[01:48] So [01:49] I'm trying to install xubuntu on my new netbook [01:49] but it doesnt recongnizes, either my wired or the wireless card :( [01:49] thats not cool [01:49] no its not [01:49] some HP mininote with broadcom? [01:50] and the installer just doesnt want to move on whitout a network card [01:50] no its an intel classmate [01:50] oh... interesting [01:50] i would just grab the alternate iso then [01:50] not sure what thats about [01:50] im using the alternate is [01:50] from the install, you should be able to sort it out [01:50] o [01:50] hmmm [01:51] GridCube: im new here... all i can suggest is work-arounds [01:51] it says just that "the installer cant go on because no network card is installled" [01:51] :) [01:51] installing minimal from some other alternate iso [01:51] workarounds work [01:51] and installing xubuntu-desktop when you get *some* network going [01:51] mmm [01:52] GridCube: did you try the live one though? [01:52] the gui installer? [01:52] nope [01:52] that cant hurt [01:53] :P well i need the iso [01:53] that would take a huge lot of time [01:53] * holstein wonders if theres a bug somewhere filed for that issue [01:53] GridCube: how about from that iso? the options... 'minimal install, or CLI only [01:53] are those still there? [01:54] theres just cli [01:54] try that [01:54] same installer though... [02:04] what on earth [02:04] no good? [02:06] realtek says its integrated on the kernel [02:07] support for RTL8191SE [02:07] yeah, im surprised you dont have it [02:07] and the installer should go past it anyways [02:07] yes [02:07] it should [02:07] i think i need a new image [02:29] is there a way to update the kernel? [02:31] marion: i do it in the terminal [02:31] ive been just installing aptitude and doing it :) [02:31] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade for terminal [02:31] but the upgrad manager should do it [02:32] holstein im running into a problem trying to upgrade im getting a kernel panic [02:32] well... maybe the package you downloaded is bad? [02:32] i would reinstall the latest kernel [02:33] i've downloaded three all from xubuntu.org [02:33] how to i reinstall the latest kernel [02:33] i would just do that in whatever package manager you are comfortable with [02:34] i like synaptic for that ...GUI management [02:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/728747/ [02:35] thats what happens when i do what unit193 said [02:35] so you are up to date [02:35] marion: run this first [02:36] sudo apt-get update [02:36] ok thats done now what [02:36] marion: run the other command again [02:37] same results [02:37] so you are up to date [02:37] then why is it not letting me update [02:37] there are no kernel updates available for you [02:38] Now run uname -a [02:38] marion: there are no updates to be had [02:38] i wanna do 11.10 [02:38] marion: ? [02:38] right now i am on 11.04 [02:38] OK [02:38] Linux marion-desktop 2.6.32-35-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11 15:27:15 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux [02:39] http://zeeis.me/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/ [02:39] i personally would just reinstall [02:39] backup and reinstall fresh [02:40] takes so little time to install these days [02:41] this is taking me down to maverik merecat. i would do that holstein but when i try to go to the installer it wont let me [02:42] http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal-to-11.10-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-and-server [02:42] marion: use the update tool [02:43] is there a way to see what distro i am on? [02:45] marion: cat /etc/issue [02:45] marion: lsb_release -r will tell you [02:45] in the terminal [02:45] or that ^ [02:45] apparently i am on 10.04 [02:46] i could have sworn i downloaded 11.04 [02:46] You'd have to go 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 [02:47] i would stay there til 12.04 [02:47] ^^ [02:47] that'll go 10.04 to 12.04 [02:47] but, i typically just test the upgrades to see if it works [02:47] and reinstall ;) [02:47] 12.04 will be the next long term release [02:48] ??? [02:48] yup [02:49] well i am doing the maverick update now [02:49] as long as you know that i suggest you dont, go for it :) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:12] are all ports closed by default? [05:13] nope it's the opposite iirc [05:13] oh ok, that's how i lik eit [05:14] that's a large accent you have there [05:14] open source should apply to your ports too ;D [05:14] ;) [05:14] :p [05:15] I've never had to