[00:00] <brightspark> pooltable: see package cups-pdf
[00:01] <cyphase> the teminal is awesome. i split a multi-gb file earlier, and am now combining it and sending the result to two different drives
[00:01] <cyphase> with cat and tee
[00:02] <bekks> would be much more nice if just dumping the output to stdout and piping it to different targets.
[00:02] <BlouBlou> and, second question; is it recommendable having my country's server as default (for updates, ...), or should I use the main one?
[00:02] <bekks> BlouBlou: the next server (geopgraphically) is ok.
[00:02] <Gentoo64> BlouBlou: use a local one
[00:03] <BlouBlou> bekks, Gentoo64: Okay
[00:03] <kg> How do I enlarge the xchat window?
[00:03] <JViz> splnet: it looks like bitbake itself doesn't have the gcc-3 dependency, just this particular build i'm looking at
[00:03] <Gentoo64> kg: same as usual...
[00:04] <splnet> JViz: C or c++? if its C, its probably easy to fix the code
[00:05] <Glitchy> anyone out here know much about setting up a vm on ubuntu 11?
[00:05] <Gentoo64> Glitchy: virtualbox?
[00:06] <pooltable> i have it installed it where does the file go ?
[00:06] <Glitchy> yeah virtual machine/virtual box. never messed with them before, was advised to learn, but the tuts online are just confusing me...
[00:06] <Gentoo64> Glitchy: its very easy. just ask as you go
[00:07] <Glitchy> What will I need to get started?
[00:07] <Gentoo64> virtualbox
[00:07] <Gentoo64> and some hdd space
[00:07] <Glitchy> I was going to use vmserver, but passed on that
[00:07] <Gentoo64> i would use virtualbox
[00:07] <Glitchy> alright bb in a secf
[00:08] <akm22562> hi all. i just upgraded to 11.10. when my screensaver kicks in i can wake it up but screen stays blank. can anybody offer any tips?
[00:09] <Glitchy> Gentoo64 is virtualbox ose what I should use?
[00:09] <Gentoo64> Glitchy: whats the other one? (if there is one)
[00:09] <pooltable> save a url to pdf format
[00:09] <Glitchy> akm22562 try messing with the power save options and screen saver options
[00:09] <Glitchy> no other option via ubuntu software manager
[00:09] <Gentoo64> ok use ose then
[00:10] <brightspark> pooltable: on my machine it is in ~/PDF
[00:10] <Gentoo64> im not sure if youll manually need to install things like the guest additions, or extension pack
[00:10] <Glitchy> Will I need a copy of XP on disc?
[00:10] <Gentoo64> Glitchy: or an iso
[00:10] <Gentoo64> isos are better (faster)
[00:10] <zykotick9> Glitchy, what version of ubuntu are you using?  VBox-OSE doesn't have USB support.  The new free Virtualbox does.
[00:10] <Glitchy> k, that's something I may struggle with, because I need to slipstream the iso in order to add the laptop drivers
[00:11] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: you can download the extensions from the website cant you
[00:11] <pooltable> brightspark ok what do i need to do ?
[00:11] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, i don't know?  Certainly VBox will download them for you.
[00:11] <splnet> Glitchy: you can also download vmplayer for free
[00:12] <Gentoo64> zykotick9: i mean for the ose version
[00:12] <JViz> splnet: i don't know, i'm going to try to figure out
[00:12] <zykotick9> Gentoo64, not sure man
[00:12] <zykotick9> splnet, why recommend proprietary software?
[00:13] <Glitchy> create new hard disk or use existing one?
[00:13] <Gentoo64> Glitchy: create new
[00:13] <Glitchy> dynamic or fixed
[00:13] <Gentoo64> Glitchy: up to you
[00:13] <Glitchy> storage lol
[00:13] <Gentoo64> i make mine fixed
[00:13] <Glitchy> right on
[00:13] <Gentoo64> its faster than dynamically expanding
[00:14] <splnet> zykotick9: because I found vmplayer to work well. Plus its free
[00:14] <brightspark> pooltable: don't know, I installed it a while back.  I would open my home folder and look to see a folder called pdf, if it isnt there I can't help
[00:14] <Andrewx> Hello, I got the GUI for upgrading my ubuntu install to 11.10 and I accidently cancelled it, how do i resume the upgrade of 11.04 to 11.10?
[00:14] <brightspark> JViz: http://debian.speedblue.org/packages/gcc-3.4-x86-64_3.4.6-1_i386.deb
[00:14] <zykotick9> Glitchy, the downsize is that fixed allocates all the space to begin with.
[00:14] <Glitchy> I've done this once before, but it always stalls out at creating the fixed storage device
[00:14] <Gentoo64> hmm should be ok...
[00:15] <Gentoo64> check in the main settings windows under preferences if theres anything under extensions also
[00:15] <Glitchy> how long should it take to create the storage medium?
[00:15] <Gentoo64> to see if it comes with them preinstalled
[00:15] <Gentoo64> Glitchy: takes me about 1-2 mins for 15gb
[00:15] <Glitchy> k it's still sitting at 0%
[00:15] <Andrewx> [20:14] <Andrewx> Hello, I got the GUI for upgrading my ubuntu install to 11.10 and I accidently cancelled it, how do i resume the upgrade of 11.04 to 11.10?
[00:15] <Gentoo64> it depends on the drive speed
[00:16] <zykotick9> splnet, it may be "free" as in cost, but it's certainly not free as in freedom.  VBox as well as KVM/libvirt have some technical advantages over VMWare as well.
[00:16] <cousteau> "Print to PDF file" isn't working on gedit (ubuntu 10.10, installed from ubuntu minimal). No error message; the pdf file just doesn't get generated.
[00:16] <pooltable> brightspark ok  got it thanks been at this for hours to get to work for free thanks
[00:16] <cousteau> it works on other programs such as geany, though
[00:16] <Glitchy> what is KVM?
[00:16] <brightspark> pooltable: glad to hear it
[00:16] <Andrewx> Does anyone know about upgrading Ubuntu?
[00:17] <Glitchy> what about it?
[00:17] <brightspark> When I try to use totem to play youtube videos, I get an error message "Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error."  I have never been able to use this feature, so I don't suspect a recent update as the cause.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:17] <Andrewx> I cancelled in the middle of an upgrade via GUI.
[00:17] <zykotick9> Glitchy, KVM is more for servers then desktop VMs (i wouldn't recommend it for your use)
[00:17] <Andrewx> I need to resue the GUI upgrade.
[00:17] <Glitchy> right on
[00:17] <Andrewx> How can I do so>
[00:17] <Andrewx> ?
[00:17] <Glitchy> ...Gentoo64...should it still be sitting at 0%?
[00:18] <cousteau> it works on evince too... but not on gedit. Why could this be happening?
[00:20] <Glitchy> zykotick9 can you help me any? I think VirtualBox OSE stalls out on me during storage medium creation...can you help me?
[00:21] <zykotick9> Glitchy, you could try asking in the #vbox channel perhaps?  good luck.
[00:22] <pooltable> need help on picking out grafix card under $300 it 2 betterer then one?
[00:22] <Glitchy> over there...no one's responding...I'll try elsewhere, wish Gentoo64 would come back from afk...
[00:24] <seven> hi, I'm having connection issues on 10.04.
[00:24] <bekks> seven: define "connection issues" please
[00:24] <bekks> !explain seven
[00:26] <cyphase> hmm, nautilus doesn't warn you when moving a file bigger than 4GB to a fat32 partition
[00:26] <bekks> cyphase: Why should it?
[00:26] <seven> I checked "enable networking" and it says "wired network - disconnected." there is no option to connect to any network connections.
[00:26] <seven> I'm kind of new to this, sorry.
[00:27] <cyphase> bekks, because fat32 can only have files up to 4GB
[00:28] <bekks> cyphase: I know, yes.
[00:28] <An-iSociaL> fat32 goes to 32gb
[00:28] <cyphase> bekks, i dont get it
[00:28] <bekks> cyphase: I still dont see the point why your file manage should warn you about whatever.
[00:28] <cousteau> An-iSociaL, never saw that... using some sort of PAE or something?
[00:29] <lambo_man_r2> can someone please help me?
[00:29] <cyphase> bekks, seems fairly obvious to me
[00:29] <philwong> Hello
[00:29] <An-iSociaL> which are we talking about
[00:29] <bekks> cyphase: I dont think so.
[00:29] <An-iSociaL> the file size cant exceed 3gb
[00:29] <An-iSociaL> the filesystem cant exceed 32gb
[00:29] <philwong> Mint is a prettier version of Ubuntu
[00:29] <cyphase> bekks, it gave me an error once i reached 4GB copies
[00:29] <bekks> cyphase: Yes.
[00:30] <philwong> do they have a seperate support channel?
[00:30] <bekks> philwong: yes.
[00:30] <pangolin> !mintsupport
[00:30] <An-iSociaL> yea im going to shutup
[00:30] <cyphase> bekks, so why not just corrupt the fs? it shouldnt baby people, right?
[00:30] <philwong> whats it callde
[00:30] <cyphase> lol
[00:30] <bekks> cyphase: because the fs wont corrupt.
[00:30] <philwong> bekks:
[00:30] <pangolin> philwong:  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[00:30] <philwong> thanks
[00:31] <lambo_man_r2> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME?
[00:31] <pangolin> !ask
[00:31] <okee> This is not a channel for catharsis.
[00:31] <chaospsychex> msg nickserv identify jagger
[00:31] <okee> :0
[00:32] <pangolin> chaospsychex: you will want to chnge your password :)
[00:32] <pangolin> change*
[00:32] <cyphase> bekks, can you give me a reason why it should not warn before starting to copy, instead of when it reaches 4GB?
[00:32] <chaospsychex> lol
[00:32] <lambo_man_r2> whats the diff tween 11.04 amd 11.10?
[00:32] <An-iSociaL> uhm
[00:32] <cousteau> about 0.06
[00:32] <An-iSociaL> software updates?
[00:32] <zykotick9> cyphase, nautilus is probably not aware you're using a crappy filesystem (why should it)
[00:32] <bekks> cyphase: Yes. Because those kinds of limitations are not part of the responsibility of your user-space user-driven file manager, but these are limitations of a filesystem.
[00:32] <cousteau> oh, and 11.10 uses unity under gnome3
[00:32] <lambo_man_r2> actually
[00:33] <An-iSociaL> you should find a changelog
[00:33] <okee> I am experiencing difficulty in booting from a DVDRW that has Ubuntu.  I did an md5 checksum and it comes back ok.  I get error indicating that ata4, ata5, ata6 SATA link down.  What does that mean?  Is there a way to boot from the internet and download ubuntu that way?  I have the disk in the laptop now.
[00:33] <An-iSociaL> its not going to be a simple answer
[00:33] <cyphase> zykotick9, first, i must defend my honor. this is not my flashdrive :)
[00:33] <brightspark> When I try to use totem to play youtube videos, I get an error message "Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error."  I have never been able to use this feature, so I don't suspect a recent update as the cause.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:33] <chaos_> anyone send me in the direction of disabling the avahi-daemon. i went through everything i know dealing with init and rc etc files
[00:33] <zykotick9> cyphase, honour restored ;)
[00:33] <lambo_man_r2> i vame here to get answers. not be redirected
[00:33] <chaospsychex> how do i set a new pass using nickserv?
[00:33] <okee> This channel is too busy.  We need an Ubuntu2 channel.
[00:34] <An-iSociaL> okee: what operating systems do you have access to?
[00:34] <bekks> chaospsychex: thats an issue for #freenode
[00:34] <cousteau> there's ubuntu+1 if that's what you're looking for
[00:34] <cyphase> zykotick9, second of all, why shouldn't it? it's a simple check. it checks if there's space on the drive. it could just not bother and give you an error when the drive is full
[00:34] <chaospsychex> can someone tell me why my transfer speeds from my ubuntu ftp server are so damn slow? less than 300kb/sec
[00:34] <cousteau> also there are other ubuntu locale channels
[00:34] <An-iSociaL> okee: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[00:34] <cousteau> chaospsychex, slow internet connection?
[00:34] <chaos_> or rewrite over "old" data would be cooler!!
[00:34] <An-iSociaL> if you can get onto a windows machine you can use that to make a bootable usb
[00:35] <okee> The computer that I am communicating from now has Win XP 32-bit.  The laptop that I am trying to install Ubuntu on has Win 7 64-bit.  The HP Elitebook 8360w was checked by a technician and the DVDRW player/writer works.
[00:35] <cyphase> zykotick9, and, if there's no space, it gives you the option to continue. so it doesn't have to take away your choice, if that's the issue
[00:35] <An-iSociaL> so use that utility to make a bootable usb
[00:35] <An-iSociaL> cds are so 2000
[00:35] <zykotick9> cyphase, you want to put checks in nautilus if it's using MS file systems, and if so to warn the user they're using a crappy FS?  Personally i user Nautilus for file management, not user management.
[00:35] <chaospsychex> cousteau: no, i am transferring over the local network. my speed should be megabytes per second, not kb/sec
[00:35] <cousteau> oh, local network... ok, it's slow then
[00:36] <chaospsychex> ?
[00:36] <chaos_> anyone send me in the direction of disabling the avahi-daemon. i went through everything i know dealing with init and rc etc files
[00:36] <chaospsychex> theres no reason for it to be this slow
[00:36] <chaospsychex> should be above 1MB/sec at al times
[00:37] <cyphase> zykotick9, so it should honor ext# file-size limitations?
[00:37] <bekks> cyphase: The check wont be wether there is enough space on the drive. the check would be like this "which fs are we copying to? are there limitations? will we get to those limitations? what to do now?"
[00:37] <chromaticwt> how can I do normal alt-tab behavior with the new unity desktop?
[00:37] <An-iSociaL> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/739-disabling-the-avahi-daemon
[00:37] <An-iSociaL> whoever asked
[00:37] <An-iSociaL> i lost tracking
[00:37] <cousteau> what does that daemon do? maybe I can kill it?
[00:38] <lambo_man_r2> did uou guys upgrade to 11.10?
[00:38] <chaospsychex> it's going to take a hour to download a 700mb file, i can download it off the internet faster than i can off my local network??
[00:38]  * cousteau is on 10.10
[00:38] <An-iSociaL> The Avahi daemon is present as default and allows you to discover network resources and get connected to them
[00:38] <cyphase> bekks, if fs == 'fat32' and filesize > 4*GB: print FAT32_WARNING
[00:38] <cyphase> bekks, abstractly :)
[00:38] <chaospsychex> this is baffling
[00:38] <bekks> cyphase: It is all OSS. Implement it.
[00:38] <cousteau> An-iSociaL, ok, so no use on a desktop? or ethernet also counts?
[00:39] <cyphase> bekks, that is not the issue. you said it should not be implemented
[00:39] <chaospsychex> how is it that i can download off the net faster than i can from a server on my local network ?
[00:39] <mateolargo> i'm (trying to) manage a PPA for our company and have hit a bit of a snag
[00:39] <An-iSociaL> discovering network resources means finding other devices on the network
[00:39] <okee> Question:   Will I loose everything on the USB Stick if i install an ISO?  Can it share a memory stick?  Ubuntu is only 32mb.  It is tiny.  I have a 32gb memory stick.
[00:39] <philwong> Whats a better all around OS in terms of fuctionality and suport Ubuntu or Linux Mint?
 whats ur network looking like?
[00:40] <bekks> cyphase: Yes. Because there are about - to my knowledge - about 30+ filesystems out there which devs would have to care about. about 20 of those are heavily changing or are implemented using FUSE.
[00:40] <An-iSociaL> you will lose everything because it will need to be formatted to be bootable okee
[00:40] <chaos_> ubuntu =  support
[00:40] <okee> I am wondering whether or not the DVDs are bad, or whether or not there is an issue with the laptop.  The repair technician things there is an issue with the DVDRWs.....
[00:40] <brightspark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/728652/
[00:40] <brightspark> When I try to use totem to play youtube videos, I get an error message "Gstreamer encountered a general supporting library error."  I have never been able to use this feature, so I don't suspect a recent update as the cause.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:40] <dorr> ubuntu server 11.10,  was mucking about with apache2, didnt really know what i was doing, things didnt turn out quite right, so i deleted /etc/apache2.  i thought i could remove apache and install again and it would create /etc/apache2 again , but it did not.  how can i get it back
[00:40] <philwong> chaos_: and os?
[00:40] <bekks> If you dare to hit fs limits, then dont owe it to your file manager.
[00:40] <chaospsychex> chaos_: looking like? i have a router/gateway. ftp server is on the router and so are the 3 clients
[00:40] <An-iSociaL> okee: likely you have an older drive which doesnt support the bootloader for some reason
[00:40] <chaospsychex> chaos_: only one client is connected to the ftp server
[00:40] <An-iSociaL> ive seen that happen with many different things over the years
[00:41] <cyphase> bekks, fat32 is not heavily changing or using fuse (not sure why fuse matters)
[00:41] <chaospsychex> chaos_: i should be getting way better transfer speeds than this
 have you listened to all the traffic to see if your dos'n yourself with a rougue procees or such
[00:41] <chaospsychex> what?
[00:41] <bekks> cyphase: We are not talking about a FAT32 only check. If implementing checks like these, you would have to implement them on all filesystems.
[00:41] <okee> Hmm.  It gives you the option to format.  What happens if I don't select the option to format?  I think I should transfer the contents of the DVD to the main drive, and the add the contents after ubuntu is burned on there.
[00:41] <An-iSociaL> chaospsychex: how fast are you transferring?
[00:42] <chaospsychex> less than 300kb/sec
[00:42] <An-iSociaL> it will likely fail to boot if you do not format okee
[00:42] <cyphase> bekks, what's wrong with that?
[00:42] <chaospsychex> An-iSocial: what could be limited the transfer speed?
[00:43] <An-iSociaL> what mediums are you transferring from and to chaospsychex ?
[00:43] <osvaldo> hola
[00:43] <bekks> cyphase: The intention. Implementing a check for a single filesystem is just work without a real profit.
[00:43] <An-iSociaL> hola osvaldo
[00:43] <beaconfield> Hello!
 distance matters too. i had a setup (wireless) where i was getting 30kbs and moved ten feet closer and got close to 1mb
[00:43] <osvaldo> que tal de donde sos
[00:43] <pangolin> !es
[00:43] <chaospsychex> An-iSocial: from a mounted ntfs partition on the ftp server, to a ext4 partition on the client
[00:43] <bekks> cyphase: But still. It is all OSS. You are free to implement it.
[00:43] <chaospsychex> i am 15ft away from the server
[00:44] <Reidy> Sorry to ask it again but, I got a little problem with my ubuntu 11.10, running on a lenovo ideapad U460 (and installed via netinstall). When I start the distro, it show me that : http://pastebin.com/aB1KQafs in a black background. I updated the system with the latest update and so, and I don't know how to correct it, I can access to the console mode, but nothing else.
 are you wireless?
[00:44] <chaospsychex> i get download speeds off the internet several MB/sec
[00:44] <dorr> ubuntu server 11.10,  was mucking about with apache2, didnt really know what i was doing, things didnt turn out quite right, so i deleted /etc/apache2.  i thought i could remove apache and install again and it would create /etc/apache2 again , but it did not.  how can i get it back?
[00:44] <chaospsychex> the server is wired to the router
[00:44] <okee> ok.  I will clear off the USB stick.  I suspect there is a compatibility issue with Fuji DVDRWs.  I did telephone them, and they requested that I send the disk back to them.  Ironically the disk seem to work with my Lighton drive, but they won't work with several other laptops.  The repair store told me they tested them on three different laptops besides mine.
[00:44] <cyphase> bekks, that's beside the point. what do you mean work without profit?
[00:44] <chaospsychex> the client is wirelessly, yes
[00:44] <chaospsychex> doesn't explain this slow transfer speed though
[00:44] <chaos_> is the client or server the one your on and complainging about?
[00:45] <cyphase> bekks, is your whole argument based on time spent by the developers to implement it?
[00:45] <An-iSociaL> sounds pretty common actually okee
[00:45] <chaospsychex> i'm complaining about the slooooooooow transfer speed and the fact that i can download files off the internet faster than this
[00:45] <chaos_> well wireless technology can have issues such as same freq as a neighbor much people using the same freq
[00:45] <chaospsychex> no thats not it
[00:46] <chaospsychex> i can download this same file over the internet in 10mins
[00:46] <chaos_> try changing the routers wireless channel to say 1,6 or 11
[00:46] <bekks> cyphase: There are a LOT of exception to a general behaviour of a file manager. Implementing checks without a "big picture" on how to handle those exceptions, requirements, exception with a workaround, will result in a pretty unmaintainable software solution.
[00:46] <cyphase> bekks, how is it different from checking for available space? do you support that check?
[00:47] <An-iSociaL> chaospsychex: it could be ftp slowing it down, if you can try another method, perhaps cifs, it may be faster, otherwise it could have to do with the network
[00:47] <An-iSociaL> gigabit networks i get 40MB/s
[00:47] <An-iSociaL> 100mbit i get like 10MB/s
[00:47] <LarsN> did the new Open source GMA 500 driver make it into 11.11?
[00:47] <An-iSociaL> there's also the processor consideration
[00:47] <chaospsychex> thats what i am saying
[00:47] <bekks> cyphase: the check is being done when trying to copy a file. you cannot assume to get the "true" result before copying, because there may be changes (file deletions) while copying.
[00:47] <zykotick9> cyphase, the merits of your argument are offtopic for this support channel.  bekks
[00:47] <An-iSociaL> check to see if either processor is pegged
[00:47] <bekks> zykotick9: ack.
[00:48] <chaospsychex> An-iSocial: how ?
 you obviously have a bottleneck on you network. if your runnnig samba improperly misconfigured it can do that. you should monitor the local traffic with say wireshark and see where all this traffic is comming from. i mean you could be hacked and acting in a botnet and not know it..
[00:48] <chaospsychex> ok i will install wireshark
[00:48] <okee> I see some potential problems with the USB installer.  The installer formats to 32-bit, and I am running a 64-bit program.
[00:48] <cyphase> bekks, sure. i have had that situation, which i'm sure is the reaosn nautilus gives you the option to copy anyway. but it lets you know
[00:48] <An-iSociaL> try the command "top" in a shell chaospsychex
[00:48] <cyphase> reason*
[00:49] <chaospsychex> An-iSocial: ok what am i looking for in the output of 'top'
[00:49] <cyphase> zykotick9, sorry, momentum kept me in here :)
[00:49] <An-iSociaL> Cpu(s) chaospsychex
[00:49] <chaos_> avahi-daemon ->die.forever ? please
[00:49] <An-iSociaL> the percentage
[00:50] <bekks> cyphase: Ok, not going to discuss this any further with you. EOD.
[00:50] <chaos_> suppose i will just dissemble Johny 5
[00:50] <chaospsychex> An-iSocial: should i be running that cmd on the server or the client ?
[00:51] <cyphase> bekks, alright. no hard feelings :)
[00:51] <An-iSociaL> i would check both chaospsychex
[00:51] <An-iSociaL> if either are pegged then it will cause an issue
[00:51] <chaos_> all this modern technology and no one knows what to do with it.. i love this game
[00:52] <chaospsychex> An-iSocial: cpu load on server is less than 15%, what do you mean 'pegged' ?
[00:52] <An-iSociaL> pegged >= 98%
[00:52] <chaos_> pegged = 100%
[00:52] <chaos_> haha
[00:52] <chaospsychex> nah it's not pegged, ftp server is using 7% of cpu
[00:53] <An-iSociaL> and the client?
[00:53] <philwong> can someone guide me to the linux mint room? I cannot find it anywhere
[00:53] <An-iSociaL> !mint
[00:53] <philwong> does not work
[00:53] <pangolin> philwong:  /server irc.spotchat.org
[00:53] <chaos_> philwong, your on the ubuntu server.. duh!
[00:53] <chaospsychex> vinagre is using 50% on the client? what is vinagre ?
[00:53] <philwong> pangolin: its in german
[00:54] <An-iSociaL> http://projects.gnome.org/vinagre/
[00:54] <cyphase> chaospsychex, remote desktop viewer
[00:54] <An-iSociaL> vnc client
[00:54] <philwong> spotchat is in german
[00:54] <pangolin> philwong: so? the channel users probably speak in English, did you join the channel?
[00:54] <chaospsychex> thats not it, i disconnected from the server and transfer speed is still slow
[00:55] <chaospsychex> could ssh be doing this?
[00:55] <chaospsychex> ssh server is running on both machines but no one is connected
[00:55] <philwong> pangolin: where do I log in from?
[00:55] <An-iSociaL> its likely its the transfer method
[00:55] <chaospsychex> what do you mean? because i am pulling the file from a mounted ntfs partition ?
[00:55] <pangolin> philwong:  /server irc.spotchat.org and once you are connected you type /join #linuxmint-help
[00:55] <LarsN> chaospsychex: how fast are the machines, on what kind of link, and how big are the files?
[00:56] <An-iSociaL> disk speeds seem fine, cpu is not pegged, the transfer medium is having issues decoding and recoding the file on either end of the transfer
[00:56] <pangolin> philwong: if you need more help with connecting to a server ask in #freenode
[00:56] <philwong> pangolin: ok
[00:56] <chaospsychex> the server is a p4 2gb ram using cat5e to the router
[00:56] <philwong> ok mate
[00:56] <chaospsychex> the client is a amd turion dual core 4gb ram wireless to router
[00:56] <LarsN> chaospsychex: and the client?
[00:56] <pnorman> chaospsychex: I've heard there a speed problems with large files and ntfs in ubuntu - not sure how reliable the reports are, since I don't ever use ntfs connected to my server
[00:56] <LarsN> chaospsychex: and how fast is the transfer going?
[00:57] <chaospsychex> LarsN: currently, 225kb/sec
[00:57] <An-iSociaL> 300kb/s
[00:57] <chaospsychex> 750mb file
[00:57] <An-iSociaL> only 750mb
[00:57] <An-iSociaL> hell i would use a usb stick
[00:57] <chaospsychex> been transfering for 30mins already
[00:57] <chaospsychex> 30mins left
[00:58] <chaospsychex> i need to figure this out, i have hundreds of files i need to transfer that are close to 1gb
[00:58] <An-iSociaL> i would choose a different transfer method
[00:58] <An-iSociaL> smb/cifs seems to still be the best
[00:58] <chaospsychex> i can't use a usb stick
[00:58] <LarsN> chaospsychex: for the sake of comparison, how fast does rsync copy from one machine to the next
[00:59] <chaospsychex> LarsN: rsync ?
[00:59] <LarsN> rsync -avz -e user@server:/path/to/files/ /path/to/where/you/want/them
[00:59] <LarsN> from the client.
[00:59] <chaospsychex> ok let me check....
[01:01] <philwong> mint is a very quiet room
[01:02] <okee> HP Elitebook 8360w will not boot from a USB 3.0 memory stick.  I did change the boot order in the bios, so I don't know what to think.
[01:02] <An-iSociaL> if there an F12 boot option?
[01:03] <Bomba> Hi ubuntu experts. I'm having a problem that i thought you might be able to help me with: I just loaded 11.1 onto my new computer, but it wont recognize my wired ethernet-type internet connection.
[01:03] <Bomba> Rather, it seems to recognize it but says 'wired network disconected: you are now offline'
[01:03] <Crisco> 11.1?
[01:03] <Crisco> oh 11.10
[01:03] <chaospsychex> LarsN: speedup is 51316.20 ??? what did that do? it listed files
[01:03] <cousteau> Crisco, that's 11.10 with the decimals trimmed
[01:03] <chaospsychex> LarsN: it was instant
[01:04] <philwong> a question.... why does ubuntu say it comes with anti-virus and windows does not
[01:04] <Bomba> any thoughts? Ive been trying at this for hours -_-
[01:04] <philwong> when windows viruses dont effect ubuntu
[01:04] <Crisco> cousteau: I figured that a moment after I typed that
[01:04] <chaospsychex> LarsN: want me to past output ?
[01:04] <LarsN> chaospsychex: rsync by default moves directories full of files.
[01:04] <chaospsychex> LarsN: it didn't move anything, just listed
[01:04] <cousteau> philwong, no idea... well, ubuntu (linux in general) doesn't need an antivirus
[01:04] <chromaticwt> anyone know how to get normal alt-tab behavior with ubuntu 11.10?
[01:04] <cousteau> unless you want to put a mail server or something like that
[01:04] <philwong> cousteau: why?
[01:04] <cousteau> or scan other partitions
[01:04] <philwong> when on the internet
[01:04] <LarsN> chaospsychex use a pastebin and sure.
[01:05] <chromaticwt> I want to make alt-tab switch between every window not just between apps.
[01:05] <zykotick9> !virus | philwong
[01:05] <An-iSociaL> okee: i was trying to find an actual answer for you laptop but i cannot find anything on "HP Elitebook 8360w"
[01:05] <An-iSociaL> asin, zero results for even the laptop itself
[01:06] <philwong> I see
[01:06] <Bomba> i read that enterering ivp6 (?) settings could help, but i cant figure out how to get the comp's IP address.
[01:06] <Bomba> for one thing
[01:07] <bandit5432> any one having issues with laptop lcd not blanking or blanking with the backlite still on?
[01:07] <LarsN> anyone know if this made it into 11.11? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTE0NQ
[01:07] <An-iSociaL> Bomba: are there additional drivers for your network card?
[01:07] <okee> hP support has gone to the dogs.  Ever sine Meg Whitman took control there is no support.  I tried logging into the chat area over a week ago, and received an error code indicating there was no support for my product.
[01:08] <An-iSociaL> im using lxde, from the preferences menu theres an option "Additional Drivers", within there they have drivers which require special care to be loaded as they are 3rd party
[01:08] <An-iSociaL> Bomba: ^
[01:08] <bandit5432> LarsN,  its 11.10 and that was added to the kernel tree in 2.6.39  so it should be in 11.10
[01:09] <Bomba> ok. sorry so dumb,but what is lxde?
[01:09] <An-iSociaL> okee: you sure its an 8360w?
[01:09] <philwong> Ubuntu 32-bit (reommended)
[01:09] <philwong> huh?
[01:09] <An-iSociaL> Bomba: just the desktop
[01:09] <philwong> Will it work on 64 bit machine
[01:09] <bandit5432> philwong, yes
[01:09] <tensorpudding> philwong, 32-bit works on 64-bit machines
[01:09] <philwong> ok
[01:09] <An-iSociaL> locate "Additional Drivers" in your start menu somewhere, Bomba
[01:09] <tensorpudding> it's just that 64-bit won't work on 32-bit machines
[01:10] <philwong> why in heavens name does it not suggest 64 bit
[01:10] <bandit5432> if you need to ask if it works then most people then shold stick to 32bit ;)
[01:10] <Bomba> ok, working on that.a thousand thank yous anisocial
[01:10] <bandit5432> should'
[01:10] <tensorpudding> philwong, because 64-bit won't work on 32-bit machines
[01:10] <philwong> ok
[01:10] <chaospsychex> LarsN: http://pastie.org/2813036
[01:10] <LarsN> I'm a big fan of 32bit
[01:11] <tensorpudding> philwong, because until recently there was notable software that didn't work on 64-bit
[01:11] <tpe> Isn't 64-bit going to be the recommended release from precise onwards?
[01:11] <An-iSociaL> indeed bandit5432, i could seriously utilize 64-bit but im nervous of its driver support
[01:11] <philwong> But if you HAVE a 64 bit machine... is it ok to use 64 bit or is 32 better for some reason
[01:11] <philwong> tensorpudding: ahh
[01:11] <tensorpudding> philwong, you won't miss out on hardly anything
[01:11] <LarsN> philwong: 6 to 1, half a dozen to another.
[01:11] <bandit5432> An-iSociaL, what driver are you worried about?
[01:11] <An-iSociaL> specifically video drivers
[01:12] <An-iSociaL> radeon hd4200
[01:12] <LarsN> philwong: I tend to run 32bit most of the time if I have 4gb or less ram.
[01:12] <tensorpudding> philwong, i can think of one program that doesn't work in 64-bit
[01:12] <bandit5432> i am using nvidia running on 64 bit typing this
[01:12] <philwong> tensorpudding: which one is that
[01:12] <An-iSociaL> what card bandit5432 ?
[01:12] <tensorpudding> philwong, zsnes
[01:12] <bandit5432> tensorpudding, and it does not work with ia32libs?
[01:12] <An-iSociaL> im in the market for a new one, would be helpful to know which ones work
[01:12] <philwong> tensorpudding: hahaahahaa EPIC!! ;o
[01:12] <philwong> emulator?
[01:12] <bandit5432> so wrong :P
[01:13] <bandit5432> An-iSociaL, gtx 9800
[01:13] <Bomba> i really must apologize for being totally green, but what is the start menu on ubuntu? the thing you get by pressing the windows key?
[01:13] <tensorpudding> and that's not even accurate anymore, because the version in debian unstable that will soon be making its way into ubuntu can compile on 32-bit with ia32libs
[01:13] <bandit5432> its old i know
[01:13] <LarsN> chaospsychex: leave off the c#howto.7z and it will move the entire contents of the Downloads folder
[01:13] <chaospsychex> LarsN: it took 1min to transfer 15mb using rsync
[01:13] <LarsN> chaospsychex: that's slow.
[01:13] <Ruzu> bomba, yes, i think so, but i'm a newbie too :]
[01:13] <LarsN> how fast is the disk in the dv4?
[01:13] <An-iSociaL> mines older bandit5432 lol
[01:13] <LarsN> 5400rpm?
[01:13] <csdserver> I recently did a switch from unity desktop to a kubuntu desktop manager and things have been slight buggy: main issue is Muon Software Center won't prompt for password but complains about priveleges if I try to install anything.  Anyone know how I can sort this?
[01:14] <An-iSociaL> Bomba:  yes the windows button
[01:14] <bandit5432> An-iSociaL, i think it would work then just look up the 64-bit drivers and see it will be listed or not
[01:14] <chaospsychex> LarsN: i don't know
[01:14] <zorklat> I recently installed a radeon video card, and I have no sound.
[01:14] <chaospsychex> i can download 15mb off the internet in 3 secs
[01:14] <LarsN> chaospsychex: It sounds like either the wireless, or the disk in the dv4 is the shortfall.
[01:14] <chaospsychex> i can download 15mb off the internet in 3 secs, using wireless
[01:14] <LarsN> chaospsychex: can you hook the DV4 into the switch/router and test again for good measure?
[01:15] <Bomba> ok. ive got browse the web,view photos, check email, listen to music. typing preferences into the sarch bar shows Broadcast Preferences?
[01:15] <bandit5432> hmm maybe i need to ask my questions else where
[01:15] <chaospsychex> sure
[01:15] <bandit5432> is there an advanced #ubuntu room?
[01:15] <An-iSociaL> bandit5432: i have no clue what your question was, sorry
[01:15] <An-iSociaL> theres alot of action in here
[01:15] <okee> well I get the exact same problem with the USB install as I do with the cd install, so this raises the issue of what is wrong.  Previously the DVD did come back clean with an MD5 checksum, but I am still getting the error messages that ata4, ata5, ata6, SATA Link down.  What is going on?  Is there something wrong with the install ISO?  A conflict with HP?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> csdserver: if you change the .desktop in /usr/share/applications to run:  kdesudo software-center    it should be ok
[01:16] <bandit5432> An-iSociaL, its something that is going to be a pain i can for see
[01:16] <An-iSociaL> okee sounds like it doesnt understand your computer
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> okee: What is the model?
[01:17] <Ruzu> <-- spent weeks trying to install ubuntu, until a random google result gave me the secret sauce: residual raid information was on my disks, and the installer went bonkers because of it (there wasn't a raid any more)
[01:17] <philwong> ubuntu needs 15 gig of HD space??
[01:17] <skumara> I'm trying to install this source code from here http://live.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings . first i do ./configure than when I do make I get this error make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. please help
[01:17] <philwong> good gosh,lol
[01:18] <okee> I have an HP Elitebook 8360w
[01:18] <zorklat> philwong, never in my experience.  you can certainly install that much or more, but not by default.
[01:18] <csdserver> thanks ActionParsnip
[01:18] <okee> There is an error message indicating that DOE doesn't suppuport DPO or FUA.  What does that mean?
[01:18] <philwong> zorklat: its showing that on the system requiremtns for 11.10
[01:18] <bandit5432> skumara, why are you not using the version in the repos?
[01:19] <bandit5432> skumara, apt-get install gpointing-device-settings
[01:19] <skumara> just want to try latest version.
[01:19] <okee> I think I need to hire a sorcerer in order to install Ubuntu.  No ordinary disk is going to work. WE need deep magic :)
[01:19] <zorklat> philwong, admittedly, these days I prefer lubuntu.
[01:19] <bandit5432> the one in the repos is the latest version
[01:19] <Ruzu> where in the filesystem does apt-get put things when you use install?
[01:19] <philwong> zorklat: oh really
[01:19] <philwong> zorklat: why is that
[01:20] <okee> I am going to do a search for the error messages, and see what they mean.
[01:20] <pnorman> Ruzu: I had weird problems on my install until I made a gparted boot drive and wiped out all my raid volumes
[01:20] <okee> Also, it might be worth checking to see if any linux version will work.  I already have a burned version of Sabayon....
[01:20] <skumara> im using 10.04 LTS. the one in repo is version 1.3 and the latest version is 1.5.
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> okee: isit a recent model by HP?
[01:20] <zorklat> philwong, I got into lxde when I was playing WoW -- got like +1 to 2 fps vs gnome 2.x
[01:20] <bandit5432> skumara, sorry i assumed you where using the latest 11.10
[01:20] <zorklat> and now I prefer it, esp to unity, which just doesn't work for me
[01:20] <philwong> zorklat: on wine?
[01:21] <An-iSociaL> okee: final suggestion, check for emulation modes for sata in the bios
[01:21] <bandit5432> gnome 3 fallback mode here
[01:21] <puff> I'm trying to back up my laptop.  I ran into some weird problems iwth rsync, earlier, so I booted into 11.10 liveCD, thinking that maybe the problems were because I was backing up the system while live.  How do I get the partitions mounted?
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> zorklat: lxde uses fewer resources to exist
[01:21] <An-iSociaL> if there are settings, toggle them around and see if you get results
[01:21] <skumara> bandit5432, any idea why the error
[01:21] <bandit5432> skumara, i am looking
[01:21] <zorklat> philwong, yes.  I didn't have XP, and couldn't afford it.
[01:21] <puff> In unity, where's the eqiuvalent of the old Administration menu?
[01:21] <philwong> zorklat: oh I see
[01:21] <zorklat> ActionParsnip, that's why I went to it.
[01:22] <philwong> so anyone can just use windows free
[01:22] <An-iSociaL> indeed ActionParsnip, <3 lubuntu
[01:22] <philwong> but using wine
[01:22] <philwong> lol
[01:22] <chromaticwt> so holding alt after alt-tab switches between windows within a currently selected app.
[01:22] <puff> Hm, found Disk Manager, it won't let me mount the drives, says "the daemon is being inhibited".
[01:23] <zorklat> philwong, it worked fine.  I was getting around 25 fps when I started going to school and gave up on WoW entirely.  and given I used an Nvidia GeForce 7100 w/ 128Mb, that was pretty good.
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> philwong: its not windows, wine translates the directx calls to native linux calls
[01:23] <puff> help?
[01:23] <puff> Sigh.
[01:23] <okee> I have done some checking online, and one of the posts suggests that the controller is the problem and doesn't support the OS.  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-984157.html  Anyone have an idea as to what is going on?  Or how i can get this to work?
[01:23] <philwong> ActionParsnip: thats all?
[01:23] <philwong> it has a program files... system files
[01:23] <An-iSociaL> okee: final suggestion, check for emulation modes for sata in the bios
[01:23] <philwong> it looks pretty windows to me
[01:24] <An-iSociaL> (repost)
[01:24] <zorklat> philwong, yes, that's how wine works.  And it works pretty well.
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> philwong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29
[01:24] <okee> Yes, this is a recent model of HP.  Supposedly this is supposed to run Linux, but the online postings give me some doubts.  The postings suggest it isn't compatible with the controller http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-984157.html
[01:24] <bandit5432> skumara, i dont know
[01:24] <skilz_> what do I need to install to watch youtube flash videos?
[01:24] <skilz_> Says im missing a plugin
[01:24] <skumara> bandit5432, its ok.
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> philwong: it only gives part of the functionality just in a similar fashion. It's not windows
[01:24] <skumara> thanks'
[01:24] <chromaticwt> ubuntu needs better documentation
[01:25] <bandit5432> skumara, let me download the source real quick and see what i get
[01:25] <philwong> ActionParsnip: I see
[01:25] <An-iSociaL> philwong:
[01:25] <An-iSociaL> http://www.cedega.com/
[01:25] <An-iSociaL> theyve tweaked wine for the intention of gaming
[01:26] <philwong> An-iSociaL: very cool
[01:26] <philwong> An-iSociaL: are those games usable on linux?
[01:26] <An-iSociaL> under cedega
[01:26] <zorklat> skilz_, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:27] <bandit5432> who is killing gnome.org??
[01:27] <An-iSociaL> they have a games database so you can check for the game you intend to run
[01:27] <bandit5432> did some one dos or hack it?
[01:27] <okee> ok. The options for the SATA device mode are AHCI, IDE, and RAID.  It is currently set to AHCI.  Is that what I should have?
[01:27] <An-iSociaL> try IDE okee
[01:28] <An-iSociaL> if the controller is emulating it may have a better chance of being compatible
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> okee: try ide
[01:29] <bandit5432> skumara, i cant get to the website
[01:29] <skilz_> thanks guys
[01:29] <okee> This laptop doesn't even have a pause button.
[01:30] <bandit5432> any one having issues with laptop lcd not blanking or blanking with the backlite still on??
[01:30] <bandit5432> any one scripted a vbetools dpms off script that works?
[01:31] <An-iSociaL> negatory bandit5432
[01:31] <skumara> bandit5432, go to homepage http://live.gnome.org/Home than search for gpointingsettings in title
[01:31] <okee> nope. Still get the same error message:  "doesn't support DPO or FUA.  What does that mean?
[01:32] <okee> Also during the bootup it says ATA2 failed.  And here an HP authorized service center supposedly checked this thing out.  I think something goofy is going on.
[01:32] <An-iSociaL> i agree okee
[01:32] <mikemol> I need help moving a Launchpad bug, but I really don't know how to do it.
[01:32] <satria> dffd
[01:33] <An-iSociaL> try the third setting, raid, and see if anything happens, im starting to think that laptop is screwed
[01:33] <okee> I should have bought a MacBook Pro.
[01:33] <An-iSociaL> lol
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> okee: is the bios up to date?
[01:33] <An-iSociaL> go thinkpad
[01:33] <mikemol> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/886410/comments/3 describes what I want to move and where to, but I don't know how. :-|
[01:33] <An-iSociaL> <3s me some thinkpad action *drools*
[01:33] <bandit5432> skumara, did you check and makesure that you meet the requirments
[01:34] <bandit5432> skumara,  gtk 2.14.0   GConf-2-2.24.0 Xi-1.2.0  ??
[01:34] <okee> HP did send out an advisory, but I wanted a tech to look at it so that it wouldn't avoid my warranty.  I am having trouble believing that just a bios would stop an Ubuntu installation.  ubuntu is supposed to be one of the more tolerant linux installations, and usually will setup most anywhere.
[01:35] <An-iSociaL> but if it cant access a disk theres nothing you can do
[01:35] <An-iSociaL> thats like core right there
[01:35] <bandit5432> skumara, i cant install or build it i dont have gnome 2 i am using gnome 3 errors out at checking for GNOME_SETTINGS_DAEMON... configure: error: Package requirements (gnome-settings-daemon >= 2.28.0) were not met:
[01:36] <bandit5432> i have version gnome-settings 3.2.0-0ubuntu5
[01:37] <bandit5432> okee, does a live cd work?
[01:37] <bandit5432> okee, what laptop is it?
[01:37] <okee> I was hoping to use a live CD.  I have an HP Elitebook 8360w.  Windows seems to work ok.  However, the bios software is pretty funky.
[01:38] <hemangpatel> can anyone help me in partition ?
[01:38] <bandit5432> its the 83 not the 84?
[01:38] <rhizmoe> hah, the windows xp sounds i'm hearing from virtualbox
[01:39] <rhizmoe> seems like years
[01:40] <bandit5432> okee,  i dont find a HP Elitebook 8360w  at hp??
[01:40] <hemangpatel> howmuch space i give for different partition for max performance ?
[01:40] <An-iSociaL> bandit5432: neither could i
[01:40] <jen__> how can I make my skype all one window? instead of three
[01:40] <bandit5432> so is this a real laptop or is this a troll?
[01:40] <okee> ok.  One of the advisories says to look at http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Hardware%2C_driver_status for controller compatibility, but I can't get the link to work. Can anyone else pull it up?
[01:40] <An-iSociaL> Your search - HP Elitebook 8360w - did not match any documents.
[01:41] <An-iSociaL> google says no
[01:41] <An-iSociaL> which is odd
[01:41] <bandit5432> okee, is it a 83 or 84???
[01:41] <hemangpatel> why noone give answer of my question ?
[01:41] <okee> I have an Elitebook 8560w.  Supposedly this is supposed to run both Linux and CAD.
[01:41] <okee> It is an i7, QM.
[01:41] <rallf> hemangpatel: doesn't affect your performance. only your backup strategy (if any)
[01:42] <bandit5432> hemangpatel, what are you trying to install and how big is the drive
[01:42] <okee> It isn't too late to ship it back, but I would like to keep it if i can get it working.
[01:42] <chaospsychex> LarsN: hooking in the router didn't change anything
[01:42] <hemangpatel> 30 gb space (Total)
[01:42] <hemangpatel> 4 GB DDR3 ram
[01:43] <hemangpatel> boot = ?? , swap = ??
[01:43] <bandit5432> okee, that will run linux just fine
[01:43] <bandit5432> hemangpatel,  how much ram do you have?
[01:43] <Iria> My boyfriend was wondering what to do. He logged in and networking was disabled. He tries to click on enable networking and it doesn't enable it
[01:43] <hemangpatel> 4gb
[01:43] <An-iSociaL> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2011-10/msg06285.html
[01:43] <bandit5432> hemangpatel,  how many apps do you thing you will install?
[01:44] <An-iSociaL> they report ubuntu will not run on that laptop
[01:44] <okee> Several of the links that talk about an incomptabile controller are written in Russian.  Does anyone read Russian? http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html
[01:44] <oslo> bonjour
[01:44] <An-iSociaL> there are several similar reports
[01:44] <bandit5432> okee,  translate.google.com
[01:44] <hemangpatel> bandit5432 : Some regular apps
[01:44] <hemangpatel> not much
[01:45] <|0xD34D|> I just upgraded to 11.10 and I can no longer access my system from other computers via SSH or VNC any ideas?
[01:45] <bandit5432> hemangpatel, 4gb swap 10 gb root  and the rest for home
[01:45] <bandit5432> you dont need a boot  for that small of a drive
[01:46] <bandit5432> hemangpatel,  you could get by with a smaller root drive but i like room to grom
[01:46] <bandit5432> grow
[01:46] <okee> OK. It says this page is unavailable to you.  It may have been moved, etc, etc........
[01:46] <hemangpatel> ok
[01:47] <bandit5432> you also could do the swap and then install everything in one partion
[01:47] <bandit5432> really its up to you
[01:47] <hemangpatel> hmmm...ok
[01:47] <bandit5432> i have a big drive and have 4gb swap 25 gb root and 25 gb home
[01:48] <bandit5432> the rest i mount at a diffrent mount point makes backups easier
[01:48] <An-iSociaL> alright everyone the An-iSociaL knowledge library is closed
[01:48] <An-iSociaL> have a good evening
[01:49]  * An-iSociaL fades out
[01:49] <hemangpatel> bandit5432 : Thanks.. bye..
[01:49] <bandit5432> ok
[01:49] <bandit5432> okee, did you add the line to boot options pcie_aspm=force ?
[01:50] <bandit5432> hemangpatel, have fun with linux
[01:51] <bandit5432> okee, what exactly is the problem?
[01:53] <venluckey> wow, 6984 channels on server
[01:54] <bandit5432> okee, there is a fix for installing
[01:54] <venluckey> bye room
[01:55] <jen__> how can I make my skype all one window? instead of three
[01:55] <ranjan> where can i get the cisco vpn client for ubuntu linux?
[01:55] <|0xD34D|> I just checked to make sure UFW was disabled, then restarted.  After upgrading to 11.10 I can no longer access my computer via SSH or VNC.  Any ideas about this?
[01:55] <obert-> how to find a string in the computer?
[01:55] <okee> I can't get the laptop to install or run Ubuntu 11.10  It won't install from DVD nor from USB memory stick.  Postings I see online suggest a possible controller problem and that the controller may not be compatible with Linux  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=984157
[01:56] <okee> What is  pcie_aspm=force ??
[01:56] <bandit5432> okee, scratch that
[01:57] <bandit5432> you need to follow the bug thread at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/864739 and
[01:57] <bandit5432> I had the same issue. However I was able to start the live-cd/usb by adding the following grub boot parameter (using F6):
[01:57] <bandit5432> nouveau.modeset=0
[01:57] <BlackCoffee> hello,can anyone tell me why if i'm using X-FCE as a DE,i the Gnome desktop settings and menu still appear as default?it's kind of overriding xfce's default desktop settings,it even has replaced the wall paper i have set on the xfce settings
[01:58] <bandit5432> BlackCoffee, i dont know but it happend to me as well something with nautilus taking over
[01:58] <bandit5432> if you kill nautilus it will come back to xfce
[01:59] <BlackCoffee> i hadn't thought about that,i'll check
[01:59] <AaronCampbell> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an old system.  It's too old to boot to a USB drive, and while it'll boot to the CD it can't seem to install from it.  It keeps getting an error while copying the files due to a problem with the drive (and not the disk, I checked).  Does anyone have any ideas how I can still get it installed?  Is there a way to have it get install files from some online source instead of the CD?  Or maybe a way to install from a USB
[01:59] <AaronCampbell>  after booting to the CD?
[01:59] <BlackCoffee> thanks man!
[02:00] <starlon> I think you can buy a CD.
[02:00] <starlon> Check Amazon or Newegg
[02:00] <|0xD34D|> any takers on why I cannot access my computer from another device after upgrading to 11.10?
[02:00] <bandit5432> AaronCampbell,  you can use a netinstall disk
[02:00] <AaronCampbell> starlon: A CD or a CDRom?  The CD is fine, and I know I can get a CDRom (or DVD now), but wanted to get it installed tonight
[02:00] <bandit5432> AaronCampbell, are you booting to 10.04 or a newer realease?
[02:01] <starlon> No, a CD :) Sorry
[02:01] <starlon> I thought the drive was bad is why I didn't suggest net install.
[02:01] <AaronCampbell> bandit5432: I'm booting to the 11.10 CD
[02:01] <starlon> Then again the hdd could be bad?
[02:02] <AaronCampbell> starlon: I tried 3 different drives that I've been using in other systems fine
[02:02] <BlackCoffee> and now for the glorious reboot
[02:02] <starlon> k
[02:02] <bandit5432> AaronCampbell, 11.10 unity or 11.10 lxde or xubuntu?
[02:02] <AaronCampbell> bandit5432: Unity
[02:03] <bandit5432> AaronCampbell,  of its an old computer i would try 11.10 lubuntu or xubuntu unity does not like old computers
[02:03] <bandit5432> AaronCampbell, does the computer start at all with the cd in?
[02:03] <bandit5432> if'
[02:03] <AaronCampbell> bandit5432: yes.  It starts up and looks fine...even browsed the web, etc.
[02:03] <bandit5432> bah i am sick of gnome
[02:04] <AaronCampbell> It just fails out when copying the files for install
[02:04] <bandit5432> AaronCampbell, when copying or does it error out as setting up enviroment
[02:04] <AaronCampbell> There's some position that the CD head can't seem to read from
[02:04] <AaronCampbell> bandit5432: No, just errors when copying files
[02:04] <bandit5432> you can try a netinstall AaronCampbell and hope it does not need to read that part of the disk
[02:05] <AaronCampbell> bandit5432: How do you do a net install?
[02:05] <bandit5432> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:05] <AaronCampbell> Thanks
[02:06] <bandit5432> no problem
[02:06] <bandit5432> any elite script writes want to waste some time?
[02:06] <bandit5432> writers'
[02:06] <riking> bandit5432: what do you do for a 512 MB flash drive
[02:07] <okee> I am going to shut down and boot from the so called defective DVD.  The more I look at this laptop, the more I think I have been had by an HP emissary.  Back in awhile.........:)
[02:07] <johnjohn101> i screw up the default profile on terminal.. does anyone know what the default color scheme is?
[02:08] <bandit5432> riking, i dont understand the question
[02:08] <skilz_> what do I need to install to watch youtube flash videos?
[02:08] <riking> how do i make a live USB drive if i only have .5 GB
[02:08] <bandit5432> riking,  you use a small distro like dsl or puppy
[02:08] <skilz_> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras now what?
[02:08] <xangua> skilz_: adobe flash plugin or use html5
[02:08] <riking> kay
[02:09] <bandit5432> skilz_, if you are running 11.10 then apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[02:10] <bandit5432> riking, if you install dsl or puppy its not ubuntu
[02:10] <riking> i know that
[02:10] <riking> :)
[02:10] <bandit5432> ok just making sure
[02:10] <riking> i do help on irc.esper.net with minecraft
[02:10] <bandit5432> some times i suggest things and people are not happy with the results
[02:10] <riking> ikr
[02:11] <riking> .help
[02:11] <riking> ....nope
[02:11] <grkblood> how do i keep my network up when i close my laptop?
[02:11] <bandit5432> riking,  you you use netbootin?
[02:11] <riking> grkblood: make it not sleep
[02:11] <bandit5432> i meant UNetbootin
[02:12] <riking> ehhhhhh don't thionk so
[02:12] <riking> thinking about bringing a ubuntu to my school
[02:12] <riking> and every CD so far has failed when i hit "try"
[02:13] <bandit5432> UNetbootin lets use easly install linux distros on usb drives
[02:13] <Kubbur> what was the command to see file permissions on certain files and folders ubuntu server terminal
[02:14] <bandit5432> ls -l
[02:14] <johnjohn101> what size usb do you recommend
[02:14] <soreau> Kubbur: ls -l /path/to/file_or_folder
[02:14] <bandit5432> johnjohn101, usb drive for what?
[02:14] <riking> johnjohn101: official is >2Gb
[02:14] <riking> but i'm too lazy to go buy one
[02:15] <johnjohn101> so 8 GB is ok for 11.10 (usb)
[02:15] <pnorman> I was buying flash drives yesterday and the smallest you can get now is 4 GB
[02:15] <bandit5432> for a install or for liveusb johnjohn101 ?
[02:15] <riking> but i'm too lazy to go buy one
[02:15] <paxtoncamaro91> riking did u check the md5 before u burned the img and the preferred wright speed  is 2x
[02:15] <johnjohn101> i want to get rid of my hard drive and take ubuntu with me so i guess live
[02:15] <Taek> Alright folks, i have a weird situation and would like to know if it could be fixable without a reinstall
[02:15] <riking> 2x kay got it
[02:16] <Taek> I have an intel mainboard with an intel pentium D 805 processor, the mainboard has the processor running in "sw single processor" mode, i'd like to disable it so i can run it in full dualcore
[02:16] <riking> BIOS first, ask questions later
[02:17] <bandit5432> johnjohn101,  for unity install you need min of 15 gigs, for lubuntu or xunbuntu less see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:17] <Taek> now when i do this ,the OS does boot up,, but after a few minutes in terminal, the whole system becomes unresponsive
[02:17] <riking> loljk
[02:17] <johnjohn101> bandit5432: tx
[02:17] <Taek> Is there something I need to do on the system to fix this issue?
[02:17] <Taek> mind you this is Ubuntu Server 10.04.3 LTS
[02:18] <pnorman> Taek: Is that a bios or ubuntu setting?
[02:18] <Taek> bios
[02:18] <Taek> right now it's running in single processor mode
[02:18] <Taek> even though it's a dual-core processor
[02:19] <Taek> if I disable sw single processor, it runs the process in it's dual-core state
[02:19] <bandit5432> johnjohn101, glad i could help
[02:19] <Taek> but the system freezes after only a minute or two running
[02:19] <bandit5432> Taek, are you switching modes with out a fresh install?
[02:19] <Taek> Without?
[02:19] <Taek> i would very much like to solve this without a fresh install
[02:20] <Taek> Is it at all possible?
[02:20] <pnorman> Taek: You could try switching it then booting off of a USB flash drive
[02:20] <_r00t_> Finally !
[02:21] <pnorman> You should also consider the possibility that one of the cores is fried
[02:21] <Taek> hmm
[02:21] <johnjohn101> i really need to go to multiple monitors..  which is better supported nvidia or ati for this?
[02:21] <Taek> could it also be a software issue with the system not reconizing that the processor has essentually changed?
[02:22] <velcroshooz> 11.10 on my laptop, whenever the screen turns off, it refuses to turn back on - touchpad or key presses do nothing. Anyone else experienced this? Suggestions?
[02:23] <_r00t_> now running kernel 3.1.0 on 11.04 with Nvidia 285.05.09 drivers. Suspend to RAM/hybrid fixed
[02:23] <bandit5432> _r00t_, nice
[02:23] <_r00t_> velcroshooz: what graphics card #
[02:23] <velcroshooz> _r00t_: its an intel 915
[02:24] <bandit5432> i wish i could figure out how to get dpms force off to turn my backlit off
[02:24] <_r00t_> bandit5432: Thanks chief
[02:24] <pnorman> Taek: I don't know, but if it crashes with a LiveCD or other install on a USB flash drive it's more likely to be hardware
[02:24] <bandit5432> _r00t_, always nice when something gets fixed
[02:24] <rallf> Taek: more likely a linux hacker has screwed up because concurrency ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrency_%28computer_science%29 ) is hard. re-installing the same software won't change it. be thankful that single-processor hides the bug.
[02:24] <_r00t_> velcroshooz: 915 should be straight forward dpms set in xorg.conf ?
[02:25] <bandit5432> i am hating dpms right now!!
[02:25] <velcroshooz> _r00t_: ive not touched anything in xorg.conf, should it be set there by default or no?
[02:25] <_r00t_> bandit5432: Thanks ! Unfortunately I was trying to kill to problems . STR & and cpu frequency scaling :/
[02:25] <Taek> I'll trya live distro later this evening and let you folks know, right now gotta get back to minecraft
[02:26] <_r00t_> velcroshooz: it should be on my default . xdpyinfo is your friend
[02:26] <_tr1gg3r> Taek, do that and ignore rallf the troll
[02:26] <YO> hola a todos
[02:27] <soreau> ! es | YO
[02:27] <bandit5432> i can get my backlit to turn off with vbetool dpms off but i cant get it turn back on with out a restart and or trying to type vbetool dpms on in a black screen
[02:27]  * _r00t_ needs nicotine ...  Oh wow ! my monitors just went off ... heh another free fix. I
[02:27] <Taek> Let me look at the dmsg
[02:27] <soreau> bandit5432: What graphics driver?
