[00:05] <ScottL> hi Kokito 
[00:06] <Kokito> hey ScottL !! How was UDS?
[00:23] <ScottL> oh, everyone quits :/
[02:04] <ailo> I wasn't able to boot into the -lowlatency available at aboganis ppa
[02:04] <ailo> I'm recompiling my own kernel now
[02:05] <ailo> Not that hard to do, really. Just takes some time
[02:05] <ailo> Also, I suspect some of alessio's configs are out of date
[02:09] <ailo> Compiling kernels take time :/
[02:37] <Kokito> damn, lost connection and ScottL with it...
[06:22] <jasonmchristos> ok heres the scoop
[06:22] <jasonmchristos> 1lbs ground lamb
[06:22] <jasonmchristos> 1 clove grown garlic
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> mince the garlic by hand with a curved knife
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> spice a cast iron pan
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> oregeno oil extract
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> warm
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> add garlic to pan and a bit of lamb for lamb fat
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> warm again
[06:23] <jasonmchristos> rub oil into the poresof the iron
[06:24] <jasonmchristos> now take the lamb
[06:24] <jasonmchristos> sprinkle cavenders greek seasoning on the surface
[06:24] <jasonmchristos> imitate if you have high blood pressure
[06:24] <jasonmchristos> knead meat with fingers
[06:24] <jasonmchristos> use rest of garlic knead in along ith
[06:24] <jasonmchristos> with
[06:25] <jasonmchristos> squeeze the meet between your knuckles
[06:25] <jasonmchristos> turn pan up slap on pan cook til done
[06:27] <jasonmchristos> save oil for dipping in pita bread
[06:40] <jasonmchristos> eat in remembrance of Jesus Christ
[06:40] <jasonmchristos> oops wrong channel
[06:44] <ailo> I'm sure there's a lot of data to collect from testing kernels, but after recompiling and installing my own -lowlatency, compared to -generic, I don't even need to do any tests
[06:44] <ailo> It's clear as day
[06:44] <ailo> Been working for many hours now, and not a single xrun at 64 frames/period with firewire, while I had xruns with -generic at 1024 frames/period
[06:47] <jasonmchristos> there you have it
[06:47] <jasonmchristos> tell abogani 
[09:42] <stochastic> hey knome, welcome back.
[10:14] <knome> hey stochastic, thanks :)
[13:11] <scott-upstairs> wanted mention that a meeting has been scheduled for today, in approximately five hours from now:  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Contributor+Meeting&iso=20110904T17
[13:18] <scott-upstairs> here is a first pass meeting notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011September4#preview
[14:33] <scott-upstairs> wanted mention that a meeting has been scheduled for today, in approximately five hours from now:  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Contributor+Meeting&iso=20110904T17
[14:33] <scott-upstairs> here is a first pass meeting notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011September4
[15:01] <astraljava> I suppose you meant: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Contributor+Meeting&iso=20111106T17
[15:01] <astraljava> And that's only 2 hours from _now_, since no DST anymore.
[15:08]  * holstein cant be at the meeting today
[15:08] <holstein> i did some dual-head testing though, in XFCE
[15:09] <holstein> if someone has dual-head and would like to test/confirm... i plan on trying it with some other cards (like nvidia)
[15:09] <holstein> the one im testing on now is a well supported intel card
[15:10] <holstein> GridLock in #xubuntu suggested the package 'arandr' and that is working like a champ for me
[15:17] <astraljava> Dual-head works for me in XFCE 11.10, but I need to use xrandr so that I get something else than cloned displays.
[15:19] <holstein> astraljava: cool.. thats similar to my findings then
[15:20] <holstein> you you mind to look at arandr?
[15:20] <astraljava> I can check it tomorrow, I don't have that display here that I normally use.
[15:20] <holstein> astraljava: what is xrandr part of?
[15:20] <holstein> astraljava: yeah, no hurry
[15:20] <astraljava> x11-xserver-utils: /usr/bin/xrandr
[15:21] <holstein> OK
[15:21] <holstein> i think arandr is just a GUI for that
[15:22] <holstein> right now, im thinking it would be nice to include arandr, and label them in the menu properly
[15:22] <holstein> otherwise, we have the current one from xfce for 'cloned'
[15:24] <astraljava> Yeah. Might be a good idea. I remember the Display settings cannot be used to get that effect.
[15:25] <holstein> if its just a matter of including a small package, why not right?
[15:25] <astraljava> Yep.
