[05:27] <PURpleLIps> hi 
[05:32] <Kilos> morning all
[05:33] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[05:33]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[05:36] <superfly> hi Kilos
[05:36] <superfly> what time is it there?
[05:37] <Kilos> hgiya the fly
[05:37] <Kilos> eish
[05:37] <Kilos> 0737
[05:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:37] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[05:38] <superfly> evening Kilos
[05:38] <Kilos> as long as you are enjoying yourself and having a good break all is good
[05:38] <Kilos> lol
[05:39] <superfly> ja
[05:40] <Kilos> what does zac think of the peeps that talk funny english
[05:41] <superfly> he doesn't seem to notice it at the moment
[05:42] <Kilos> lol
[05:43] <Kilos> its kinda weird hey , i'm sitting here today and talking to you yesterday
[05:43] <superfly> hehe
[05:43] <Kilos> oh yes the aus peeps are allowing me entry now its back to here again
[05:44] <superfly> oh yay!!!!
[05:44] <Kilos> yeah we are extatic
[05:44] <superfly> congratulations oom Kilos!!
[05:44] <Kilos> ty my friend
[05:51] <Kilos> lo highvoltage 
[05:52] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[05:52] <Kilos> hehe
[05:57] <Kilos> hiya sdehaan 
[05:59] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Kilos, superfly 
[05:59] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[05:59] <superfly> hi nuvolari
[06:06] <superfly> nuvolari: did i tell you about my netbook?
[06:21] <superfly> goodnight oom Kilos
[06:21] <Kilos> sleep tight superfly 
[11:33] <Guest2646> hi ladies
[11:51] <Kilos> eish
[11:51] <Kilos> fool
[11:52] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos 
[11:52] <Kilos> hey nlsthzn these chatmosphere fools think this is a bordello
[11:53] <Kilos> we need to tell chanserv to block chatmosphere
[11:57] <nlsthzn> :)
[12:25] <nuvolari> superfly: hmm, I think you did, but refresh me on the details please :P
[12:25] <nuvolari> o/ lo oom Kilos 
[12:26] <nuvolari> o wag, ek het al hallo gesê :P
[12:26] <nuvolari> hier gaan net vandag niks aan nie
[12:26] <Kilos> lol
[12:26] <nuvolari> Ek't bietjie gaan kiekies neem
[12:27] <Kilos> jy moet vinnig praat met die vlieg seun hy is amoer 9 hure agter ons
[12:27] <Kilos> meer
[12:27] <Kilos> f amper
[12:27] <nuvolari> #fail
[12:28] <nuvolari> oom kilos, ek sal vir kersfees vir oom 'n woordeboek koop :P
[12:28] <Kilos> hehe
[12:28] <Kilos> voesek
[12:28] <nuvolari> woed!
[12:28] <nuvolari> er
[12:28] <nuvolari> woef!
[12:28] <nuvolari> ek kort self een
[12:28] <Kilos> hehe
[12:29] <Kilos> die vlieg het gaan slaap net na hy jou gevra het van die netboek
[12:29] <Kilos> was half een in die oggend daar
[12:30] <Kilos> so as hy hier is moet jy praat so vinnig as wat jy kan
[12:31] <nuvolari> hmm. ek lik nie baie van gesukkel met tyd nie :P
[12:32] <Kilos> lol
[12:32] <nuvolari> sal maar net hier vir hom boodskappe los
[12:32] <Kilos> los dit by maaz
[12:33] <Kilos> nuvolari, het jy die address van voda se CEO
[12:33] <Kilos> jy kan hom ook mail en se jy nie gelukkig nie
[12:34] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints
[12:34] <Maaz> ECLO.Tswai@vodacom.co.za
[12:34] <nuvolari> Kilos: heh, hulle spring vinnig genoeg as 'n mens op twitter kla
[12:34] <Kilos> dis die groot baas se hulp span
[12:34] <nuvolari> maar ek like net ine dat hulle jou onmenslike ure op 'n sondag probeer bel nie
[12:35] <Kilos> ja dis dom
[12:35] <Kilos> ek gaan bietjie rus. sal later of vanaand terug kom
[12:35] <Kilos> soet wees
[12:37] <nuvolari> ok maak so oom
[12:38] <nuvolari> lekker rus!
