[01:31] <cjohnston> alourie: your welcome
[05:09] <alourie> cjohnston: askjorge is yours? amazing...
[05:09] <alourie> :-)
[06:32] <alourie> good morning
[08:23] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:38] <dholbach> good morning
[08:39] <jussi> Morning dholbach. Back in .de then?
[08:39] <dholbach> yep :)
[08:40] <jussi> dholbach: good trip ?
[08:40] <dholbach> not too eventful, so good :)
[08:47]  * popey hugs dholbach 
[08:50] <AlanBell> akgraner: the gery carr interview restarts at about 9:30 and plays again
[08:54] <duanedesign> good morning
[08:54] <duanedesign> hope everyone is making back to their home bases safely
[08:54]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[09:46] <czajkowski> just in the door
[10:01] <jussi> wb czajkowski
[10:04] <nigelb> Morning popey, dholbach!
[10:24] <dholbach> hi nigelb, czajkowski
[11:23] <Pendulum> czajkowski: hiya!
[11:29] <czajkowski> Pendulum: ello
[11:29] <Pendulum> czajkowski: Lucy was my roomie last night instead of you. It was sad :(
[11:30] <czajkowski> :(
[12:33] <nigelb> jussi: around?
[14:03] <scott-work> good morning :)
[14:28] <duanedesign> cjohnston: /`4
[14:28] <duanedesign> oops
[14:28] <cjohnston> lol
[14:28] <cjohnston> o/
[14:28] <duanedesign> o/
[14:28] <cjohnston> did you see the conversation in #ubuntuone?
[14:29] <duanedesign> i did not, looking now
[14:31] <duanedesign> cjohnston: that is interesting. I did not know that. Glad you asked about it :)
[15:01] <akgraner> AlanBell, I'll email that film crew , but they aren't back in England yet
[15:01] <akgraner> that part is out of my hands :-) but I can email them and let them sort it out when they get to their office on Tuesday..Thanks
[15:02] <akgraner> I'll be afk for most of the day today.  Taking some much needed vacation time and re-grouping :-)
[15:03] <cjohnston> no vacation for akgraner :-P
[15:03] <akgraner> cjohnston, oh I can find you mister - I am still in FL mind you! :-P
[15:03] <cjohnston> lol
[15:03] <cjohnston> I'll give you directions
[15:04] <akgraner> hehehe
[15:04] <nigelb> just astart a fre
[15:04] <nigelb> err
[15:04] <nigelb> akgraner: just start a fire. He'll come to you.
[15:04] <akgraner> Please give your wife a proper hug from me...I am sorry I couldn't hang out will you all very much...
[15:04] <cjohnston> will do
[15:04] <akgraner> hopefully we can fix that next time you are in Banner elk
[15:05] <cjohnston> :-)
[15:05] <cjohnston> im trying to plan out time off for next year..
[15:05] <cjohnston> i have to pick my vacation next week
[15:09] <akgraner> have fun and I hope we'll get to see you all in my neck of the woods next year again
[15:09] <cjohnston> i hope so too
[15:09] <akgraner> well off to hang out with the family  - more tomorrow
[15:10] <cjohnston> be safe!
[15:43] <scott-work> good morning
[15:43] <scott-work> wow, i'm looking at the people in this channel and i'm amazed at the number of you that i met at uds-p, that's bloody amazing :-)
[15:48] <nigelb> scott-work: yeah, at least 18 people in here wwere at UDS
[15:49] <scott-work> i thought is was a remarkle and life changing experience, nigelb
[15:50] <scott-work> seriously, i don't want to do my work here at work, i just want to work on ubuntu now :)
[15:50] <scott-work> s/i thought is was/i thought it was
[15:51] <nigelb> scott-work: I totally know that feeling :)
[15:54] <dholbach> dpm, jcastro: do you know if Jono was going to show up today? or if there were 1-on-1 calls?