[02:28] <bandit5432> x-swat latest
[02:28] <bandit5432> 285.02.09
[02:28] <bandit5432> 285.05.09'
[02:28] <bandit5432> nvidia
[02:29] <bandit5432> i can get it to blank with dpms force off but the backlit stays lit
[02:29] <bandit5432> there are scripts for vbetool but i cant get them to work
[02:29] <_r00t_> bandit5432: what kernel are you using ?
[02:29] <velcroshooz> _r00t_: it seems i have no xorg.conf ... X is doing autodetection i guess
[02:30] <bandit5432> 3.0.0.12
[02:30] <_r00t_> velcroshooz: grep DPMS /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:31] <bandit5432> you think i should try going up to 3.1?
[02:31] <_r00t_> bandit5432: I ended up compiling 3.1 to fix my problems. The mainline kernels didn't work for me.... need a smoke brb
[02:31] <bandit5432> bah i have not compiled a kernel since the 90's
[02:32] <bandit5432> soreau, any ideas?
[02:32] <_r00t_> bandit5432: likewise ... 1st one I've done in ages ! I love he 2.2 / 2.4 days ... make dep && make modules && .....
[02:32] <soreau> bandit5432: Probably a driver bug
[02:32] <soreau> try a different version or use nouveau
[02:33] <_r00t_> ooorrrrr dont touch nouveau with a barge pole
[02:33] <bandit5432> i might reboot the livecd and see if it works there
[02:33] <_r00t_> gl bandit5432
[02:33] <bandit5432> i think its a gnome bug
[02:34] <velcroshooz> _r00t_: results of grep - http://pastebin.com/Y8E20qL0
[02:35] <bandit5432> might be my laptop is old as well :C
[02:36] <bandit5432> i need to figure out this script with gnome3 http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Automatically_turn_off_your_monitor#For_GNOME
[02:36] <starlon> Will upgrading the ATI driver to the latest cause any issues?
[02:40] <bandit5432> i think i found fix or maybe!!
[02:40] <soreau> starlon: The default radeon driver should work better
[02:41] <jen__> anyone know how to connect the skype to just one window instead of a bajillion
[02:41] <jen__> :D
[02:43] <fusion271> I have a home server running ubuntu 10.04.  I'm samba sharing a 2tb usb drive so my wife can copy her photos to location outside of her notebook.  She uploads folders of images from her photography biz to this USB drive.  in each of these folders buried within somewhere, there's gonna be a zip file that I'd like to FTP  or SSH up to my webserver.  Can rsync do that?
[02:43] <_r00t_> velcroshooz: that doesn't look nice ? Is it just the DPMS problem that you're having or does STR also not work ?
[02:43] <jen__> anyone??
[02:44] <starlon> soreau: thanks
[02:44] <fusion271> jen__: repeat your question, I just got here
[02:44] <velcroshooz> _r00t_: STR?
[02:44] <_r00t_> velcroshooz: suspend to ram
[02:44] <jen__> i dont know how to get skype in just ONE window not three or four and a bajillion
[02:44] <nixxofugi> quick question. during ubuntu install, i'm not seeing my hard drives to be able to select which partition i need to install to. I know i need to install a package to see them, but i cant remember which one... can anyone help?
[02:45] <velcroshooz> _r00t_: not sure about that, i dont use it. biggest issue is i have to have my screen set to never turn off right now, because i cant get it back once it does :/
[02:45] <tauren> So I fucked up my new 11.10 upgrade by running "sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool"
[02:45] <fusion271> nixxofugi: I think you want gparted
[02:45] <tauren> no longer boots into unity
[02:45] <bandit5432> tauren, just choose unity at the login screen
[02:45] <tauren> did this because I wanted to change the color of text on bacground icons
[02:46] <nixxofugi> no that's not it.
[02:46] <soreau> nixxofugi: You don't need to install anything. It depends on which partitioning method you choose. Manual Partitioning will allow full control
[02:46] <bandit5432> the little gog wheel next to name at the login screen lets you change back to unity
[02:46] <tauren> bandit5432: there isn't a unity option. I've tried Gnome and Ubuntu
[02:46] <nixxofugi> i went to manual, and it literally doesnt detect my partitions
[02:46] <bandit5432> ubuntu shuold be unity
[02:46] <bandit5432> are you running 11.04 or 11.10?
[02:47] <tauren> l11.10
[02:47] <tauren> bandit5432: ok, i'm logging out to check again.
[02:47] <bandit5432> you can always apt-get install unity
[02:47] <tauren> but last time i logged in with Ubuntu, I didn't get the menu bar across the top, just desktop icons.
[02:47] <bandit5432> if you did to much damage
[02:48] <nixxofugi> does anyone know what i mean?
[02:48] <bandit5432> nixxofugi, it does not see the partitions or the drive?
[02:48] <tauren> bandit5432: across the top is the menu bar for nautilus i think.
[02:48] <nixxofugi> bandit: both
[02:48] <bandit5432> tauren, thats gnome 3 fallback
[02:48] <nixxofugi> bandit5432: it
[02:48] <tauren> so I should apt-get install unity?
[02:49] <bandit5432> tauren, i would then open gnome-tweak and make sure you dont have fallback set to force
[02:49] <An-iSociaL> i think ive just lost my mind
[02:49] <nixxofugi> bandit5432: it's 64bit version. i click on install ubuntu from the livecd and it takes me to the language, then after that the screen where i can select drive/partition but its blank
[02:49] <tauren> bandit5432: how do i even open gnome-tweak without a launcher? i don't even know how to open a terminal
[02:49] <An-iSociaL> i cant remember the route add command
[02:50] <bandit5432> tauren, hit alt+f2 type gnome-tweak
[02:50] <_r00t_> wonders how you auto select a kernel under the 'old kernels' menu in grub
[02:50] <bandit5432> you select it and hit enter _r00t_
[02:51] <bandit5432> tauren, you get it ?
[02:51] <_r00t_> bandit5432: ROFL ! I meant within grub.cfg via the default="foobar" parameter
[02:51] <bandit5432> _r00t_, i use startup manager and i dont worry about it :P
[02:51] <_r00t_> bandit5432: GOOD TIP !
[02:52] <jen__> does anyone know how to get skype to be in just ONE window???
[02:52] <bandit5432> hmm i had a better grub editor where did it go!!
[02:52] <tauren> bandit5432: somethings not right. i understand what you are saying, but i'm going to have to reboot before trying it. i'll ping you back.
[02:53] <bandit5432> _r00t_, bootup manager works better imho
[02:53] <bandit5432> no thats not it :|
[02:53] <nixxofugi> how can it be this difficult to install an os that claims to be superior to the rest?
[02:53] <fusion271> I'm running an ubuntu server at home here and am interacting with it via terminal only… when it's complaining at me about updates, what apt command am I looking for take care of these updates
[02:53] <fusion271> ?19 packages can be updated.
[02:53] <fusion271> 17 updates are security updates.
[02:53] <bandit5432> nixxofugi,  whats it do again
[02:53] <_r00t_> bandit5432: :/ I'm apt getting startup-manager ... I'll try bootup manager too then :p
[02:54] <bandit5432> _r00t_, dont use bootup manager its for services
[02:54] <bandit5432> fusion271, apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> fusion271: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <bandit5432> nixxofugi, i am sorry i am all over the place
[02:54] <_r00t_> bandit5432: startup-manager works :) Thanks
[02:55] <fusion271> tx bandit5432 ActionParsnip
[02:55] <bandit5432> _r00t_, i found it its grub customizer
[02:55] <jen__> does anyone know how to make skype one window instead of a bajillion???
[02:56] <bandit5432> nixxofugi, you there?
[02:56] <no1> hello?
[02:56] <nixxofugi> i click install ubuntu 11.10 from the live cd. select my language. it asks me if i want to install packages during the install and also asks me to install third party software. then it takes me to the screen where i can select a hard drive/partition to install to but it's empty! no drives or partitions to select from. i know i need to install a package from the software center but i cant remember the package name
[02:56] <greg3000> hey fellas, I'm running the latest distro.. actually upgrading now to the very newest.  I changed around some video drivers and xorg.conf and my ubuntu unity seems to have reverted back to regular gnome.. how to change back?
[02:56] <no1> nixxofugi, make sure you hard drives are mounted
[02:56] <tauren> bandit5432: hitting alt-f2 doesn't do anythting. I think i'm just running nautilus as my shell or something.
[02:57] <bandit5432> nixxofugi,  try booting into the live cd and openinf up gparted
[02:58] <nixxofugi> gparted shows the drives/partitions
[02:58] <no1> is anyone there?
[02:58] <bandit5432> tauren, ctrl + alt + t
[02:58] <bandit5432> nixxofugi,  good at least they are showing up
[02:59] <tauren> bandit5432: nope, doesn't do anything either
[02:59] <bandit5432> tauren,  you have no menus at all?
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> nixxofugi: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l   do you see the drive and/or partitions
[03:00] <tauren> bandit5432: across the top of the screen is the following menu:  File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help
[03:00] <bandit5432> tauren, at the start screen choose one of the other options
[03:00] <Evanescence> Does anybody knows where is the log file of sendmail ?
[03:00] <bandit5432> in /var/log Evanescence ?
[03:00] <no1> it has to be in the var directory
[03:00] <nixxofugi> ActionParsnip: yep theyre there
[03:00] <Evanescence> bandit5432: I can not find it in /var/log
[03:00] <tauren> bandit5432: how can i logout? I know how to use ctrl-alt-F1 to login and reboot.
[03:00] <no1> evanescence
[03:00] <no1> open a terminal
[03:01] <no1> and type updatedb
[03:01] <no1> then type locate sendmail
[03:01] <no1> then it should show all the directories and maybe even the fiel
[03:01] <no1> *file
[03:01] <Evanescence> no1: no /var/log path in output
[03:01] <no1> does it have send mail?
[03:02] <bandit5432> i wish they did not deiable ctrl+alt+bkspace by defulat now
[03:02] <bandit5432> disable
[03:02] <no1> the disabled that awhile back didn't they?
[03:02] <xangua> bandit5432: you can enable it on keyboard preferences
[03:02] <Evanescence> no1: sendmail in mutt can not sendmail, so I want to check log
[03:03] <nixxofugi> there's a package that i need from the software center. it needs to be installed before running the installer. does anyone know what i mean?
[03:03] <no1> i hate mutter
[03:03] <no1> paste what shows up in the terminal
[03:03]  * _r00t_ hugs no1 
[03:03] <tauren> bandit5432: Ubuntu 2D works
[03:03] <bandit5432> xangua, i now but that does not help tauren
[03:03] <bandit5432> know'
[03:03] <Evanescence> no1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/728752/
[03:04] <bandit5432> no1 i hate mutter as well
[03:04] <bandit5432> so tauren  are you in ubuntu 2d?
[03:04]  * _r00t_ doesn't hug bandit5432 but offers a 'hai' :)
[03:04] <bandit5432> :)
[03:04] <tauren> bandit5432: yes, i am now
[03:04] <bandit5432> can you find gnome-tweak in the menu?
[03:05] <no1> hey
[03:05] <bandit5432> _r00t_, did you install grub customizer?
[03:05] <no1> check this directory: /var/log/maillog.
[03:05] <_r00t_> bandit5432: yep ... works great
[03:05] <urlin2u> gnome tweak is called advanced tools
[03:05] <bandit5432> i like it as well
[03:05] <bandit5432> tauren, you see that its called advanced tools
[03:05] <tauren> bandit5432: I installed gnome-tweak-tool. but i then removed it trying to get things back. I also did a apt-get autoremove and removed a ton of stuff.
[03:05] <urlin2u> doh advanced setting*
[03:06] <bandit5432> tauren, i would reinstall gnome-tweak and unity
[03:06] <greg3000> everyone: I'm running the latest distro.. actually upgrading now to the very newest.  I changed around some video drivers and xorg.conf and my ubuntu unity seems to have reverted back to regular gnome.. how to change back?
[03:06] <bandit5432> sudo apt-get install unity gnome-tweak
[03:06] <qwebirc59586> howdy, my brother is a nub and tried to enable auto login and broke ICEauthority, i can alt-f2 fine, can someone help me with the command or file to gedit to fix this
[03:06] <tauren> ok. i did install unity again, but it said it was already installed. I'll try again.
[03:06] <bandit5432> then reinstall gnoe-tweak
[03:07] <tauren> i assume you mean gnome-tweak-tool
[03:07] <okee> Well this is the verdict.  I think the Ubuntu disk is good because I was able to boot from it on my desktop.  I tried the same disk again on the HP Elitebook 8560w, and it wouldn't install, not even running it from DVD.  Also, I did try SAbayon 64-bit on the HP, and it would install, so there is some type of incompatibility going on with the HP laptop and the Ubuntu disk. The question is whether
[03:07] <okee> or not something can be done about it?
[03:07] <okee> Also, I switched bach to the AHSE mode in the bios.  I don't think the IDE mode is the correct one.
[03:07] <bandit5432> okee, did you try the fix i mentioned?
[03:08] <okee> I didn't notice.  What is fix i?
[03:08] <bandit5432> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/864739
[03:08] <tauren> bandit5432: ok, seems to have installed. logging out
[03:08] <tauren> should i log in as ubuntu, or ubuntu 2d?
[03:08] <bandit5432> okee,  I had the same issue. However I was able to start the live-cd/usb by adding the following grub boot parameter (using F6): nouveau.modeset=0
[03:09] <bandit5432> tauren, dont logout
[03:09] <bandit5432> run gnome-tweak
[03:09] <tauren> ok, well already did. but will log back in.
[03:09] <okee> So at what poin do I use the F6 nouveau.modeset=0?
[03:09] <bandit5432> from the terminal run gnome-tweak-tool
[03:09] <bandit5432> okee, at the start
[03:10] <okee> I had the same result from DVD and USB, so I will probably use the DVDW.
[03:10] <bandit5432> hit f6 and add the nouve part at the end
[03:10] <velcroshooz> 11.10 on my laptop, whenever the screen turns off, it refuses to turn back on - touchpad or key presses do nothing. Anyone else experienced this? Suggestions?
[03:10] <okee> ok.  I iwll try it and see what happens.
[03:10] <tauren> bandit5432: its running
[03:11] <bandit5432> tauren,  under desktop tab what does it show for file manger handle desktop?
[03:11] <tauren> bandit5432: should I turn off "Have the file manager handle the desktop"?
[03:11] <bandit5432> yes
[03:11] <tauren> it says on
[03:11] <tauren> ok
[03:11] <tauren> done
[03:12] <tauren> bandit5432: should i try logging out and back in with "Ubuntu"?
[03:12] <bandit5432> yes
[03:14] <tauren> bandit5432: would you say the recommendations at this link are reasonable? I'm wary now because the first one screwed things up. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[03:14] <francisvgarcia> hey guys why ubuntu freezes when I play a movie
[03:14] <bandit5432> tauren, i use several of them
[03:14] <francisvgarcia> and restart the session
[03:14] <okee> I don't have the nouveau.modeset=0? option at start.  I selected the F6 and now I am presented with the following options: 1) acpi=off, 2)noapic, 3) nolapic, 4) edd=on, 5) nodmiraid, 6) nomodeset, 7) Free software only
[03:14] <rallf> velcroshooz: i'd disable the screensaver
[03:14] <okee> These are the only options I found after selecting F6.
[03:15] <bandit5432> hmm whats the key for custom
[03:15] <velcroshooz> rallf: its not the screensaver .. its the power saving option to turn off the screen.
[03:15] <okee> Are you sure it isn't something like nomodeset?
[03:15] <tauren> bandit5432: ok. So logging in with "Ubuntu" now gives me just my desktop with no icons, no menu bar, nothing.
[03:15] <okee> I regret I didn't buy the Macbook Pro.  Would have been a lot less trouble.
[03:15] <bandit5432> turen log back into the other one that worked
[03:15] <bandit5432> tauren, '
[03:16] <bandit5432> okee you need to get to custom and add the line that was posted
[03:16] <_r00t_> google 0000:00:1a.70000:00:1d.7ls: cannot access /sys/bus/pci/drivers/xhci_hcd: No such file or directory - or is #ubuntu my friend ?
[03:16] <velcroshooz> should be 'e' to edit the line
[03:16] <rallf> velcroshooz: mmh. then i guess disabling _that_ isn't good enough for you, because you want to save power.
[03:17] <velcroshooz> rallf: yeah .. ive got it set to never turn off now, because otherwise its a reboot to get back .. but ultimately id like to fix it ;)
[03:17] <starlon> I have a CrystalFontz CFA634 model character LCD, and when Linux starts up it prints ]:[] characters randomly covering almost 2 rows. It should start with a greeting display mentioning CyrstalFontz and CFA634, plus a logo and I think firmware vs.
[03:18] <starlon> I'm pretty sure it's in the Linux kernel itself.
[03:18] <w0_> anyone know of a good site where I can find themes for 11.10?  much thx!
[03:18] <starlon> I could fix it if I knew how to build and install a custom kernel.
[03:18] <bandit5432> okee,  choose the install ubuntu but dont hit enter
[03:18] <okee> I don't have a custom option.
[03:19] <bandit5432> okee,  choose the install ubuntu but dont hit enter
[03:19] <_r00t_> w0_: Install ubuntu tweak and look at additional repositories - There's a heap of good ones via ppa
[03:19] <w0_> _r00t_ : sweet -- I appreciate it!
[03:19] <w0_> =)
[03:19] <tauren> bandit5432: ok, logged back in. what's the diff between "Ubuntu" and "Ubuntu 2d"?
[03:19] <rallf> francisvgarcia: i don't know what causes it. but i avoid this problem by using mplayer -vo x11 (not as good as -vo xv, but doen't trigger the problem)
[03:19] <bandit5432> type the nouveau.modeset=0 at the end and hit enter
[03:20] <tauren> bandit5432: know how to fix the "ubuntu" lone?
[03:20] <bandit5432> tauren, open up system settings
[03:21] <okee> I have selected "install Ubuntu", but have not selected the enter button.  No what? I still don't see a custom option when selecting F6, or anywhere else in the menu?  Were you thinking of Knome?  or KDE?
[03:21] <tauren> one thing i notice in 2D is that clicking a top menu icon doesn't keep the dropdown menu open. I have to hold my mouse button down to see and use the dropdown menu.
[03:21] <okee> Again I tried running it from disk, and it errors out indicating various ATA were down.
[03:21] <starlon> How do I build a custom kernel in Ubuntu?
[03:21] <starlon> Hmm never googled :)
[03:22] <okee> Where do you find the custom menu?  Is this available in both KDE?  Or just Gnome?
[03:22] <_r00t_> w0_: enable the bisigi and Faenza themes for a start ... Now I can't see where the others came from but there are a lot in synaptic or tweak
[03:22] <bandit5432> okee, hit f6 then hit escape
[03:22] <bandit5432> okee, then scroll up to install ubuntu
[03:22] <tauren> bandit5432: what should i do in system settings?
[03:22] <okee> ok.  Not it says I am leaving the graphical boot menu and starting the text mode interface.  Is that what I am supposed to do?
[03:23] <bandit5432> okee, no i didnt say hit enter :P
[03:23] <bandit5432> tauren, click on system info at the bottom
[03:23] <_r00t_> starlon: it's simple ... untar && make config && make -j5 && make modules_install && update_initramd && make install; done
[03:23] <okee> I didn't hit enter.
[03:23] <w0_> _r00t_ : will-do.  thanks!
[03:23] <Lance_> hello guys
[03:23] <okee> I think the option you want me to select, isn't available in the version of Ubuntu that is on my DVDRW.
[03:23] <bandit5432> okee, so is it booting or are you at the menu?
[03:23] <tauren> bandit5432: ok
[03:24] <bandit5432> okee, it is i am using the cd right now
[03:24] <bandit5432> tauren, click on graphics
[03:24] <Guest65704> guys, i wanted to ask, I want to triple boot, unix, windows xp and ubuntu
[03:24] <Guest65704> which order do i do it
[03:24] <Guest65704> which is the first one?
[03:24] <bandit5432> tauren,   whats it say under experiance ?
[03:24] <tauren> bandit5432: Driver - GeForce 9500 GT/PCI/SSE2, experience Standard
[03:25] <starlon> _r00t_: Thanks. :)
[03:25] <bandit5432> so are you running unity?
[03:25] <kints> hey how can i boot linux from usb ? i just stick the ISO on a usb drive?
[03:25] <Guest65704> kints, no
[03:25] <okee> WEll it started installing from disk in text mode, and again it stopped with errors.  However, the error messages were different this time.
[03:25] <Guest65704> you have to run
[03:25] <bandit5432> KingPin, unetbootin google it
[03:25] <Guest65704> startup disk creater
[03:25] <tauren> bandit5432: well, i have the icons down the left and the menu bar with the icons across the top. it looks the same as when I first upgraded to 11.10.
[03:25] <_r00t_> starlon: That was the condensed version ;) Good luck .... lots of HOWTOs on the net
[03:26] <bandit5432> tauren,   i would say you are in unity
[03:26] <tauren> bandit5432: i agree
[03:26] <kints> Guest65704: i think i putted the question wrong. I mean i want to install ubuntu from a usb stick
[03:26] <kints> so i need to boot the install from usb
[03:26] <kints> is there any startup disk creator for osx ?
[03:26] <bandit5432> kints, did you install to the usb drive like guest said with the startup disk creator?
[03:27] <bandit5432> kints use unetbootin
[03:27] <okee> I have returned to the Ubuntu install menu.  Currently the "install Ubuntu" is selected, but I haven't selected return.
[03:27] <okee> So what now?
[03:27] <tauren> bandit5432: but it doesn't behave the same... like i said, I have to hold my mouse button down for the dropdown menus to stay visible.
[03:27] <kints> bandit5432: thanks! i'll give it a try
[03:27] <starlon> _r00t_: kk
[03:27] <bandit5432> tauren,  you need to change the theme back to default in gnome-tweak
[03:28] <okee> F6 brings up the following options: 1) acpi=off, 2) noapic, 3) nolapic, 4) edd=on, 5) nodmraid, 6) nomodeset, 7) Free software only
[03:28] <bandit5432> sweet okee
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> kints: unetbootin runs on mac
[03:28] <bandit5432> now hit escape key okee
[03:28] <Jordan_U> kints: No. There are instructions for OSX at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download but it's highly recommended to use a CD instead if at all possible.
[03:28] <okee> So what do I do with this menu?  ubuntu still wont' run.....
[03:28] <bandit5432> okee, scroll back up to install ubuntu
[03:28] <bandit5432> dotn hit enter
[03:28] <okee> It is already there.  Now what.
[03:28] <tauren> bandit5432: the "shell theme" is empty with a warning ! next to it
[03:29] <okee> I haven't .
[03:29] <bandit5432> okee, does your screen say boot options?
[03:29] <cyrano_> i recently installed mint 11 and had the propietary nVidia drivers installed and was able to get compiz to work well and just the other day compiz stopped working all i see when i try to enalbe it is gray blocks all over everything and when i mouse over things the blocks move and new ones create and disapear any have any suggestions?
[03:29] <tauren> bandit5432: change the cursor theme, keybinding theme, icon theme, gtk+ theme, or window theme, or all of them?
[03:30] <bandit5432> tauren, change them to default
[03:30] <okee> My screen has a menu that has the following options: 1) Try Ubuntu without installing, 2) install Ubuntu, 3) Check disc for defects, 4) Test memory, 5) Boot from first hard disk.
[03:30] <okee> Thisis what I have.
[03:30] <bandit5432> okee now hit f6
[03:30] <okee> There is also a menu if I select F6, but not the options you requested.
[03:30] <tauren> bandit5432: ok, now the menus drop down and stay. but now they look less attractive too
[03:30] <bandit5432> tauren, you need to find themes that will work and thats beyound my knowledge
[03:31] <bandit5432> okee, hit esacpe
[03:31] <okee> F6 has: 1) acpi=off, 2) noapic, 3) nolapic, 4) edd=on, 5) nodmraid, 6) nomodeset, 7) Free software only.
[03:31] <tauren> bandit5432: ok. is there just a way to revert back to how things are configured after upgrading to 11.10?
[03:31] <bandit5432> then hit escape okee and move back up to install ubuntu
[03:31] <okee> ok, if you hit escape, I am then prompted to leave graphical boot menu and starting the text mode interface.  I tried that previously and it is no different.  ubuntu won't run.
[03:32] <okee> I am on the install menu.  Now what.
[03:32] <bandit5432> then type nouveau.modeset=0
[03:33] <bandit5432> tauren, i dont know i think you can delete files in your home directory let me look it up
[03:34] <bandit5432> tauren, open up a terminal and run unity --reset
[03:34] <bandit5432> okee, are you there?
[03:34] <tauren> bandit5432: ok, i'll give that a try. thanks for all your help!
[03:34] <bandit5432> tauren, no problem hope i helped
[03:34] <okee> I typed the command you said, and then hit enter, and it wouldn't install.  Got the same problem.
[03:35] <bandit5432> have you reset your bios to defaults okee ??
[03:35] <okee> I have reinstalled the linux boot disk, and I am back to the same place "Install Ubuntu".  Again I have typed noveau.modeset=0
[03:35] <okee> bios was reset to defaults.
[03:35] <tauren> bandit5432: very much so, thanks!
[03:35] <bandit5432> tauren, your welcome
[03:36] <bandit5432> okee, does it say any where on your screen boot options?
[03:36] <okee> I am wondering if I should erase the line before entering the noveau.modeset=0  ??
[03:36] <bandit5432> dont delete the boot=casper part
[03:38] <bandit5432> okee, that will give you an error
[03:38] <okee> At the bottom of the screen, in a horizontal type, it says "Boot options eed boot=caspaer only-ubiquity initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet spalzh--
[03:38] <bandit5432> hit space and type nouveau.modeset=0
[03:39] <bandit5432> then hit enter
[03:39] <joapuipe> hi!
[03:40] <bandit5432> hello
[03:40] <bandit5432> okee, what did it do?
[03:41] <joapuipe> I written a server that I would run as daemon. The program reads some files in UTF8 and it seems that there is some problem with the locales used when the programs are launched in the start of the system.
[03:41] <okee> I think we are making progress.  A screen popped up that says Ubuntu 11.10
[03:42] <bandit5432> we hope we hope
[03:42] <Jordan_U> kints: If you decide to go with a CD (again highly recommended) make sure you use the +mac image. If you go with USB then do *not* use the +mac image.
[03:42] <bandit5432> does it have the little dots under it okee ??
[03:42] <joapuipe> I tried to set my LC_ALL variable manually in the init.d/ script
[03:42] <harsh343> where is system administration in ubuntu 11.10
[03:42] <harsh343> ??
[03:42] <okee> yes
[03:42] <joapuipe> and when my program starts within setlocale(LC_ALL, en_US.utf8)
[03:42] <bandit5432> harsh343,  gone its in the menu now
[03:42] <okee> It is installing. It is working.
[03:42] <prueba> hola
[03:42] <joapuipe> but, nothing...
[03:42] <prueba> una pregunta
[03:43] <harsh343> bandit5432, where is menu ?
[03:43] <bandit5432> or you can click on your name in the right menu and click system settings buts its not the same
[03:43] <joapuipe> Anyone knows how to set the locale to utf8 when starting a daemon?
[03:43] <bandit5432> harsh343, welcome to unity!
[03:43] <harsh343> where is unity ?
[03:43] <bandit5432> it is unity no menu any more
[03:44] <bandit5432> you have the icons on the left side of screen harsh343 ??
[03:44] <harsh343> yes
[03:44] <Jordan_U> harsh343: Menu at top right of the screen then System Settings.
[03:44] <bandit5432> harsh343,  you might like this link as well http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[03:45] <harsh343> i got the system setting in meny
[03:45] <harsh343> menu*
[03:45] <bandit5432> okee, is it still working
[03:45] <harsh343> bandit5432, actually i want to start my services mysql
[03:45] <harsh343> now what next ?
[03:46] <okee> ok.  Now I am trying to figure out how to resize the disk, so that I have dual boot.  I am presented with 1) /dev/sda1 ntfs 341mb (size), 2) /dev/sda2 ntfs 728744mb, 3) /dev/sda3 ntfs 15724 mb
[03:46] <bandit5432> harsh343,  then you need to install bootup-manager
[03:46] <bandit5432> or another service starter
[03:46] <bandit5432> you can also start mysqld from the terminal
[03:47] <leo2007> how to know what's listening on port 4005?
[03:47] <okee> Should I create a new partition?
[03:47] <bandit5432> okee, are you dual booting?
[03:47] <okee> yes
[03:47] <harsh343> bandit5432, actually my sql is not working on my system right now, got an error ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:47] <okee> with win 7.  I wish it was win xp 640bit, but I can't find a disk.
[03:48] <bandit5432> okee, win xp 64 wont work on that computer
[03:48] <okee> This is a 64-bit system.  Why wouldn't it work?
[03:48] <bandit5432> okee,  you need to ask some one else about partioning
[03:48] <okee> ok.  Thanks for your help.
[03:48] <bandit5432> okee, windows xp 64 was sudo 64 and it did not have any drivers
[03:48] <bandit5432> trust me with that rig it would not work
[03:49] <okee> I am aware of the driver problem.
[03:49] <harsh343> when i run this command sudo apt-get install bootup-manager my output is  sudo apt-get install bootup-manager
[03:49] <jianchen> #twisted
[03:50] <harsh343> E: Unable to locate package bootup-manager
[03:50] <bandit5432> harsh343, try apt-get install bum
[03:50] <bandit5432> leo2007, try netstat -A
[03:50] <harsh343> command not found
[03:50] <bandit5432> sudo apt-get install bum
[03:51] <harsh343> ok
[03:51] <kints> ty m8s
[03:51] <harsh343> installed now next ?
[03:51] <bandit5432> find it in the menu and edit your services
[03:52] <bandit5432> or search for it under dash
[03:53] <harsh343> i search services in dash but not show
[03:54] <bandit5432> search for boot manager or bum
[03:54] <bandit5432> i dont use unity so i cant tell you how to find it in the menu that way
[03:55] <harsh343> I got boot up manager
[03:59] <Guest72703> #pboost
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> i don't mean to start a flood, but when it's quiet people with pending questions should ask again(if they have not asked recently of course)
[04:03] <anacrolix> great news everybody! http://polldaddy.com/poll/5642372/
[04:03] <johnjohn101> anacrolix: why is that good news?
[04:03] <peeps[lappy]> anyone here using xchat and gnome3?
[04:03] <pnorman> aeon-ltd: Well, it didn't start a flood
[04:04] <aeon-ltd> peeps[lappy]: proceed to ask your actual question
[04:04] <_r00t_> peeps[lappy]: Most of these nerds use xchat
[04:05] <pp7> in 11.10 how do u stop the gnome terminal exit warning?
[04:06] <pnorman> Since it's quiet, anyone have any suggestions for a decent PCIe SATA card with reasonable ubuntu support. Not after a hardware RAID card
[04:06] <peeps[lappy]> in previous versions xchat had a tray icon that would blink when my nick was highlighted, this was visible in the gnome panel at the top by default.  now in gnome 3, there is a xchat icon in some bottom autohiding bar that only shows when you mouse to the lower right of the screen.  this makes visual alerts useless when i have to go searching for it in the first place
[04:06] <aeon-ltd> pp7: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1143627
[04:06] <pp7> will
[04:06] <pp7> aeon-ltd: yea i tried that
[04:07] <peeps[lappy]> so my question is how can i get a usable visual alert for xchat again
[04:07] <pp7> the option isnt there
[04:07] <weirdpercent> My sound cards are suddenly not being recognized by the systen. I got some hardware profilers to print reports so I have the specs, where does the sound card get loaded in the boot process?
[04:08] <Mesto> hi world
[04:08] <ooph> retarded and/or flamebait question, i know... but is there a quick and easy way to get rid of Unity and get a desktop that looks and feels like "Ubuntu Classic"? I've grown quite found of a desktop interface that doesn't make me fight my system to get anything useful accomplished.
[04:09] <weirdpercent> ooph, try linux mint
[04:09] <peeps[lappy]> hmm, i have "xchat" installed, maybe the xchat-gnome is better integrated in gnome3, i will try that and see if it's any better
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> ooph: using classic?
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> !classic | ooph
[04:09] <ooph> aeon-ltd: not available in 11.10 ?
[04:10] <ooph> !notunity
[04:10] <aeon-ltd> pp7: not the greatest solution but if there is really something you need from gnome-terminal you could just use another term
[04:10] <pp7> hah
[04:11] <_r00t_> !notubuntu
[04:11] <csdserver> !spoon
[04:11] <_r00t_> :( disappointing
[04:11] <ooph> hmm. that might be just the thing. I mostly miss being able to have system monitor in the panel, but i also hate the new applications interface and dock-style whatever-it-is that is always getting in my way - unless i'm looking for something, in which case it's *useless* and getting in my way.
[04:11] <ooph> _r00t_: what would you recommend, sir?
[04:12] <_r00t_> ooph: pinguy OS 11.04 - perfect for gnome 2 + compiz
[04:13]  * _r00t_ is using it at the moment on my laptop pingEEE 32bit with PAE on my notebook rips. Desktop 64bit pinguy os
[04:14] <ooph> pinguy looks like it still has the dock thingies, and the "menu bar from the current application is the one at the top of the screen" retardedness. those are (mainly) what i'm trying to avoid...
[04:14] <ooph> I would also like to point out that I'm not stuck on an ubuntu-based distro, or even a debian-based one.
[04:15] <Mesto> anyone had trouble with voiping from empathy to google voice plugin?
[04:16] <weirdpercent> I tried ubuntu, mint, and pinguy
[04:16] <Mesto> I imagine the restricted codecs are necessary?
[04:16] <ooph> i guess pretty much every distro is stuck on some sort of user-hating vendetta against normalcy and sanity, then.
[04:16] <weirdpercent> I settled on mint
[04:16] <_r00t_> ooph: I'm a shell guy... Don't know anything about WM - Fluxbox is my best friend but I found pinguy gave me all the tools I needed to understand how desktops work
[04:16] <bobweaver> Hello there I am trying to install bzr and am having python troubles error is bzr : Depends: python-bzrlib (<= 2.4.1-1ubuntu1.1~) but 2.4.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed Recommends: bzrtools but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[04:16] <weirdpercent> mint is a good base to customize as you like
[04:17] <robin0800> _r00t_, I like gnome3 and compiz
[04:17]  * bobweaver installing python-bzrlib
[04:18] <_r00t_> robin0800: gnome3 and compiz don't mix #fail
[04:18] <weirdpercent> there's even reconstructorsys to roll your own custom distro.
[04:18] <bobweaver>  reconstructorsys  cool like remastersys ?
[04:18] <weirdpercent> that's what I meant yea
[04:19] <bobweaver> still in Depends heck
[04:19] <bobweaver> I thought that bazzar would install easy :>(
[04:19] <johnnyzero> ok I am back. I decided to upgrade to Lubuntu 11.10 and see if I can solve this Input Device problem. There must be a reason my USB Mic isn't being recognized in 11.10 but it is recognized in 10.10.
[04:20] <weirdpercent> ooph, what kind of interface do you want?
[04:20] <bobweaver> arrghh I want to checkout :>)
[04:20] <peeps[lappy]> is it possible to configure(add/remove items from) the gnome 3 panel?
[04:21] <bobweaver> peeps[lappy]:  alacarte and /usr/share/applications
[04:21] <bobweaver> I think menu is under ~/.locoal/menu
[04:21] <bobweaver> something like that
[04:22] <starlon> Anyone know what a good +5v value is? Mine's 6.32.
[04:22] <peeps[lappy]> bobweaver, not the menu, the panel
[04:22] <starlon> +12v I mean.
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: is it muted in alsamixer?
[04:23] <peeps[lappy]> bobweaver, i'd like to know if i can add a ssytem tray to the top panel for example
[04:24] <_r00t_> starlon ? What do you mean : motherboard voltages ?
[04:24] <pnorman> starlon: I'd guess a good +12v value would be 12v
[04:24] <weirdpercent> I had problems with bazzar integration...
[04:24] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, it doesn't even see it in Alsamixer
[04:25] <johnnyzero> It does but not as a capture device
[04:25] <_r00t_> starlon: Here are mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/728789/
[04:25] <johnnyzero> I will show you a screenshot of my findings
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: boot without it plugged in and log in. When the OS has settled, plug in the device, wait 10 seconds then run:  dmesg | tail -n 10     it may give clues
[04:25] <johnnyzero> alright
[04:25] <johnnyzero> I will try that
[04:25] <pnorman> _r00t_: What are you using to capture that info?
[04:26] <_r00t_> sensors | write pnorman
[04:26] <johnnyzero> act
[04:26] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, I will first show you what it says now
[04:26] <johnnyzero> Just in case it yields different results after reboot
[04:27]  * _r00t_ waits patiently for centos to download :/
[04:27] <_r00t_> !yum
[04:27] <Sypher> sup guys
[04:27] <pnorman> Ah, my sensors doesn't have nearly that much info
[04:27] <johnnyzero> these are the current results ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/Pf3tCVC5
[04:27] <johnnyzero> Now to reboot and unplug
[04:28] <weirdpercent> my question is at what point in the boot process do the PCI cards get read because my sound cards used to work, and now they're not showing up in pulseaudio!
[04:28] <bobweaver> peeps[lappy]: take a look into /etc/xdg/menus
[04:28] <Sypher> you guys hear about Bodhi linux?
[04:28] <_r00t_> pnorman: yep varies from machine to machine
[04:28] <bobweaver> !ubottu source
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Sypher: its not supported here
[04:29] <_r00t_> !rpm
[04:29] <Mesto> What about bodhi?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> if its not a release by Canonical, it's not supported hee
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> *here
[04:29] <Sypher> Oh..sorry
[04:29] <Mesto> Sypher: What about it?
[04:30] <supajerm> anyone else having issues with I/O errors on harddrives |  3.0.0-13-generic #22-Ubuntu | everything works fine for awhile, then suddenly the hdd basically just doesn't show anymore
[04:30] <Sypher> its pretty cool
[04:30] <Sypher> its a really small distro based on Ubuntu's 10.04 LTS version
[04:30] <Sypher> its like Puppy, but better.
[04:31] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, here is the current pastebin: http://pastebin.com/HaeSFT9a
[04:31] <johnnyzero> as per your instructions
[04:33] <weirdpercent> Sypher so basically its puppylinux with an Enlightenment interface?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: ok, what apps have you tried the mic in?
[04:34] <johnnyzero> skype
[04:34] <Sypher> well it isnt Puppylinx, but its small, very lightweight like Puppylinux.
[04:34] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, would it help if I showed you output from the 10.10 live install to know what my current install might be lacking?
[04:35] <johnnyzero> Perhaps run some commands VIA that and put the output on pastebin
[04:35] <Sypher> and it is based off of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.
[04:36] <Sypher> i tried to install it today, but my hardware must not be compatible.
[04:36] <ooph> Is there a way to get Gnome2 back, using Ubuntu 11.11? I would very much like for my computer to feel useful again, instead of feeling like a tablet without a touchscreen.
[04:36] <root__> hi
[04:37] <supajerm> Harddrive I/O error (internal sata), not sure what other info i could provide, but heres what ive seen thusfar:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/728793/  if anyone could help id appreciate it
[04:37] <Sypher> Ooph, im not to sure but when i installed Gnome back on 11.11 it did not look the same anymore.
[04:37] <urlin2u> Sypher, it is a good os if you can run ubutu you will run bidhi.
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: compare the dmesg output first, see if its different.
[04:37] <starlon> _r00t_: Wow, I guess my power supply is probably going to die soon? heh
[04:37] <urlin2u> ubuntu*
[04:37] <Sypher> i think it's the Live Installer, ubuntu you can install without having to login LIVE.
[04:37] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, alright let me go onto Ubuntu 10.10 and run that exact command and pastebin it
[04:38] <johnnyzero> We can then compare it
[04:38] <Sypher> with Bodhi, u must login live in order to install.
[04:38] <weirdpercent> ooph: I still say try linux mint
[04:38] <Sypher> ooph: i would say switch to 10.04 LTS.
[04:39] <Sypher> gnome will be around for a log time on 10.04
[04:39] <ooph> Why are Ubuntu users are expected to transition from something they may like and appreciate to a complete new design every six months?
[04:39] <supajerm> change the 6 to a 2, and ask google the same question?
[04:40] <Sypher> some people like the latest software
[04:40] <Sypher> and some people like stability
[04:40] <urlin2u> ooph, that is not exactly true gnome 2 was there from the beginning until natty, so the six moth turn around usualy looks the same bqsically
[04:40] <jiltdil> ooph: this is just the way to develop new stable ubuntu LTS version :)
[04:41] <Sypher> ooph: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is by far one of my favorite ubuntu distros.
[04:41] <Sypher> it uses Gnome 2 as default as well.
[04:41] <|||||||||> hello Ubuntu
[04:41] <weirdpercent> honestly, I did not like Unity. I did not like Gnome Shell. I like Gnome Panel and Compiz and Cairo Dock
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Sypher: Ubuntu is the distro, its just an earlier release ;)
[04:42] <Sypher> true
[04:42] <ubuntu64bit> jiltdil: exactly what i was gonna say some people want to see if it works and what bugs are
[04:42] <ooph> Sypher: switching to LTS would simply delay the inevitable craptastic change for another 6 months - what do I do then? It seems to me to be more useful to figure out how to force Ubuntu to act the way I want it to, the way it *used* to, so that I can make that change to each upgrade (assuming I stick with Canonical, despite it feeling like they want to kick me in the face all the time).
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> ooph: LTS is supported 3 years on the desktop
[04:42] <Sypher> ooph: the next update for LTS is in 2 years.
[04:42] <Sypher> or 3
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> next LTS is next year in April
[04:43] <ooph> next year, in april... so, 12.04 ?
[04:43] <Sypher> i dont think they will reject gnome2 though, or will they?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> yes
[04:43] <Auckla> Well gentlemen. I am ZenMaster Also.
[04:43] <weirdpercent> I installed linux mint because I had to many problems with the 11.1 classic
[04:43] <Auckla> I tossed that old machine.
[04:43] <ooph> in other words, in 5 months.
[04:43] <Auckla> And built a new one. I don't know what it was that was not making it take a install of anything,
[04:43] <_r00t_> starlon: heh :)
[04:43] <Auckla> So this machine is currently half the hardware but three times the storage.
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> weirdpercent: mint has a tiny community compared to Ubuntu's
[04:44] <_r00t_> starlon: or it could be bad sensor readings
[04:44] <Auckla> Runs quiet, and best of all, it runs.,
[04:44] <amatuer> how to flood IRC on Linux ???
[04:44] <Sypher> amatuer: lol.
[04:45] <Sypher> Linus Torvalds said he hates Unity.
[04:45] <Sypher> or maybe that is a rumor
[04:45] <|||||||||> Is there a flooding program forLinux yet int he repositories? or an easy deb?
[04:46] <Stanley00> Sypher: where đi you hear about that?
[04:46] <Sypher> on google.
[04:46] <Sypher> but, dont hold me against it. it might be a rumor.
[04:46] <amatuer> what's keyword :D
[04:46] <Auckla> amatuer: ?
[04:46] <ooph> linus uses xfce
[04:46] <ooph> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linus-ditches-kde-and-gnome-so-what
[04:47] <Auckla> Anyone read what linus had to say about c++?
[04:47] <Sypher> No. if you know then share.
[04:48] <weirdpercent> ActionParsnip: if you compare mint to ubuntu yes , ubuntu dwarfs the linux mint community
[04:48] <pdkl> Auckla: yeah, c++ sucks, ever since the mad meta programmers taken over, its been made into a damn mess
[04:48] <Sypher> i like Python for its simplicity.
[04:48] <Auckla> pdkl: Just took the cake. :)
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> weirdpercent: could install LXDE or XFCE and use your Gnome apps there and get the great support from the Ubuntu community :)
[04:48] <Sypher> but i do not program.
[04:48] <_r00t_> weirdpercent: ubuntu has the biggest community so why is let down by poor quality builds /
[04:49] <Sypher> Toyota gave the linux foundation $100,000
[04:49] <Sypher> very big help.
[04:50] <An-iSociaL> can anyone help with iptables?
[04:50] <An-iSociaL> i dont understand a single thing about it
[04:50] <An-iSociaL> i want to configure inside and outside
[04:50] <_r00t_> An-iSociaL: shoot
[04:50] <urlin2u> _r00t_, can you name one thing in the world that any group is happy with?
[04:50] <|||||||||> An-iSociaL, yes just use MoBlocker
[04:50] <An-iSociaL> "if network is not 10.1.10.0 and connection is incoming and port not equal to 80 then deny"
[04:50] <_r00t_> urlin2u: pornhub :)
[04:50] <Sypher> What do you guys think about CentOS?
[04:51] <weirdpercent> ActionParsnip: I tried lubuntu, xubuntu, neither of those were right for me. linux mint's repositories can blend with ubuntu's without too much trouble
[04:51] <_r00t_> Sypher: liek
[04:51] <urlin2u> _r00t_, that is an answer that shows thta it is not possible eh. :D
[04:51] <urlin2u> that*
[04:51] <_r00t_> urlin2u: ;)
[04:51] <msqrdstr> hey all. i set a keybinding in metacity via gconf-editor to Ctrl-p, and later set it to something else. now Ctrl-p fails to do anything (e.g. doesn't open a print window in chrome, doesn't flip to the previous window in irssi).
[04:51] <|||||||||> "Mintuntu"
[04:51] <msqrdstr> for the life of me, i can't figure out what to _un_set to make ctrl-p functional again.
[04:52] <msqrdstr> i have tried resetting others keys -- i've only changed the one keybinding -- and googling for default bindings... but no luck.
[04:52] <msqrdstr> any ideas?
[04:52] <ooph> Sypher: CEntOS 6 may be where I am headed to get out of Unity/Gnome3 hell.
[04:53] <An-iSociaL> MoBlocker
[04:53] <An-iSociaL> i have no such
[04:53] <_r00t_> msqrdstr: what windows manager are you using ?
[04:53] <pdkl> ooph: try slackware
[04:53] <pdkl> its been here since day one almost
[04:53] <weirdpercent> Moboloquer
[04:53] <Sypher> slackware is very advanced. i am too noob for slackware at the moment.
[04:53] <ooph> yeah, i started hating slackware 14 years ago.
[04:53] <msqrdstr> _r00t_: default; gnome
[04:53] <_r00t_> ooph: Come to pinguy OS you'll be warmly welcomed :)
[04:53] <szal> pdkl: Slackware has officially dropped Gnome support long time ago
[04:54] <pdkl> szal, yeah, made me happy.
[04:54] <_r00t_> msqrdstr: do you have compiz running too ?
[04:54] <ooph> pdkl: I want to find something that will let me STOP fighting with my machine to do basic things :)
[04:54] <jiltdil> Sypher: ubuntu is also for beginners
[04:54] <Sypher> i use ubuntu.
[04:54] <weirdpercent> pinguy was pretty good
[04:54] <pnorman> Anyone know how I'd go about setting up a printer that prints to file on my server and sharing it to my windows machine?
[04:54] <|||||||||> Moblocker is automatic, runs great, and looks *real* sharp.
[04:54] <pdkl> ooph: try a mac?
[04:54] <_r00t_> jiltdil: ubuntu is also for very lazy sys admins like me
[04:54] <An-iSociaL> sigh
[04:55] <An-iSociaL> well atleast i feel better im not the only one who doesnt understand iptables
[04:55] <jiltdil> _r00t_ Right :) I bascially use fedora nd BT
[04:55] <An-iSociaL> tried webwin
[04:55] <ooph> pdkl: soory, no. I'm not scheduled for my lobotomy until end of next year... maybe at that point i'll reconsider.
[04:55] <An-iSociaL> its just as confusing
[04:55] <|||||||||> i am only a good user of Ubuntu
[04:55] <ooph> webmin is awful
[04:55] <An-iSociaL> also tried fwbuilder
[04:55] <jiltdil> _r00t_ But using ubuntu is a fun
[04:55] <msqrdstr> _r00t_: i've never messed with my wm, so if it's running by default, yes; how can i check?
[04:55] <An-iSociaL> still dont get it
[04:56] <_r00t_> An-iSociaL: what have you got so far ? - pastebin your iptables -L
[04:56] <An-iSociaL> where is the flag "incoming connection"?
[04:56] <An-iSociaL> i have nothing so far
[04:56] <weirdpercent> what about ailurus and ubuntutweak?
[04:56] <An-iSociaL> every time i add something its wrong and blocks all traffic
[04:56] <ooph> An-iSociaL: try using http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/
[04:57] <pdkl> ooph: i dont like unity either
[04:57] <Sypher> I have used Ubuntu for a long time and thinking of switching to CentOS just to try something new for a while.
[04:57] <_r00t_> nice one ooph - now that is iptables for the lazy
[04:57] <ooph> An-iSociaL: It comments the heck out of what it's doing, making a secure start and making modificiation easier than trying to use the man pages and start from scratch
[04:57] <pdkl> Sypher: try slackware ;)
[04:57] <weirdpercent> There's Mobloquer, Firestarer, Gufw, all IPTables frontends
[04:57] <|||||||||> I feel it should be Linux law that *all* programs be easily available as deb files.
[04:58] <ooph> modification* . bleh, my typoist needs slapped.
[04:58] <Geoffrey2> I'm running ubuntu in command line on a laptop, I installed a usb multi-card reader, and lsusb shows it, how do I determine if it's mounted, or what I would need to mount in order to gain access to it?
 Study ufw from ubuntu documentation. It is better to study first
[04:58] <Sypher> is slackware for advanced linux users?
[04:58] <Sypher> i am not that advanced to be honest.
[04:58] <ooph> Sypher: no, slackware is for masochists
[04:58] <pdkl> dunno, its all basic to me
[04:58] <An-iSociaL> thanks ooph, im reading the output script
[04:58] <Sypher> lol
[04:58] <msqrdstr> anyone have a clue re: keybindings?
[04:58] <An-iSociaL> thats the backup plan jiltdil, i really just need to know what determines "incoming connection"
[04:58] <An-iSociaL> or "service"
[04:58] <An-iSociaL> or w./e
[04:59] <_r00t_> ok guys .... name the best distro you've used which lasted you the longest .... Mines Redhat 6.2 zoot which is still running today
[04:59] <|||||||||> If you goto the Moblocker page, and just copy and paste everything into thte terminal, it will work. I have no idea what I am copying and pasting.
[04:59] <pdkl> Sypher: you can always go on the web and read
[04:59] <ooph> _r00t_: I've been using Ubuntu for the last 4 years.
[04:59] <Sypher> I like ubuntu, works well and i never had a problem with it. and i learned many things using it.
[05:00] <Sypher> i did not know what a GUI truly was until i installed ubuntu.
[05:00] <Sypher> and CLI
[05:00] <ooph> i liked ubuntu... it worked well out of the box, and made my life easy in the "getting things to run" department. Unity changed all that, and made my life hell.
[05:00] <msqrdstr> _r00t_, have any ideas?
[05:00] <ooph> I'm currently running XP64 while looking for a new *nix distro
 Did u look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[05:00] <_r00t_> Sypher: PMSL ! so true !
[05:01] <Sypher> when ubuntu 11.11 came out i switched to 10.04 lts and so far so good
[05:01] <Sypher> hope it remains this way
[05:01] <weirdpercent> Geoffrey2: There's a project called libusb
[05:01] <|||||||||> For anyone interested in seeing a Linux broadcast, I have "Webcamstudio" running right now at Blogtv.com/people/analyzingfunny. Really nice program and I am currently broadcasting my desktop and this chat.
[05:01] <Sypher> sweet.
[05:01] <|||||||||> yup
[05:01] <Sypher> i will check it out
[05:01] <|||||||||> all green on black too!
[05:02] <jiltdil> Guys use ubuntu 11.10 and helps the community to fix bugs, report bugs. Don't switch back to previos versions
[05:02] <An-iSociaL> yea the how to is worse than the man page for iptables
[05:02] <weirdpercent> Geoffrey2: It's cross platform and you can use it to connect to just about any usb device
[05:02] <An-iSociaL> i just simply dont get it
[05:02] <_r00t_> msqrdstr: sorry dude ... I was thinking along the lines of compiz bindings eg gconftool-2 --set /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_all_k
[05:02] <_r00t_> ey --type string Super_L
[05:02] <pdkl> ooph: it was really gnome 3 + unity.  gnome 3 has been a disappointment
[05:02] <pdkl> but on the other hand
[05:02] <pdkl> xfce is lovely
[05:02] <ooph> ugh.... how can you read like that? too much transparency
[05:02] <_r00t_> nawww my first ubuntu I used fluxbox on it and loved it
[05:03] <Sypher> unity is very heavy, on 10.04 i boot up at 130mb on UNity i was over 300
[05:04] <jiltdil> Sypher: They are moving to more graphical so going heavy
[05:04] <An-iSociaL> well thanks atleast for making me feel better
[05:04] <Stanley00> mine is over 1G now, and about 800MB before :))
[05:04] <An-iSociaL> laters
[05:04] <ooph> Funny you should mention that... I swiched to Linux because Windows was getting too bloated... now Linux is just as bad...
[05:04] <Sypher> not exactly Ooph, have you heard of Bodhi Linux?
[05:05] <Sypher> it seems like your style.
[05:05] <Sypher> www.bodhilinux.com
[05:05] <Sypher> give it a look
[05:05] <ooph> their website is unreadable without javascript enabled - immediate fail.
[05:05] <pdkl> steve jobs created unity in a weekend!
[05:05] <Sypher> i tried it, and booted up at 80 mb
[05:05] <ubuntu> Hi guys, I'm on a dual boot system. Win 7 repair crushed grub in the boot sector. I'm currently running ubuntu on a live CD. Please help on how to get grub to recognize all my previous systems installed... thanks
[05:05] <_r00t_> wow bodhi looks nice ... can you use compositing with it ?
[05:06] <Don_Rad> hi all, im using ubuntu 11.10 gnome shell on a dell inspiron 1545 laptop, i like to enable alt+tab key to switch windows and i think is disable on gnome shell, any idea to make it work? thanks :D
[05:06] <Sypher> yes root.
[05:06] <Sypher> u can
[05:06] <Sypher> super lightweight, but at the same time very stylish.
[05:07] <_r00t_> Sypher: you got to be kidding me ? I thought enlightenment did like compiz
[05:07] <jiltdil> Wht not u guys prefer Arch Linux?
[05:07] <celltech> gnome 2d  how do I get rid of this annoying slide side bar feature? or do I have to revert back to orniginal
[05:07] <_r00t_> jiltdil: PMSL Arch linux is for snobs who THINK they know linux
[05:08] <Sypher> i tried to install arch and failed.
[05:08] <tensorpudding> !ot | jiltdil
[05:08] <ooph> ubuntu: you will need to reinstall grub. I recommend a lot of reading before playing with your bootsector.
[05:08] <starlon> Does the live CD happen to have an MBR repair utility?
[05:09] <ubuntu> ooph, I found this page. Please let me know if it makes sense http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[05:09] <Auckla> Wow I am on a 100mbit network. And I just trahsfered 28megs at like 350k's a second.
[05:09] <_r00t_> starlon: you could try to do a grub-install from the livecd
[05:09] <Auckla> That is not right, via samba. Windows Seven to Ubuntu Linux.
[05:09] <starlon> _r00t_: k
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> starlon: sure, you can chroot from the liveCD and fix grub on the installed OS
[05:09] <ooph> ubuntu: what version of Ubuntu were you running before reinstalling Windows?
[05:09] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, there is clearly a large difference
[05:10] <johnnyzero> I have laid it out in this
[05:10] <starlon> ActionParsnip: thanks
[05:10] <johnnyzero> http://pastebin.com/dJZwLNCV
[05:10] <starlon> I think I recall how now.
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: difference to what?
[05:10] <_r00t_> starlon: ActionParsnip has the better solution ;)
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: oh the mic thing
[05:10] <starlon> _r00t_: :)
[05:10] <johnnyzero> yes
[05:10] <_r00t_> think I'll download bohdi
[05:11] <_r00t_> i386 only ? :/ Guess I could roll my own
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: i'd see what: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd mtp-probe rqt 128 rq 6 len 1024 ret -110      is
[05:11] <stephni> hello please can brasero be used to burn system rescue iso on ubuntu?
[05:11] <ubuntu> ooph, no I didn't reinstall windows. I just went in recovery environment by mistake. I was running 11.04 ooph
[05:11] <Sypher> bodhi has trouble installing on my desktop.
[05:11] <Sypher> which sucks :(
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> stephni: sure, just right click the ISO and open it with brasero
[05:12] <starlon> What's bodhi?
[05:12] <zmy> hello
[05:12] <stephni> ok
[05:12] <Sypher> a linux distro
[05:12] <tensorpudding> bodhi is off-topic here
[05:12] <starlon> k
[05:12] <_r00t_> Sypher: that's the thing ... pingeee - perfect on my notebook - nightmare on my desktop.
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> Sypher: bodhi isn't supported here
[05:13] <Sypher> i know, i just offered some help to someone who was looking for a OS without hogging ram.
[05:13] <_r00t_> too much h8in bodhi here ;o
[05:13] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, I googled it. Came up with nothing.
[05:13] <ooph> ActionParsnip: don't be a jerkwad, the whole point of linux is to be free and open. if ubuntu can't tolerate a little competition, then there's obviously something wrong with it, no?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Sypher: ask in #bodhilinux   right here no freenode
[05:14] <okee> ok.  I now have an error message indicating that the bootloader install failed, and I am being given some options: 1) continue without a bootloader, 2) cancel the installation, 3) chose a different device to install the bootloader on.  What do I do?
[05:14] <Sypher> i was only offering help
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> ooph: its the channel policy, nothing to do with being  'jerkwad'.
[05:14] <ubuntu> ooph, did you get my message?
[05:14] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, At least we do know somewhat, the problem. In 11.10 there is an issue with how the devices are being found. The probing is faulty for some reason.
[05:15] <r3r4z3r> exit
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> ooph: none of the ubuntu spinoffs are supported here, they have their own channels for support
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: I suggest you report a regression bug. My sound troubleshooting ability is basic at best
[05:15] <dr_willis> okee got a spare flashdrive? i tend to keep a backup grub setup on one for each box
[05:16] <okee> I am trying to install Ubuntu and need help.  I am half way through the installation and getting an error message, adivising that the bootloader install failed, and I am being given some options: 1) continue without a bootloader, 2) cancel the installation, 3) chose a different device to install the bootloader on.  What do I do?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: what you have is valuable though, maybe others can help but definately paste the text in your bug (not the pastebin link as they eventually expire)
[05:16] <ooph> ActionParsnip: I didn't say you needed to support it. Getting cheesed because someone mentioned a distro other than vanilla ubuntu indicates a problem with ubuntu. if you're paranoid about your distro's perceived issues, then your distro sucks.