[12:38] <Kilos> dankie
[17:07] <nuvolari> Guest51746: sukkel jy? :P
[17:20] <nlsthzn> lol
[17:22] <nuvolari> lo nlsthzn 
[17:24] <nlsthzn> hi nuvolari :)
[18:23] <inetpro> Guest51746 / ludo: having network problems?
[18:29] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[18:30] <inetpro> nuvolari: wat wil jy met daai blank keyboard maak?
[18:32] <nlsthzn> hi inetpro 
[18:32] <inetpro> heh nlsthzn, how goes it?
[18:34] <nlsthzn> Oh no complaints... keeping busy (and myself confused with trying to get a Wordpress site up and running :p)
[18:43] <inetpro> nlsthzn: why confused?
[18:45] <nlsthzn> inetpro, :) I decided to set up a server and do the blog the hard way... so far I have set up Ubuntu server on my laptop in VBox and gotten it to the point that I have Wordpress running... got myself a domain today too and now I am stumped about how to make everythign talk to each other etc... 
[18:46] <nlsthzn> I be a noob
[18:47] <inetpro> nlsthzn: hmm... what kind of connectivity do you have? 
[18:47] <inetpro> nlsthzn: dynamic or static address?
[18:48] <nlsthzn> dynamic (and worst than that my "server" connects to the net via my Windows machine that is using Internet Connection Sharing (I suspect with this set up I won't be able to make it work :p)...
[18:48] <inetpro> eish!
[18:49] <nlsthzn> I have looked at dynDNS...
[18:49] <nlsthzn> but that just causes more confusion :p
[18:50] <inetpro> should be possible though I would never suggest you do it this way
[18:50] <inetpro> nlsthzn: rather get some VPS solution out there
[18:50] <Kilos> hi there all of ya
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: wb
[18:50] <Kilos> ty inetpro het lank gerus
[18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: and no I did not get wet yesterday
[18:51] <Kilos> lucky hey
[18:51] <nlsthzn> I suspect that is the next step inetpro (bodhizazen has mentioned he will hook me up on his server)... seems that will be the way to go :)
[18:51] <Kilos> was it close
[18:51] <Kilos> hi milamber-2018|36 
[18:51] <Kilos> you new here
[18:51] <inetpro> nlsthzn: if you just want to test then I suggest forgetting about the online DNS thing
[18:51] <inetpro> just test locally
[18:52] <nlsthzn> locally it works
[18:52] <nlsthzn> I want to get the blog "live" now :)
[18:52] <inetpro> put your intended hostname in the hosts file on your windows box
[18:52] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos: I had to leave early due to some function at school
[18:53] <Kilos> eish nlsthzn slumming
[18:53] <nlsthzn> Kilos, ?
[18:53] <Kilos> wow you were lucky hey inetpro 
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos: yep
[18:53] <Kilos> windows box nlsthzn 
[18:54] <nlsthzn> Windows = GAMES
[18:54] <Kilos> well you never let anyone know inetpro so i  didnt know you had left
[18:54] <Kilos> lol @ nlsthzn 
[18:54] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry
[18:54] <Kilos> its okinill get you back
[18:55] <Kilos> eish
[18:55]  * inetpro lol
[18:55] <Kilos> its ok inetpro ill get you back
[18:55] <Kilos> hehe
[18:55] <Kilos> typos galore
[18:55] <Kilos> has anyone chatted to milamber-2018|36 
[18:56] <Kilos> or is he just a lurker
[18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: who's that?
[18:56] <Kilos> milamber-2018|36, do you need linux/ubuntu help
[18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: some stardrifter?
