| c_smith | hiya | 00:23 |
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| c_smith | heya, MarkDude! :D | 00:28 |
| MarkDude | hey there c_smith | 00:29 |
| c_smith | hey, quick question: I've been reading up on UEFI, and it seems JVLB is going about it with a GUI tool, and all I've seen is people using the command line to install grub, do you think that might help his case with his friend and UEFI? | 00:30 |
| c_smith | I've also read somewhere something about compiling a patched GRUB2.... | 00:31 |
| * MarkDude does not know those answers | 00:33 | |
| MarkDude | Waiting for it sort out | 00:33 |
| c_smith | ah, ok | 00:33 |
| c_smith | looks like JVLB might not have looked at the Wiki page for installing GRUB2 on UEFI. | 00:34 |
| tgm4883 | bkerensa, you know you posted that MS guy's email to public right? | 02:04 |
| c_smith | bkerensa isn't here atm..... he's afk I'd guess. | 02:29 |
| MarkDude | c_smith, maybe I can use this time to tease him, since he cant respond | 03:00 |
| MarkDude | :D | 03:00 |
| MarkDude | Someone wanted to ask about teaching a FOSS class? | 03:22 |
| MarkDude | What specifically? :) | 03:22 |
| Becka | Hey, I was over on the Ubuntu beginngers caht and they sent me here. I am a professor at Western Oregon University, teaching a FOSS class next term, looking for people to provide mentorship for my students | 03:29 |
| tgm4883 | Becka, awesome, I graduated from WOU | 03:32 |
| Becka | When did you graduate? | 03:33 |
| tgm4883 | 2008 | 03:33 |
| Becka | Me too | 03:33 |
| Becka | Got my masters and working on my PhD | 03:34 |
| Becka | This course is my dissertation research | 03:34 |
| tgm4883 | sweet | 03:34 |
| tgm4883 | sounds like a lot of work | 03:34 |
| Becka | Love it | 03:34 |
| Becka | The teaching part | 03:35 |
| Becka | The student part is getting a bit old | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | yea I know that feeling | 03:35 |
| Becka | Were you in Wolfbot senior project? | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | No, I wasn't a programmer | 03:35 |
| tgm4883 | I was IS | 03:35 |
| Becka | I would guess we had some classes together | 03:36 |
| tgm4883 | probably did | 03:36 |
| tgm4883 | so what is the class on? | 03:36 |
| Becka | I am working on getting my students engaged in an OSS project. I want to use mentorship as a bridge into the community | 03:37 |
| tgm4883 | any specific project in general? | 03:37 |
| Becka | I hope to promote engagement of students from groups that are currently under represented in OSS | 03:38 |
| Becka | Ubuntu | 03:38 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 03:38 |
| tgm4883 | Well Ubuntu is a large project. Is this going to be a class of programmers? | 03:38 |
| Becka | Yes, CS260 is a prereq | 03:38 |
| tgm4883 | ah ok | 03:38 |
| tgm4883 | Do they still only learn Java? | 03:39 |
| Becka | Java is first language | 03:39 |
| Becka | Many take Broeg's C++ | 03:40 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 03:40 |
| tgm4883 | Do they get any VCS training? | 03:40 |
| Becka | Mostly I want to get the in the door and comfortable | 03:40 |
| Becka | No, | 03:40 |
| Becka | There will definitely be a steep learning curve | 03:41 |
| tgm4883 | Bummer. Out of everyone I've talked to that is the one thing that is almost never touched in college | 03:41 |
| tgm4883 | and everyone agrees there should be a class on it | 03:41 |
| Becka | I am not asking for them to commit, more to engage | 03:41 |
| Becka | I agree | 03:41 |
| Becka | As soo as I finish my dissertation I hope to add some things to our cirriculum | 03:42 |
| tgm4883 | I've envisioned a FOSS class before for programmers, where students would find projects they are interested in (or perhaps a predefined list) and they could contribute by writing code, documentation, bug triage/fixing, etc | 03:43 |
| tgm4883 | is that the type of thing you're looking at for this? | 03:43 |
| Becka | It is very difficult to have them choose a project. The list is too vast | 03:44 |
| Becka | I am hoping to get them into Ubuntu because it offers a lot of avenues to go | 03:44 |
