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Space-Ducko.O but I want eye candy.00:00
holsteinSpace-Duck: 10.04 :)00:00
holsteinor wait a bit longer... im sure its on the way00:00
holsteinubuntu1110: im not sure what you are asking me?00:01
holsteinis there a 'disk utility' on the live cd's?00:01
holsteinis that the question?00:01
Space-Ducksystem info says my graphics drive is unkown00:01
Space-Duckcould that be the issue?00:01
holsteinSpace-Duck: yeah... try the compiz script00:02
ubuntu1110I THINK I JUST holstein LOOKED At the disk informationa of the unallocated space, 931gb, and it was fine, maybe i have to write zero over that00:02
Space-Duckthe compiz script?00:02
ubuntu1110yes, ccan i open disk utility on 1110 live  cd nowß?, do you know?00:02
holsteinubuntu1110: i mean... i can..00:02
ubuntu1110ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo open udisks ??00:03
holsteinthe 'disk utility' im thinking of is in the menu00:03
holsteinand its literally called 'disk utility'00:04
ubuntu1110uh k, found it00:04
holsteinSpace-Duck: http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check00:04
holsteini was trying for a while, then realized i was using the vesa driver ;)00:04
ubuntu1110how do i run the test that u meant?00:04
holsteinubuntu1110: its there... smart test00:05
holsteinits a GUI00:05
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holsteinubuntu1110: on the left you should see the drives00:05
holsteinhover over the drive you want to check out with the cursor and press the mouse button to select it00:05
ubuntu1110holstein there a 3 version of the test?00:06
ubuntu1110which one can u suggest00:06
holsteinyou'll see 'smart data' hover over that and click00:06
holsteinthen, you get a popup00:06
ubuntu1110im there00:06
holsteini suggest the extended one00:06
ubuntu1110uh k00:06
ubuntu1110thx, hostein00:06
holsteinsure :)00:06
ubuntu1110thx, holstein00:07
Space-Duckholstein, it says my driver in not in the whitelist00:10
Space-Duckand seeing how systeminfo says it's unknown, I can see why it would not be in the whitelist00:11
holsteinSpace-Duck: there you go... it doesnt lie :)00:11
Space-DuckHow do you install a video card drive for a nvidia geforce 5200?00:11
holsteinusually theres a popup for it... i check the 'restricted drivers' area... and i look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia00:12
holsteinbut, i think unity-2d is quite slick00:12
holsteini didnt even know00:12
Space-Duckreplacing video card driver now.... last time I did this I had to reinstall.00:15
holsteinSpace-Duck: check the xorg.conf file if you have issues... ive been there before too ;)00:16
holsteinthe last few times i *didnt* have to reinsatll and i was stoked00:16
Space-Duckdamnit, I gotta reboot. I thought rebooting for settings was only a winblows thing.00:18
holsteinSpace-Duck: its a driver though00:18
holsteinand a kernel module00:18
holsteini mean, theres probably a way *not* to, but rebooting is easy :)00:18
Space-Duckholstein, thanks for you help! If I don't make it back.... I'm installing 10.0400:19
holsteinhehe00:19
notreallyherehave ubuntu 11.04 desktop, recently stopped booting. downloaded 11.10 to usb and booted from it and can see the hard drive. don't really know much about linux. is is there a way to rebuild the boot folder or some other folder/files to recover the drive?02:39
philipballewnotreallyhere, lets work at this02:44
notreallyhereok02:44
philipballewfirst off, do you know what might have happened that caused it to stop booting?02:45
notreallyhereno, was working great for about six months, it is my sister-in-laws computer. she stated that she turned it on and it only showed a blank screen02:47
philipballewalright. well i can help you with some stuff02:47
notreallyhereI thought the hard drive may have failed02:47
philipballewwe can look at that as well :)02:48
notreallyherethats why I tried the usb02:48
notreallyheresince I can see it02:48
philipballewmakes sense02:48
notreallyheremight it be OK?02:48
philipballewi would not know, but i would run a test on it myself02:49
philipballewis gparted installed on your machine?02:50
philipballewor are you comfortable with the terminal?02:50
notreallyherewhere would I look for it02:50
notreallyhereI'm kinda accustomed to windows02:51
notreallyhereI am chatting from another machine in a different room02:52
philipballewah, well this is 11.10 so click on the top box or square with the ubuntu logo on the side bar. type gparted and open it02:52
notreallyhereok it is up02:54
philipballewwould you take a screen shot and post it to say immage bin or something such as that?02:55
notreallyherenot sure how to do that since I am on a different computer02:56
BeckaI am teaching a course in open source software development next term at the colleigiate level.  I would like to use Ubuntu as the community to get my students engaged in.  Who would I want to communicate with to find out about setting up mentors for my students? Or where would I go to ask this question?02:58
philipballewthe ubuntu comp should have a network connection? notreallyhere02:59
philipballewBecka, well. lets see02:59
philipballewwhat kind of development?03:00
