[03:09] <taylorr> when are the mythbuntu autobuilds for 0.24-fixes ran each day or night?
[03:35] <patdk-lap> wouldn't that depend?
[03:35] <patdk-lap> on how long they take to build, how many things are queued before them
[03:35] <patdk-lap> and what timezone your in
[03:41] <mrand> as I recall, unless there is a backlog, early evening us central time
[03:41] <taylorr> I dunno, I was hoping a dev would know what time it started
[03:42] <taylorr> mrand: thanks!
[03:42] <taylorr> just committed a fix and was wondering when it'd be ready for users
[03:46] <Jester86> hey.. i see on the site the mythbuntu-control-centre should have an area to switch repositories forward for mythtv 0.25.  anyone want to tell me where that is?  I'm not seeing it
[15:44] <mrand> taylorr: looks like your change was a bit too late to be picked up in last nights build.  Should be in there tonight (lately builds have been completing around 0300 UTC)
[15:49] <taylorr> mrand: thanks!
[15:49] <mrand> you're welcome
[17:09] <quentusrex_> anyone know how to enable optical audio passthru on the hd-pvr?
[17:49] <mrand> quentusrex_: did you look on the mythtv HD-PVR page?  I don't know if it applies, but you might look on that and read about "default_audio_input"
[17:50] <mrand> mythtv wiki page, I meant
[17:51] <quentusrex_> mrand, I was able to figure it out. Turns out that when you add the capture source what ever input you set there is the only input the device will listen to.
[17:51] <quentusrex_> so optical passthru is disabled if you set to RCA input
[20:53] <dekarl> is there a "how to rebuilt your ubuntu package with a patch applied" guide for mythtv around? I'd like to take a peak at #10054 but have never built mythtv
[20:56] <mrand> dekarl: I don't know if it is up-to-date, but yes.  let me see if I can find it...
[21:02] <mrand> dekarl: yep, http://mythbunut.org/wiki/recipes.  Oh wait, I suspect that's old (pre-git).  Here's a brief thing on git-based builds:  http://mythbuntu.org/wiki/developer-cheatsheet#Building   (you may have to click "building" in the index).  If you need help or run into anything, don't hesitate to ask (so that the guide can be improved)
[21:04] <dekarl> so it's not as simple a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Applying_a_patch + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Building_the_Package_Locally_.28Binary_Only.29 ?
[21:05] <Zinn> [wiki.ubuntu.com] PackagingGuide/Complete - Ubuntu Wiki
[21:14] <mrand> dekarl: I've not done a manual build recently, so I can't say for certain.  superm1 might be able to.
[21:17] <dekarl> I'll try the one from the ubuntu guide as it talks about patches explicitly
[21:28] <dekarl> adding "apt-src" in addition to "apt" statements to the mythbuntu sources.list makes getting the source of the packages lots easier :)
[21:29] <mrand> heh
[21:36] <dekarl> hmm, there isn't a "debuild --meet-unmet-dependencies" by chance?
[21:41] <tgm4883> dekarl, 'apt-get build-dep mythtv'
[21:41] <tgm4883> that would install build dependencies
[21:41] <tgm4883> is that what you are looking for?