| Becka | Being able to provide them with mentors would help them figure out the basics | 03:45 |
| Becka | It is my intent to create people that continue to participate after the class ends | 03:45 |
| tgm4883 | so is this going to be similar to GSoC then? | 03:45 |
| Becka | Yes | 03:46 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 03:46 |
| tgm4883 | so you want to get them involved in Ubuntu development, all parts of it I suppose? | 03:46 |
| Becka | As I only have them for 10 weeks I want them to work on the easy bug fixes. I think that will give them a sense of belonging that will help them continue on to harder stuff | 03:48 |
| tgm4883 | Becka, ok, let me check if the paper cuts project is still going on. There was a session for it this week | 03:49 |
| Becka | I will start by having them install all of the tools they need so that they can hit the ground running | 03:49 |
| Becka | Cool | 03:49 |
| tgm4883 | you're going to want to give them a crash course in launchpad as well | 03:49 |
| tgm4883 | since they will have to interact with that a bunch | 03:49 |
| Becka | Yes I have two weeks to get them up and running | 03:50 |
| Becka | The good news is that they will all be encouraged to work together to figure things out | 03:50 |
| tgm4883 | bdmurray might be able to help point you in the right direction for bug work | 03:50 |
| Becka | cool, I will try to contact him | 03:51 |
| tgm4883 | Becka, you might want to ping him next week. It's getting late here and he'll likely be unavailable until Sunday/Monday | 03:52 |
| Becka | not a problem | 03:53 |
| Becka | I was talking to phillip on the Ubuntu-beginners chanel and he also reccomended I speak with bkrensa | 03:54 |
| tgm4883 | yep looks like papercuts is still around https://blueprints.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+spec/other-design-p-papercuts-future | 03:55 |
| Oregonian | Title: The future of the Papercuts project : Blueprints : One Hundred Paper Cuts (at blueprints.launchpad.net) | 03:55 |
| tgm4883 | when is the class from/to? | 03:55 |
| Becka | Jan - end of march. forget exact dates | 03:56 |
| Becka | I will check out paper couts | 03:56 |
| Becka | thank you | 03:56 |
| tgm4883 | ok, that will get them to beta 2 tehn | 03:57 |
| tgm4883 | final freeze is April 12th | 03:57 |
| Becka | Thank you so much for your help. My daughter just came home from college for the weekend so I am going to go hang. I am sure I will catch up with you here again :-) | 03:59 |
| tgm4883 | yw | 03:59 |
| bkerensa | =o | 08:48 |
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| bkerensa | tgm4883: Any idea what package handles system wide proxy settings in Ubuntu 11.10 | 20:10 |
| c_smith | hiya. | 20:25 |
| c_smith | bkerensa, any luck with the Library? | 20:25 |
| bkerensa | Haven't had a chance to contact them yet its on my list for this week | 20:25 |
| c_smith | ah, cool | 20:26 |
| c_smith | heh, you might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzpi8zoyG54 | 20:26 |
| Oregonian | Title: Secret message from the Demon Hunter - Warcraft III - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) | 20:26 |
| c_smith | bah, didn't see that last part coming. | 20:26 |
| bkerensa | cool | 20:27 |
| bkerensa | :D | 20:27 |
| c_smith | Warcraft 3 is a good game, personally prefer Warcraft 2, though, that one brings back memories. | 20:27 |
| c_smith | but I'm pretty sure the whole Night Elf language is like that. | 20:28 |
| c_smith | Blizzard was either short on time, or just witty about it to do that. | 20:28 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 20:38 |
| * bkerensa is playing Battlefield 3 | 20:38 | |
| bkerensa | and next Monday I will have Modern Warfare 3 | 20:38 |
| * bkerensa interviewed the Lead Developer of Modern Warefare 3 on Friday | 20:39 | |
| c_smith | awesome | 20:39 |
| c_smith | bkerensa, it's sad that the servers for the respective consoles for CoD don't connect with each other. thinking about getting the WIi version. | 22:39 |
| c_smith | already have Black Ops and MW1 for that system. | 22:39 |
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