GridCube | So | 01:48 |
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GridCube | I'm trying to install xubuntu on my new netbook | 01:49 |
GridCube | but it doesnt recongnizes, either my wired or the wireless card :( | 01:49 |
holstein | thats not cool | 01:49 |
GridCube | no its not | 01:49 |
holstein | some HP mininote with broadcom? | 01:49 |
GridCube | and the installer just doesnt want to move on whitout a network card | 01:50 |
GridCube | no its an intel classmate | 01:50 |
holstein | oh... interesting | 01:50 |
holstein | i would just grab the alternate iso then | 01:50 |
holstein | not sure what thats about | 01:50 |
GridCube | im using the alternate is | 01:50 |
holstein | from the install, you should be able to sort it out | 01:50 |
GridCube | o | 01:50 |
holstein | hmmm | 01:50 |
holstein | GridCube: im new here... all i can suggest is work-arounds | 01:51 |
GridCube | it says just that "the installer cant go on because no network card is installled" | 01:51 |
GridCube | :) | 01:51 |
holstein | installing minimal from some other alternate iso | 01:51 |
GridCube | workarounds work | 01:51 |
holstein | and installing xubuntu-desktop when you get *some* network going | 01:51 |
GridCube | mmm | 01:51 |
holstein | GridCube: did you try the live one though? | 01:52 |
holstein | the gui installer? | 01:52 |
GridCube | nope | 01:52 |
holstein | that cant hurt | 01:52 |
GridCube | :P well i need the iso | 01:53 |
GridCube | that would take a huge lot of time | 01:53 |
* holstein wonders if theres a bug somewhere filed for that issue | 01:53 | |
holstein | GridCube: how about from that iso? the options... 'minimal install, or CLI only | 01:53 |
holstein | are those still there? | 01:53 |
GridCube | theres just cli | 01:54 |
holstein | try that | 01:54 |
holstein | same installer though... | 01:54 |
GridCube | what on earth | 02:04 |
holstein | no good? | 02:04 |
GridCube | realtek says its integrated on the kernel | 02:06 |
GridCube | support for RTL8191SE | 02:07 |
holstein | yeah, im surprised you dont have it | 02:07 |
holstein | and the installer should go past it anyways | 02:07 |
GridCube | yes | 02:07 |
GridCube | it should | 02:07 |
GridCube | i think i need a new image | 02:07 |
marion | is there a way to update the kernel? | 02:29 |
holstein | marion: i do it in the terminal | 02:31 |
holstein | ive been just installing aptitude and doing it :) | 02:31 |
Unit193 | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for terminal | 02:31 |
holstein | but the upgrad manager should do it | 02:31 |
marion | holstein im running into a problem trying to upgrade im getting a kernel panic | 02:32 |
holstein | well... maybe the package you downloaded is bad? | 02:32 |
holstein | i would reinstall the latest kernel | 02:32 |
marion | i've downloaded three all from xubuntu.org | 02:33 |
marion | how to i reinstall the latest kernel | 02:33 |
holstein | i would just do that in whatever package manager you are comfortable with | 02:33 |
holstein | i like synaptic for that ...GUI management | 02:34 |
marion | http://paste.ubuntu.com/728747/ | 02:35 |
marion | thats what happens when i do what unit193 said | 02:35 |
holstein | so you are up to date | 02:35 |
holstein | marion: run this first | 02:35 |
holstein | sudo apt-get update | 02:36 |
marion | ok thats done now what | 02:36 |
holstein | marion: run the other command again | 02:36 |
marion | same results | 02:37 |
holstein | so you are up to date | 02:37 |
marion | then why is it not letting me update | 02:37 |
holstein | there are no kernel updates available for you | 02:37 |
Unit193 | Now run uname -a | 02:38 |
holstein | marion: there are no updates to be had | 02:38 |
marion | i wanna do 11.10 | 02:38 |
holstein | marion: ? | 02:38 |
marion | right now i am on 11.04 | 02:38 |
holstein | OK | 02:38 |
marion | Linux marion-desktop 2.6.32-35-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11 15:27:15 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux | 02:38 |
holstein | http://zeeis.me/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/ | 02:39 |
holstein | i personally would just reinstall | 02:39 |
holstein | backup and reinstall fresh | 02:39 |
holstein | takes so little time to install these days | 02:40 |
marion | this is taking me down to maverik merecat. i would do that holstein but when i try to go to the installer it wont let me | 02:41 |
holstein | http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal-to-11.10-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-and-server | 02:42 |
holstein | marion: use the update tool | 02:42 |
marion | is there a way to see what distro i am on? | 02:43 |
holstein | marion: cat /etc/issue | 02:45 |
Unit193 | marion: lsb_release -r will tell you | 02:45 |
holstein | in the terminal | 02:45 |
holstein | or that ^ | 02:45 |
marion | apparently i am on 10.04 | 02:45 |
