[00:05] hi Kokito [00:06] hey ScottL !! How was UDS? [00:23] oh, everyone quits :/ [02:04] I wasn't able to boot into the -lowlatency available at aboganis ppa [02:04] I'm recompiling my own kernel now [02:05] Not that hard to do, really. Just takes some time [02:05] Also, I suspect some of alessio's configs are out of date [02:09] Compiling kernels take time :/ [02:37] damn, lost connection and ScottL with it... [06:22] ok heres the scoop [06:22] 1lbs ground lamb [06:22] 1 clove grown garlic [06:23] mince the garlic by hand with a curved knife [06:23] spice a cast iron pan [06:23] oregeno oil extract [06:23] warm [06:23] add garlic to pan and a bit of lamb for lamb fat [06:23] warm again [06:23] rub oil into the poresof the iron [06:24] now take the lamb [06:24] sprinkle cavenders greek seasoning on the surface [06:24] imitate if you have high blood pressure [06:24] knead meat with fingers [06:24] use rest of garlic knead in along ith [06:24] with [06:25] squeeze the meet between your knuckles [06:25] turn pan up slap on pan cook til done [06:27] save oil for dipping in pita bread [06:40] eat in remembrance of Jesus Christ [06:40] oops wrong channel [06:44] I'm sure there's a lot of data to collect from testing kernels, but after recompiling and installing my own -lowlatency, compared to -generic, I don't even need to do any tests [06:44] It's clear as day [06:44] Been working for many hours now, and not a single xrun at 64 frames/period with firewire, while I had xruns with -generic at 1024 frames/period [06:47] there you have it [06:47] tell abogani [09:42] hey knome, welcome back. [10:14] hey stochastic, thanks :) [13:11] wanted mention that a meeting has been scheduled for today, in approximately five hours from now: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Contributor+Meeting&iso=20110904T17 [13:18] here is a first pass meeting notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011September4#preview [14:33] wanted mention that a meeting has been scheduled for today, in approximately five hours from now: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Contributor+Meeting&iso=20110904T17 [14:33] here is a first pass meeting notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011September4 [15:01] I suppose you meant: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Contributor+Meeting&iso=20111106T17 [15:01] And that's only 2 hours from _now_, since no DST anymore. [15:08] * holstein cant be at the meeting today [15:08] i did some dual-head testing though, in XFCE [15:09] if someone has dual-head and would like to test/confirm... i plan on trying it with some other cards (like nvidia) [15:09] the one im testing on now is a well supported intel card [15:10] GridLock in #xubuntu suggested the package 'arandr' and that is working like a champ for me [15:17] Dual-head works for me in XFCE 11.10, but I need to use xrandr so that I get something else than cloned displays. [15:19] astraljava: cool.. thats similar to my findings then [15:20] you you mind to look at arandr? [15:20] I can check it tomorrow, I don't have that display here that I normally use. [15:20] astraljava: what is xrandr part of? [15:20] astraljava: yeah, no hurry [15:20] x11-xserver-utils: /usr/bin/xrandr [15:21] OK [15:21] i think arandr is just a GUI for that [15:22] right now, im thinking it would be nice to include arandr, and label them in the menu properly [15:22] otherwise, we have the current one from xfce for 'cloned' [15:24] Yeah. Might be a good idea. I remember the Display settings cannot be used to get that effect. [15:25] if its just a matter of including a small package, why not right? [15:25] Yep. [15:29] I tried this yesterday with ATI, oh the pain :) arandr works fine, if i first create a virtual display, but i ended up using ati-config + xinerama [15:30] madnick: DATA! [15:30] thats good to know [15:30] madnick: Good to know, we can document that. [15:30] yeah, i mean, if something *can* work easily out of the box, thats great [15:31] i think most folks know when their graphics cards are going to be a pain [16:09] good information about multi-head, i'll see about testing some later this afternoon too [16:24] hm, it seems like I can't be present in this meeting (have to go in 30mins) [16:24] ScottL: holstein: what is the irc channel for it? (so I can at least read backscroll when I get back) [16:24] This one. [16:24] oh, ok [16:24] Oh no. [16:24] oops [16:24] #ubuntu-meeting [16:24] ok, I'm on it [16:24] astraljava: thanks [16:24] At least the last time around. [16:24] yeah, so we can use the bot, right astraljava ? [16:25] No prob. [16:25] Yep. [16:56] ScottL, how long from now is the meeting? one hour or five minutes? [16:56] stochastic, i'm sorry for