[05:16] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, Understood. I was actually already told to "wait for a fix" though waiting for me is annoying. I am rather impatient.
[05:16] <johnnyzero> Though ok I will submit this to launchpad?
[05:17] <johnnyzero> Is that where it goes?
[05:17] <ubuntu> oh gosh! The solar flares are flaring people's feelings today!
[05:17] <|||||||||> okee first step dont panic. Feel confident that these are trained professionals here to help you.
[05:17] <ubuntu> guys, relax!
[05:17] <Sypher> does it count as it being off topic if Bodhi is based on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: could use maverick, its still very supported
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> !bug | johnnyzero
[05:18] <Aleo> hi ppl
[05:18] <johnnyzero> alright
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> Sypher: yes, there are LOADS of dumb ubuntu spinoffs, none are supported here
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate
[05:18] <okee> I am trying to install Ubuntu and need help.  I am half way through the installation and getting an error message, adivising that the bootloader install failed, and I am being given some options: 1) continue without a bootloader, 2) cancel the installation, 3) chose a different device to install the bootloader on.  What do I do?
[05:18]  * _r00t_ is with Sypher 
[05:18] <dr_willis> okee got a spare flashdrive? i tend to keep a backup grub setup on one for each box
[05:19] <|||||||||> somsip, you are sayin *not * to just keep using 10.10 like I do? I thought I could keep my 10.10 look, but upgrade to the lastest fixes?
[05:19] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, I know for a fact it is not a problem with Lubuntu in particular as the Unity edition has the same exact issue.
[05:19] <ubuntu> okee sorry I wish I could help you but I am not very good
[05:19] <johnnyzero> So I do have that much information
[05:19] <ubuntu> okee what version are you trying to install?
[05:19] <gr0uch> okee: try a different device to install boot loader
[05:19] <ooph> There are some Ubuntu derivatives that are not worth supporting due to incomprehensible changes forced on the users by Shuttleworth. Examples: any Ubuntu version after 10.04
[05:19] <okee> Dr. Willis.> I am a first time installer.
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: its probably the alsa stuff, or the kernel detecting the hardware
[05:19] <johnnyzero> Ahh understood
[05:19] <Aleo> try a different device yes
[05:19] <Sypher> ooph: Lol.
[05:19] <Aleo> if it fails cancel
[05:20] <okee> I don't know which device to install to.  Win 7 came installed by default, and I am trying to dual boot.  I was hoping to avoid damaging the Win 7 installation.
[05:20] <okee> I guess I could reinstall Win 7 if the linux distro eats its space.
[05:20] <ooph> okee: be careful with adjusting partitions, but installing "side by side" should do what you want it to.
[05:20] <Sypher> there is an option at boot up to install along side with win7
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> okee: I'd continue without, then boot to live CD and you can install the boot loader there, you could take the option to install the bootloader to a different drive (assuming yuo have more than one)
[05:21] <okee> Ubuntu's installer is a bit primitive.  Sambayon and Gentoo allow you a sliding partition installer, so you don't have to worry about damaging something already installed.
[05:22] <ubuntu> okee, are you trying to install ubuntu alongside windows on same hard drive?
[05:22] <ooph> gentoo allows you to spend a full day on the installation process before getting to use your "optimized" system. I don't see the point in gaining a fraction of a percent of performance by spending hours and hours on any software install.
[05:22] <ooph> Sabayon was nice, a few years ago. Is it still around?
[05:22] <zmy_> hello
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> okee: the resizing partition stuff is also in Ubuntu
[05:22] <ubuntu> yes choose other option okee
[05:23] <Rrandy> Hello, thanks for any help in advance.  I'm trying to use evolution to connect to my work 2010 exchange server - Is there a way to connect with activesync?
[05:24] <_r00t_> OMG Rrandy ... buy a new phone !
[05:24] <Aleo> by the way, any clue why the print screen only captures the background ?
[05:24] <ooph> Rrandy: exchange is actively hostile to non-microsoft clients. use OWA or skip the whole thing and pick a better email server.
[05:24] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, would you kindly mind checking this http://paste.ubuntu.com/728805/ and let me know if this looks good to restore my grub configuration please? It was overwritten by windows' restore option by mistake.
[05:24] <Aleo> I used the printscreen key and the screenshot program both do the same
[05:24] <Rrandy> d'oh.  My atrix connects just fine.  I want desktop access too r00t.  OWA is not working, and I don't have a choice of a different email server ooph.
[05:25] <johnnyzero> ActionParsnip, the bug has been submitted. Hopefully there is a fix for this.
[05:25] <Rrandy> Web access works well in mozilla for 2010, but I really prefer a client rather than a web browser.
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: I'm not conversant with grub like that, sorry
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> johnnyzero: I think it will :)
[05:26] <ubuntu> okee, if you want more careful, download a free partition magic for windows at download.com such as easeus partition manager
[05:27] <Aleo> why partition magic if I can use the Windows 7 native disk management
[05:27] <Aleo> if he
[05:27] <KingFisher> Hello. I am having difficulty mounting an SD card into my SD port. When I insert it nothing happens. Do I need to download a specific driver?
[05:27] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip, you are one of the most linux litterate on the channel. If you don't know, nobody knows here!
[05:27] <okee> Well I changed the install to \dev\sda3, and only windows comes up at boot time.  What did I do wrong?  Does this mean I need to reinstall ubuntu?
[05:27] <ooph> ubuntu: you can pretty much do whatever you want to with grub, and if it breaks, just boot from the livecd and fix it.
[05:27] <starlon> said by ubuntu no less
[05:28] <WanderingEnder> Hey, wondering why my battery monitor in 11.10 freaks out. As in: Gives wild guesses to time remaining. I have 74% free, and it just gave me a critical battery alar.
[05:28] <okee> I am a victim of the amazing disappering operating system.....
[05:28] <ubuntu> right that is true ooph
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: I always boot liveCD and reinstate the bootloader there
[05:28] <okee> Oh yeah?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[05:29] <ubuntu> how do you do that ActionParsnip? I'm in a liveUSB ubuntu now. Oh thanks a lot. I think you sent me a link. I appreciate it.
[05:29] <nixxofugi> im running the installer from the livecd but it wont let me pick what partition or drive i want to install to. the list is empty. can anyone help me?
[05:29] <DuncanPhillips> can anyone help me figure out my SD card problem?
[05:30] <Sypher> ALot of these problems are hard to explain the answer but takes seconds to fix in person.
[05:30] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: have you used schroot - it's supposed to make chrooting easier by also mount binding your dev devices etc
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> _r00t_: not heard of it, apparently the alternate CD has a 'reinstall grub' option
[05:30] <Aleo> by the way, any clue why the print screen only captures the background ?
[05:30] <melvincv> Ubuntu One Control Panel gives me an error when I try to sign in: An exception representing an authentication failure. But I'm able to log in via Firefox.
[05:30] <nixxofugi> anyone?
[05:31] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: cool
[05:31] <ubuntu> How come I'm coming up as Ubuntu today?
[05:31] <melvincv> nixxofugi: Please check if your hard disk is detected in the BIOS
[05:31] <ubuntu> mmmm weird
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> _r00t_: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566   looks sweet :)
[05:31] <nixxofugi> it is. as well as in gparted and fdisk
[05:31] <_r00t_> ubuntu: your nick is FTW :)
[05:32]  * StepNjump Ubuntu now Stepnjump
[05:32] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: yeah looks sweet - haven't used it myself either :p
[05:32] <_r00t_> :p I meant :o soz ActionParsnip
[05:32] <StepNjump> I was not worthy!
[05:32] <okee> Will windows 7 native disk manager allow me to partition for Ubuntu Linux?
[05:33] <StepNjump> lol
[05:33] <ooph> ubuntu: because you're running from a livecd, and/or you didn't edit your preferences in your irc client?
[05:33] <melvincv> nixxofugi: can u post the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[05:34] <Aleo> okee: do the resize on partition, then maybe you have to shrink first
[05:34] <Aleo> than linux will format that new partition
[05:34] <Aleo> then
[05:35] <dr_willis> okee: it can resize and leave space unallocated for linux to use
[05:35] <Aleo> shrink and create a new one with disk manager, after point the linux installation to the new partition
[05:36] <okee> so I don't need another partition Manager?  I can just use the one inside Windows 7?
[05:36] <Aleo> okee: yes
[05:36] <Aleo> it is good as any other partition manager
[05:36] <okee> ok
[05:36] <Aleo> only do things well and with attention
[05:36] <Aleo> :)
[05:36] <okee> I am trying to figure out how to get in there.  I installed Ubuntu, but it didn't come up at boot time.
[05:37] <okee> only win 7........
[05:38] <Aleo> okee: open computer management, than inside you have disk management
[05:38] <dr_willis> okee the unallocated space becomes a new prtition by the linux installer
[05:38] <Auckla> So I have a question?
[05:38] <Auckla> Is there a way to make it to where when I close my laptop and does not turn off? For instance my lappy screen is smashed so I use another screen.
[05:38] <pnorman> Anyone used the cups-pdf package? I'm trying to set it up on my server. When I print a test page through the CUPS web interface it doesn't appear in the Out directory set in cups-pdf.conf.
[05:39] <Urk> ok.  I am actually talking from my laptop, which is actually next to my desktop.
[05:39] <Auckla>  /redraw
[05:39] <Aleo> okee: are you installing inside windows ?
[05:40] <Aleo> with wubi ?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> pnorman: http://www.miscworld.net/55/how-to-setup-pdf-print-server-on-linux   may help
[05:40] <Aleo> I don't trust Wubi, but the Linux Mint installer inside windows work fine
[05:41] <Geoffrey2> is there any reasonably easy way to move your evolution boxes and config files from one computer to another?
[05:41] <ooph> Auckla: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html
[05:41] <Urk> Where do I go inside Windows to find the partition fixer?
[05:41] <Auckla> I figured it out.
[05:41] <Auckla> Thank you ooph. :D
[05:41] <Auckla> I have never done this before. :D
[05:41] <Aleo> Urk: computer management them disk management
[05:42] <Aleo> you have one of the most powerfull
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> Urk: there are youtube vids on how to resize partitions in WIn7
[05:43] <ooph> Don't thank me - I hate Ubuntu now. I'm actually mainly idling here while I surf to find instructions on putting Gnome2 back on my desktop so I don't have to reinstall in order to get rid of Unity. I hate this retarded crap. If I wanted PlaySchool's "My First Tablet OS" on my desktop, I'd have gone straight for Android 4.0
[05:43] <Aleo> you have one of the most powerful disk management on command prompt but it is command line interface
[05:43] <harsh343> I got an error in mysql on ubuntu what i can do ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:43] <Aleo> just type diskpart
[05:43] <harsh343> please help me
[05:43] <ooph> Aleo: gparted works well
[05:43] <_r00t_> harsh343: ps -ef | grep -i mysql
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> ooph: gnome2 is dead, there is a fork called 'mate'
[05:44] <Aleo> ooph: yes, true, but you asked inside windows
[05:44] <_r00t_> ActionParsnip: yes .... MATE :)
[05:44] <ooph> "dead" as in "can't install it ever again", or "dead" as in "not being developed any more"?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> ooph: if you install xfce4 you will get a barebones XFCE and you can run your Gnome apps there
[05:45] <harsh343> _r00t_, i run this command not helped
[05:45] <ooph> because honestly? a code freeze 18 months ago would have been preferable to this ridiculous monstrosity of unusability
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> ooph: its not being developed by the gnome team any more
[05:45] <_r00t_> harsh343: sudo service mysql stop && sudo service mysql start
[05:46] <An-iSociaL> still not getting anywhere with iptables, everything still gets blocked, anyone else want to try and explain what flag determines an inbound connection?
[05:46] <ooph> ActionParsnip: i don't care if it's not being developed... there wasn't anything wrong with it to start with. This policy of "change it because it hasn't become drastically different recently" is what's tearing Ubuntu apart, and alienating the users.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> ooph: Its affecting all gnome based distros, not just ubuntu. Think about it
[05:46] <_r00t_> An-iSociaL: As I mentioned previously please post iptables -L to pastebin
[05:46] <ooph> An-iSociaL: source and destination (-s and -d) should be helpful parameters.
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> ooph: other gnome3 distros have gone for gnome shell, Canonical made unity instead
[05:47] <AndrewIRC> Gnome 2 is alive and well on 10.04
[05:47] <An-iSociaL> its completely useless but here you go
[05:47] <An-iSociaL> http://pastebin.com/6Sd54Zf9
[05:47] <An-iSociaL> the iptables -L output
[05:48] <ooph> AndrewIRC: and what do I do next year, when Unity becomes LTS?
[05:48] <An-iSociaL> as i said there are no rules, because when i try to make one, all traffic dies
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> no one knows if unity will even touch it.
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> but, i doubt it.
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> all the negative feed back theyre getting now
[05:48] <_r00t_> An-iSociaL: :/
[05:48] <ooph> An-iSociaL: give us an example of a rule you want to make?
[05:48] <AndrewIRC> i dont think theyll bother
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> ooph: you can also use gnome-session-fallback and use that as your session, or switch to another DE. Gnome is not the only desktop
[05:49] <_r00t_> brb restarting in E17
[05:49] <ooph> ActionParsnip: it might as well be - none of the others have all the features I have come to expect from my Linux Desktop Experience(tm)
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> ooph: like what?
[05:49] <AndrewIRC> E17 is also a good GUI.
[05:49] <AndrewIRC> it is used on Bodhi, which i hear starts up at like 50mb
[05:49] <AndrewIRC> which is crazy
[05:50] <ooph> System Monitor in the top panel. Having two panels. No dock (it gets in my way). A menu containing all my programs (still can't let go of the start menu).
[05:50] <An-iSociaL> ooph: if source network is 10.1.10.x allow inbound connections, else deny inbound connections unless ports = 80,443
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> ooph: xfce has 2 panels by default or dock, it also has the Apps / System menu stuff
[05:50] <An-iSociaL> basically services other than web are available only to the LAN
[05:51] <harsh343>     output is unknown instance
[05:51] <ooph> An-iSociaL: did you look at the firewall that gets built when you walk through all the steps at http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen ?
[05:51] <An-iSociaL> i tried... the script makes as little sense as iptables itself
[05:51] <Geoffrey2> theres probably not much hope of Ubuntu 11.10 doing a proper startup with only a half gig of RAM, is there?
[05:52] <harsh343> Stop unknown instance
[05:52] <harsh343> is the output
[05:52] <ooph> An-iSociaL: try thinking of it as less of a script, and more of a sequence of commands. iptables is a program, and everything that follows it on the same line are parameters.
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> ooph: if you install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin you can run gnome panel applets in the XFCE panel
[05:52] <o0splitpaw0o> !fluxbuntu
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> ooph: which is everything you just listed
[05:52] <ooph> ActionParsnip: so you're saying I should run Xubuntu, then?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> ooph: no, you just need to install xfce4  no need to duplicate functionality
[05:53] <o0splitpaw0o> !fluxbuntu |Geoffrey2
[05:53] <harsh343> Hello you there
[05:53] <An-iSociaL> i understand
[05:53] <_r00t_> ewww e17 just reminded me of the last millennium
[05:54] <An-iSociaL> but blocking inbound http
[05:54] <SianaGearz> helloes. did pulseaudio break for someone else today???
[05:54] <An-iSociaL> also blocks responses
[05:54] <An-iSociaL> not just connections
[05:54] <Geoffrey2> I'm not looking for a derivitive, I'm simply asking, if the only functioning laptop I have only has a half gig of RAM, will my Ubuntu have even half of prayer of booting so I can more easily salvage files off of it?
[05:54] <ooph> duplicate functionality?
[05:55] <ooph> i don't understand what you mean by that. Ubuntu 11.10 is not functional.
[05:55] <ooph> If XFCE will fix it, then shouldn't I just install Xubuntu?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> ooph: a little research would have show you all the stuff I just told you. But instead you plow effort into badmouthing the DE. Its all very changable and all the gnome apps you run will run in all the other desktops
[05:55] <harsh343> how can i solve this error in mysql
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> my main laptop died, this is just a spare that I happened to have, it's only got 512 MB of RAM.....
[05:55] <harsh343> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:55] <An-iSociaL> mysql = ubuntu?
[05:56] <AndrewIRC> I am growing bored of Ubuntu, i may switch to centos
[05:56] <SianaGearz> Geoffrey2: half a gig of ram should be plenty. maybe not plenty enough to be buttersmoothly enjoyable, but plenty.
[05:56] <harsh343> An-iSociaL, means i m geting problem in mysql on ubuntu
[05:56] <An-iSociaL> ask mysql
[05:56] <SianaGearz> Geoffrey2: for ANY even so heavyweight desktop.
[05:56] <_r00t_> Geoffrey2: the problem is not booting or the OS .... the problem will be running apps. Browsers these days consume memory like it's free air
[05:56] <harsh343> Hello this is the proble of ubuntu
[05:56] <harsh343> not sql
[05:56] <An-iSociaL> for that matter i should be asking netfilter
[05:56] <An-iSociaL> not ubuntu
[05:57] <An-iSociaL> so
[05:57] <An-iSociaL> bye
[05:57] <FloodBot1> An-iSociaL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <ooph> harsh343: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socket-var-lib-mysql-mysql-sock-281557/
[05:58] <_r00t_> Geoffrey2: why not turn the machine in to a thin client
[05:59] <ooph> Geoffrey2: worst case scenario, use the "alternative install" cd - it installs without loading all the LiveCD stuff, making it less likely to fail due to out-of-memory issues.
[05:59] <SianaGearz> so hum, anyone willing to help me fight through a problem with pulseaudio which appeared due to ubuntu update today?
[05:59] <ooph> Ubuntu will cheerfully run in ~300MB of RAM, it just may not install so well.
[06:00] <harsh343> how can i remove all mysql and install again i want to force myqsl to remove each and everything and reinstall a fresh sql
[06:00] <o0splitpaw0o> !fluxbuntu |ooph
[06:00] <Geoffrey2> I had a laptop, I manged to fry it...oops...pulled the hard drive, put in this old laptop, simply want HD access long enough to grab some files so I can transfer them to the desktop computer
[06:00] <ooph> o0splitpaw0o: yeah, that was relevant.
[06:01] <Rrandy> ooph: have a look at AWN.  I run it on gnome, I use one dock as a system tray, another for launchers on my right monitor, and another for launchers - including the menu, and system monitor, on my left monitor.
[06:01] <ooph> Geoffrey2: puppy linux is designed for older hardware, and will probably do what you want.
[06:02] <ooph> from the LiveCD, I mean
[06:02] <okee> I am going to sleep.  I set aside a 14gb partition for Ubuntu.  I don't know why Ubuntu isn't showing up in the start menu.   Looks like I have to reinstall.  I didn't get any error messages.  This is strange.
[06:02] <o0splitpaw0o> ooph: take less than 120 mb at most. keep you freed up
[06:02] <AndrewIRC> puppylinux, great OS, the major bad thing about it? Runs as root.
[06:02] <SianaGearz> puppy linux was designed for older hardware 10 years ago... wonder how old old hardware now is...\
[06:02] <ooph> AndrewIRC: That isn't relevant to Geoffrey2's intent to use it to move some files to a different system...
[06:02] <AndrewIRC> oh
[06:03] <ooph> SianaGearz: try installing Win95 on a quad-core with 8GB of RAM... just be prepared to laugh when the whole install is over inside of 3 minutes.
[06:03] <Notimik> anyone here how knows how to get unity to save volume level between reboots?
[06:04] <uofm49426> hey how can i share a hd format ntfs well in ubuntu dns server
[06:04] <uofm49426> xbmc not ready for 11.10 yet or i would use it
[06:04] <ooph> Notimik: if you're referring to the value displayed by the "Volume Control" in the top-right corner, then it's supposed to do that by default.
[06:05] <Notimik> ooph, oki, every time I reboot it resets to max level which is kind of annoying
[06:05] <SianaGearz> Geoffrey2: for purposes such as yours i use PartedMagic usually...
[06:05] <ooph> uofm49426: http://www.lmgtfy.com/search?q=samba+ntfs+fstab
[06:06] <ooph> SianaGearz: for similar purposes, i use gparted from the ubuntu LiveCD
[06:06] <ooph> Notimik: have you installed, or are you booting from CD?
[06:06] <Notimik> ooph, upgraded fron 11.4
[06:07] <SianaGearz> ooph: except last time i tried to do any data recovery with kubuntu live cd, the live distro catastrophically.
[06:07] <SianaGearz> *failed
[06:07] <Notimik> ooph, so it is installed yes
[06:07] <ooph> Siana: try a lighter-weight distro, or one designed for recovery purposes. I've heard good things about Trinity.
[06:08] <ooph> Notimik: I'm not sure, then. The only thing I could think of offhand was that you were booting a non-persistent system, somehow. Is this 11.10?
[06:09] <reyazbot> heyy
[06:09] <Rrandy> SianaGearz: I've used Trinity - it's very good.
[06:09] <Notimik> ooph, yes it is 11.10 and my hd seems persistent to mee :)
[06:09] <SianaGearz> ooph: it folded on trivial operations - don't remember what it was, some permission jumble up on the livecd filesystem not allowing it to mount the disk. in fact the live environment would crash or halt a few seconds into attempting to do anything other than stare at it :)
[06:10] <eristikophiles> hey just to check but when installing grub2 does it go in /dev/sdb (ubuntu drive) or /dev/sdb2 (/boot)?
[06:10]  * _r00t_ is asking #archlinux why they are snobs :D
[06:10] <ooph> SianaGearz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11406188 indicates that this is an unknown issue, probably related to the Ubuntu devs congratulating themselves for Unity's success at removing intelligent Ubuntu users. The recommendation appears to be to turn your PC off.
[06:10] <eristikophiles> i'm not sure whether my error here is putting grub2 on sdb in the first place and not sda (windows drive), or whether i should leave some space in /dev/sdb itself prefixed to the partitions
[06:11] <ooph> eristikophiles: you will want to install the boot loader to the boot sector of the drive your system boots from.
[06:11] <eristikophiles> ooph- yeah, the funny thing is, this box used to dual-boot with windows and ubuntu.. on different drives
[06:11] <eristikophiles> the windows install doesn't even see the second drive
[06:12] <eristikophiles> but the ubuntu drive didn't seem to care about the windows drive either
[06:12] <eristikophiles> that ubuntu install was messed up, so i'm reinstalling.. only can't manage to boot at all now, after installing
[06:12] <eristikophiles> but i picked /dev/sdb as where grub goes
[06:12] <eristikophiles> or rather, where the "boot loader" goes according to the installer
[06:12] <ooph> eristikophiles: i would check your BIOS to see which drive your system considers to be primary. If the issue you are having is that your machine is not asking what OS to boot into, and simply going straight to Windows, then you want to install grub to your Windows drive.
[06:13] <eristikophiles> no, it doesn't go to windows either now
[06:13] <eristikophiles> it just fails to boot, goes into grub rescue mode
[06:13] <ooph> If Windows gets upset about that, you can boot from a Windows disk and use FDISK /FIXMBR to fix it.
[06:13] <lauratika> cant see cryptkeeper in unity ubuntu 11.10, did some one had any luck making it work?
[06:13] <ooph> hmm
[06:13] <ooph> if you're not getting it to boot at all, then you may need to double-check to see if your grub menu isn't getting its wires crossed.
[06:14] <eristikophiles> yeah that's what i thought might be it. i found a reference saying to be sure and change the linux line to add a / in front of the kernel name, because /boot and / are mounted as different partitions
[06:14] <eristikophiles> i feel like this may be related
[06:14] <ooph> i recommend a google search for "broken grub" and fixing your menu - then reinstall the bootloader to the correct disk.
[06:15] <pangolin> !grub
[06:15] <eristikophiles> i still haven't managed to mess with grub2 files directly.. kinda hard to find a decent doc online, each one assumes slightly different systems
[06:15] <ooph> pangolin and ubottu: thanks.
[06:15] <eristikophiles> yeah except i lost windows after installing ubuntu, so :)
[06:15] <ooph> ouch.
[06:15] <ooph> are you wanting to dual-boot?
[06:16] <eristikophiles> yeah
[06:17] <ooph> is windows actually gone, or it's just not booting any more?
[06:17] <eristikophiles> hm. it occurs to me: is there any decent way to r/w to an ext4 partition from windows? (it doesn't even *see* the ubuntu drive in windows!)
[06:17] <eristikophiles> ..no, it can't be messed up since i did nothing to that drive in the installer
[06:17] <eristikophiles> unless the installer lied or something :)
[06:18] <NiDoubleKi> Hi all
[06:18] <ooph> eristikophiles: there is a way to see ext* partitions in windows, but I don't trust Windows not to corrupt *itself*, nevermind a separate OS, so I never bothered to use that driver. besides, your issue appears to be with the boot sector, not with the data on the drive
[06:19] <harsh343> how can i remove mysql from my ubuntu
[06:19] <harsh343> ?
[06:19] <eristikophiles> no, i was just wondering about that. it's interesting for other reasons.
[06:19] <ooph> harsh343: apt-get uninstall mysql ?
[06:19] <eristikophiles> harsh343- run a package manager
[06:19] <ooph> eristikophiles: back to my original line of questioning: does windows boot, or no?
[06:19] <eristikophiles> synaptic, or whatever you have installed
[06:20] <eristikophiles> no, it doesn't
[06:20] <eristikophiles> only grub rescue
[06:20] <ooph> ok, so your system is completely non-functional at the moment.
[06:20] <ooph> correct?
[06:20] <eristikophiles> so i mean, it seems to have successfully done *something* in the install process lol
[06:20] <eristikophiles> yeah
[06:20] <eristikophiles> i'm assuming that the windows drive is the same, maybe the MBR messed up at most
[06:20] <harsh343> ooph, E: Invalid operation uninstall
[06:20] <eristikophiles> try remove
[06:21] <eristikophiles> also sudo it
[06:21] <ooph> yeah, i may be too tired to be helpful any more.
[06:21] <harsh343> eristikophiles, E: Unable to locate package mysql
[06:21] <eristikophiles> (this is why people asking like "how do i uninstall x" i tell, use synaptic.
[06:21] <eristikophiles> it's gui. easier
[06:21] <SianaGearz> ooph: the issue was perhaps kde specific and i don't have a full solution yet, but at least i can see what has been causing the symptoms.
[06:22] <eristikophiles> ok in that case the package name is like mysql##.##.## or something
[06:22] <ooph> now that i think of it, where is the ubuntu software center in the unity interface?
[06:22] <eristikophiles> just run a gui package manager instead :)
[06:22] <eristikophiles> harsh343- you have synaptic?
[06:22] <harsh343> what is this eristikophiles
[06:22] <eristikophiles> hm. i'm assuming your gui works, but it's ubuntu.. so it probably does
[06:22] <harsh343> ??
[06:22] <eristikophiles> it's a program that manages your installed programs
[06:22] <eristikophiles> a gui wrapper for apt-get (the cli app)
[06:22] <ooph> harsh343: gksudo synaptic
[06:23] <harsh343> boot manager ????
[06:23] <llutz_> eristikophiles: a frontend to apt, not apt-get (which also is just a frontend to apt)
[06:23] <eristikophiles> harsh343- ?? no, i'm the one having boot manager issues :)
[06:23] <eristikophiles> llutz_- ah, right. :)
[06:24] <harsh343> ooph, what next ?
[06:24] <ooph> eristikophiles: to make sure i have your configuration properly in my mind: you have 2 physical disks; one is windows, the other is (attempting to be) Ubuntu. yes?
[06:24] <eristikophiles> SianaGearz- wait, you had an issue with the kubuntu livecd crashing during drive mounts?
[06:24] <ooph> harsh: search for "mysql"
[06:24] <eristikophiles> ..was it the CD or the DVD?
[06:25] <harsh343> ooph, i m very much tired now from ubuntu now i think to go with windows again
[06:25] <eristikophiles> ooph- yeah
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> can someone tell me if there's a command line option to force Ubuntu to redect the appropriate screen resolution?
[06:25] <harsh343> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:25] <harsh343> I want to remove but not able to remove what the hell is this
[06:25] <ooph> if you didn't change anything in the BIOS, then you would want to install Ubuntu on the blank disk, then make sure grub gets put in the bootsector of the first disk - that's the one your system should be trying to boot from.
[06:26] <eristikophiles> harsh343- are you sure that nothing depends on mysql?
[06:26] <eristikophiles> that none of your other programs are using it?
[06:26] <harsh343> apache2 of php myadmin may use i think so
[06:26] <harsh343> or*
[06:26] <eristikophiles> uh, yeah
[06:26] <eristikophiles> it does
[06:26] <najamsa> harsh343: I think mysql.conf my default tries connecting to this socket. This can be overriden from cmdline or updating mysql.conf
[06:26] <eristikophiles> if you're running an XAMP stack, then it uses mysql most likely
[06:26] <ooph> harsh: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socket-var-run-mysqld-mysqld-sock-753632/
[06:26] <eristikophiles> XAMMP does
[06:27] <ooph> you're not running mysql, that's why it can't talk to it.
[06:27] <najamsa> its easy. I have done it, but sometime back...
[06:27] <eristikophiles> ooph- ok, i guess i'll go mess with BIOS a bit
[06:27] <eristikophiles> if that doesn't help back to messing with grub2
[06:28] <urlin2u> eristikophiles, you   ubuntu now?
[06:28] <urlin2u> in*
[06:28] <eristikophiles> this is another box
[06:28] <urlin2u> eristikophiles, you can boot ubuntu right?
[06:28] <eristikophiles> i was just using the liveDVD on that one
[06:28] <eristikophiles> no
[06:28] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: yes, i have had ubuntu livecd unable to mount anything because it claimed the directories in the root filesystem weren't writeable. to crash it, a little bit more hand-pokery was needed, don't remember what. nothing evil anyway.
[06:29] <urlin2u> eristikophiles, reloading grub to the mbr is easy 2 commands you night use the bootscript to see if everything is in order though.
[06:29] <Geoffrey2> it's booted, but the screen is only going about 60% across the monitor, I'm getting two copies of the desktop, one on top of the other, and the flicker is killing my eyes....any way to make Ubuntu redetect the correct monitor and video settings for this thing?
[06:29] <urlin2u> might*
[06:29] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: ehr, Kubuntu, not ubuntu, and 11.10 specifically
[06:30] <ooph> Geoffrey2: try adding "nomodeset" to the boot line.
[06:30] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: and oh it was a live-cd written to USB stick with unetbootin, so maybe it did something differently from what it does when booting from a CD (though that'd be silly)
[06:30] <eristikophiles> oh, nm SianaGearz .. i was having a similar issue with the kubuntu 11.10 liveCD but it had to do with the partition editor in the installer
[06:31] <eristikophiles> (kept crashing during any drive-related edits)
[06:31] <eristikophiles> the liveDVD didn't
[06:31] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: ah yes exactly, parted crashed :)
[06:31] <eristikophiles> yeah, it sounded similar. i just d/led the DVD instead, that seemed to work
[06:32] <eristikophiles> it might be a bug in the disk image they have
[06:32] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: well my decision over that was to ditch kubuntu and try Fedora for a change :)
[06:32] <SianaGearz> though only on one of my computers.
[06:34] <SianaGearz> eristikophiles: and oh there was another livecd bug, maybe related, unable to write in home directory. that'd crash dolphin in minutes.
[06:35] <Auckla> So to keep syslog from displaying to a terminal. Is that controlled via syslog.conf?
[06:35] <Auckla> Err echo'n. Mess me up while I"m working.
[06:37] <eristikophiles> SianaGearz- i didn't try that myself.. but ok
[06:40] <eristikophiles> well, BIOS sees both drives. it's actually kinda funny, since they're the same model, they have the same identifier number lol
[06:40] <eristikophiles> ooph- there doesn't seem to be any BIOS issues then i guess
[06:41] <eristikophiles> except for how ridiculously short a span of time you can press F2 on this box for at the start of boot (took me a few tries)
[06:42] <Auckla> eristikophiles: This rig is the same way.
[06:44] <edison__> ....
[06:45] <eristikophiles> huh, just found another issue i might be having
[06:45] <eristikophiles> perhaps it's the UUIDs that's broken
[06:45] <eristikophiles> one forum post says that the UUIDs can change causing this issue, maybe that's what it is
[06:45] <eristikophiles> ;p so many ways it can break! lol
[06:46] <ooph> eristikophiles: i ran into that with 9.10 - not sure what caused it, but it did break things. the fix was to edit fstab to either reflect the new UUID or to not use UUIDs
[06:47] <Auckla> Hmmm, there is one command that will make my theme for joomla work. And I don't remember what it is anymore. And the IRC support sucks for them. :&*(
[06:47] <eristikophiles> yeah, apparently UUIDs aren't stable with liveCDs? or something? not sure how they'd change. i use a UUID in my fstab on this box for a specific external usb hd
[06:47] <llutz_> eristikophiles: UUIDs only change when you create a new instance of a filesystem
[06:48] <eristikophiles> what do you mean by 'instance' here?
[06:48] <ooph> llutz_: there is/was a bug that caused them to change between installation and first boot of Ubuntu
[06:48] <llutz_> eristikophiles: "reformat"
[06:48] <eristikophiles> oh i see
[06:48] <eristikophiles> hm
[06:48] <eristikophiles> i haven't reformatted that drive in a bit though. i repartitioned it in the liveCD with a partition editor, then installed over those same partitions in the installer with no edits (just typed in mount points)
[06:53] <harsh343> I got an error like this what i can do ? harsh@harsh-3000:~$ mysql -u root -p
[06:53] <harsh343> Enter password:
[06:53] <harsh343> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:54] <DuncanPhillips> harsh343: trying doing sudo
[06:54] <najamsa> harsh343: Can you check your process list and confirm if mysql is unning ?
[06:54] <DuncanPhillips>                   '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[06:54] <DuncanPhillips> harsh343: do /etc/init.d/mysql status
[06:55] <ooph> harsh: error 2 is "file not found". http://anthologyoi.com/computers/cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socketerror.html may have some usefulness to you.
[06:55] <DuncanPhillips> and tell us what it says
[06:55] <ooph> also, why are you wanting to run mysql as root?
[06:55] <eristikophiles> alright, gonna try this without UUIDs in fstab
[06:56] <eristikophiles> nope, same error
[06:56] <eristikophiles> strangely enough it still displays the UUID there
[06:56] <eristikophiles> ;p
[06:56] <eristikophiles> time to mess with grub files
[06:56] <eristikophiles> reboot
[06:56] <eristikophiles> oops wrong kb lol
[06:57] <ksork> I deeply apologize if I'm speaking out of line. I'm a complete newbie and am looking for help that I can't find anywhere online. If this is not the place to come, please let me know. Thank you.
[06:58] <ooph> ksork: please ask your question, so that we may be off assistance :)
[06:58] <jakes> guyes anyone see me??
[06:58] <harsh343> now error 13
[06:58] <ooph> jakes: no, you're invisible.
[06:58] <jakes> how to install .exe file in ubuntu ???
[06:59] <soidexe> Hi I upgraded my 11.04 to 11.10 and my gnome 2.32 desktop doesn't show System menu and I can't right click on panels also. What would you do to fix that? I can't use unity...
[06:59] <najamsa> harsh343: can you do netstat -a | grep mysql
[06:59] <ooph> jakes: apt-get install wine
[06:59] <FishFace> 11.04. Top panel is blank. Cannot add to it. Right click does nothing. What did I miss?
[06:59] <jakes> i have wine
[06:59] <dc5ala> soidexe, the system menu is under application -> other i think, to get context menu there hold alt
[07:00] <ksork> I'm following the instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download to create a bootable USB stick on a Mac. When step 9 finishes, I get a message saying that my USB stick is "not readable by this computer." Any help?
[07:00] <harsh343> najamsa, my problem is not solve
[07:00] <ooph> soidexe: the apparently official answer is "reinstall 10.04 (LTS) and use that until it becomes unsupported; at that point, either choose a new distro, or sit and cry because Canonical has decided we're not allowed to choose what we do with our own machines.
[07:01] <najamsa> harsh343: can you run this and copy the o/p here: netstat -a | grep mysql
[07:01] <FishFace> soidexe: Hope you get it fixed. My right click on the panel also does nothing
[07:01] <pnorman> ksork: Reading the instructions it looks like that may be expected - did you try booting from it?
[07:01] <soidexe> ooph, I'll rather install debian in that case...
[07:01] <ooph> soidexe: moving to a different distro has "solved" that issue for a large number of users.
[07:02] <ksork> Yes. It the USB stick is not recognized as bootable.
[07:02] <harsh343> najamsa, no any output
[07:02] <soidexe> FishFace, yeah, it works. but I can't get how to enable system menu
[07:02] <harsh343> for this command
[07:02] <ooph> harsh343: that indicates that mysql is not running. did you install the server, or just the client?
[07:03] <FishFace> soidexe: The only useful thing I can find is the top right where you go to shut down. The gear. System Settings. Even that is minimal.
[07:03] <ooph> harsh343: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:03] <jakes> when i am install with wine error will be generated how can i install .exe.with wine???
[07:03] <harsh343> sudo apt-get install mysql-server ooph i install this
[07:04] <ksork> pnorman: any suggestions?
[07:04] <Abhijit> jakes, mark it as executable and then double click or in terminal do wine file.exe
[07:04] <ooph> jakes: files ending in .exe are windows-specific files. I would suggest you google for "wine <your program's name here>"
[07:04] <pnorman> ksork: did you md5sum the .iso?
[07:04] <ooph> oh, yeah... marking it as executable can help ;)
[07:04] <soidexe> FishFace, is that gnome 2.32 settings or unity?
[07:04] <harsh343> harsh@harsh-3000:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:04] <harsh343> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[07:04] <harsh343> utility, e.g. service mysql start
[07:04] <harsh343> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[07:04] <harsh343> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start mysql
[07:04] <ksork> pnorman: i'm sorry, but i don't know what that means. again, i'm a complete newbie with this stuff.
[07:04] <harsh343> start: Job failed to start
[07:04] <FloodBot1> harsh343: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <ooph> harsh343: try "sudo service mysql start
[07:05] <ooph> "
[07:05] <harsh343> start: Job failed to start output
[07:05] <ndrwc> Can anyone help me solve a bug with grub installing on RAID?
[07:06] <pnorman> ksork: do md5sum ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso (in a terminal window in the directory you downloaded the image)
[07:07] <Flynsarmy> If I added my username to www-data group and rebooted, why do I still get a permission denied when attempting to modify files belonging to www-data?
[07:07] <NiDoubleKi> hi all
[07:07] <llutz_> Flynsarmy: the need to belong to group www-data and have to be group-writable
[07:07] <harsh343> ooph, bro i m very much tired now from ubuntu can u plz remove my all mysql and install again
[07:08] <FishFace> soidexe: Gnome desktop 2.32.1
[07:08] <pnorman> ksork: The md5sums for the different releases are at http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/MD5SUMS. I don't expect it is corrupt, but it's worth checking before trying to debug the problem
[07:08] <ooph> harsh343: sudo apt-get remove mysql*
[07:08] <Flynsarmy> llutz_: aha, currently not group writable. thanks
[07:08] <ooph> harsh343: sudo apt-get purge mysql*
[07:08] <harsh343> output is ;- E: Unable to locate package mysql
[07:09] <eristikophiles> harsh343- i think your best bet is to use a gui package manager
[07:09] <ksork> pnorman: again, i apologize, but i'm not even familiar with the terminal, so i'm not sure what you're asking me to do. sorry... i was relying on the step-by-step instructions on the ubuntu website, which were working until step 9 finished
[07:09] <eristikophiles> if you're not comfortable with the command line, just go gui
[07:09] <harsh343> E: Unable to locate package mysql
[07:09] <eristikophiles> that's why we're on ubuntu and not like, freebsd. we can do that :)
[07:09] <harsh343> I am not able to remove and all
[07:09] <pnorman> ksork: Is doing a CD an option?
[07:09] <ooph> harsh343: did you add the * at the end? it's used as a wild-card, in this case.
[07:09] <harsh343> no
[07:10] <ooph> try those commands again, but this time end them with mysql*\
[07:10] <ooph> gah
[07:10] <ksork> pnorman: i don't have any with me, but if i can't figure out how to solve this problem, i guess i'll have to go buy some
[07:10] <ooph> mysql*
[07:11] <ooph> ksork: do you have access to a windows machine? i've found the USB storage device option to work better when creating your boot device in windows.
[07:11] <ksork> ooph: yes, i do.
[07:11] <ooph> ksork: try following the instructions for making a bootable usb drive via windows, see if it helps
[07:12] <ksork> ooph: will do. thanks!
[07:12] <harsh343> ooph, what next ? i run this command
[07:12] <ooph> harsh343: you asked how to remove all of mysql. that should have done the trick.
[07:13] <ooph> to put it back, "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[07:13] <ooph> follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html
[07:14] <ooph> they're a bit out of date, being for 8.04, but they shouldn't be inaccurate.
[07:15] <ooph> and i suspect you installed the client, but not the server, in the first place. the error messages you were receiving indicated that you were trying to access a service that didn't exist.
[07:15] <maxus> hi people, i want to probe LXDE but question is...can I switch anytime between gnome, kde and LXDE with no problems?
[07:15] <ooph> ... which i told you an hour ago ;)
[07:16] <tapout> is there an easy way to get oneric to allow for ubuntu classic?  I hate the new unity
[07:16] <ooph> maxus: in theory, yes. you should be able to select your preferred desktop environment at the login screen
[07:16] <zjo> I'm new user to ubuntu running it on virtual box. I'm trying to install a piece of software. I downloaded the .gz file from the website, put it in a folder, then from terminal, I cd'd to that folder I saved the file in, gunzip'd it, then I type 'make' and I get: Fatal error X11/Xlib.h no such file found
[07:16] <harsh343> ooph, thanks bro
[07:16] <ooph> tapout: the official response is "run 10.04 LTS and select a new distro before the LTS runs out"
[07:16] <harsh343> now works gr8
[07:17] <eristikophiles> bah. i'm getting sick of having to reboot into liveDVD all the time
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> tapout: install gnome-session-fallback and select it at login, may help
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> zjo: what filename did you download?
[07:17] <eristikophiles> smoke break
[07:17] <zjo> ActionParsnip: http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/xpp/download.html
[07:18] <zjo> clicked the first link
[07:18] <zjo> I'm just following directions they have written for Linux installation.
[07:18] <soidexe> FishFace, no, it's not. I used 2.32 in 10.10 a long time but I had system menu there
[07:18] <soidexe> FishFace, 10.10 uses 2.32
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> !compile | zjo
[07:19] <FishFace> soidexe: This is maddening. But I am trying something as a last effort.
[07:19] <ooph> zjo: try pulling the ubuntu tarball from http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/binary/latest/
[07:20] <wildc4rd> I have noticed this PC slowing down a little lately, though I did blame Gnome3, is there any benefit to a clean reinstall, as this box has just been upgraded every release since Dapper Drake
[07:20] <soidexe> what system do you use?
[07:20] <soidexe> FishFace, what system do you use?
[07:20] <ooph> wildc4rd: not really. linux systems don't seem to acquire cruft in the same way that windows systems do. if it's your browsing that is slowing down, you might try emptying your cache files
[07:21] <zjo> ooph: How would I install that?
[07:21] <zjo> I'm a first time user. Installing stuff on linux is a damn pain. :(
[07:21] <ooph> zjo: follow the same instructions, but use http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/binary/latest/xppaut6.11-ubuntu.tgz as your .tgz file instead of the one you used the first time
[07:22] <FishFace> soidexe: Its 11.04 64 bit with a old vid card
[07:22] <maxus> well, thanx 4 response, but, what about apps installed, it can all works in LXDE ? or I need to install Apps 4 LXDE ?
[07:22] <ooph> and i'm currently on a windows box, so i don't know if xpp has an entry in the software center... but if it did, i would use that instead.
[07:22] <soidexe> FishFace, and 2.32.x gnome?
[07:24] <FishFace> soidexe: Well, that is what it says when I go to gnome-about. But I have tried booting two different options. 2D is what I have now. So, who knows?
[07:24] <ooph> FishFace: log out. on the bottom of the login screen (where you select your username and enter your password), there is an option to select your desktop. select "Ubuntu Classic" there, see if that helps. Also, do NOT upgrade to 11.10 if that fixes you.
[07:24] <ooph> "Ubuntu Classic" is not an option in 11.10 :P
[07:24] <FishFace> ooph: I'll give that a try. I looked for the classic and didnt see it. Might have missed it. Will try now. Ty again.
[07:26] <tdn> How do I set up the ubuntu iso to be served through dhcp/tftp so that clients can do a network boot of the iso and install via network?
[07:26] <ooph> tdn: google "LTSP"
[07:27] <ooph> or "BOOTP"
[07:28] <ooph> oooh...
[07:28] <ooph> tdn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[07:28] <tdn> ooph, thanks.
[07:29] <ooph> LTSP + multi-head = 16 simultaneous users with only 5 PCs :D
[07:29] <ooph> ... and only one HDD
[07:29] <ooph> heh
[07:30] <FishFace> ooph: The only options for the login screen are Ubuntu, Ubuntu 2D and User Defined.
[07:31] <ooph> FishFace: hmm. you sure you haven't upgraded to 11.10?
[07:31] <FishFace> Hrmmmmmm
[07:31] <FishFace> Ya know what? Its been a while. I did :(
[07:32] <FishFace> So now  I am beat I guess. No bottom panel. And the top one does nothing.
[07:32] <ooph> gnome-fallback may be helpful... but the best thing I have found so far is to install 10.04 so i have a usable system while I decide which distro to install from here.
[07:33] <ooph> centos6 still uses gnome2
[07:33] <ooph> rock-solid, but it's rpm-based instead of deb-based
[07:34] <FishFace> I dred changing because of the dual boot with Win and taking a chance of creating another problem
[07:35] <ndrwc> Can anyone help me getting grub installed with either RAID or LVM?
[07:36] <ooph> FishFace: if you're currently dual-booting, then you shouldn't have any issues caused by dual-booting. if you have access to another hard drive, you might be able to instruct the BIOS which drive is the "primary" or "first" drive, and thus side-step the issue completely.
[07:37] <FishFace> ooph: When in a more brave mood I will give it a shot.
[07:37] <ooph> for instance, I have a machine that has windows on a RAID1 array, and Ubuntu didn't want to interact with it properly... so I installed another drive, and installed ubuntu to that one. admittedly, to switch back and forth i have to go in and change a BIOS setting, but it's worth it to not harf my windows install.
[07:38] <ksork> ooph: I created a bootable USB stick using a Windows machine and following the instructions on the Ubuntu website. However, by doing this, didn't I create a bootable USB stick that works with Windows, not Mac OS X?
[07:38] <eristikophiles> ooph- btw, i don't think i can do that (what you just said about BIOS) to my drives. they have the same identifier in BIOS, both are SATA. no jumpers, both apparently tied to the same booter
[07:39] <ooph> ksork: if you followed the instructions, you should have created a bootable device that works with UBUNTU. /grin
[07:39] <eristikophiles> ooph- does it matter if your hardware raid is turned off / not being used?
[07:39] <eristikophiles> this thing has built-in raid but it isn't being used
[07:39] <eristikophiles> seriously though, the prior ubuntu install was able to boot fine. ;p
[07:39] <eristikophiles> even if it didn't know what to do once it got there
[07:39] <bekks> ooph: Do you even have a real hardware raid controller or just some sort of fakeraid controller requiring windows drivers?
[07:39] <ksork> ooph: I created the bootable USB using the instructions for Windows. Was that correct to do?
[07:40] <ooph> eristikophiles: check serial numbers on the drives, that may give you an idea which is which (i'm assuming you have a "matched pair" of drives, there)
[07:40] <ooph> ksork: yes, if you followed the instructions, you should now have a USB stick that will boot Ubuntu.
[07:40] <eristikophiles> yeah i do
[07:41] <ksork> ooph: My Mac doesn't recognize it as a bootable disk.
[07:41] <eristikophiles> sadly, serials appear the same to the BIOS lol
[07:41] <eristikophiles> like i said, same identifier
[07:41] <ooph> bekks: it's a "real" raid controllwer, although it's integrated to my Gigabyte motherboard.
[07:41] <eristikophiles> ..i could switch by just pressing a key and assuming it worked though
[07:41] <eristikophiles> just have to be careful
[07:41] <bekks> ooph: So whoch mainboard is it exactly?
[07:41] <ooph> eristikophiles: better to remove the windows drive while installing linux
[07:41] <ooph> safer, anyway
[07:41] <ooph> bekks: sec, checking...
[07:41] <eristikophiles> that just sounds nuts
[07:42] <eristikophiles> i tried adjusting a setting in the 'grub' file
[07:42] <ooph> oops... correction: ASUS motherboard. M4A78LT-MLE
[07:43] <ooph> eristikophiles: if you want to make sure not to harsh your windows, is it more nuts to "make a change and hope", or to "pull a cable and know for sure that you won't be killing windows"?
[07:44] <ooph> bekks: did you get the designation?
[07:44] <ooph> bekks: and why did you want the info in the first place?
[07:44] <eristikophiles> i suppose that's true
[07:44] <eristikophiles> it's just kind of hard to get at the box
[07:44] <ksork> ooph: I appreciate your attempts to help me. I guess I'll try looking elsewhere online. If I can't find help (which I haven't been able to), I might just have to try burning a CD.
[07:44] <bekks> ooph: To verify wether it has a hardware raif controller or not.
[07:44] <eristikophiles> things in here are kind of hard to move around
[07:45] <ooph> yeah, there's a reason I buy a couple dozen thumbscrews for each machine I build :)
[07:45] <paranoid_ndroid> hi, where can I find help with gettext?
[07:45] <ooph> bekks: it has its own BIOS, which I used to create the array before this box ever saw an OS.
[07:45] <eristikophiles> i can open the case easily, but i would need to move the box a couple feet. that requires stretching several cables
[07:46] <bekks> And thats a very cheapo mainboard, it has no hardware raid controller. thats just a software raid controller.
[07:46] <pnorman> I have that motherboard (or one in the same line). It's fakeraid
[07:46] <ooph> the RAID controller is OS-agnostic. don't go getting all uber-geek high-and-mighty on me.
[07:47] <bekks> since you need windows drivers for it - thats a fakeraid controller.
[07:47] <pnorman> ooph: It requires special drivers to use. I know - I have it
[07:48] <ooph> hmm. now you're making me want to boot a few different LiveCDs to see if they can interact with it.
[07:48] <ooph> when i bought it, i was told the raid controller didn't care what OS was used.
[07:49] <maestrojed> I think I have a graphics card that is nice enough to require specific drivers. It is a EVGA GeForce 450GTS. When I run "Hardware Drivers" is says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system. I download the drivers but its a .run file. I don't know what to do
[07:49] <bekks> ooph: Someone told you a lie then.
[07:49] <ooph> bekks: it happens. was there a point you were trying to make, or are you just being ad hominem for no good reason?
[07:49] <bloopletech> I'm trying to upgrade from natty to oneiric, I'm doing sudo do-release-upgrade but it's giving me the "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks," error. when I grep the apt log for broken, there's no results
[07:49] <zjo> I'm getting sys/types.h: no such file or directory found after typing 'make' when trying to install www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/xppaut_latest.tar.gz. Any ideas?
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[07:50] <bekks> ooph: I am trying to make the point that you do not have a hardware raid controller.
[07:50] <bloopletech> zjo: do you have gcc etc. installed?
[07:50] <zjo> gcc? not sure.
[07:50] <bloopletech> sorry you obiously have make it's a silly question... one sec
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: you may want the xorg edgers updates ppa to get the 285 driver
[07:51] <ooph> bekks: and again, I ask what your point in attacking me is. that point is not valid for any discussion that is/was taking place.
[07:51] <bekks> ooph: I am sorry if you take that as an attack or insult.
[07:51] <bloopletech> zjo: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:51] <ooph> was there a point to saying it, or was it just a chance to point your finger at me and chant "neener neener, you got suckered"?
[07:52] <bekks> ooph: Lets just stop this discussion in here, ok?
[07:52] <jtannenbaum> http://i.imgur.com/UuRKC.png any easy way to fix this?
[07:52] <ooph> bekks: good idea. try "/part #ubuntu"
[07:53] <zjo> bloop: I did that and still getting the same error. In file included from main.h:6:0, from main.c:1:/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:38:21: fatal error: sys/types.h: no such file or directory.
[07:53] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip Ok, I am downloading those nvidia files, thank you. I am not sure what you meant in your second response
[07:53] <aguilat> i cant use wireless on a lenovo v460, rfkill shows acermodule loaded, any pointers?
[07:54] <gaodechen> Hi,everyone
[07:54] <gaodechen> i want to ask onr question
[07:54] <bloopletech> zjo: try reinstalling libc6-dev
[07:54] <gaodechen> hoe to install gtk+
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: nvidia-current installs the 280 driver. You have quite a new chip which may need the 285 driver which is in a 3rd party repo.
[07:55] <KillaByte> i am trying to record my desktop with  desktop recorder but when i select encode on the fly its way to fast and if i uncheck it it is pixeled
[07:55] <zjo> bloopletech: I'm a new user. I dont think I ever installed libc6-dev. How would I do that?
[07:55] <bloopletech> gaodechen: to do development with gtk, or what other reason?
[07:55] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip ahh, Ok. I will see what happens after this package comes down. If it doesn't work I will look into that
[07:55] <bloopletech> zjo: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> jtannenbaum: what language are the filenames?
[07:55] <jtannenbaum> ActionParsnip: japanese I believe
[07:56] <bloopletech> zjo: rather sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-dev
[07:56] <KillaByte> anyone know a decent desktop recorder for ubuntu 11.10
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> maestrojed: you'll need to reboot to enable the driver (easiest way)
[07:56] <maestrojed> ActionParsnip will do, thank you
[07:56] <bloopletech> jtannenbaum: where did you get the files from? were they correct before
[07:57] <jtannenbaum> from a zip file from a japanese band website
[07:57] <zjo> bloopletech: Same error :( .. I'm trying to install www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/xppaut_latest.tar.gz.
[07:57] <gaodechen> i want to write gtk program.and use glade.but glade3 does not match with gtk version
[07:57] <bloopletech> jtannenbaum: ah the filenames are most likely shift-jis encoded, you want to look for a
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> KillaByte: recordmydesktop or xvidcap
[07:57] <bloopletech> jtannenbaum: 'mp3 filename encoding fix tool' or somesuch
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !info xvidcap
[07:58] <jtannenbaum> eh this band isn't good enough to warrant. thanks though
[07:58] <bloopletech> zjo: I'm having a look
[07:58] <zjo> bloopletech: Thank you.
[07:59] <KillaByte> thanks actionparsnip
[07:59] <zjo> bloopletech: Does it matter what directory I'm in when I type 'sudo apt-get ... '
[07:59] <Thelmaria> zjo: Nope.
[07:59] <gaodechen> i want to write gtk program.and use glade.but glade3 does not match with gtk version.who can help me?thanks
[08:00] <aguilat> i cant use wireless on a lenovo v460, rfkill shows acermodule loaded, any pointers?
[08:01] <pnorman> I want to compile a package from source by hand and then install another package that depends on the first one. Is there a way to make it use my version of the first package instead of getting it again?
[08:01] <ooph> gaodechen: unless you're wanting the plugin, febreeze might do the trick
[08:01] <ooph> sorry, couldn't resist.
[08:02] <gaodechen> One question:how to install gnome 11?
[08:02] <gaodechen> In ubuntu11
[08:03] <ooph> gaodechen: use an earlier version of Ubuntu. Canonical decided we shouldn't have the option of using the old gnome, it doesn't fit with their policy of making us learn a new OS every 6 months.
[08:04] <gaodechen> oh,thanks very much
[08:04] <bloopletech> ooph: sorry, you're the same one who was attacking someone before for being ad hominem
[08:04] <bloopletech> make up your mind
[08:04] <zjo> bloopletech: Find anything?
[08:05] <bloopletech> zjo: I' trying to edit the makefile, will be  a little bit
[08:05] <ooph> aguilat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/43529/my-lenovo-ideapad-u165-wireless-doesnt-work
[08:05] <ooph> aguilat: the problem is apparently the acer driver getting in the way, if i am reading this correctly
[08:05] <zjo> Oh okay thanks. I googled my issue and everyone is saying libc6-dev fixed their problem. Not mine unfortunately :(
[08:06] <ooph> aguilat: the comments (answers) on that page seem to have a solution
[08:06] <tapout> so unity != gnome shell 3 eh?
[08:06] <aguilat> ooph, thanks! will look into it now
[08:06] <ooph> unity = ubuntu-specific. gnome3/gnome-shell = platform-independent.
[08:07] <ooph> gnome2 = gone. ooph = sad.
[08:07] <Auckla> :*(
[08:09] <bloopletech> zjo: do sudo apt-get install g++-multilib, then run make again
[08:09] <bloopletech> i just tried it and it built successfully for me
[08:11] <zjo> bloopletech: Okay one second.
[08:11] <bloopletech> I've got the 'Resolve generated breaks,	this may be caused by held packages' on upgrade natty => oneiric, but grepping the apt log shows no broken packages, what should I look at to try and fix it?
[08:12] <zjo> bloopletech: I got a bunch of scrolling warnings, then 'ld returned 1 exit status'
[08:12] <cirwin> hi, I'm looking to get myself a new SSD — and I'd like to find out what SATA version my chipset supports, what should I do?
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> cirwin: Google your motherboard.
[08:13] <metalforever> ^
[08:13] <zjo> bloopletech: usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11
[08:13] <zjo> that was the last line of all the warnings.
[08:13] <cirwin> tonyyarusso: ok, I'll try google — that seems like a boring answer :)
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> indeed
[08:14] <cirwin> I also noticed that disks don't show up in lspci, do they appear some place else?
[08:14] <bekks> disks never show up in lspci, they do in sudo fdisk -l
[08:15] <bloopletech> zjo: you also need to install the x11 dev libraries - you'
[08:15] <bloopletech> ll need to goole the package name
[08:15] <zjo> bloop: thanks.
[08:15] <KillaByte> how many arestill using ubuntu10.04?...instead of 11.10
[08:15] <cirwin> bekks: that doesn't show any info about the underlying hardware/manufacturer?
[08:16] <bekks> cirwin: Thats totally irrelevant for the disks themselves, so "no".
[08:16] <Guest34810> apa
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> KillaByte: lots
[08:16] <KillaByte> 11.10 seems off huh?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> cirwin: lshw
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> KillaByte: 11.10 is not an LTS release.
[08:17] <cirwin> tonyyarusso: awesome! thanks
[08:18] <KillaByte> thanks tony im new to ubuntu been on windows and trying to get to know my way around
[08:18] <Guest34810> hai...