marion | i could have sworn i downloaded 11.04 | 02:46 |
Unit193 | You'd have to go 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 | 02:46 |
holstein | i would stay there til 12.04 | 02:47 |
Unit193 | ^^ | 02:47 |
holstein | that'll go 10.04 to 12.04 | 02:47 |
holstein | but, i typically just test the upgrades to see if it works | 02:47 |
holstein | and reinstall ;) | 02:47 |
marion | 12.04 will be the next long term release | 02:47 |
marion | ??? | 02:48 |
holstein | yup | 02:48 |
marion | well i am doing the maverick update now | 02:49 |
holstein | as long as you know that i suggest you dont, go for it :) | 02:49 |
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DoverOs | are all ports closed by default? | 05:12 |
well_laid_lawn | nope it's the opposite iirc | 05:13 |
DoverOs | oh ok, that's how i lik eit | 05:13 |
well_laid_lawn | that's a large accent you have there | 05:14 |
DoverOs | open source should apply to your ports too ;D | 05:14 |
well_laid_lawn | ;) | 05:14 |
DoverOs | :p | 05:14 |
well_laid_lawn | I've never had to open a port to use a service | 05:15 |
DoverOs | "scans network" wow that guy has all his ports open, better not mess with him | 05:20 |
DoverOs | i'll do that if i get my hands on a netbook | 05:26 |
uofm49426 | anyone know a way to share a hard drive partion well in xubuntu over dns | 06:06 |
uofm49426 | the drive is ntfs | 06:07 |
well_laid_lawn | dns = domain name server - that translates e.g. google.com to an ip | 06:07 |
well_laid_lawn | sharing over a local area network should be easy enough | 06:08 |
well_laid_lawn | !samba | 06:08 |
ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. | 06:08 |
uofm49426 | is everything i need already in xubuntu by default | 06:11 |
uofm49426 | it just a 53 gb partion i use to hole movie on want to share on my xbox 360 | 06:12 |
well_laid_lawn | if the share is on another comp look at gigolo | 06:12 |
well_laid_lawn | !info gigolo | 06:13 |
ubottu | gigolo (source: gigolo): frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-3 (oneiric), package size 140 kB, installed size 856 kB | 06:13 |
uofm49426 | dont want to any main drives with anything important | 06:14 |
well_laid_lawn | you should already have the samba client to connect to other comps share folders | 06:15 |
uofm49426 | i dont see it yet at xbox | 06:32 |
well_laid_lawn | did you check the samba link ^ ? | 06:35 |
uofm49426 | YES using samba server configuration drive setup /media/1e5ba2a94cbfbodo | 06:38 |
uofm49426 | permission read right visible | 06:38 |
uofm49426 | description media hard drive | 06:38 |
uofm49426 | how can i find out if it going out the right way | 06:39 |
well_laid_lawn | I don't use an xbox but found this - http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=614896 | 06:40 |
uofm49426 | wish i could get xbmc running but the natty repo is all but dont want to work | 06:43 |
uofm49426 | how about ushare | 06:48 |
uofm49426 | does ushare have a frontend gui | 06:48 |
well_laid_lawn | I don't know about ushare | 06:55 |
rlp10 | I can't find the xubuntu touchpad settings, do I need to install something? | 07:05 |
well_laid_lawn | iirc there's pointer-settings for that | 07:07 |
well_laid_lawn | !info gpointer-settings | 07:07 |
ubottu | Package gpointer-settings does not exist in oneiric | 07:07 |
well_laid_lawn | !info gpointer-settings | 07:07 |
well_laid_lawn | !info gpointer-setting | 07:07 |
ubottu | Package gpointer-setting does not exist in oneiric | 07:07 |
well_laid_lawn | bah | 07:07 |
Shirakawasuna | !info gpointing-device-settings | 07:38 |
ubottu | gpointing-device-settings (source: gpointing-device-settings): configuration tool for pointing devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-5ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 62 kB, installed size 600 kB | 07:38 |
well_laid_lawn | !info ta | 07:44 |
ubottu | Package ta does not exist in oneiric | 07:44 |
well_laid_lawn | ta | 07:44 |
rostayob | Is there a way to make the volume control well integrated with pulseaudio | 09:08 |
rostayob | Right now I have to manually use pavucontrol to mute/unmute sometimes | 09:09 |
nikolam | How to report a bug when ubuntu-bug can not find firefox? I have firefox 7 installed instead of in-distribudion one, using PPA repository for newer Firefox. | 09:25 |
nikolam | Why reporting bugs is to tight to firefox, anyway? I am on Lucid, XUbuntu 10.04 LTS 64-bit. | 09:25 |
well_laid_lawn | !ppa | 09:29 |
ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa | 09:29 |
well_laid_lawn | - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. | 09:29 |
nikolam | yes well_laid_lawn but what it have to do with reporting BUGS? | 09:30 |
nikolam | If I upgrade my browser, or use any PPA, that should not affect BUG reporting for whole OS | 09:31 |