[15:54] <czajkowski> scott-work: yay
[15:54] <jcastro> dholbach: not sure
[15:54] <jcastro> I'm kind of off today, I said I'd be responsive over email
[15:54] <jcastro> but it ends up I'm just working, hah
[15:55] <dholbach> :-/
[15:55] <dholbach> go out and play
[15:55] <scott-work> hi czajkowski , how are you feeling today?  still up from yesterday?
[15:55] <czajkowski> scott-work: yup
[15:56] <czajkowski> scott-work: staying up till my bf comes home have dinner with him then I'm gonna sleep
[15:56] <czajkowski> am really tired
[15:56] <cjohnston> thats cause you are so dedicated jcastro
[15:56] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/album/426006  for folks not on fb pics of UDS mosly of Friday night
[15:56] <dpm> dholbach, I don't know. Generally we don't have the 1-1's after UDS or sprints, but I'm not sure if he wants to have them. I've also got my 1-1 with him today and I don't know if he wants to have it
[15:58] <dholbach> thanks dpm
[16:10] <cjohnston> dholbach: jono showed up :-)
[16:11] <jono> hey cjohnston
[16:11] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:11] <dholbach> jono, 1-on-1 today?
[16:11] <jono> hey dholbach
[16:11] <jono> dholbach, yup
[16:11] <cjohnston> o/
[16:11] <dholbach> alright
[16:11] <dholbach> dpm ^
[16:12] <jono> dholbach, my call with dpm is in 15 mins
[16:12] <jono> and then with you dholbach in 1hr 15
[16:12] <jono> is that what you are expecting?
[16:12] <dholbach> yep
[16:12] <jono> I know there has been some TZ changes
[16:12] <dholbach> just wasn't sure if we'd talk right after UDS or if you were still travelling, etc.
[16:12] <jono> np
[16:12] <jono> I figured we will review you BPs
[16:18] <scott-work> good morning jono :)
[16:18] <scott-work> czajkowski: you know all the hair and beard i had?  i don't have it anymore ;)
[16:18] <scott-work> wife has been bugging me to cut it for a while, i'm pretty cleanly shorn now
[16:19] <jono> hey scott-work
[16:25] <scott-work> jono: i was saying in channel how much uds-p meant to me and how i don't want to do my regular job, i just want to work on ubuntu
[16:25] <scott-work> i grossly underestimated how powerful uds's are
[16:26] <nigelb> Ah. dholbach is working on BPs.
[16:27] <dholbach> nigelb, want some work items?
[16:27] <nigelb> dholbach: I have plenty, do you want some?
[16:27] <dholbach> no, thanks that's very kind, but no, I can't complain
[16:28] <nigelb> heh
[16:28] <nigelb> dholbach: I managed to get little in the way of formal action items this time. But I have enough scheduled work :)
[16:28]  * cjohnston assigns every summit work item to nigelb 
[16:32] <mhall119> hey jcastro, would you have time in the next week or two to run a classroom session on how community teams can make use of trello?
[16:32] <mhall119> we've going to use it for the community-web team
[16:32] <cjohnston> +2
[16:32] <jcastro> sure
[16:32] <jcastro> sure
[16:32] <cjohnston> jcastro rocks
[16:32] <jcastro> though I still need to have my work in work items, so I'm going to just mirror them
[16:33] <jcastro> we can just bust out a quick google hangout
[16:33] <jcastro> it takes about 15 minutes
[16:33] <cjohnston> thats prolly what we are going to do
[16:43] <scott-work> dholbach: scott lavender here, i'm tasked on one of the documentation blueprints, but please do not hesitate to poke me as necessary as i will probably get distracted by ubuntu studio development
[16:44] <dholbach> scott-work, thanks alot - will do :-)
[16:44] <jcastro> man
[16:44] <jcastro> my bp's are a mess
[16:44] <jcastro> I wish we could just inline etherpad into blueprints
[16:45] <nigelb> lol, one of jcastro's BP is to clean up a BP.
[16:45] <jcastro> so I don't have to copy and paste crap
[16:45] <nigelb> jcastro: We could.
