| DarwinSurvivor | dscassel: I've used manual network config (static IP) in the installer before (11.04 at least). Sounds like a bug to me. | 03:48 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:17 |
| FiReSTaRT | woot.. replacing kde's nm with gnome's fixed the wireless connectivity issues... i declare my install of kubuntu fully functional :P | 15:43 |
| BluesKaj | FiReSTaRT, yeah, there some issues with the kde network manager , unfortunately it sucks mostly , dunno why the devs don't do more work on it if they want tyhe laptop crowd to use kubuntu | 15:49 |
| FiReSTaRT | considering that we are cannibalizing the desktop segment bigtime | 15:50 |
| FiReSTaRT | in my case it's not critical because i am plugged into one of the switches | 15:50 |
| FiReSTaRT | but still nice to have | 15:50 |
| FiReSTaRT | so i can for example connect to the local network via eth to access local resources and connect to another ap to access the internet via wifi | 15:51 |
| * FiReSTaRT gives BobJonkman a TSI ^5 (i'm on cable though) | 15:51 | |
| BobJonkman | FiReSTaRT: Cable from TSI is acceptable | 15:52 |
| FiReSTaRT | it better be.. the bell copper in my area is brutal | 15:52 |
| FiReSTaRT | mostly bsw's with crumbling insulation | 15:52 |
| * BobJonkman goes to the channel log to see what conversation he's interrupting | 15:53 | |
| FiReSTaRT | even at the bell box (conveniently placed in my yard) i can't get decent line stats | 15:53 |
| FiReSTaRT | no worries, just general observations on how crappy knetworkmanager is and how replacing it with gnome's nm rocks :P | 15:53 |
| BobJonkman | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/05/%23ubuntu-ca.html is strangely empty | 15:54 |
| BluesKaj | FiReSTaRT, I have a belkin USB wifi adapter that worked well on 10.04 then I couldn't get any network manager to load it's modules / drivers and ndiswrapper was hopeless then in 11.10 the drivers finally worked rt2870, or 2780 , I've forgotten. In the meantime I reconnected the eth0 , and totally dumped NM in favour of the static lan IP and /etc/network/interfaces file running my internet connection | 15:55 |
| FiReSTaRT | i run scripts on the work laptop | 15:55 |
| FiReSTaRT | but i like having a nice and easy gui tool :P | 15:55 |
| BluesKaj | we should start recommending the gnome nm in kubuntu , maybe that will get some attention | 15:56 |
| FiReSTaRT | not a bad idea | 15:57 |
| FiReSTaRT | wicd is the solution of choice but i | 15:57 |
| BluesKaj | there's realy no excuse for the crappy knetwork manager or whatever it's called now | 15:57 |
| FiReSTaRT | have never been a fan of it | 15:57 |
| BluesKaj | wicd was borked for a while too | 15:58 |
| FiReSTaRT | gnome nm has always worked well for me, so i never had a valid reason to look for an alternative | 15:58 |
| FiReSTaRT | until i extended my middle finger to tablet de's like g3 and unity... unity is even relatively useful and could grow on my but it's restricted to a single distro | 15:59 |
| BluesKaj | I tried unity ..not my cuppa tea | 16:01 |
| BobJonkman | I've got a desktop on which I installed 11.10, and the Gnome NM isn't working. Fiddled /etc/netwoking manually, and it's connected, but NM still shows no connection. 'sup? | 16:02 |
| FiReSTaRT | BluesKaj: generally it's not, and i like kde better, but it's still better than g3 and unfortunately, the authoritarian types have rammed them down our throats | 16:02 |
| FiReSTaRT | BobJonkman: that never happened to me.. but i've always used it with bcm and ath chipsets.. you've got ralink? | 16:03 |
| BobJonkman | No idea. It's a refurbished computer, assembled from parts | 16:04 |
| BobJonkman | (mind you, the best parts) | 16:04 |
| BobJonkman | It doesn't bother me particularly. I've got network connectivity, and just need to find out how to remove the NM icon from the panel | 16:05 |
| FiReSTaRT | just run sudo lshw | 16:07 |
| FiReSTaRT | and it should give you the vendor for your wireless interface | 16:07 |
| BluesKaj | BobJonkman, it's been bypassed by /etc/network/interface , if you don't plan using any wifi devices to connect to the internet on that pc then you can remove NM | 16:08 |
| BobJonkman | It's a tower under the desk, no WiFi. I'll have a look on Monday | 16:10 |
| FiReSTaRT | ahh ok.. so some eth issues, which are rare with gnu/linux nowadays | 16:11 |
| * FiReSTaRT bbiab, need caffeine fix | 16:11 | |
| BluesKaj | FiReSTaRT, kde network manager works fine wih ethernet connections , if you want it to handle that for you , but i prefer the more dirct approach , static lan IPs and no dhcp , with the network interfaces and resolv.conf files handling the connectivity | 16:18 |
| BluesKaj | BBL...lunch | 16:21 |
| FiReSTaRT | BluesKaj: i just switche it over to gnome's nm, which is a versatile and functional tool for both wired and wireless, so it's all good :) | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | FiReSTaRT, yeah I realize that , I mean't to direct that comment to BobJonkman | 16:35 |
| BluesKaj | err meant | 16:35 |
| FiReSTaRT | ahh ok | 16:37 |
| FiReSTaRT | im just glad i got that fixed | 16:37 |
| FiReSTaRT | still waiting to give mint 12 a test-drive | 16:37 |
| FiReSTaRT | i heard they were gonne use custom extensions to put some g2.x functionality back into g3 | 16:38 |
| BluesKaj | heh , there are dissatified new ubuntu users threatening to go back to W7 , let them I say ...they think threats will make us want to help them more . somehow :) | 16:38 |
| FiReSTaRT | i'm a dissatisfied power-user and been encouraging people to go with mint instead :P | 16:40 |
| FiReSTaRT | however, now that they're switching over to g3, i may just go back to ubuntu, but the k-version | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | g3 and kde4.8 are supposed to be pals once the bugs are worked out ...kde has some fixing to be done as well as g3 | 16:42 |
| FiReSTaRT | not as much.. g3 is too tablet-oriented, even more so than unity.. kde still appears like a normal de | 16:42 |
| BluesKaj | then g3 isn't for me | 16:44 |
| FiReSTaRT | what the mint devs are doing is extending g3 so it performs more like g2.x but maintains compatibility with g3 (that's what i heard).. still tweaking it for the new release | 16:47 |
| FiReSTaRT | i will give it a shot.. i am running katya on my media centre without any hitches | 16:49 |
| FiReSTaRT | well, without additional hitches in comparison to ubuntu | 16:52 |
| FiReSTaRT | a ubuntu update broke something on that machine, so i ended up just trying mint.. since it's basically running xbmc all the time, i haven't really given their g2.x spin much of a shot | 16:53 |
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