nikolam | ubuntu-bug is misleadingly made inside to NEED firefox and not to use any other browser. | 09:32 |
nikolam | Is looks to me like unintentional vendor lock-in for Mozilla Firefox. | 09:32 |
well_laid_lawn | you're using a ppa - ubuntu doesn't fix those bugs | 09:32 |
nikolam | What if I uninstall firefox? | 09:32 |
nikolam | well_laid_lawn, well, it is not PPA bug | 09:32 |
well_laid_lawn | then you won't have the bug from what you said | 09:32 |
nikolam | Ok, I will try uninstalling Firefox | 09:32 |
nikolam | and will see how it will report a bug then. | 09:33 |
well_laid_lawn | <nikolam> How to report a bug when ubuntu-bug can not find firefox? I have firefox 7 installed instead of in-distribudion one, using PPA repository for newer Firefox. | 09:33 |
well_laid_lawn | says you used a ppa | 09:33 |
nikolam | ok, I will uninstall it. | 09:33 |
nikolam | then what | 09:33 |
well_laid_lawn | do you have a bug then? | 09:33 |
nikolam | will see after uninstalling | 09:34 |
nikolam | And its about xfce-weather-plugin stopped working yesterday not updating weather from network etc | 09:35 |
well_laid_lawn | so where does firefox come into it? | 09:41 |
nikolam | thats it. ubuntu'bug can not report bugs because it depends on firefox being installed. | 09:41 |
well_laid_lawn | ahh ok I'm with you now | 09:41 |
nikolam | if uninstalled - > no reporting bugs | 09:41 |
nikolam | So I guess i would need to install in-distribution firefox, to report bug on ubuntu-bug itself. | 09:42 |
well_laid_lawn | you'll need some sort of browser... | 09:43 |
nikolam | I guess proper way should be that ubuntu-bug should use default browser, whatever it is, in my case seamonkey (or ff7 of chromium or konqueror or opera or...) | 09:43 |
well_laid_lawn | how can they sort out bugs if ppl have who knows what app installed from some ppa? | 09:44 |
well_laid_lawn | the ppa could change so many files | 09:45 |
nikolam | Aha. but maybe it should work if there is no FF. there are other browsers in official repos, too, maybe someone does not have love on FF from repo? :) | 09:45 |
nikolam | Hmm, maybe there should be some kind of protection for main distribution, protecting files replacements from PPAs.. but that is another topic. | 09:46 |
nikolam | I personally think that reporting bugs should not be connected with choosing browser, that would be bug of mine. | 09:47 |
well_laid_lawn | if your reporting bugs in ubuntu it's fair they expect you to be using thier packages | 09:48 |
well_laid_lawn | you can report it as a bug or feature request | 09:49 |
nikolam | yes that is true. And they should not expect I use firefox. :) I will. | 09:49 |
well_laid_lawn | luck ;) | 09:49 |
nikolam | I guess better answer would be: Patch :) | 09:50 |
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nikolam | Oh, I need to find a way to report bugs alternatively. Even after installing firefox from repos, unable to report bug: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/728958/ | 10:41 |
well_laid_lawn | do you still have the ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list ? | 10:42 |
well_laid_lawn | I'm guessing that might be an issue | 10:43 |
nikolam | I diabled it. | 10:48 |
x0r | re2all | 11:40 |
x0r | i have troubles with my sound card, it didn't play | 11:40 |
x0r | since i have installed xubuntu)) | 11:41 |
x0r | what i should to do? | 11:41 |
plantoschka | hi | 11:42 |
plantoschka | all channels umuted? | 11:42 |
plantoschka | check alsamixer | 11:42 |
x0r | no, only Emu tracker don't play | 11:42 |
x0r | card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC861-VD Analog [ALC861-VD Analog] card 1: USB [E-MU Tracker Pre | USB], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] | 11:43 |
plantoschka | open a terminal and type 'alsamixer' | 11:43 |
x0r | done) | 11:44 |
x0r | and what i should to do next? | 11:44 |
plantoschka | there should be several regulators | 11:45 |
plantoschka | check that everywhere below that is 00 and not MM | 11:45 |
plantoschka | to switch press mm | 11:45 |
plantoschka | m | 11:45 |
plantoschka | brb 5 mins | 11:46 |
x0r | but how to change default sound card | 11:47 |
x0r | music does not play.. | 11:49 |
plantoschka | alsamixer | 11:53 |
plantoschka | f6 | 11:53 |
plantoschka | for system you can change default soundcard in audio settings | 11:54 |
plantoschka | or try | 11:55 |
plantoschka | asoundconf list | 11:55 |
plantoschka | asoundconf set-default-card CARD_NAME | 11:55 |
plantoschka | or check this: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5608 | 11:56 |
Xsamsung | hi does anyone know how to put the titelbar into the panel with xfce 4.8 so link in ubuntu when a window sis maximided | 11:56 |
plantoschka | Xsamsung, you mean sth like this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/how-to-enable-ubuntus-global-menu-in-xubuntu-11-10/ | 11:57 |
