| Faqtotum | #ubuntu is no help atm; anyone around? | 02:29 |
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| Faqtotum | [Sat 2011-11-05 06:57:48 PM PDT] <Faqtotum> is it possible to upgrade from natty to oneiric from the dvd? | 02:29 |
| philipballew | Faqtotum, whats up | 02:30 |
| Faqtotum | ^ | 02:30 |
| philipballew | ahh... sprry | 02:30 |
| philipballew | *sorry | 02:30 |
| philipballew | You can use a alternate cd | 02:30 |
| philipballew | do you know what that is? | 02:30 |
| Faqtotum | so the alternate cd can do it but the dvd can't? | 02:31 |
| philipballew | Ubuntu comes on a cd? | 02:31 |
| Faqtotum | the alternate cd is a cd, so obviously yes | 02:31 |
| Faqtotum | i burned the dvd iso | 02:32 |
| Faqtotum | the dvd is the desktop cd and the alternate cd in one | 02:32 |
| philipballew | Yeah, if I were wanting to upgrade from removable media I would use the alternate iso | 02:32 |
| Faqtotum | as would i | 02:32 |
| Faqtotum | but everyone kept saying the dvd was everything both cd's were | 02:33 |
| philipballew | Maybe, I have not herd that. but I am not that smart | 02:33 |
| Faqtotum | do you have the alternate cd handy to check? | 02:34 |
| philipballew | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades#Upgrading_Using_the_Alternate_CD.2BAC8-DVD | 02:36 |
| Faqtotum | tried that | 02:36 |
| Faqtotum | there is no such file | 02:36 |
| philipballew | Nice! | 02:36 |
| philipballew | Ubuntu is awesome! | 02:37 |
| philipballew | I wonder how old that doc is then | 02:37 |
| Faqtotum | teehee | 02:37 |
| philipballew | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/174317 | 02:37 |
| philipballew | even better | 02:37 |
| philipballew | whats wrong with do release upgrade just wondering> | 02:38 |
| Faqtotum | yeah, i ran into that error too | 02:38 |
| Faqtotum | what's wrong is that it will redownload everything | 02:39 |
| philipballew | slow connection? | 02:40 |
| philipballew | or dont want unwanted packages downloading> | 02:41 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: as regards SCALE conf packs, just register and wait to pay until later. | 02:43 |
| Faqtotum | ok | 02:43 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: I'll eventually get a free pass because of Ubucon, but I registered first. | 02:43 |
| Faqtotum | philipballew: combo | 02:43 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: as regards the Ubuntu DVD, this cycle (and maybe last too) it's just the Desktop CD + all language packs. | 02:44 |
| nhaines | So you'll still need an alternate CD to upgrade, as I understand it. | 02:44 |
| Faqtotum | grrrrr | 02:47 |
| Faqtotum | so i burned it as dvd for nothing+ | 02:47 |
| nhaines | Pretty much. Unless you're nostalgic for text debian-installer! | 02:48 |
| nhaines | Now in aubergine! | 02:48 |
| Faqtotum | i liked the old color better | 02:48 |
| Faqtotum | unless the text installer can do an upgrade... | 02:49 |
| nhaines | It can't. Although it should be able to ignore the /home directory and upgrade everything around it. But to that I say: keep good backups. | 02:51 |
| Faqtotum | an upgrade, by definition, keeps the same package set | 02:51 |
| bkerensa | =o | 02:52 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: actually, the Desktop CD claims to do that, too. It seemed to work the last time I looked. | 03:07 |
| Faqtotum | what i'm about to try is "sudo apt-cdrom add" at the "Do you want to start the upgrade?" prompt where it shows what's no longer supported and what will be removed | 03:09 |
| nhaines | You have to boot into the Ubuntu CD to get the upgrade option. | 03:10 |
| Faqtotum | ohhhh | 03:10 |
| nhaines | It's worth a try if you have all your data backed up. | 03:10 |
| nhaines | I tried it around alpha 3 or so, I think. It didn't seem to break everything, but I wiped and did a clean install shortly after. | 03:10 |
| Faqtotum | well i'll reboot and try it | 03:28 |
| Faqtotum | nhaines: no go. it repartitions, moves /home, and wipes all else | 04:06 |
| Faqtotum | can someone please simply dcc me a copy of the cdromupgrade script from the alternate cd? | 04:06 |
| Faqtotum | interesting that the kubuntu dvd has a similar script but the ubuntu dvd does not | 04:07 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: the "Upgrade Ubuntu xxx to 11.10" does that? Shame. :( | 04:12 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: if I can find an alternate CD image I'm more than happy to share it, but I don't think it'll work with the Desktop CD (same as DVD) at all. | 04:13 |
