] Marion: yep [08:36] !tab | Marion [08:36] Marion: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [08:37] Marion: you can type wel and hit the tab key and get well_laid_lawn [09:34] hi! [09:34] how can i make the terminal start in fullscreen? [09:43] I can't find an option for that except hit F11 after it starts [09:48] i found ~/.local/share/applications [09:48] i guess that's key [09:51] that's just the mimetypes files [09:53] you could have a look at the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications [09:57] ok, so.. i added gnome-terminal.desktop to ~/.local/share/applications and put Exec=gnome-terminal --window --maximize in it [09:57] that does work but it's buggy somehow [09:57] it's too big [10:00] why gnome-terminal? [10:01] xubuntu has xfce4-terminal [10:01] yes, but i don't use it since it's all bold somehow [10:03] if you run the gnome terminal command from a terminal is the size right? [10:07] i found a setting in the options that lets me set the geometry [10:07] that's good enough [10:07] great [12:06] morning [12:06] can I install xubuntu from inside ubuntu? [12:07] yes [12:07] apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [12:07] !purexfce [12:07] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [12:08] and parallel works too [12:08] thanks [12:09] can i somehow hide the skype icon from the xfce notification area? so far i only found how i can hide it under unity. [12:21] skype's settings? [12:26] didn't find anything there. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [13:31] gju_: if you right-click the panel and get to the settings-dialog of the notification-area you can hide skype's icon [13:31] gju_: but an arrow will remain to bring the hidden icons back, winxp-style [13:37] thanks for the tip, but it seems that skye doesn't but its icon in this part of the notification-area. at least i cannot hide it in the menu. [13:46] hello, does somebody know how to configure bash in xubuntu so that tab-completion works for commands prefixed with 'sudo' ?? [13:47] (in a simlar way to how the 'normal' ubuntu terminal works) [13:48] works like that for me.. [13:48] hmmm is it controlled by .bashrc or a different file? [13:54] ok fixed it: `sudo aptitude install bash-completion` [13:54] not sure why it was not installed as part of the base xubuntu-desktop metapackage... === c933103 is now known as orzxx [14:14] Hi guys. Look, I have a weird problem. Xubuntu 11.10. After rebooting computer it connects to my wireless network automatically but when i disconnect it AND try to reconnect it.. the sigh just circles on and on and doesn't connect [14:15] So, it just works when it automatically connects at startup [14:15] I think it has to do with Avahi deamon.... but not sure [14:16] Now.. I'm connected... but if I want to reconnect it will not work till I restart my computer [14:17] it's driving me insane [14:19] Also:: ad_hoc networks work::: but access point one; don't [14:20] Several times I had pop-out about Avahi service and local domain... === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [14:35] hello. Is there a way to replace thunar with nautilus or pcmanfm properly? [14:37] braintorch: what do you mean? just use the other file manager [14:38] when I open directory or removable drive from desktop it launches thunar [14:38] I searched some option in xfdesktop but had no luck === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [14:54] braintorch: you can disable that in thunar's preferences [14:56] salve [14:56] TheSheep: if you mean "volume management" I have disabled it already. [14:57] come si può cambiare il cursore di testo in xubuntu in modo da averne uno più sottile? [14:57] !it | nicola [14:57] nicola: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [14:58] ok [16:01] hi is there a sticky or a faq for installing sun/oracle java in xubuntu 11.10? [16:02] !java [16:02] To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. [16:32] Reinstalled with Xubuntu 11.10 last night, and so far, I've only gotten sound partially working through my USB headset. That is, I can hear stuff, but the volume control on the headset doesn't work, I have to adjust it using pavucontrol. [16:35] volume control physically doesn't work or panel applet doesn't? [16:37] The volume applet looks like it works (it notifies me about volume changing and whatever), but sound isn't actually getting any quieter/louder, it stays at a constant volume. [16:37] I don't know if that all got through... [16:41] KingSphinx: change it to use proper mixer/device in settings [16:46] I've tried that, but volume still doesn't work properly. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [18:07] <[h4wk]> hi 2 all [18:07] <[h4wk]> I have a question? [18:07] <[h4wk]> :) [18:09] hi [18:09] I love xUbuntu [18:13] <[h4wk]> xD [18:13] <[h4wk]> we all love it :D [18:13] *Xubuntu (I think xbox-ubuntu was called xUbuntu) [18:14] <[h4wk]> Sysi can you help me I have a litle question... [18:14] say seomething with question mark and we'll see [18:15] <[h4wk]> Is there any way to edit xubuntu right-click apps menu? [18:15] it should be the same as panel menu [18:16] <[h4wk]> ok...but how can it be edited? [18:16] alacarte or lxmenued [18:16] <[h4wk]> thank you....lxmenued? [18:16] apt-get install --no-install-recommends alacarte [18:16] <[h4wk]> thanks :D [18:17] something like that, lxmenuedit [18:20] <[h4wk]> Yeah this is cool :D [18:27] <[h4wk]> @Sysi but some of options are not working...is it better to install it with recommends? [18:52] if used gparted to create a partition-- can i in turn "reclaim" that space/partition ? more or less put that partition space back from where i took it from? [19:00] preecher: where did you take it from? [19:00] preecher: you can delete the partition [19:00] preecher: it will