plantoschka | ? | 11:57 |
Xsamsung | no linke this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/maximising-screen-space-in-ubuntu/ but this dosent work | 11:58 |
Xsamsung | http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=103732&file1=103732-1.png&file2=103732-2.png&file3=103732-3.png&name=Window+Applets&PHPSESSID=3b768ad8c7346c08f008ae8433b9f534 | 11:59 |
plantoschka | well there was some kind of applet for xfce panel to use gnome2 panel-applets. don't know if that still exists | 12:01 |
x0r | plantoschka: but i haven't asoundconf | 12:09 |
x0r | which packet i should install? | 12:09 |
pahan | hello all, how to run compiz with xfce? | 12:11 |
x0r | alsa-utils is alreay installed | 12:11 |
plantoschka | x0r, : try it like this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5608 | 12:16 |
x0r | it doesn't play again =( | 12:19 |
GridCube | what doesnt? | 12:19 |
x0r | the second soundcard doesn't play | 12:20 |
GridCube | oh | 12:20 |
GridCube | that can be tricky | 12:20 |
GridCube | you do need them both? | 12:20 |
x0r | yes | 12:21 |
GridCube | both are pci? | 12:21 |
x0r | but sometimes i use microphone which is connected to the first soundcard | 12:21 |
GridCube | can you do a lspci and pastebin it? | 12:21 |
x0r | the 1st - pci , and the 2nd - usb | 12:21 |
GridCube | i see | 12:22 |
GridCube | then one lsusb and one lspci :D | 12:22 |
x0r | just a second | 12:22 |
x0r | http://pastebin.com/4MGi5tFm | 12:23 |
GridCube | ok which is the one that does not work? | 12:25 |
GridCube | the usb one? | 12:25 |
x0r | yes | 12:25 |
x0r | usb one | 12:25 |
GridCube | mmm i cant seem to recognize it on the lsusb | 12:26 |
GridCube | can you? | 12:26 |
GridCube | its the "creative technology ltd"? | 12:27 |
x0r | Bus 001 Device 009: ID 041e:3f0a Creative Technology, Ltd | 12:27 |
x0r | yes, its) | 12:27 |
GridCube | x0r, question, do you have it pluged to you usb-hub? | 12:29 |
x0r | no it's connected directly | 12:29 |
GridCube | ok | 12:29 |
GridCube | x0r, do you have pavucontrol installed? | 12:31 |
GridCube | !pavucontrol | 12:32 |
GridCube | !info pavucontrol | 12:32 |
ubottu | pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 136 kB, installed size 1024 kB | 12:32 |
x0r | installed | 12:32 |
GridCube | just checking | 12:32 |
x0r | now) | 12:32 |
x0r | good | 12:33 |
x0r | thank you, man | 12:33 |
x0r | and problem number 2 | 12:33 |
x0r | i have 2 monitors | 12:34 |
xubuntu854 | salve | 12:34 |
x0r | how i can do extend one of them | 12:34 |
GridCube | x0r, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/429642 | 12:35 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 429642 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "USB creative xmod XFI Output does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:35 |
GridCube | check that bug | 12:35 |
xubuntu854 | ho problemi all'accesso di xubuntu | 12:35 |
GridCube | x0r, i know people here have done that do not know really how | 12:35 |
GridCube | !it | xubuntu854 | 12:35 |
ubottu | xubuntu854: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 12:35 |
x0r | GridCube: what i should to install , if i want extend one of the monitor | 12:36 |
GridCube | aranrd ? | 12:36 |
GridCube | !info arandr | 12:37 |
ubottu | arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-1 (oneiric), package size 48 kB, installed size 376 kB | 12:37 |
x0r | currently they are mirror | 12:37 |
GridCube | yes, that happens | 12:37 |
GridCube | as said, people here have fixed that | 12:37 |
GridCube | not me tho :P | 12:37 |
GridCube | i just have one monitor | 12:38 |
x0r | GridCube: thank you very much) | 12:39 |
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GridCube | :) just trying to help | 12:39 |
x0r | xfce is more usefull than unity, i think | 12:41 |
GridCube | :D i think that too | 12:45 |
x0r | what does mean option - lock channels together | 12:45 |
x0r | or, i'm understand, sorry)) | 12:47 |
x0r | *oh | 12:47 |
Fudge | any idea of orca accessibility in latest xubuntu | 14:05 |
holstein | anyone running dual head? | 14:08 |
holstein | Fudge: looks like gnome-orca is in the repos for 11.10 | 14:10 |
holstein | if you need a screen reader, i might look for something that doesnt pull in a bunch of gnome stuff (assuming orca does) | 14:10 |
Fudge | oh, thanks | 14:10 |
GridCube | not really, do you want to extend your monitor instead of mirroring it holstein ? tried arandr? | 14:11 |
holstein | GridCube: so far, i just used the 'monitor' tool | 14:11 |
holstein | it mirrored, and didnt work very well | 14:12 |
holstein | i would like to do either | 14:12 |
GridCube | well try arandr | 14:12 |
holstein | i need spanned for most cases, but i do presentations from time to time as well | 14:12 |
* holstein installing... | 14:13 | |
holstein | GridCube: i have to say, it looks right... | 14:14 |
