| Faqtotum | well, on unity now | 01:20 |
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| Faqtotum | is there a way to make the launcher smaller? | 01:21 |
| philipballew | Faqtotum, yeah. with ccsm | 01:24 |
| philipballew | in ccsm you can chick on the unity plugin and change the size | 01:25 |
| philipballew | this is a cool thing i found yesterday to http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html thats a nice hack | 01:25 |
| Faqtotum | that hack is only for the 32bit edition | 01:30 |
| philipballew | ah, yeah. I assume that will be fixed soon enough. | 01:30 |
| philipballew | i was unaware your version :) | 01:30 |
| bkerensa | philipballew: I followed up with the Asst Professor at WOU and told her I would provide any resources I have available to me and mentor as needed | 01:35 |
| philipballew | nice! bkerensa yeah, when she said she was from organ i know who to tell :) | 01:36 |
| bkerensa | philipballew: Yeah surprised she didnt ping someone at OSU since she is working on a PhD there | 01:38 |
| bkerensa | :P | 01:38 |
| bkerensa | OSU OSL = Kernel.org and every major FOSS project | 01:38 |
| bkerensa | :P | 01:38 |
| philipballew | thats what i thought after the fact, but who knows I guess | 01:38 |
| MarkDude | So meeting tonight? | 02:00 |
| jtatum | yes MarkDude :) | 02:09 |
| Darkwing | hey guys. give me like 5 minutes before I kick this thing in motion. | 02:58 |
| jtatum | ok | 02:59 |
| iheartubuntu | no prob! hello to all | 03:00 |
| philipballew | hello | 03:01 |
| jtatum | hello | 03:02 |
| Darkwing | Hey guys! | 03:04 |
| akk | hi | 03:04 |
| Darkwing | Sorry, had to go dig my laptop and power out of my suitcase. | 03:04 |
| Darkwing | Still have not unpacked from UDS D | 03:04 |
| Darkwing | :D | 03:04 |
| Darkwing | Anyway, who is here for a meeting? | 03:05 |
| akk | o/ | 03:05 |
| Darkwing | Tonights agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11November06 | 03:06 |
| iheartubuntu | here | 03:06 |
| Darkwing | Awesome | 03:06 |
| Darkwing | CA team game night discussion | 03:06 |
| Darkwing | I think this was yours iheartubuntu? | 03:06 |
| iheartubuntu | yes | 03:07 |
| iheartubuntu | still working on game night ideas | 03:07 |
| Darkwing | Take it away :) | 03:07 |
| iheartubuntu | are there any particular games people are interested in? board games? first person shooters? | 03:07 |
| iheartubuntu | im mainly concerned with including everyone and gals my not be into FPS | 03:07 |
| iheartubuntu | plus they could be heavy on graphics, eliminating some people from playing | 03:08 |
| iheartubuntu | so finding a multiplayer game for all is the trick | 03:08 |
| Darkwing | I used to play parcheesi with another group quite a bit. | 03:08 |
| iheartubuntu | what does anyone have to say about online games from a website? there are many games in the google chrome app store | 03:09 |
| iheartubuntu | (and most can be played in firefox too) | 03:09 |
| iheartubuntu | parcheesi is fun. i was even considering bingo | 03:09 |
| iheartubuntu | does it matter if the game is on a website or must it be in the reps? | 03:10 |
| akk | I don't know what's available in multiplayer games, so it's hard to comment. i like word/math/logic games. | 03:10 |
| jtatum | i'd like to try pioneers | 03:10 |
| jtatum | (settlers of catan clone) | 03:10 |
| iheartubuntu | is that a turn based strategy? | 03:10 |
| iheartubuntu | akk i will take that into consideration | 03:11 |
| Darkwing | scrabble tourny :D | 03:11 |
| jtatum | iheartubuntu: yeah | 03:11 |
| iheartubuntu | i think scrabble would be great | 03:11 |
| iheartubuntu | what about card games? | 03:12 |
| akk | That would be fun ... though admittedly it would be awfully easy to cheat, if we're all sitting at home with /usr/share/dict/words right there. :) | 03:12 |
| akk | (re scrabble, not cards) | 03:12 |
| Darkwing | online spades is always good... or Gim Rummy. | 03:12 |
| iheartubuntu | ok. i'll see what i can find | 03:13 |
| akk | poker, playing for stakes of ubuntu CDs and stickers :) | 03:13 |
| Darkwing | What were you thinking on times? | 03:14 |
| Darkwing | weekends? nights? | 03:14 |
| iheartubuntu | i was thinking after each team meeting | 03:14 |