[08:18] <Guest34810> hay..
[08:19] <metalforever> KillaByte: need any help?
[08:20] <KillaByte> was trying to get desktop recorder to work but rather it was pixeled out or video plays to fast
[08:20] <KillaByte> thinking of going to ubuntu 10.04
[08:21] <zjo> bloopletech: Did you find the correct package name?
[08:21] <ooph> KillaByte: Ubuntu 11.04 seems to be just as functional as 11.10, and you can select "Ubuntu Classic" as your desktop environment from the login screen. 10.04 is the LTS (Long Term Support) release, and is also a viable option.
[08:22] <ooph> 11.10, unfortunately, removed the ability to use "Ubuntu Classic"
[08:22] <huttan> Unity just take some gettin used to and it's pretty damn nice =)
[08:23] <KillaByte> ok last question i had win7 64 bit on here should i also install a 64 bit version of ubuntu being i have 4gb of ram?
[08:23] <llutz_> KillaByte: yes
[08:23] <ooph> huttan: "it just takes some getting used to" was the reason I was able to convert many of my friends from Windows Vista/7 to Ubuntu in the first place.
[08:23] <KillaByte> kool thank yall so much
[08:25] <HulkHogan> unity sucks actually
[08:25] <ooph> HulkHogan: yep. Ubuntu was stealing disgruntled windows users left and right, and then they decided to try to force their userbase to MacOS. not a smart move.
[08:26] <metalforever> ooph: lol
[08:26] <metalforever> my problem with the distro is that it feels "slow"
[08:26] <HulkHogan> ooph: =) true
[08:26] <metalforever> "<ooph> 11.10, unfortunately, removed the ability to use "Ubuntu Classic""
[08:26] <metalforever> really?
[08:27] <metalforever> not upgrading the other pc then
[08:27] <HulkHogan> u can get gnome3 fallback mode but is not the same
[08:27] <ircc> [6~[5~[6~[5~[6~[6~[5~
[08:27] <Philosoraptor> .w 11
[08:27] <metalforever> i kind of dont like gnome 3 either
[08:27] <metalforever> its slow.
[08:28] <metalforever> ubuntu 11.04 was slow with 4gb ram..
[08:28] <scriptwarlock> do we need to rant here?
[08:28] <ooph> it was bad enough when they moved the buttons to the wrong (left) side of the windows... but that was "easily" fixable with gconf-edit. now they've broken a good thing, with no more reason than wanting to make a tablet OS. My PC is a PC, not a tablet, not a smartphone. I have a right mouse-button, I intend to be able to right-click. I don't want icons that are an inch and a half across on my
[08:28] <ooph> 23" 1080p display.
[08:28] <metalforever> did they figure that out yet?
[08:28]  * metalforever is using slack
[08:28] <metalforever> >_>
[08:28] <bekks> metalforever: the amount of ram is more than enough if having 4GB.
[08:28] <metalforever> i cant deal with the new gnome
[08:28] <metalforever> then its just slow..
[08:29] <metalforever> its not like I had a lot installed, just the usual
[08:29] <scriptwarlock> we can talk/rant a lot in ubuntu-offtopic
[08:29] <ooph> scriptwarlock: yes, we need to rant here. we need to rant on every forum, in every channel, and everywhere we think we can get Canonical's attention. they're losing users in droves because they decided they knew better than their users what their users want to do.
[08:29] <oobiloz> there is such a channeL?
[08:29] <llutz_> !ot
[08:29] <oobiloz> so there is
[08:29] <ooph> I would cheerfully graffiti it on the side of their building, if it would guarantee they would fix this change.
[08:30] <metalforever> what we really need is something thats actually a democracy, IMO
[08:30] <ooph> negative.
[08:30] <ooph> democracy = tyranny of the majority.
[08:30] <metalforever> ah..
[08:30] <metalforever> this might be true.
[08:30] <ooph> what we need is to be given our choices back.
[08:30] <huttan> ooph, sad but true :)
[08:30] <HulkHogan> ooph: go KDE?
[08:30] <metalforever> I dont know what I am going to do in coming months because KDE 4 makes me inefficient and gnome 3 is just as bad..
[08:31] <ooph> i hate KDE. tried it. couldn't stand it.
[08:31] <smw> ooph, very true
[08:31] <metalforever> xfce doesnt work with wine very well
[08:31] <llutz_> ooph: there are felt 2 mio distros available, pick your choice but stop your offtopic rants here. respect the rules, pls
[08:31] <scriptwarlock> ok they have gieven us the ubuntu-oftopic channel so off we go?!
[08:31] <metalforever> I think that this is quite an "ontopic" discussion...
[08:31] <scriptwarlock> or else be kicked
[08:31] <llutz_> metalforever: its not, this is SUPPORT not rants
[08:31] <metalforever> ah..
[08:32] <ooph> I'm about to switch to CEntOS 6 because it's the only distro I can find that still uses Gnome2. Apparently, CEntOS cares more about being "rock-solid stable" than about being "the latest flavor-of-the-week".
[08:32] <zjo> I am getting an error that says /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11. I typed 'make' to install something and this is what it gives me.
[08:32] <ooph> I do WORK on my PC. I expect my PC to WORK. Consistently, and in a consistent manner.
[08:32] <metalforever> ooph: lets switch this over to ubuntu-offtopic
[08:32] <HulkHogan> ooph: u can try MATE
[08:32] <metalforever> i have some comments
[08:32] <huttan> It's alot of whining on ubuntu..we're on linux, so we can configure whatever we want to suit our needs? :)
[08:33] <huttan> back to real work..
[08:33] <ooph> huttan: try putting gnome2 back on ubuntu 11.10. let me know if you succeed. this is not sarcasm.
[08:33] <HulkHogan> ooph: why not just use 10.10
[08:34] <strix_> zjo: try sudo apt-get install libx11-dev
[08:34] <ooph> HulkHogan: because I want to know that my distro is supported?
[08:35] <huttan> 10.10 is LTS...
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> huttan: No it's not - 10.04 is
[08:35] <llutz_> huttan: it's not, 10.04 is
[08:35] <huttan> thats right, sorry =(
[08:35] <HulkHogan> ooph: well 10.04 then it got another year of support
[08:35] <zjo> strix_: I already have that installed.
[08:36] <ooph> HulkHogan: and what do i do in 18 months?
[08:36] <vooze> Is it just me or is the gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.10 really bad? I used gnome-shell in Archlinux without bugs or anyyhing.. but it keeps crashing in ubuntu, filezilla drag n' drop etc. dont work.. Is it really that buggy or just me ?: (
[08:37] <ooph> HulkHogan: maybe you should join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:38] <eristikophiles> ok, here's perhaps an odd question. how do i invoke grub-mkconfig from a liveDVD to run based on values not in the /etc/default/grub of the liveDVD's /etc but from a mounted other /etc on the actual hard disk?
[08:39] <jeevagan> hi
[08:40] <FishFace> ooph: Got KDE loaded. This I can work with :)
[08:40] <FishFace> At least the panel is back on the bottom.
[08:41] <eristikophiles> lol
[08:41] <HulkHogan> KDE is nice actually
[08:41] <HulkHogan> u can have many diff shells
[08:41] <HulkHogan> and still switch between them
[08:41] <FishFace> Yep
[08:41] <FishFace> This is nice
[08:41] <ooph> I disagree. That's the beauty of having a choice; we can decide we don't like the same things another person, and not be forced to eat them anyway.
[08:43] <strix_> zjo: strange, it builds on my laptop with only g++-multilib & libx11-dev installed
[08:44] <zjo> strix_: I get a whole list of errors :/
[08:46] <Kre10s_> #kubuntu-devel
[08:47] <eristikophiles> HulkHogan- dude.. i just realized how that works.
[08:47] <zjo> strix_: pastebin.com/YRvZweR9
[08:47] <zjo> those are all the errors im getting after typing 'make'
[08:47] <eristikophiles> had to try it on a box that wouldn't dump me in terminal with no way of checking for an answer online (the broken one)
[08:47] <eristikophiles> XD
[08:47] <eristikophiles> am happy..
[08:47] <HulkHogan> eristikophiles: what?
[08:48] <eristikophiles> you know i've used KDE for like, 6 years now, and i never really sank the concept of ctrl-alt-F# into my head?
[08:48] <bekks> zjo: line 208
[08:48] <eristikophiles> i knew you could get into terminals that way, but i never figured out how to get back to the gui
[08:48] <eristikophiles> i just searched and found it
[08:48] <eristikophiles> ..strange
[08:48] <llutz_> eristikophiles: alt-f7
[08:49] <zjo> bekks: How do I fix that?
[08:49] <HulkHogan> eristikophiles: not sure what ur talking about
[08:49] <eristikophiles> llutz_- yeah i just saw
[08:49] <llutz_> eristikophiles: and that has nothing to do with the DE/WM you use
[08:49] <eristikophiles> it's amazing. i'm wondering why i run terminals in gui now lol
[08:49] <eristikophiles> though i guess, i can still see my clocks and stuff when i do
[08:50] <eristikophiles> hm. i think when i started using kde, this feature broke my box at the time.
[08:50] <eristikophiles> must be why i forgot about it
[08:50] <eristikophiles> llutz_- really? it's kernel-specific?
[08:50] <ooph> eristikophiles: yakuake for KDE, Guake for Gnome. one-button access to toggle the terminal
[08:51] <ooph> GUI-mode only, of course.
[08:51] <metalforever> i just put a terminal button on my gnome 2 panel.
[08:51] <HulkHogan> tty screen?
[08:51] <llutz_> eristikophiles: X starts on the 1st console not occupied by a tty. for some historical reasons, most distros run 6 tty, so X runs on 7
[08:51] <ooph> metalforever: why use the mouse to open an app you're going to be using secifically with the keyboard?
[08:51] <bekks> zjo: Try installing libx11-dev
[08:52] <ooph> F12, type, enter, F12, terminal slides back up into the top of the screen...
[08:52]  * metalforever uses slack
[08:52] <metalforever> so..
[08:52] <metalforever> If i want command line only.
[08:52] <metalforever> i just dont start x.
[08:52] <metalforever> simple as
[08:52] <zjo> bekks: I've already done that. Any other suggestions?
[08:53] <eristikophiles> llutz_- i was just reading xorg docs.. i realized it must be there.. also know why on bsd it didn't let me get back: bsd uses all 12 f-keys
[08:53] <llutz_>  eristikophiles "ls -l /etc/init/tty*"  disable tty6.conf  and restart. your X will start on tty6 then
[08:53] <eristikophiles> so there's not one to press to get back lol
[08:53] <bekks> zjo: Did you install libX11-dev, too? Caution, xaps are intended.
[08:54] <eristikophiles> llutz_- i see now. cool
[08:55] <ooph> metalforever: well yeah, but that's like stepping back into the dark ages of DOS 5.0/Windows 3.0 - boot, play around on the command line, then type "win" or "startx" and get your GUI on.
[08:55] <eristikophiles> still, i also see now why i didn't learn that trick 6 years ago- freebsd uses all of F1 to F12 for tty so there was no f-key leftover to press to get back
[08:55] <zjo> bekks: yes.
[08:55] <metalforever> "ooph"
[08:55] <metalforever> i like it.
[08:55]  * metalforever is in computer engineering.
[08:55] <metalforever> it allows me to get my vi groove on
[08:55] <ooph> thought you were a web developer
[08:55] <metalforever> that too
[08:56] <ooph> heh
[08:56] <metalforever> im in school
[08:56] <metalforever> ive been doing web development for 6 years
[08:56] <metalforever> right now i do it on the side to pay for food
[08:56] <metalforever> but im actually attending CMU for computer engineering.
[08:56] <HulkHogan> F1-F6 = tty, F7-F12 = gui
[08:59] <eristikophiles> huh. on the liveDVD, f7 is just blank. f8 is needed to get back
[09:00] <eristikophiles> ..and on this box, f8+ are blank
[09:00] <eristikophiles> ..and i do recall trying in freebsd. all 12 were cli terminals
[09:00] <zjo> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to execute an executable. Any ideas?
[09:00] <eristikophiles> anyway
[09:00] <eristikophiles> back to messing with grub
[09:01] <rostayob> how can I check which services will start automatically?
[09:01] <Ycarene> Where can I find a list of all of the services that start up automatically?
[09:02] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi everyone.  I have a problem when I try to open my trash directory from  nautilus.  it gives back the output: "Sorry, could not display all the contents of  "trash": Operation not supported"
[09:02] <crimscx> does ubuntu support intel turbo boost yet?
[09:03] <zhangfei> ni hao
[09:03] <ooph> Us3r_Unfriendly: probably too much trash in the GUI. There's a hard limit set somewhere, I bet.
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> granted I could sudo rm -frv ~/.local/share/Trash/* ,but I want my system to work properly
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ooph: nope There's nothing in it now.
[09:03] <Us3r_Unfriendly> ooph: both root and $User, there's nothing in it
[09:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> also there's no Computer icon either
[09:05] <Us3r_Unfriendly> weird
[09:05] <eristikophiles> ok so i replaced the liveDVD's /etc/default/grub with the one i edited. i then ran grub-mkconfig -o [whereiwantthe grub.cfg] .. it returns an error, saying that grub-probe can't "find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)" .. this is odd. how is /dev supposed to be mounted? or does it mean is / mounted on a dev? or what?
[09:06] <frogoscar> #linuxembedded
[09:06] <eristikophiles> man grub-probe doesn't help. i mean, i get how grub-probe works now, but i don't suppose i can get grub-mkconfig do what i want so easily
[09:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: sudo mount --bind /mnt/dev/ /dev/              or where ever
[09:06] <frogoscar> #linuxembedded
[09:06] <Us3r_Unfriendly> i'm better at cli than I am with gui lol
[09:07] <eristikophiles> hm. so i use --bind to remap the hd's partitions for / and /boot over where the liveDVD thinks they are? then i can just run grub-mkconfig as i please?
[09:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: you mount it with the --bind flag and mount your dev off your harddrive to your dev in your live environment
[09:07] <eristikophiles> hm wait. i can't unmount /boot though can i?
[09:07] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: yeah
[09:08] <eristikophiles> ok. i guess at worst i'll mess up my precious RAM-only liveDVD stuff
[09:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"
[09:08] <Ycarene> How do I remove a program from starting when I boot my computer?
[09:08] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: what program
[09:08] <luca> dear friends I have a problem with moonlight
[09:09] <Thelmaria> luca: So shut the curtains at night.
[09:09] <Us3r_Unfriendly> luca: that might be browser related
[09:09] <luca> thelmaria: ahahah very funny :) I'm using chromium
[09:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> luca: what's the problem?
[09:10] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - Well, I had apache for testing purposes and even after uninstalling it, it somehow starts on boot.  I know it has to do with /etc/default  and /etc/init but I can't really figure it out as its so different than using runlevels.
[09:10] <luca> it doesn't work
[09:10] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: so "sudo service apache stop" ,does this work??
[09:10] <luca> I am on youdem tv
[09:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> luca: sorry i don't know what that is
[09:11] <ooph> Ycarene: i *think* you can get to "Startup Programs" via the "system control" menu under your name on the top-right, but I'm not certain that's where Canonical moved it to when they decided we all needed "PlaySchool's My first Tablet" on our desktop PCs.
[09:11] <luca> it is the television of Partito Democratico
[09:11] <eristikophiles> huh, seems to have worked
[09:11] <Ycarene> ooph - that's more for sessions I think.
[09:11] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: thanks for your thanks i guess
[09:11] <eristikophiles> time to reboot
[09:12] <luca> It needed Silverlight I pushed the bottom and installed moonlight but now it doesn't work
[09:12] <eristikophiles> Us3r_Unfriendly- if it does work, i will thank you formally :)
[09:12] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - that works, but how do I get it so I don't have to do that after rebooting.  (had to use apache2)
[09:12] <eristikophiles> :)
[09:12] <zjo> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to execute an executable. Any ideas?
[09:12] <eristikophiles> i got several errors but it exited clean
[09:12] <bekks> zjo: You did not install libX11
[09:12] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: so you uninstalled apache correct and you don't want the system files still on your machine correct??
[09:12] <zjo> yes.
[09:12] <bekks> zjo: Then install it :)
[09:12] <eristikophiles> apparently the hw raid array (turned off) caused some errors but it seems to have decided to deal with them and move on
[09:13] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - that's part of it, yes.
[09:13] <zjo> bekks: I did install it already I meant to say.
[09:13] <Ycarene> getting it to not start would be enough though.
[09:13] <HulkHogan> zjo: probally an old version or a new one, best if u symlink it to an existing file
[09:13] <luca> I'm trying with firefox now maybe the problem is the browser
[09:13] <eristikophiles> nope. grub rescue is all that boots ;p
[09:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: this should work for the /etc/ part:      sudo find /etc/ -iname "*apache*" -exec rm -frv {} \;
[09:13] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: try that
[09:14] <zjo> bekks: The file is located on my system under the following location: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[09:14] <llutz_> Ycarene: disable "Start on xxxx"  in /etc/init/apache.conf
[09:14] <zjo> HulkHogan: I dont know what thatmeans, I'm a new user.
[09:14] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: and reboot.  apache should not start seeing that the run level don't have apache there anymore
[09:14] <eristikophiles> the odd part is that i turned off the UUID function, and it *still* shows "error: no such device: [UUID]"
[09:14] <Ycarene> llutz_ - that's, I think that's what I was looking for.
[09:14] <bekks> zjo: Could you nopaste the output of "lsb_release -a" please?
[09:15] <llutz_> Ycarene: and pls don't just remove some fiels from /etc, it might break more things than it helps
[09:15] <llutz_> files
[09:15] <HulkHogan> zjo: try entering locate libX11.so
[09:15] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: what do you mean.  I guess I never knew the exact problem
[09:16] <HulkHogan> zjo: u might see a different version
[09:16] <Ycarene> llutz_ - I wasn't going to, heh
[09:16] <eristikophiles> i've been trying to install kubuntu on a second hd.. this box has windows on the first hd, and the second had ubuntu.. but it was glitchy and messed up, so i clean wiped that drive and installed kubuntu
[09:16] <eristikophiles> only now the boot loader is messed up
[09:16] <eristikophiles> lol
[09:16] <DigitalNinja> when I mount a nfs share it always has the group set to root, but i need to seet it so that the group dev has RW access.
[09:17] <DigitalNinja> how do i do that
[09:17] <widewake> hey there.  Mozilla wont recognize my 3rdparty webcam device WebCamStudio, Epiphany browser recognizes it, though mozilla wont. Heelp
[09:17] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: so you want to redo grub2 on the drive correct
[09:17] <eristikophiles> yeah i've been reading on it and trying different things
[09:17] <zjo> bekks: nopaste.info/87662eade4.html
[09:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> DigitalNinja: /etc/fstab
[09:18] <eristikophiles> heh. i think i may have found the issue
[09:18] <Ycarene> Ok, now I shouldn't break anything if I blow away avahi should I?
[09:18] <Us3r_Unfriendly> cruicfied already
[09:18] <strix_> zjo: ah, you may need ia32-libs, try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:19] <widewake> Mozilla wont recognize my 3rdparty webcam device WebCamStudio, Epiphany browser recognizes it, though mozilla wont any ideas?
[09:19] <zjo> HulkHogan: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6
[09:19] <eristikophiles> i thought the option for booting into 'command' mode meant it would boot into a cli-based menu.
[09:19] <HulkHogan> zjo: what was the error again
[09:20] <zjo> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to execute an executable. Any ideas?
[09:20] <HulkHogan> zjo: is basically looking in the wrong folder
[09:20] <HulkHogan> zjo: so u can fix that by using symlink
[09:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: I agree with lluts by not removing files from /etc/, but apache is the exception.  BUT in this case I would rather have you install: "bum"...lluts: do you agree this would be a good solution??
[09:21] <zjo> HulkHogan: I'm a first day user of Ubuntu / Linux, no Idea what that means.
[09:21] <llutz_> Us3r_Unfriendly: i don't since i don't know what "bum" is
[09:21] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: bum is the boot up manager that offers a nice gui to services that you can turn off from boot with a single click of a mouse
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> !bum
[09:22] <Ycarene> I fixed the apache issue, did a look through synaptic and found it was still installed for some reason, now I'm just wondering if it's a good idea to get rid of some of the other processor hog programs, and avahi is high on my list.
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> avahi is good
[09:22] <Us3r_Unfriendly> !avahi
[09:22] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - but will I break anything if I remove it?
[09:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: which one?
[09:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: avahi?
[09:23] <HulkHogan> zjo: what program is this for
[09:23] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - yes
[09:23] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Avahi is a free zeroconf implementation, including a system for multicast DNS/DNS-SD service discovery. It is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
[09:23] <llutz_> Us3r_Unfriendly: i'd prefer sysv-rc-conf but anyways. use whatever works for you. upstart still lacks tools/documentation
[09:23] <Ycarene> us3r-unfriendly - or zeitgeist
[09:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: ?
[09:25] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: I'd keep it running
[09:25] <DigitalNinja> the setting in fstab allow me to set group?
[09:25] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - yes, avahi, zeitgeist, some others, can I uninstall them?
[09:26] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: I'd do some google-ing before removing certain services.  Might turn you might need these and some you don't
[09:26] <llutz_> DigitalNinja: you use chown/chmod/chgrp if you don't have user-squash enabled on your nfs-server
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> llutz_: i think that might be my problem
[09:27] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - removed avahi, zeitgeist and tracker.
[09:27] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: okay from synaptic or from bum????
[09:27] <Ycarene> synaptic
[09:28] <eristikophiles> ok no, i didn't have the command option enabled. it's commented out
[09:28] <eristikophiles> ;p
[09:28] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - synaptic
[09:28] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: i would have used bum, that way you could re-enable it if you need it
[09:28] <llutz_> DigitalNinja: if your group "dev" on client needs write-permission, the group has to have writeaccess on server. if the groups are identical on both systems, you have to map them. have fun...
[09:28] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - I didn't see anything that would be explicitly broken by removing them, so they're gone.
[09:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: when you reboot your machine
[09:29] <fatboy21007> i need some help , for 4 days now i keep askin this question but not one has helped me, My mmo keeps gettin a socket errors im on 11.10 all stuff is 100% updated and yet i get this log and a winsock error that wont go away    http://pastebin.com/as46PihR          I would be very greatful if some1 would help me solve this
[09:29] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: ...you might run into some problems
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> our users and groups are identical, ah kk i was trying to do it on the client...pretty sure i have made this exact mistake 20 times now
[09:30] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: that's like removing all kernel files in your machine and then rebooting to find out you have a problem
[09:30] <Ycarene> us3r_unfriendly - I don't see what, avahi seemed to be for automatic network discovery, which I don't use, zeitgeist is a logger which didn't seem relevant and tracker was a dependency of unity which I'm not using either.
[09:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Ycarene: cool, like i said, some people might need it and some might not
[09:31] <Ycarene> We'll see on the reboot I guess
[09:31] <Us3r_Unfriendly> eristikophiles: is it cool if i private message you to work on your problem??
[09:32] <llutz_> Ycarene: if those packages were really needed, you couldn't just remove them. so either you're fine now without them, or the packages are heavily broken if something won't run after reboot
[09:32] <eristikophiles> yeah sure
[09:33] <Ycarene> llutz_ - Nothing of note was removed, parts of unity(I run xfce) and it re-installed wine, that was it.
[09:34] <llutz_> Ycarene: so you should be fine. avahi etc are useless in most cases imho
[09:34] <widewake> http://www.blogtv.com/people/TheBearX this is happening with webcam studio, any idear?
[09:35] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:37] <Ycarene> brb
[09:39] <tresorine> hello
[09:39] <zeroblock> hi
[09:40] <fatboy21007> :-(
[09:42] <Industrial> I have a complaint / question about the ubuntu software center. What's the best place to go with it so I can talk with the people working on it? I think it's really user unfriendly as it is.
[09:42] <Industrial> (compared to synapti workflow0
[09:42] <Industrial> synaptic workflow*
[09:43] <cristian_c> I have a problem. To make working the keyboard with special keys, I had to install a program called keytouch and use the editor to configure the buttons on the device. Despite keytouch editor recognizes the keys on the fly and its natural features, some keys captured codes identify codes different from those associated with the same keys captured by xev. The system then, when you press these buttons, instead of using
[09:43] <cristian_c> the keytouch codes, enables the xev codes, and thus the keytouch configuration is wrong and these keys do not work. Then the problem is as follows: disabling xev into the system and replacing it with keytouch or other alternative software. I was told that it should be necessary to work with udev. What I am asking you is: what should I touch?
[09:44] <cristian_c> I searched long and hard on google about how to disable xev, but I found nothing :(
[09:45] <bekks> cristian_c: xev is just an app. Stop it, and it isnt there :)
[09:45] <cristian_c> bekks, thanks for the answer :)
[09:46] <cristian_c> bekks, how can I stop xev?
[09:47] <llutz_> chitragupt: xev just shows you x-events. it does not affect them/change them
[09:47] <llutz_> cristian_c: ^^
[09:48] <Ycarene> Everything seems fine here.
[09:48] <eristikophiles> you have been eaten by a grue
[09:48] <cristian_c> llutz_, So what should I disable?
[09:48] <eristikophiles> (just when everything seems fine..)
[09:48] <Ycarene> This might be outside the scope of this channel, but I've got issues with ipv6, it takes forever to make a connection, though once connected, seems to run fine.
[09:48] <cristian_c> :)
[09:49] <Industrial> I have a complaint / question about the ubuntu software center. What's the best place to go with it so I can talk with the people working on it? I think it's really user unfriendly as it is.
[09:49] <llutz_> cristian_c: no idea, it's just not "xev" sry
[09:49] <Industrial> it reloads the whole screen every time a package finishes in or uninstalling
[09:50] <Industrial> try doing 30 packages
[09:50] <cristian_c> llutz_, ok, then I return to the starting point :(
[09:50] <Industrial> youll go crazy trying to navigate back to where you were in the itnerface 30 times
[09:50] <Industrial> hell its a queue, act like a queue :|
[09:50] <Industrial> (like apt get)
[09:51] <llutz_> Industrial: https://launchpad.net/software-center   look for contact/devs
[09:51] <Industrial> thanks
[09:52] <kanha> I have fixed a bug(LP :#818475) and applied for sponsorship on 2011-10-27  but it is not reviewed yet can someone tell me what can be the reason for delay of review?
[09:53] <koshieFinalReliz> Hi
[09:53] <koshieFinalReliz> Anyone know on Xfce 4.8 how to configure dual screen ? I've my two screen but I want to use the both, one at left and one at right, not like clone.
[09:54] <llutz_> kanha:  ask in #launchpad
[09:54] <aaa_> where can i get help with installing OpenELEC.tv? when i try the next command, it tells me "command not found": sudo ./create_installstick /dev/sdb
[09:56] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, are you in the same directory than create_installstick ?
[09:56] <koshieFinalReliz> :)
[09:57] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: What graphics driver?
[09:57] <koshieFinalReliz> soreau, Intel graphic card, on a laptop.
[09:57] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: Have you tried xrandr?
[09:58] <aaa_> koshieFinalReliz, yes, the file is listed when i use dir
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> On GNOME 2-3 (Untiy / GNOME-SHELL) / KDE 4 that work well
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, dir ?!
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> soreau, There is no graphical interface ?
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> (yes, on Lxde, that don't work very well or I'm not good at this)
[09:58] <aaa_> the command to list files from windows seams to work here too...
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> er
[09:58] <koshieFinalReliz> type ls
[09:58] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: I don't know about for xfce but xrandr is a sure fire method. Otherwise, you could configure xorg.conf
[09:59] <aaa_> does the same with colors
[09:59] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, ok, do you have the script ?
[09:59] <koshieFinalReliz> soreau, grmph, I will try that again, thank you :p
[10:00] <aaa_> yes, it's a text file
[10:00] <koshieFinalReliz> So why command not found ?
[10:00] <koshieFinalReliz> Gimme the ls output, paste it if it's to big.
[10:00] <peterdawson> hi guys, amarock keeps asking me for the mp3 codec. whats wrong?
[10:00] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, you don't have mp3 codec ? :]
[10:01] <aaa_> that's what i'm asking. here is the output:
[10:01] <peterdawson> koshieFinalReliz, i installed kubuntu yesterday night because i had a strange virus on windows lol
[10:01] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, :)
[10:01] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, you're new so ?
[10:01] <soreau> koshieFinalReliz: It's pretty easy to do, just have to know the output names. Something like xrandr --output VGA-0 --left-of S-video, or whatever your outputs are named
[10:01] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$ sudo ./create_installstick /dev/sdb
[10:01] <Industrial> llutz_: https://answers.launchpad.net/software-center/+question/177635
[10:01] <aaa_> sudo: ./create_installstick: command not found
[10:01] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$
[10:01] <peterdawson> koshieFinalReliz, kinda, yes. i used ubuntu for a short time before
[10:01] <koshieFinalReliz> .mp3 can't be installed on Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Lubuntu / Xubuntu per defaut, but you can install it
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, no dude :)
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> I want the output of the ls command, nothing else
[10:02] <peterdawson> so how do i install the mp3 codec manually?
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> and if it's more than two lines paste it on www.pastinbin.com
[10:02] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$ ls
[10:02] <aaa_> 3rdparty     create_installstick      licenses      RELEASE
[10:02] <aaa_> Autorun.inf  create_installstick.bat  openelec.ico  sample.conf
[10:02] <aaa_> CHANGELOG    INSTALL                  README        target
[10:02] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~/Desktop/OpenELEC$
[10:02] <FloodBot1> aaa_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, if my memory is not dead there is apackage for all codecs, wait
[10:02] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, seriously, dude, read
[10:03] <koshieFinalReliz> I've say pasteit
[10:03] <nikolam> peterdawson, I usually add medibuntu repository and install decs from there
[10:03] <koshieFinalReliz> http://pastebin.com/
[10:03] <peterdawson> nikolam, how do i add medibuntu?
[10:04] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:04] <koshieFinalReliz> there is your hapiness just right here :)
[10:05] <aaa_> Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> peterdawson, if you have a question we're here :)
[10:05] <nikolam> peterdawson, help.ubuntu.com is your friend.  But with google javascript on. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[10:05] <peterdawson> koshieFinalReliz, thanks. ill try out
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> there is 12434 different website of this kind :)
[10:05] <koshieFinalReliz> aaa_, i'm not sure but try to chmod 777 (like a newbie, me :D) the script
[10:06] <nikolam> There is http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:06] <koshieFinalReliz> and try the sudo ./script /dev/sdb
[10:07] <aaa_> ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/728926/
[10:08] <nikolam> peterdawson, you basically have all you would ever need in medibuntu.
[10:08] <aaa_> chmod: missing operand after `777'
[10:09] <bekks> aaa_: You have to tell chmod which files/directories do you want to change.
[10:10] <aaa_> aaa@aaa-desktop:~$ chmod 777 create_installstick
[10:10] <aaa_> chmod: cannot access `create_installstick': No such file or directory
[10:10] <bekks> aaa_: Thats the wrong name obviously :)
[10:11] <peterdawson> how do i install medibuntu?
[10:12] <aaa_> chmod worked (it was the wrong terminal window with the wrong directory
[10:12] <Stanley00> peterdawson: the same as install ubuntu, I think.
[10:13] <aaa_> the script is running. thanks guys
[10:14] <oCean> peterdawson: http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[10:17] <peterdawson> i installed medibuntu but amarock still keeps asking for the mp3 codec
[10:19] <llutz_> peterdawson: install libxine1-plugins
[10:20] <jisaacs1207> Hey, I am pulling my hair out here trying to set up my first dns zone. Could anyone please answer some questions?
[10:20] <betahita> I have installed Nvidia driver from "additional driver" but the resolution still not fit yet to the sreen. (i use Oneiric) (Geforce 8400GS)
[10:22] <Ycarene> I'm an idiot.
[10:22] <jisaacs1207> I am worse.
[10:23] <Ycarene> I got a new router and afterwords my ipv6 wouldn't connect, it took me a week to realize that with the new mac address my ISP would give it a different address, I updated my ipv4 client endpoint and now it's blazing again.
[10:24] <Ycarene> brb
[10:26] <Kre10s_> ok. so I created a ppa on launchpad, and added a package to it...
[10:27] <Kre10s_> using dput ppa:bla bla source.changes... The command exited successfully, but i do not see the package in my ppa... whats up with that?
[10:28] <llutz_> Kre10s_: you might better ask in #launchpad
[10:29] <jisaacs1207> llutz_ : Do you think you could look at a dns zone file for me and tell me if i did it incorrectly?
[10:29] <llutz_> jisaacs1207: nope
[10:29] <jisaacs1207> llutz : thanks
[10:30] <addiks> Hi, ive upgraded to 11.10 and now X is not starting anymore. I have to [ctr]+[alt]+[f1], login as a user and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" to run it. How to repair that?
[10:30] <llutz_> jisaacs1207: you should find versed guys in #bind
[10:31] <kikl> Hi everybody. I am learning python. I have read "A byte of python" and am planning to work through thinkpython and diveintopython. I am going to have to practice my acquired skills. Could Ubuntu give me assignments that benefit ubuntu and help me learn how to program python?
[10:39] <peterdawson> which skype version should i use? the one for ubuntu?
[10:39] <peterdawson> im using kubuntu btw
[10:39] <Stanley00> kikl: I hear that there is an app called quick, that use python to make app for Ubuntu, you could look at it
[10:40] <Sonderblade> this is a strange problem.. keyboard repeat on my keyboard has stopped working :)
[10:40] <slikke> download it from skype's website if you want the official one
[10:41] <kikl> Stanley00: Thanks, I'll take a look at it;-)
[10:41] <Stanley00> kikl: np ;)
[10:41] <szal> slikke: isn't the one from the partner repo the official one?
[10:42] <nikolam> I am unable to report a bug. I re-installed Firefox from repo and not helping it: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/728958/
[10:42] <slikke> i think the repo one is quite buggy
[10:42] <slikke> i used the website release and had no problem
[10:42] <slikke> but i'm maybe wrong =)
[10:44] <szal> slikke: what ver. does the website offer?
[10:45] <yashdesai> v11.10
[10:45] <szal> yashdesai: Skype, not Ubuntu ;)
[10:45] <slikke> dunno i didn't check it for a while :/
[10:45] <yashdesai> v5.1
[10:45] <yashdesai> :)
[10:45] <slikke> xD
[10:45] <yashdesai> which then upgrades to v7
[10:45] <yashdesai> after a week of runtime
[10:46] <szal> yashdesai: definitely not, unless you mean the Windows version
[10:47] <szal> (version of which isn't given on the download page)
[10:47] <Sterist> how do i extract a 7zip that's in 10 parts?
[10:47] <szal> for Linux it says 2.2 beta, which should be the same as Version: 2.2.0.35-0natty1 that's in the partner repo
[10:47] <szal> Sterist: same as any other split archive, I guess
[10:48] <Sterist> szal please do elaborate :)
[10:48] <szal> you extract either the first or the last file in the series, the others get extracted automatically in the process
[10:48] <ooph> how can I get my Ubuntu installation to look, feel, and act like it did before I upgraded to 11.10?
[10:48] <llutz_> ooph: you can't
[10:49] <llutz_> ooph: and pls refuse your childish "ah oh uh canonical broke my toy" this time
[10:50] <ooph> sorry... forgive me for asking a question in the hopes that with a slightly different user list that some new, fresh face might have an answer.
[10:50] <szal> llutz_: refuse?
[10:51] <llutz_> avoid
[10:51] <szal> refrain from
[10:51] <darth_alakazam> hello
[10:51] <llutz_> szal: thanks, noted it
[10:52] <darth_alakazam> im new in using xubuntu
[10:53] <szal> darth_alakazam: and?
[10:53] <brontosaurusrex> ooph, shortly you cant, longer version: you may want to use gnome classic mode, the secret to change the panel apperance is to hold ALT before right clicking on those
[10:54] <paul__> guys
[10:54] <brontosaurusrex> alien?
[10:54] <paul__> how do i install skype? its not in the software installer and the ubuntu installer doesnt work on kubuntu
[10:54] <darth_alakazam> where cn i find support # 4 xubuntu
[10:55] <szal> !partner | paul__
[10:55] <dc5ala> paul__, you need to activate partner repo
[10:55] <szal> paul__: enable that, then install Skype
[10:55] <bazhang> darth_alakazam, #xubuntu
[10:56] <dany> ok
[10:57] <darth_alakazam> any1?
[10:57] <paul__> i did that but nothing happens
[10:59] <brontosaurusrex> !ask | darth_alakazam
[11:00] <_r00t_> !nopatience
[11:00] <phlak_user> !patience
[11:00]  * phlak_user o_O
[11:01] <_r00t_> hello phlak_user ask a question or gtfo
[11:02] <brontosaurusrex> "while you wait phlak_user will serve refreshing drinks"
[11:02] <phlak_user> !language | r00
[11:02] <phlak_user> !language | _r00t_
[11:02] <_r00t_> !typing skills | write phlak_user
[11:03] <_r00t_> !mark shuttleworth
[11:04] <_r00t_> !do you love mark shuttleworth
[11:04] <paul__> i added Canonical Partner Repository, what should i do now?
[11:04] <szal> !pmthebot | _r00t_
[11:04] <_r00t_> !what is pm
[11:04] <phlak_user> can someone pl rid us of this misery?
[11:04] <nikolam> darth_alakazam, version 4? Install latest (x)ubuntu release. there is also #xubuntu channel
[11:04] <zetheroo> Will this work in 11.10?  https://launchpad.net/~tp-fan/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=jaunty
[11:05] <szal> paul__: refresh package sources and install Skype
[11:05] <sattu94> "sabdl" that's his middle name?
[11:05] <sattu94> "sabdfl" ?
[11:05] <_r00t_> !sabdl
[11:05] <NixGeek> I'm trying to route music from VLC to a teamspeak cleint for a music bot.  I have it on our dedicated server, with a basic openbox installtion and vncserver.  I have everything open and working, but how can I route adio from VLC to Teamspeak.  The server DOES NOT have a sound card.
[11:05] <llutz_> !botabuse | _r00t_
[11:06] <szal> ah, that was it, thx llutz_ ^^
[11:06] <strange> hey guys in which file do i set my nameserver?
[11:06] <phlak_user> NixGeek: use vls to stream; the server does not need a soundcard
[11:06] <NixGeek> phlak_user: can I have it send the stream to teamspeak? Hopw would I set this up?
[11:06] <phlak_user> strange: /etc/resolv.conf (but if you're using network-manager, it will overwrite this)
[11:07] <edson> ola pessoal
[11:07] <strange> thx
[11:07] <phlak_user> NixGeek: whats teamspeak?
[11:07] <Sidewinder1> !es | edson
[11:07] <szal> edson: não só pessoal aqui, e use #ubuntu-br o #ubuntu-pt para português por favor ^^
[11:08] <szal> language recognition fail @ Sidewinder1 ;)
[11:08] <edson> #ubuntu-br
[11:08] <NixGeek> phlak_user: It's a voice chat.  VLC has a web interface and I want to use it to setup a bot.  I need to ahve VLC's output sent to a virtual input
[11:09] <_r00t_> NixGeek: so that you can annoy your team ? Doesn't sound too bright an idea
[11:09] <Daghdha> HI, i want to check my array (Riad with mdadm) In DIsk Utility i see the 'Check_Array' wich willcheck adn repair the array. Is this agood way for checking the array?
[11:09] <Sidewinder1> szal, Won't be the first (or last), time. :-(
[11:09] <phlak_user> NixGeek: look here -> there seems to be an addon for that -> http://addons.teamspeak.com/directory/plugins/miscellaneous/TeamSpeak3-MusicBot-Plugin.html
[11:10] <NixGeek> _r00t_: It's for a DJ, that will stay in a music channel...  go talk to the bot some more
[11:10] <_r00t_> Daghdha: cat /proc/mdstat
[11:10] <Daghdha> did that root, but that just shows the status don't it?
[11:10] <NixGeek> phlak_user: It doesn't have what I want, mainly a web interface, plus it's windows only...
[11:10] <_r00t_> NixGeek: sounds annoying
[11:11] <phlak_user> NixGeek: yes, i noticed that- but you can use the teamspeak SDK to build something similar
[11:11] <_r00t_> Daghdha: what else do you want ?
[11:11] <NixGeek> _r00t_: like you?
[11:11] <phlak_user> NixGeek: dont feed the troll please
[11:11] <Daghdha> check it for consistency, all files on it.
[11:11] <_r00t_> NixGeek: thanks for the compliment ... dimwit
[11:12] <szal> bazhang: care to take disciplinary action please?
[11:12] <NixGeek> phlak_user: Okay, I want it this way and I'v got it almost setup, and _r00t_ started this by saying my music bot would be annoying.
[11:12] <Dave-Maydew> Are any others having issues with Nvidia drivers either not displaying correctly or crashing in 11.10?
[11:12] <Sidewinder1> Perhaps we should move on..
[11:13] <ooph> i can think of several reasons why a bot would not necessarily be "annoying" on a voice communication channel.
[11:13] <szal> Dave-Maydew: no such issue here
[11:13] <ooph> many of them coincide with having a bot on an IRC channel, to be honest.
[11:13] <ooph> I don't see why this wopuld be a question for #ubuntu, though.
[11:13] <NixGeek> ooph: I already explained this to root, it will STAY in the music channel, and JUST play music
[11:13] <ooph> perhaps #vlc or #teamspeak would be better places?
[11:14] <ooph> ohhhh.
[11:14] <NixGeek> And it is because I want to route music on our server, without a sound card, from VLC to teamspeak
[11:14] <_r00t_> NixGeek: and google can't tell you this ?
[11:14] <ooph> have you consulted the FCC and the appropriate MafiAA organizations? I'm absolutely certain there's some licensing and/or royalty issues they'll want to discuss with you.
[11:14] <allu2> how i could use nautilus to connect my home pc which is behind NAT but i have DMZ to my server computer on the same LAN so the connection would need to go like laptop --> server --> My home PC
[11:15] <NixGeek> ooph: I don't have problems with vlc or teamspeak, I got problems routing sound.  And I've look at google, _r00t_ , I do check these things
[11:15] <Dave-Maydew> I've tried everything to get my GeForce FX5700 in my Sony VGC-V2M working on Ubuntu 11.10 and it just doesn't want to play, any ideas?
[11:15] <NixGeek> Now can someone help me or will people just keep trolling me?
[11:15] <_r00t_> NixGeek: you have week google fu - look again
[11:15] <brontosaurusrex> NixGeek, maybe there is some sort of virtual audio hardware for ubuntu that you can use, other way would be to run everything virtualized (like in virtualbox) or the the teamspeak api
[11:15] <Daghdha> mixgeek: perhaps a vmachine with virtual soundcard would be a solution
[11:16] <_r00t_> NixGeek: the answers are out there.... I didn't get my problems solved from this channel
[11:16] <szal> _r00t_: which is the exact reason why pointing people to Google is discouraged in this channel
[11:16] <NixGeek> brontosaurusrex: I've tried looking for an ubuntu virtualaudio cable but haven't really found much...
[11:16] <szal> at least without a hint as to what to look for, that is
[11:16] <phlak_user> NixGeek: if you're up to it, you can download the source of the windows addon and see if you can build a linux addon -> http://sites.google.com/site/stezzz/ts3musicbot
[11:16] <ooph> NixGeek: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/52809-Tutorial-How-to-stream-Sounds-from-System-into-TS
[11:16] <szal> Daghdha: define 'everything'
[11:17] <szal> erm, Dave-Maydew, I wanted to say
[11:17] <ooph> and that link is from a post i found at www.google.com/search?q=teamspeak+music+bot+ubuntu
[11:17] <allu2> _r00t_: instead of saying one can't use google, you can show how and actually help someone.
[11:17] <odedkarp> hello
[11:17] <ooph> the *first* response.
[11:18] <_r00t_> allu2: thanks but it's my rest day. Spend all week help dimwits
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> Nick recognition fail; @ szal. ;-)
[11:18] <Dave-Maydew> So, is this a bug in 11.10 for nVidia cards or just some freak bug a few Ubuntu users have found?
[11:18] <szal> Sidewinder1: no, tab completion fail ;)
[11:18] <NixGeek> ooph: I really have to ask, is this an ubuntu support channel or a windows support channel?  Did you even READ IT! I've looked at that exact page before
[11:18] <szal> Dave-Maydew: define 'this'
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> szal, A poor workman always blames his/her tools. :D
[11:19] <phlak_user> NixGeek: short answer, there is nothing in the official Ubuntu repos that can help you achieve what you need
[11:19] <ooph> http://forum.teamspeak.com/showpost.php?p=211055&postcount=7
[11:19] <Daghdha> szal: nvm, already started raid check/repair.
[11:19] <allu2> _r00t_: ;) telling people they should google better just gets them frustrated and doesn't really give the "This community is great!" experince :P
[11:19] <ooph> try that one, but with critical thinking skills
[11:19] <darth_alakazam> hi, where can i find Xubuntu help channel? im new
[11:19] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express gone mad
[11:19] <ooph> darth_alakazam: #xubuntu ?
[11:19] <szal> Daghdha: sorry, didn't mean to address you
[11:20] <szal> darth_alakazam: you've been told already
[11:20] <_r00t_> allu2: if the community is great - let me troll - let me enjoy my time
[11:20] <Dave-Maydew> on both LiveCD and upgrade to 11.10 the desktop is total grey and where the terrible thing called unity is supposed to be, it's a cut out, and I cannot see anything on the desktop at all
[11:20] <_r00t_> lol
[11:20] <allu2> _r00t_: :P like going to your work for vacation? :P
[11:20] <Dave-Maydew> and I'm apparently not the only one that has this issue
[11:20] <NixGeek> ooph: Okay, I think I'll leave no, no one is being even slighly helpful.
[11:20] <allu2> missed it :(
[11:20] <allu2> anyone need help?
[11:21] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express gone mad	
[11:21] <Dave-Maydew> Yeah I would like to get Ubuntu 11.10 to work with the Nvidia drivers
[11:21] <Dave-Maydew> but it's not having it
[11:22] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express graphic gone mad
[11:22] <szal> Dave-Maydew: is that using the nouveau driver?  if so, try the proprietary driver -> sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 && sudo nvidia-xconfig <- then reboot..  but honestly I don't have too much hope for that w/ your gfx card; the 173 driver required for the GeForce FX series has a shader bug that e.g. causes the screen on KDE to stay black with desktop effects enabled
[11:22] <Dave-Maydew> tried it
[11:22] <ooph> Nixgeek: http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php/54646-Music-Bot-on-Linux-Dedi-V-Server-available
[11:22] <Dave-Maydew> Unity seems to have screwed things up badly
[11:22] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express graphic gone mad\
[11:22] <ooph> bummer, he left. too bad he was so impatient.
[11:23] <allu2> ooph: they so often are :(
[11:23] <szal> Dave-Maydew: and that bug is nothing the *buntu devs can do anything about, you'd have to poke nVidia to have that fixed, and they're unlikely to do that unless that involves a security risk
[11:23] <odedkarp> I upgraded my ubuntu to 11.10 and my vba express graphic gone mad
[11:23] <Thelmaria> !repeat | odedkarp
[11:23] <szal> Dave-Maydew: because the FX series is classified as legacy
[11:24] <Dave-Maydew> so when you mean legacy??
[11:24] <szal> odedkarp: how about providing some details?
[11:24] <Dave-Maydew> do I download the driver from Nvidia?
[11:24] <Dave-Maydew> or throw my only Desktop in the bin or go back to Winblow?
[11:25] <allu2> Dave-Maydew: am i missing something or doesn't jockey-gtk work?
[11:25] <szal> Dave-Maydew: the proprietary nVidia driver is in the standard installation sources; I told you the name
[11:25] <Dave-Maydew> nope, I see nothing other than a grey screen and a cut out where Unity is supposed to be
[11:25] <szal> Dave-Maydew: if you want better performance, upgrade your graphics card to a GF6 or newer
[11:26] <allu2> Dave-Maydew:  what kind of card you have?, unity doesn't work? how about unity 2d?
[11:26] <Dave-Maydew> I can't upgrade the GFX Card, it's a All-In-One Sony Vaio VGC-V2M
[11:26] <szal> Dave-Maydew: then you're s*** out of luck
[11:26] <ooph> Dave-Maydew: try adding nomodeset to the boot line. gimme a sec, i'll find you a tutorial
[11:26] <szal> ooph: that won't fix anything
[11:27] <tdn> Where do I get the ubuntu netboot image?
[11:27] <tdn> Install via PXE boot.
[11:27] <allu2> szal: i got image he doesn't even have working desktop now
[11:27] <allu2> szal: nomodeset can fix that and ease up fixing things
[11:27] <szal> allu2: he doesn't have a working Unity, but, as I understand it, can see graphics
[11:28] <ooph> szal: if you aren't using the accelerated graphics drivers, then you won't encounter the "black box" bug, eh?
[11:28] <Dave-Maydew> I can see something
[11:28] <allu2> Dave-Maydew: you tried installing drivers via the GUI tool jockey-gtk
[11:29] <Dave-Maydew> can't see anything on the grey screen
[11:29] <szal> ooph: I suppose so, on my other machine I just disabled desktop effects in KDE
[11:29] <ooph> Dave-Maydew: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11398153 for a permanent solution, if my next sentence resolves your issue
[11:29] <allu2> Dave-Maydew: so i would go with the nomodeset thingy
[11:30] <ooph> boot from the livecd and press F6. select the "nomodeset" option
[11:30] <ooph> alternatively...
[11:31] <ooph> at the grub prompt, press "e"... then add "nomodeset" to the line that starts with "linux /boot/vmlinuz..."
[11:31] <ooph> press ctrl-X to boot
[11:31] <Dave-Maydew> so nomodeset how to I set it?
[11:31] <szal> ooph: on the live CD you can select 'nomodeset' by ticking a box (w/ the space bar)
[11:32] <ooph> zomg. i just told you.
[11:32] <ooph> here, Dave-Maydew: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11398153
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> sorry, screen is going to quick
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> ahh its in the link
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> cheers
[11:32] <ooph> you're welcome
[11:32] <Dave-Maydew> sorry for being a total pain
[11:32] <ooph> no, it's cool
[11:33] <starlon> is there any quick way to install common dev tools other than cotton picking?
[11:33] <ooph> you're actually better than a lot of the dweebs that come in, ask a question, then while we're googling the answer for them, they leave in a huff because we didn't jump right up and placate them
[11:33] <szal> starlon: define 'common dev tools'
[11:33] <Dave-Maydew> I shall give it a try this afternoon, and keep fingers crossed
[11:33] <ooph> good luck, dave
[11:33] <starlon> szal: automake, bison, gcc, gcc++
[11:33] <starlon> stuff like that
[11:34] <szal> if it's not in build-essential already, then no
[11:34] <Dave-Maydew> I have the patience, and I love Ubuntu/Linux so it goes hand in hand
[11:34] <Dave-Maydew> ;-)
[11:34] <starlon> sza1: build-essentials - that's what I what I wanted.. :)
[11:34] <szal> starlon: singular ;)
[11:34] <starlon> oh :)
[11:55] <dr_willis> starlon:  and theres the build-dep option to apt
[11:57] <shaun_> hi people, i selected restart. the screen is blurred but nothing else happens
[11:57] <conntrack> anyone using a gps time source for an ntp server?
[11:58] <sskniranjan> 946
[11:59] <shaun_> can i shutdown kubuntu with the terminal?
[11:59] <ooph> conntrack: why would you want to?
[11:59] <ooph> not attacking... i'm genuinely curious
[11:59] <dr_willis> shutdown command,  shaun_  may do it.
[12:00] <shaun_> it says shutdown: time expected
[12:00] <ooph> shaun_: shutdown -h now
[12:00] <Laserr> shaun_: "sudo halt"
[12:00] <ooph> shaun_ : you'll need to use sudo
[12:00] <ooph> alternatively, "shutdown -r now" will make it reboot
[12:01] <dr_willis> looks like he got it.
[12:01] <ooph> ./giggle
[12:05] <nixxofugi> sudo apt-get remove dmraid
[12:05] <ooph> if you're running a fakeraid motherboard, that is a bad plan.
[12:05] <ooph> also, i think i missed the question to go with that answer
[12:06] <szal> looks more like a case of wrong window ;)
[12:06] <nixxofugi> actually i asked the question last night, about 9 hours ago...
[12:06] <nixxofugi> no one had an answer unfortunately. figured i'd post my findings ;-)
[12:07] <ooph> excellent, glad you resolved your issue. can you enlighten us as to which question that was the answer?
[12:08] <bekks> Jeopardy ;)
[12:08] <dr_willis> post the question and answer on askubunt.com :)
[12:08] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com
[12:09] <dokg> hi
[12:09] <conntrack> ooph: sync my devices
[12:09] <conntrack> ooph: but not over the internet
[12:09] <dokg> I downloaded the ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso. I notie it's 711 Mg, How do I burn it on a CD for boot as the limit is 700 Mb ?
[12:10] <Laserr> dokg: Your CD can hold a little more than 700MB.
[12:10] <szal> dokg: enable overburn
[12:10] <Laserr> !md5sum | dokg
[12:10] <Laserr> dokg: Check to make sure your download is 100% good.
[12:11] <Sidewinder1> dokg, In addition to Md5sum and burning at the slowest speed, this site should answer all of your questions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[12:12] <dokg> thank you all
[12:13] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:14] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've got some circular dependencies or somewhat. When I try to install gmsh there's this error: http://paste.lugons.org/show/cOy3ND4IOGtSUf52J0la/
[12:14] <Atlantic777> then I try to install libmed1 and here's what happens: http://paste.lugons.org/show/4WhLoKYjB5Cm3PRuVjkm/
[12:15] <dr_willis> you could try somthing similer to sudo apt-get install gmsh libmed1            on the samew line
[12:15] <lapion> anyone know where the petition site is to get the old desktop back  ?
[12:15] <jrib> Atlantic777: so you have no ideas or guesses as to why you are having this problem?
[12:15] <dr_willis> lapion:  you mean gnome2? thats a dead project.. theres some fork of it..
[12:16] <andrew_> i want to install a program but it says "another application seems to be using the package system at this time". what am i doing wrong?
[12:16] <jrib> Guest95802: maybe you have update-manager going
[12:16] <Atlantic777> jrib: it's not my computer, I don't use ubuntu. Just wanna help my friend.
[12:16] <ooph> dr_willis: you mean #mate - i just watched them push a commit :)
[12:16] <jrib> Atlantic777: ask friend then if he has no idea or guesses as to why
[12:16] <Guest95802> jrib, and what should i do now?
[12:16] <jrib> Guest95802: let update-manager finish
[12:16] <dr_willis> you can only have one pacvkage maanger tool running at a time
[12:17] <lapion> andrew probably the package updater or some other package manager is active
[12:17] <Guest95802> jrib,  where can i see the progress?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:17] <rtr-> hi there, i search for an easy solution to help a friend, who sits behind a nat, using ssh. is there any quick/easy solution known? if needet, i have a server which i could use as "proxy"
[12:17] <jrib> Guest95802: is update-manager running or not?
[12:17] <Guest95802> jrib, i mean the progress until its finished.
[12:17] <jrib> Guest95802: if update-manager is running then look at update-manager
[12:18] <lapion> dr_willis, at the very least adding the old menu style to the current unity.
[12:18] <dr_willis> rtr-:  not sure if that teamviewer app/service could to it or not.
[12:18] <roberto> buenas
[12:18] <dr_willis> lapion:  there allreadey are about 4 differnt ways to get the old style gnome menu into unity and gnome-shell
[12:18] <Guest95802> but where is the update manager?
[12:18] <dr_willis> lapion:  and a places menu item
[12:19] <lapion> dr_willis, tried em all none of them work..
[12:19] <dr_willis> lapion:  they seem to work fine for me.
[12:19] <roberto> hola
[12:19] <jrib> Atlantic777: what did your friend say?
[12:19] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729027/)
[12:19] <roberto> hi
[12:19] <roberto> can you help me?
[12:19] <rtr-> thanks dr_willis, didnt know it exists for linux also, great thanks alot
[12:19] <dr_willis> got some classic-menu indicator applet that works decently well here.
[12:19] <roberto> who can help me?
[12:19] <dr_willis> rtr-:  i even have it on my android phone. ;)
[12:20] <szal> roberto: did you ask an actual question already?
[12:20] <Atlantic777> jrib: he really doesn't know what could it be. :D He isn't so experienced in linux and whole this stuff. :D
[12:20] <roberto> i need help with 'guadalinex'
[12:20] <bekks> !details | roberto
[12:20] <szal> roberto: wrong channel, we don't support that here
[12:20] <jrib> Atlantic777: ask him what he has done regarding the package system
[12:20] <bekks> szal: What is that guadalinex?
[12:20] <jrib> Atlantic777: while you ask him that, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list*
[12:20] <roberto> i cant install flashplayer for mozilla
[12:20] <szal> bekks: a distro
[12:20] <bekks> ah ok.
[12:21] <lapion> I allready had modified my desktop and it has been looking slightly like unity for the past 4 years
[12:21] <roberto> i cannot install flashplayer for mozilla
[12:21] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729027/)
[12:21] <bekks> roberto: And your distro isnt supported in here.
[12:21] <szal> roberto: again, wrong channel
[12:21] <jrib> !repeat | Notes
[12:21] <lapion> dr_willis, however I had full control what was in the bars, and I really cannot live with the huge icons..
[12:22] <roberto> szal whats the name of the channel which i must go?
[12:22] <jgeli> running Oneiric in gnome-shell. When I plug the laptop to the power cord it charges the battery for a while but later on the battery discharges again, This could be a bug in the power manager. Any ideas?
[12:22] <jrib> Notes: stop putting '%' in front of your commands
[12:22] <Notes> k ty
[12:22] <lapion> dr_willis, being able to run multiple instances of firefox with each their own profile is rather impI do not see how I am to find out wich of the 3 ff icons would be whichortant to me,
[12:22] <roberto> szal whats the channel of this?
[12:23] <roberto> what channel i must go?
[12:23] <szal> roberto: tried #guadalinex yet?
[12:23] <roberto> no
[12:23] <roberto> i try now
[12:23] <Guest95802> what is libc6-xen?
[12:24] <jrib> !info libc6-xen | Guest95802
[12:24] <roberto> i think anybody its in it
[12:24] <Touns> hello
[12:25] <salvatore> someone knows how can i capture streaming from rhytmnbox/lastfm and save it in mp3?
[12:25] <kuuhmuUbun> Hey i use empathy That !!! I want to add friend by people nearby ...it notting any thing ,, what i should do
[12:25] <Atlantic777> jrib: the friend says that it's fresh linux install, yesterday installed
[12:25] <roberto> hello who helps me with guadalinex, in his channel there isnt anybody
[12:25] <dr_willis> salvatore:  they streaming from some site?