the confusion, five minutes [16:56] astraljava, would you mind handling the bot please? [16:58] Oops, lemme go find the commands. [18:10] Meeting logs from today's meeting can be found @ http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-06-17.00.moin.txt [18:10] I'll send them to the mailing lists as well. [18:16] shnatsel: Did you find the convenient time you talked about? [18:16] astraljava: nope, failed to look it up on time [18:17] It's alright, if you can find it now, please let me know, I'm writing to the list about it as well while announcing the meeting logs. [19:17] shnatsel: Alright, well I'll send the mail now, you can join the thread then later. [19:21] stupid network, I lost all meeting [19:21] can someone point me to the log file? [19:21] thanks [19:22] falktx: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-06-17.00.moin.txt [19:23] astraljava: ok, thanks, I'll read all that soon [22:43] astraljava, wow, meetingology bloody rocks! [22:43] i've been reviewing the log from the meeting, it does a good job of it [22:44] hey scott-upstairs :) [22:45] hi knome! how are you doing? [22:45] aren't you back early? [22:45] fine! [22:45] nope [22:46] the deadline was 24 hours and 45 mins ago [22:47] did you see my updated website blueprint? i think i'm started to get the _jena se qua_ of the website now [22:47] i did, briefly :) [22:47] i had a helluvva good time at uds and now have lots and lots i want to get done :) [22:47] that's what happens after uds [22:47] don't burn yourself out [22:49] scott-upstairs: Yeah, we have a lot to thank for Alan. [22:50] pope? [22:50] knome, after an initial flurry of activity i want to focus on keeping others active [22:50] No, Bell. [22:50] although i realize that there are many items that i have already committed as well [22:50] scott-upstairs, that's what i want to do with xubuntu too [22:50] scott-upstairs, we probably should really cooperate more [22:51] knome, i agree [22:52] the biggest concern i have about that is the lack of bodies from ubuntu studio [22:52] well, and people who can really tackle some of these issues and get it done [22:52] (myself included) [22:52] i don't think it's about bodycount ;) [22:52] it's more like, try to organize stuff together [22:52] even if we had our own projects [22:52] but try not to duplicate work, at least [22:53] knome, well, i'm basically planning on stealing what xubuntu has done for the theme,UI, icon set [22:53] is that collaborating? [22:53] ;) [22:54] although i have been trying to get falktx and madnick to work together on the lightdm stuff [22:54] in a way, yeah [22:54] we're working on something really cool, like an easter egg [22:54] i had seen a really great image as a prototype of the lightdm i wanted to get as an example [22:54] a game for plymouth when you get the occasional disk check [22:54] and i wanted to use it to base the lightdm and wallpaper on [22:54] madnick showed me the game, that's bloody impressive [22:54] yeah ;) [22:55] the pacman game was a bit unresponsive though [22:55] we might go with something like mastermind [22:55] i showed the lightdm game :) [22:55] ih [22:55] oh [22:55] ;) [22:56] if i could get someone to email me back with that image i wanted a theme across the lightdm and wallpaper images, but i don't think it's going to happen :( [22:56] i should have taken a bloody picture when i was in that session :/ [22:56] you don't have the image anymore? [22:56] awwh [22:56] :) [22:58] the basic thrust was that it incorporate the dot graph image that is pervasive these days, but done somewhat subtly [22:58] in lighter parts of the image it was not visible, against the darker areas it was [22:58] hmmh [22:58] right [22:58] what was the image about then [22:58] the image was a landscape, lots of green [22:59] a lake on the bottom right with mountains in the back [22:59] the graph looked like it almost faded from top left corner to the bottom right [22:59] i was inspired to consider doing that to the ubuntu studio CoF as well, almost on a microscale [23:00] so if our wallpaper was a graph that was visible top left and faded to bottom right [23:00] our cof would be located in the bottom right [23:00] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/79250654/login_screen_v02_WP.mov [23:00] the cof would be graph top left and transition to normal at bottom right [23:01] i am downloading that movie now [23:01] * knome too [23:01] i have seen another movie but i cannot tell that this is the same one or not yet [23:01] sorry sorry, it is wrong, i found it in the design document [23:01] but it is the wrong video, its supposed to be Ö"_long.mov" [23:01] i emailed john.lea about it but i don't know that he will respond or not [23:01] but