open a port to use a service [05:20] "scans network" wow that guy has all his ports open, better not mess with him [05:26] i'll do that if i get my hands on a netbook [06:06] anyone know a way to share a hard drive partion well in xubuntu over dns [06:07] the drive is ntfs [06:07] dns = domain name server - that translates e.g. google.com to an ip [06:08] sharing over a local area network should be easy enough [06:08] !samba [06:08] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [06:11] is everything i need already in xubuntu by default [06:12] it just a 53 gb partion i use to hole movie on want to share on my xbox 360 [06:12] if the share is on another comp look at gigolo [06:13] !info gigolo [06:13] gigolo (source: gigolo): frontend to manage connections to remote filesystems using GIO/GVfs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-3 (oneiric), package size 140 kB, installed size 856 kB [06:14] dont want to any main drives with anything important [06:15] you should already have the samba client to connect to other comps share folders [06:32] i dont see it yet at xbox [06:35] did you check the samba link ^ ? [06:38] YES using samba server configuration drive setup /media/1e5ba2a94cbfbodo [06:38] permission read right visible [06:38] description media hard drive [06:39] how can i find out if it going out the right way [06:40] I don't use an xbox but found this - http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=614896 [06:43] wish i could get xbmc running but the natty repo is all but dont want to work [06:48] how about ushare [06:48] does ushare have a frontend gui [06:55] I don't know about ushare [07:05] I can't find the xubuntu touchpad settings, do I need to install something? [07:07] iirc there's pointer-settings for that [07:07] !info gpointer-settings [07:07] Package gpointer-settings does not exist in oneiric [07:07] !info gpointer-settings [07:07] !info gpointer-setting [07:07] Package gpointer-setting does not exist in oneiric [07:07] bah [07:38] !info gpointing-device-settings [07:38] gpointing-device-settings (source: gpointing-device-settings): configuration tool for pointing devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.1-5ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 62 kB, installed size 600 kB [07:44] !info ta [07:44] Package ta does not exist in oneiric [07:44] ta [09:08] Is there a way to make the volume control well integrated with pulseaudio [09:09] Right now I have to manually use pavucontrol to mute/unmute sometimes [09:25] How to report a bug when ubuntu-bug can not find firefox? I have firefox 7 installed instead of in-distribudion one, using PPA repository for newer Firefox. [09:25] Why reporting bugs is to tight to firefox, anyway? I am on Lucid, XUbuntu 10.04 LTS 64-bit. [09:29] !ppa [09:29] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa [09:29] - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. [09:30] yes well_laid_lawn but what it have to do with reporting BUGS? [09:31] If I upgrade my browser, or use any PPA, that should not affect BUG reporting for whole OS [09:32] ubuntu-bug is misleadingly made inside to NEED firefox and not to use any other browser. [09:32] Is looks to me like unintentional vendor lock-in for Mozilla Firefox. [09:32] you're using a ppa - ubuntu doesn't fix those bugs [09:32] What if I uninstall firefox? [09:32] well_laid_lawn, well, it is not PPA bug [09:32] then you won't have the bug from what you said [09:32] Ok, I will try uninstalling Firefox [09:33] and will see how it will report a bug then. [09:33] How to report a bug when ubuntu-bug can not find firefox? I have firefox 7 installed instead of in-distribudion one, using PPA repository for newer Firefox. [09:33] says you used a ppa [09:33] ok, I will uninstall it. [09:33] then what [09:33] do you have a bug then? [09:34] will see after uninstalling [09:35] And its about xfce-weather-plugin stopped working yesterday not updating weather from network etc [09:41] so where does firefox come into it? [09:41] thats it. ubuntu'bug can not report bugs because it depends on firefox being installed. [09:41] ahh ok I'm with you now [09:41] if uninstalled - > no reporting bugs [09:42] So I guess i would need to install in-distribution firefox, to report bug on ubuntu-bug itself. [09:43] you'll need some sort of browser... [09:43] I guess proper way should be that ubuntu-bug should use default browser, whatever it is, in my case seamonkey (or ff7 of chromium or konqueror or opera or...) [09:44] how can they sort out bugs if ppl have who knows