[12:26] <szal> roberto: not here, for the 3rd time
[12:26] <jrib> roberto: this channel is only for ubuntu support
[12:26] <salvatore> no rhytmnbox player
[12:26] <roberto> szal
[12:26] <Atlantic777> jrib: sources -> http://paste.lugons.org/show/AIVHZlTnu40GeYgVto38/
[12:26] <oobiloz> eh.. have u set u?p accounts in empathy
[12:26] <roberto> in his channel there isnt anybody
[12:26] <roberto> -.-
[12:26] <jrib> Atlantic777: files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ as well
[12:26] <dr_willis> roberto:  thats not our fault.
[12:26] <szal> roberto: not our problem
[12:26] <roberto> ok
[12:26] <dr_willis> sounds like a good reason to not use guadalinex
[12:27] <salvatore> i've been trying audacity but it is not much user friendly
[12:27] <jgeli> running Oneiric in gnome-shell. When I plug the laptop to the power cord it charges the battery for a while but later on the battery discharges again, This could be a bug in the power manager. Any ideas?
[12:27] <kuuhmuUbun> yes.. setup nearby.. it registry but,, it no people near me or room.
[12:28] <salvatore> someone knows how can i capture streaming from rhytmnbox/lastfm and save it in mp3?
[12:28] <lapion> dr_willis, being able to run multiple instances of firefox with each their own profile is rather important to me, I do not see how I am to find out which of the 3 to 5 ff icons would be which profile
[12:28] <roberto> i know you are stupid, you cant help the people, sure you are fat and you havent got friends, i fucked your mothe
[12:28] <roberto> mother*
[12:28] <roberto> bye bye bitch
[12:28] <oobiloz> .
[12:28] <FloodBot1> roberto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <dr_willis> lovely people we have today.
[12:28] <jrib> Atlantic777: « apt-cache policy libhdf5-openmpi-1.8.4 libmed1 » as well
[12:28] <enchilado> o_O
[12:28] <enchilado> Gosh.
[12:28] <jrib> oh we'll surely help you now...
[12:28] <szal> jrib: he helped himself..  out of here ;)
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> That was mature.. :D
[12:29] <ooph> well, *I* certainly found it helpful :)
[12:29] <salvatore> please any answer with recording audio streming?
[12:29] <Guest95802> my muon says "Could not download packages" if i try to download skype, whats wrong?
[12:29] <dr_willis> salvatore:  so what are they playing exactly? some other format music files?
[12:30] <escaped> hey, i have the following Problem. I have and using two Soundcards Audigy 2 ZS (PCI) and INTEL hda (onboard). I use the audigy as my main Soundcard. if i starting my system i can control the volume using the media keys (Audigy); but the 5.1 profile is not used (subwoofer is not playing) even if selected. So i have to reselect the 5.1 profile for the audigy. After this, 5.1 is used but i cannot control the volume of the audigy. The Media Keys are 
[12:30] <salvatore> i want  capture streaming from rhytmnbox/lastfm and save it in mp3
[12:30] <dr_willis> !info streamtuner
[12:30] <dr_willis> salvatore:  you want to capture a web audio stream then? you are saying?
[12:30] <salvatore> i don't know what format they are actually playing
[12:30] <salvatore> yes
[12:31] <salvatore> but not from browser
[12:31] <dr_willis> the fact you are usin rythembox to listen to it.. is not imporntant. :)
[12:31] <salvatore> but from rytmnbox player
[12:31] <sport0> howdy, i'm trying to fix my bro's lappy, he tried to enable auto-login somehow - i managed to alt-f2 su user to login in has him but still getting nautilus error. how do i enable the password prompt during login without metacity?
[12:31] <salvatore> ok :)
[12:31] <dr_willis> other players can most likely also listen and capture it..
[12:31] <zabomber> interesting
[12:31] <salvatore> u got solution for that?
[12:32] <salvatore> i've been trying audacity but it is not much user friendly
[12:32] <JadedJacob> Pentium 4 2.4ghz + 2GB ram + 200gb harddrive, which ubuntu release should I go for?
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info streamtuner | salvatore  dident see this?
[12:32] <dr_willis> !info streamripper
[12:32] <salvatore> i did but was not workin fine
[12:33] <salvatore> i have ubuntu 10.04 lts
[12:33] <dr_willis> i recall other stream grabber apps in the repos.
[12:33] <dr_willis> !info tunapie
[12:33] <salvatore> i had a error message when i tried to run ti
[12:33] <salvatore> it
[12:33] <dr_willis> vlc can also grab many streams
[12:34] <salvatore> u mean i coud use vlc to capt strem from rytmnbox?
[12:34] <salvatore> tunapie neaver heared bout it
[12:35] <Guest95802> i installed skype with the sudo command. now i have to press ok to accept the EULA. how do i do that?
[12:36] <bekks> Guest95802: "I have to press ok to accept..."
[12:36] <bekks> Guest95802: Scroll down, press ok.
[12:36] <JadedJacob> anyone?
[12:36] <Guest95802> i cant press ok
[12:36] <Guest95802> i can just mark this because its in the terminal
[12:36] <brontosaurusrex> salvatore, example url?
[12:36] <bekks> JadedJacob: The latest.
[12:36] <xangua> Guest95802: with TAB
[12:36] <gxm> hi
[12:37] <Guest95802> ah allright, thanks
[12:37] <gxm> 大家好
[12:37] <salvatore> i havent got a url...i strem last.fm from rytmnbox
[12:37] <katyl> hi how can i check the power required by my graphics card?
[12:37] <salvatore> i suppose i do not have url
[12:37] <oCean> !cn | gxm
[12:37] <gxm> can you speak Chinese？
[12:37] <dr_willis> salvatore:  no you could use vlc to play the stream and record it...  you seem intent on capturing from  rythembox.. which may make things harder
[12:38] <zlszk> 中国人？
[12:38] <gxm> yes
[12:38] <salvatore> yes is exactly what i mean
[12:38] <dr_willis> salvatore:   the info/about stuff in rythmbox might give the stream url
[12:38] <jrib> Atlantic777: still there?
[12:38] <gxm> sorry
[12:38] <dr_willis> salvatore:  or the web site link may contain the url.
[12:38] <salvatore> ok i check ...one moment
[12:38] <Atlantic777> jrib: yap, waiting for the other side to acomplish the mission. -.-
[12:39] <jrib> Atlantic777: ok
[12:39] <dr_willis>  │      Guest95802 | jrib, i mean the progress until its finished.
[12:39] <dr_willis> oops//
[12:39] <dr_willis> missclicked
[12:39] <gxm> Iam Chinese
[12:40] <zlszk> 你好啊
[12:40] <gxm> 你会说汉语？
[12:40] <zlszk> 中国人呵呵
[12:40] <oCean> zlszk: gxm: english only
[12:40] <oCean> !cn | gxm
[12:40] <salvatore> no url in rytmnbox
[12:40] <zlszk> ok sorry
[12:41] <oCean> gxm, zlszk:   /join #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[12:41] <salvatore> would it work with a software that capture audio passing through audio card?
[12:41] <Somelauw> Okay, ubuntu's behaviour to use usb devices seems weird to me.
[12:41] <zlszk> sorry gym
[12:41] <gxm> ……
[12:41] <Somelauw> First of all there are bot directories /mnt and /mount in the root.
[12:41] <zlszk> ..
[12:42] <gxm> 不懂鹰语
[12:42] <zlszk> me too...
[12:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:42] <Atlantic777> jrib: moving forward. Sorry, he's slow. :D http://paste.lugons.org/show/MuGGYMmZiUJLAZFIXCTH/
[12:42] <scotty^> JadedJacob - Probably Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[12:42] <Somelauw> Second ubuntu's fstab doesn't handle usb devices by default.
[12:42] <zlszk> pingyin
[12:42] <Jonii> Hey, what's that non-graphical thing called that you can enter using F1-F7 keys?
[12:42] <jrib> Atlantic777: did you ask about the contents of files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?
[12:42] <gxm> 还有中国人吗？
[12:42] <Somelauw> And thirs, devices aren't mounted until you open nautilus (and it doesn't use fstab but mounts stuff itself).
[12:42] <zlszk> bu zhi dao a
[12:43] <oCean> gxm: stop it please.
[12:43] <Atlantic777> jrib: yap, waiting for that. But I think that it's empty.
[12:43] <gxm> 拼音……
[12:43] <oCean> gxm: /join #ubuntu-cn  for chinese
[12:43] <zlszk> hehe ta bu rang shuo zhonhwen...
[12:43] <elev> /n/n
[12:44] <gxm> 如何翻译？
[12:44] <zlszk> ge mer bie da zi le yao bei ping bi jiu bei ju le
[12:44] <bazhang> zlszk, stop that
[12:45] <Guest95802> i have problem with my microphone, my partner doesnt hear me
[12:45] <zlszk> bye i see you in ubuntu-cn
[12:45] <jrib> Atlantic777: I didn't realize you were dealing with two packages.  Also pastebin: apt-cache policy gmsh
[12:46] <scotty^> Jonii: Virtual terminals
[12:46] <gxm> Is it right? Sound?
[12:46] <Jonii> scotty^: okay, ty
[12:46] <scotty^> Jonii: VT's for short
[12:46] <salvatore> someone can tell me how to capture audiio streaming from rytmnbox/lastfm?
[12:47] <gxm> Ican，but……
[12:47] <amin`> guys how could i change the font of the taskbar and titlebar in ICEWM???
[12:47] <gxm> I can not speak English
[12:47] <bazhang> gxm   /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:47] <zlszk> gym come to ubuntu-cn
[12:48] <scotty^> Guest95802: Is you microphone un-muted?
[12:48] <gxm> OK，but Ican not
[12:48] <zlszk> why
[12:48] <elev> quit
[12:48] <salvatore> someone can tell me how to capture audiio streaming from rytmnbox/lastfm?
[12:49] <gxm> windows is ok？
[12:49] <zlszk> what irc you used ?
[12:49] <scotty^> salvatore:  We've told you how to capture audio streaming from lastfm.  Forget about Rhythmbox.
[12:50] <brontosaurusrex> salvatore, i cant even get lastfm working, so ...
[12:50] <salvatore> ok thanx
[12:52] <brontosaurusrex> btw, how do i nuke banshee database?
[12:53] <Atlantic777> jrib: here's apt-get policy gmsh, still waiting for sources.list.d http://paste.lugons.org/show/qFi1jquNG1kdrUSbDJH7/
[12:53] <Atlantic777> jrib: ok, sources.list.d/ is empty
[12:54] <szal> wasn't that apt-cache policy?
[12:54] <Jonii> Okay, a question, i pressed ctrl+alt+f1, and then I got into screen where it asked for a login, and when I pressed any keys whatsoever, it started flooding the terminal with lines like "couldn't write something because ecryptfs something [-5]"
[12:55] <Atlantic777> szal: yes, apt-cache, gentoo user here, I'm not really into those deb stuff  :D
[12:55] <Jonii> "error writing to the lower page" or something
[12:55] <tao24> hi there
[12:56] <skilz_> How do I change the theme/wallpaper of the login screen?
[12:57] <zlszk> system manager?
[12:57] <skilz_> zlszk: I'm using fluxbox
[12:57] <scotty^> brontosaurusrex:  Put it in your microwave oven :)
[12:57] <tao24> i'm having trouble with the jack connector of a ATI RV710/730 integrated sound card, managed with alsa snd-hda-intel : once the output jack is disconnected and reconnected, no sound goes through the output jack
[12:57] <tao24> any clue?
[12:58] <brontosaurusrex> scotty^, its showing tracks from my trashbin
[12:58] <m3asmi> can I send mail from command line with my gmail mail ?
[12:59] <Ycarene> So, wayland....
[12:59] <xangua> m3asmi: from a cli email client
[12:59] <m3asmi> xangua: yes
[12:59] <scotty^> brontosaurusrex:  What happens if you delete the files from the trashbin?
[12:59] <m3asmi> with command line
[13:00] <xangua> m3asmi: don't know cli mail clients, mutter¿¿
[13:00] <Ycarene> is wayland even stable enough to test?
[13:00] <scotty^> m3asmi:  Try PINE.
[13:00] <scotty^> !pine
[13:00] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, yes
[13:00] <m3asmi> scotty: ok I'm going to try ;)
[13:00] <_tr1gg3r> maybe mailx
[13:00] <Ycarene> !wayland
[13:02] <Atlantic777> jrib: ping
[13:02] <brontosaurusrex> scotty^, just deleted /home/b/.config/banshee-1/bansee.db and that was it
[13:02] <_tr1gg3r> brontosaurusrex, it is stored at ~/.config/banshee-1
[13:02] <brontosaurusrex> _tr1gg3r, thanks
[13:02] <_tr1gg3r> :)
[13:02] <m3asmi> scotty: pine is ALPINE ?
[13:03] <scotty^> m3asmi: ALPINE is an upgraded version of PINE.  I was about to suggest that you use ALPINE instead.
[13:04] <brontosaurusrex> this is one ugly player thought :)
[13:04] <plouffe> is VMWare (the free parts) better than Virtualbox on Ubuntu?
[13:04] <m3asmi> scotty^:thanks ;)
[13:04] <scotty^> brontosaurusrex: OK
[13:05] <scotty^> !alpine
[13:06] <enchilado> Interesting, somehow 'panel' appeared on the launcher
[13:06] <enchilado> when I closed it everything disappeared :(
[13:06] <m3asmi> scotty^:can mail command help me ?
[13:07] <scotty^> m3asmi:  I've never used the mail command and I don't know how it works.
[13:07] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, yes
[13:07] <m3asmi> _tr1gg3r:how ?
[13:08] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, mail can send mail from the  cmd line
[13:08] <llutz> m3asmi: you'll need a smtp-server or nullmailer to send mails with mail-command. check msmtp/ssmtp
[13:08] <m3asmi> _tr1gg3r: any documentation about it ?
[13:08] <_tr1gg3r> m3asmi, man mail
[13:09] <scotty^> What process do I follow if I want to get something added to ubottu?
[13:09] <llutz> m3asmi: http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/07/17/howto-configure-msmtp-to-work-with-gmail-on-linux/
[13:09] <tao24> is it expected to have aptitude misbehaves after upgrade to oneric
[13:09] <tao24> ?
[13:09] <JadedJacob> Does 11.04 run well on a pentium 4 2.4ghz with 2gb of ram?
[13:09] <m3asmi> ooh thanks a lot guys ;)
[13:10] <JadedJacob> or should i install xubuntu/lubuntu
[13:10] <scotty^> llutz: that sound a bit complicated, and possibly an overkill, for someone who wants to use gmail.  Wouldn't ALPINE be a better solution?
[13:10] <llutz> scotty^: depends on real tasks. i'd prefer mutt, but ...
[13:10] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729063/)
[13:12] <scotty^> JadedJacob:  U have plenty of RAM for 11.04 but your CPU may be too slow for normal Ubuntu with Unity.  You might be better off with Xubuntu 11.04 or the newly officially supported Lubuntu 11.04.
[13:12] <scotty^> !Xubuntu
[13:12] <scotty^> !Lubuntu
[13:13] <liram> was actualy wondering what people think of unity?
[13:13] <enchilado> I don't like it.
[13:13] <Kaspi> hey
[13:13] <llutz> !polls | liram
[13:13] <Kaspi> What's the multiverse repository deb line please?
[13:14] <liram> hey! I never said I hated or liked unity
[13:14] <BluesKaj> JadedJacob, you should be fine , a lot depends on your graphics capabilities tho.like desktop effects etc
[13:14] <Kaspi> for kubuntu actually
[13:14] <llutz> liram: "Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots"
[13:15] <Notes> Hello I'm following instructions from here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4) and I get this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/729063/)
[13:15] <compdoc> Notes, none of your commands work
[13:16] <Notes> why
[13:16] <compdoc> they arent commands
[13:16] <Kaspi> What's the multiverse repository deb line please?
[13:16] <Notes> why
[13:16] <compdoc> what are you trying to do?
[13:17] <glebihan> Kaspi, there's no specific line, you just have to add multiverse at the end of the line
[13:17] <compdoc> install a wireless card?
[13:17] <TheCowboy> llutz, bestbot isnt there
[13:17] <Notes> compdoc:  i'm trying to do this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=e3528688c4312119d8364678fad04b28&t=1447592&highlight=WNA1100&page=4
[13:17] <Notes> first post on that p-age
[13:18] <llutz> TheCowboy: however, no polls _here_
[13:18] <Kaspi> glebihan: aha :) well then, what is the line for a repository containing skype, chrome and so?
[13:18] <TheCowboy> llutz, but where is bestbot
[13:18] <llutz> !partner
[13:18] <TheCowboy> !bestbot
[13:18] <llutz> TheCowboy: i don't care
[13:18] <dr_willis>  /msg bestbot are you home?
[13:18] <TheCowboy> llutz, u mad bro?
[13:19] <Notes> may I PM you compdoc ?
[13:20] <glebihan> Kaspi, I think skype is in the partner repo (deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric partner), I don't think chrome is in any official repo (chromium is though)
[13:21] <compdoc> Notes, ok
[13:21] <Kaspi> glebihan: thanks :)
[13:22] <glebihan> Kaspi, you're welcome
[13:23] <BarkingFish> afternoon guys :)  does anyone have the link on how to adjust the config of grub2 please?  I have removed a kernel image, but it's still appearing as default, and I want to change it. Thanks :)
[13:24] <sram> hey guys, I have broadcom HOWTO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and installed the proprietary drivers for my wireless card and they are active. I have a BCM4311. However, the device doesnt seem to be active. here's a paste of my lshw output: http://codepad.org/l2vS47gW and here is a paste of the ifconfig output: http://codepad.org/I6rlVCQw
[13:25] <sram> Someone please tell me how to proceed...
[13:25] <glebihan> BarkingFish, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:25] <BarkingFish> thanks glebihan :)
[13:25] <BarkingFish> I can't stop, but I'll drop in later - thanks for your help :)
[13:26] <sleepdead> i like this tutorial: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[13:26] <sleepdead> 'bout grub2
[13:27] <Andrewx> Hello, my system (Ubuntu 11.10) which has just been upgraded freezes at boot. It freezes when booting pulse audio.
[13:27] <Andrewx> Any idea what this could be?
[13:28] <danielig_> Hey, I have had a harddrive with lots of files on it was encrypted (on mount) and now I have formatted the drive and put my /home partition on it.I discovered, that I have not backed up some of the files on that drive. Any idea how to recover the data?
[13:29] <izinucs> After clicking on an "email support" link on a web page the system comes up with an Account Wizard to setup an email account on my laptop.. I don't need it's help or a stand a lone program but I can't exit the wizard.  Every time I hit cancel it looks stupid at me. How do I close it?
[13:29] <ooph> danielig_: wihtout spending literally thousands of dollars to a data recovery center? none.
[13:30] <JadedJacob> BluesKaj: I have a 128MB Geforce ti 4200
[13:30] <Atlantic777> libhdf5-openmpi depends both on libhdf5-mpich-dev and libhdf5-lam-dev, but the mpich and lam can't be installed together. What could I do after I fill in a bug report?
[13:30] <TrollsALot> !kiosk
[13:30] <BluesKaj> sram, try this , sudo modprobe bcm43 , then sudo dhclient wlan0
[13:31] <danielig_> ooph: so how do they do it? I have tried with photorec and recovered lots of files that are called f23******.eCryptfs some of them are the size of the file that I am looking for
[13:31] <BluesKaj> JadedJacob, I think you will be ok
[13:31] <danielig_> (~980Mb Video files)
[13:32] <danielig_> I just need to know how to decrypt them.
[13:32] <danielig_> I have the passphrase for the drive and the user and passphrase of the user it was created under.
[13:32] <sram> BluesKaj, I get this on sudo modprobe bcm43: http://codepad.org/CBOVRwcq
[13:33] <ooph> danielig_: no clue, sorry. data recovery is not my specialty. if the files are encrypted, it makes it doubly difficult. you might check to see if your encryption method has a decryption tool for single files?
[13:33] <m4k> How to configure apache
[13:33] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  short question:    i have a problem:   if I edit a picture it will not update anymore and show the changes I made   only after saving & reloading it shows the "new" picture
[13:33] <howlymowly> any idea?
[13:33] <howlymowly> (this happens after an update to oneiric)
[13:33] <danielig_> howlymowly: where do you edit?
[13:33] <ooph> howlymowly: what program are you using to edit the picture?
[13:34] <howlymowly> oops..  sorry Ö)  that was gimp
[13:34] <danielig_> and where doesn't it update?
[13:34] <danielig_> in the preview?
[13:34] <howlymowly> forgot the most important information in my sentence :)
[13:34] <JadedJacob> Well I'm currently running Windows XP on my Pentium 4
[13:35] <howlymowly> danielig_: everything  all "preview" modes..  but also  for example if I add a new white layer   the new layer will not show up
[13:35] <m4k> Hlp how to configure apache
[13:35] <BluesKaj> sram, did you run the dhclient?
[13:36] <howlymowly> danielig_: I already tried turning off desktop effects and such things  but tht does not help, either
[13:36] <ooph> m4k: how to configure apache to do what? try http://127.0.0.1
[13:37] <dr_willis> theres rather large books out on configuring apache. :)
[13:37] <sram> BluesKaj, nope, I thought the running dhclient needed the modprobe command to succeed
[13:38] <BluesKaj> sram, run it anyway
[13:38] <ooph> m4k: if you want to add your own web pages, they will need to be in /var/www
[13:39] <BluesKaj> sram, without the modprobe command
[13:39] <sram> BluesKaj, says "cannot find device "wlan0""
[13:39] <dokg> hi I just installed Ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to open a console to enter commands ?
[13:40] <ooph> m4k: if you need more configuration help than that, you might want to try http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+apache+configuration
[13:40] <jazo> !list
[13:40] <ooph> dokg: alt+f2, type "gnome-terminal. alternatively, ctrl+alt+T.
[13:41] <dokg> thank you
[13:41] <BluesKaj> sram, run this and pastebin the result  , sudo lshw -C network
[13:43] <dannek71> hey all
[13:44] <sram> BluesKaj, http://codepad.org/8GY2njlk
[13:44] <dannek71> How do you loop through an array starting at a specific item
[13:44] <dannek71> for example, I have an array of 10 items and I want to start looping at item 5
[13:45] <gabriel_> Hi everyone
[13:45] <cesar_bo> Hello I am the contact for a LoCo Team, How can I reset the admin password for the mailing-list? anyone have an idea, how? (Yes, I know ... it's a sad request)
[13:46] <ooph> dannek71: for(a=5;a<=10;a++)
[13:46] <Tm_T> cesar_bo: try asking in #ubuntu-locoteams I suppose
[13:47] <gabriel_> I know that is is not an ubuntu related question but maybe somebody can help me: I have a HP PSC 2175 printer and it says paper jam right after I turn it on, I checked to see if there was a paper jam but I see none, can somebody help me please?
[13:47] <ooph> gabriel_: http://support.hp.com
[13:47] <cesar_bo> Tm_T I did, no soul in that channel
[13:47] <BluesKaj> sram, I assume you're using the ethernet/wired connection on the same pc atm ?
[13:47] <dannek71> ooph, I am looking how to do it in bash
[13:47] <gabriel_> I have checked that site ooph but I see no answer to my problem, that is why I come here
[13:48] <gabriel_> some help please
[13:48] <ooph> gabriel_: your problem has nothing to do with Ubuntu. I recommend you contact HP Customer Support.
[13:48] <ooph> dannek71: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-7.html
[13:49] <gabriel_> Is there any chat room on IRC that can help me with my printer problem? I have checked the HP support answer but I haven't found any solution to my problem
[13:49] <ooph> gabriel_: your problem has nothing to do with Ubuntu. I recommend you contact HP Customer Support.
[13:49] <szal> !repeat | ooph
[13:49] <ooph> they have a phone number on the website.
[13:49] <cesar_bo> gabriel_ try on reddit, there is a subreddit with people that give free support, just for the fun
[13:49] <ooph> !botabuse | szal
[13:49] <gabriel_> Thanks cesar_bo
[13:49] <zoLevDotCom> hi!
[13:51] <ooph> to clarify: szal, you told the bot to tell me not to repeat myself, when the user requesting information ignored my perfectly valid answer. your bot request generated additional traffic in the channel, thus increasing the likelyhood that the user would not be able to see my response. you not only generated extra traffic, but told the bot that i was asking a question repeatedly, rather than
[13:51] <ooph> asking me not to repeat my *answer*. bad user, no cookie.
[13:53] <sram> BluesKaj, yes. i am connected via ethernet on the same machine.
[13:53] <sram> BluesKaj, also, sorry about my delayed response
[13:53] <howlymowly> danielig_: I found out now:   it seems the problem arises if I use multiple layers in a picture
[13:53] <howlymowly> for some reason the picture in the main widow will not upate itself anymore
[13:55] <webmind> uhm
[13:55] <webmind> I encrypted a usb disk in ubuntu
[13:55] <webmind> worked quite well
[13:56] <webmind> not it claim the partition is unknown
[13:56] <ubidoobi2> hi all ... I just installed linux via alternate cd (desktop would not insall) ... it got to the part where it asked to install grub.  I am not sure if it installed. ... but it hung for a long time ... then continued installing ubuntu.  I have win7 ultimate on this hdd as well and I would like to boot both.  How would I go about finding grub (if it installed) ... and how do I go about adding win7 to the boot menu..
[13:56] <ubidoobi2> .. prv msgs accepted if you can help.  Thanks
[13:56] <webmind> and I don't know how to decrypt
[13:56] <webmind> anyone any suggestions?
[13:56] <webmind> s/not/now/
[13:56] <Blackadder> I want to change my notebook which is currently running Ubuntu 11.10 does anyone know how may I export my email from both evoloution & Mozilla Thunderbird
[13:57] <ooph> ubidoobi2: are you certain the windows partition still exists?
[13:57] <webmind> ubidoobi2, see the files in /etc/grub.d/
[13:57] <quidnunc> I need to re-partition my disk with the install CD. Is there something I need to do with respect to /etc/fstab or any other file?
[13:57] <quidnunc> (The re-partition is not of /)
[13:57] <ubidoobi2> ooph - i checked gparted and everything still looks intact to me.
[13:58] <webmind> nm
[13:58] <ubidoobi2> webmind - files are there.
[13:59] <Blackadder> would someone be kind enough to answer my question re e mail export to another machine
[13:59] <ubidoobi2> I have never played with grub before ... and I've read it can be tricky/disasterous .. so i'm a little apprehensive about modifying ... however it must be done
[14:00] <corrado> ciao a tuti/e
[14:00] <Blackadder> play with grub m8 in safe mod
[14:00] <corrado> tutti/e
[14:00] <Blackadder> I am an Ubuntu server guru in shell but suck in Xserver
[14:00] <danielig_> Blackadder: it is quite easy.
[14:01] <Blackadder> explain briefly pls
[14:01] <danielig_> for thunderbird just take that .thunderbird folder and carry it over to your new system and you will all be set.
[14:01] <ooph> Blackadder: ALT+F2, "gnome-terminal", voila.
[14:01] <Blackadder> great
[14:01] <ooph> Blackadder: alternatively, CTRL+ALT+T
[14:02] <Blackadder> how about evoloution mail
[14:02] <Blackadder> what folder does that reside in
[14:02] <ooph> as another alternative, Yakuake and Guake are awesome drop-down terminals tied to F12 - although you'll need to install them with "sudo apt-get install guake" or "sudo apt-get install yakuake"
[14:02] <ooph> (depending on whether you are running gnome or kde - pick the one that starts with the right letter ;)
[14:03] <danielig_> for evolution you could as well try the same, but I guess that you are not keeping evolution or are you? are you switching to another linux, then I would try that, just cp .evolution...
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> how do i restart ssh? sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart not found
[14:06] <danielig_> Blackadder: when you are starting Evolution it asks if you want to create everything from a backup file, so try and look where in evolution you can create such a file. and then try that...
[14:06] <danielig_> MonkeyDust: sshd is the daemon you wantp restart
[14:06] <danielig_> s/wantp/want
[14:06] <szal> +to
[14:07] <llutz> MonkeyDust: sudo service ssh restart
[14:07] <Blackadder> ok got yakuake installed it seems like a normal terminal to me
[14:08] <compdoc> does the current apt-get in ubuntu have a search function? the help shows none
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> how strange, i'm here over ssh, but ssh is not installed :s (apt-cache policy ssh)
[14:08] <llutz> MonkeyDust: apt-cache policy openssh-server
[14:08] <alphonse> #dogmazic
[14:09] <Blackadder> OK any suggestions on a notebook I am having trouble with lenovo T61 as it seems that the sound files are not working for use with skype beta & amsn
[14:09] <sickgut> if its worth rm -rf /* then its worth mounting all your drives then rm -rf /*ing as root
[14:09] <Notes> uhm
[14:10] <llutz>  sickgut  <°)))o><  - take your fish and troll away -  ><o(((°>
[14:10] <Guest55535> hi all
[14:10] <alexcockell> Out of interest - so I have plenty of early wearning (LTS user here) how does 11.10 run on Lenovo T/R/X61s>
[14:10] <Blackadder> although most of my work  & windows is just out of the question for me as 1) its too expensive 2 Its much easier to work on my client servers & my own from my own laptop using Ubuntu remote desktop
[14:11] <alexcockell> Although I'd probably wait untiol 12.04.1 comes out before upgrading... but still...
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> well, that was wrong ;)
[14:13] <Blackadder> I upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04 on my desktop & laptop & upgraded Ubuntu servers from 10.10 which to 11.04 both are quite stable. I had problemes with server 10.10 on the reboots that I had to boot up in safemode first then attempt another reboot until the server was back up
[14:14] <ubidoobi2> anybody with knowledge of modifying grub for win7 and ubuntu prv msg me please.  thanks!
[14:14] <xangua> !pm | ubidoobi2
[14:15] <WilliamLarrieu> my windows do not resize when I drag them on top or on side of my screen.
[14:15] <ooph> !botabuse | xangua
[14:15] <WilliamLarrieu> I'd like to have them resizing automatically to half or full screen by moving the window to a border of the screen. I use Ubuntu 11.10. Fresh install.
[14:16] <WilliamLarrieu> I am using regular Unity
[14:16] <ooph> stop bitching at people who aren't disobeying the channel's rules.
[14:16] <xangua> ooph: please drop that attitude
[14:16] <WilliamLarrieu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73782/my-windows-do-not-resize-when-i-drag-them-on-top-or-on-side-of-my-screen
[14:16] <Blackadder> wow Yakuake is awesome its somewhat like freebsd I can have as many shells to work in at the same time thanks for the tip guys
[14:17] <xangua> WilliamLarrieu: tried to reset unity setting and deleting compiz configuration¿
[14:17] <ooph> xangua: really? you're going to yell at me for defending your abuse of that poor bot? you need to start reading the stuff you're having the bot say, if you're going to get all jumpy about it.
[14:20] <gulzar> is mono being removed from Ubuntu default installation?
[14:22] <WilliamLarrieu> xangua: no I did not tried to reset unity setting and deleting compiz configuration. How to do so?
[14:22] <ooph> speaking of mono... has anyone noticed that removing tomtom requires the installation of gnote? also, removing openoffice requires installation of abiword. seems kinda silly to me, requiring an unused application to be replaced with another unused application...
[14:22] <ooph> also, removing brasero cascades into a removal of gnome.
[14:22] <xangua> WilliamLarrieu: to reset unity: unity --reset
[14:22] <WilliamLarrieu> In empathy, how not to display the messages of user logging
[14:22] <xangua> and compiz, delete .compiz directory on your home
[14:22] <WilliamLarrieu> xangua: this won't brake anything ?
[14:23] <WilliamLarrieu> the settings to remove the ask for password for example?
[14:24] <WilliamLarrieu> xangua: i need to restart my comp then?
[14:24] <glebihan> ooph, the removal of brasero only cascades into the removal of the gnome meta-package afaik. No real package is removed
[14:25] <xangua> WilliamLarrieu: no
[14:25] <xangua> already reset unitu WilliamLarrieu ¿
[14:25] <WilliamLarrieu> xangua: I should have done a SUDO unity --reset
[14:25] <WilliamLarrieu> yes I did
[14:25] <xangua> no, just unity --reset
[14:25] <WilliamLarrieu> ok that is what I have done
[14:25] <WilliamLarrieu> this command did things, but not sloved my problem
[14:26] <xangua> then try to delete yor .compiz directory on your home WilliamLarrieu, control+h to show hidden directories
[14:26] <WilliamLarrieu> Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXCreateContext failed
[14:26] <WilliamLarrieu> Compiz (bailer) - Info: Ensuring a shell for your session
[14:26] <WilliamLarrieu> ok thx
[14:27] <WilliamLarrieu> i only have a .compiz-1 directory. I remove it
[14:27] <WilliamLarrieu> should i restart mùy comp?
[14:27] <WilliamLarrieu> my comp?
[14:27] <xangua> compiz-1  ¿¿
[14:27] <nimbiotics> Hello evry1. I'm using remote desktop viewer to control another PC on my LAN. Is there a way to start the remote session on another workspace so what I'm doing does not interfere with the desktop? TIA!
[14:28] <thoidingjam> i need help installing true combat elite please
[14:28] <WilliamLarrieu> yes this is the name of the directory .compiz-1
[14:28] <WilliamLarrieu> (this was, I deleted it)
[14:28] <thoidingjam> i need help installing true combat elite please ..on ubuntu 9.4
[14:28] <xangua> WilliamLarrieu: no, it should be only '.compiz'
[14:28] <xangua> not compiz-1 compiz2 compiz-3 whatever
[14:28] <xangua> thoidingjam: please upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[14:29] <WilliamLarrieu> xangua: I don't have this folder
[14:29] <thoidingjam> which one?
[14:29] <gulzar> is mono being removed from Ubuntu default installation?
[14:29] <xangua> thoidingjam: ubuntu 11.10 is latest, 10.04 is LTS
[14:29] <WilliamLarrieu> should I restart my comp?
[14:29] <xangua> WilliamLarrieu: no, just restar your user sesion
[14:30] <thoidingjam> Xangua can yu help help with that then?
[14:30] <xangua> thoidingjam: you can download ubuntu from ubuntu.com
[14:30] <thoidingjam> i can jump from 9.4 to 11 straight?
[14:31] <xangua> thoidingjam: if by that you mean fresh install, yes
[14:31] <outer_space> how do you add a path to environment PATH variable for the user www-data?  I have tried adding it to /etc/profile, /etc/environment and it wont work
[14:31] <glebihan> thoidingjam, no and you should probably make a fresh install rather than an upgrade
[14:31] <obert-> how to keep the toolbar on the left side always showed?
[14:31] <obert-> stressfull
[14:31] <saulus> how can I automount my extern usb hdd and have group read access? When pluggin the hdd in it gets mounted to /media/hdd with user read only access. I need group read access. Any ideas?
[14:31] <xangua> obert-: you can configure unity plugin with compiz setting manager
[14:31] <xangua> !ccsm | obert-
[14:32] <thoidingjam> glebihan, what to do to fresh install
[14:32] <obert-> xangua: via apt-get install?
[14:33] <xangua> obert-: apt. aptituse. software center, whatever you like
[14:33] <xangua> aptitude*
[14:33] <glebihan> thoidingjam, download a CD from ubuntu's website
[14:33] <obert-> mhm ty
[14:33] <ukasz> Siemanko :)
[14:34] <obert-> !compiz
[14:36] <Notes> compdoc: done
[14:36] <thoidingjam> do you have a link to follow plz paste it for ..its hard to understand the all interwinding faqs online
[14:36] <WilliamLarrieu> xangua: (metacity:2012): Gtk-WARNING **: Impossible de trouver le moteur de thème dans module_path : « pixmap »
[14:36] <thoidingjam> glebihan,  do you have a link to follow plz paste it for ..its hard to understand the all interwinding faqs online
[14:36] <dokg> hi !
[14:36] <dokg> how do I have the list of users of the system ?
[14:36] <compdoc> Notes, and did the command run?
[14:36] <dokg> and also the current user ?
[14:37] <dokg> anyone?
[14:37] <saulus> re
[14:37] <outer_space> how do you add more path to the result of this command "sudo -u www-data printenv PATH"
[14:37] <saulus> did someone post an answer to my problem while my system hung?
[14:38] <glebihan> !install | thoidingjam
[14:38] <WilliamLarrieu> hot not to display connexion logs in Empathy
[14:38] <ryannathans> so i boot 11.10 live usb on my server in hopes of recovering what's on the raid array, there's no /dev/md0  dmraid -r  says there's no raid disks
[14:38] <ryannathans> what do
[14:39] <WilliamLarrieu> I have thousands of 'User... quit'
[14:39] <ironhalik> how the hell do I check how much free space there is on my drive? I had 15 gigs used, with some media in home dir, I removed  it and theres still 15 gigs used :>
[14:39] <ironhalik> and yes, the whole file system, including /home is mounted on the same drive
[14:39] <llutz> outer_space:  "sudo -u www-data printenv PATH"  prints $PATH of the user issuing sudo-command
[14:39] <obert-> xangua: seems that using unity plugin 'autohidden==never' will fix it,thanks. (but still i think that is a ridiculous default setting
[14:40] <outer_space> no it prints the path of the -u arg
[14:40] <nimbiotics> Is it possible to have 2 simultaneos on 1 linux PC, specifically; one directly on the machine and the other via LAN? if so how? TIA!
[14:40] <nimbiotics> Is it possible to have 2 simultaneous users on 1 linux PC, specifically; one directly on the machine and the other via LAN? if so how? TIA!
[14:40] <outer_space> I have tried adding to the path in /etc/environment, /etc/profile, and /home/www-data/.bashrc, none of those 3 ways affects path for www-data
[14:41] <hrolf> How do I remove the guest/other account in Ubuntu?
[14:41] <dhirez_> hello there
[14:41] <hrolf> It doesn't requires any password and any one can login (which looks scary)
[14:41] <hrolf> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10
[14:41] <e-DIO-t> Thunderbird stops with: "Details: The application did not identify itself." -> Ubuntu 11.10 + Gnome-Shell. Any idea?
[14:41] <thoidingjam> brrrrrrrr nyt
[14:42] <llutz> outer_space: check you sudo -u ... printenv again. at least here it shows my users $PATH (sudo doesn't set environment if not called with -i)
[14:44] <outer_space> sudo -u www-data printenv PATH has a different result than printenv PATH
[14:44] <saulus> When I plug in my HDD, which program automounts it?
[14:44] <outer_space> I am going to try exporting the path before every command that www-data issues
[14:44] <AdhamSabry> hi, how can I run a movie in totem with subtitles, it always asks for plugins that is xsub something
[14:45] <xangua> AdhamSabry: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ¿
[14:45] <AdhamSabry> yes I guess
[14:45] <eu1> salut
[14:45] <AdhamSabry> how can I check if I did install them?
[14:46] <AdhamSabry> xangua?
[14:46] <ErFlako> hi
[14:46] <llutz> AdhamSabry: apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:46] <xangua> AdhamSabry: try to install it, if it is installed it will say to you that already is
[14:46] <outer_space> is there really no way to add to the path that www-data gets in PATH?
[14:46] <ErFlako> need some serious help with my Nvidia configuration in Ubuntu Studio 11.10
[14:47] <AdhamSabry> installed none
[14:47] <WilliamLarrieu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73782/my-windows-do-not-resize-when-i-drag-them-on-top-or-on-side-of-my-screen
[14:48] <AdhamSabry> llutz, do I apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:48] <AdhamSabry> right?
[14:48] <ErFlako> ?
[14:48] <llutz> AdhamSabry: if you want to install that, yes
[14:48] <dokg> please help ... how do I exit VI editor ? (((
[14:48] <llutz> dokg: esc :q!
[14:48] <AdhamSabry> thank you llutz and xangua :-)
[14:48] <dokg> llutz, god ........... thanks!!
[14:49] <ErFlako> how do i stop xserver in ubuntu studio???  (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop doesn't work)
[14:50] <Toph2> my disc partitions are /, /home and /swap. If i do an upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 from cd, will my /hone partition be affected?
[14:50] <CarlFK> how do I restore  /etc/ssh/sshd_config back to its default?
[14:50] <CarlFK> ErFlako: try$ sudo  service lightdm stop
[14:50] <compdoc> Toph2, it should leave it intact
[14:51] <compdoc> as long as you run the upgrade and not the install
[14:51] <Toph2> compdoc,,, ok,, i'll give it a go,, i have backed up
[14:51] <Toph2> comno,, i want to run the install
[14:51] <compdoc> Toph2, insert the cd while uunut is ruinning
[14:51] <Toph2> compdoc,,,
[14:51] <compdoc> *ubuntu
[14:51] <Toph2> ok
[14:51] <compdoc> it should ask to upgrade
[14:52] <glebihan> Toph2, as long as you don't format it, your home partition won't be affected
[14:52] <ErFlako> CarlFK: lightdm stop/waiting
[14:52] <compdoc> Toph2, oh, you want to install fresh, and not upgrade?
[14:52] <Toph2> compdoc,,, i have upgraded with poor results,, i was wanting to do a completly new install
[14:52] <compdoc> good idea
[14:52] <Toph2> glebihan,,, ok,, thanks
[14:53] <llutz> CarlFK: either purge/reinstall openssh-server or extract it from /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst
[14:53] <ErFlako> CarlFK: great!!!!! you're very welcome
[14:54] <nimbiotics> Is it possible to have 2 simultaneous users on 1 linux PC, specifically; one directly on the machine and the other via LAN? if so how? TIA!
[14:54] <CarlFK> llutz: neat - thanks
[14:54] <compdoc> nimbiotics, sharing the desktop, or running different desktops?
[14:54] <CarlFK> nimbiotics: yes.  ssh or vnc
[14:55] <ErFlako> CarlFK: now I've to disable the Nouveau kernel driver
[14:55] <nimbiotics> compdoc, running different desktops
[14:56] <Kaigeos> is there somthing in the software center that is similar in function to "Fraps"
[14:56] <compdoc> nimbiotics, vnc4server
[14:56] <nimbiotics> compdoc: thx
[14:58] <kvijayreddy10> hi
[14:59] <arges_> hi
[14:59] <NadimX> Hello guys .. i have a problem with Arabic text rendering in twitter bios in chromium or opera .. it shows as squares as such " i blurred the Eng text" http://twitpic.com/7b45wg ... text renders fine in Firefox .. any help ?
[15:02] <haytham-med> NadimX, i use epiphany for fast browsing
[15:03] <compdoc> if you default PATH= was erased, how would you set it back to defaults?
[15:03] <compdoc> *your
[15:03] <edbian> compdoc: restart is the easiest way
[15:04] <compdoc> a restart resets it?
[15:04] <edbian> compdoc: yeah
[15:04] <edbian> compdoc: It's set from some file at boot
[15:05] <compdoc> someone seems to be missing their PATH, they cant run commands. Like they cant run 'sudo', they have to run '/usr/bin/sudo
[15:05] <compdoc> '
[15:05] <edbian> compdoc: that's correct
[15:05] <compdoc> no, its a problem
[15:05] <edbian> compdoc: reboot
[15:07] <llutz> compdoc: source /etc/environment
[15:08] <llutz> compdoc: thats no reason to reboot
[15:10] <iordan> hey guys, can somebody please send me a private message, I want to test Xchat's sound plugin (to make sure it makes sounds) :D
[15:11] <scottj> anyone use a US tablet 3g plan with a linux laptop?
[15:14] <procrastuabtor> Guys so I think I messed up my hard drive somehow. I reinstalled 10.10 because I was always seeing "Networking Disabled" from the boot os though a live usb was able to see wireless networks properly. Ran the Live USB, went to Disk Util and formatted my hard drive clean. Tried to reinstall Ubuntu 10.10 and Fedora 10 but they both failed. Both installations hanged at the same place: Examining Stroage Devices
[15:15] <procrastuabtor> I can seem to use my laptop sort of functionally from the Live USB
[15:15] <ubidoobi2> anybody with knowledge of modifying grub for win7 and ubuntu prv msg me please.  thanks!
[15:15] <procrastuabtor> but not viable in the long run
[15:15] <deeperror> anyone have a link to some resources on moving from i386 -> amd64 on a system?  Or is it best to just blast 32 and move to 64 clean install?
[15:16] <llutz> deeperror: there is no clean way to change from 32 to 64bit. backup and reinstallation is much easier
[15:16] <haytham-med> procrastuabtor, unplug network while installing
[15:17] <ubidoobi2> anybody with knowledge of modifying grub for win7 and ubuntu prv msg me please.  thanks!
[15:17] <Kaigeos> anyone have a suggestion to an alternative to Fraps for Oneric?
[15:17] <OY1R> trying to add a user in ubuntu 10.04 i get a message "The vconfiguration could not be saved. You are not allowed to modify the system c"onfiguration
[15:17] <llutz> ubidoobi2: you want to add w7 to grub? sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[15:17] <digirak> My AWN weather app is not connecting to the internet
[15:17] <Stanley00> ubidoobi2: why dont you ask your question here, it's better,I think
[15:17] <digirak> can anyone help me wiht this?
[15:18] <OY1R> s/c"onfiguration/configuration"
[15:18] <nimbiotics> I've I have a fresh install of 11.10 and while trying to install all the software I need, I've been getting error messages like the one shwon at http://paste.ubuntu.com/729158/ ,  what is wrong here and how can I fix it? TIA!
[15:18] <Kaigeos> digirak the weather app does connect, I get that error all the time, but it does update correctly, but I too would like to get rid of the error
[15:19] <procrastubas> haytham-med: Nope, didn't seem to work
[15:20] <digirak> Kaigeos: I have a fix for that go to /usr/share/avant-window-navigator/applets/weather/weather.py
[15:20] <digirak> Kaigeos: and comment out line 240 with a #
[15:20] <digirak> Kaigeos: it will not notify
[15:20] <Kaigeos> thanks digirak
[15:20] <haytham-med> that fast?
[15:20] <deeperror> llutz: that's what i thought, thanks!
[15:21] <digirak> but my issue is that the app actually doesnt' connect
[15:21] <Kaigeos> ahh, that bites :(
[15:21] <Kaigeos> are there third party addons for AWN?
[15:21] <StepNjump> how do I mount a sdx on anything else other than /mnt please?
[15:21] <digirak> I don't know, I think most are third party
[15:22] <Kaigeos> ahh, could be part of the problem then digirak
[15:22] <llutz> StepNjump: sudo mount /dev/whatever  /wherever           /wherever has to exist
[15:22] <digirak> it started off suddenly last night
[15:22] <StepNjump> llutz ok thanks. Where do I create the /wherever directory?
[15:23] <OY1R> how do i add a user in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[15:23] <StepNjump> at root llutz?
[15:23] <llutz> StepNjump: as the name says, wherever you want your stuff being mounted
[15:23] <ubidoobi2> anybody with knowledge of modifying grub for win7 and ubuntu prv msg me please.  thanks!
[15:24] <StepNjump> ok thanks llutz
[15:24] <llutz> ubidoobi2: you want to add w7 to grub? sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[15:26] <koch> for french langage??
[15:26] <haytham-med> that as regards grub2
[15:26] <llutz> !pm | ubidoobi2
[15:26] <asher^> hi all, im having a problem with permissions. i have a folder that i have set 'mysql' as the owner to, and even set permissions to 777, but mysql cant write a file to that folder
[15:27] <ubidoobi2> llutz ... hi yes .. sorry to bother you ... i have win7 on the drive .. put it on first ... installed 11.10 with alternate cd .. would not take the desktop pc .. when it came to installing grub ... it could not find win7 ... so it asked if i would like to install a 2nd os later and i said yes ... when it boots up now i see no instance of the grub loader .. however i checked and the files are in the dir.
[15:28] <llutz> !grub |ubidoobi2: seems you need to rewrite grub into MBR
[15:29] <REK_007> is it true that we wont be able to boot linux with windows 8 ?
[15:29] <llutz> REK_007: untrue and offtopic here
[15:30] <iordan1> If you can't boot Linux with Windows 8, then you simply don't install W8 physically but in a VM
[15:31] <llutz> iordan1: that'll be a BIOS option and is still offtopic
[15:32] <iordan1> :) indeed! I shall not answer offtopic questions with offtopic answers!!
[15:32] <nimbiotics> I've I have a fresh install of 11.10 and while trying to install all the software I need, I've been getting error messages like the one shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/729158/ ,  what is wrong here and how can I fix it? TIA!
[15:33] <dmcqueen> Hello - is there a way to increase the size allocated to the /run partition (11.10)?
[15:35] <dwelch> Hey guys, looking for some advice on how to setup a Ubuntu server w/ Apach to allow multiple users to host WordPress sites.
[15:35] <dwelch> I already know how to setup all these (and have done so), but what I cannot figure out is how to setup permissions / users so that each user can upload files through WordPress & have FTP access, but not be able to see any of the other users directories
[15:35] <naftilos76> hi everyone, is there an app that can open txt files of 10Mb and run search functions within it in a decent time?
[15:35] <Jordan_U> naftilos76: grep
[15:36] <naftilos76> i am talking about a text editor
[15:36] <jasef> nano.
[15:36] <naftilos76> grep is ok but not what i am looking for
[15:36] <llutz> vim naftilos76
[15:36] <Jordan_U> naftilos76: Also less emacs and vim (before trying to use vim run "vimtutor").
[15:36] <dwelch> @naftilos vim?
[15:36] <nmap> hi
[15:36] <OY1R> im an logged in as administrator but when i try to make a new user i get "The configuration could not be saved, you are not allowed to modify the system configuration" running ubuntu 10.04.
[15:37] <nmap> some one users fglrx driver?
[15:37] <nmap> for radeon video cards
[15:37] <dwelch> Anyone have experience setting up multi-user servers with Apache? Or know of a good reference for properly setting up permissions?
[15:37] <uGotServed> OYIR: that's because you must not have permissions to modify that stuff under your "Admin" user
[15:37] <naftilos76> what about one with a GUI? i am not really feeling comfortable with vi or vim. Anyone?
[15:38] <llutz> gvim naftilos76
[15:38] <iordan> Does anybody know if we'll have a gnome2-like (or gnome2) window manager in the next Ubuntu LTS?
[15:38] <uGotServed> use Kate
[15:38] <uGotServed> best GUI editor in my opinion
[15:38] <uGotServed> I love it
[15:38] <naftilos76> oh, is there gvim? didn't know that...Kate is painfully low.
[15:38] <dmcqueen> Anyone?  Can the /run partition be made to be larger?
[15:38] <uGotServed> in console just type "kate"
[15:39] <jasef> iordan, unfortunately, GNOME has discontinued support for GNOME2, to the best of my knowledge. Xfce is pretty good though.
[15:39] <uGotServed> naftilos76: only if you have room in the proper place on that drive
[15:40] <uGotServed> naftilos76: otherwise you would have to make a new partition and then move everything from /run to the new one and then use the new one which is larger
[15:40] <ubidoobi2> llutz : typed in sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub   5 mins ago .. seems hung @ Generating grub.cfg       ........... is  this normal?
[15:40] <llutz> ubidoobi2: no
[15:40] <procrastubas> uGotServed: if i formatted m hard drive, do i have to make a partition bvefore installing linux again?
[15:40] <uGotServed> ubidoobi2: why didn't you just use a small GUI at least
[15:41] <nimbiotics> I've I have a fresh install of 11.10 and while trying to install all the software I need, I've been getting error messages like the one shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/729158/ ,  what is wrong here and how can I fix it? TIA!
[15:41] <ubidoobi2> ugotserved : .... i have no idea what i'm doing in linux : obviously lol ... so i'm just learning ... just want to get the win7 and ubuntu dual booting with grub
[15:41] <uGotServed> procrastubas: not necessarily.  As long as you leave room for another partition, you can make it after install or anytime you want to for that matter
[15:42] <StepNjump> cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/boot/grub': No such file or directory. Is there a switch (or argument)  to copy files to a non-existing directory structure destination?
[15:42] <uGotServed> Download the openSUSE 11.3 installation and let it install Linux for you
[15:42] <uGotServed> it will be painless
[15:42] <procrastubas> uGotServed: Would you know why the installer might hang at the "Examining Basic Storage Devices" part?
[15:42] <procrastubas> Alright
[15:42] <uGotServed> same goes for Ubuntu
[15:42] <Guest29391> hello guys
[15:42] <Jordan_U> ubidoobi2: What version of Ubuntu are you using? What is the output of "sudo os-prober"? Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[15:42] <uGotServed> shame on me for even mentioning ubuntu lol
[15:42] <uGotServed> i'm an opensuse linux user
[15:43] <uGotServed> but ubuntu is great
[15:43] <uGotServed> I love them both really
[15:43] <StepNjump> Without having to &&
[15:43] <Jordan_U> !ot | uGotServed
[15:43] <uGotServed> Roger that!
[15:43] <ubidoobi2> Jordan_U ... it's the latest version 11.10 ... I can try and find the pastebin and do that ... there was no output from "sudo os-prober"
[15:43] <Guest29391> hey can someone help me?? i want to triple boot unix, windows and ubuntu, which order am i supposed to do this?
[15:44] <Jordan_U> Guest29391: Which Unix?
[15:44] <kevin> hey guys i need a help
[15:44] <Guest29391> Free BSD
[15:44] <Jordan_U> !pm | Guest29391
[15:45] <Jordan_U> Guest29391: I would recommend Windows, then Free BSD, then Ubuntu. But any order can be made to work.
[15:45] <Guest29391> oh im extremely sorry! i never knew the rules
[15:45] <Guest29391> im very sorry
[15:45] <Guest29391> thank you :)
[15:45] <Guest29391> can BSD be made to use GRUB?
[15:46] <alexcockell> Might it be easier to run BSD in a VM?
[15:46] <auronandace> Guest29391: yes, you can boot any bsd with grub
[15:46] <Jordan_U> Guest29391: Yes, but that's somewhat offtopic for this channel. When you install Ubuntu, Ubuntu's grub2 should automatically detect and add an entry for Free BSD to the menu at boot.
[15:46] <Guest29391> thank you! and I think that would be all!
[15:47] <Guest43472> I have acer one netbook with windows 7 pre installed I am planning to install ubuntu along with it. which version shall i choese 10.04 or 11.10?
[15:47] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ubidoobi2
[15:48] <jellow> I want a lightweight OS thinking ubuntu + xfce that I can put on an sd card so i can use it on multiple systems , Any special requirements how does grub handle it ?
[15:48] <Guest29391> kevin_takeshi 10.10
[15:48] <xangua> jellow: you mean xubuntu ¿
[15:48] <Guest29391> jellow use Chrome OS
[15:48] <harsh343> open ~/.bash_profile
[15:48] <harsh343>   this command not work why ???????/
[15:48] <Guest29391> i think you will benefit from that
[15:48] <xangua> lubuntu is even lighter ;)
[15:48] <jellow> xangua: what is lubuntu ?
[15:49] <Guest29391> harsh343 try opening it with gedit
[15:49] <harsh343> ok
[15:49] <Jordan_U> jellow: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE pre-installed. Grub has nothing to do with what desktop environment you use, and an sd card is like any other drive as far as grub is concerned.
[15:49] <elz89> jellow: !lubuntu
[15:49] <kevin_takeshi> does ubuntu 10.10 go along with windows 7 without any hassel ?
[15:49] <dwelch> Hmm, looking for a grep statement to find all files owned by a particular user and delete them (recursively from the directory I'm in)
[15:49] <Guest29391> kevin_takeshi yes, im using that right now :)
[15:49] <dwelch> anyone care to help me figure it out?
[15:50] <elz89> !lubuntu
[15:50] <Jordan_U> kevin_takeshi: Yes, but why would you install Ubuntu 10.10 rather than 10.04 LTS or 11.10?
[15:50] <elz89> !lubuntu
[15:50] <Guest29391> dwelch just type "sudo nautilus" and then delete using normal methods
[15:50] <harsh343> Guest29391, but this is blank file
[15:50] <vtm> hi
[15:50] <vtm> why should i use Ubuntu rather than Win 7
[15:51] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Guest29391 dwelch
[15:51] <Guest29391> harsh343 exactly! it will be a blank file! you have to then manually add data to it
[15:51] <dwelch> @Guest29391 I'm on a server environment
[15:51] <dwelch> No gui :(
[15:51] <harsh343> vtm, because it is free and also so many users help you if u have any queries
[15:51] <vtm> okay
[15:51] <kevin_takeshi> jordan_U: I did not ask about 10.10 Guest29391 recommended it
[15:51] <vtm> but is Unity any good
[15:52] <jellow> can I install lubuntu onto an sd card via Vbox or some other means ?
[15:52] <Guest29391> kevin_takeshi I use 10.10 becuase i feel 11.10 is bad, becuase of Unity
[15:52] <vtm> what's so bad about unity
[15:52] <Jordan_U> !notunity | Guest29391
[15:52] <auronandace> vtm: there are many desktop environments to choose from if you don't like unity
[15:52] <bekks> Guest29391: Why dont you use 11.04 then?
[15:52] <vtm> couldn't you use 11.10 but unistall Unity?
[15:53] <auronandace> vtm: unity is more geared towards netbooks and casual users
[15:53] <Guest29391> bekks i heard that 11.04 also uses unity? perhaps?
[15:53] <nieros> unity is fine
[15:53] <nieros> it's intuitive and kind of pretty
[15:53] <kevin_takeshi> Guest29391: is 10.10 available for netbook ? netbook remix is available in 10.10
[15:53]  * nieros shrugs
[15:53] <Janhouse> Please vote for the Pidgin "history page" feature proposal: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/14726
[15:53] <Janhouse> if any of you care about Pidgin
[15:53] <bekks> Guest29391: You dont have to use it on 11.04, on 11.10, you have to.
[15:54] <nieros> bekks: You can still run classic gnome
[15:54] <Guest29391> kevin_takeshio sorry, i am not sure
[15:54] <nieros> it's just not prepackaged
[15:54] <bekks> nieros: I know.
[15:54] <Jordan_U> kevin_takeshi: There is no separate netbook remix as Unity is designed for both netbooks and Desktops.
[15:54] <dwelch>  rm -rf `find ./ -user www-data`
[15:54] <harsh343> Guest29391, but when i use this command then 2 pages opens one for open and other for .base_profile now where i can edit ???
[15:54] <dwelch> that took care of what I needed :)
[15:54] <Guest29391> bekks is it compulsory?
[15:54] <Guest29391> hey hang on
[15:54] <Guest29391> can you please
[15:54] <hrolf> How can I view what is the name of my wireless driver?
[15:54] <Guest29391> tell me how to change my name?
[15:54] <FloodBot1> Guest29391: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:54] <jasef> Guest29391, type /nick newnamehere
[15:54] <Guest29391> ok :) sure thanks :)
[15:54] <dwelch> Is there a channel for Ubuntu server help?
[15:55] <auronandace> bekks: unity is in no way compulsary, you can use whatever desktop you want
[15:55] <jasef> dwelch, #ubuntu-server
[15:55] <ubidoobi2> gawk could not be found ......... grrr
[15:55] <dwelch> ah ty
[15:55] <greennumbers> May I get an opinion on x11vnc?