| iheartubuntu | since most of us are around | 03:14 |
| Darkwing | That would actually be really cool. | 03:14 |
| akk | That's a good idea ... might even draw more people to the meetings. | 03:15 |
| iheartubuntu | sunday nights are great. im usually already home (especially when its freezing out) | 03:15 |
| iheartubuntu | ok im done with this unless anyone wants to add more. | 03:16 |
| iheartubuntu | i'll have different game options next meeting that ive researched | 03:16 |
| Darkwing | Sweet! | 03:16 |
| iheartubuntu | and we can all pick . maybe have a few we can rotate | 03:16 |
| Darkwing | Okay, Scale10x. | 03:16 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont want to be losing at scrabble every time | 03:16 |
| iheartubuntu | :) | 03:17 |
| Darkwing | With the holidays coming and scale being in January it will come fast. | 03:17 |
| iheartubuntu | we did awesome this year at SCaLE9x | 03:17 |
| Darkwing | We will be having a booth and thanks to nhaines we will also have UbuCon again. | 03:17 |
| iheartubuntu | everyone I met was amazing and i encourage all who have not yet been to SCaLE to go | 03:17 |
| iheartubuntu | http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x | 03:18 |
| iheartubuntu | and if you can, to help out at the Ubuntu booth too | 03:18 |
| Darkwing | I talked to canonical this last week and it looks like we will be able to collect a bunch more pressed CDs to hand out as well. | 03:18 |
| iheartubuntu | Oh great | 03:19 |
| iheartubuntu | Is there anything new were planning for 10x compared to 9x? | 03:19 |
| Darkwing | This is the first part of planning on this end. | 03:19 |
| eps | When is SCALE 10X? I see some things that say Januaru and others that say February | 03:20 |
| iheartubuntu | January 20-22 | 03:20 |
| eps | Sorry, January | 03:20 |
| eps | So, Fedora Activity Day is not in February then? | 03:20 |
| Darkwing | No. Scale is the date that iheartubuntu gave. | 03:20 |
| iheartubuntu | its all in the link above | 03:21 |
| Darkwing | Does anyone have any ideas that they would like to see done at Scale seeing that it's the 10 anni? | 03:21 |
| iheartubuntu | do we get a bigger booth or anything? | 03:22 |
| iheartubuntu | will canonical be there? | 03:22 |
| iheartubuntu | will canonical provide some professional ubuntu banners or anything? i liked those orange ones at UDS i saw in the pics | 03:22 |
| eps | Hmm. I wonder if we can get ten bowling pins that look like Tux? | 03:22 |
| Darkwing | I don't think that there will be a canonical booth. I think Jono and maybe Jorge Casto will be there. | 03:22 |
| Darkwing | and a couple of Canonical Server/Cloud/Kernel guys | 03:24 |
| Darkwing | We have a HUGE Ubuntu banner that Canonical sent and table cloths. | 03:24 |
| iheartubuntu | beautiful | 03:24 |
| Darkwing | I like the bowling pins idea. | 03:25 |
| Darkwing | that would be pretty cool. | 03:25 |
| Darkwing | I have some books to give away. "Ubuntu for the non geek" I think I have 3 or 4 copies | 03:25 |
| iheartubuntu | im just thinking in my mind how we can engage people better | 03:25 |
| Darkwing | So, we can do some sort of drawings/contest | 03:26 |
| philipballew | We need to get these people to join the loco as well | 03:26 |
| eps | And a purple, uh, aubergine bowling ball. ;-) | 03:26 |
| Darkwing | LOL! | 03:26 |
| iheartubuntu | i like that idea phil | 03:26 |
| Darkwing | Just keep in mind that Scale is coming up and be thinking about volunteering for the booth and/or any other ideas you want to do while there. | 03:27 |
| Darkwing | Also, as many of you know there was a change in leadership for the team. | 03:28 |
| Darkwing | We had all three spots become open and there were three people who ran. | 03:28 |
| iheartubuntu | win by default :) | 03:28 |
| Darkwing | pleia2, myself and jtatum | 03:29 |
| iheartubuntu | congrats to all | 03:29 |
| Darkwing | So, pleia2 and I are standing a second term and welcome in jtatum to the team! | 03:29 |
| * jtatum bows | 03:29 | |
| akk | An excellent team. | 03:30 |
| Darkwing | Does anyone else have anything else? announcements? gripes? | 03:30 |
| iheartubuntu | im good | 03:30 |