BeckaI am thinking easy bug fixes.  It is only a ten week course, so I really just want to get them engaged to encourage them to continue participation.  This is part of research to engage more under represented groups.  I am hoping to create a model to increase diversity and Ubuntu is a good community to start them in03:01
holsteinBecka: theres also easier non-coding projects like #ubuntu-news03:02
notreallyhereyes it has network, just not sure how to do screenshot in ubuntu03:02
philipballewthere is #ubuntu-bugs03:02
holsteinyeah, thats a lenthy ordeal though i think03:03
philipballewnotreallyhere, doees the keybord have a screenshot key03:03
holsteindoesnt mean you cant just work on it though03:03
notreallyherethere is a key with "Prt Scrn"03:04
philipballewyeah, that03:05
BeckaPhilipballew and holstien, I am looking for people who would be good at introducing newcomers to open source to the community.  These are CS students who have programming, but they are not familiar with OSS03:05
philipballewoh cool, what college?03:05
notreallyhereI hold shift and press that, then what?03:05
BeckaWestern Oregon University03:05
philipballewpress prt screen notreallyhere03:05
urlin2uBecka, been on the campus years ago from salem03:06
philipballewnice. I would email a email list. I can put out a announcement to ubuntu planet. A place where community members read other members blogs. I would email your organ LoCo as well. the guy who runs it is a friend of mine and a nice guy03:07
philipballewbut imo Becka a mailing list would be a good idea. you could also have someone from the organ loco come speak03:09
holsteinBecka: yeah, bring them here, or the OT channel.. #ubuntu-beginners-team03:09
BeckaPhilip would you be willing to give me his name so I could contact him directly?  And Urlin2u I am quite fond of our campus.  It is an amazing place to teach  :-)03:09
holsteinwe could help sort them out into other groups of interest from there03:09
philipballewyeah, he lives in Portland as well. let me see if he is around to03:10
urlin2uBecka, you familiar with the oregon ubuntu local on freenode?03:10
holsteinyeah, someone from the LOCO if its active could be helpful in person03:10
BeckaThese are great ideas!!!03:10
BeckaI believe I saw a chanel for loco oregon03:11
urlin2uBecka, I think this is the channel look for bkrensa  #ubuntu-us-or03:11
philipballewBecka, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-or https://launchpad.net/~bkerensa03:12
philipballewIRC: #ubuntu-us-or03:12
BeckaThank you so much for pointing me in the right direction.03:13
BeckaI will go see what I can stir up there03:13
BeckaYou all have been great help03:13
philipballewAnytime, if nothing works out there find us on here again, but i am confident it will03:14
BeckaI will take you up on that if need be.  I know my students will enjoy the tone of what I have seen so far in this community.  You reinforce the fact that I chose well with Ubuntu :-)03:15
philipballewanytime, I am a student as well and use ubuntu quite happily being a CIS major. Ubuntu is the best ever :)03:17
BeckaWhere areyou a student?03:17
philipballewPoint Loma Nazarene University in San Diego03:18
BeckaAhhh, you have the sun.  Very cold here.  I hope you enjoy your studies.  Computer science is one of the most amazing, creative and powerful things I have ever encountered.03:20
philipballewMe as well. I hope it takes me somewhere :)03:21
notreallyherei am quite familiar with file transfers using IRC03:31
philipballewyes, but when you paste in on a link others can look and share their input03:32
philipballewbut you can send it if you want03:33
philipballewand ill paste it03:33
notreallyhereno paste link I can dcc it directly to you03:33
philipballewhum, alright03:33
notreallyhereu should have it03:34
philipballewlet me check03:37
philipballewmy internet is really slow here. send it one more time03:39
philipballewits kinda funky with files03:39
philipballewwhat your probably gonna wanna do is look at what grub is doing and maybe update your mbr03:40
notreallyherehttp://imagebin.org/18256503:41
philipballewokay03:41
philipballewpaste sudo fdisk -l03:42
philipballewinto http://paste.ubuntu.com/03:42
notreallyherenot sure what u mean or how  to do that03:43
bodhizazen!pastebinit03:43
ubot2pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com03:43
notreallyhereu mean an image ir the folder03:43
philipballewopen a terminal and post the output of sudo fdisk -l03:44
philipballew:)03:44
bodhizazensudo fdisk -l | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com03:44
notreallyhereok03:44
philipballewbodhizazen, knows whats up03:44
bodhizazen'lo philipballew03:45
philipballewi have to take a 15 minute break to get a part for my vehicle03:46
holsteinnotreallyhere: theres a disk utility03:53
holsteinyou can run the smart tests (usually) on the hard drive03:53
holsteini would test the ram too since that is easy as well03:53
CrOnOs2000hi guys what are you talking about?03:55
holsteinCrOnOs2000: hey... i think notreallyhere is diagnosing a machine03:55
bodhizazennotreallyhere, is having questions, but I missed the beginning part, sort of waiting03:55
holsteinyeah, me too03:55
* holstein catching up03:56
Unit193< ~notreallyhere> have ubuntu 11.04 desktop, recently stopped booting. downloaded 11.10 to usb and booted from it  and can see the hard drive. don't really know much about linux. is is there a way to rebuild  the boot folder or some other folder/files to recover the drive?03:56
