| micahg | chrisccoulson: do you have a tarball for Firefox/Thunderbird 8 yet? | 01:05 |
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| neguety | hi everybody | 04:30 |
| neguety | i have a problem with thunderbird, and hasn't been able to solve it up to now | 04:30 |
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| bhearsum | gah, can't stand gnome's new "here let me change your displays for you" behaviour when i plug a monitor in | 13:29 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, oh, is it getting it wrong? | 13:44 |
| bhearsum | chrisccoulson: not totally - the resolutions are perfect, but the orientation is wrong | 13:46 |
| bhearsum | and it automatically reverts every change i try to make, except when i do it directly with xrandr | 13:46 |
| bhearsum | how was UDS? | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson | bhearsum, you should probably open a bug about the display thing :) | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | UDS was pretty good | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | but tiring ;) | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | i hear you guys are following in our footsteps and getting all mobile =-) | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | apparently so | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | is that going to impact your work a lot? | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure. i was quite surprised about the announcement | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | yeah | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | i think the 5 year LTS will have a bigger impact on my work | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | oh, is that new? | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | i thought it was always 5 year... | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, the last LTS was for 3 years, and now we're offering 5 years | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | oooooh | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | that is a VERY long time | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | it was 3 years for the desktop, and 5 for the server | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | man | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | who wants a 5 year old desktop? | 14:21 |
| bhearsum | (and why aren't they using debian stable) | 14:21 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm not looking forward to supporting 5 years ;) | 14:22 |
| bhearsum | that means you have to backport security fixes to really old apps? | 14:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure. apparently the longer support is quite attractive to enterprise environments | 14:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't think of anyone else who would want to use a 5 year old desktop though | 14:22 |
| bhearsum | heh | 14:23 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, we'll have to support applications with security updates for 5 years. not sure how we're going to do that for firefox yet ;) | 14:23 |
| bhearsum | the Firefox story will be interesting. | 14:23 |
| bhearsum | :) | 14:23 |
| bhearsum | kev is supposed to announce an updated ESR this week | 14:23 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, cool | 14:23 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: you do know most people don't actually upgrade their OS, right? | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, then we are totally screwed ;) | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you anyway? | 14:44 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: XP still have like 40% of the desktops currently in use :) | 14:44 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: fine! how was your trip? | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, yeah, it was a bit boring though | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | which i guess is good ;) | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | and there were still no episodes of air-crash investigation on the in-flight entertainment | 14:45 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: so, could that libreoffice window decoration issue be related to unity2d only? | 14:46 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: ah, darn :) | 14:46 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: thanks for uploading firefox/thunderbird 8, grabbing the tarballs now | 15:26 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, I'm going to back out the SRU from oneiric for the messaging indicator for the security update since it failed verification (unless the fix was to port to the 8 API) | 15:27 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, there's 1 other crasher in there, plus a bug affecting lots of people which makes thunderbird practically unusable for anyone who has a U1 addressbook | 15:27 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley won't be happy if you back those out ;) | 15:28 |
| * m_conley nods vigorously | 15:28 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: gah, it's only in -proposed ATM, right? you can upload a new version to -proposed after I upload to -security, I'd prefer not to have any risk of regression in the security pocket | 15:31 |
| micahg | assuming you have the fixes ready to fix what failed | 15:31 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, then it's going to be yet another 7 days before it goes to updates | 15:31 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: same thing ATM since it failed :) | 15:32 |
| micahg | you need that anyways | 15:32 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, no, the one which failed doesn't matter. it fixes an edge case, but it has no effect on the reported bug. however, the release also contains other fixes for a bug where thunderbird pops up a modal alert dialog every few seconds, making it completely unusable | 15:33 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: well, if pitti will push it to -updates with one fix failed, I'll keep it, otherwise, I'm conflicted | 15:34 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: the other 2 fixes haven't been verified | 15:36 |
| micahg | jdstrand: if 2 out of 3 SRU fixes were verified for Thunderbird (both in EDS) and 1 failed (in messaging menu), would it be reasonable to take the EDS fixes for the security upload even though the SRU would be rejected? | 15:37 |
| micahg | or mdeslaur ^^ | 15:37 |
| jdstrand | seems reasonable to me | 15:37 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so, if you can get the EDS fixes verified in the next 12 hours, I'll keep those and back out the failed messaging menu fix, sound good? | 15:38 |
| * micahg could even wait 24 hours if it's necessary for them to be verified | 15:39 | |
| chrisccoulson | seems ok to me. but you need to back it out on beta as well | 15:41 |
| micahg | well, it's already in precise, right? | 15:43 |
| * micahg just wants to keep it out of oneiric, assuming it's non-destructive, I would think it can stay on beta | 15:44 | |
| micahg | or will that make bzr unhappy? | 15:44 |
| * micahg can back it out for consistency | 15:48 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is there a bug for this change: Don't open about:blank from the New Window quicklist entry | 16:37 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ^^ | 17:20 |
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