| Darkwing | UDS was, as always, busy and fun. | 03:31 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh yes please tell! | 03:31 |
| Darkwing | Thankfully there was no shocking changes at the keynote. | 03:31 |
| philipballew | ^ agrees | 03:31 |
| Darkwing | There is a huge push toward ARM | 03:32 |
| Darkwing | and with the announcement of the ARM 64bit prototype being demoed... This is a good thing. | 03:32 |
| Darkwing | Also, Ubuntu heading toward devices. Tablets, phones, TVs, seems to be another point of intrest. | 03:33 |
| Darkwing | Anyone else? | 03:33 |
| jtatum | did you wind up with a bunch of action items, Darkwing? :) | 03:33 |
| Darkwing | jtatum: Yeah, mostly to do with being on the Kubuntu Counil. LOL | 03:34 |
| jtatum | fun. good luck :) | 03:34 |
| Darkwing | Always fun :) | 03:34 |
| iheartubuntu | is there a xubuntu council? im loving the new xubuntu | 03:35 |
| Darkwing | You would have to talk to pleia2 about that. | 03:35 |
| Darkwing | I'm not sure. | 03:35 |
| Darkwing | Okay, if there is nothing else, thanks for coming out! | 03:36 |
| Darkwing | Does anyone in here use Cone email? | 03:36 |
| jtatum | thanks for chairing, Darkwing | 03:36 |
| Darkwing | :) Cheers! | 03:36 |
| iheartubuntu | cone? | 03:37 |
| iheartubuntu | whats cone | 03:37 |
| Darkwing | It's a CLI email client | 03:37 |
| akk | I'd never heard of cone before. Is it good? | 03:38 |
| philipballew | Ive used pine | 03:38 |
| akk | I use mutt, but there are some frustrating things about it and sometimes I'd like to find something else. | 03:39 |
| Darkwing | It's great except, I am having issues finding out how to set the default "From" header. I can edit it on the fly when I need to | 03:39 |
| Darkwing | I like cone much better then mutt. simplier to setup my IMAP with like 30 folders | 03:39 |
| Darkwing | AKA it auto setup | 03:39 |
| akk | Yeah, mutt's imap handling isn't very good. | 03:40 |
| iheartubuntu | hey i got my hands on an old 1997 mac powerbook 3400c... any recommendations for what i can install on it? | 03:40 |
| akk | I mostly use fetchmail and local folders, but I have used imap at times. | 03:40 |
| Darkwing | and it handles Certs and encryption very nicely | 03:40 |
| Darkwing | And SSL for SMTP and IMAPS | 03:41 |
| akk | My biggest mutt frustration is the whole "which folders have new mail" thing, the way it's the only program in all of linux that needs atime. | 03:41 |
| akk | yeah, ssl/smtp would be nice -- I have to use msmtp since mutt doesn't do that. | 03:42 |
| Darkwing | akk: Try Cone, I think you'll like it. | 03:42 |
| akk | Thanks, will try it. | 03:42 |
| Darkwing | apt-get install cone | 03:42 |
| philipballew | Darkwing, I have a good idea for the UH that I was gonna fly by you | 03:43 |
| Darkwing | Go for it | 03:43 |
| philipballew | Movie night with Linux and computer themed movies | 03:43 |
| iheartubuntu | are there any linux movies? | 03:44 |
| philipballew | We can use the coffee shop and attract people say a Saturday or at the regularly scheduled time | 03:44 |
| philipballew | yes, I located several linux movies | 03:45 |
| Darkwing | Linux movies not named Hackers? :P:P | 03:46 |
| Darkwing | and/or Tron? | 03:46 |
| philipballew | exactly! | 03:46 |
| duke_tim | Tron legacy has a linux terminal in the movie does that count? | 03:46 |
| Darkwing | :D | 03:47 |
| philipballew | what do you think Darkwing ? | 03:47 |
| iheartubuntu | there was a good computer hacker sorta movie in the early 90s.. forgot the name. i think robert redford was in it | 03:47 |
| akk | La Femme Nikita has an episode where the computer guy uses ps and kill to stop the bad guys from firing missiles. :) | 03:48 |
| akk | iheartubuntu: Sneakers, I think? | 03:48 |
| Darkwing | philipballew: I like the idea but, it would have to be at someones house and very personal to be legal. | 03:48 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh that sounds like what i was thinking. i dont remember if it was computers tho | 03:48 |
| philipballew | the coffee shop we use has a protector and screen. | 03:48 |
| iheartubuntu | sneakers = "lighthearted thriller about computers and cryptography" | 03:49 |
| philipballew | I can reserve a time slot | 03:49 |
| jtatum | sneakers was awesome :) | 03:50 |