[16:45] <nigelb> File a bug.
[16:45] <nigelb> Not this cycle though
[16:45] <jcastro> I'm not scared about you guys
[16:45] <jcastro> I'm scared about lp
[16:46] <nigelb> jcastro: I hack on LP. Nothing to be worried about. The week before UDS, mhall119 was asking me something about BPs and I didn't know. I eventually looked at the source, because, y'know, its in my computer ;)
[16:47] <scott-work> i'm pretty lucky, i only had a single bp and andy and other kernel guys were pretty disciplined during the session, i only had minor touch ups after the session
[16:51]  * cjohnston will assign scott-work many BPs
[16:51] <jcastro> cjohnston: mhall119 we could do a hangout today if you guys want
[16:51] <mhall119> jcastro: sure
[16:51] <jcastro> I'm mostly just cleaning up my BPs and prepping for travel
[16:52] <cjohnston> i cant do it till thursday
[16:52] <cjohnston> im at work today
[16:52] <jcastro> k
[16:52] <jcastro> mhall119: we can do a quick one today and then link up with cjohnston
[16:52] <jcastro> if you want
[16:52] <mhall119> nigelb: are you available today?
[16:53] <mhall119> though this was cjohnston's initiative, so it might be better to just wait, if you'll be available thursday
[16:53] <nigelb> cjohnston: Yep
[16:53] <jcastro> cool
[16:53] <nigelb> err mhall119 - yep
[16:53] <cjohnston> i dont really care.. yall can do it without me.. i can catch up thursday
[16:53] <nigelb> mhall119: Tomorrow is a busy day. I need to run around for a visa.
[16:53] <cjohnston> tomorrow is tuesday nigelb
[16:53] <mhall119> I can be available whenever is good for the rest of you
[16:54] <nigelb> sam here.
[16:54] <nigelb> *same here
[16:54] <nigelb> as long as its at a reasonable time.
[16:54] <nigelb> (morning for you guys is my best time)
[16:56] <cjohnston> mhall119: nigelb jcastro thursday at 10?
[16:56] <cjohnston> est
[16:56] <jcastro> sure, whatever
[16:56] <mhall119> sounds good
[16:56] <nigelb> yep, wfm.
[16:57] <mhall119> I have a team call at 11, but we should be done by then
[16:57] <jcastro> we suck if it takes more than 10 minutes
[16:57] <mhall119> heh
[16:57] <nigelb> Do you guys really want to do a hangout?
[16:58] <mhall119> do you have a better way?
[16:58] <nigelb> skype?
[16:58] <nigelb> or audio-only hangout.
[16:58] <mhall119> it will be audio-only for me
[16:58] <mhall119> I don't have a webcam
[16:58] <nigelb> heh
[16:58] <jcastro> cjohnston: when are you turning on precise statuses?
[16:59] <cjohnston> jcastro: they are on
[16:59] <nigelb> mhall119: I don't think 0.4 is on PyPI.
[16:59] <cjohnston> status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/
[16:59] <cjohnston> nigelb: i looked and could swear it was
[16:59] <mhall119> nigelb: it's not?  I'll ask achuni, I thought he was going to upload it
[16:59] <jcastro> cjohnston: oh right, they need to be approved, etc.
[16:59] <cjohnston> jcastro: i have filed an rt to get the url switched to precise by default
[16:59] <cjohnston> but ya, you need to get Mr. Metal to approve them for precise
[16:59] <jcastro> I bookmarked by precise one
[17:00] <jcastro> it's just none of them are approved  yet.
[17:00] <cjohnston> Everyone should have an invite for the trello meeting on thursday
[17:05] <jcastro> here's how the classroom one is done
[17:05] <jcastro> https://trello.com/board/classroom/4e94f7afaef5aa0000a5d2ea
[17:06] <jcastro> which is different than the normal todo -> doing -> done
[17:06] <jcastro> (check out the subtasks on the back of each card, that is ninja)
[17:32] <dholbach> jono, skype? hangout?