[15:29] <madnick> I tried this yesterday with ATI, oh the pain :) arandr works fine, if i first create a virtual display, but i ended up using ati-config + xinerama
[15:30] <holstein> madnick: DATA!
[15:30] <holstein> thats good to know
[15:30] <astraljava> madnick: Good to know, we can document that.
[15:30] <holstein> yeah, i mean, if something *can* work easily out of the box, thats great
[15:31] <holstein> i think most folks know when their graphics cards are going to be a pain
[16:09] <ScottL> good information about multi-head, i'll see about testing some later this afternoon too
[16:24] <falktx> hm, it seems like I can't be present in this meeting (have to go in 30mins)
[16:24] <falktx> ScottL: holstein: what is the irc channel for it? (so I can at least read backscroll when I get back)
[16:24] <astraljava> This one.
[16:24] <falktx> oh, ok
[16:24] <astraljava> Oh no.
[16:24] <falktx> oops
[16:24] <astraljava> #ubuntu-meeting
[16:24] <falktx> ok, I'm on it
[16:24] <falktx> astraljava: thanks
[16:24] <astraljava> At least the last time around.
[16:24] <ScottL> yeah, so we can use the bot, right astraljava ?
[16:25] <astraljava> No prob.
[16:25] <astraljava> Yep.
[16:56] <stochastic> ScottL, how long from now is the meeting? one hour or five minutes?
[16:56] <scott-upstairs> stochastic, i'm sorry for the confusion, five minutes
[16:56] <scott-upstairs> astraljava, would you mind handling the bot please?
[16:58] <astraljava> Oops, lemme go find the commands.
[18:10] <astraljava> Meeting logs from today's meeting can be found @ http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-06-17.00.moin.txt
[18:10] <astraljava> I'll send them to the mailing lists as well.
[18:16] <astraljava> shnatsel: Did you find the convenient time you talked about?
[18:16] <shnatsel> astraljava: nope, failed to look it up on time
[18:17] <astraljava> It's alright, if you can find it now, please let me know, I'm writing to the list about it as well while announcing the meeting logs.
[19:17] <astraljava> shnatsel: Alright, well I'll send the mail now, you can join the thread then later.
[19:21] <falktx> stupid network, I lost all meeting
[19:21] <falktx> can someone point me to the log file?
[19:21] <falktx> thanks
[19:22] <astraljava> falktx: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-06-17.00.moin.txt
[19:23] <falktx> astraljava: ok, thanks, I'll read all that soon
[22:43] <scott-upstairs> astraljava, wow, meetingology bloody rocks!
[22:43] <scott-upstairs> i've been reviewing the log from the meeting, it does a good job of it
[22:44] <knome> hey scott-upstairs :)
[22:45] <scott-upstairs> hi knome!  how are you doing?
[22:45] <scott-upstairs> aren't you back early?
[22:45] <knome> fine!
[22:45] <knome> nope
[22:46] <knome> the deadline was 24 hours and 45 mins ago
[22:47] <scott-upstairs> did you see my updated website blueprint?  i think i'm started to get the _jena se qua_ of the website now
[22:47] <knome> i did, briefly :)
[22:47] <scott-upstairs> i had a helluvva good time at uds and now have lots and lots i want to get done :)
[22:47] <knome> that's what happens after uds
[22:47] <knome> don't burn yourself out
[22:49] <astraljava> scott-upstairs: Yeah, we have a lot to thank for Alan.
[22:50] <knome> pope?
[22:50] <scott-upstairs> knome, after an initial flurry of activity i want to focus on keeping others active
[22:50] <astraljava> No, Bell.
[22:50] <scott-upstairs> although i realize that there are many items that i have already committed as well
[22:50] <knome> scott-upstairs, that's what i want to do with xubuntu too
[22:50] <knome> scott-upstairs, we probably should really cooperate more
[22:51] <scott-upstairs> knome, i agree
[22:52] <scott-upstairs> the biggest concern i have about that is the lack of bodies from ubuntu studio
[22:52] <scott-upstairs> well, and people who can really tackle some of these issues and get it done
[22:52] <scott-upstairs> (myself included)
[22:52] <knome> i don't think it's about bodycount ;)
[22:52] <knome> it's more like, try to organize stuff together
[22:52] <knome> even if we had our own projects
[22:52] <knome> but try not to duplicate work, at least
[22:53] <scott-upstairs> knome, well, i'm basically planning on stealing what xubuntu has done for the theme,UI, icon set
[22:53] <scott-upstairs> is that collaborating?