* holstein hooking up a monitor | 14:14 | |
GridCube | well, i have to see if i can install xubuntu whit the live cd, yesterday the alternate failed on me | 14:16 |
GridCube | aahg god there it went again, its with no whit GridCube | 14:17 |
holstein | GridCube: this is looking promising... thanks | 14:19 |
GridCube | no prob | 14:19 |
GridCube | yay \o/ iso downloaded creating usb | 14:30 |
holstein | GridCube: :) | 14:31 |
GridCube | ok will try it :D | 14:36 |
Guest65065 | Hi everyone, I installed chromium last nigh to replace firefox as the default. Even when I change chromium in the preferred applications menu, and selectt chrome, it asks if i want it to be the default. every time i click to set it as the default and relaunch it from the menu, a dialog comes up asking me to choose default browser. any ideas?/ i'm new to this | 14:42 |
babble | Guest65065: I've had problems with Chrome (and, in this case, I assume Chromium, as well) setting *itself* as the default browser and setting a default browser in Preferred Applictaions. | 14:43 |
babble | don't set Chromium as the default in its dialog, when it asks - tick "don't ask again" - and just set it in preferred apps | 14:43 |
Guest65065 | that won't affect it when I launch links fromm xchat for example?/ | 14:44 |
Guest65065 | actually ... http://test.com | 14:44 |
babble | no, it'll work correctly. | 14:44 |
babble | I have Chrome installed now, and links from in here open in Chrome (instead of, say, Firefox) | 14:44 |
Guest65065 | why did you go for chrome over chromium?/ | 14:44 |
babble | Guest65065: no special reason | 14:45 |
Guest65065 | babble: Hm well thanks. Perhaps you could help me with another problem. I am trying to install flash player and having performance problems with the versions I try to install?/ | 14:46 |
babble | I'm not seeing particular peformance issues with Flash over the *usual* performance issues with flash. hehe. Let me see what I have installed. | 14:47 |
holstein | Guest65065: in the 'advanced' tab over in 'session and startup' i checked the box for 'launch GNOME services at starup | 14:47 |
holstein | im not sure what setting i did made it stick... i tried a bunch of things, and apparently gnome services helped make one persistent | 14:48 |
Guest65065 | babble: This is my first linux experience and I installed a few other distributions before xubuntu. I believe it was Linux mint that had the flash package that worked best. | 14:48 |
Guest65065 | I tried the default x64 flash install and got like 10fps on a 360p video | 14:48 |
Guest65065 | then I tried this 64bit package with a 32bit wrapper or something | 14:49 |
Guest65065 | and managed to get full speed up to 720p | 14:49 |
babble | Guest65065: I have flashplugin-11.0.1.152ubuntu1 installed; that should be installing 64-bit flash, but lemme rip open the metapackage and see what it's installed. | 14:49 |
GridCube | :D | 14:51 |
GridCube | AWESOME | 14:51 |
GridCube | AWESOME! | 14:51 |
* holstein hight-fives GridCube | 14:51 | |
GridCube | livecd works! | 14:51 |
babble | okay, that's installing two things: Depends: flashplugin-downloader (>= 11.0.1.152ubuntu1), nspluginwrapper | 14:51 |
GridCube | all networks are working | 14:51 |
GridCube | touchscreen works out of the box | 14:52 |
GridCube | >:D | 14:52 |
GridCube | good bye win7 | 14:52 |
babble | Guest65065: you should have the following installed in Synaptic: flashplugin-installer, nspluginwrapper, flashplugin-downloader | 14:53 |
holstein | also, the graphics driver can effect video performance | 14:54 |
holstein | and compositing | 14:54 |
Guest65065 | Hm I don't know enough yet to understand graphics drivers etc | 14:54 |
Guest65065 | I know that upon initial install I had around 300 frames in glxgears | 14:54 |
Guest65065 | after installing fglrx | 14:55 |
holstein | Guest65065: thats the only reason i bring it up | 14:55 |
Guest65065 | i get around 2000 | 14:55 |
holstein | its not necessarily the xubuntu vs. mint | 14:55 |
Guest65065 | babble: Thanks I'm installing them al now | 14:55 |
holstein | there are different kernels, differnt graphics driver rev, and proprietary driver | 14:55 |
Guest65065 | yeah | 14:55 |
Guest65065 | it's just the performance difference is/was so drastic | 14:56 |
babble | Guest65065: flashplugin-installer is a metapackage - it will grab the other two for you | 14:56 |
holstein | AFAIK, mint provides those proprietary drivers out of the box | 14:56 |
Guest65065 | holstein: which drivers? I had to install fglrx on mint too | 14:56 |
holstein | Guest65065: whatever drivers you need... | 14:57 |
Guest65065 | holstein: I would just assume a distribution like ubuntu would be doing the same | 14:58 |
Guest65065 | Oddly enough there are a few things fixed and some broken | 14:58 |