[17:33] <jono> dholbach,
[17:33] <jono> hey
[17:33] <jono> firing up a hangout
[17:38] <scott-work> lol cjohnston , we still have our own blueprints for this cycle that weren't for uds
[17:39] <scott-work> but we have been working those for the most part already
[17:39] <scott-work> but i still have two or three more to do
[17:39] <cjohnston> ;-)
[17:39] <scott-work> we have plenty of work at the moment, thank you though ;)
[17:47] <alourie> good evening
[17:53] <bkerensa> AlanBell: How do I retrieve Meetingology Minute if I lost the URL?
[18:16] <AlanBell> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/
[18:16] <AlanBell> start there
[18:17] <jcastro> woo
[18:17] <scott-work> AlanBell: meetingology if bloody fantastic!  we used it for our ubuntu studio meeting on sunday and it's top shelf in usability
[18:17] <scott-work> errr....is, not if
[18:17] <AlanBell> cool :)
[18:21] <dholbach> alright my friends - see you all tomorrow
[18:51] <jcastro> jono: call in 10?
[18:58] <jono> jcastro, are your blueprints completed?
[18:59] <jcastro> pretty much
[18:59] <jono> with all work items
[18:59] <jcastro> not finalized though
[18:59] <jcastro> ready to discuss though
[19:02] <jono> jcastro, I want to review the finalized blueprints with all the actions set
[19:02] <jono> we can do this on Fri if you like
[19:02] <jcastro> nod
[19:02] <jono> that is when I am doing Daniel and David's
[19:02] <jcastro> sounds good to me
[19:02] <jono> cool
[19:04] <scott-work> i hope to get all of ubuntu studio's blueprints to kate tonight
[19:21] <bkerensa> jono: Does your team manage the Ubuntu page on FB?
[19:21] <jono> bkerensa, no
[19:21] <jono> bkerensa, although I am an admin
[19:22] <bkerensa> jono: ok well I was just going to mention G+ is launching pages today :P
[19:22] <jono> bkerensa, cool
[19:27] <jussi> bkerensa: only extra cool people get access today though
[19:28] <bkerensa> jussi: Solution = E-mail Bradley Horowitz who VP of the G+ Product :P
[19:28] <bkerensa> he got me into G+ the day it launched :P
[19:29] <jussi> bkerensa: aww
[19:29] <bkerensa> jussi: But I use G+ more than FB these days so I hope to see a +Ubuntu page :)
[19:30] <jussi> bkerensa: same actually
[19:30] <bkerensa> jussi: Just to much nonsense hoaxes and game request spam on FB ;)
[19:31] <jcastro> FARM ME.
[19:31] <jussi> bkerensa: and all those "fb is turning to pay site!"
[19:31]  * jussi digs holes in jcastro
[19:32] <bkerensa> Ubuntuville
[19:32] <bkerensa> ;)
[19:32] <scott-work> any idea when g+ is opening this up for everyone, bkerensa ?
[19:32] <scott-work> i would love to secure +ubuntustudio
[19:32] <jussi> bkerensa: you can email him and tell him to give me a page :)
[19:33] <bkerensa> scott-work: Supposedly it is supposed to roll out over this week but I'm not privy to such :P I don't have access yet but I did ping Bradley Horowitz
[19:36] <bkerensa> OMG
[19:36]  * bkerensa found a loophole in their page creation
[19:36] <bkerensa> =o
[19:36] <jcastro> Get me in there!
[19:36] <jussi> well, cough it up :D
[19:36] <bkerensa> https://plus.google.com/pages/create
[19:36] <bkerensa> ok
[19:36] <bkerensa> go there
[19:36] <bkerensa> it will do a popup saying you cant get in right?