what app installed from some ppa? [09:45] the ppa could change so many files [09:45] Aha. but maybe it should work if there is no FF. there are other browsers in official repos, too, maybe someone does not have love on FF from repo? :) [09:46] Hmm, maybe there should be some kind of protection for main distribution, protecting files replacements from PPAs.. but that is another topic. [09:47] I personally think that reporting bugs should not be connected with choosing browser, that would be bug of mine. [09:48] if your reporting bugs in ubuntu it's fair they expect you to be using thier packages [09:49] you can report it as a bug or feature request [09:49] yes that is true. And they should not expect I use firefox. :) I will. [09:49] luck ;) [09:50] I guess better answer would be: Patch :) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [10:41] Oh, I need to find a way to report bugs alternatively. Even after installing firefox from repos, unable to report bug: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/728958/ [10:42] do you still have the ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list ? [10:43] I'm guessing that might be an issue [10:48] I diabled it. [11:40] re2all [11:40] i have troubles with my sound card, it didn't play [11:41] since i have installed xubuntu)) [11:41] what i should to do? [11:42] hi [11:42] all channels umuted? [11:42] check alsamixer [11:42] no, only Emu tracker don't play [11:43] card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC861-VD Analog [ALC861-VD Analog] card 1: USB [E-MU Tracker Pre | USB], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] [11:43] open a terminal and type 'alsamixer' [11:44] done) [11:44] and what i should to do next? [11:45] there should be several regulators [11:45] check that everywhere below that is 00 and not MM [11:45] to switch press mm [11:45] m [11:46] brb 5 mins [11:47] but how to change default sound card [11:49] music does not play.. [11:53] alsamixer [11:53] f6 [11:54] for system you can change default soundcard in audio settings [11:55] or try [11:55] asoundconf list [11:55] asoundconf set-default-card CARD_NAME [11:56] or check this: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5608 [11:56] hi does anyone know how to put the titelbar into the panel with xfce 4.8 so link in ubuntu when a window sis maximided [11:57] Xsamsung, you mean sth like this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/how-to-enable-ubuntus-global-menu-in-xubuntu-11-10/ [11:57] ? [11:58] no linke this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/maximising-screen-space-in-ubuntu/ but this dosent work [11:59] http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=103732&file1=103732-1.png&file2=103732-2.png&file3=103732-3.png&name=Window+Applets&PHPSESSID=3b768ad8c7346c08f008ae8433b9f534 [12:01] well there was some kind of applet for xfce panel to use gnome2 panel-applets. don't know if that still exists [12:09] plantoschka: but i haven't asoundconf [12:09] which packet i should install? [12:11] hello all, how to run compiz with xfce? [12:11] alsa-utils is alreay installed [12:16] x0r, : try it like this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5608 [12:19] it doesn't play again =( [12:19] what doesnt? [12:20] the second soundcard doesn't play [12:20] oh [12:20] that can be tricky [12:20] you do need them both? [12:21] yes [12:21] both are pci? [12:21] but sometimes i use microphone which is connected to the first soundcard [12:21] can you do a lspci and pastebin it? [12:21] the 1st - pci , and the 2nd - usb [12:22] i see [12:22] then one lsusb and one lspci :D [12:22] just a second [12:23] http://pastebin.com/4MGi5tFm [12:25] ok which is the one that does not work? [12:25] the usb one? [12:25] yes [12:25] usb one [12:26] mmm i cant seem to recognize it on the lsusb [12:26] can you? [12:27] its the "creative technology ltd"? [12:27] Bus 001 Device 009: ID 041e:3f0a Creative Technology, Ltd [12:27] yes, its) [12:29] x0r, question, do you have it pluged to you usb-hub? [12:29] no it's connected directly [12:29] ok [12:31] x0r, do you have pavucontrol installed? [12:32] !pavucontrol [12:32] !info pavucontrol [12:32] pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 136 kB, installed size 1024 kB [12:32] installed [12:32] just checking [12:32] now) [12:33] good [12:33] thank you, man [12:33] and problem number 2 [12:34] i have 2 monitors [12:34] salve [12:34] how i can do extend one of them [12:35] x0r, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/429642 [12:35] Launchpad bug 