[15:55] <Jordan_U> dwelch: Don't run a command like that again. Existance of spaces in file names could have made that disastrous.
[15:55] <Guest29391> my name is not getting changed, anything i have to do before this?
[15:55] <llutz> dwelch: find ./ -user www-data -delete
[15:55] <bekks> auronandace: I you do know how, yes. But since he - Guest29391 - still uses 10.10 while fearing Unity, I guess he dont know how ;)
[15:55] <jasef> Guest29391, maybe it's already taken, try another perhaps
[15:56] <Neo> aha
[15:56] <kevin_takeshi> Jordan_U: does unity consume more power when installed in Netbook and laptop?
[15:56] <auronandace> bekks: telling him he doesn't have a choice isn't fair
[15:56] <Jordan_U> kevin_takeshi: Consume more power than what?
[15:56] <Guest22814> bekks I tried 11.04 but since i couldnt figure out how to make unity go away and keep compiz
[15:57] <kevin_takeshi> GNOME
[15:57] <bekks> Guest22814: type in your name in the login screen, then change the session setting, then press the login button.
[15:57] <kevin_takeshi> Jordan_U: Than GNOME
[15:57] <jasef> Guest22814, if the name is already registered, it'll make you go back to guest
[15:57] <bekks> Guest22814: And that applies to 11.10 too. You can install whatever desktop environment you want.
[15:57] <Guest22814> jasef how do i make it permanent?
[15:57] <jiltdil> Is any one have idea how to fix cheese, it is showing odd colors. I am on 64bit Ubuntu.
[15:58] <Lance> thank you bekks
[15:58] <Guest48488> yet again i am back to Guest
[15:58] <jasef> Guest22814, if the name is already registered, you don't. You need to use a name that's not registered.
[15:58] <Guest48488> how do i make it permanent?
[15:58] <bekks> By using a name that is not registered.
[15:59] <slike> Hi i noticed that my laptop battery wears out more quickly when i use it very often (excuse my grammar fault, i learn english). In fact should I let the battery in the pc or take it off ?
[15:59] <Jordan_U> kevin_takeshi: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME3 by default, it just doesn't use GNOME shell, or GNOME2 like pannels, by default. I wouldn't expect Unity to use more power than GNOME shell and if you have good graphics drivers then it probably is on par with plain panels as well, though that's just a guess.
[15:59] <hrolf> How can I view what is the name of my wireless driver?
[15:59] <jasef> Lokesh, if you want to know if a name is registered, you can just type /ns info namehere
[15:59] <Lokesh> hrolf google it
[15:59] <Lokesh> thank you
[16:00] <jasef> Lokesh, I'm sorry, did you just tell that person to google their problem instead of asking here?
[16:00] <jiltdil> Cheese is working fine at 800*480, but going above  it shows odd color . My webcam is hD supporting 1280*720
[16:00] <smw> I believe openvpn writes to the system log. How can I read what it writes?
[16:00] <jiltdil> How to fix?
[16:00] <kevin_takeshi> Jordan_U: I do not have a graphics drivers in my netbook
[16:00] <Lokesh> jasef should i not say that?
[16:01] <HashNuke> hey guys, how do i check the log to see if one of my init scripts has failed?
[16:01] <badr> salut
[16:01] <jasef> Lokesh, it's kind of inconsiderate when you're being helped here, then you go and tell someone else to google instead of getting help here too.
[16:01] <jasef> Lokesh, most people have googled before they come here anyway.
[16:01] <remote> hello
[16:01] <HashNuke> is there any log file where i can find the boot stuff?
[16:01] <remote> recently my mother upgraded her ubuntu laptop and it broke the X installation
[16:01] <meadhikari> dmesg
[16:01] <Jordan_U> kevin_takeshi: A graphics driver is not a physical device, it's the code used to handle your graphics hardware (which, if your netbook has a screen, does exist).
[16:02] <Lokesh> jasef my sincere apologies, i am new to this place and hence i have said that sorry!
[16:02] <remote> "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility"
[16:02] <meadhikari> HashNuke, r u searching for dmesg?
[16:02] <Lokesh> HashNuke im guessing you can write --debug-init
[16:02] <bekks> meadhikari: dmesg doesnt list any errors from booting, but just from the kernel ring buffer.
[16:02] <remote> is shown when the laptop tries to start gdm
[16:02] <slike> Hi i noticed that my laptop battery wears out more quickly when i use it very often (excuse my grammar fault, i learn english). In fact should I let the battery in the pc or take it off ?
[16:02] <jasef> Eh... I'm sleepy.
[16:02] <jasef> I'll help more tomorrow.
[16:02] <Lokesh> slike wat do u mean?
[16:03] <Jordan_U> !u | Lokesh
[16:03] <Qualia> When browsing files, if i type something to select a file/folder to access it faster, how do i delete what i typed when i enter in that folder and wanna do the same thing again
[16:03] <Lokesh> ok I will not use "u"
[16:03] <remote> what a hunk of ****
[16:03] <HashNuke> bekks: ya thats what i need. whatever happened while booting.
[16:03] <Qualia> because what ive written doesnt get deleted as long as im still browsing files in same window
[16:03] <kg> After installing 11.10 my cannon scanner worked.  Now after updating the system, it doesn't.  What should I do?
[16:04] <kevin_takeshi> Jordan_U: shall i go with Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:04] <Qualia> i hope you get the question ...
[16:04] <bekks> HashNuke: You wont see any init scripts messages in there.
[16:04] <HashNuke> bekks: oh
[16:04] <Jordan_U> kevin_takeshi: That's what I would recommend.
[16:04] <Lokesh> kevin_takeshi I think that is your best bet. :)
[16:04] <req^> upgrading seems to often bring a lot of problems :)
[16:04] <bekks> HashNuke: dmesg just shows you the kernel ring buffer.
[16:04] <HashNuke> ah. ok
[16:04] <Lokesh> HashNuke: exactly what are you trying to achieve?
[16:05] <HashNuke> Lokesh: one of my init scripts is erroring out, i just want to find out what the errors are.
[16:05] <bekks> HashNuke: then insert "set -xv" as second line, and start it manually.
[16:06] <HashNuke> bekks: k. thanks!
[16:06] <Lokesh> HashNuke: since you mentioned init, im going to assume you meant "init.d" which is the booting aspect of the Kernal
[16:06] <HashNuke> Lokesh: yes
[16:06] <kevin_takeshi> Jordan_U: will 11.04 smoothly along with windows 7 during the installtion process ?
[16:06] <req^> How would I roll back versions of updated programs in ubuntu? At some point wine was upgraded and now one of my games no longer works. Would it be easy to roll back or would I have to completely remove and install an l
[16:06] <req^> an older version
[16:07] <Lokesh> kevin_takeshi just in case, keep a windows 7 DVD
[16:07] <slike> Lokesh: im afraid my battery loses all its capacity. Do you think I should let the pc plugged in with the battery or remove it when I use the laptop ??
[16:07] <Ash-Loydon> since upgrading to 11.4 my printer is ouputting each color below where it should be on the page. I've google searched and cant find a solution. Printer is epson sx200. Any ideas?
[16:07] <Jordan_U> kevin_takeshi: Yes. All supported versions of Ubuntu will.
[16:08] <kevin_takeshi> But once i had a problem after installing 10.04 along with windows 7 and wubi installtion did not go well
[16:08] <Lokesh> after the battery charges to a 100%, you want to remove the charger, wait for it to become critically low then again connect the charger.
[16:08] <auronandace> kevin_takeshi: wubi is always a bad idea
[16:08] <ryannathans> mdadm supports raid 5 ya?
[16:09] <kevin_takeshi> Lokesh: mine is netbook there is cd drive and hence no windoes 7 DVD
[16:09] <jtrag> wubi actually/ works well
[16:09] <jtrag> never had any problems with it
[16:09] <Lokesh> kevin_takeshi you may want to copy windows 7 files to USB drive before proceeding
[16:09] <gazgor> hi. could anybody give me link from where I can get playdeb packages? i don't want to add their repository, I need only two games.
[16:10] <Lokesh> gazgor, add the repository and consider removing them once your done... I dont see the need of not having them.
[16:12] <johnyB1> anybody knows how to change file association in 10.04?
[16:12] <Lokesh> gazgor, which two games?
[16:12] <Lokesh> johnyB1 expand
[16:12] <kevin_takeshi> Thank you guys
[16:13] <kevin_takeshi> I plan to go with 11.10
[16:13] <Lokesh> welcome :)
[16:13] <gazgor> Lokesh: actually, only freeciv
[16:13] <Lokesh> good game?
[16:14] <johnyB1> Lokesh: when i click on .png file, it offers by default to open it with opera (my default web browser), i can change it to image viewer, but the box to select image viewer as default is dimmed, i cannot change the default choice.
[16:14] <gazgor> Lokesh: turn based strategy, if you played original Civilization you should like it
[16:15] <Lokesh> are general Linux questions allowed? or am I limited to Ubuntu?
[16:15] <auronandace> Lokesh: what is the question?
[16:16] <Lokesh> regarding Chromium OS
[16:16] <Lokesh> can I make it to use GRUB?
[16:16] <grkblood> is bluray playback supported yet?
[16:16] <johnyB1> does anybody know how to change default file association in 10.04?
[16:17] <auronandace> Lokesh: that isn't general  linux, thats chromium os specific
[16:17] <slike> Lokesh: If I charge it everytime, the capacity of the battery will be reduced faster..
[16:17] <auronandace> Lokesh: i don't see why not, ask the chromium devs
[16:17] <slike> Lokesh: Letting the battery in the pc is the same as not to plug it ?
[16:18] <Lokesh> yes
[16:18] <Lokesh> slike
[16:18] <anonissimus> I just upgraded an not I get the following error on boot: unable to connect to system bus: Failed to conect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[16:18] <anonissimus> any pointers what direction I should look at?
[16:18] <Lokesh> anonissimus just add sudo in the beginning and try again
[16:18] <hc96> Hi! A few seconds after logging in the button shapes change to ugly, looks like default gtk-buttons. See here: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/jmk9eiiv/1_006.png . See the buttons in the logout-form or the shape of the menu. I cannot change that in the appearance menu but the buttons in the appearance menu change (they are the only ones that can be changed). What can I do?
[16:19] <anonissimus> Lokesh: it is an error during boot
[16:19] <Lokesh> that is quite rare
[16:20] <anonissimus> Lokesh: which is why google fails me
[16:20] <anonissimus> I get that eror during boot then the login window, then the same error after login, then I get a black screen with only one instance of nautilus
[16:21] <Lokesh> trouble shooting that problem will be difficult
[16:21] <Lokesh> there are too many things to narrow down
[16:21] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi im trying to save a huge image from googlemaps, thru ff3 (ubuntu 10.10 gnome) and it seems like everything goes well but in the end it doesnt save it. the image is 10000x10000 pixels. i already saved another image of the same size. this one instead just doesnt get saved. but no output errors or anything. anyone can help? is there a max-size-file-limit to be downloaded?
[16:21] <ubidoobi2> how does one pastebin a large txt file?
[16:22] <ubidoobi2> how does one pastebin a large txt file?
[16:22] <anonissimus> Lokesh: is there a way to revert to the situation before the upgrade?
[16:22] <Lokesh> how do i click on your name and make it come to my text bar?
[16:23] <Lokesh> anonissimus I think you *may* have to reinstall ubuntu
[16:24] <wobble_> I just re-partitioned one of my drives and so I have new UUIDs. Is /etc/fstab the only place where I would need to update those UUIDs?
[16:24] <Lokesh> wobble_ yes
[16:24] <Lokesh> probably
[16:25] <anonissimus> Lokesh: I was hoping that would not be the case but ... here we go
[16:26] <Lokesh> did you do anything stupid during the upgrade proccess (like perhaps remove the charger and go to have dinner) like me?
[16:27] <anonissimus> nope, this was on my desktop, just did a plain upgrade, agreed with the standard questions
[16:27] <anonissimus> nothing too particular
[16:27] <anonissimus> meh
[16:28] <anonissimus> might as well switch back to win7
[16:28] <Lokesh> then i may suggest that you not upgrade in the near future, as your hardware is probably not supported
[16:29] <Lokesh> consider trying to get your hands on the upgraded version pop it onto a Live CD and then boot up
[16:29] <GridCube> :D
[16:29] <Lokesh> if everything works perfectly then consider installing it
[16:30] <GridCube> :o
[16:30] <GridCube> is there a way to configure a global proxy?
[16:30] <GridCube> i don't know how to make apt-get work with one
[16:31] <Lokesh> i used to remember a way to do that GridCube, but now i forgot
[16:31] <GridCube> :P thats useful
[16:31] <GridCube> wait ill ask ubottu
[16:31] <GridCube> !proxy
[16:31] <GridCube> no thats not what i meant ubottu
[16:32] <GridCube> !configureproxy
[16:32] <harsh343> can any one plz help me on line no.. 7 http://pastebin.com/23hJ47PH
[16:32] <vlt> Hello. What cmd line tool can I use to playback audio CDs?
[16:33] <Lokesh> harsh343 can we pm?
[16:33] <GridCube> vlt, mplayer
[16:33] <psilo23> Hi everyone, i messed up my Grub, there is two different distro's on my box, but i can only select one at boot up
[16:33] <psilo23> How can i fix that ?
[16:33] <GridCube> Lokesh, if you are going to help is better that you do it here, so it gets logged and people searcing can learn from it
[16:34] <Lokesh> GridCube agreed :)
[16:35] <Lokesh> harsh343, just follow the same instuructions,line number 7, just change "open ~/.bash_profile" to "gedit ~/.bash_profile"
[16:35] <kandinski> hi
[16:35] <Lokesh> then add "alias zf=/usr/local/ZendFrameworkCli/bin/zf.sh" to the end of the file
[16:35] <GridCube> !hello
[16:35] <kandinski> how can I take a snapshot of the screen i noneiric?
[16:36] <Lokesh> assuming its an empty file then just continue
[16:36] <GridCube> press print-scrn?
[16:36] <harsh343> I am using this gedit open ~/.bash_profile
[16:36] <harsh343>   hmmm actually i am using this
[16:36] <extor> !cloak
[16:36] <harsh343> thats why 2 pages open 1for open and 2nd for bash_profile
[16:36] <GridCube> kandinski, press prnt-scrn or launch xfce4-screenshoter
[16:36] <Lokesh> harsh343 HANG ON! your supposed to type gedit ~/.bash_profile
[16:36] <kandinski> GridCube: you know, that worked!
[16:36] <harsh343> Lokesh, thanks
[16:37] <nimbiotics> I desperately need help with "Remote Desktop Viewer": I'd like to login into a remote PC w/o interfering with the currently logged  user. Is this possible? How? TIA!!!
[16:37] <Lokesh> welcome :)
[16:37] <Lokesh> nimbiotics use TELNET :D
[16:37] <GridCube> kandinski, it should XD
[16:37] <nimbiotics> THX
[16:38] <foidle>  
[16:38] <veryhappy> hello. should i take 64 bit or 32 bit version of the new linux???
[16:38] <veryhappy> how far is the development of latest software in 64 bit support?
[16:38] <GridCube> veryfar
[16:39] <glebihan> veryhappy, if you have a 64 bits machine, go for 64bits
[16:39] <GridCube> except for flash, but flash never works on linux very well
[16:39] <veryhappy> well then i dont have to fear that it isnt supported
[16:39] <veryhappy> ok
[16:39] <kandinski> my oneiric desktop has lost the theme, and just changing the settings doesn't fix it: any ideas? http://imgur.com/4IUM6
[16:39] <veryhappy> whats with flash? is there any hope that they will get it working?
[16:39] <jen_> anyone know how to get a game emulator on onieric?
[16:39] <GridCube> thats ubuntu kandinski ?
[16:40] <xangua>  veryhappy 64bit adobeflash plugin is on partner repos
[16:40] <veryhappy> ok there i also have a question
[16:40] <veryhappy> how do i find / see if there is an repo for any purpose that i search?
[16:40] <kandinski> GridCube: that's Oneiric
[16:40] <glebihan> veryhappy, flash is working, just not perfectly
[16:40] <veryhappy> ok
[16:40] <kandinski> but for some reason the top panel and the windows don't look like they should, GridCube
[16:41] <wayne> Gotta say I'm starting to think Ubuntu is better then mint.
[16:41] <kandinski> GridCube: it's Oneiric
[16:41] <GridCube> kandinski, im using oneiric too, but not Ubuntu, oneiric its the name of the version of ALL *buntu flavours
[16:41] <wayne> Where can I find the best themes for ubuntu ?
[16:41] <GridCube> D:
[16:41] <GridCube> WHAT IM DOING HERE
[16:41] <JasonGriffee> i have a asus k50ij and sound come through both headphone and speakers
[16:41] <kandinski> GridCube: true, this is Ubuntu Oneiric, not Kubuntu or Xubuntu
[16:42] <GridCube> lol i forgot an X on my join channel
[16:42]  * wayne I'm looking to make a great theme for my ubuntu desktop where do I start?
[16:42] <GridCube> and thouhg i was on #Xubuntu
[16:42] <killown> after upgrade to 11.10 from 11.04 the bootloader give me a cli, how should I proceed?
[16:42] <kandinski> no kidding, GridCube ?
[16:43] <lokodomain> anyone know the location for the terminal
[16:43] <urlin2u> lokodomain, crtl-alt-t
[16:43] <wayne> ctrl+alt+t = that
[16:43] <lokodomain> yea I mean so I can access it in the directory
[16:44] <GridCube> sorry kandinski :)
[16:44] <foidle> /usr/bin/xterm
[16:44] <urlin2u> lokodomain, in the dash type in term
[16:44] <lokodomain> @foidle
[16:44] <lokodomain> respect
[16:44] <glebihan> veryhappy, from command line you can use "apt-cache search keyword" to look for a package in the repos
[16:44] <veryhappy> good
[16:44] <wayne> Anybody know anything about themes
[16:44] <veryhappy> and if its not ther?
[16:45] <ubidoobi2> hi all ... could someone have a look at this and tell me if they see anything wrong - trying to boot win7 and ubuntu on the same drive.  ubuntu installed with alternate cd ... install went good ... except when it got to installing grub .. it hung at 66% for a long time .. when i boot i see no instance of grub ... checked gparted and the win7 partitions are intact from what i can see ..........   http://pastebin.co
[16:45] <ubidoobi2> m/4E572YXr
[16:45] <veryhappy> i mean how do i get informations on where i can find a package or if i dont know the package name just a little description how can i get it?
[16:45] <ubidoobi2> http://pastebin.com/4E572YXr
[16:45] <wayne> knock knock
[16:46] <glebihan> veryhappy, apt-cache search lets you search in the packages' description, not only the name
[16:46] <JasonGriffee> i have a asus k50ij and sound comes through both headphone and speakers, how do i fix this?
[16:46] <glebihan> veryhappy, and if it's not in the repos, then the best way is probably google
[16:47] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, that link is blocked by wot web of trust and wont open put in http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:47] <veryhappy> glebihan: normally i should have found this solution :D but thank you very much
[16:47] <veryhappy> see you
[16:48] <wayne> does ubuntu 11.04 have gnome 2?
[16:48] <auronandace> wayne: yes
[16:48] <wayne> k
[16:49] <ubidoobi2> ooops ... sorry .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/729238/
[16:49] <ubidoobi2> hi all ... could someone have a look at this and tell me if they see anything wrong - trying to boot win7 and ubuntu on the same drive.  ubuntu installed with alternate cd ... install went good ... except when it got to installing grub .. it hung at 66% for a long time .. when i boot i see no instance of grub ... checked gparted and the win7 partitions are intact from what i can see ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/7292
[16:49] <ubidoobi2> 38/
[16:49] <ubidoobi2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/729238/
[16:50] <GridCube> how do i configure a global proxy for apt-get?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> ubidoobi2, sudo update-grub && sudo os-prober
[16:50] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, if you are getting to ubuntu run sudo update-grub in the terminal and look if W7 is picked up.
[16:51] <JasonGriffee> i have a asus k50ij and sound comes through both headphone and speakers, how do i fix this?
[16:52] <llutz> GridCube: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://yourproxy:port"     into /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10proxy
[16:52] <ubidoobi2> okay .. typed in sudo update-grub ... seems to hang ... but i'll leave it for a while ..
[16:52] <GridCube> llutz, thanks
[16:53] <[snake]> can I make the kde pager only display windows on that perticular desktop... If I have a windows open on desktop 1, it shows in my taskbar on every other desktop, and defeats the purpose...
[16:53] <Sidewinder1> Hey! BluesKaj !
[16:54] <ubidoobi2> no output from sudo os-prober
[16:54] <kandinski> can anybody please help me recover the standard ubuntu unity look? thanks! This is what my desktop looks like right now:  http://imgur.com/4IUM6
[16:54] <okee> Would someone mind walking me through the hard disk geometry part of the setup?  I am having a bit of difficulty.  I did increase the size of the partition in Windows, but now wondering if this will do any good?  And whether or not I need to reintall everything and install ubuntu first, before installing Win 7?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> ubidoobi2, that's because grub seems to have aproblem
[16:55] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1
[16:55] <foidle> ubidoobi2:  Take a look at this. You might be able to fix grub from the cd:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853600
[16:55] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, should finish immediatly also on the irc address the person your talking to with a few letters of their nic hit tab to complete, then we know you are calling to a specific person. :D   So also it may be that the W7 partitions need a chkdsk, as of now thw boot flag is correctly on sda1 if you need to run a chkdsk with the W7 repair or instal disc the boot flag needs to be on that specific partition.
[16:55] <okee> I am doing dual boot.
[16:56] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u : ... i will check gpart and make sure the boot flag is pointing to win7 ...
[16:56] <lbw> hello
[16:56] <JasonGriffee> i have a asus k50ij and sound comes through both headphone and speakers, how do i fix this?
[16:56] <lbw> do i need graphic driver for core i3 integrated graphic accelerator ?
[16:56] <Sidewinder1> BluesKaj, Nice to see a familiar face, once in a while. :-)
[16:57] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, it is on the sda1 that is correct I suspect you need a chkdsk look in gparted for any errors on the two NTFS partitions
[16:57] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u : boot flag points to ntfs    system reserved    partition
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder1, :)
[16:58] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u : .. so just do a check and repair on each win part?
[16:58] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, that is where the boot files are if you look at the bootscript, you can move the flag to sda2 and install the /bootmgr /Boot/BCD to sda2 a auto repiar will probably not due thios I have the commands if you like.
[16:59] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u : ... sure that would be appreciated .. thanks
[17:01] <kronoman> hello
[17:01] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, should be booting W7, the update-grub should be picking up the sda1 it is a boot partition. So before we bypass the regular W7 boot partition look at those two NTFS in gparted right click each partition then info for any errors info.
[17:02] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, to load those boot files to the sda2 NTFS you need a W7 repair or install disc as well.
[17:03] <zkxs> My audio becomes garbled when multiple applications output sound.
[17:03] <foidle> JasonGriffee, http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-172302-sound-coming-from-both-speakers-and-headphone
[17:05] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u: i see no errors on either disk ...
[17:05] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u: i have the win7 install disk ...
[17:06] <LemonAid> Hello. This isn`t really Ubuntu related so feel free to redirect me if i`m in the wrong place. I`ve searched (not well enough it seems), but i can`t find a way to disable the notification of logins/logouts in Xchat. Is there a way ?
[17:06] <kandinski> argh
[17:06] <wayne> Hey guys I'm looking for a few docks to run on my desktop that show cpu and ram plus a clock and maybe a dock to add shortcuts to
[17:06] <llutz> LemonAid: rightclick on channel-tab, settings
[17:07] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, so before we tr6y to bypass lets make sure that the long install time for grub originally isn't part of the problem can you describe that, was it during the actual ubuntu install and how did you determine it was hanging?
[17:07] <LemonAid> llutz: got it, thank you !
[17:08] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, I hate to bypass and be in the same place basically when grub can be purged and reinstalled easily fro the live running Ubuntu.
[17:09] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u : I used the alternate CD to install ... Desktop CD would not pick up the HDD at all no matter what I tried  .. the install was going great .. said it was installing grub ... then it paused around 66% for a long time ... but finally got moving ... booted the computer after the install .. booted into ubuntu ... with no sign of grub during boot.
[17:10] <meadhikari> I found this print pdf option when i right click a webpage in browser, how would i do it from the command line??
[17:10] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u: as we speak ... this is still the first boot for this setup.
[17:10] <petedunham> Any idea about mount problem of Olympus Tough 3000 on Ubuntu 11.10
[17:10] <api984> did anyone have a problem like : "turned off pc. not bootable again. grub rescue, gparted shows unknown filesystem" - my setup mdraid+lvm?
[17:10] <petedunham> It doesn't automount, it even does not attach it to a proper device in dev directory.
[17:10] <petedunham> ?
[17:11] <llutz> meadhikari: install cups-pdf, use "lpr -p <your-pdf-printername> file"
[17:11] <petedunham> I can see it in lsusb output and syslog as well as I unplug / plug.
[17:11] <||arifaX> ubidoobi2: you should check the drive eg. with SpinRite or similar software. Mine drove me nuts but after Spinrite Level 4 over night it worked. Could be the hard drive maybe!
[17:11] <meadhikari> llutz, i means something like html to pdf
[17:12] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, due you have W7 encrypted as well?
[17:12] <ubidoobi2> arifax : ... thanks .. however I tried on a second new drive with the same results /w the desktop live cd .. that ruled out the hdd
[17:12] <r3b00tx> Hi, i installed xubuntu now. It was showing additional proprietary drivers for ati card in notification. there are two items, one is ati proprietary fglrx driver and another is ati proprietary fglrx driver with post release updates. which one should i install? believe the second one
[17:12] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u: win7 is not encrypted to my knowledge unless it did so on it's own
[17:12] <llutz> meadhikari: elinks -dump http://bla.foo | lpr -p PDF-Printer
[17:14] <anewguest> hi, there is an issue i am facing , i am not able to use webcam, i have ubuntu 11.10 installed on my pc , which software / method should i use
[17:14] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u: i should also mention the partions the Alternate cd made as well ... briefly : extended 195gb    ext4 190.75   unknown (suppose to be swap) 4.75 gb
[17:14] <||arifaX> ubidoobi2: were the drives in a raidset before? - sometimes that makes problems, too
[17:14] <dssdsd> d
[17:14] <dssdsd> d
[17:14] <petedunham> It says:
[17:14] <petedunham> new high speed USB device number 6 using ehci_hcd
[17:14] <petedunham> checking bus 1, device 6: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-8"
[17:15] <petedunham> bus: 1, device: 6 was not an MTP device
[17:15] <ubidoobi2> arifax : the original drive that came with the computer was set as RAID 1 ... both drives are now set on IDE
[17:15] <petedunham> That is it.
[17:15] <petedunham> lsusb output is:
[17:15] <petedunham> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 07b4:0125 Olympus Optical Co., Ltd
[17:15] <_Mark321_> I need to edit my blacklist.conf from a bash prompt but when I save the changes using NANO it says "Error writing...read-only file system"  How do I get around this?
[17:15] <anewguest> hi, there is an issue i am facing , i am not able to use webcam, i have ubuntu 11.10 installed on my pc , which software / method should i use
[17:16] <petedunham> Does anybody know about this problem? Did anybody experience it before? Ubuntu 11.10, XUbuntu Desktop, Kernel 3.
[17:16] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, kind of a strange situation I think if we bypass the boot partition we will be in the same place but loading the W7 bootloader back to the mbr is easy with the W7 disc, and reloading grub to the mbr is easy as well I would reload the W7u bootloader boot the disc go to the repair terminal and run bootrec.exe /fixboot  this should have W7 booting correctly by itself again, this wil confirm that it is still working. If you resized the W7 pa
[17:16] <urlin2u> rtitions with the ubuntu install you will get a auto chkdsk as well the chkdskz may all that ios needed, easier run knowing if W7 boots.
[17:16] <api984> did anyone have a problem like : "turned off pc. not bootable again. grub rescue, gparted shows unknown filesystem" - my setup mdraid+lvm?
[17:16] <foidle> _Mark321_, did you open the .conf with sudo?
[17:16] <_Mark321_> I cannot boot so I am not sure I have been unable to sudo anything.
[17:16] <_Mark321_> I am at a bash prompt
[17:16] <zkxs> About my sound issue, one application can play sound fine, but any two applications end up with distorted sound.  The only thing I have done to the default setup in 10.04 is installed linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic, and that was a while back.
[17:17] <mdgeorge> hello
[17:18] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u okay i'll go fix the win7 problem first .. and make sure that win7 will boot properly.
[17:18] <_Mark321_> foidle, can I just boot into a live CD edit the blacklist.conf on my hard drive and then reboot?
[17:18] <mdgeorge> wine keeps clobbering my file associations, so that when I double click on an image it opens in IE (yuck!)
[17:18] <foidle> _Mark321_, you can't enter "sudo nano blacklist.conf"?  If you can't boot, where is this shell?
[17:18] <mdgeorge> how can I fi this?
[17:18] <foidle> _Mark321_, yes that'll work.
[17:18] <_Mark321_> foidle, I think it is just a virtual shell, when the boot hangs I hit ctrl+alt+F1
[17:19] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, that is what I would do it should be booting the script does not really show any errors other then W7 is not in the os-prober which is the app that should find W7
[17:19] <videoslow> Help: ubuntu 11.10 video fullscreen (flash) choppy laggy slow after a while. I search for solution yet find none. I have intel integrated graphic.
[17:19] <_Mark321_> foidle, great.  I will give that a shot now.
[17:20] <ubidoobi2> urlin2u : okay going to give it a whirl  - i'm now ubidoobi3 ... should things go sour lol
[17:21] <zkxs> I just noticed that the issue is only on my account.
[17:21] <videoslow> Help: ubuntu 11.10 video fullscreen (flash) choppy laggy slow after a while. I search for solution yet find none. I have intel integrated graphic.
[17:21] <urlin2u> ubidoobi2, cool the only other thing is that you were not able to install from the live cd becasue the HD didn't show or something I wonder if the partition table for the W7 isn't messed up or as suggested the HD has some problems hard to say I'mj ust guessing.
[17:21] <skd_maut> can anyone give me room for hacking....
[17:22] <urlin2u> skd_maut, you want to be pwnd?
[17:22] <skd_maut> no
[17:22] <skd_maut> i am new to IRC
[17:22] <urlin2u> skd_maut, I would not go there then it is highly likely the rumor is.
[17:22] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: ...desktop live cd didn' pick up the drive at all .. alternate did pick it up and was the same on two different hdds
[17:22] <skd_maut> #hacker
[17:23] <skd_maut> #hacker.org
[17:23] <petedunham> Aha. Fixed it.
[17:23] <skd_maut> #hacker requires invitation i dont have
[17:23] <urlin2u> skd_maut, /join #ircchannel
[17:23] <okee> How big should the swap file be for Ubuntu?
[17:23] <reisio> okee: how much RAM do you have?
[17:23] <videoslow> swap should be twice the ram
[17:23] <reisio> no it should not
[17:23] <videoslow> not should be but good
[17:23] <petedunham> Installed gphoto2 and did gphoto --summary, it opened camera as a folder, poping up :)
[17:23] <reisio> that is an extremely antiquated rule of thumb
[17:23] <petedunham> Weird but anyway.
[17:23] <skd_maut> thank you urlin2
[17:24] <Xanthia> Hi, I have a driver issue with a Video Card - EVGA GeForce 9500 GT. Can anyone help?
[17:24] <Rewt`> uds was good
[17:24] <videoslow> Help: ubuntu 11.10 video fullscreen (flash) choppy laggy slow after a while. I search for solution yet find none. I have intel integrated graphic.
[17:24] <reisio> Xanthia: what's the issue
[17:24] <videoslow> xanthia, what is the issue
[17:24] <Rewt`> party last night was quite good
[17:24] <okee> I have 8gb.
[17:24] <reisio> okee: laptop?
[17:24] <videoslow> okee: just make itgb swap. if you have gb ram.
[17:24] <videoslow> 4gb swap for 4gb ram.
[17:25] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, you might check on line for any problems in general with those HD's and linux/ubuntu once in a while there are ones that are not friendly, although Ubuntu is running, so it is a bit strange.
[17:25] <Loshki> !swap
[17:25] <Xanthia> I can't get it to boot up
[17:25] <okee> ok.  Looks like I am ok
[17:25] <reisio> okee: 8GB is a decent idea, for hibernation it'll be useful, and invariably also for other things
[17:25] <urlin2u> Xanthia, did you add a driver and now it wont boot can you give details?
[17:25] <reisio> not more than 8, though :p
[17:26] <predateur_> hello from abidjan
[17:26] <reisio> helllo
[17:26] <zkxs> Is there a way of reseting the audio settings for a single user?
[17:26] <okee> I think I set the hard drive geometry up with 1gb of swap, and 300gb for the OS.
[17:27] <okee> I probably would have been better off with a 6gb swap, but Win 7 was already installed, and I would have to use a disk partitioner.
[17:27] <okee> Win 7 internal partitioner couldn't do more than what I have now.
[17:28] <Xanthia> 1614?
[17:29] <ubuntunovice> hey everyone
[17:29] <okee> I lost my mouse in ubuntu.
[17:29] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: i will check ... but it seems i have checked before and there are no issues ... although .. these things happen i'm sure ... i hooked a second monitor up as well .. my 42 inch doesn't display all the boot process .. but with the smaller one it does .. and everything looks good .. except the boot is a bit slow and i don't see any bootloader at all
[17:29] <okee> I am on a laptop.
[17:29] <Xanthia> Dam you Nividia!
[17:30] <ubuntunovice> http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-1-rc2-oneiric-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/
[17:30] <videoslow> Help: ubuntu 11.10 video fullscreen (flash) choppy laggy slow after a while. I search for solution yet find none. I have intel integrated graphic.
[17:30] <ubuntunovice> this works for natty too
[17:30] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, with the W7 not in grub as of now you would have to tap the left shift at powering on to see it ubuntu thinks it is the only OS the grub menu is not shown in that circumstance.
[17:30] <ubuntunovice> im using  it right now :D
[17:31] <okee> How do you do a force logout in Ubuntu?  I lost my mouse.
[17:31] <okee> In windows it is Ctrl Alt Del.
[17:31] <Xanthia> Does anyone know how to troubleshoot a boot-up issue?
[17:31] <Xanthia> Error log?
[17:31] <somsip> quit
[17:31] <ubuntunovice> try this okee
[17:31] <ubuntunovice>  pkill -KILL -u UserID
[17:31] <Persona24> How can I connect to a wireless network in the terminal?
[17:31] <reisio> okee: CTRL+ALT+PrtScrn+k
[17:31] <dokg> how do I move all the files from one folder to another folder ?
[17:32] <ubuntunovice> replacing userid with your username
[17:32] <urlin2u> Xanthia, 3 people have answered you try answering them.
[17:32] <videoslow> dokg: press alt+a
[17:32] <okee> I think my system is locked up. Cursor in the left menu is stuck on a box called 178.  Nothing moves.
[17:32] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : we have a grub ... took 3 boots but its there now ... strange because the win7 cd is in the drive ... no instance of windows 7 in grub
[17:32] <videoslow> dokg: then cut and paste to your new folder
[17:32] <wayne> hello I need help with docky, its got a big black square around it blocking too much stuff.
[17:32] <okee> Alt
[17:32] <wayne> can I get rid of this blackness
[17:32] <okee> Alt A isn't doint it.
[17:33] <stercor> How can I get the color chooser (The circle-and-triangle) as a separate program?
[17:33] <videoslow> okee: go to top menu and "select all"
[17:33] <RTRE> :'(
[17:33] <okee> cant select anything.  I am locked up.
[17:33] <wayne> I can't seem to make this go away
[17:33] <jasef> -.- my Ubuntu keeps dropping random text into my text fields, text that I've never copied, and sometimes that I've never typed either... like off of webpages....
[17:34] <videoslow> okee: in your file manager, move your mouse over the top bar. Click on "edit" and choose "select all".
[17:34] <zkxs> okee is the one with the missing mouse and dokg is the one who is trying to select everything.  The advice is getting mixed up.
[17:34] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, so you see the grub menu now on powering on? I would reload the w7u bootloader and make sure it runs and do a checkdsk on the C partiton sda2 if one does not automatically run just to make sure it is in good shape.
[17:34] <okee> don't have a mouse.  However the logout feature came back.  I did logout, but the mouse is still gone
[17:35] <wayne> Can I please get help
[17:35] <reisio> wayne: yup
[17:35] <videoslow> wayne: what do you neeD?
[17:35] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : okay .. i'll do that now then ...
[17:35] <reisio> okee: is it plugged in?
[17:35] <wayne> Docky has screwed my computer up
[17:35] <reisio> okee: is it USB or PS/2?
[17:35] <jasef> Lol, figures noone would know how to fix my problem :P it's a tough one.
[17:35] <wayne> theres a big black box around docky that will not go away
[17:35] <okee> The mouse came back.  The amazing disappearing Ubuntu mouse.
[17:35] <wayne> and now nothing is loading
[17:35] <reisio> jasef: what problem
[17:35] <okee> I am dual booting.  Ubuntu is installed.
[17:36] <reisio> okee: none of those answer my questions
[17:36] <okee> mouse is back.
[17:36] <reisio> nobody cares
[17:36] <okee> What was your question?
[17:36] <videoslow> okee: what is your next question?
[17:36] <wayne> wow
[17:36] <reisio> it was up there ^
[17:36] <wayne> thanks alot
[17:36] <ubuntunovice> okee are you on oneiric ocelot or natty ? or maverick?
[17:36] <okee> Ubuntunovice>  I don't know what those things are.....
[17:36] <videoslow> i am online irc, everything is the same color, hard to keep track.
[17:37] <okee> where do you find the command line on here?
[17:37] <ubuntunovice> okee: what version are you on?
[17:37] <okee> I think it is 11.10
[17:37] <reisio> videoslow: up at the top left there's an icon you can click with options for having colors-per-nick
[17:37] <jasef> reisio, :P my Ubuntu is dropping random text into whatever box I'm typing in - from web pages, or from things I've seen in other textareas, or things I've typed earlier. I've checked, it's not from my clipboard
[17:37] <jen_> how do I play rom games on here?
[17:37] <lalakis_> can someone help me about how to open ports in ubuntu ??
[17:37] <videoslow> reisio, ctcp version?
[17:37] <reisio> jen_: what rom games?
[17:37] <reisio> videoslow: it told me what IRC client you're using
[17:37] <llutz> lalakis_: start a listening service
[17:38] <ubuntunovice> @jen ILLEGAL *SIREN NOISES*
[17:38] <reisio> jasef: try another keyboard?
[17:38] <videoslow> lalakis: you should search it online. good tutrials online
[17:38] <lalakis_> llutz what do you mean start listening service?
[17:38] <jen_> Reisio like super smash bros brawl
[17:38] <lalakis_> in not very expert
[17:38] <ubuntunovice> LIKE ILLEGAL @JEN
[17:38] <jasef> reisio, it's not always stuff I've typed. It's also stuff that I've seen in webpages or whatever
[17:38] <reisio> jen_: what console was that for?
[17:38] <videoslow> lalakis, maybe you can watch a video? hard to say things on the irc.
[17:38] <llutz> lalakis_: theres no "firewall" by default filtering. so if you need to access any port, you have to start a service listening on it
[17:38] <jasef> reisio, also, this is a laptop... I can't carry a second keyboard around with me.
[17:39] <videoslow> i gtg
[17:39] <reisio> jasef: mmm
[17:39] <jen_> reisio, how about 64
[17:39] <llutz> !pm | lalakis_
[17:39] <reisio> jasef: does a reboot fix it?
[17:39] <zkxs> lalakis_, You might want to look into port forwarding.
[17:39] <reisio> jen_: ... n64?
[17:39] <ubuntunovice> @jen http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#roms
[17:39] <dougl> good day ladies and gents :)
[17:39] <jasef> reisio, no, it's been a persistent problem for quite a while, had it in 11.04, 11.10, and now 12.04.
[17:39] <tawtaw> hello, how can i get this: www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/alsa-user/msg10372.html    << to the attention of the people in charge of the ubuntu packaging of the linux kernel?
[17:40] <reisio> jasef: neat
[17:40] <jen_> reisio, yeah
[17:40] <reisio> jasef: does it have a touch screen?
[17:40] <nimbiotics> I'm connected to a remote PC via telnet but when I try to run startx, I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.". How can I fix this?
[17:40] <llutz> lalakis_: maybe you should explain what you really want to do
[17:40] <lalakis_> i have looked in google but i didnt manage to open ports. i have only managed to port forwar ports in the router
[17:40] <tawtaw> nimbiotics: telnet? really?
[17:40] <jasef> reisio, no, I wish it did :(
[17:40] <ubuntunovice> U.S. copyright laws state that copyrights owned by corporations are valid for 75 years from the date of first publication. Because video games have been around for less than three decades, the copyrights of all video games will not expire for many decades to come.
[17:41] <llutz> lalakis_: "open port" for what?
[17:41] <reisio> jen_: I think mupen might be the only Linuxy one
[17:42] <jen_> reisio,  whats that then?
[17:42] <lalakis_> ok guys listen. I have enabled the wakeonlan feature in my BIOS and inside ubuntu as well. So now i only want to open port UDP 9 (this is by default the port were packets are sent) in order to be able to send packets from another computer that will wake up my computer... what should I do ??
[17:42] <reisio> jen_: ... an n64 emulator
[17:42] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: ...sorry but what was that cmd that you said to type to checkdsk earlier?
[17:42] <okee> Can someone tell me how to get into the command line?
[17:42] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, bootrec.exe /fixboot
[17:42] <jen_> reisio, oh i have one I just dont know how to get a rom
[17:42] <lbw> hello
[17:42] <foidle> lalakis_, you don't need to open a port for wol.
[17:42] <llutz> lalakis_: theres nothing to open unless you did install any filtering rules (iptables)
[17:42] <reisio> jen_: same way you get anything: seek it out
[17:42] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, that is the boot reload you want the chkdsk command?
[17:43] <reisio> okee: ctrl+alt+t
[17:43] <kapo> hi
[17:43] <lbw> what is the command to show desktop and load unity etc ...
[17:43] <lalakis_> iptables are installed by default in ubuntu
[17:43] <okee> Thanks
[17:43] <jen_> reisio ahh okay will look for one x)
[17:43] <foidle> lalakis_, you are talking about waking from poweroff?  not sleep?
[17:43] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: said completed seccessfully .... /w bootrec.exe /fixboot
[17:43] <ubuntunovice> okee:  click on applications, acessories, terminal
[17:43] <llutz> lalakis_: without filter-rules
[17:43] <lbw> my box is only showing background wallpaper and nothing elese
[17:43] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : sure ... checkdsk cmd
[17:43] <kapo> hellooooooooooo!!!
[17:43] <lalakis_> about waking from sleep mode.. i never have my PC powered off
[17:43] <kapo> O.o
[17:44] <okee> How do you change your user name in Ubuntu?
[17:44] <kapo> ??
[17:44] <foidle> lalakis_, then you can configure the open port w/ ufw.
[17:44] <lbw> kapo: how to see my desktop
[17:44] <kapo> i guess you can't dio that
[17:44] <lbw> kapo: i see login screen and when i log in i only see desktop background wall paper, all controls are gone
[17:44] <kapo> you can't see your desktop??
[17:44] <lalakis_> i dont know about filter rules in iptables. the only fact is that i go in the network tool-> port scanner and returns in result that port 80, and two other ports are open
[17:44] <kapo> ok
[17:45] <ubuntunovice> okee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821685
[17:45] <kapo> when you login
[17:45] <lbw> kapo: yes
[17:45] <zkxs> I am having a sound issue, but only on one account:  One application can play sound fine, but any two applications end up with distorted sound.
[17:45] <llutz> lalakis_: you don't understand what "open Ports" are, how it works
[17:45] <kapo> there are a simbol right your name
[17:45] <kapo> click there and select ubuntu 2d or ubuntu
[17:45] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, the chkdsk if run from the repair would need the boot flag on the partition you want checked in the windows live environment it is the same command both will ask if you want it run at restart, the repair though I reiterate the boot flag on the partition though  chkdsk /f/r   is the command
[17:45] <lbw> kapo: aaah ok wait
[17:45] <lalakis_> open port means that ports can be accesed from other compouters in internet, right ?
[17:45] <llutz> lalakis_: WoL only works if your machine is down, so there are not filters active in that state
[17:46] <kapo> im form argentina!!
[17:46] <lbw> kapo: but how do i get out, i only see my mouse cursor
[17:46] <kapo> mmm
[17:46] <jasef> zkxs, type in a terminal on the affected user, 'rm -rf ~/.pulse'
[17:46] <lbw> kapo: will restart x work ?
[17:46] <llutz> lalakis_: WoL is a special case
[17:46] <kapo> shutdown the pc
[17:46] <lbw> kapo: :) sweet
[17:46] <lalakis_> and what should i do now ?
[17:46] <foidle> lalakis_,  if you need to open udp 9, try "sudo ufw allow 9/udp"
[17:46] <kapo> can you shutdown??
[17:46] <llutz> foidle: nonsense
[17:47] <foidle> llutz, what is?
[17:47] <lalakis_> Skipping adding existing rule
[17:47] <kapo> wow!!
[17:47] <llutz> foidle: how should an iptables rule affect a machine powered down?
[17:48] <foidle> llutz, he said that he never powered it down. so that has nothing to do with it, right?
[17:48] <llutz> foidle: WoL works without any active OS, so setting up iptables-rules is nonsense
[17:48] <arunkumar413> hi, i using 11.04.  with gnome shell. please help me how to install themes
[17:48] <lalakis_> i dont have pc power off. only in sleep mode
[17:48] <lbw> kapo: you are soooooooooooo sooooooooooooo sooooooooooooooooooooooo sweet
[17:48] <ubuntunovice> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1101418&Sku=B69-0419  would this work with ubuntu>
[17:48] <lbw> kapo: it worked
[17:48] <foidle> llutz, I was just telling him how to open a port...
[17:48] <ubuntunovice> ?
[17:49] <kapo> ;)
[17:49] <zkxs> jasef: Thanks, I did that.  Let me see if it worked... Should I log out then back in?
[17:49] <lalakis_> Skfoidle it give message sipping adding existing rule
[17:49] <llutz> lalakis_: make sure you enabled "wol g" using ethtool on your machine and that your iface is brought down correctly before shutting down
[17:49] <jasef> zkxs, :P I think it'd be a good idea
[17:49] <lalakis_> what is iface?
[17:49] <lbw> kapo: how to get into ubuntu 3d ?
[17:50] <kapo> emmm
[17:50] <llutz> lalakis_: your networkinterface/-card
[17:50] <lalakis_> i have checked and wol is g.
[17:50] <lbw> kapo: ubuntu-2d is better than ubuntu ?
[17:50] <Maccer> (x-msg)  Hrm, why won't any linux distros or drivers detect my wired ethernet connection?  Does anyone else use *nix on an H55?
[17:50] <reisio> Maccer: h55?
[17:50] <Maccer> Intel h55
[17:50] <kapo> sorry i don't speak english
[17:50] <kapo> jaja
[17:50] <lalakis_> wol is always g. i followed a guide from ggoogle how to enable wol in g
[17:50] <kapo> im from argentina
[17:50] <lbw> kapo: me amore
[17:50] <llutz> lalakis_: add a short script to /etc/network/if-down.d/wol: containing "/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol g"
[17:50] <reisio> Maccer: is that your network device?
[17:50] <lbw> kapo: tekiero moucho
[17:51] <kapo> jaja
[17:51] <kapo> i'm a men
[17:51] <zkxs> jasef: without logout, it seems to be working.  Thanks!
[17:51] <lbw> kapo: amego i know some french
[17:51] <lalakis_> i did that also.. wol is always g from startup
[17:51] <kapo> jaja
[17:51] <Maccer> reisio: That's my motherboard.
[17:51] <kapo> es amigo!!
[17:51] <lalakis_> i added script
[17:51] <kapo> amigo
[17:51] <FloodBot1> kapo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <lbw> kapo: oops i mean espaniol
[17:51] <jasef> zkxs, awesome :) glad it helped
[17:51] <reisio> Maccer: what's the network device?
[17:51] <zkxs> i'll have to remember that one
[17:51] <llutz> lalakis_: it has to be active when shutting DOWN not starting up
[17:51] <ubuntunovice> @floodbot  oh sorry
[17:51] <nimbiotics> Lokesh, tawtaw: I'm using TELNET cause I need to connect to a remote PC, starting my own session w/o interrupting the current user. Is there another way to do it?
[17:51] <kapo> jaja
[17:51] <lbw> kapo: bienvenido
[17:51] <kapo> i'm not a girl
[17:51] <kapo> thx
[17:51] <kapo> ok?
[17:51] <kapo> mm
[17:52] <lalakis_> and how should i add script? im not an expert
[17:52] <reisio> Maccer: lspci | grep -i net
[17:52] <kapo> ubuntu 2d work faster than 3d
[17:52] <pnorman> Maccer: I can't find any reference of problems with the network, so I'd expect it to work out of the box
[17:52] <llutz> lalakis_: sudo nano /etc/network/if-down.d/wol    add 2 lines: "#!/bin/sh"  and "/sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol g"
[17:52] <kapo> but it depends of you PC right??
[17:52] <ubuntunovice> nimbiotics: use team viewer
[17:52] <lalakis_> wait
[17:52] <lbw> kapo: i upgraded one ppa for latest intel drivers
[17:53] <jasef> nimbiotics, ssh >.>
[17:53] <kapo> ahh
[17:53] <llutz> lalakis_: ctrl-x to save/exit, then " sudo chmod +x etc/network/if-down.d/wol  "
[17:53] <kapo> i don't understend :s
[17:53] <pnorman> Maccer: That being said, isn't the network normally done by a different chipset then the northbridge/southbridge, and aren't you more likely to have a Realtek or similar controller?
[17:53] <kapo> where you come from?
[17:53] <lbw> kapo: tekiero moucho
[17:53] <lbw> kapo: gracia
[17:53] <kapo> O.o
[17:53] <ubuntunovice> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb
[17:53] <kapo> gracias
[17:53] <lbw> kapo: ciao
[17:53] <okee> What version is Ubuntu up to?
[17:53] <kapo> chau!
[17:53] <ubuntunovice> 11.10
[17:54] <kapo> ciao is in italy
[17:54] <okee> ok.
[17:54] <tawtaw> nimbiotics: ssh?
[17:54] <cousteau> how does recovery mode work? I tried it a while ago and it gave me a root terminal, but the disk was mounted as read only so there was nothing I could do
[17:54] <okee> Do you know how I may access the update feature in Ubuntu?
[17:54] <kapo> in actualizations i guess
[17:54] <tawtaw> nimbiotics: you should never use telnet nowadays, its very insecure
[17:54] <reisio> !update
[17:54] <ubuntunovice> it works better if you do a clean install
[17:54] <||arifaX> cousteau: you have to remount it writeable
[17:54] <cousteau> okee, what version do you have?
[17:54] <pnorman> tawtaw: I've used telnet to IRC. :)
[17:54] <kapo> 11.10
[17:55] <cousteau> ||arifaX, umount and mount?
[17:55] <tawtaw> pnorman: which year?
[17:55] <pnorman> two years ago
[17:55] <nimbiotics> tawtaw:  roger that.
[17:55] <kapo> i need food!!!!!!!
[17:55] <cousteau> mount -o rw, I ghess?
[17:55] <cousteau> guess
[17:55] <tawtaw> nimbiotics: basically everything you do is sent clear text, ssh enrypts it, plus has very nifty features
[17:55] <kapo> i don't speak english
[17:55] <pnorman> tawtaw: The real pain is that you have to respond to the PINGs from the server manually or you get disconnected.
[17:55] <kapo> i'm form argentina
[17:55] <ubuntunovice> http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[17:55] <tawtaw> pnorman: lol
[17:56] <ubuntunovice> from not form
[17:56] <||arifaX> cousteau: I think     mount -n -o remount,rw /               should do the job
[17:56] <lalakis_> llutz i did what you said.. and now ?
[17:56] <lalakis_> what should i do
[17:56] <ubuntunovice> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[17:56] <llutz> lalakis_: shut down and test WoL
[17:56] <cousteau> ||arifaX, ok (no need to umount first then?)
[17:56] <kapo> jaja
[17:56] <kapo> haha
[17:56] <okee> cousteau> I have Version 11.10
[17:56] <lalakis_> shut down or put is sleep mode
[17:56] <||arifaX> cousteau: no just remount
[17:56] <kapo> me2
[17:56] <ghabit> !libreoffice
[17:56] <ubuntunovice> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[17:57] <pnorman> My last *normal* use of telnet was to connect to my local library catalog. Anyways, off to breakfast
[17:57] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: okay ... did what you said to do ... now i need to add win7 to the grub menu ... how do i accomplish this?
[17:57] <lalakis_> llutz shut down or put is sleep mode?
[17:57] <cousteau> speaking of libreoffice... the ppa is outdated, at least for maverick
[17:57] <llutz> lalakis_: whatever, i always shut my machines down and WoL works with all 7 since years here
[17:58] <lalakis_> ok wait ill test it and i come here again
[17:58] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, reloading the w7 bootloader is to see if it works and to run a chkdsk, you would only add W7 to the Grub if you had grub booting as of now do you?
[17:58] <Fodi69> hello, how can I set, that a single mouse click is enough in nautilus (or on the desktop) to open something?
[17:58] <llutz> lalakis_: if machine is down, the LED on networkcard has to be ON
[17:58] <ubuntunovice> http://bit.ly/oqby1a
[17:58] <lasall-42> how to chroot persistent installation?
[17:58] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : grub is loading fine ... just no win7 option
[17:59] <lalakis_> it is i checked it before
[17:59] <Fodi69> hello, I want to open files with a single left click in nautilus and on my desktop, how is it possible?
[17:59] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, did you reload the W7 bootloader with the command I gave you grub should be nowhere to be found now without reloading it to the mbr.
[17:59] <ubuntunovice> bitlee
[17:59] <lauratika> how do i move applets in panel on unity 3d 11.10?
[18:00] <cowlicks> so, would it be possible to have my twitter say something like 'posted via ubuntu linux'
[18:00] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : i put in the commands you gave ... rebooted .. it booted to grub
[18:00] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: perhaps i put the commands in wrong ... ughh
[18:00] <Fodi69> hello, I want to open files with a single left click in nautilus and on my desktop, how is it possible?
[18:00] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, you ran bootrec.exe /fix boot from a booted W7 disc?
[18:01] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, that should make grub disappear.
[18:01] <cousteau> isn't there a SysRq combination that changes init mode to 1?
[18:01] <grkblood> anyone using lxbdplayer here?
[18:01] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: will do it again ... but said it was successful when i typed it in ..
[18:02] <shadows090> is anybody familiar with python here? I'm trying to use the storm orm and it says that the module isn't available. It is in the path directory though...Does anyone think that they could help?
[18:02] <ubuntunovice> cowlicks: no thats determined by what your posting from for example: via gwibber
[18:02] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: i used the recovery cd to get to the dos prompt
[18:02] <urlin2u> ubuntulog, you're hittin R after the language choice and going to the repair terminal on The W7 disc is this correct?
[18:02] <cousteau> cool, you can get a dos prompt on linux?
[18:02] <||arifaX> how can I get the install date of my system?
[18:02] <cousteau> without having wine installed?
[18:03] <GraemeLion> cousteau: Dosbox can do DOS
[18:03] <urlin2u> cousteau, read carefully
[18:04] <cousteau> urlin2u, ...oh, ok, you're talking about a Windows recovery CD...
[18:04] <urlin2u> ||arifaX, install ifo ...details please.
[18:04]  * cousteau was annoyed thinking tty was a "DOS prompt"
[18:05] <urlin2u> ||arifaX,  rtead that wrong install date I saw data.
[18:05] <Niya> Is there any chance that Ubuntu would add support for html formatting to Empathy/Telepathy?
[18:05] <lauratika> yellow?
[18:05] <NixGeek> Could anyone help me:  I have an ubunut server WITHOUT a sound card that I want to route output from VLC to Teamspeak so I can have a music "Bot" In our Music channel.  Any idea how I could do this?
[18:05] <urlin2u> cousteau, yep. :D
[18:05] <GraemeLion> Niya: I truly hope not, but there always is a chance :)
[18:05] <Niya> GraemeLion: Why not?
[18:06] <GraemeLion> Niya: Opens up a whole new annoying set of issues :)
[18:06] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : something i noticed is the boot flag for win7 is pointing to the reserved drive d: ... is this normal do you know?
[18:07] <arunkumar413> hi, installed gnome tweak tool. Now please help me to install themes
[18:08] <Niya> GraemeLion: It's like, right now I feel as though I have the choice of Empathy, which is really nicely integrated, or Pidgin, which allows me to format my chat messages. There's been a feature request in Telepathy for adding this support since 4/2008, but they don't seem interested in it, and I don't feel confident enough to be able to do it myself.
[18:08] <rodmontgt> Hw
[18:08] <lauratika> is there a way to edit, modify or change icons, colors in unity panel
[18:08] <AlphaComputing> has anyone got experience with cherokee?
[18:09] <Niya> GraemeLion: So I'm sort of looking for some way to see if there are other people who are actually interested in it, somehow.
[18:09] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, that is the boot partition it has the boot files per the bootscipt you posted yes the flag is correct to be read for booting W7. If you wanted to run the actual chkdsk on the sda2 C partion from that repair disc you would put the boot flag on the sda2 partirtion and run chkdsk /f/r if on the live W7 system the flag is not specific for getting the chkdksk on C as you would be initiating it form a live ri=unning W7.
[18:09] <snoeman> Where is the hard drive usage analyzer on ubuntu 11.10
[18:09] <GraemeLion> Niya: Yeah, I can see the frustration there.   I'd go with pidgin in your case.    I'm not honestly interested in it, but I think you should reg a launchpad account and put in a feature request.. or sign on to it as "affecting me"
[18:09] <fooishbar> <3
[18:09] <GraemeLion> Niya, This distribution is made better by people doing that :D
[18:10] <Niya> GraemeLion: Okay. Thank you =D
[18:10] <reisio> snoeman: baobab
[18:10] <nimbiotics> tawtaw:  THX again, I'm installing team viewer, but it does not seem 2 b what I want either
[18:10] <reisio> nimbiotics: what do you want?
[18:11] <tawtaw> nimbiotics: ssh
[18:11] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, you asked that question already one I answered it as well and have reiterated it several times, so if I explain something, and you don't understand let me know. :D
[18:11] <tawtaw> nimbiotics: openssh
[18:11] <tawtaw> is what you want
[18:11] <tawtaw> nimbiotics: you you could try vnc
[18:12] <arunkumar413> hi, plz help me to install themes in 11.10. i'm using gnome shell
[18:12] <GraemeLion> I totally cannot wait for rhythmbox to return :P
[18:12] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, your doing good it is confusing if it is a new territory, I know it was for me, :D
[18:13] <lauratika> i totally like unity bar but how do i edit icons or display size as in gnome panel?