that one is gone [23:02] it's okay, it frees us up to work together [23:02] i blelieve what i saw was only an image [23:02] and it was only pulled up to explain a point during a discussion [23:02] probably [23:02] i don't think it was intended to be included [23:02] shouldn't be too hard to do what you described thoug [23:02] +h [23:05] knome, for some with graphic designing experience or skills it shouldn't be ;) [23:06] but i have longed to have thematic qualities across lightdm, wallpaper, et al [23:06] mm-hmm [23:06] of course [23:07] getting someone artistically bent to help us would be nice and unfortunately those of which i am aware (canonical/ubuntu guys) obviously already have work to do ;) [23:08] i suppose i could help if there is nobody else showing up [23:09] we should also talk to falktx when he is around as well, he has an artistic eye, if not somewhat dark [23:10] mmh [23:10] my eye is blueish [23:11] i almost wouldn't mind an overall grey thematic quality, almost with greyscale images [23:11] :) [23:12] http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Ambiance+dark?content=132875 [23:12] i like this desktop, others do not and i will not force this upon them [23:12] dark themes have their problems [23:14] i am partial to the greybird theme, i find it very easthically pleasing in it's elegance and simplicity [23:14] practically perfect for what i think ubuntu studio should use [23:15] now, if we could manage some art work that reflects this state [23:16] a grey scale ubuntu studio cof might be nice [23:18] scott-upstairs, the same that is in the logo now? [23:18] could be but doesn't have to be [23:18] this is a migration for ubuntu studio, in my opinion [23:18] a journey [23:18] if not, what are you thinking about then? [23:19] knome, i don't have a definitive vision for it [23:19] but i don't think we need to be beholden to what has been done [23:19] i would like to nod to the past, but not repeat it [23:19] mmhmm [23:20] knome, did you see the new start trek (2009)? [23:20] star, not start [23:20] are you also a fan of previous star trek's? [23:20] nope, i'm not really into scifi or fantasy :) [23:21] ah, it's okay [23:21] heh, of COURSE it's okay ;) [23:21] lol [23:22] No, not really. Get outta this channel. [23:22] the new star trek is not just a remake of the previous star trek, it is a reboot [23:22] basically, the new star trek ackowledged the previous star trek movies, but did not follow the same story [23:22] it was a derivative rewrite of it [23:22] astraljava, get out of the #xubuntu channels ;) [23:22] lol [23:22] Damnit. [23:23] i would be very interested if someone would make something clever-clever for a new CoF that was new and fresh, while still acknowledging the old [23:23] scott-upstairs, i see [23:23] but since i don't really ahve a crisp vision, i do not pursue at this time [23:23] we (and i) have enough to do as it is [23:24] CoF? [23:24] circle of friends [23:24] circle of friends [23:24] Ahh... ok. [23:24] our cof is based on the concept of 'sound waves' [23:25] i wouldn't mind playing off of that or change the colors or converting to grey scale [23:25] or have it transition from full, solid shapes into the graph or doted lines [23:26] ooh, ooh, ooh...here's something: http://developer.ubuntu.com/ [23:26] look at the CoF in the background, top right [23:26] heh! [23:26] what if the cof start top left as dots, then transitioned to how it is now? [23:26] or something similar [23:27] but if i had one goal, it would be to thematically tie in all our art with a single concept and i think the graph would be it to also tie in with ubuntu [23:27] perhaps done subtly or different, not to look too derivative, but still there [23:29] i also was made aware of design.ubuntu.com at uds [23:29] so many new places to look and read and be inspired :) [23:29] isn't it quite new [23:29] well, it's 'new' to me :P [23:29] and i'm starting to use ubuntu monospace for my desktop as well [23:30] afaik it's objectively new [23:31] it is a really great font [23:32] scott-upstairs: let me know when you're ready to try some simple merges (after this week) [23:33] micahg, defintely after this week ;) i'm trying to get many things done after learning so much at uds :) [23:33] micahg, but i am very interested in doing so [23:34] * micahg sync'd blender last night [23:37] * scott-upstairs really likes blender [23:39] * knome wants to use /me too [23:39] sheep [23:41] oops, wife is home, have to help with getting groceries inside [23:41] lol [23:41] good luck !! [23:58] back [23:59] working on several wiki pages and want to get many emails out tonight [23:59] i'm probably geeking out on the emails, but i was really touched by the people i met at uds