| iheartubuntu | i havent seen it in years | 03:50 |
| iheartubuntu | i remember buying the vhs from columbia house for 1 penny or something | 03:51 |
| Darkwing | philipballew: Yes, but unless we had permissions by the film people, we cannot legally show a flim in public | 03:51 |
| philipballew | uh, thats right. I'll look into that. | 03:52 |
| iheartubuntu | i think you can if its not for money | 03:52 |
| iheartubuntu | fair use or something? | 03:52 |
| iheartubuntu | churches do it alllll the time | 03:53 |
| iheartubuntu | even my city does it | 03:53 |
| philipballew | also, I was going to go around town and put up flayers everywhere. Several hundred by Christmas | 03:53 |
| philipballew | Auburn does as well | 03:53 |
| Darkwing | :) | 03:53 |
| iheartubuntu | keeping someone for two hours might be tricky though | 03:53 |
| Darkwing | Awesome. I'll be back in a few. Going to shutdown quassel-core and switch back to irssi | 03:54 |
| Darkwing | hmmz... Maybe not... QuasselDroid is nice. | 04:03 |
| akk | So Darkwing, do you know of a way to get cone not to change the background color? This black background stuff is driving me crazy before I even manage to configure a mail account. | 04:31 |
| Darkwing | XD akk not really sure :( | 04:32 |
| Darkwing | akk: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/cone00index.html | 04:32 |
| akk | cone turns out to be not a very googlable name, especially when googling for info about color (cones being the cells in the retina that let us see colors ...) | 04:33 |
| Darkwing | TONS of options | 04:33 |
| Darkwing | Yeah... Googleing cone is kinda harsh | 04:33 |
| akk | yeah, I've been trying to look through the docs, but http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/cone05setup.html just says "The next group of fields set the shown colors for other display elements." ... not very illuminating. | 04:33 |
| akk | Part of the point of using a text-mode mailer, to me, is that I can use my already nicely configured terminal fonts/colors. | 04:34 |
| akk | Always seems weird when text-mode programs then disallow that. | 04:34 |
| nhaines | akgraner: what background color do you prefer? | 06:35 |
| pleia2 | there is no xubuntu council, just an xubuntu project lead | 08:16 |
| pleia2 | xubuntu is a very small team, if there was a council it would be made up of about half the active members ;) | 08:16 |
| pleia2 | we're still considering it for when the project grows though | 08:16 |
| * pleia2 sleep & | 08:17 | |
| philipballew | there is a community head though | 08:20 |
| akgraner | nhaines, for? | 15:01 |
| nhaines | akgraner: for mistells! Sorry, akk was saying she was fighting some console mail app or other over the colors. | 16:45 |
| nhaines | Hmm, I should probably investigate alpine again. (pine was the first program I used under Linux.) | 16:45 |
| akk | d uses pine, but I never got it configured to where I could stand it. I think forcing color was a problem with it too. | 16:46 |
| akk | Can't imagine why anyone would think that was a good thing to do in a text-mode app. | 16:46 |
| Faqtotum | i never used pine under gnu/linux, only hp/ux | 16:48 |
| akk | I used zmail on other unices, and miss it ... and it's finally been opensourced (a few years ago) but it doesn't work right on linux. | 16:50 |
| akk | Some day I'll find time to fix the problems and make it work ... it was a great text-mode and curses-mode mailer. | 16:51 |
| Faqtotum | when i used pine (circa 1995) the only other way to read mail to my dgimpe01@ccsf.cc.ca.us address was elm | 16:54 |
| akk | Why do spammers send N msgs/day, every day, to the SAME MAILING LIST? Wishing mailman had content filters, not just sender. | 16:55 |
| Faqtotum | if you host the postfix/whatever and not just mailman, there is spamassassin | 16:56 |
| akk | This list is on a hosting service, alas. But I haven't had much luck with content filters in spamassassin either; I end up having to add a lot of keywords in procmail filters for things spamassassin doesn't catch. | 17:01 |