[21:43] <dekarl> yes, thats it! thanks
[22:18] <superm1> ah we do need to update that recipes page
[22:18] <superm1> forgot about it
[22:18] <dekarl> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User:Dekarl/Testing_patches_on_Mythbuntu
[22:18] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] User:Dekarl/Testing patches on Mythbuntu - MythTV Official Wiki
[22:19] <superm1> yeah that's a pretty straightforward way to go about it
[22:19] <dekarl> thought it might come in handy to have a "dude, please test, it's easy" guide at hand for the next patch :)
[22:20] <superm1> we had talked about a way to deploy a web based GUI that you give it a patch and it gives you a PPA with it
[22:20] <superm1> but it doesn't come up enough that it's worth the effort
[22:21] <dekarl> that sounds like a cool idea... it avoids seeding ccache and downloading lots
[22:21] <dekarl> escepically for people that are afraid of compilers and all that voodoo stuff
[22:22] <superm1> yeah it's perfect for that scenario
[22:23] <superm1> but i feel like mythtv (and mythbuntu) are still fairly techy oriented
[22:23] <superm1> so most the people can follow a set of commands
[22:24] <dekarl> over here in DVB land theres lots of patches that don't get tested because the patch and someone who can test it *and* has the development skills don't come together :( I hope a simple checklist (or premade ppas per ticket) can help with that
[22:26] <superm1> i'll clean up the recipe page, i think i can get it down to a few things to follow and you let me know if it looks good
[22:26] <dekarl> Ahh, I just commited because it's build and packaging now
[22:26] <dekarl> but feel free to edit it as you like
[22:27] <superm1> no i mean i'll update the recipes page at mythbuntu.org
[22:27] <superm1> not right this moment, but i'll try to in the next day or two
[22:27] <superm1> the one that mrand spat at you
[22:28] <dekarl> ahh, I see. it's missing the apt/sources change
[22:31] <dekarl> I get heaps of these messages, is that normal or is it me?
[22:31] <dekarl> dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on <somelib>.so.0 could be avoided if "debian/mythbrowser/usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/<someplugin>.so" were not uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols).
[22:32] <superm1> those are normal
[22:32] <superm1> it's because mythtv's linking is using the same link command on everything
[22:32] <superm1> i've raised it in #mythtv previously, but no one seems to mind
[22:32] <dekarl> hmm, then I'll just life with it.
[22:39] <dekarl> superm1: the guide at my user space is good for getting packages built, I can test them in ~50 minutes (or more likely tomorrow)
[22:40] <superm1> dekarl: cool, ideally i'd like to factor it around using https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/master/deb/build-debs.sh though
[22:40] <Zinn> [github.com] deb/build-debs.sh at master from MythTV/packaging - GitHub
[22:40] <superm1> because that gets the latest upstream code (either fixes or master) as well as the latest packaging (fixes or master)
[22:40] <superm1> maybe it's best to add an additional optional argument to that script to include a patch
[22:40] <superm1> that would make it super easy for people
[22:40] <dekarl> I didn't go that route because I couldn't figure out where to apply the patch
[22:41] <superm1> yeah the script would need a little bit of work to do that automatically (basically automate a few commands about testing applying the patch and where it would have to go as you say)
[22:43] <dekarl> on the other hand the way I used is the generic ubuntu way if I understood it correctly, might come in handy, too
[22:43] <superm1> yeah the way you did it is a fairly generic ubuntu way to do it
[22:43] <dekarl> btw, does it make sense to include xmltv in the mythbuntu ppas?
[22:44] <dekarl> after all mythtv is pretty much useless without guide data :)
[22:44] <superm1> i get the sense that some upstream folk don't want to know anything about how packaging works, so it's nice to abstract it in build scripts when possible
[22:44] <superm1> no one has came clamoring for it, but that might be a good idea too
[22:45] <dekarl> Well, once we move from good old cvs to git I'd like to shuffle the build around a bit anyway to conform to modern standards
[22:47] <superm1> for xmltv?
[22:48]  * dekarl nods
[23:07] <superm1> i'm not sure how the xmltv code is currently packaged, so it might require some other finagling, but will certainly be easier when upstream moves to git
[23:25] <dekarl> I think the packaging scripts are all over here http://git.crustynet.org.uk/?p=xmltv.git;a=tree , not in the main repo
[23:25] <Zinn> [git.crustynet.org.uk] git.crustynet.org.uk Git - xmltv.git/tree
[23:29] <superm1> dekarl: can you link me a sample patch that was in a bug that a user would generally be asked to apply?
[23:29] <superm1> i need to see if i can get the patch levels matched up
[23:31] <dekarl> I'm currently testing this one http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10054
[23:31] <dekarl> it's a one liner, but with all devs that have spare time in ATSC it's never going to be applied without user testing
[23:33] <dekarl> if you want one that's bigger, see http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9726 without user testing that's likely going nowhere either
[23:34] <superm1> great,  that's perfect for adding the functionality to the deb builder sh script
[23:34] <superm1> thanks