[18:56] <Kilos> dont you see him inetpro 
[18:57] <Kilos> quassel sucks if you cant see milamber-2018|36 
[18:57] <Kilos> and Guest51746 
[18:57] <Kilos> hiya Guest51746 
[18:57] <Kilos> inetpro, whats up you normally gone till sunday evening
[18:57] <inetpro> Kilos: I noticed now that you mentioned it
[18:58] <Kilos> ya ya
[18:58] <Kilos> and all day everyday there are peeps from chatmosphere
[18:58] <Kilos> one came on today and said hi ladies
[18:59] <Kilos> ek het gou gecheck, maar nee, ek is nog steeds n man
[19:00] <inetpro> Kilos: big brother is watching you?
[19:01] <Kilos> hee hee
[19:01]  * inetpro wonders when superfly will wake up
[19:01] <Kilos> he is nearly 9 hours behind us
[19:02] <Kilos> and he says they keeping him busy there all day so comes on near to his midnight
[19:04] <zeref> hmmm, hi guys
[19:05] <Kilos> hi there zeref 
[19:05] <Kilos> you well??
[19:05] <zeref> ummm, does anybody know where the java DB is located?
[19:05] <Kilos> in ubuntu?
[19:05] <zeref> hi Kilos: i'm okay, cant complain, u?
[19:05] <zeref> yeah
[19:05] <Kilos> good ty zeref 
[19:05] <Kilos> search 
[19:06] <Kilos> places search
[19:06] <Kilos> look in flesystem
[19:06] <Kilos> grr
[19:06] <Kilos> filesystem
[19:06] <inetpro> zeref: java db?
[19:07] <zeref> java database
[19:07] <Kilos> theres a sh1thouse of java stuff in the search
[19:07] <zeref> cant find the installation directory
[19:07] <inetpro> zeref: what java db?
[19:07] <Kilos> you might understand which are which
[19:07] <inetpro> zeref: what package did you install?
[19:08] <zeref> sun-jdk
[19:08] <Kilos> /usr/lib/ somewhere
[19:09] <Kilos> /usr/lib/jvm/
[19:09] <inetpro> zeref: to see all the files that were installed as part of a package do 'dpkg -L PACKAGE-NAME'
[19:12] <inetpro> then again sun-jdk may not be an average Ubuntu package
[19:12] <Kilos> i had to install sun-jdk
[19:13] <inetpro> zeref: what are you trying to achive with a java db?
[19:13] <Kilos> nuvolari, this is your field
[19:13]  * inetpro does not even have sun-jdk in the repositories
[19:14] <inetpro> have openjdk-6-jre installed
[19:14] <zeref> same here
[19:14] <zeref> trying o get a POS application working working
[19:15] <Kilos> sun-javadb-common  in synaptic
[19:16] <Kilos> and sun-javadb-core
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: which ubuntu you have there again?
[19:17] <Kilos> oh ya
[19:17] <Kilos> maverick
[19:17] <inetpro> hmm... I also have Maverick
[19:17] <Kilos> have they dropped sun in ocelot
[19:17] <Kilos> maverick is lekker
[19:17] <Kilos> unity gonna have to be good to beat it
[19:18] <inetpro> ahh, I also see the sun-javadb-common now
[19:19] <inetpro> that may just be what zeref is after
[19:20] <zeref> hmmmmm
[19:20] <inetpro> or sun-javadb-client
[19:20] <Kilos> ya i would go sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[19:20] <Kilos> one of them gets all the dependancies
[19:21] <inetpro> Kilos: that one is missing on mine
[19:21] <inetpro> IIRC they did remove some oracle stuff from the repositories
[19:22] <nlsthzn> I struggled to get sun java installed a little while ago... so I went for openJDK
[19:24] <Kilos> zeref, do you use aptitude
[19:25] <zeref> hmmm progress
[19:25] <zeref> /usr/lib/jvm
[19:25] <zeref> now to get the right one
[19:25] <zeref> Kilos: no
[19:26] <Kilos> inetpro, tell him why you prefer aptitude
[19:26] <Kilos> its like apt-get but inetpro and superfly use aptitude for some reason
[19:27] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[19:27]  * inetpro trying to understand the context
[19:27] <Kilos> lol
[19:27] <Kilos> what context inetpro 
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: did he talk about apt-get?
[19:28] <Kilos> who?
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry, I'm slow tonight, youn said I must tell him. Who is him?