[19:36] <bkerensa> will
[19:36] <jussi> yup
[19:37] <bkerensa> refresh the page and click on that pop up but before it redirects you it will give you a quick second
[19:37] <bkerensa> to click one of the unhighlighted buttons
[19:37] <AlanBell> and if you hack the CSS and turn off the overlay and popup, it still doesn't work but it does let you fill out the form :)
[19:37] <bkerensa> =o
[19:37] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Yeah I just got that far
[19:37] <bkerensa> but without hacking the CSS
[19:37] <bkerensa> :(
[19:37] <AlanBell> firebug is great
[19:38] <bkerensa> just uber-fast clicking
[19:38] <AlanBell> oh, I filled out the form and hit submit
[19:38] <AlanBell> create rather
[19:39] <jussi> AlanBell: :(
[19:40] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Did it work?
[19:40] <AlanBell> no, error submitting form
[19:42] <jussi> aww: "Error creating page. Please try again"
[19:43]  * bkerensa has never used FireBug so no idea how to remove the CSS element
[19:43] <AlanBell> jussi: we have failed to outwit google
[19:44] <jussi> AlanBell: sadly. next time Ill win!
[19:44] <jussi> :P
[19:44] <AlanBell> firebug is awesome, but don't start learning it with G+ pages
[19:47] <bkerensa> AlanBell: What do you get if you win?
[19:47] <bkerensa> :D
[19:47]  * Pendulum is safely home with power and heat!
[19:49] <AlanBell> great!
[19:50] <bkerensa> AlanBell & Jussi:
[19:50] <bkerensa> Bradley Horowitiz
[19:50] <bkerensa> just commented on my G+
[19:50] <bkerensa> he said pages will be globally live in seconds
[19:50] <jussi> :D
[19:50] <AlanBell> I am not in a hurry, I wanted to be cheeky more than I wanted a G+ page
[19:51] <jussi> I actually want the page...
[19:51] <scott-work> hi Pendulum , that is great that you have power and heat!  i'm glad to have met you face to face at uds :)
[19:52] <scott-work> by the way, scott-work = scott lavender (ubuntu studio guy) at work ;)
[19:52] <bkerensa> lol
[19:52] <bkerensa> jussi: G+ Page Land Grab
[19:53]  * bkerensa sets a script to refresh the page creation url
[19:53] <Pendulum> scott-work: I know who you are. It was good to meet you too :)
[19:55] <mhall119> Pendulum: home?
[19:55] <Pendulum> mhall119: yes. Was about to text Michelle to let her know
[19:56] <Pendulum> house seems to be fine, I am fine, there is heat and power and internet. Anywhere there were trees looks a bit disasterous (and there may or may not still be a tree there)
[20:03] <mhall119> well, at least you have the essentials
[20:17] <cjohnston> http://status.ubuntu.com is now displaying the 'precise' cycle
[20:29] <scott-work> that's a really pretty page
[20:29] <scott-work> i don't mean it being for precise, specifically
[20:29] <scott-work> i just mean that especially compared to some of the wiki stuff, this is a very well designed page
[21:00] <scott-work> for those curious about me cutting my hair and beard after uds:  https://plus.google.com/100313956509426913392/posts/dWQVYkdDGv6
[21:06] <cjohnston> that looks like it was a lot of work
[21:06] <jcastro> hahaha WOW.
[21:07] <czajkowski> scott-work: totally different person there
[21:07] <czajkowski> scott-work: you look great either way
[21:10] <scott-work> yeah, it's quite different
[21:10] <scott-work> czajkowski: you'll make me blush ;)
[21:11] <bkerensa> Hey guys
[21:11] <jcastro> I AM IN.
[21:11] <bkerensa> go create a G+ page for your locos
[21:11] <bkerensa> https://plus.google.com/u/0/103209052804909343382/posts
[21:11] <bkerensa> :P
[21:12] <bkerensa> Ubuntu Oregon is first G+Ubuntu related page ;P
[21:18] <jcastro> snagged juju
[21:21] <bkerensa> lol
[21:21] <cjohnston> now there's some good juju
[21:21] <bkerensa> jcastro: I snagged +Linux
[21:21] <bkerensa> HAR HAR HA
[21:21] <bkerensa> https://plus.google.com/u/0/108734178838301503131/posts
[21:21] <bkerensa> :P
[21:22]  * bkerensa goes on epic G+ page land grab
[21:22] <popey> pffft
[21:22] <popey> I already got UUPC ages ago :D
[21:24] <bkerensa> +Root
[21:24] <bkerensa> :P
[21:27] <popey> isnt that a bit rude?