[22:53] <scott-upstairs> ;)
[22:54] <scott-upstairs> although i have been trying to get falktx and madnick to work together on the lightdm stuff
[22:54] <knome> in a way, yeah
[22:54] <knome> we're working on something really cool, like an easter egg
[22:54] <scott-upstairs> i had seen a really great image as a prototype of the lightdm i wanted to get as an example
[22:54] <knome> a game for plymouth when you get the occasional disk check
[22:54] <scott-upstairs> and i wanted to use it to base the lightdm and wallpaper on
[22:54] <scott-upstairs> madnick showed me the game, that's bloody impressive
[22:54] <knome> yeah ;)
[22:55] <knome> the pacman game was a bit unresponsive though
[22:55] <knome> we might go with something like mastermind
[22:55] <madnick> i showed the lightdm game :)
[22:55] <knome> ih
[22:55] <knome> oh
[22:55] <knome> ;)
[22:56] <scott-upstairs> if i could get someone to email me back with that image i wanted a theme across the lightdm and wallpaper images, but i don't think it's going to happen :(
[22:56] <scott-upstairs> i should have taken a bloody picture when i was in that session :/
[22:56] <knome> you don't have the image anymore?
[22:56] <knome> awwh
[22:56] <knome> :)
[22:58] <scott-upstairs> the basic thrust was that it incorporate the dot graph image that is pervasive these days, but done somewhat subtly
[22:58] <scott-upstairs> in lighter parts of the image it was not visible, against the darker areas it was
[22:58] <knome> hmmh
[22:58] <knome> right
[22:58] <knome> what was the image about then
[22:58] <scott-upstairs> the image was a landscape, lots of green
[22:59] <scott-upstairs> a lake on the bottom right with mountains in the back
[22:59] <scott-upstairs> the graph looked like it almost faded from top left corner to the bottom right
[22:59] <scott-upstairs> i was inspired to consider doing that to the ubuntu studio CoF as well, almost on a microscale
[23:00] <scott-upstairs> so if our wallpaper was a graph that was visible top left and faded to bottom right
[23:00] <scott-upstairs> our cof would be located in the bottom right
[23:00] <madnick> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79250654/login_screen_v02_WP.mov
[23:00] <scott-upstairs> the cof would be graph top left and transition to normal at bottom right
[23:01] <scott-upstairs> i am downloading that movie now
[23:01]  * knome too
[23:01] <scott-upstairs> i have seen another movie but i cannot tell that this is the same one or not yet
[23:01] <madnick> sorry sorry, it is wrong, i found it in the design document
[23:01] <madnick> but it is the wrong video, its supposed to be Ö"_long.mov"
[23:01] <scott-upstairs> i emailed john.lea about it but i don't know that he will respond or not
[23:01] <madnick> but that one is gone
[23:02] <scott-upstairs> it's okay, it frees us up to work together
[23:02] <scott-upstairs> i blelieve what i saw was only an image
[23:02] <scott-upstairs> and it was only pulled up to explain a point during a discussion
[23:02] <knome> probably
[23:02] <scott-upstairs> i don't think it was intended to be included
[23:02] <knome> shouldn't be too hard to do what you described thoug
[23:02] <knome> +h
[23:05] <scott-upstairs> knome, for some with graphic designing experience or skills it shouldn't be ;)
[23:06] <scott-upstairs> but i have longed to have thematic qualities across lightdm, wallpaper, et al
[23:06] <knome> mm-hmm
[23:06] <knome> of course
[23:07] <scott-upstairs> getting someone artistically bent to help us would be nice and unfortunately those of which i am aware (canonical/ubuntu guys) obviously already have work to do ;)
[23:08] <knome> i suppose i could help if there is nobody else showing up
[23:09] <scott-upstairs> we should also talk to falktx when he is around as well, he has an artistic eye, if not somewhat dark
[23:10] <knome> mmh
[23:10] <knome> my eye is blueish
[23:11] <scott-upstairs> i almost wouldn't mind an overall grey thematic quality, almost with greyscale images
[23:11] <knome> :)
[23:12] <scott-upstairs> http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Ambiance+dark?content=132875
[23:12] <scott-upstairs> i like this desktop, others do not and i will not force this upon them
[23:12] <knome> dark themes have their problems
[23:14] <scott-upstairs> i am partial to the greybird theme, i find it very easthically pleasing in it's elegance and simplicity
[23:14] <scott-upstairs> practically perfect for what i think ubuntu studio should use
[23:15] <scott-upstairs> now, if we could manage some art work that reflects this state
[23:16] <scott-upstairs> a grey scale ubuntu studio cof might be nice
[23:18] <knome> scott-upstairs, the same that is in the logo now?