then appear as free space [19:02] TheSheep, i took it from my main partition where i have xubuntu installed--i was going to dual boot between a couple of different distros but decided i dont wish to do that now and want to put it back if possible but i can always do a reinstall but was just looking for a easy way out [19:06] preecher: you can resize your old partiion when you delete that new one [19:06] TheSheep, i will do that then many thanks-) [19:11] hey there [19:12] Hi [19:12] just moved to 11.10, I'd like to know among other things: what on earth were nautilus and gnome-settings-daemon installed and running on reboot // what is this new power notification icon in my notification area and how do I get rid of it // why is empathy not using my default font size anymore? [19:12] and also, where is my wallpaper? [19:15] I just found the "Settings Manager" myself, but it seems to cover Notifications/Wallpapers/Startup stuff.. its in the middle of the app launcher [19:16] SiDi: empathy? nautilus? sounds like you have gnome installed [19:17] SiDi: the extra power manager icon is probably from gnome-power-manager [19:17] TheSheep: I'm kind of furious yeah. I signed in for XFCE :D [19:17] Or he has a tick in the "Launch GNOME services on startup" under Compatibility options [19:17] SiDi: how did you install it? [19:17] it was gnome-settings-daemon [19:17] TheSheep: regular update; [19:18] grizly: pretty sure I havent :d [19:18] grizly: that would not explain how they got to his disk in the first place [19:18] gsd was long time uninstalled [19:18] SiDi: my theory is that you have some application installed than suddenly became dependent on nautilus in the new version [19:18] SiDi: so the update pulled it in [19:18] SiDi: but it's just a working hypothesis [19:19] thats not a valid reason for that thing to think it can replace my fluffy and sweet xfdesktop [19:19] and thunar [19:19] agreed, but nautilus is bad mannered like that [19:19] your hypothesis is most likely right [19:19] just remove it [19:19] with package manager [19:20] ahah i purged it :D [19:20] now onto font size problems [19:25] lol the release notes claim exaile is still the default player [19:27] to be honest I long ago lost touch with xubuntu defaults, picked my own apps for everything and sticking with them [19:27] and that's probably the best way for experienced users [19:27] that is, for those who actually care which application they are using [19:35] TheSheep: yeah and thats why i dont want an upgrade to add me some apps i dont use [19:35] :D [19:37] you can always remove them [19:38] but agreed, compulsive upgrading just because there is a new version is not good [19:39] good bye pulseaudio [19:40] i'm pissed that i update my system in order to have a recent kernel and apps and that then i have to uninstall DAEMONS that i never asked for [19:40] Im not sure if i did remove xubuntu-desktop before [19:40] but this still annoys me :D [19:41] pulseaudio is useful [19:41] Ok, exaile is completely broken [19:41] TheSheep: it's not to me :o) [19:42] SiDi: if you like to configure your sound card in every application separately, then sure, go ahead [19:43] TheSheep: GStreamer provides enough interfaces for what I need [19:44] i know its friday but i dont have time for troll wars :p [19:49] hm [19:50] ochosi: there have been changes in GStreamer [19:50] ochosi: which might explain the xfce4-volumed bugs and why exaile isnt running anymore. [19:50] I feel like installing debian :/ [20:05] does anybody know how to enable the thinkpad hotkeys under xubuntu? like Fn+F4 for suspend [20:08] So I am trying to run the 11.10 live cd and it wont support the kernel is there a fix [20:11] kapuze: they should work by default unless your laptop's not properly recognized [20:13] they are recognized well, they work under gnome [20:18] So is there a fix fire the kernel [20:19] hello [20:20] solved, i had to configure the shortcut in the settings [20:22] can 32 bit program versions be installed on 64 bit OS ? [20:23] kapuze: then its probably that the key was bound by gnome-settings-daemon, and isnt managed by xfce. Which keys is it? [20:23] Fn+F4 to suspend the computer [20:27] kapuze: you might want to ask in #xfce. It should be done by xfce4-power-manager, I think. but it's been a while since I last had a look at these things [20:30] SiDi: u are right man, i found a setting there in the powet-manager, thanks [20:42] I am having a kernel issue [20:47] hello everyone I am trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and its telling me that it cant support the kernel for the graphics. Does anyone know a way to fix this [20:56] hi === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [21:37] hi, anyone know how to disable scrolling on mousepad? (xubuntu 11.10) [21:39] pertutatis: you can edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf file for that [21:42] how can i do that? [22:00] pertutatis: try in a terminal gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf [22:00] ok [22:00] and turn anything with scroll in the name to off [22:01] sorry but nothing happens [22:03] what is suposed to run that? [22:05] what is the simplest way to video call someone from xubuntu to a windows machine? [22:06] pertutatis: you'll need to at least logout for it to take affect [22:06] executionist: gmail [22:06] the mail client? or google talk? [22:07] pertutatis: you could make the change through synclient immediately === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [22:22] sorry I dont get it [22:24] pertutatis: synclient is the terminal application that lets you set touchpad properties [22:24] man synclient [22:25] may i type man synclient on terminal? [22:25] * TheSheep prefers gpointing-device-settings [22:27] I'm lost here sorry === kevin is now known as Guest56066