[18:14] <urlin2u> lauratika, the display size with the unity-plugin in the compizconfig manager
[18:14] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : sorry if you are repeating things .. my brain isn't what it used to be :) ....... so i'm in the windows 7 setup disk .. windows is searching for installations .. use recovery tools that can help fix problems is selected ... (taking a while to find windows installs)  .. found windows 7  partition size 753571 location (D) Local disk  ..... clicking next
[18:15] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : next window ... startup repair / system restore / system image rec / winows mem diag / command prompt / .... choosing cmd prompt
[18:15] <surgy> hello
[18:15] <lauratika> urlin2u:what about moving icons?
[18:16] <urlin2u> urlin2u, here is a w7 forums link for a nice visual. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/20864-mbr-restore-windows-7-master-boot-record.html
[18:16] <ajah> why does network manager spawn again when i kill it i don`t need such tool in my case
[18:16] <surgy> i need help tethering my blackberry using bluetooth i have them paired and when i click on "connect to the internet with this device" it makes a connection in the drop down box, but when i try to connect to it, it flashes for a bit then says "disconnected"
[18:16] <delerium> I keep getting
[18:16]  * delerium oops!
[18:17] <urlin2u> lauratika, some move some don't the ones that due can be dragged up and down, by left click held down and dragging them as if going to the desktop but up or down on thwe plane of the panel and reinserted.
[18:17] <delerium> I keep getting 'failed to download package, check your internet connection' But it's fine.
[18:17] <urlin2u> the*
[18:18] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, you looking dor the command prompt to run the bootrec.exe /fixboot
[18:18] <urlin2u> for*
[18:18] <surgy> does anyone have any experience tethering a blackberry?
[18:19] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: i'm in c: now ... run it from there?
[18:19] <reisio> surgy: ##blackberry
[18:19] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, if your at the command prompt as shown in the link yes.
[18:20] <lalakis> erg
[18:20] <surgy> i though this would be an ubuntu support related question since the functionality seams to be built into the operating system
[18:20] <GraemeLion> Hey, odd question.. I'm looking for the audio player that does the best /least configuration streaming music.  It's for my grandmother.   I'd prefer her not have to know about things like "URL"
[18:20] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, #5 in the link shows the command prompt the repair terminal in linux speak.
[18:20] <bekks> surgy: the OS on the blackberry isnt Ubuntu ;)
[18:20] <reisio> surgy: I'm not banishing you
[18:21] <lalakis> llutz are u here?
[18:21] <surgy> reisio thanks for the lead
[18:21] <llutz> lalakis: i am
[18:21] <lalakis> something is ruined
[18:21] <Anonymousquisour> hello
[18:21] <surgy> bekks, no there is a connect using this device option in the bluetooth options in ubuntu
[18:21] <lalakis> ur consults made the pc not to have internet
[18:22] <lalakis> i am now talking from my netbook
[18:22] <lalakis> what shoudld i do?
[18:22] <reisio> lalakis: have fun?
[18:22] <llutz> lalakis_: sudo rm /etc/network/if-down.d/wol  "       but that definetly won't break your internet-connection
[18:23] <lalakis> i have already removed that script
[18:23] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: said it completed successfully ... booting again ..
[18:23] <llutz> lalakis: sudo service network-manager restart
[18:24] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : should be no grub now ... okay .. no grub .. now it's booting into ubuntu
[18:24] <okee> something weird is going on.  I can only boot into Ubuntu if I go into the recovery mode.  Otherwise I get the purple screen.  After recovery, it indicates the hardware clock is fixed.
[18:24] <lalakis> it gives   neowrk manager start/running
[18:24] <surgy> ok i think my problem is in bluetooth
[18:25] <saulotoledo> Hello! Why GTK3 themes do not works inside KDE?
[18:25] <surgy> when i try to browse files on the device my blackberry isnt in the list
[18:25] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, hmm so that command did not work, did you initiate getting the C in that command prompt or that is what it showed, it should have not shown being that the bootflag was not on the C partition.
[18:25] <reisio> saulotoledo: KDE uses a different toolkit, Qt
[18:25] <lalakis> still no network connections
[18:25] <saulotoledo> reisio: I know, but GTK2 applications can load his themes correctily
[18:26] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: all i know is that time when i booted there was no grub ...
[18:26] <llutz> lalakis: check cable/connection
[18:26] <lalakis> its ok.. i didnt change anything
[18:26] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, no grub now but booting to Ubuntu?
[18:26] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : that's correct
[18:26] <saulotoledo> reisio: but if I open a gtk3 application, the theme isn't loaded.. :(
[18:26] <llutz> lalakis: ethtool eth0|grep Link
[18:27] <reisio> saulotoledo: not all apps use GTK+ version 3
[18:27] <lalakis> link detected yes
[18:27] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, I think the #windows channel is going to be better as far as getting the windows up and running correctly. I will have to get to some homework in about 30 min, and on that channel are dual booters who know this stuff really well, just a suggestion.
[18:27] <grkblood> im having trouble installing lxbdplayer, has anyone done this successfully on 11.10?
[18:28] <lalakis> link partner advertised pause frame use no
[18:28] <enwood> ciao a tutti
[18:28] <enwood> 1list
[18:28] <lalakis> link partner advertised pause auto negotiation yes
[18:28] <enwood> !list
[18:28] <enwood> !bot
[18:29] <llutz> lalakis: does your iface have a valid IP, is your route ok?
[18:29] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, they use the bootscript as well run it again to show since you have run some commands some areas may be different.
[18:29] <nimbiotics> tawtaw: , reisio: What I'm trying to do is to remotely connect to another PC on my home network and login into my own session without interfering the user currently seated at that PC.
[18:29] <BlackCoffee> question,how can i find out why a hard drive isn't listed on the /media/ folder?it was working fine yesterday,now it won't appear
[18:29] <saulotoledo> reision: really... gut when I open some gtk3 app (brasero cd burner, for example), it's ugly :(
[18:29] <lalakis> from ubuntu i cant even conenct to my router page
[18:29] <Zoloka> Hey huys
[18:30] <Zoloka> *guys xD
[18:30] <llutz> lalakis: check all those iptables-rules you tried
[18:30] <lalakis> how can i remove all iptables rules
[18:30] <lalakis> ?
[18:30] <llutz> lalakis: better to flush all rules temporalily
[18:30] <Zoloka> I got a secuity problem
[18:30] <lalakis> how do i do this
[18:30] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, actually it is ##windows :D
[18:30] <llutz> lalakis: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-how-to-flush-all-rules.html
[18:30] <nimbiotics> tawtaw: , reisio: What I'm trying to do is to remotely connect to another PC on my home network and login into my own session without interfering the user currently seated at that PC. Both PCs are using ubuntu (11.04 on remote & 11.10 on local)
[18:30] <Zoloka> if someone can please help :O
[18:30] <llutz> lalakis: "sudo service ufw stop"  might work (i don#t know ufw)
[18:32] <Zoloka> Well i got a pdf from someone and i know have a Localhost infection ><
[18:32] <kitche2> oloka just say the issue
[18:32] <Niya> I'm wondering, now, how to file a feature request in Ubuntu ._.;
[18:32] <Zoloka> *now
[18:32] <llutz> !brainstorm | Niya
[18:33] <Niya> llutz: Okay. Awesome ^_^ Thank you!
[18:33] <ermi> tem alguem de santos
[18:34] <Zoloka> anyone here go to the #PHP?
[18:34] <delerium> Can't upgrade. Keep getting 'Failure to download pkgs, check connection' But my connection is OK. Here's the list of files it can't grab http://paste.ubuntu.com/729332/
[18:35] <Zoloka> nvm
[18:36] <Zoloka> LOKO you win
[18:36] <reisio> nimbiotics: the preinstalled VNC server should handle that
[18:36] <reisio> nimbiotics: and client
[18:36] <urlin2u> delerium, what is the release your on?
[18:37] <delerium> 11.10 lubuntu
[18:37] <urlin2u> delerium, you mean update then not upgrade?
[18:38] <delerium> yeah, update manager
[18:38] <urlin2u> delerium, was this a fresh install or a upgarde to 11.10 lubuntu?
[18:38] <urlin2u> uograde*
[18:39] <urlin2u> upgrade* Doh
[18:39] <delerium> urlin2u: sort of both. I booted from the iso and it gave me the choice. Wipe everything or install over, so I installed over
[18:39] <iha> hello all, is there a way to install the grub into other partition head instead of mbr?
[18:40] <lalakis> sit llutz
[18:40] <urlin2u> delerium, you might just change the apt source download server I suspect that is the problem.
[18:41] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u: had to take a little break myself lol .. can get a little frustrating after the first 100 boots ... I will get it to work no worries :) ... at worst I will learn the guts of grub myself :)
[18:41] <MeanEYE> Is there a way to make links to /var/www and have apache use them if my home directory is encrypted?
[18:41] <delerium> urlin2u: in sources.list?
[18:42] <jasox> Hi ppl, I have problem with registration openPGP keys. I imported key 4 days ago but It still says "Keys pending validation" on Launcpad.net
[18:42] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, I don't think it is a grub problem it seems to be in the windows setup, the not seen HD from the live cd is the first clue, as the partitioning set is is a standard one.
[18:42] <gry> hi, do I /need/ the 'previous linux versions' which I see in Grub if the latest kernel booted successfully several times?
[18:42] <llutz> MeanEYE: why do you encrypt your data if you want to give a webserver access to it (including all security-risks)?
[18:43] <lalakis> i booted into windows 7 now
[18:43] <MeanEYE> llutz: Well, local apache server is used for development and it's on my laptop which I used when traveling. So in the end I need to work but in case of loosing it no one should have access to files.
[18:43] <lalakis> and internet is working ok llutz
[18:43] <llutz> lalakis: so what?
[18:43] <lalakis> ubuntu still has probles after flushing the iptables
[18:44] <MeanEYE> llutz: Would changing user under which apache runs allow me to do that.
[18:44] <lalakis> with ubuntu i dont have internet.. with windows 7 i have
[18:44] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, I always have everything backed up, and I have the W7 install discs, and never use a Windows boot partition, basically because it is a extra partition only needed if using the W7 encryption,  but I have a upgrade W7 install not the OEM.
[18:44] <ubidoobi3> urlin2u : ... i'm in win channel now asking questions :)
[18:45] <urlin2u> ubidoobi3, cool PZt is the guy.
[18:45] <llutz> MeanEYE: idk, i'd prefer to copy the stuff to be published anywhere outside my $home
[18:45] <MeanEYE> llutz: Am not sure if that's an option. But thanks anyway.
[18:45] <JockeTF> Hello!
[18:45] <gry> hi JockeTF
[18:46] <JockeTF> Do anyone else experience frequent (about 10 per day) crashes with gnome-shell?
[18:46] <JockeTF> I'm using it but the crashes are making it a bit difficult.
[18:46] <JockeTF> I have an Intel 945GM GPU on a 32-bit machine.
[18:47] <JockeTF> The crashes seem pretty random.
[18:47] <JockeTF> My question is basically... Is it just me or is it a general problem?
[18:47] <llutz> lalakis: you have to check network-settings on ubuntu and revert all changes you made until your last shutdown
[18:50] <wayne> Please HELP > http://pastebin.com/57k1hBny
[18:51] <mikemol> How do I switch which display manager the system uses?
[18:52] <llutz> mikemol: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <dm you want>
[18:53] <mikemol> Cool. Now I have gdm as default again. Where did /etc/gdm/gdm-custon.conf of /etc/X11/gdm/custom.conf go?
[18:53] <wayne> http://pastebin.com/57k1hBny
[18:53] <grkblood> any lxbdplayer users here?
[18:53] <nimbiotics> PLZ help. I'm trying to remotely open a new session on a PC  via vncviewer, but all it does is open the current open session. I do NOT want to disturb the current user. Am I in the wrong path? Is virtualization a better option for me? TIA
[18:53] <wayne> My pc Keeps saying (Signal OUT OF Range) Whenever I reboot the computer.
[18:54] <wayne> I can't seem to help it
[18:54] <wayne> *_*
[18:54] <bo0ob> A
[18:55] <bo0ob> alguien habla español
[18:55] <llutz> !es | bo0ob
[18:55] <wayne> Please?
[18:56] <wayne> If I'm not wanted here I'll just fucking leave
[18:56] <carli21> hi. does anyone of you have cloud experience with remote login for graphical shells?
[18:56] <StepNjump> To backup system using tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found, I keep getting error: file has changed and then aborts. Would it best to run from liveCD with chroot?
[18:57] <StepNjump> Sorry, backup all my /
[18:57] <llutz> StepNjump: no chroot needed. use tar --one-file-system       then you don't need your --excludes
[18:57] <llutz> StepNjump: exept Lost+Found
[18:58] <StepNjump> ok llutz. I will try again. it's true I was on the internet browsing so....
[18:58] <StepNjump> thanks
[18:58] <llutz> StepNjump: and be warned: gzipping tar is dangerous. one broken bit in archive makes it unusable
[18:58] <v2r> exit
[18:58] <StepNjump> k, thanks llutz
[18:59] <StepNjump> llutz, I'm trying to transfer all my / to a new computer. Is this the best way to do it?
[19:00] <llutz> StepNjump: i prefer using rsync. either via network or connecting new HDD directly
[19:00] <StepNjump> ok thanks, I'll look into it llutz
[19:01] <_calum> hi, I was wondering if anyone could tell me what this command actually does? sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=100000000
[19:01] <llutz> StepNjump: rsync -arux  /src /dst                 is what i use
[19:01] <gravytrane> tried kde desktop, went back to unity, boot screen still shows blue kubuntu screen, how do i get rid of it?
[19:02] <llutz> _calum: sets maximum size of Shared-Memory-Segments (in Bytes)
[19:03] <gianvi98> ciao
[19:03] <_calum> I was told to run it to get Avast working
[19:03] <gianvi98> !list
[19:03] <_calum> just wondering if it was safe, thanks llutz
[19:05] <StepNjump> Oh thank you llutz. I found a script here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync
[19:05] <StepNjump> I'll try your way though
[19:05] <glitchd> can anyone offer me any assitance with this? http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/784138-howto-boot-existing-ubuntu-partition-using-virtualbox-inside-windows/    please.
[19:06] <glitchd> everyone in the #vbox room refuses to help me.
[19:06] <StepNjump> llutz, do I need to shut down all my apps first before running rsync?
[19:06] <nimbiotics> I'm trying to remotely open a new session on a PC  via vncviewer, but all it does is open the current open session. I do NOT want to disturb the current user. Am I in the wrong path? Is virtualization a better option for me? TIA
[19:06] <mordonez> Hi guys
[19:06] <llutz> StepNjump: to avoid data-corruption you should. best to use a live-cd.
[19:07] <mordonez> anyone knows why in ubuntu 11.10 appears an orange square sometimes?
[19:07] <StepNjump> nimbiotics, try remmina
[19:07] <StepNjump> and just mount the partition normally llutz?
[19:07] <nimbiotics> StepNjump: THX
[19:07] <llutz> StepNjump: yes, like /mnt/old   /mnt/new
[19:07] <StepNjump> awesome. thanks!
[19:08] <llutz> StepNjump: you need to repair grub and edit /etc/fstab on new ssytem after copying
[19:08] <SudoKing> i forgot to mark my existing home partition as the mount point for /home during ubuntu upgrade... how should I go about marking it as such and removing the one from the root partition?
[19:08] <StepNjump> yes sure. llutz.. No need to chroot into the old partition eh?
[19:09] <llutz> StepNjump: no
[19:09] <zelrik> hi
[19:09] <StepNjump> Yes I like this idea better than taring. Thanks for the warning llutz
[19:09] <zelrik> how to have a different wallpaper on different screens with a dual screen
[19:09] <najamsa> SudoKing: just addd the mapping for the home partition in /etc/fstab
[19:09] <zelrik> my video card is an nvidia
[19:10] <llutz> StepNjump: you also could just use "cp -ax /src /dst" ;)
[19:10] <llutz> StepNjump: i guess there are hundreds of ways to clone an installation. pick what you like
[19:11] <najamsa> I have something like this: /dev/sda5  /home           ext4    noatime,defaults   0       2
[19:12] <thechef> Are Browser statistics unreliable for determining market share of OSes, because Ubuntu and Smartphone systems are more efficient than traditional systems as they do not force the user to browse the net for installing software?
[19:14] <DanielHNRW> Hi there
[19:14] <DanielHNRW> Anyone here which could help me with netzwork configurations?
[19:14] <pnorman> thechef: browser statistics are reliable for indicating the viewership of your site, nothing else
[19:15] <pnorman> you can get trends from overall ones, but the actual percentages are meaningless
[19:15] <pnorman> tech market will tend to more ff/chrome then IE compaired to overall stats, corporate market will tend to more older versions of IE, etc
[19:15] <lalakis> llutz?
[19:15] <llutz> lalakis: ?
[19:15] <lalakis> can u go to that page to help me?  http://www.dslreports.com/wakeup
[19:16] <lalakis> i need to check my wakeup outside from my netwrk
[19:16] <llutz> lalakis: needs your external ip + mac of pc to be activate
[19:16] <llutz> d
[19:16] <lalakis> ok
[19:17] <lalakis> 109.242.237.48   and 001966e9e4d3
[19:17] <llutz> "dingeling" lalakis
[19:17] <lalakis> it didnt start
[19:18] <lalakis> do u know how to change packet form ubuntu?  any command?
[19:18] <lalakis> how to send packet llutz i mean in ubuntu
[19:18] <llutz> lalakis: "change packet"?
[19:18] <rhizmoe> why when I click the "home" icon in the dash, does the icon only wiggle, requiring me to click it again to bring it to the top?
[19:18] <llutz> lalakis: install wakeonlan, "/usr/bin/wakeonlan aa.bb.cc.dd.ee.ff"
[19:19] <lalakis> i dont have internet in linux
[19:19] <llutz> lalakis: you are behing a router?
[19:19] <lalakis> im on windows now in netbook pc
[19:19] <llutz> behind?
[19:19] <rhizmoe> that would seem to be a problem
[19:19] <lalakis> i am behind router
[19:19] <Auckla> What up guys.
[19:19] <llutz> lalakis: you setup portforwarding WAN  :9 -> LAN-Broadcast UDP:9 ?
[19:20] <lalakis> can u send me a packet to test if pc wakes up ?? yes
[19:20] <lalakis> its ok
[19:20] <lalakis> do u have any tool installed for sending packets?
[19:20] <llutz> lalakis: use tcpdump/wireshark to see if the magic-packet is broadcasted at all
[19:21] <dejavou42> I can't seem to get my cdrom to mount for some reason...
[19:21] <dejavou42> What is the command like lspci that would show the device?
[19:22] <reisio> dejavou42: you only have one CD drive?
[19:22] <dejavou42> two
[19:22] <phoenixsampras> HELP!!, please somebody address me how to PING many servers, to get their uptime, something simple ??
[19:22] <lalakis> now the desktop pc is power off. if i send packet from another pc inside the home network the desktop pc opens.
[19:22] <lalakis> if my mother send me a packet from her home, then desktop pc doesnt open
[19:22] <llutz> lalakis: so again: use tcpdump/wireshark to see if the magic-packet is broadcasted at all
[19:23] <lalakis> hoewver, if desktop pc is in sleep mode then it wakes from my netbook and from my mothers pc from her home as weel
[19:23] <zelrik> how to get different wallpapers on different screens
[19:23] <zelrik> nvidia dual monitor
[19:23] <dejavou42> reisio: one is a cd-rw and the other is a dvd/cd-rw
[19:23] <zelrik> I managed it before but I cant figure it out anymore
[19:24] <reisio> dejavou42: you might have to tweak a udev file since you have two
[19:24] <dejavou42> reisio: it worked before a recent update
[19:24] <reisio> dejavou42: you might have to tweak a udev file since you have two
[19:25] <JosephHarrietha> Hello. I have an inquiry about the Ubuntu Project itself, but not in regard to any specific official fork, may I ask it here?
[19:25] <OY1R> im an logged in as administrator but when i try to make a new user i get "The configuration could not be saved, you are not allowed to modify the system configuration" running ubuntu 10.04.
[19:25] <reisio> dejavou42: meantime the other one should work
[19:25] <danes> hello, is there any xm radio player?
[19:25] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: that remains to be seen
[19:25] <LarsN> is there a recent guide for power tuning ubuntu for laptops?
[19:25] <dejavou42> reisio: gotcha, but neither are being recognized
[19:25] <danes> hello, is there any xm radio player application that I can use to play audio?
[19:25] <danes> besides a web site?
[19:25] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, So,do you in your opinion, think I should ask it here?
[19:25] <reisio> dejavou42: ah
[19:26] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: it's impossible to say until you spit the question out
[19:26] <reisio> danes: is there one for any OS?
[19:26] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, sorry, I am only trying to stay on-topic and not impose. Thank you :)
[19:27] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: so?
[19:28] <JosephHarrietha> I would like to ask that since there is no official Ubuntu distribution containing an official version of the Gnome project, only a fork built on the gnome 2 stack, and ported to the gnome  3 stack, if there will be an offical "Gubuntu", or a Ubuntu sporting a Default Gnome 3 desktop, akin to the other *Buntu projects where the only difference is a desktop enviroment.
[19:28] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: Ubuntu does use official GNOME, GNOME 3 in recent versions
[19:28] <reisio> though it comes by default with a special configuration, Unity, which you can replace by installing gnome-shell
[19:29] <reisio> AFAIK there has been no committment to continue supporting GNOME 2
[19:29] <JosephHarrietha> But i've been told that it's not officially supported.
[19:29] <tweakkkkk> hallo, ich wollte mal einen anderen dns server nutzen als den von kabel deutschland. wenn ich einen anderen in /etc/resolv.conf eintragen wird trotzdem der von kabel benutzt :(   Ich habe keinen Router zwischen geschaltet, also direkt ans modem.
[19:29] <reisio> if any of the GNOME 2 forks endure, however, I see no reason why they won't support those
[19:29] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: what isn't?
[19:29] <tweakkkkk> sorry, wrong channel
[19:29] <llutz> !de |tweakkkkk:
[19:29] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Gnome-shell, replacing unity
[19:29] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: ...what about it?
[19:29] <reisio> you said something about official
[19:30] <llutz> tweakkkkk: add you dns to the connection in networkmanager
[19:30] <JosephHarrietha> reisio. Yes, when I asked about using gnome 3 instead of unity, I was told that it was "unsupported"
[19:30] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: someone probably though you meant version 2, not 3
[19:30] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: for ordinary 3 you need only install gnome-shell, log out, hit the cog next to your user to change to it, log in
[19:31] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: you might also want to install gnome-tweak-tool, gnome-panel, gnome-session-fallback
[19:31] <JosephHarrietha> reisio. So I came here asking about an offical support of gnome3 on Ubuntu. I asked that question in mid-july and the reply I recived was that I would be unable to ask questions in this IRC about Ubuntu if I used the gnome-shell instead of ubuntu-unity
[19:31] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: that sounds like nonsense to me
[19:31] <hanasaki> what is a good (prefer webbrower based) tool for editing ldap entries of users/groups/services? that will also make the home directories when a new user is created
[19:31] <reisio> Ubuntu supports both Unity and ordinary GNOME 3
[19:31] <reisio> Unity runs on top of ordinary GNOME 3
[19:31] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, I know. I currently run Gnome 3 on an ArchLinux base.
[19:31] <AleXstX> How can i convert plain text to .lst or .wpa? i have a dictionary list i wrote and i need to properly convert it...
[19:32] <reisio> AleXstX: not heard of those formats, what are they
[19:32] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Thats what I had thought, I was appalled when support was not given, I had attribted it to the decline in the status of canonicals relationship with the GNOME project.
[19:32] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: it's likely, again, they thought you meant GNOME 2
[19:33] <tweakkkkk> llutz; it doesn't work :(
[19:33] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Thank you sir. Do you mind If i keep a log of our conversation to show to any people who may say to me that it is "unsupported"
[19:33] <Gblue> Can anyone help me?
[19:33] <AleXstX> someone help?
[19:34] <JosephHarrietha> Gblue, Well, whats your problem
[19:34] <Gblue> In ubuntu server, when i try to run firestarter it says: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[19:34] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: not at all, but you need only show them gnome-shell in Ubuntu's repos to prove that
[19:34] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=gnome-shell
[19:35] <Gblue> In ubuntu server, when i try to run firestarter it says: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[19:35] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: or explain to them that it's impossible to support Unity without supporting GNOME 3, as the former runs on top of the latter
[19:35] <ZeitFight> Hello! I'm trying to make a bootable pendrive with slax on it. I've downloaded the tar file from the webpage slax.org and I have extracted the two files in it to the pendrive. Inside the pendrive boot-folder theres a file I need to run to finalize the installation. Whenever I try to run this file bootinst.sh I get the message >>>sudo: ./bootinst.sh: command not found
[19:35] <reisio> Gblue: and the application doesn't start?
[19:35] <Gblue> uhu
[19:35] <Gblue> it won't start
[19:35] <llutz> tweakkkkk: righclick on network-manager-applet "Verbindungen bearbeiten" "kabelgebunden" -> your connection. "IPV4" "Methode" "DHCP nur Adressen"  dns goes into field DNS-Server
[19:35] <reisio> ZeitFight: #slax ? or use unetbootin
[19:36] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, thank you. I like the unity desktop, and I think that it is a simply wonderful endeavour.... But I have taken a liking to gnome 3. Are the shell-extensions on the repo aswell? Some are officially supported by the Gnome project.
[19:37] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: named?
[19:38] <llutz> tweakkkkk: or you edit "/etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf" and set your dns in "prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8 "  and restart networkmanager
[19:38] <marw> why can't i select any option in lash settings, nor close the window (yt video > right click > settings)?
[19:38] <marw> *flash
[19:38] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, the should be under "gnome-shell-extension-*", this is how they appear in the offical Arch Repo http://bit.ly/thQoVh
[19:39] <niko332> !list
[19:39] <ShawnRisk> how do I get rid of the keynote password screen that appears each time?  I believe this is for my wifi password.  I am using Ubuntu 11.10.
[19:39] <niko332> _)
[19:39] <ChibiTan> Just upgraded to 11.10 and can't run Kildclient. Running in Terminal brings up an error that it can't find libperl.so.5.10. Checked Synaptic, I have libperl 5.12 installed. Tried reinstalling Kildclient from the software center, same error. Any ideas?
[19:40] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, The reason for providing the other repo is that the nomenclature should be similar. I am looking to use Ubuntu as my only operating system instead of the Arch/Ubuntu dual boot because, as nice as arch is... Its more trouble that I have time for now-a-days
[19:40] <JosephHarrietha> than*
[19:41] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11338056&postcount=5 might have to install them manually
[19:41] <ShawnRisk> ChibiTan: you should tell us the error
[19:41] <JosephHarrietha> doritoDan, Please don't set your IRC to autojoin a channel, it shows your hostname , logs you out and then logs you back in with your cloak.
[19:41] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: or via a "PPA"
[19:41] <Maccer> Gr... the Marvell drivers don't work for Ubuntu.  Ubuntu still doesn't detect my ethernet connection. :(
[19:42] <doritoDan> JosephHarrietha: Thanks, but why is that a problem
[19:42] <reisio> Maccer: you ever say what device it is you've got?
[19:42] <ChibiTan> ShawnRisk: "kildclient: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[19:42] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, I feared that, but I will ask if they can support some of them, and simultaneously seek out a PPA :)
[19:42] <Maccer> reisio: Yeah, Marvell 88E8057
[19:42] <hanasaki> how usable is the samba4 stuff?
[19:43] <JosephHarrietha> doritoDan, Well, the point of your cloak is to hide your hostname right? Well, its out for the world to see.
[19:43] <Maccer> Sounds like a lot of people from Ubuntu and CentOS are having problems with this.
[19:43] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: I'm sure they'll be in the official repo eventually
[19:43] <Maccer> There's a PPA repo to fix it, problem is, there's no internet!
[19:43] <Maccer> So I tried to compile my own but I don't know how to get ubuntu to load it
[19:43] <JosephHarrietha> doritoDan, see, http://pastebin.com/puM3BKyC
[19:44] <Maccer> ( reisio )
[19:44] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Hmm, well if not I can always pick up debian packaging Ubuntu style. I manage a cydia repo alredy, which uses debian-style aswell.
[19:45] <reisio> Maccer: you can't just sudo modprobe sky2 ?
[19:45] <Pilif12p> yeah i know don't change nicks. it's one line. not that big of a deal. if someone doesn't know how to scroll up they probably shouldn't be using irc
[19:45] <reisio> Maccer: and/or skge
[19:46] <ShawnRisk> ChibiTan: http://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=125
[19:46] <JosephHarrietha> Well, Thank you reisio, I'll stay in IRC for a while and see if anybody needs help while I install Gnome3.... I'll probably have to switch into a tty and irssi though haha :P
[19:46] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: why's that
[19:46] <Maccer> reisio: No output on either sky2, skge, or sk98lin (apparently the one I compiled)
[19:47] <Maccer> This is a fresh install of ubuntu btw
[19:47] <reisio> Maccer: there isn't normally output, lsmod | egrep -i 'sky2|skge' to see if they're loaded
[19:47] <reisio> Maccer: then tell your network to start
[19:47] <reisio> if it works remember to add the module/s to your auto load list
[19:47] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, I figured out the fallancy in what I said only after I said it. Ill just install and logout/login :P
[19:47] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: ah :D
[19:48] <ShawnRisk> any ideas on my question?
[19:49] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Is there a single meta package that I can uninstall to remove the unity interface?
[19:49] <reisio> ShawnRisk: it seems to allude to another question
[19:49] <Maccer> reisio: They're all loaded apparently, but used by nothing.  What do you mean tell my network to start it?  Also sky2 might conflict with sk98lin so I dunno
[19:49] <doritoDan> JosephHarrietha: I'm happy if people don't see it upon whois. I don't really care if they can see it in an isolated instance.
[19:49] <doritoDan> But thanks.
[19:49] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: probably, but I couldn't tell you which
[19:50] <JosephHarrietha> doritoDan, Alright :P, no problem
[19:50] <doritoDan> :)
[19:50] <reisio> Maccer: sudo /etc/init.d/network start or something like that
[19:50] <ShawnRisk> reisio: no before that
[19:50] <ChibiTan> ShawnRisk: "E: Unable to locate package libperl5.10" "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libperl5.10'". It doesn't exist because the newer version 5.12 does, which I already have installed.
[19:50] <reisio> service, etc.
[19:50] <reisio> ShawnRisk: eh?
[19:50] <JosephHarrietha> Alright, Now I have an issue... I seem to have pressed a keyboard combination that now causes my writing to be in "overwrite" mode instead of insert....
[19:50] <javier_> Hi! I have problems with internet in Ubuntu. It goes very slow, an with windows is normal. it's a serious problems, I use my computer specially for internet. Someone knows what can help? I tried changing to Google DNS, but is not a big difference (if I did it well). Thanks!
[19:50] <JosephHarrietha> Nvm, found it. Stupid insert key.
[19:51] <ShawnRisk> reisio: how do I get rid of the keynote password screen that appears each time? I believe this is for my wifi password. I am using Ubuntu 11.10.
[19:51] <reisio> ShawnRisk: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20disable%20keyring
[19:51] <ShawnRisk> ChibiTan: so?
[19:52] <ChibiTan> ShawnRisk: So it doesn't work.
[19:53] <ShawnRisk> reisio: I will look
[19:53] <ShawnRisk> ChibiTan: why is it asking you for 5.10?
[19:53] <Galvatron> javier_: Any details, like how are you connected?
[19:54] <ChibiTan> ShawnRisk: I have no idea why.
[19:54] <javier_> Galvatron: I'm with wireless conection, in ubuntu 11.10. It happens with all internet, not just flash. Also in several programs: firefox, chromium, jdownloader... All my flatmates with windows have normal speed, and I get very low one with the best laptop
[19:55] <ShawnRisk> ChibiTan: not sure but best bet is to search internet for answer and if nothing come back here
[19:56] <Galvatron> javier_: How about 11.04?
[19:56] <ChibiTan> ShawnRisk: I've already googled. No luck. I always google before I ask for help.
[19:56] <LnxSlck> hello guys
[19:56] <LnxSlck> quick question
[19:56] <JosephHarrietha> Theres something odd about this gnome 3... but I can't place my finger on it.
[19:56] <LnxSlck> i had ubuntu 11.10 installed with grub and ubuntu theme
[19:56] <LnxSlck> now i have grub with debian theme
[19:56] <javier_> Galvatron: I recently moved here and I had already 11.10, so I haven't tried with 11.04
[19:56] <JosephHarrietha> Oh... windows are still using the theme from unity... *sigh*
[19:56] <LnxSlck> how i restore grub to ubuntu theme?
[19:57] <ShawnRisk> ChibiTan: okay I have to go but ask again in a few mins if no one else seems to be helping you.
[19:57] <ShawnRisk> reisio: That helped out, I believe what I searched for last time didn't help me at all
[19:57] <Galvatron> LnxSlck: sudo aptitude reinstall grub-pc
[19:57] <reisio> ShawnRisk: that'd explain why you were still searching
[19:58] <LnxSlck> Galvatron, does it have to be with aptitude?
[19:58] <Maccer> Forever networkless.  <_>
[19:58] <Galvatron> javier_: 11.10 is very fresh and needs time to get into a fully usable state, so trying 11.04, even as a LiveCD, could tell us something.
[19:59] <Galvatron> LnxSlck: The command for apt-xxx should be "sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc
[19:59] <JosephHarrietha> Much better...
[19:59] <LnxSlck> Galvatron, going to try it thanks
[20:00] <javier_> Galvatron: but I remember, in my previous house, it was also slow in 11.04. I don't think the prblem is there
[20:00] <Galvatron> javier_: What wireless card do you have?
[20:01] <javier_> Galvatron: How can I check that?
[20:01] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, lscpi | grep net
[20:02] <DarezGhost> guys, I need to install 64bit ubuntu but I'm already on a 32bit. my system doesn't have any optical drives. is it possible to initiate a 64bit os install from within my current 32bit installation
[20:02] <NlessKnight> Darez: Looking to reformat, I'm assuming?
[20:03] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, lscpi | grep -i net , sorry, forgot to do incase sensitive
[20:03] <DarezGhost> it doesn't matter either way, just need the OS
[20:03] <DarezGhost> reinstall would be fine
[20:03] <DarezGhost> reformat*
[20:03] <pnorman> DarezGhost: Can't answer your question, but have you considered installing from a USB drive?
[20:03] <tarelerulz> I use my ntfs partition on windows 7 for storing movie and I found couple had been deleted .  Have any of you  had this happen to you ?
[20:03] <reisio> tarelerulz: yup, after deleting things
[20:03] <DarezGhost> i don't have a usb drive either. well i do but its a tiny 512mb one
[20:03] <AdhamSabry> hi
[20:03] <Besnikk> Where can I fund Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[20:03] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, I'm afraid it doesnt do anything with that. Lscpi is wrong, termnial says
[20:04] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, lspci *
[20:04] <Galvatron> DarezGhost: No.
[20:04] <AdhamSabry> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.10, sometimes it just logs me out or suddenly it goes to login screen, whats with that?
[20:04] <NlessKnight> Darez: What pnorman's suggesting would be your best bet.  Transfer the ISO onto a USB drive, SD card (if your system has a reader for it, of course), etc.
[20:04] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Gah, sorry , thats was two mistakes on my part in one command. I'm terribly sorry.
[20:04] <pnorman> DarezGhost: THe alternate installer might be small enough to fit on there - I'm not sure
[20:04] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, it's ok :)
[20:04] <AdhamSabry> when I'm in the middle of work or something, it just shows me the login screen suddenly and I get to login from the start
[20:04] <Galvatron> Besnikk: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/
[20:04] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, Galvatron : 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01)
[20:04] <javier_> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[20:05] <DarezGhost> meh, i know of other ways to install. i mean i can always do a netboot
[20:05] <AdhamSabry> Do anyone know why is that?
[20:05] <DarezGhost> can i initiate an install from within ubuntu
[20:05] <DarezGhost> but i'm asking
[20:05] <tetsuo--> hello, how do i check the brand, model and firmware of the dvdburner?
[20:05] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, What laptop are you using, out of curiosity?
[20:05] <tarelerulz> So reisio , you write to your ntfs partition a  lot ?
[20:05] <Besnikk> Galvatron: I need the LiveCD
[20:05] <reisio> every time I have to
[20:06] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, it's an ACER Aspire 5742
[20:06] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, I'm using a gateway md73 and our hardware is similar, Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter and Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8057 PCI-E
[20:06] <Galvatron> Besnikk: 10.10 is supported only until 12.04 is released, so it would be better to go for 11.04, especially that it also has classic GNOME2 (altogether with Unity) and there is a PPA for stble Compiz 0.8.6.;)
[20:06] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Thats why, Gateway and acer are sister companies.
[20:06] <Auckla> Ahh server rebuilt. Time to log out of this TTY thank you older failing hardware to make me replace it.
[20:07] <Auckla> I will see you guys all again in 1975 from a proper terminal.
[20:07] <Besnikk> Galvatron: I don't like Unity
[20:07] <Auckla> :D Time to put this machine back in the rack. :D
[20:07] <gry2> hi, is it safe to remove old kernel versions by "completely uninstalling" the old linux-image entries in synaptic?
[20:07] <Galvatron> Besnikk: That's what I gave you. Evert Ubuntu CD/DVD is "live".
[20:07] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Just a random tidbit, your wireless card supports packet injection... anyway, Offtopic. Are you using ethernet? If you are, I may have your solution
[20:07] <jrib> gry2: yes, though you should keep one around
[20:08] <Galvatron> Besnikk: And so I say it also has normal GNOME.
[20:08] <gry2> jrib, is it ok to 'completely' uninstall them or to 'uninstall' them? what's the difference?
[20:08] <ChibiTan> Just upgraded to 11.10 and can't run Kildclient. Running in Terminal brings up "error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Checked Synaptic, I have libperl 5.12 installed. Tried reinstalling Kildclient from the software center, same error. Any ideas?
[20:08] <Felix72> unity is likely to be one of the first things, i'm going to delete when upgrading
[20:08] <jrib> gry2: both are safe.  Completely uninstall removes configuration files but I don't think there are any for the linux-image packages
[20:08] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, I see. And do you have similar problems?
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> Felix72: try Mint 12
[20:09] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, No I don't.. But I know that there is an issue with broadcom ethernet cards and Ubuntu. I can solve that one, as for Atheros wireless cards.... I've never had an issue. ever.
[20:09] <Galvatron> MonkeyDust:Nah - Mint 12 = Ubuntu 11.10 (i.e. no GNOME2/Mate)
[20:10] <w30> gry2, the advantage of using synaptic is that it also updates your grub config and doesn't show the old kernel choices any more
[20:10] <Galvatron> MonkeyDust: They've just officially confirmed it.
[20:10] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, but mine is broadcom or atheros?
[20:10] <Felix72> hi monkey, am pretty fine with 10.04, am just afraid of getting uncomfortable with newer releases. thanks for the tip
[20:10] <bkerensa>  Any idea what package handles system wide proxy settings in Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Galvatron: that's not what i've read
[20:10] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Are you having your problems on ethernet (pluged in) or wireless
[20:11] <Galvatron> MonkeyDust: I've read it just today (compatibility and dependency issues).
[20:11] <Felix72> I already miss the option to chance GDM themes
[20:11] <reisio> you can change lightdm themes too :p
[20:11] <reisio> and they should be easier to make
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> ah, idd, it's MGSE
[20:11] <gry2> Felix72, pretty sure you can install something to bring that option back again
[20:11] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, is that what the new login manager is? Lightdm? My god, its quite amazing.
[20:12] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, on wireless
[20:12] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: it has its perks
[20:12] <reisio> anything that depends less on GNOME is good
[20:12] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Alright, so my idea wasen't the right one. What is your issue with it again?
[20:12] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, I see, with atheros
[20:13] <Maccer> How does one download a PPA package offline from a machine that doesn't have ubuntu?
[20:13] <reisio> Maccer: one doesn't
[20:13] <Felix72> I already uninstalled plymouth :)
[20:13] <reisio> Maccer: one can fairly easily copy it over, however
[20:13] <zelrik> I want to put 2 different wallpapers on a dual screen
[20:13] <Maccer> reisio: Why not?
[20:13] <guntbert> bkerensa: any "system settings" will be only valid for apps that decide to adhere by them, so I suppose the answer must be "there is no such app"
[20:13] <zelrik> hello
[20:13] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, just internet is slow in all my machine, but not in windows. The problem is there in firefox, chromium, jdownloader, terminal if I install something from internet source...
[20:13] <gry2> How do I switch from the new Gnome2 scrollbars to the "classic" ones?
[20:13] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Haha in someways. it is nice to have a very large community back gnome though. gdm may (once they can decide on something) end up being beter.
[20:13] <reisio> Maccer: ah misunderstood you I think
[20:13] <gry2> Gnome3, even.
[20:13] <reisio> Maccer: just find it and download it
[20:14] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: I guess I should say as a person who doesn't use GNOME, I like it when things don't depend on it
[20:14] <elgaton> Maccer: the best way is to use Synaptic to create a download script, copy the URLs from there and then use them to download the packages from the other machine.
[20:14] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Wait, okay this kinda jarred something... are you using btrfs?
[20:14] <Maccer> elgaton: I don't have ubuntu to download this on.
[20:14] <JosephHarrietha> reisio,  What DE do you use? Personally I prefer GNOME and Openbox
[20:14] <Maccer> https://launchpad.net/~foresto/+archive/extradrivers  This for instance, how would one download this package on windows and execute it off-line on ubuntu?
[20:14] <elgaton> Maccer: you use Ubuntu just to get the URLs. You can then use them on ANY machine.
[20:14] <trism> Maccer: on the ppa page, click 'View package details', then expand the package you want to download and they are listed at the bottom
[20:15] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: Xfce
[20:15] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: but I don't use Ubuntu
[20:15] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, xubuntu? Or?
[20:15] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: or
[20:15] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Lmao, which one?
[20:15] <Maccer> I assume the .deb already includes the files, trism?
[20:16] <javier_> JosephHarrietha,  what is btrfs?
[20:16] <trism> Maccer: the debs are generally what you want unless you are rebuilding the package
[20:16] <JosephHarrietha> Maccer, Most times yes.. but the can also contain downloads to git repositories.
[20:16]  * Maccer crosses his fingers
[20:16] <reisio> javier_: it's a fancy new FS that isn't quite ready yet but _should be_ the FS to beat very soon
[20:17] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Its nice to see another minimalist distrobution user around haha. I am a ArchLinux user as I have said, I used to use Gentoo before I became weary of compiling.
[20:17] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Okay, can you do the command "blkid" and look for any with TYPE="btrfs"
[20:17] <nimbiotics> is there a way to sync software between 11.04 & 11.10? TIA!
[20:17] <reisio> yeah Arch and Gentoo have a kinship I s'pose
[20:18] <zelrik> how to set 2 wallpapers on a dual screen
[20:18] <bkerensa> guntbert: Ok better question.... Since I have Tor/Polipo with Vidalia and I set all traffic under proxy settings to go to 127.0.0.0.1:8050 via Socks why is those settings being ignored in 11.10 yet it worked fine in 11.04
[20:18] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, In ideals yes, I find arch copies gentoo alot. Port >  AUR, Alot of the wiki contains links to gentoo wiki pages and such.
[20:18] <JosephHarrietha> ports*
[20:18] <ZeitFight> Im trying to boot from a live-cd. At startup when I choose to boot the live cd it starts up my Ubuntu os that is on my harddrive instead of booting the cd. hmm im confused..
[20:19] <reisio> well it's more recent, only natural
[20:19] <reisio> Arch has a better wiki, though, because Gentoo still doesn't have an official one
[20:19]  * reisio rolls eyes
[20:19] <Maccer> Bah, what the hell is this dkms bunk that I have to download?
[20:19] <bekks> reisio: Gentoo has.
[20:19] <reisio> bekks: nope
[20:20] <Felix72> ZeitFight, did u check your BIOS bootup settings?
[20:20] <bekks> reisio: Dont lie please. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page
[20:20] <bekks> There it is.
[20:20] <trism> Maccer: dkms automatically rebuilds kernel modules when a new kernel is installed
[20:20] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, not btrfs. I do have windows partitions, but they are ntfs
[20:20] <JosephHarrietha> resisio, When I was a gentoo user... I remember other distro's would always talk about the great gentoo wiki... But now alot of it is out-of=date.
[20:20] <reisio> bekks: that domain has nothing to do with the Gentoo foundation
[20:20] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, whats your ubuntu partition?
[20:20] <guntbert> bkerensa: sorry, I know nothing about Vidalia or Polipo  - with which programs do the proxy settings work? and with which not?
[20:20] <grkblood> is there a way to arrange buttons in gxmessage?
[20:20] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: yeah, it'd be more up to date if it were official, I'm sure
[20:20] <bekks> gentoo.org IS the official gentoo domain...
[20:20] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, /dev/sda1: UUID="a588e4e5-5ded-4209-9fe9-5c4c001702b2" TYPE="ext4
[20:20] <reisio> bekks: and gentoo-wiki.com != gentoo.org
[20:20] <bekks> reisio: Then read my link again.
[20:21] <bekks> And THEN start the discussion...
[20:21] <reisio> oh neat
[20:21] <Galvatron> ZeitFight: First chceck the boot settings in BIOS, then try another bootable CD.
[20:21] <reisio> now it just needs content
[20:22] <NlessKnight> Darn.  I was about to make a joke about having to compile the gentoo wiki yourself.
[20:22] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, Yea,  Unfortunately I don't have time anymore... Arch, Gentoo even slack and chakra are simply too time consuming. I need a system I can depend on... and here I am *sigh*
[20:22] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: nobody forces you to compile all the time with Gentoo
[20:23] <ZeitFight> Galvatron: Felix72: I have EFI
[20:23] <JosephHarrietha> javier_, Hmm... okay, well to the best of my knowledge... I'm stumpted. Maybe someone else has a better idea.
[20:23] <guntbert> reisio: please stop that gentoo talk here
[20:23] <Zoloka> Hu all
[20:23] <LemonAid> Does anyone have any alternative to Unetbootin ? Something with a command line interface. Think similarly to "mplayer".
[20:23] <Zoloka> *Hi
[20:23] <reisio> guntbert: I merely respond to what is put to me
[20:23] <Maccer> Where could I download dkms 2.1 or higher as an offline package?\
[20:24] <danes> ello, how can I add a task bar in the new ubuntu distribution? I kinda like the look but if I could have a task bar it would be better
[20:24] <robin0800> Felix72, there is this simple-lightdm-manager_0.2-public7_all.deb
[20:24] <javier_> JosephHarrietha, jeje, ok :) Thanks anyway
[20:25] <elgaton> Maccer: use en.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <JosephHarrietha> reisio, In arch its all binaries... Still setting up the system, keeping it updates, dealing with little issues and general entrophy build-up just lead me to spend 2 hours fixing arch before I could even use it.
[20:25] <LemonAid> danes: choose a classic interface at login. Last i checked that worked best.
[20:25] <reisio> JosephHarrietha: there's no fixing in Gentoo IME, only waiting for compiles to finish, compiles that you can delay starting for as long as you like
[20:25] <trism> Maccer: packages.ubuntu.com , you'll also want to get the linux-headers package for your running kernel, since dkms will need it to build the module
[20:26] <llutz> LemonAid: newer *buntu-iso are hybrid-iso, so you can just use cat/dd to transfer them from cli
[20:27] <LongRender> Hi All
[20:27] <Zoloka> Hi
[20:27] <Zoloka> Anyone from here go to #PHP?
[20:29] <Maccer> I can't find a linux-headers off-line .deb anywhere, also dkms says "dependency not satisfiable, patch." Tris
[20:29] <LemonAid> llutz, thank you, pointed me in the right way :)
[20:29] <Maccer> *trism
[20:29] <LongRender> I have a question about 3D apps running on Unity. I can't drag blender from one monitor to the other. I'm using Xinierma. Any though. Help would be very much appericiated
[20:29] <guntbert> Zoloka: the channel is ##php and you need to be registered to speak there
[20:29] <Zoloka> Yeah how do i do that??
[20:29] <llutz> !register | Zoloka
[20:30] <Zoloka> thanks i was looking it up :O
[20:30] <Zoloka> http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/mirc.html
[20:30] <Zoloka> ><
[20:30] <FloodBot1> Zoloka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <Zoloka> sorry
[20:30] <Felix72> robin0800, thanks for the tip. I installed Ubuntu Tweak to change the background. :) what i meant regarding GDM themes for instance http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Avio-GDM?content=37395
[20:30] <Zoloka> can't people send something bad with pastebin though?
[20:31] <llutz> Zoloka: sure they can, but they won't flood the channel :)
[20:31] <trism> Maccer: it means you'll need to download the deb for the patch package too, and I'll find the linux-headers package if you give me: uname -a;
[20:31] <Felix72> robin0800, but don't worry about it. I'll work on the later
[20:33] <Maccer> trism: Linux 3.0.0-12-generic #20 ubuntu x86_64
[20:33] <Zoloka> !register | Zoloka
[20:33] <Zoloka> with / woops :S
[20:34] <trism> Maccer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/linux-headers-3.0.0-12
[20:35] <trism> Maccer: you may need the amd64 package here too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic
[20:35] <Felix72> can someone recommend an IRC chat. am currently using xchat (Gnome)
[20:36] <Zoloka> Felix Mirc
[20:36] <Zoloka> Is what i use :)
[20:36] <xangua> !irc | Felix72
[20:37] <Felix72> oh, the good old Mirc :) how could i forget that. used that when i was using windows yet.
[20:37] <guntbert> Felix72: if you are asking about an irc client, I suggest switching to xchat -- xchat gnome is very limited indeed
[20:38] <gry2> Felix72: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_IRC_clients
[20:38] <ChibiTan> Just upgraded to 11.10 and can't run Kildclient. Running in Terminal brings up "error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Checked Synaptic, I have libperl 5.12 installed. Tried reinstalling Kildclient from the software center, same error. Any ideas?
[20:38] <Felix72> ok, i give them a try and see what i like.  Thanks guys :) Well, I start to liek this channel :)
[20:39] <francesco_> !list
[20:42] <chaospsychex> is there a command to see which WM i am using ?
[20:42] <Glifdoro> Hi, I am trying to set up SVN on my server. When I do a sudo apt-get install subversion libapache2-svn, I get an error that states "Package subversion is not available, but is referred to by another package." How do I fix this? Thanks.
[20:43] <Maccer> trism:  Looks like the software center is taking a while to open or analyze the package.  Any other way I can install it?  Sigh, linux driver support. :(
[20:43] <bitter> finder.gr
[20:43] <jrib> Glifdoro: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again
[20:43] <reisio> chaospsychex: pgrep -l utter
[20:43] <elgaton> Glifdoro: Strage since the package is available. Try to do "sudo apt-get update".
[20:44] <trism> Maccer: you can install them from the command line with: sudo dpkg -i *.deb; (once you navigate to the directory with the files)
[20:46] <chaospsychex> reisio: does nothing
[20:46] <Glifdoro> jrib / elgaton yup that did the trick, thanks!
[20:46] <Glifdoro> uptime
[20:46] <Glifdoro> oops
[20:47] <Besnikk> Hi does ubuntu 11.10 have gnome 2.x ?
[20:48] <w30> man pgrep
[20:48] <reisio> Besnikk: it does not
[20:49] <reisio> chaospsychex: pgrep -l compiz
[20:49] <Besnikk> reisio: Could tell me the link of Ubunt u10.10 Live version ?
[20:49] <xangua> Besnikk: google ubuntu 10.10
[20:49] <reisio> Besnikk: actually 10.04 will be supported longer than 10.10, would you like that instead?
[20:50] <Besnikk> reisio: I like the Ubuntu fonts and 10.04 doesn't have them right ?
[20:50] <reisio> Besnikk: that I don't know
[20:50] <jstoone> Hey guys, I've got a /storage partition mounted by itself, is it possible to make my ~/Downloads ~/Pictures etc. symbolic links? So if firefox saves something in ~/Downloads it actually saves it in /storage/downloads ?
[20:50] <reisio> Besnikk: I guess that's true
[20:51] <reisio> Besnikk: ftp://releases.ubuntu.com.ba/ubuntu/releases/10.10/
[20:51] <Besnikk> reisio: thanks
[20:52] <reisio> np
[20:52] <jstoone> Posted above, anyone?
[20:52] <reisio> jstoone: I'm a one
[20:52] <Felix72> gotta go (uninstalling xchat gnome), cu guys
[20:53] <maestrojed> Is there a program that would allow me to control an ubuntu box with the keyboard and mouse on another system? Like VNC sans the video?
[20:53] <reisio> maestrojed: synergy
[20:53] <eSoul> mkdir /storage/downloads and then ln -s /storage/downloads ~/Downloads
[20:54] <maestrojed> reisio thank you. I just looked at that but thought it was OSX only.
[20:54] <xangua> (14:50:26) Besnikk: reisio: I like the Ubuntu fonts and 10.04 doesn't have them right ? - you can google ubuntu fonts and download them reisio
[20:54] <reisio> maestrojed: runs on everything
[20:54] <reisio> maestrojed: makes it that much more neat, no?
[20:54] <jstoone> eSoul: Really? That easy?... I must be kidding myself ;) hehe, thanks a lot, I'll try it out!
[20:54] <reisio> xangua: I considered telling him that, but invariably getting the same setup as 10.10 would be quite complex
[20:54] <eSoul> and make sure ~/Downloads doesnt exist already
[20:55] <eSoul> Yeah, it should be that straight forwared
[20:55] <eSoul> *forward
[20:55] <jstoone> eSoul: ~/Downloads is there by default ;)
[20:55] <eSoul> but delete it before you try to make the symbolic link
[20:56] <jstoone> oh..
[20:56] <Maccer> trism: I'm sorry for bugging you, and thanks for all the help by the way, but where the hell do I find a proper dkms .deb?  This one depends on some patch.  Being ethernet and ssh-less is a bitch
[20:56] <jstoone> Yea.. it just made the SymLink inside of the Folder ;)
[20:56] <eSoul> haha, yup
[20:57] <trism> Maccer: it depends on the ubuntu package called patch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/patch
[20:58] <jstoone> eSoul: You saved my day!
[20:58] <Maccer> Oh, it literally depends on something called 'patch', heh.
[20:59] <eSoul> good to know jstoone, thanks, heh
[21:00] <Kosova> Hello guys which one should I choose 10.04 or 10.10 I don't want the new ones, 10.10 has newer software than 10.04 right ?
[21:00] <bekks> Kosova: Yes. But 10.04 is a LTS version. Long Term Support.
[21:02] <Kosova> bekks: I need it for my laptop LTS are more for servers I think
[21:02] <bekks> Kosova: Depends on how lobng you want to use it... 10.10 is supported until April 2012.
[21:04] <Kosova> bekks: that's more than enough lol
[21:05] <Flannel> Kosova: That's only six more months
[21:06] <strix_> Kosova: get 11.10, unity is not so bad, is decent actually
[21:06] <ChrisWere> Hey Guys. I've set up a *nix social networking site. It's designed a bit like twitter/facebook but for Linux users. I spent quite a long time on it. Anyone who wants to visit can go to www.nixpak.com
[21:07] <xangua> ChrisWere: please no spam
[21:07] <Kosova> strix_: I tried it it freezes :S, I have an old llaptop thinkpad T43 with 1 gig of ram
[21:07] <ChrisWere> sorry not inteded as spam, i just wanted to show off a project
[21:08] <EvilResistance> !advertisement | ChrisWere
[21:08] <cbart> is there a program that records video that can switch between the webcam and recording the desktop during a recording?
[21:08] <EvilResistance> grah
[21:08] <EvilResistance> ChrisWere:  its not advised to advertise stuff here
[21:08] <ChrisWere> wow guys no need to be so rude I wasn't adertising, just wanted to show off some work i've been up to
[21:09] <Maccer> trism:  Thanks for the help.  Ultimately the driver ended up failing and making ubuntu not see any network possibilities (as opposed to connections) and now I'm thinking I should just buy a network card that's linux friendly.
[21:09] <Maccer> Stupid Marvell
[21:09] <Flannel> ChrisWere: No worries.  Just please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, we prefer to keep this channel support only.  Thanks.
[21:09] <ChrisWere> thanks
[21:09] <ddelony> I've been having problems logging into AIM with Empathy that seem to have started after the update to 3.2.0.1
[21:10] <trism> Maccer: sorry to here that, wish I could help further but I am not familiar with that card
[21:10] <cbart> or records using the webcam and records the desktop simultaneously?
[21:11] <jstoone> cbart: You could use recordMyDesktop-gtk and Cheese
[21:12] <jstoone> cbart: So you record your desktop (it also capures sound) and then have a webcam program open as well (maybe on another workspace).
[21:12] <cbart> i was hoping to get the webcam recording and the desktop recording on the same video feed.
[21:13] <Amphoras> I'm trying to change the size of my main partition. Tried to use gparted from ubuntu, but it wouldn't let me unmount the partition. I tried creating a usb drive with it on it following the first method here http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php but it just boots to ubuntu. I looked in the bios and it showed removable disks as the first option. are there any guides on other methods I could try?
[21:13] <jstoone> cbart: OR if you're very structured then record your desktop and samutaniously use Cheese or whatever (google it) and then cut it together?
[21:13] <bekks> Amphoras: removable devices are different from USB devices. Unless your BIOS does not support that, you have no chance.
[21:14] <jstoone> There is some way in "OpenShot" I think it's called (featured in Software Center) that can put your webcam video in the corner of your video?
[21:14] <jstoone> !*
[21:14] <cbart> openshot?
[21:14] <cbart> i'll check it out
[21:14] <cbart> thanks
[21:15] <Amphoras> bekks: thanks, I will see if I can find a cd and try from that
[21:16] <jstoone> Amphoras: dunno what bios it is, and manifacturer, but some BIOS list USB's as HDD's. So if you can change the HDD priority then you have it.
[21:16] <jstoone> cbart: No problem! Doing video tutorials?
[21:17] <cbart> kind of. I want to create a vlog of my attempts at creating my own personal web framework
[21:17] <jstoone> cbart: Wow, that's great! Youtube?
[21:18] <cbart> eventually
[21:18] <Amphoras> jstoone: I don't know either, its running on a VM
[21:18] <jstoone> cbart: I even think that openshot has a "Upload to YouTube" function!
[21:19] <cbart> nice! I hope I can figure out the splicing without too much trouble. I'll let you know what happens
[21:20] <jstoone> cbart: I messaged you, please write back
[21:21] <fellayaboy> what does cron do?