429642 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "USB creative xmod XFI Output does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:35] check that bug [12:35] ho problemi all'accesso di xubuntu [12:35] x0r, i know people here have done that do not know really how [12:35] !it | xubuntu854 [12:35] xubuntu854: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [12:36] GridCube: what i should to install , if i want extend one of the monitor [12:36] aranrd ? [12:37] !info arandr [12:37] arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-1 (oneiric), package size 48 kB, installed size 376 kB [12:37] currently they are mirror [12:37] yes, that happens [12:37] as said, people here have fixed that [12:37] not me tho :P [12:38] i just have one monitor [12:39] GridCube: thank you very much) === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [12:39] :) just trying to help [12:41] xfce is more usefull than unity, i think [12:45] :D i think that too [12:45] what does mean option - lock channels together [12:47] or, i'm understand, sorry)) [12:47] *oh [14:05] any idea of orca accessibility in latest xubuntu [14:08] anyone running dual head? [14:10] Fudge: looks like gnome-orca is in the repos for 11.10 [14:10] if you need a screen reader, i might look for something that doesnt pull in a bunch of gnome stuff (assuming orca does) [14:10] oh, thanks [14:11] not really, do you want to extend your monitor instead of mirroring it holstein ? tried arandr? [14:11] GridCube: so far, i just used the 'monitor' tool [14:12] it mirrored, and didnt work very well [14:12] i would like to do either [14:12] well try arandr [14:12] i need spanned for most cases, but i do presentations from time to time as well [14:13] * holstein installing... [14:14] GridCube: i have to say, it looks right... [14:14] * holstein hooking up a monitor [14:16] well, i have to see if i can install xubuntu whit the live cd, yesterday the alternate failed on me [14:17] aahg god there it went again, its with no whit GridCube [14:19] GridCube: this is looking promising... thanks [14:19] no prob [14:30] yay \o/ iso downloaded creating usb [14:31] GridCube: :) [14:36] ok will try it :D [14:42] Hi everyone, I installed chromium last nigh to replace firefox as the default. Even when I change chromium in the preferred applications menu, and selectt chrome, it asks if i want it to be the default. every time i click to set it as the default and relaunch it from the menu, a dialog comes up asking me to choose default browser. any ideas?/ i'm new to this [14:43] Guest65065: I've had problems with Chrome (and, in this case, I assume Chromium, as well) setting *itself* as the default browser and setting a default browser in Preferred Applictaions. [14:43] don't set Chromium as the default in its dialog, when it asks - tick "don't ask again" - and just set it in preferred apps [14:44] that won't affect it when I launch links fromm xchat for example?/ [14:44] actually ... http://test.com [14:44] no, it'll work correctly. [14:44] I have Chrome installed now, and links from in here open in Chrome (instead of, say, Firefox) [14:44] why did you go for chrome over chromium?/ [14:45] Guest65065: no special reason [14:46] babble: Hm well thanks. Perhaps you could help me with another problem. I am trying to install flash player and having performance problems with the versions I try to install?/ [14:47] I'm not seeing particular peformance issues with Flash over the *usual* performance issues with flash. hehe. Let me see what I have installed. [14:47] Guest65065: in the 'advanced' tab over in 'session and startup' i checked the box for 'launch GNOME services at starup [14:48] im not sure what setting i did made it stick... i tried a bunch of things, and apparently gnome services helped make one persistent [14:48] babble: This is my first linux experience and I installed a few other distributions before xubuntu. I believe it was Linux mint that had the flash package that worked best. [14:48] I tried the default x64 flash install and got like 10fps on a 360p video [14:49] then I tried this 64bit package with a 32bit wrapper or something [14:49] and managed to get full speed up to 720p [14:49] Guest65065: I have flashplugin-11.0.1.152ubuntu1 installed; that should be installing 64-bit flash, but lemme rip open the metapackage and see what it's installed. [14:51] :D [14:51] AWESOME [14:51] AWESOME! [14:51] * holstein hight-fives GridCube [14:51] livecd works! [14:51] okay, that's installing two things: Depends: flashplugin-downloader (>= 