| Faqtotum | the dvd has the text installer, which is what the alternate is all about | 04:15 |
| Faqtotum | from what i can tell, that's what the script wants | 04:15 |
| nhaines | Don't have one. | 04:20 |
| nhaines | I'd grab a torrent. | 04:20 |
| Faqtotum | :( | 04:20 |
| philipballew | does he just need someone to download it? | 04:22 |
| Faqtotum | preferably someone who has already downloaded it and can just grab the file | 04:23 |
| philipballew | I dont mind downloading it if I need to | 04:23 |
| Faqtotum | i spent 4 days torrenting the dvd | 04:23 |
| philipballew | The alternate should go fast? | 04:24 |
| Faqtotum | seems like a waste when all i want is one file | 04:24 |
| philipballew | i guess so | 04:25 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: seems like a mirror should get you the file in just a few minutes. | 04:27 |
| Faqtotum | a mirror of the cd contents? | 04:28 |
| Faqtotum | where is the source repository for the cd, anyway? | 04:28 |
| Faqtotum | where the script is tracked | 04:29 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: a US mirror, not a CD contents mirror. | 04:29 |
| Faqtotum | shouldn't there be a bzr repository somewhere? | 04:30 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: I'll finish the torrent in about 6 minutes. | 04:31 |
| Faqtotum | i'd rather find the bzr | 04:32 |
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| nhaines | Can't help with that, though. :) | 04:37 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: http://ubuntuone.com/p/k4g/ | 04:40 |
| Faqtotum | a screenshot of byobu? | 04:48 |
| Faqtotum | haha, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main/view/2253/DistUpgrade/cdromupgrade | 04:55 |
| nhaines | http://ubuntuone.com/4ROHpAoRK2xt4hUl3FumKF | 04:56 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: that should do it! | 04:56 |
| Faqtotum | looks like i also needed to download http://mirrors.200p-sf.sonic.net/mirrors/mirrors/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/oneiric.tar.gz | 05:07 |
| Faqtotum | it's running | 05:07 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: good luck! | 05:21 |
| Faqtotum | nhaines: seems the dvd doesn't have the text installer after all | 05:47 |
| Faqtotum | debian-installer, that is | 05:47 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: that's right and I said as much earlier. :) | 06:19 |
| Faqtotum | [Sat 2011-11-05 07:47:58 PM PDT] <Faqtotum> so i burned it as dvd for nothing+ | 06:34 |
| Faqtotum | [Sat 2011-11-05 07:48:13 PM PDT] <nhaines> Pretty much. Unless you're nostalgic for text debian-installer! | 06:34 |
| Faqtotum | [Sat 2011-11-05 07:48:21 PM PDT] <nhaines> Now in aubergine! | 06:34 |
| Faqtotum | seems you said the contrary | 06:34 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: I must've been researching the alternate CD at the time and didn't switch contexts again, sorry. | 07:13 |
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| MarkDude | Dora the Explora gets sooooooooo damn old after a few hours | 18:23 |
| * MarkDude is baby sitting now. | 18:24 | |
| Faqtotum | no it doesn't | 18:29 |
| Faqtotum | but pokemon does | 18:29 |
| MarkDude | Ok, now I wish Dora was on | 18:47 |
| MarkDude | The Backyardigans are on now. There's an animal in trouble..... | 18:48 |
| Faqtotum | dunno that one | 18:48 |
| MarkDude | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxlWvE2U0nw | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | There it is | 18:50 |
| MarkDude | Wonder pets | 18:51 |
| Faqtotum | when i was that age, most parents wanted their kids to play _outside_ | 18:56 |
| Faqtotum | tv was "bad" | 18:56 |
| MarkDude | Well its raining | 18:56 |
| MarkDude | So much for going to beach today | 18:57 |
| Faqtotum | it's november | 18:57 |
| nhaines | pleia2: do you have a link handy to your oneiric slides? I'm giving a talk on Saturday. :) | 20:47 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: http://princessleia.com/presentations/ubuntu-11.10-plug.odp | 20:50 |
| pleia2 | or .pdf | 20:50 |
| nhaines | pleia2: thanks! | 20:59 |
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