[21:22] <fellayaboy> im looking at the man but i dont understand very well
[21:23] <Guest34922> my unity is crashed I cant able to see the dash ,panel,status menu etc ..I purged unity and reinstalled it but no luck ....please help
[21:24] <strix_> fellayaboy: it executes tasks/scripts/jobs at specific time
[21:25] <xangua> Guest34922: try to reset it: unity --reset
[21:25] <macram> Guest34922, do you see lightdm?
[21:26] <fellayaboy> strix so thats basically all it does?
[21:26] <aaronh5> how do i change where new windows open? is that controlled by compiz? they default to the top left..
[21:26] <Guest34922> macram: yeah I can able to use the gnome-shell and ubuntu 2d with no bugs
[21:26] <macram> Guest34922, my Unity 3D got fucked up when i tried to set up my nine virtual desktops
[21:26] <strix_> fellayaboy: yes
[21:26] <Guest34922> xangua, I tried but no luck it still have the same issue
[21:27] <macram> Guest34922, do you have ccsm installed?
[21:27] <Guest34922> macram, yeah I have !
[21:27] <fellayaboy> ok thanks
[21:28] <macram> Guest34922, check if Unity plugin is enabled.
[21:28] <Guest34922> macram, when I add new user It works perfect !!
[21:28] <jsebean> hello
[21:29] <DJredstar> hi, i was having trouble scrobbling with Last.fm in banshee
[21:30] <mattylovesyou> Hey everybody I have an annoying problem
[21:30] <DJredstar> i know the streaming feature costs money, but i didnt think scrobbling did
[21:30] <mattylovesyou> I installed xfce on 11.10, so when i log out and choose to use it, everytime i shut down and restart i am back in unity
[21:31] <mattylovesyou> how do i make xfce my default desktop session?
[21:31] <macram> Guest34922, so the trouble is with your user profile
[21:31] <jsebean> I have an Ubuntu 10.04 server (VPS) it has two cores. When I open top (using command), two or three times per minute one of the CPUs will show 100% us usage. I am noticing nothing wrong and the website i'm hosting is not that active. Also none of the "top" processes show more usage than 2% at a time. I installed htop and it never shows 100% CPU usage. Any ideas whats going on? Am i using a lot of CPU or is top lieing and why?
[21:31] <Guest34922> macram,  that plugin is enabled and I can login via unity-3d but  there is no panel ,dash  like stuffs was not showind when I click the position of the status menu I can see the status menu
[21:32] <tauren> Guest34922: i'm having the exact problem
[21:32] <DJredstar> hi, i cant figure out how to scrobble with Last.fm in banshee. The help guides werent helpful
[21:32] <macram> Guest34922, if you know where Unity configuration is stored you can try deleting it, so you would force Unity to create a new profile
[21:33] <sandertje> i've got something weird
[21:33] <Guest34922> macram, It all happends when I add a video at startup using xwinwrap
[21:33] <jsebean> I have an Ubuntu 10.04 server (VPS) it has two cores. When I open top (using command), two or three times per minute one of the CPUs will show 100% us usage. I am noticing nothing wrong and the website i'm hosting is not that active. Also none of the "top" processes show more usage than 2% at a time. I installed htop and it never shows 100% CPU usage. Any ideas whats going on? Am i using a lot of CPU or is top lieing and why?
[21:33] <DJredstar> can anyone help DJ?
[21:33] <sandertje> i use Spotify, for which wine is required
[21:33] <Pumpkin-> jsebean: CPU use on top and the like on VM's can be wildly inaccurate, if some other VM runs off with the CPU. I only trust relative values in virtualised environments.
[21:33] <bark> i can't see any wireless networks from nm-applet even though i have installed the linux drivers for my RTL8192E and rebooted
[21:33] <jsebean> Pumpkin-: relative values?
[21:34] <sandertje> when Spotify runs (under wine), the wine-server connects to all sorts of foreign telecom providers (i can see this in firestarter)... anyone an idea as to why?
[21:34] <DJredstar> bark: do you have Wifi disabled?
[21:34] <bark> DJredstar, i selected "enable wireless" in the menu
[21:34] <steinjakob> Just installed Ubuntu for first time trying to edit sources.list (to install spotify) but find that i dont have access. Cant figure out how to change permissions. Could someone help? Thanks
[21:34] <maestrojed> sandertje there is a linux version of spotify, you don't need wine
[21:34] <Pumpkin-> yeah, like if some process is using twice as much CPU as something else, averaged over a long period of time, I'll trust that to be true.
[21:34] <Pumpkin-> but even then ...
[21:35] <macram> steinjakob, run in a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) the following command: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:35] <Pumpkin-> I dunno, I just don't trust top at all when you virtualise things
[21:35] <|Anthony|> use ps -faux
[21:35] <maestrojed> sandertje http://www.spotify.com/us/download/previews/
[21:35] <DJredstar> bark: ok, try logging in and out again, for some reason nm-applet doesnt have a scan feature
[21:35] <jsebean> Pumpkin-: ok so it's ok if i ignore it? My VPS host has said nothing to me so it doesnt seem to be that big of an issue lol
[21:35] <sandertje> maestrojed: but then still... why would it connect to foreign telecom companies?
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> sandertje: Sa10236406@nepwk.comotify runs under Linux, ok
[21:36] <bark> DJredstar, i also tried manually entering the ssid and passphrase
[21:36] <uid069-42-31-41-> I am having trouble installing webcam-server
[21:36] <DJredstar> oh
[21:36] <templet> is a 1.7ghz athlon with 2GB of memory good enough to run lucid ?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> sandertje: spotify runs under Linux, ok
[21:36] <steinjakob> macram: thanks could you pls explains what sudo and gedit means?
[21:36] <macram> templet, it a great machine :)
[21:36] <templet> macram, thank you
[21:36] <guntbert> macram: please recommend gksudo with graphical apps (instead of sudo)
[21:36] <Guest34922> macram: I used all these commands in this page but still got stuck wid that !! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872211
[21:36] <DJredstar> bark: i usually have to log in and out again for it to find new networks
[21:36] <macram> steinjakob, sudo will run the following command with root rights, gedit is the software you'll use to edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:36] <|Anthony|> gedit: text editor
[21:37] <macram> guntbert, that's true, i will do it :)
[21:37] <maestrojed> sandertje I have no idea. Spotify is a UK company….
[21:37] <Guest34922> tauren, Did u got any Idea about that
[21:37] <steinjakob> macram, got you. thanks so much!
[21:37] <uid069-42-31-41-> I am having trouble installing webcam-server I get a Unable to locate package on a sudo apt-get install webcam-server... HELP!?
[21:37] <guntbert> steinjakob: use gksudo instead of sudo
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> sandertje: http://www.linux-depot.com/?p=guides&s=spotify
[21:38] <ddelony> Is anybody else having problems logging into AIM on Empathy?
[21:38] <steinjakob> guntbert, what is difference?
[21:38] <macram> ddelony, who else uses AIM? :P
[21:38] <guntbert> !gksudo | steinjakob
[21:38] <|Anthony|> guntbert, he should do that IF he uses F2 instead of terminal
[21:38] <macram> steinjakob, gksudo is graphic, sudo is terminal-only. gksudo is better :)
[21:38] <tauren> Guest34922: not yet. logging in with 2d works. but logging in with the default session just gives a blank desktop, no icons, no menus, not even a right click context menu.
[21:39] <sandertje> maestrojed: it was connecting to norwegian, spanish, and UK ISPs and providers. I am Dutch, so that doesnt make sense
[21:39] <guntbert> |Anthony|: no, the target app matters, not the method of invocation
[21:39] <root__> buenas alguien habla español
[21:39] <macram> sandertje, spotify is a P2P software :)
[21:39] <macram> root__ Please go to #ubuntu-es
[21:39] <steinjakob> Great thanks all!
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> !es| root__
[21:39] <|Anthony|> i know if i run sudo gedit i have no issues
[21:39] <Guest34922> tauren, when I add new user It works prefect !!
[21:39] <maestrojed> sandertje why do you care?
[21:40] <tauren> Guest34922: do you know where the config files are for unity?
[21:40] <uid069-42-31-41-> I am having problems installing webcam-server... can someone help?
[21:40] <sandertje> macram: ah, i didnt know that yet...
[21:40] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, it would be better if you tell us your issues
[21:40] <Guest34922> tauren, check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872211
[21:40] <tauren> Guest34922: good to know...
[21:40] <guntbert> !wfm > |Anthony|
[21:41] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: I cant install the apt package "webcam-server"
[21:41] <sandertje> maestrojed: because that probably means they are datamining and selling my (possibly private) information to companies.
[21:41] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, http://webcamserver.sourceforge.net/
[21:42] <maestrojed> sandertje and providing you access to all the music in the world for $10. I say "Deal!" :)
[21:42] <kandinski> can anybody please help me recover the standard ubuntu unity look? thanks! This is what my desktop looks like right now:  http://imgur.com/4IUM6
[21:42] <macram> sandertje, ubuntu uses peer-to-peer, not only streamingç
[21:42] <DJredstar> hey, can anyone help me with scrobbling in banshee? i cant figure it out
[21:42] <macram> sandertje, i said 'spotify', not ubuntu
[21:42] <sveinse> I think I've found a bug in qemu in natty. Now, before I go about to report this as a bug in LP, and the fact that it's fixed in oneiric, is there any support/updates for natty at all?
[21:42] <kandinski> I have tried using gnome-tweak-tool to recover the Ambience theme, to no avail
[21:43] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: no, I want to install it from the ubntu repo like I have been doing forever... but for some reason it seems to think its missing
[21:43] <maestrojed> $
[21:43] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, webcam-server IS missing from oneiric repos
[21:43] <maestrojed> whoops, sorry
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> kandinski: have you checked gnome-look.org?
[21:43] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ok, how do I get it back?
[21:43] <sandertje> maestrojed: less.. €5/month :P
[21:43] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, searching :)
[21:44] <maestrojed> sandertje OMG!! I'd give em DNA! :)
[21:44] <DJredstar> how do you use Last.fm scrobbling in banshee? I found out how to use streaming, but im not a paying subsrciber
[21:44] <sandertje> LOOL
[21:45] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: dude you dont need to be rude like that, I dont know how the apt thing works, and talking down to me is not helping
[21:45] <maestrojed> Anyone use the Cairo dock? I removed the gnome panel just playing around. How can I get it back?
[21:45] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, i'm not being rude, sorry if you thought that. Please gimme a minute :)
[21:45] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ok, thank you
[21:46] <DJredstar> can no one help me?
[21:46] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, whoa, webcam-server was last-seen in hardy
[21:46] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ok... and... do I need to install something into apt?
[21:47] <sandertje> maestrojed: and the linux version seems a lot LOUDER than the wine thing.... I just almost destroyed my ears :P
[21:47] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, i'm trying to find you a ppa repo so you can add it to apt and install as you did before
[21:47] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: thanks man!
[21:48] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, ubuntu version?
[21:48] <w30> kandinski, I remember Ambience from search themes in the search box in synaptic
[21:48] <tauren> Guest34922: sweet, creating a new user does work. now, how do copy the new user's unity config over my original user's config?
[21:48] <DJredstar> can someone help me with Last.fm scrobling in banshee? I cant figure out how to do it.
[21:48] <DJredstar> I read the help manual, but it didnt help me. I already authorized for banshee.
[21:48] <macram> DJredstar, try removing that authorization (or however it's written ;) ) and adding it again
[21:49] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: I have no idea... latest?
[21:49] <DJredstar> ok macram
[21:49] <maestrojed> sandertje Yeah the Linux Preview's Volume can go to 11 instead of just 10.
[21:49] <guntbert> uid069-42-31-41-: post the output of lsb_release -a
[21:49] <macram> what command is used to show the linux version in the terminal?
[21:50] <macram> (i'm spanish, sorry for my bad english)
[21:50] <Pici> macram: lsb_release -a
[21:50] <uid069-42-31-41-> No LSB modules are available.
[21:50] <uid069-42-31-41-> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[21:50] <uid069-42-31-41-> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[21:50] <uid069-42-31-41-> Release:	11.10
[21:50] <uid069-42-31-41-> Codename:	oneiric
[21:50] <FloodBot1> uid069-42-31-41-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:50] <macram> Pici, THANKS
[21:50] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, so you use the latest version of ubuntu
[21:50] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: yep
[21:51] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, the worse option: here you have the binaries of webcam-server, from debian
[21:51] <macram> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/w/webcam-server/
[21:51] <tttflexguy> anybody wanna talk about U server 11 and cloud/ IT infrastructur ?
[21:51] <Cbterra> #ubuntu-games
[21:51] <macram> BUT you will need to update that software on your own
[21:52] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ok thats not going to work, when are they going to get it back in the normal repo? is there a bug submitted?
[21:52] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, perhaps they're not going to get it back in the normal repo
[21:52] <macram> try enabling universe
[21:52] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ???
[21:53] <ddelony> I solved my AIM login by comparing the login information on another machine and finding the address had been fat-fingered. :-p
[21:53] <guntbert> !info fswebcam | uid069-42-31-41-   have a look at at that
[21:54] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, software sources (Ubuntu Software Center, Edit menu)
[21:54] <macram> then sudo apt-get update
[21:54] <macram> (apt-get update after you enable universe, i mean)
[21:54] <uid069-42-31-41-> fswebcam? how does one broadcast the feed?
[21:55] <DJredstar> macram: ok, so i de and reauthorized banshee, now what? i dont see any controls
[21:55] <DJredstar> to scrobble my personal library.
[21:55] <macram> DJredstar, what do you mean 'scrobble'?
[21:55] <macram> scrobbling is sending to last.fm (in this case) the songs you listen as you're listening it
[21:56] <macram> you don't 'upload' your library info to last.fm
[21:56] <DJredstar> marcam: i meant play the songs from my library
[21:57] <macram> DJredstar, play the songs from your last.fm library?
[21:57] <DJredstar> yes, rhythmbox let me do that, but it was last year
[21:57] <blueadept2> what's the best way of getting rid of the launch on the side bar?
[21:58] <blueadept2> if ubuntu calls this a design feature, then what the hell
[21:58] <DJredstar> marcam, is that supposed to be not allowed any more?
[21:59] <macram> DJredstar, you need to enable the last.fm radio plugin in banshee :)
[21:59] <Pici> blueadept2: Choose a different desktop environment.  Thats the main feature of unity.
[21:59] <macram> i can't give you info step-by-step because i just uninstalled banshee, but you'll get it
[22:00] <DJredstar> macram: i did that, but isnt it for paying subscribers?
[22:00] <DJredstar> i got that error
[22:00] <macram> DJredstar, oh, that's true, last.fm radio is for subscribers
[22:00] <macram> so
[22:00] <macram> what do you want to play then?
[22:00] <uid069-42-31-41-> ubuntu needs to work on its stability... its like apps get support and then they go away... this is the 5th app I have come across its annoying
[22:01] <DJredstar> well actually i installed a Last.fm app, and it lets me play radio, so i take it thats not fully
[22:01] <DJredstar> legall?
[22:01] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, well, your app (webcam-server) is in the last Long Time Support release
[22:01] <macram> DJredstar, i don't know, i only scrobble my playings to last.fm, i use spotify
[22:02] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ok so how do I install that?
[22:02] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, you need to install lucid, ehm... :P
[22:02] <Jonii> Hey, is it common that there is a significant lag between clicking a window and that window activating, for Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:02] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: so dont update when it asks me to update?
[22:02] <macram> Jonii, let me guess, you have an ATI card, right?
[22:03] <Jonii> I don't know
[22:03] <DJredstar> macram: oh, u can still play your library radio for free in a browser, but i think that they
[22:03] <Jonii> It's a netbook. I could check
[22:03] <DJredstar> started charging for streaming with 3rd party stuff
[22:03] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, Lucid won't ask you to update until Precise Pangolin
[22:03] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: I am confused???
[22:03] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: what?? thats not true at all
[22:03] <aman> hi all. my tweet deck doesn't launch tried reinstalling no good. plz help!
[22:04] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, lucid lets you choose to upgrade to maverick or to upgrade when pangolin is launched
[22:04] <DJredstar> i heard they changed the API's, so banshee followed, but some programs didnt, so thats
[22:04] <DJredstar> how mine works
[22:04] <macram> lts releases can be updated from lts to lts
[22:04] <blueadept2> Pici: at least we should have the option to move it
[22:04] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, you configure that in software sources
[22:04] <Jonii> macram: how do I check which card do I have?
[22:04] <DJredstar> ok thanks macram
[22:04] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: again thats not true at all, at least it was not for me
[22:04] <blueadept2> Pici: i dont see why it has to be locked in the right hand side
[22:05] <macram> Jonii, lspci in a terminal
[22:05] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: what? dude I am not fallowing what is going on here!?
[22:05] <chaos_> yo
[22:05] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, well, your app is not in any repo for ubuntu oneiric
[22:05] <macram> so
[22:05] <macram> you can choose
[22:05] <macram> install the software on your own (from the .deb from Debian pool)
[22:05] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: I choose to have my app.. how do I do that?
[22:06] <Jonii> macram, everything listed there is by Intel
[22:06] <macram> Jonii, then I don't know. I own a ATI/AMD graphics card and it's CRAP
[22:07] <chaos_> Gskellig: from the puget sound ay?
[22:07] <Gskellig> chaos_, how do you know
[22:07] <Gskellig> chaos_, yes =D
[22:07] <oslo> je cherche des français
[22:07] <chaos_> magic lol
[22:08] <blueadept2> anyone know how to go back in firefox on ubuntu?
[22:08] <blueadept2> i've tried the usual combinations but nothing is working
[22:09] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, you need to go th the URL i sent you before
[22:09] <blueadept2> backspace doesn't work, alt+backspace no work, window, control combo + backspace doesn't work either
[22:09] <strix_> oslo: /j #ubuntu-fr
[22:09] <macram> download the .deb for your architecture (or i386 if you're not sure)
[22:09] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, and install it (just double-click)
[22:10] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, if you don't have the dependencies installed the installer will tell you, then you install them with apt-get, synaptic or whatever you use
[22:10] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ok... this sucks though, is there a way to prevent this bs moving forward?
[22:10] <Jonii> So, any guesses? Also, I've tried this Ubuntu 11.10 for a day now, and there have been several windows that have refused to close, and some menus that didn't open when I clicked them
[22:10] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, i don't know :(
[22:10] <oslo> thank you strix
[22:10] <tttflexguy> anybody wanna talk about Ubuntu server 11 and cloud/ IT infrastructur ?
[22:12] <chaos_> anyone know where i can find a server to play with
[22:12] <chaos_> i cant find one
[22:13] <Gskellig> chaos_, what are you looking for?
[22:14] <chaos_> ubottu, send me your phone number
[22:14] <Gskellig> chaos_, and you know I'm from puget sound by my hostmask. tukw.qwest is tukwilla qwest
[22:14] <pdq> blueadept2, alt + left arrow
[22:14] <chaos_> yes Gskellig you are correct lol you are the same as mine so you stood out
[22:15] <chaos_> im out in shelton btw
[22:15] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: nope that bombs out
[22:16] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, then i don't know what can we do, mate, perhaps the project has been deprecated :S
[22:16] <chaos_> i just wanna have some fun and do something fun. my network, well lets just say i built it so not many secrets
[22:16] <Gskellig> chaos_, I'm smack dab in the middle of seattle
[22:16] <Gskellig> chaos_, if you're on irc in the seattle area you should check out #/r/seattle
[22:16] <Guest47566> alguem do brasil ae?
[22:17] <EgyParadox> !bf
[22:17] <EgyParadox> !br
[22:17] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: ok so... what is the webcam broadcast app that is replaceing it?
[22:18] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, did you see "webcam" package?
[22:19] <ark3qqq> I'm booted in the 11.10 live CD (via USB). fdisk sees my hard drive, but the installer doesn't. What do I do?
[22:19] <empire> HELO
[22:19] <bekks> ark3qqq: Did you try the alternate install cd?
[22:20] <ark3qqq> bekks: Nope. That would be my fallback option, I guess.
[22:20] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: nope I want a broadcast not an image upload
[22:20] <wwwd> I am trying to set up a dual monitor in ubuntu 10.04. Configure Display Device offers three options "Disabled", "Separate X screen", and "TwinView". What is the difference between "Separate X screen" and "TwinView"?
[22:20] <ark3qqq> Still, it seems strange the installer doesn't that which fdisk et al see clearly.
[22:20] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, video broadcast or snaps?
[22:20] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: broadcast please
[22:21] <bekks> ark3qqq: That would be a valid try :)
[22:21] <ardian> I have a question, can I get the mirror list of 11.10 and change it with my 10.10 ?
[22:23] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, you can use VLC! http://scottlinux.com/2010/06/29/stream-webcam-with-vlc/
[22:23] <ark3qqq> Maybe I'll just try rebooting first. This is just silly.
[22:24] <chaos_> exit
[22:24] <chaos_> fuck
[22:25] <noahnoah> Hello.
[22:26] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: give me a minute
[22:26] <noahnoah> I am running a new install of 11.10.   Wanted to get the proper drivers for my NVidia card, so I just used their driver install tool.  Now, when I reboot the box, I get a black screen.  I can ssh in, but can't get the main screen to respond.  Did I completely kill my system, or is there a way to put things back??
[22:26] <fellayaboy> why is it that i have to go to a website to get my external ip address rather than using a commandline interface that will figure it out for me???
[22:27] <llutz> fellayaboy: are you directly connected to the internet without router etc? then ifconfig should show your external ip. if not, theres no easy way from LAN to get your external-IP
[22:27] <ardian> can I get the mirror list of 11.10 and change it with my 10.10 ?
[22:27] <bekks> fellayaboy: Then get the statis page of your router using wget or curl, make some sed/awk magic, an grab your external IP.
[22:27] <fellayaboy> llutz why is that
[22:28] <fellayaboy> yeah thats true bekks
[22:28] <llutz> fellayaboy: if you use a router, its an external system. how should your local.system know its settings?
[22:28] <puff> mneptok: you around?
[22:28] <Guest97440>  hi
[22:29] <noahnoah> anyone?
[22:29] <Guest97440> ??
[22:29] <Guest97440> i'm rirght here
[22:29] <jen_> can someone walk me through how to make a virtualbox? I have the iso and I tried to make one myself but failed D:
[22:29] <Guest97440> welcome
[22:29] <fellayaboy> llutz it makes sense to me now
[22:29] <Guest97440> lol
[22:29] <eoly> noahnoah it is recoverable probably
[22:30] <bekks> jen_: Thats perfectly documented on www.virtualbox.org - the do have a pretty good manual.
[22:30] <noahnoah> @eoly.  I agree.  Just not sure where to start.  Since I can SSH in, should be able to fix the drivers/config but don't know what to look for
[22:30] <maestrojed> alright, I messed things up. Using an app call Cairo Dock, I removed the gnome panel. I have been trying to add it back. I followed this tip http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-howto-recover-gnome-panel.html which says to delete .gconf, .gconfd,.gnome (I moved them instead of deleting them). But now the GUI is broke/locks up. I put the originals files back but the problem persists
[22:30] <Guest80021> Can anyone help me with my ASUS PCE-N15 on ubuntu 10.04? it isn't detected
[22:31] <macram> Guest80021, what is not detected?
[22:31] <eoly> noahnoah: You should start by booting into recover mode
 the card itself
[22:31] <fellayaboy> but just as if my pc was connected with no router....isnt that info within the router and isnt their a command to retrieve that fromt he router???
[22:31] <eoly> noahnoah: Befor grub menu appears hold down shift key
[22:31] <bekks> fellayaboy: No.
[22:31] <noahnoah> @eoly, will try now.
[22:32] <llutz> fellayaboy: depends on your router.
[22:32] <macram> Guest80021, I thought it was a laptop ;)
[22:32] <fellayaboy> my router doesnt know its own ip address from the isp?
[22:32] <bekks> fellayaboy: You have to script it yourself, since there are zillions of different routers out there.
[22:32] <jen_> bekks, thanks maybe I can figure it out
[22:32] <eoly> noahnoah: holding shift will actually bring up grub menu. then choose recovery mode.
[22:32] <fellayaboy> i see
[22:32] <noahnoah> got it
[22:32] <Guest97440> welcome
[22:32] <eoly> noahnoah: should get you into a working root prompt where you can revert drivers
[22:32] <macram> Guest80021, try lspci
[22:32] <GooeY> hi, all. If i installed Ubuntu using the Wubi, is it possible to access my windows files from Ubuntu?
[22:32] <noahnoah> rebooting now...
[22:32] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: i am having trouble getting that to work
[22:32] <Guest97440> what?
[22:32] <eoly> ok
[22:32] <fellayaboy> i guess theirs no universal protocol for that feature
[22:32] <Guest97440> sudo apt-get install
[22:32] <llutz> fellayaboy: thats why asking whatismyip.com is easier in most cases :)
[22:32] <bekks> fellayaboy: No, there isnt.
[22:33] <fellayaboy> right llutz
 how do I use that?
[22:33] <Guest97440> use what
[22:33] <eoly> noahnoah: what nvidia card do you have?
[22:33] <Guest97440> nvidia sucks
[22:33] <Guest97440> get an ATI
[22:33] <bekks> LOL
[22:33] <Guest97440> (sucks for linux)
[22:33] <noahnoah> Geoforce with 260
[22:33] <eoly> Guest97440: that will solve everything...
[22:33] <Guest97440> not for overall development
[22:33] <noahnoah> Need to eventually do some CUDA work
[22:33] <macram> Guest80021, Applications -> Accesories -> Terminal
[22:33] <maestrojed> fellayaboy http://www.whatismyip.org/ (instead of .com) returns only the IP. No html markup. You could easily write a script to query it
[22:33] <ardian> Can I change the mirror list of 10.10 to 11.10 ? at /etc/apt/source.list ?
 got it
[22:34] <bekks> ardian: Thats not supported so far. You have to update to 11.04 first.
[22:34] <noahnoah> OK.  Booted into recovery.  Just a black screen :(
[22:34] <jen_> ....I need someone to walk me through virtualbox
[22:34] <uid069-42-31-41-> macram: I am getting a vlc: unknown option or missing mandatory argument `--v4l-vdev=/dev/video'
[22:34] <fellayaboy> iright maestrojed ive seen a bunch of scripts but it just boogles me...
[22:34] <noahnoah> Can't ssh :(
[22:34] <eoly> noahnoah: hmmm
[22:34] <noahnoah> I do have install CD.
[22:34] <bekks> jen_: The vbox manual does that very good. Even with pictures.
[22:34] <macram> uid069-42-31-41-, i can't help you because i don't own a webcam in my computer :S
[22:35] <eoly> noahnoah: ok maybe you will have to do this via ssh then
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/729505/
[22:35] <noahnoah> Worst case, I could just re-install OS, but would hate to.
[22:35] <ardian> bekks: I don't want to upgrade the system only the software packages
[22:35] <fellayaboy> confuses me really...makes me feel a bit powerless that i cant find my own external ip address...the router should have that info and their should be a command but i guess its some kind of properitary system holding it back
[22:35] <macram> *facepalm*
[22:35] <bekks> ardian: Thats not possible.
[22:35] <noahnoah> In a perfect world, I'd love to get the correct NVidia driver working so I can use Cuda, etc..   But for now, just happy to get box back up.
[22:35] <uid069-42-31-41-> ok when i run vlc "v4l2://" --v4l-vdev="/dev/video" --v4l-adev="/dev/null" --sout #transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=256}:standard{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=:1234}" -I dummy it blows up... HELP!?
[22:35] <fellayaboy> thanks guys
[22:35] <bekks> ardian: Either you update the system (kernel, etc.) and all packages - or you dont.
[22:35] <noahnoah> So, what do I do at the SSH prompt.
[22:35] <eoly> noahnoah: what i would recommend trying is sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-96 && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[22:35] <ardian> bekks: ahh :\
[22:35] <ardian> thanks
[22:36] <puff> Anybody know about doing dual-boot installs?
[22:36] <eoly> noahnoah: helped me out at least
[22:36] <noahnoah> @eoly.  Nice!  Will try that as soon as I reboot
[22:36] <eoly> noahnoah: had a very similar problem
[22:36] <macram> puff, google does
[22:36] <eoly> noahnoah: good luck
[22:36] <puff> I'm installing 11.10 alongside 10.4 LTS, I have two 20GB root partitions and I want them to share /home partition.
[22:36] <fellayaboy> so would a hacker attack one specific pc within a NAT router
[22:36] <noahnoah> Nvidia had a command line driver install that I used.  Hope apt recognizes it.  Will let you guys know in a few minutes.
[22:36] <noahnoah> @fellaboy:  Do you have a port forwarded to that machine?
[22:37] <bekks> fellayaboy: If he/she has a good reason - yes. But thats totally offtopic to ubuntu.
[22:37] <fellayaboy> say i wanted to hack my laptop thru my external ip address and then hack at my pc rather than my laptop, ipod android etc
[22:37] <fellayaboy> bekks right i was just wondering sorry about that
[22:37] <iceroot> fellayaboy: please do a research what "hacking" means
[22:38] <Guest80021> Can anyone help me with my ASUS PCE-N15 on ubuntu 10.04? it isn't detected
[22:38] <macram> Guest80021, did you do the lspci?
[22:38] <fellayaboy> iceroot exploitation
[22:38] <noahnoah> @eoly:  remove says that driver not installed.  install nvidia-current is already newest version.
[22:38] <chris_is_me> fellayaboy: you ever figure out your ip
[22:38] <fellayaboy> what channel could i discuss networking
[22:38] <noahnoah> @felaboy.  It is also possible that you have a trojan that opened a reverse port to your laptop.  (Common technique to get through NAT, etc.)
 yes, i posted it http://paste.ubuntu.com/729505/
[22:39] <fellayaboy> chris_is_me i know my ip address
[22:39] <bigone> i am having an issue with drivers .... i am vming backtrack 5 and using a usb wifi card. when I ifconfig wlan0 down and bring it back up i have an error
[22:39] <iceroot> !backtrack | bigone
[22:39] <bigone> o ok
[22:39] <macram> Guest80021, well, you're right, your card is not detected :)
[22:40] <bigone> well then i have a question about blacklist.conf file .... can you explain that to me
 any idea on how to fix that?
[22:40] <Guest97440> what thhe..
[22:40] <macram> Guest80021, perhaps it's not connected as it must be
[22:40] <Guest97440> how old are you guys?
 it defanatly is, i did a live boot with 11.10 and it worked
[22:41] <chris_is_me> Guest80021: 192
[22:41] <puff> I'm using the alternate install CD, with advanced manual partitioning.  It displays all of the existing partitions (incluidng the extra 20GB root partition I created earlier) with no mount point.  Do I specify a mount point for the existing /home partition or do I only specify the mount point for the new / partition?
[22:41] <macram> Guest80021, and your installed version is...?
 10.04
[22:41] <bekks> puff: You have to decide that on your own.
[22:42] <puff> bekks: ?
[22:42] <puff> bekks: That answer makes no sense.
[22:42] <bekks> puff: If you want to use your old /home, you have to define a mountpoint, and mount it there
[22:42] <bekks> puff: I'm sorry for writing that slow ;)
[22:43] <puff> bekks: Yeah, but do I do that _during_ the install, or do it later?
[22:43] <GooeY> hi, all. If i installed Ubuntu using the Wubi, is it possible to access my windows files from Ubuntu?
[22:44] <guest-9flqLG> helo every body
[22:44] <bekks> puff: During.
[22:44] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do change the password user between login
[22:44] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do change the password user between login
[22:44] <Guest80021> Goooey yes,//host
[22:44] <fellayaboy> the reason i ask all this was because i usually ssh into my house PC via my android phone..and of course u just use ur username@externalip. but what if i had a laptop and a pc with the same usernames and password...what would happen then?
[22:44] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do login root in tty between login username
[22:44] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do login root in tty between login username
[22:44] <puff> bekks: Okay.
[22:44] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do change the password user between login
[22:45] <bekks> fellayaboy: ssh username@hostname.
[22:45] <bekks> fellayaboy: There is no question at that point anymore.
[22:45] <GooeY> guest80021, how do i do it? I'm a beginner at this
 what version of ubuntu?
[22:45] <fellayaboy> hostname?
[22:45] <GooeY> 11.10
[22:45] <bekks> fellayaboy: The "name" of your computer.
[22:46] <llutz> fellayaboy: you use different ports to connect
[22:46] <Nfisher> Hi all! i want to rip some internet-radio-stream.. now id love to create a playlist for the consecutive songs ive ripped, since they are blending together on the stream.. how can i do that? streamripper does seem to not offer this option (at least in its Linux-Version it doesnt).. at least ive found nothing in the man...?
[22:46] <fellayaboy> how do i find out my hostname
 go to the home folder and select filesystem from the side and then find the host folder, that will take you to the windows c drive, from there you probobly wnat documents and settings
[22:47] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do change the password user between login
[22:47] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do login root in tty between login username
[22:47] <maestrojed> I have messed up my gnome. I could use some help. I can ssh to the box. I tried removing the ~/.gnome2 & ~/.gconf & ~/.gconfd files and rebooting, Those files are recreated but the problem persists.
[22:47] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do change the password user between login
[22:47] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do login root in tty between login username
[22:47] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do login root in tty between login username
[22:47] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do login root in tty between login username
[22:47] <FloodBot1> guest-9flqLG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <llutz> fellayaboy: routers portforwarding like WAN:2200 -> LAN-Desktop:22, WAN:2201 ->LAN-laptop:22
[22:47] <jen_> ....I need someone to walk me through virtualbox
[22:47] <bekks> jen_: Whats wrong with the official manual ?
[22:47] <fellayaboy> llutz hmmm
[22:47] <jen_> bekks, I just need help on a certain spot >.<
[22:47] <fellayaboy> llutz i see
[22:48] <GooeY> guest80021,  that was way too easy. Thanks!
[22:48] <bekks> jen_: Then just ask about that certain spot.
[22:48] <sheeps_> hi, I ran update-manager and now one of my machines is refusing DNS over its wired network config, I assume it's a package conflict problem, but I'm not sure where to start looking?
[22:48] <jen_> bekks,  okay so I have it set, but I need to go into settings for something and pick my iso, but when I try that it isnt there
[22:48] <Guest80021> Gooey, no problem... but you cant acsess ubuntu from windows without a seprate partition or using a usb
[22:49] <bekks> jen_: "settings for something"? Be more precise.
[22:49] <GooeY> ok thanks.
[22:49] <zerothisd> where can I get cwiid/wminput/wiican help on irc?
[22:50] <jen_> bekks,  settings for virtualbox
[22:50] <bekks> jen_: You have to be even more precise. Where exactly in the seetings are you trying to do what exactly?
[22:51] <jen_> bekks,  ahhh nevermind, I will wait for my friend to get on ^^"
[22:52] <Guest80021> Can anyone help me compile a wireless driver? (ubuntu 10.04
[22:52] <fellayaboy> bekks i would have had to setup a dyndns at a website to set up the hostname?  if i changed my host name right now to ubuntu.mypc.mebaby, using terminal: hostname ubuntu.mypc.mebaby and from an external pc typed in ssh username@ubuntu.mypc.mebaby it will find me?
[22:52] <gnome-xchat>  /server irc.dal.net 6667
[22:53] <gnome-xchat> :(
[22:53] <gnome-xchat> my first time here
[22:53] <sheeps_> hi, I ran update-manager and now one of my machines is refusing to use the manual config for DNS over its wired ethernet, I assume it's a package conflict problem, but I'm not sure where to start looking?
[22:53] <bekks> fellayaboy: No.
[22:54] <llutz> sheeps_: how did you set dns?
[22:54] <scottj> what does "The following packages have bene kept back" mean in apt?
[22:55] <maestrojed> My box is not booting to a screen that is a default ubuntu background, I see the mouse cursor. But nothing works. This happened when playing around with gnome settings. Any debug suggestions.
[22:55] <sheeps_> llutz: I have it set manually to 192.168.2.1 (my router), I also set the ip address to 192.168.2.3 (which works)
[22:55] <llutz> sheeps_: how did you set dns?
[22:55] <llutz> sheeps_: interfaces, networkmanager?
[22:56] <m477> how to evaluate which window manager im using right now?
[22:56] <sheeps_> llutz: I used the edit connections menu item
[22:56] <heyou> hello
[22:56] <guest-9flqLG> how can i do login root in tty between login username
[22:56] <reisio> m477: why do you ask
[22:56] <reisio> guest-9flqLG: you're meant to login as a user and use sudo
[22:57] <bekks> guest-9flqLG: root isnt supposed to log in. Use sudo.
[22:57] <usr13_> guest-9flqLG: What exactly are you trying to do?
[22:57] <usr13_> guest-9flqLG: In ubuntu, we use sudo instead of initiating an actual root login.
[22:58] <fellayaboy> so then using username@hostname will not work if i have 2 machines with the same username and passwords
[22:58] <fellayaboy> or is it username@hostname@externalipaddress?
[22:58] <guest-9flqLG> FloatingBot1, ????????????????????????????????
[22:58] <EvilResistance> guest-9flqLG:  please dont abuse the question mark.
[22:58] <EvilResistance> !root | guest-9flqLG
[22:58] <reisio> fellayaboy: the hostname takes the place of the IP, when all is configured to do so
[22:58] <bekks> fellayaboy: No.
[22:58] <heyou> i am having trouble getting the latest version image file to make a bootable cd. tried 3 times and it no work. anyone experience this?
[22:58] <sheeps_> llutz: if I go to system settings and click on the network icon I get a list of wired and wireless settings, but I can't edit anything with it
[22:58] <reisio> fellayaboy: having the same user on two boxes shouldn't matter
[22:58] <llutz> fellayaboy: use externalip or setup a dyndns-account to use an hostname from extern
[22:58] <bekks> fellayaboy: ssh user@hostname still applies. whatever hostname might be from an external location.
[22:58] <m477> reisio: i want to check if i turned off compiz
[22:59] <reisio> m477: pgrep -l compiz
[22:59] <usr13_> guest-9flqLG: Works fine.  (you'll get used to it)
[22:59] <usr13_> guest-9flqLG: It's a pretty good system.  You'll see.
[22:59] <Guest80021> Can anyone help me compile a driver?
[22:59] <fellayaboy> right well so far i see that usign dyndns and changing the port will work
[22:59] <m477> reisio: 1661 compiz thats mean not
[22:59] <reisio> Guest80021: what driver
[22:59] <reisio> m477: that means compiz is running
[22:59] <fellayaboy> ok thanks
[23:00] <reisio> m477: probably in the X session you are currently using
[23:00] <bekks> hi DreamThief
 a wifi card on, i have the files i dont know commands though
[23:00] <reisio> Guest80021: which card?
[23:00] <m477> reisio: in tweak ubuntu i turned it off ...
[23:00] <gry2> How do I add current input locale indicator to Gnome3? It only shows a keyboard icon but not the locale code (eg. 'en', 'fr') after the upgrade to 11.10.
 ASUS PCE-N15
[23:00] <reisio> m477: did you log out and back in?
[23:00] <maestrojed> The core of ubuntu is running, I can ssh in. But the GUI is locked up. Is there a log or something I could look at to tell were the problem is?
[23:00] <usr13_> Guest80021:  What does lspci say about your wireless card?
[23:00] <m477> reisio: i dont remember
[23:01] <guest-9flqLG> ubottu, thanks
[23:01] <reisio> m477: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
 it dosent show up
[23:01] <russruss> hi everyone, i seem to accidentally locked myself out of both su and sudo on my remote machine
[23:01] <m477> reisio: 10.04
[23:01] <usr13_> Guest80021: Really? Is this a laptop?
[23:01] <reisio> m477: you can probably run killall compiz and metacity --replace
 no, it's my custom pc
[23:02] <delerium> Update Manager fails to find pkg. Here's one example out of about 20 Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cups/libcups2_1.5.0-8ubuntu3_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.184 80] But I was able to find the file in my browser. What gives?
[23:02] <russruss> my /etc/sudoers is owned by my username somehow
[23:02] <m477> reisio: it wouldnt crash system?
[23:02] <Guest80021> usr13_: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320074
[23:02] <russruss> it says "/etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1003, should be 0"
[23:02] <usr13_> Guest80021: lspci | pastebinit #Send us the URL
[23:02] <japro> anyone doing screencasts to streaming sites on ubuntu? i'm looking for other solutions that ffmpeg since the framerate gets limited by something which i cannot figure out
[23:03] <russruss> does anyone know how i did that? and then how to fix that?
[23:03] <llutz> russruss: time to get the live-cd  if you don't have a spare root-session opened
[23:03] <reisio> m477: it shouldn't, no
[23:03] <reisio> m477: window managers manage windows
[23:03] <Guest80021> usr13_ already did this XD lemmie find the link
[23:03] <russruss> sadly no spare root-session…and it's on a remote machine
[23:03] <reisio> m477: even if you turn them all off, everything will be there, you just won't be able to manage a window until you turn one back on :p
[23:03] <Guest80021> usr13_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/729505/
[23:04] <m477> reisio: ok i did it but, i dont have prompt after metacity --replace
[23:04] <tsar> hey
[23:04] <m477> reisio: i mean it is working...
[23:04] <reisio> m477: should probably run it from an ALT+F2
[23:04] <tsar> how to run whatsapp on ubuntu?
[23:04] <vercing> anyone here familiar with ubuntu 11.10?
[23:05] <m477> reisio: great thanks
[23:05] <reisio> tsar: with some difficulty, I suspect
[23:05] <Guest80021> usr13_: are you here?
[23:05] <reisio> vercing: taking a poll?
[23:05] <reisio> m477: and hopefully next time you log out or reboot it will respect your pref of not using compiz
[23:05] <usr13_> Guest80021: Yes... reading...
[23:05] <sheeps_> llutz: if I go to system settings and click on the network icon I get a list of wired and wireless settings, but I can't edit anything with it
[23:06] <okee> I reinstalled Win 7 and ubuntu, but can still only boot into Ubuntu through recovery mode.  A message comes back indicating that the hardware clock was fixed.  How do I rectify this?
[23:06] <tsar> reisio : ok what is the steps
[23:06] <llutz> sheeps_: righclick on the networkmanager-applet, edit connection
[23:06] <reisio> okee: rectify what?
[23:06] <vercing> no, just that my empty waste basket crashed had to shut down whole pc and restart, any ideas?
[23:07] <borisd>  /ignore -regexp -pattern "is (away|gone|back)" * ACTIONS
  i used ( usermod -p miad miadbahrami )
 and now can't login with my password
 and i coud not login root with tty
 to change password user
 with passwd
[23:07] <FloodBot1> guest-9flqLG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <Sir_Ragnarok_> Anyone know where I van find /good/ documentation about Perl(CGI) on apache configuration? (Ubuntu server)
[23:07] <okee> I only get a purple screen when trying to run Ubuntu in regular mode.  I have to run through recovery mode to get ti to boot, and when it runs through recovery mode, the OS indicates the hardware clock was fixed..  How do I fix the hardware clock so that this error doesn't keep popping up?
[23:08] <guest-9flqLG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/729532/
[23:08] <guest-9flqLG> http://paste.ubuntu.com/729532/
[23:08] <Jonii> Okay, this is kinda annoying, most programs I've tried to run on this 11.10 have serious lag issues, with seemingly simple actions taking over ten seconds, frequently, occasionally minutes
[23:08] <sheeps_> llutz: it offers me two wired networking items, and says neither of them have ever been used
[23:08] <EvilResistance> !repeat | guest-9flqLG
[23:09] <vercing> no, just that my empty waste basket crashed had to shut down whole pc and restart, any ideas?
[23:09] <usr13_> Guest80021: Well, looks like it must be the, "Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8178 (rev 01)
[23:09] <okee> Is anyone able to get Ubuntu to work in normal mode?  I can only get it to boot through the recovery option.
[23:10] <Jonii> Say, I chose to maximize the size of emacs window. It's still going on. Before that, I clicked on left docky-like thing on this irssi-terminal, and it took around 5 seconds to actually change the focus
[23:10] <Guest80021> usr13_: http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Adapters/PCEN15/#download its supported for ubuntu i just need to compile and install
[23:10] <usr13_> Guest80021: ... unless it already has to Ethernet Cards...?
[23:10] <guest-9flqLG> EvilResistance, thanks
[23:11] <Guest80021> usr13_:no, only the integrated one and thw wifi card...
[23:11] <edd_> hi i cant find list of outputs for my graphic card, anyone know how to list these ?
[23:12] <bekks> edd_: What are you looking for?
[23:12] <dr3mro> hello ihave ubuntu and i want to get list of files on my system that are not on the apt-get .. that means installed but without apt like compiled or any file created on my system and not in apt
[23:13] <edd_> when im trying add
[23:13] <edd_> root@edd-ubuntu:/home/edd# xrandr --addmode VGA 1680x1050_60.00
[23:13] <edd_> i got
[23:13] <reisio> dr3mro: you'd have to diff a list of all files and the output of dpkg -L for each package
[23:13] <edd_> xrandr: cannot find output "VGA"
[23:14] <delerium> Update Manager fails to find pkg. Here's one example out of about 20 Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cups/libcups2_1.5.0-8ubuntu3_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.184 80]
[23:14] <dr3mro> reisio, I want a more automated method to check my system for files that aren't on apt
[23:14] <delerium> But I can find the file in my browser. What gives?
[23:14] <reisio> dr3mro: there should be nothing on your system that didn't come from apt except for files in /home/, and files you personally put places
[23:15] <Guest80021> usr13_: any idea's?
[23:15] <reisio> dr3mro: to be completely sure you'd need to use something like AIDE, but you would need to have been using it from immediately after your installation for it to be full proof
[23:15] <Myrtti> guest-9flqLG: FloodBots are bots, just like their name suggests. Please have patience and ask your question here in the channel instead in pm with anyone. And don't repeat it too often or flood the channel.
[23:16] <usr13_> Guest80021:
[23:16] <usr13_> http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=11&s=1&m=PCE-N15&os=&hashedid=CqoqKk8GIW3PRlJJ
[23:16] <dr3mro> let's consider there is files put there by third party debs and never uninstalled completely
[23:16] <reisio> dr3mro: you'd have to determine the files from the deb, or do a diff as I already explained
[23:16] <Guest80021> usr13_: ?
[23:17] <dr3mro> reisio, how to list files in all packages on my system ?
[23:17] <Guest80021> usr13_: i found that... i dont know hot to install it though
[23:18] <reisio> dr3mro: the only way I know of is to loop dpkg -L for every result of dpkg -l (lowercase l there)
[23:18] <reisio> dr3mro: someone else might know a better way
[23:19] <schnuffle> dr3mro: http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/linux/dpkg-cheat-sheet.php should give you te right command dpkg -c <package name> lists the files of a packages, combined with dpkg -l and awk you get the list you need
[23:20] <schnuffle> Oops it's dpkg -L for the file list
[23:21] <reisio> in short what I just said
[23:21] <okee> reisio>  Does Ubuntu only boot through the recovery mode?
[23:22] <reisio> okee: no
[23:22] <reisio> okee: somewhere in the middle of all your constant reinstalling, you confused something
[23:22] <reisio> it was only a matter of time
[23:22] <schnuffle> dr3mro: dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -L take care it will be a long list
[23:22] <maestrojed> Since I fudged up gnome, and can find a way to reset it. What are my options. Do I have to reinstall/recover Ubuntu?
[23:22] <okee> So you think I should format the drive?
[23:22] <okee> I don't think the option came up in win 7
[23:23] <reisio> I think instead of reinstalling two OSes every time something goes wrong, you should just fix the problem at hand
[23:23] <IsmFail> After installing ubuntu 11.10 from liveCD, now the install won't boot - it gets stuck after printing "Checking battery state... [OK]"
[23:23] <okee> What is the problem?
[23:23] <Jonii> anyone know about ubuntu having serious freeze issues
[23:23] <reisio> maestrojed: you should be able to reinstall the packages with their default configs, but you'll have to ask the channel for how
[23:24] <Guest80021> Johnii: when dose it happen?
[23:24] <reisio> maestrojed: if it starts okay as a different user, it's a config file in your user's ~/ that's to blame
[23:24] <maestrojed> reisio what channel? I thought this was the channel
[23:24] <reisio> maestrojed: this channel: that is: don't put my nick before your question
[23:24] <dr3mro> schnuffle, not working dpkg-query: error: package name in specifier 'Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend' is illegal: character `=' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[23:24] <Guest80021> Johnii: when dose it happen?
[23:25] <maestrojed> there is only one user on the machine. Can I create a second test acount using the CLI? CLI works.
[23:25] <schnuffle> dr3mro: just tested it, maybe a typo?
[23:25] <schnuffle> dr3mro: dpkg -l works?
[23:26] <dr3mro> schnuffle, dr3mro: dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -L .. give error
[23:26] <reisio> maestrojed: yes, with useradd
[23:26] <reisio> maestrojed: or you might prefer adduser
[23:26] <maestrojed> I will give it a whirl
[23:26] <Jonii> Guest80021: say, I want to resize a program window, or want to focus a program window, or stuff like that
[23:27] <Jonii> So I click or drag or whatever, and then I might have to wait up to infinity for the action to actually be performed
[23:27] <schnuffle> dr3mro: so test one by one. first check if dpkg -l lists akk the packages with info , then check dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' if that shows you only the package name
[23:27] <LarsN> are there any recent guides for power tuning ubuntu 11.10 for notebooks?
[23:28] <dr3mro> schnuffle, the error is due to the 1st 4 lines on list contains no packag names but just ++--
[23:28] <Guest80021> Johnii: it could be your system... or ubuntu has common issues with sound and other communication devices... what are your pc's specs?
[23:28] <zxiest[a]> Hey guys =) Does anybody know how I can execute a command upon root login? something like a bash_profile for root?
[23:29] <reisio> zxiest[a]: .bash_profile
[23:29] <Jonii> Acer Aspire 1410
[23:29] <gry2> As I asked earlier, how do I add current input locale indicator in 11.10? It only shows a keyboard icon but not the locale code itself. I am using Gnome 3 in fallback mode.
[23:29] <zxiest[a]> reisio where would it be located? ? /.bash_profile?
[23:29] <Nooox> how i can get a cloack
[23:29] <reisio> zxiest[a]: if you're root, yes, ~/.bash_profile
[23:29] <Guest80021>  Jonii: ok, gimme a few
[23:29] <gry2> zxiest[a], ~/.bash_profile
[23:29] <bekks> zxiest[a]: /root/.bash_profile
[23:29] <schnuffle> dr3mro: okay the try following: dpkg -l | grep -e ^ii | -awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -L take care it will be a long list
[23:30] <LarsN> Nooox: I believe you need to ask in #help unless you're looking for an ubuntu cloak, in which case I have no idea.
[23:30] <zxiest> thank you guys :-) gry2 and bekks
[23:30] <reisio> schnuffle: he's going to need a copy to diff and play with
[23:30] <schnuffle> reisio: then he'll tell me and we'll sort it out :)
[23:31] <reisio> thought I'd save you some time, carry on
[23:31] <Guest80021> Jonii: what versiopn of ubuntu?
[23:31] <Nooox> LarsN> thanks
[23:31] <schnuffle> dr3mro:  small type use:  dpkg -l | grep -e ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -L
[23:31] <Jonii> 11.10
[23:32] <schnuffle> reisio: thanx for the hint anyway
[23:32] <dr3mro> schnuffle, thnx but i fixed it by sed '1,5'd .. thnx
[23:32] <Guest80021> Jonii: have you had ubuntu on it 4 a while?
[23:32] <reisio> o-ho, a sed knower :p
[23:32] <schnuffle> dr3mro: what are you trying to do? check if you system is compromised?
[23:33] <Jonii> almost 2 days
[23:33] <schnuffle> reisio: he knows sed and asks me how to do some console foo? strange :)
[23:33] <reisio> that's what she sed
[23:33] <neededinghelp> hello all
[23:33] <dr3mro> schnuffle, yes .. i used debsums to check my files but i need to get list of files outside apt :)
[23:34] <neededinghelp> can someone help with install
[23:34] <Guest80021> Jonii: ok, my BEST GUESS is that you have issues with your graphics... my recomendation is to get a ubuntu 10.04 live cd boot it and seee if the problems persist...
[23:34] <schnuffle> dr3mro: then lets hope you find nothing compromised
[23:34] <neededinghelp> have installed rebooted get message out of disk then grub rescue>
[23:34] <reisio> neededinghelp: 'out of disk'?
[23:34] <Guest80021> Jonii: the reason for this is because ubuntu 11.10 is based entirly on 3d graphics with unity
[23:34] <neededinghelp> yep
[23:35] <bekks> neededinghelp: "out of disk _space_"?
[23:35] <Azkickah> hello
[23:35] <Azkickah> Does Anyone know how to add Sources to the apt-get list
[23:35] <Azkickah> >
[23:35] <Azkickah> ?
[23:35] <FloodBot1> Azkickah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <Jonii> Guest80021: oh, that's nasty :<
[23:35] <dr3mro> schnuffle, thnx
[23:35] <x7> IRC
[23:35] <neededinghelp> no just says error: out of disk.
[23:35] <benaoudan> salut
[23:35] <Jonii> So I should've used 10.4 instead of 11.10?
[23:35] <schnuffle> Azkickah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[23:36] <neededinghelp> then next line is grub rescue>
[23:36] <Azkickah> ty mate!
[23:36] <schnuffle> Azkickah: your welcome
[23:36] <Guest80021> Jonii: it will test and possibly confirm my susspissions... look for the hardware driver application and see if your graphics card is enabled
[23:36] <Guest97440> how
[23:37] <Jonii> My graphics card is listed on system info as "unknown"
[23:37] <reisio> neededinghelp: http://www.dudek.org/blog/220
[23:37] <neededinghelp> thanks
[23:37] <maestrojed> Can I switch which user the gui is logged in as using SSH?
[23:37] <Guest80021> Jonii: sorry.. i have to go... ubuntu 10.04 should work then... or you can try to get it working find the card version and go form there
[23:38] <bekks> maestrojed: No. But you can switch it after entering your name in the login manager, prior to clicking "ok" then.
[23:38] <neededinghelp> hmmm ok bois is latest ...
[23:38] <neededinghelp> clean disk install
[23:39] <schnuffle> neededinghelp: how big is your disk, how many partitions have you on that disk, how many disks have you in your PC?
[23:39] <reisio> !update
[23:40] <neededinghelp> one disk two primary partitions
[23:40] <neededinghelp> 160gb before format
[23:40] <neededinghelp> used 1gb swap rest install
[23:41] <sheeps_> llutz: right-clicking and choosing edit connection offers me two wired networking items, and says neither of them have ever been used
[23:41] <maestrojed> bekks ok, thx
[23:41] <schnuffle> neededinghelp: okay so an older PC. From what I read it's a grub problem that doesn't recognize the correct drive
[23:42] <neededinghelp> im unsure just installed but did select root of /sda for install of grub
[23:42] <eSoul> im needing some help building a kernel module, I have the modules source and Makefile, but make is telling me I dont have the kernel source installed (maybe?) and linux-source and linux-headers are installed and up to date
[23:43] <schnuffle> neededinghelp: it seems to be a problem with older Bios versions that have a problem with LBA. Does the BIOS shows the correct drive size during boot?
[23:44] <neededinghelp> as far as im aware was runnung xp on n o problems
[23:44] <neededinghelp> took of started with clean disk
[23:44] <schnuffle> neededinghelp: I solution coudl be to creat a extra /boot partition ( size 200MB-1GB)
[23:44] <Guest97440> admin@kryis.com
[23:45] <schnuffle> neededinghelp: how old is your PC?
[23:46] <neededinghelp> ow its an old one dell c400
[23:46] <neededinghelp> igb ram
[23:46] <neededinghelp> i830m graphics
[23:47] <schnuffle> neededinghelp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477430
[23:48] <neededinghelp> reading ....
[23:50] <ryan_46> schnuffle: When you have a long terminal output as in ( dpkg -l | grep -e ^ii | awk '{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -L) how do you make it so that you can see all the results?
[23:51] <maestrojed> Can I add a program to auto start using CLI? Do I just create an symlink in ~/.config/autostart?
[23:51] <burner> can anyone help me get unity working?  when I pick unity 2d, it works fine.  When i pick unity, it just starts nautilus
[23:52] <HulkHogan> maestrojed: make a .desktop file there
[23:52] <schnuffle> ryan: use | less at the end or write the output to a file with > file
[23:52] <burner> i have no launcher and i have no top bar
[23:52] <ryan_46> Thanks schn
[23:52] <maestrojed> HulkHogan How do I make a .desktop file.
[23:53] <ryan_46> Thanks schnuffle:)
[23:53] <maestrojed> HulkHogan I should probably google that
[23:53] <burner> maestrojed: example .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
[23:53] <burner> copy/paste works too
[23:53] <maestrojed> burner sweet, thx
[23:54] <schnuffle> ryan_46: for redirection: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[23:55] <maestrojed> ls -al
[23:55] <maestrojed> sorry
[23:55] <ryan_46> schnuffle: Will look at that. Again thanks. :)
[23:55] <HulkHogan> maestrojed: just make a copy of one thats already in there and edit it ?
[23:55] <Guest97440> stfu.
[23:55] <Guest97440> shut the f--- up.
[23:56] <scottj> Guest97440: try apt-get
[23:56] <maestrojed> HulkHogan there wasn't one :) But I am cp one from the share folder. We will see.
[23:56] <scottj> apt-get tfo Guest97440
[23:56] <pangolin> !language
[23:56] <dr3mro> hello I have an idea for a project that scan the system executables and check for files that have no record in the dpkg database and checks the exe files that in dpkg for md5sum ? can anyone help me ?
[23:56] <pangolin> Please be civil
[23:57] <schnuffle> dr3mro: ask and I'll try to help
[23:57] <reisio> dr3mro: ?
[23:57] <iceroot> dr3mro: the md5check is already in a deb-package (imo its called debian-goodies)
[23:57] <dr3mro> schnuffle, would you go private ?
[23:58] <schnuffle> dr3mro: if you want
[23:58] <NixGeek> I have an ubuntu 11.10 server that I want to send the output from VLC to the input of teamspeak so I can use it as a Teamspeak DJ/Music bot, usign the webinterface of VLC to control the bot.  The server DOES NOT have a sound card, and I don't have access to it (it's in a datacenter), any iea how I can do this?
[23:58] <dr3mro> iceroot, schnuffle reisio i am talking a bout a script  that uses all utilties avail in ubuntu to make sure the end user is safe
[23:58] <reisio> dr3mro: AIDE already does this
[23:59] <dr3mro> what is AIDE ?
[23:59] <reisio> it's AIDE
[23:59] <schnuffle> dr3mro: and tripwire is another tool
[23:59] <bekks> A security framework.
[23:59] <dr3mro> schnuffle, cool didnt know that
[23:59] <dr3mro> thnx that saved so much time
[23:59] <reisio> AIDE is the open source replacement for the now proprietary Tripwire