Guest65065 | for example, i could correctly use the keyboard shortcuts to adjust volume .. on xubuntu they don't work. | 14:58 |
holstein | Guest65065: but you are not taking everything into consideration | 14:58 |
Guest65065 | holstein: I can't given how limited my experience is : p | 14:59 |
holstein | and ubuntu *cant* release proprietary blobs like mint can/does | 14:59 |
holstein | ubuntu = xubuntu so... | 14:59 |
GridCube | mmm my netbook already had 3 primary partitions | 14:59 |
Guest65065 | holstein: Aside from basic things like graphic or audio drivers ... i have no idea how or where to grab packages for things like my keyboard shortcuts | 14:59 |
holstein | Guest65065: i say, choose your battles, and take it one thing at a tie | 14:59 |
holstein | time* | 14:59 |
holstein | also, buy more linux friendly when you have the opportunity | 15:00 |
GridCube | so if i make a new primary for xubuntu i can not keep partitioning it, its safe to install a OS on a logical partition or should i ditch the win7 partitions allthogheter | 15:00 |
holstein | its a bit of a transition if you are coming from windows, but for me, now-a-days, i have a much more challenging time installing/configuring windows | 15:00 |
Guest65065 | holstein: I bought this laptop solely to install a linux distribution on it and begin learning : P | 15:01 |
Guest65065 | it's Lenovo x120e, i was told they generally have good/great compatibility | 15:01 |
holstein | GridCube: i remember getting rid of one on a netbook, and reclaiming space... there was a 'data' partition in win7 | 15:01 |
holstein | but, last reinstall i just wiped it | 15:02 |
Guest65065 | holstein: Every distribution has something working the other didn't, which makes me optimistic | 15:02 |
Guest65065 | i might have video and sound issues in xubuntu, but i don't have any random hangs or errors during my boot -- and even bluetooth works | 15:02 |
babble | Guest65065: I'm using the XFCE Volume daemon, which handles media keys in Xfce as well as notifcations for volume mounts. | 15:02 |
holstein | Guest65065: i like using live CD's for that... to see whats doing what and why... you just have to learn what to look for | 15:02 |
Guest65065 | but in linux mint, i do get random black screens and boot errors etc, | 15:02 |
babble | sec, I'll get you the exact package name. | 15:02 |
GridCube | i have main called W7OS with 300gb a Recuperation with 5g and a system with 1gb | 15:02 |
holstein | kernel versions... what pacakges are where... ALSA rev... whatever | 15:03 |
Guest65065 | it's a netbook holstein : P | 15:03 |
Guest65065 | I did try the live versions on my usb stick | 15:03 |
holstein | Guest65065: i have 4 | 15:03 |
Guest65065 | babble: Is that enabled by default ? | 15:03 |
GridCube | :> im installed on a netbook Guest65065 | 15:03 |
babble | not volume *mounts* but volume *event,* rather. | 15:03 |
babble | anyway. | 15:03 |
GridCube | installing | 15:03 |
babble | xfce4-volumed | 15:03 |
babble | it should have been but I'm running from a clean install of Xubuntu | 15:04 |
GridCube | :D the meta volume keys are working | 15:04 |
holstein | yeah... my keyboard shortcuts 'just work' | 15:04 |
babble | if you didn't nuke your last installation of Ubuntu or Mint, I suppose it's possible you have some odd config bits hanging around | 15:04 |
Guest65065 | babble: Nah they were worked and it's installed at latest version : P | 15:04 |
GridCube | ok so my question, its safe to install an OS on a logic partition? | 15:05 |
babble | are you running gnome bits that also expect to handle your volume keys/ | 15:06 |
babble | ? | 15:06 |
holstein | GridCube: if the installer will use it, i dont see why not | 15:07 |
holstein | should be fine | 15:07 |
GridCube | well im defining the partiotion with gparted | 15:10 |
GridCube | :/ | 15:11 |
pahan | hi everyone, I have lags when I resize windows. Does anybody know what is the problem? | 15:39 |
GridCube | yay! i broke things up :D | 15:44 |
GridCube | well not so much :D | 15:45 |
GridCube | rezising worked | 15:45 |
GridCube | i could use the 'rescue' partition as swap :P | 15:48 |
GridCube | :D this is awesome | 15:59 |
GridCube | it took my picture | 15:59 |
GridCube | :D | 15:59 |
GridCube | i havent used the live installer in years | 16:00 |
chebureque | hi there | 16:11 |
chebureque | guys i've got a problem that makes me mad) | 16:12 |
holstein | chebureque: :/ | 16:12 |
chebureque | after connecting a usb flash, my system automatically mounts it, then i'm trying to write a film on it (both using mc and thunar), and every time my usb remounts, failing the copy process | 16:14 |
chebureque | xubuntu 11.10 (in 11.04 there was same problem) | 16:14 |
holstein | interesting | 16:14 |
chebureque | copying success on 12-15 try | 16:15 |
holstein | chebureque: you might want to try grsync | 16:15 |
chebureque | i'm newbi to linux, what's that is& | 16:15 |