11.0.1.152ubuntu1), nspluginwrapper [14:51] all networks are working [14:52] touchscreen works out of the box [14:52] >:D [14:52] good bye win7 [14:53] Guest65065: you should have the following installed in Synaptic: flashplugin-installer, nspluginwrapper, flashplugin-downloader [14:54] also, the graphics driver can effect video performance [14:54] and compositing [14:54] Hm I don't know enough yet to understand graphics drivers etc [14:54] I know that upon initial install I had around 300 frames in glxgears [14:55] after installing fglrx [14:55] Guest65065: thats the only reason i bring it up [14:55] i get around 2000 [14:55] its not necessarily the xubuntu vs. mint [14:55] babble: Thanks I'm installing them al now [14:55] there are different kernels, differnt graphics driver rev, and proprietary driver [14:55] yeah [14:56] it's just the performance difference is/was so drastic [14:56] Guest65065: flashplugin-installer is a metapackage - it will grab the other two for you [14:56] AFAIK, mint provides those proprietary drivers out of the box [14:56] holstein: which drivers? I had to install fglrx on mint too [14:57] Guest65065: whatever drivers you need... [14:58] holstein: I would just assume a distribution like ubuntu would be doing the same [14:58] Oddly enough there are a few things fixed and some broken [14:58] for example, i could correctly use the keyboard shortcuts to adjust volume .. on xubuntu they don't work. [14:58] Guest65065: but you are not taking everything into consideration [14:59] holstein: I can't given how limited my experience is : p [14:59] and ubuntu *cant* release proprietary blobs like mint can/does [14:59] ubuntu = xubuntu so... [14:59] mmm my netbook already had 3 primary partitions [14:59] holstein: Aside from basic things like graphic or audio drivers ... i have no idea how or where to grab packages for things like my keyboard shortcuts [14:59] Guest65065: i say, choose your battles, and take it one thing at a tie [14:59] time* [15:00] also, buy more linux friendly when you have the opportunity [15:00] so if i make a new primary for xubuntu i can not keep partitioning it, its safe to install a OS on a logical partition or should i ditch the win7 partitions allthogheter [15:00] its a bit of a transition if you are coming from windows, but for me, now-a-days, i have a much more challenging time installing/configuring windows [15:01] holstein: I bought this laptop solely to install a linux distribution on it and begin learning : P [15:01] it's Lenovo x120e, i was told they generally have good/great compatibility [15:01] GridCube: i remember getting rid of one on a netbook, and reclaiming space... there was a 'data' partition in win7 [15:02] but, last reinstall i just wiped it [15:02] holstein: Every distribution has something working the other didn't, which makes me optimistic [15:02] i might have video and sound issues in xubuntu, but i don't have any random hangs or errors during my boot -- and even bluetooth works [15:02] Guest65065: I'm using the XFCE Volume daemon, which handles media keys in Xfce as well as notifcations for volume mounts. [15:02] Guest65065: i like using live CD's for that... to see whats doing what and why... you just have to learn what to look for [15:02] but in linux mint, i do get random black screens and boot errors etc, [15:02] sec, I'll get you the exact package name. [15:02] i have main called W7OS with 300gb a Recuperation with 5g and a system with 1gb [15:03] kernel versions... what pacakges are where... ALSA rev... whatever [15:03] it's a netbook holstein : P [15:03] I did try the live versions on my usb stick [15:03] Guest65065: i have 4 [15:03] babble: Is that enabled by default ? [15:03] :> im installed on a netbook Guest65065 [15:03] not volume *mounts* but volume *event,* rather. [15:03] anyway. [15:03] installing [15:03] xfce4-volumed [15:04] it should have been but I'm running from a clean install of Xubuntu [15:04] :D the meta volume keys are working [15:04] yeah... my keyboard shortcuts 'just work' [15:04] if you didn't nuke your last installation of Ubuntu or Mint, I suppose it's possible you have some odd config bits hanging around [15:04] babble: Nah they were worked and it's installed at latest version : P [15:05] ok so my question, its safe to install an OS on a logic partition? [15:06] are you running gnome bits that also expect to handle your volume keys/ [15:06] ? [15:07] GridCube: if the installer will use it, i dont see why not [15:07] should be fine [15:10] well im defining the partiotion with gparted [15:11] :/ [15:39]