[23:18] <scott-upstairs> could be but doesn't have to be
[23:18] <scott-upstairs> this is a migration for ubuntu studio, in my opinion
[23:18] <scott-upstairs> a journey
[23:18] <knome> if not, what are you thinking about then?
[23:19] <scott-upstairs> knome, i don't have a definitive vision for it
[23:19] <scott-upstairs> but i don't think we need to be beholden to what has been done
[23:19] <scott-upstairs> i would like to nod to the past, but not repeat it
[23:19] <knome> mmhmm
[23:20] <scott-upstairs> knome, did you see the new start trek (2009)?
[23:20] <scott-upstairs> star, not start
[23:20] <scott-upstairs> are you also a fan of previous star trek's?
[23:20] <knome> nope, i'm not really into scifi or fantasy :)
[23:21] <scott-upstairs> ah, it's okay
[23:21] <knome> heh, of COURSE it's okay ;)
[23:21] <scott-upstairs> lol
[23:22] <astraljava> No, not really. Get outta this channel.
[23:22] <scott-upstairs> the new star trek is not just a remake of the previous star trek, it is a reboot
[23:22] <scott-upstairs> basically, the new star trek ackowledged the previous star trek movies, but did not follow the same story
[23:22] <scott-upstairs> it was a derivative rewrite of it
[23:22] <knome> astraljava, get out of the #xubuntu channels ;)
[23:22] <scott-upstairs> lol
[23:22] <astraljava> Damnit.
[23:23] <scott-upstairs> i would be very interested if someone would make something clever-clever for a new CoF that was new and fresh, while still acknowledging the old
[23:23] <knome> scott-upstairs, i see
[23:23] <scott-upstairs> but since i don't really ahve a crisp vision, i do not pursue at this time
[23:23] <scott-upstairs> we (and i) have enough to do as it is
[23:24] <astraljava> CoF?
[23:24] <knome> circle of friends
[23:24] <madnick> circle of friends
[23:24] <astraljava> Ahh... ok.
[23:24] <scott-upstairs> our cof is based on the concept of 'sound waves'
[23:25] <scott-upstairs> i wouldn't mind playing off of that or change the colors or converting to grey scale
[23:25] <scott-upstairs> or have it transition from full, solid shapes into the graph or doted lines
[23:26] <scott-upstairs> ooh, ooh, ooh...here's something:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[23:26] <scott-upstairs> look at the CoF in the background, top right
[23:26] <knome> heh!
[23:26] <scott-upstairs> what if the cof start top left as dots, then transitioned to how it is now?
[23:26] <scott-upstairs> or something similar
[23:27] <scott-upstairs> but if i had one goal, it would be to thematically tie in all our art with a single concept and i think the graph would be it to also tie in with ubuntu
[23:27] <scott-upstairs> perhaps done subtly or different, not to look too derivative, but still there
[23:29] <scott-upstairs> i also was made aware of design.ubuntu.com at uds
[23:29] <scott-upstairs> so many new places to look and read and be inspired :)
[23:29] <knome> isn't it quite new
[23:29] <scott-upstairs> well, it's 'new' to me :P
[23:29] <scott-upstairs> and i'm starting to use ubuntu monospace for my desktop as well
[23:30] <knome> afaik it's objectively new
[23:31] <madnick> it is a really great font
[23:32] <micahg> scott-upstairs: let me know when you're ready to try some simple merges (after this week)
[23:33] <scott-upstairs> micahg, defintely after this week ;)  i'm trying to get many things done after learning so much at uds :)
[23:33] <scott-upstairs> micahg, but i am very interested in doing so
[23:34]  * micahg sync'd blender last night
[23:37]  * scott-upstairs really likes blender
[23:39]  * knome wants to use /me too
[23:39] <astraljava> sheep
[23:41] <scott-upstairs> oops, wife is home, have to help with getting groceries inside
[23:41] <knome> lol
[23:41] <knome> good luck !!
[23:58] <scott-upstairs> back
[23:59] <scott-upstairs> working on several wiki pages and want to get many emails out tonight
[23:59] <scott-upstairs> i'm probably geeking out on the emails, but i was really touched by the people i met at uds