chebureque | ? | 16:15 |
holstein | chebureque: assuming this is the *same* usb stick, it could be failing | 16:16 |
chebureque | that's not usb stick problem | 16:17 |
chebureque | was trying with another one - same shit | 16:17 |
chebureque | what is grsync? | 16:17 |
holstein | chebureque: this channel is logged, if you dont mind to be more courteous with your language :) | 16:18 |
chebureque | sorry, i will | 16:18 |
holstein | chebureque: you can try to copy the files with rsync in the terminal | 16:19 |
holstein | or grsync which is a GUI rsync, and maybe you will get output | 16:19 |
holstein | helpful error messages | 16:19 |
chebureque | hm | 16:19 |
holstein | you just need to troubleshoot it, and see | 16:19 |
holstein | there are at least 2 constants that i can state | 16:19 |
holstein | the machine/USB controller, and you | 16:20 |
chebureque | should i install something or its a shell command? | 16:20 |
holstein | so, it coud be that you have not aquired the skill, or that the USB controller is not very well supported | 16:20 |
chebureque | hm | 16:30 |
chebureque | with grsync everything copied well | 16:30 |
chebureque | no remounts | 16:30 |
chebureque | Rsync process exit status: 0 | 16:30 |
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tjingboem | where can i tell grub to generate a bigger font for the choice menu? | 16:52 |
GridCube | tjingboem, http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Splashimages.html#how_to_change_font | 16:54 |
tjingboem | GridCube thanks very much! | 17:00 |
tjingboem | can i also change the font size of Thunar? | 17:04 |
Sysi | I think it just uses default one | 17:05 |
tjingboem | okay, i'll tweak that a bit | 17:08 |
GridCube | i like to change it to the ubuntu font | 17:11 |
Marion | What does dpkg --configure -a do | 17:14 |
Marion | My usb mouse is not bring recognized how can I fix this | 17:18 |
incorrect | Marion, see if the kernel found your mouse in dmesg | 17:19 |
Marion | I'm just using the defaults | 17:20 |
incorrect | what mouse is it? | 17:20 |
Marion | Wait it started working | 17:21 |
Dr41th6h | Hey everyone. | 17:29 |
donatas_ | Hi everyone, I just installed xubuntu 11.10 on my laptop and for some reason I can;t install hardware drivers or install any updates | 18:26 |
donatas_ | could someone help me out | 18:26 |
donatas_ | i'm connecting to the internet through USB cable going to my router | 18:27 |
donatas_ | firefox work just fine, internet is online | 18:27 |
donatas_ | I get these lines from jockey.log | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:21:45,276 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_173_updates).enabled(): target_alt$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:21:45,277 DEBUG: nvidia_173_updates is not the alternative in use | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:21:45,450 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_current_updates).enabled(): target$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:21:45,451 DEBUG: nvidia_current_updates is not the alternative in$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:16,366 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_current).enabled(): target_alt Non$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:16,367 DEBUG: nvidia_current is not the alternative in use | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:16,768 DEBUG: Installing package: nvidia-current | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:17,586 ERROR: Binary package nvidia-current has no trusted ori$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:17,849 WARNING: modinfo for module nvidia_current failed: ERRO$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:17,850 ERROR: XorgDriverHandler.enable(): package or module no$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:17,867 ERROR: xorg:nvidia_current: get_alternative_by_name(nvi$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:18,039 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_current).enabled(): target_alt Non$ | 18:28 |
donatas_ | 2011-11-05 20:24:18,040 DEBUG: nvidia_current is not the alternative in use | 18:28 |
donatas_ | any thoughts ? | 18:28 |
TheSheep | please use a pastebin next time | 18:32 |
TheSheep | I can't even see your question | 18:32 |
donatas_ | I get error when trying to install hardware drivers or updates after fresh install of xubuntu 11.10 | 18:37 |
madnick | I have the same problem O_o | 18:39 |
donatas_ | update manager says - Requires installation of untrusted packages | 18:40 |
donatas_ | The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. | 18:40 |
donatas_ | Also I can't install any packages at all... it seams like something is wrong with repositories, authentification etc. | 18:47 |
Azelphur | Anyone know how I set up a shared printer with Xubuntu? | 18:48 |
