[01:48]  * wxl yawns
[01:48] <wxl> anyone got a battery for a thinkpad r60 they don't want? :D
[03:06] <puff> I just switched from ubuntu 10.4 LTS lucid to 11.10 oneiric.  I'm not terribly impressed, it actually seems slower.  During the upgrade process I came across a mention of lubuntu, is it substantially the same as ubuntu?
[03:09] <Unit193> It isn't the same as it doesn't use Gnome2/3 or Unity, it uses LXDE. Try the LiveCD to see if you like it (screenshots too)
[05:06] <wxl> so if lubuntu is official why is there no official lubuntu lsb_release?
[05:08] <Unit193> Xubuntu also doesn't have it, and I don't think Kubuntu does either
[05:09] <wxl> oh huh
[05:09] <wxl> i had just read on the grub2 page that it did (xubuntu)
[05:09] <wxl> or at least it implied as such
[05:10] <holstein> they are all ubuntu though
[05:10] <holstein> all the same repos
[05:10] <wxl> oh right
[05:39] <wxl> /mark/mark
[05:39] <wxl> oops
[07:10] <JadedJacob> How do you add programs to the quick launch section?
[07:10] <JadedJacob> (where chromium is)
[07:47] <hulaka> When I do "apt-get upgrade" it eventually says that Kadu packages (kadu, kadu-common, kadu-external-modules) have been stopped. Plus Kadu looks shitty ... there's no icon on the dock (only empty space), no icons next to my friends nicknames ... what the hell?
[10:46] <l33_> hi
[17:47] <Guest3003> Hi. Question about all these Appearance managers: What's the difference between "obconf" and "lxappearance"? Do I need to install both? They seem to do almost the same thing.
[17:49] <Guest3003> Bump
[17:50] <leszek> Guest3003: obconf is the tool shipped with openbox itself and besides theming you can set button behavior and workspaces there
[17:51] <Guest3003> Thanks leszek. What about lxappearance? Can I get by with just obconf?
[17:54] <szczur> Guest3003, with obconf alone you won't be able to change the gtk theme (eg. look of the buttons, sliders, font color etc.) You can only change the look of the title bar.
[17:57] <Guest3003> ic.
[17:57] <Guest3003> Thanks szczur.
[17:57] <szczur> np.
[17:57] <szczur> :)
[18:29] <croque> Anyone know of an email checker/notifier with IMAP Idle support that works with the Lubuntu taskbar?
[18:29] <croque> Couldn't get cgmail to work.
[18:41] <TheCheggs> Hello all
[18:42] <TheCheggs> does anyone own a pair microsoft lx3000 headphones?
[18:43] <TheCheggs> i can't seem to get them working under lubuntu
[18:52] <szczur> croque, try gnubiff
[18:53] <croque> szczur: I just tried it. It's no longer in the Ubuntu repos though.
[18:53] <croque> szczur: Tried compiling...then tried the debian package.
[18:54] <croque> worked...but couldn't get it on the taskbar.
[18:55] <croque> too bad because it looks small and configurable.
[18:56] <szczur> tried gnubiff -n --systemtray?
[18:56] <szczur> you're using lubuntu 11.10?
[18:57] <szczur> try this package > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/52988638/gnubiff_2.2.13-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[18:57] <croque> yes 11.10...
[18:57] <croque> tried your suggestion...seems to be on the tray now!
[18:57] <szczur> ^^
[18:59] <szczur> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop
[18:59] <croque> Thanks szczur....very helpful!
[18:59] <szczur> for creating new desktop files look at the previous tip
[19:00] <szczur> but you seem to be knowledgeable so guess it won't be a problem :)
[19:00] <croque> *seems* is the operative word :)
[19:01] <croque> I can fake it.
[19:01] <croque> Thanks for the tips
[19:02] <szczur> no problem
[19:52] <iceroot> hi, is lubuntu not using dbus? on my system dbus is not running
[23:04] <TheCheggs> hey guys is anyone not busy?