[21:31] <bkerensa> popey: ?
[21:32] <popey> grabbing trademarked things like +Linux ?
[21:44] <jcastro> jono: ok I have unity and juju
[21:45] <jono> jcastro, yeah I have done most of the rest
[21:45] <jcastro> cool
[21:45] <jcastro> nice timing
[21:45] <jono> :-)
[21:45] <jcastro> I've been posting links from the youtube channel
[21:45] <jcastro> which is trivial to do
[21:45] <jono> Jane mailed me almost immediately as soon as they were being registered :-)
[21:45] <jono> yip
[21:45] <jono> yup
[21:45] <jcastro> this will make getting the videos out so much easier
[21:45] <akgraner> :-)
[21:45] <jcastro> I've added the right links on the subpages I own too
[21:46] <jcastro> that will make "+juju" and "+unity" work right in google
[21:46] <jcastro> I just need to find a way to have more than one person manage a site?
[22:15] <topyli> i haven't yet figured out how to go back to pages i created in order to admin them :)
[22:17] <topyli> ah found it
[22:44] <bkerensa> popey: Linux is perpetually sublicensed for free worldwide
[22:44] <bkerensa> ie: Open
[22:51] <popey> I never said it wasn't.
[22:52] <bkerensa> popey: Well then how is it rude to secure it before a spam bot does if the trademark allows such?
[22:54] <popey> How will you hand it over to the Linux Foundation when they ask for it?
[22:54] <popey> s/when/when & if/
[22:57] <bkerensa> popey: Well I e-mailed LMI which technically owns the Mark.... and cc'ed Linux Foundation all prior to securing the page
[22:57] <bkerensa> popey: I kind of doubt they will want it considering they do not manage or own any of the "Linux" pages on other social networks
[22:57] <bkerensa> Linux on Facebook for instance is managed by a guy in Spain
[23:30] <mhall119> hmmm, I created a G+ page for Qimo, tried to mention it on Facebook, and it's dropping those status updated into the void
[23:31] <popey> they're probably getting aggregated with all the other plus updates
[23:32] <popey> "These people mentioned google plus"
[23:32] <popey> oh no, facebook is properly broken
[23:33] <popey> hmm, can't see your post
[23:33] <bkerensa> popey: I informed Google+'s VP of Product so I think everyone is aware about +Linux and why it was created for safeguarding
[23:36] <AlanBell> it doesn't seem to enforce any kind of uniqueness on page names
[23:37] <AlanBell> I think if someone else creates +Linux they can just do it
[23:38] <AlanBell> and their +Linux may or may not be more popular than your version, and one or the other might be reported for removal, but their strategy for name squatting seems to be to let people create dupes, so squatting has no value
[23:41] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Indeed
[23:41] <bkerensa> AlanBell: But then brands pages will have no value either
[23:42] <AlanBell> and nothing of value was lost
[23:42] <bkerensa> someone could create a Amazon page and affiliate link the heck out of it
[23:42] <AlanBell> yeah, they will, because they will have all the followers
[23:42] <bkerensa> and make money on Google's fail to weight pages
[23:52] <mhall119> bkerensa: did you see Linus's comment?
[23:52] <mhall119> Linus Torvalds  -  Junio already created the git one. And I'm trying to create the Linux one, but for some reason Google+ is taking forever thinking about it. I suspect it's doing some kind of background search on the term, and is being confused.
[23:52] <mhall119> Or then it's just everybody else also trying to create a Linux page.
[23:55] <popey> heh, he created it called Linus, not Linux
[23:56] <pleia2> and then called himself a moron, doh :)
[23:56] <popey> :D