donatas_ | changing to main server in software sources fixed the problem... Probably my local server was down | 18:51 |
donatas_ | Xubuntu is like a breath of fresh air after unity... great simple and effective interface | 18:53 |
StormStrikes | Anyone with a Dell XPS 17 L702X that has the fan constantly running? If so, any solutions? | 19:06 |
madnick | anyone happen to know what you need to tell aticonfig for it to extend my desktop? | 19:52 |
madnick | (not make 2 seperate desktops) | 19:52 |
madnick | (cant use dtop) | 19:53 |
XubuntuKris | I have an issue with genmon since upgrading to 11.10. | 21:14 |
XubuntuKris | Any time I boot up, it won't run automatically...well, it does run, but it only displays a blank spot where it's supposed to display the command output. I have to right click the blank spot and click properties, then it shows up and I can close out of the properties without changing anything. | 21:15 |
XubuntuKris | I don't have long to get info from here, so if anyone has anything, it'd be greatly appreciated. | 21:16 |
ochosi | XubuntuKris: i guess the best thing would be to report a bug at bugzilla.xfce.org | 21:17 |
ochosi | it doesn't sound like there'll be a quick and easy solution | 21:18 |
XubuntuKris | Maybe. I thought that it might have been something I'm doing wrong.lol | 21:19 |
XubuntuKris | is there supposed to be a certain way that the command I'm using should be input? | 21:20 |
XubuntuKris | like, example: uname -n | 21:20 |
XubuntuKris | should it have quotes? | 21:21 |
XubuntuKris | or anything else? | 21:21 |
XubuntuKris | or just the command? | 21:21 |
XubuntuKris | anyway, times up, I'm out. | 21:25 |
xubuntu269 | Hi ! | 21:53 |
xubuntu269 | Is there anyone ? | 21:53 |
xubuntu269 | I see, I'm alone. :'( | 21:54 |
ochosi | !ask | 21:55 |
ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 21:55 |
ochosi | !hi | 21:55 |
ubottu | Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 21:55 |
Sysi | oh hi ochosi | 21:55 |
ochosi | hey Sysi | 21:55 |
takis-sanjo | hey, is there a way to save current save of windows and process opened and restore after restart? | 22:14 |
takis-sanjo | state* | 22:15 |
knome | takis-sanjo, check the "save session" boc on logout - note that it won't save documents etc. though, just the windows that are open | 22:15 |
takis-sanjo | ok thanx | 22:16 |
TheSheep | you can also sleep/hibernate instead of powering off... | 22:16 |
Marion | Omg linux | 22:57 |
knome | ? | 22:57 |
Marion | Broke | 22:57 |
Marion | So I updated from 11.04 to 11.10 abner it won't boot | 22:58 |
ubuntu | Hello my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-) | 23:05 |
ubuntu | I trust all of you find yourselves well | 23:06 |
ubuntu | is anyone else having troubles installing Precise Xubuntu ? | 23:11 |
ubuntu | Runs great in live mode but won't install onto ones hard drive. | 23:11 |
knome | precise? that's not even alpha yet. | 23:11 |
knome | there is no support for it yet | 23:12 |
Sysi | oh they announced name already? | 23:12 |
knome | ages ago | 23:12 |
knome | precise pangolin | 23:12 |
Sysi | very ubuntu | 23:12 |
ubuntu | test | 23:13 |
ubuntu | too bad one can't install Precise Pangolin it runs very well in live mode | 23:18 |
madnick | where did you even get that iso? | 23:18 |
madnick | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20111105/ ? | 23:19 |
takis-sanjo | hey i know this might not be the right chan, but how do i install python modules is there something similar to cpan like in perl? | 23:19 |
Myrtti | takis-sanjo: first check if the modules are installable via ubuntu package management | 23:20 |
ubuntu | yes from that exact same place madnick | 23:21 |
madnick | okay :) | 23:22 |
ubuntu | How does one change ones nick in Xchat ? | 23:22 |
Myrtti | /nick | 23:22 |
Myrtti | should work in every client | 23:22 |
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takis-sanjo | Myrtti, nope they are not... | 23:23 |
deborah | madnick, did you try installing it ? | 23:23 |
madnick | deborah: i am waiting until Dec 1, where testing starts :) | 23:23 |
deborah | and here I wanted to run it off of my hard drive lol | 23:24 |
madnick | There was a release 20 days ago :P | 23:24 |
deborah | pity because the precise Xubuntu live disk runs extremely well. | 23:29 |
Myrtti | are there any differences to Oneiric yet at this point? | 23:33 |
deborah | Myrttl, well I noticed that my tracpad works far more smoothly under precise then oneiric. | 23:35 |
deborah | granted I'm running precise live so far it doesn't seem install to a hard drive yet | 23:36 |
Myrtti | right... well, to me that wouldn't be good enough reason to install precise permanently yet | 23:41 |
deborah | Myrtti, if you have a nice test partition like I do I'd test away. | 23:47 |
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