| Faqtotum | akk: http://www.jcdigita.com/eximconfig/ | 17:12 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Do you know the url path for meetingology minutes? I need to grab our minutes from last meeting so I can port to a wiki | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ | 17:59 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Thanks! :) | 17:59 |
| pleia2 | sure | 17:59 |
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| BotenAnna | cat pictures http://i.imgur.com/DrRNP.jpg | 20:28 |
| Faqtotum | one picture, singular | 20:29 |
| Faqtotum | multiple cats | 20:29 |
| BotenAnna | some dog to balance things out http://i.imgur.com/KOyPi.jpg | 20:45 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: G+ opened pages | 21:12 |
| bkerensa | https://plus.google.com/u/0/103209052804909343382/posts | 21:12 |
| bkerensa | Ubuntu Oregon is first G+ Page related to Ubuntu :P | 21:12 |
| * MarkDude bows to bkerensa . Fedora is still trying to figure if a person made one yet, or not | 21:29 | |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: I made +Linux | 21:29 |
| bkerensa | https://plus.google.com/u/0/108734178838301503131/posts | 21:29 |
| bkerensa | :P | 21:29 |
| MarkDude | If the bot had a quote database, I would add bkerensa> MarkDude: I made +Linux | 21:30 |
| bkerensa | lol | 21:30 |
| MarkDude | taken out of context that sounds rather bold | 21:30 |
| akk | ooh, just wait 'til they notice it's not a real name and start demanding government ID ... | 21:31 |
| * bkerensa pinged Linus Torvalds and Linux Foundation | 21:31 | |
| * bkerensa just grabbed it so some bot doesnt use it to spam people | 21:31 | |
| MarkDude | akk - yes the whole name thing | 21:31 |
| * MarkDude was surprised to see Skud changed her name to Alex Bayely dut to G+ name fiasco | 21:32 | |
| akk | Heh, I hadn't seen that (haven't had time to keep up lately). | 21:32 |
| MarkDude | http://infotrope.net/2011/09/20/announcement-i%E2%80%99ve-changed-my-name-to-alex-bayley/ | 21:32 |
| akk | oh, wow, a legal name change? | 21:33 |
| MarkDude | For those that dont know G+ made folks use real names. And Skud could not go by Skud, even tho most folks know her by that name , not her given name | 21:33 |
| jtatum | https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/115811757598772547455/115811757598772547455/posts | 21:33 |
| pleia2 | jtatum: doh, we both created california pages | 21:34 |
| jtatum | lol | 21:34 |
| jtatum | now to figure out how to delete a page :) | 21:34 |
| akk | She's worried about having to spell firstnames for people, then she chooses Bayley as the lastname? | 21:34 |
| MarkDude | Dueling pages? | 21:34 |
| MarkDude | akk lol | 21:34 |
| MarkDude | Did not think about that | 21:34 |
| * MarkDude actually did consider legally changing name to dude | 21:34 | |
| MarkDude | Like honestly | 21:34 |
| MarkDude | And would let friends call me mark, but make people it would bug call me Dude, and show ID if they refused :D | 21:35 |
| jtatum | ah, there it is | 21:35 |
| jtatum | pleia2: i'll just delete this one | 21:35 |
| pleia2 | jtatum: sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to add other admins now, wanting to link this one to the california gmail account | 21:36 |
| akk | Just saw a (really bad) movie about a guy who wanted to be called The Dude, "The Big Lebowski" | 21:36 |
| jtatum | pleia2: under the dropdown where it says "1 page", you can manage from there | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | hmm | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | I'm already in the management interface, but I can't find how to add other people | 21:37 |
| Faqtotum | if facebook requires real names, it would make sense for g+ to do the same | 21:37 |
| jtatum | ah gotchya | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | "Multiple administrator support is promised in the near future" | 21:39 |
| pleia2 | heh | 21:39 |
| pleia2 | well, I handle the other social media stuff anyway with iheartubuntu, so I guess it's not a big deal | 21:39 |
| MarkDude | akk that is the best movie | 21:42 |
| MarkDude | OMG, I finally think I have found sumthin' akk is actually wrong about. I never thought I would see it. | 21:42 |
| MarkDude | I mean that movie inpsired a sorta religion, on par with Flying Spaghetti Monster http://dudeism.com/ | 21:43 |
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