bodhizazenprobably need to start by looking at the logs03:57
holsteinblack screen could be bad graphics card though03:58
holsteinor ram...03:58
bodhizazenyea, could be most anything03:59
CrOnOs2000ic well it can be any number of problems, runing grub again may fix it but we need to know the root of the problem03:59
bodhizazenbut if the live USB boots ram and videocard seem less likely03:59
notreallyhereI have it running from a usb rite now so those things are fine03:59
bodhizazennotreallyhere, what happens when you boot to hard drive ?04:00
bodhizazenEdit the grub boot like, remove the words quiet and splash from the kernel line04:00
notreallyhereI n that is blank but NOT black04:00
bodhizazenthen let it boot and tell us the error message or describe the problem04:00
notreallyheresorry04:00
notreallyherelag04:00
CrOnOs2000yea, i may run a low level hdd check software just to be shure like spinrite or hdd regenerator04:01
notreallyhereI get a screen that is blank but NOT BLACK04:01
bodhizazenthe options quiet and splash are (I presume) hiding your error messages04:01
bodhizazenIf you are running from a live USB ...04:02
bodhizazenMount your ubuntu root partition at say /mnt04:02
notreallyhereI am not familiar with Linux so those suggestions are not really making sense to me04:02
bodhizazenthen cd /mnt/var/log and start looking at the contents of dmesg , boot, message ...04:02
notreallyheregreek04:03
bodhizazenwell , either fire up google or re install then04:03
notreallyhereI thought this was for BEGINNERS?04:03
CrOnOs2000is not that hard notreallyhere04:03
bodhizazenIt is going to be difficult to impossible to explain all that on IRC when you have a crappy connection04:04
bodhizazenBoot Ubuntu , hold down the shit key04:04
notreallyheremine is fime04:04
bodhizazenyou will then get the grub menu04:04
bodhizazenFollow the on screen instructions04:04
bodhizazene for edit04:04
bodhizazengo to the kernel line, the one with vmilnuz-version .... root= ..... quiet splash04:05
bodhizazenhit enter to edie04:05
bodhizazen*edit04:05
bodhizazenremove the words quiet and splash04:05
bodhizazenboot04:05
bodhizazenI think it is control-x04:05
bodhizazenbut the instructions are on your screen :p04:05
bodhizazenYou will get a lot of messages as the system boots04:06
bodhizazenand it will hang somewhere04:06
bodhizazenwhat is the error message ?04:06
bodhizazen===== Live USB instructions ===04:07
bodhizazensudo -i04:07
bodhizazenfdisk -l04:07
bodhizazenfrom that output identify your ubuntu root partitin04:07
bodhizazenmount /dev/sda1 /mnt04:07
bodhizazencd /mnt/var/log04:07
bodhizazentail messages04:07
bodhizazentail demsg04:07
bodhizazentail boot04:07
bodhizazenany error messages ?04:08
bodhizazen==== End wall of greek speak ====04:08
bodhizazenBut if you can not follow that and give us more information ...04:08
bodhizazenwe would be $random_guessing your problem04:08
bodhizazenOnce we identify $your_problem there will be another wall of commands to fix the problem04:09
bodhizazenPerhaps one command04:09
bodhizazenperhaps 5 , 10 ?? 20 ???04:09
CrOnOs2000notreallyhere, it may look hard but is not just try and we will help dont be afraid of the terminal even if you dont know about linux commands04:10
bodhizazenso you will need to use $google to help fill in the gaps or consider backing up your data an re-install04:10
notreallyhereokay I will try what you suggest, and I thank you for you patience and help. Very late here and I will get back tomorrow, I will keep this connection on04:10
bodhizazennotreallyhere, http://linuxcommand.org/04:13
bodhizazennotreallyhere, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin04:15
bodhizazenpastebin those errors, copy and paste them from your terminal to your browser or use pastebinit like I showed you04:16
bobweaverCan any one help me I can not get bzr to install it. I am in dependencey heck right now with it The following packages have unmet dependencies: bzr : Depends: python-bzrlib (<= 2.4.1-1ubuntu1.1~) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed Recommends: bzrtools but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.04:36
bobweaverlooks like I got it had to add there ppa04:41
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jisaacs1207hey, anyone awake?10:22
nlsthznhey jisaacs120710:42
nlsthznif you have a question ask... sure someone will attempt to assist10:42
hobgoblinhi zeroseven0183 sattu9411:03
sattu94?11:04
sattu94hi11:04
zeroseven0183hey what's up hobglobin11:04
hobgoblinzeroseven0183: not much - juts hanging about waiting for inspiration to strike :)11:05
zeroseven0183And what kind of inspiration would it be?11:05
zeroseven0183Dinnertime! Sorry people, I have to 'park' my login here for a few moments. Hobglobin, later!11:08
duanedesign'lo all12:36
nlsthzno/ duanedesign12:49
Guest34922my unity is crashed I cant able to see the dash ,panel,status menu etc ..I purged unity and reinstalled it but no luck ....please help21:45
philipballewGuest34922, lets look into this21:45
philipballewyou purged it and now you reinstalled? well did you start it?21:46
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