[19:29] <Kilos> tell zeref why you guys use aptitude rahter than apt-get
[19:29] <Kilos> rather
[19:30] <inetpro> Kilos: but he never mentioned apt-get
[19:30] <Kilos> ya but i told him to install java six with aptitude
[19:31] <Kilos> then remembered some of the newer guys havent got into the habit of using aptitude
[19:31] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh, but it seems he found what he was looking for
[19:31] <Kilos> remember you and the fly told me to use aptitude
[19:32] <inetpro> Kilos: well it's not a law
[19:32] <Kilos> i am passing along your advice
[19:32] <inetpro> it's just a preference :-)
[19:32] <Kilos> yeah but you must have a reason for using aptitude rather than apt-get
[19:33] <Kilos> i like aptitude
[19:33] <Kilos> it cleans up stuff that not needed too
[19:33] <Kilos> of is ek dom weer
[19:34]  * inetpro prefers aptitude because it has more features and is simpler to use for just about all package management issues
[19:34] <Kilos> ty
[19:34] <Kilos> and it has a reinstall thats not as easy with apt-get
[19:37] <Kilos> inetpro, have you got maverick server
[19:37] <inetpro> Kilos: maverick server?
[19:37] <Kilos> server edition
[19:37] <Kilos> on cd?
[19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: no, I tend to only use the LTS releases for servers
[19:38] <Kilos> would like to try set up a P3 with server
[19:38] <Kilos> ah
[19:39]  * inetpro has the server ISO of the latest LTS release at the office
[19:39] <Kilos> thats not fussy about graphics cards hey?
[19:39] <inetpro> Kilos: no graphics at all
[19:39] <Kilos> oh i was looking for maveric cause i have lots of archives
[19:40] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:40] <Kilos> maybe someone has maverick server edition
[19:40] <Kilos> i deleted all my lucid archives like a fool
[19:41] <Kilos> because maverick was better for me than lucid
[19:42] <Kilos> your rsync of archives has kept me online
[19:43] <Kilos> rsync every time i download anything
[19:45] <Kilos> i even remember the whole command without having to go look in saved commands file
[19:46] <Kilos> zeref, are you winning?
[19:50] <zeref> meh
[19:50] <zeref> i'll use a mysql connector for the database
[19:50] <Kilos> wassup?
[19:51] <zeref> cant find it, still get "incorrect java DB installation directory
[19:51] <Kilos> cant find what zeref 
[19:52] <Kilos> oh you in ocelot?
[19:53] <zeref> 10.04
[19:54] <zeref> i'm over it
[19:54] <zeref> i'm doing it with mysql
[19:54] <Kilos> then you must have all the sun stuff in synaptic package manager
[19:55] <Kilos> just type in sun-java in the little top search block
[19:56] <inetpro> zeref: are you perhaps trying to create a db with Libreoffice or OpneOffice.org?
[19:59] <Kilos> i say night guys. sleep tight. hope you win zeref 
[19:59] <Kilos> moenie heel nag wakker bly nie inetpro 
[20:00] <zeref> inetpro: nope
[20:01] <zeref> tryig to get floreantPOS working
[20:01] <inetpro> ahh
[20:01]  * inetpro never heard of floreantPOS before today
[20:02] <inetpro> and just found http://floreantpos.com/
[20:04] <inetpro> looks quite interesting as well
[20:05] <zeref> it is, have to add some stuff to the source code
[20:06] <zeref> for a new restuarant thats opening  soon
[20:07] <zeref> /usr/share/javadb
[20:08] <zeref> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[20:16] <inetpro> zeref: what town?
[20:19] <zeref> hurrrr, java DB working xD
[20:20] <zeref> think alberton
[21:02] <inetpro> zeref: what version of floreantPOS did you get?
[21:03]  * inetpro quickly tried 1.0_3 R and didn't have any big issues
[21:05] <inetpro> and that without installing sun-javadb-common or sun-javadb-client
[21:20] <inetpro> dLimit: wb
[21:51] <zeref> inetpro: 1.0_3
[21:52] <zeref> its working now, just need to add some stuff
[21:53] <zeref> the prob was viewing and changing source in netbeans