[01:20] well, on unity now [01:21] is there a way to make the launcher smaller? [01:24] Faqtotum, yeah. with ccsm [01:25] in ccsm you can chick on the unity plugin and change the size [01:25] this is a cool thing i found yesterday to http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html thats a nice hack [01:30] that hack is only for the 32bit edition [01:30] ah, yeah. I assume that will be fixed soon enough. [01:30] i was unaware your version :) [01:35] philipballew: I followed up with the Asst Professor at WOU and told her I would provide any resources I have available to me and mentor as needed [01:36] nice! bkerensa yeah, when she said she was from organ i know who to tell :) [01:38] philipballew: Yeah surprised she didnt ping someone at OSU since she is working on a PhD there [01:38] :P [01:38] OSU OSL = Kernel.org and every major FOSS project [01:38] :P [01:38] thats what i thought after the fact, but who knows I guess [02:00] So meeting tonight? [02:09] yes MarkDude :) [02:58] hey guys. give me like 5 minutes before I kick this thing in motion. [02:59] ok [03:00] no prob! hello to all [03:01] hello [03:02] hello [03:04] Hey guys! [03:04] hi [03:04] Sorry, had to go dig my laptop and power out of my suitcase. [03:04] Still have not unpacked from UDS D [03:04] :D [03:05] Anyway, who is here for a meeting? [03:05] o/ [03:06] Tonights agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11November06 [03:06] here [03:06] Awesome [03:06] CA team game night discussion [03:06] I think this was yours iheartubuntu? [03:07] yes [03:07] still working on game night ideas [03:07] Take it away :) [03:07] are there any particular games people are interested in? board games? first person shooters? [03:07] im mainly concerned with including everyone and gals my not be into FPS [03:08] plus they could be heavy on graphics, eliminating some people from playing [03:08] so finding a multiplayer game for all is the trick [03:08] I used to play parcheesi with another group quite a bit. [03:09] what does anyone have to say about online games from a website? there are many games in the google chrome app store [03:09] (and most can be played in firefox too) [03:09] parcheesi is fun. i was even considering bingo [03:10] does it matter if the game is on a website or must it be in the reps? [03:10] I don't know what's available in multiplayer games, so it's hard to comment. i like word/math/logic games. [03:10] i'd like to try pioneers [03:10] (settlers of catan clone) [03:10] is that a turn based strategy? [03:11] akk i will take that into consideration [03:11] scrabble tourny :D [03:11] iheartubuntu: yeah [03:11] i think scrabble would be great [03:12] what about card games? [03:12] That would be fun ... though admittedly it would be awfully easy to cheat, if we're all sitting at home with /usr/share/dict/words right there. :) [03:12] (re scrabble, not cards) [03:12] online spades is always good... or Gim Rummy. [03:13] ok. i'll see what i can find [03:13] poker, playing for stakes of ubuntu CDs and stickers :) [03:14] What were you thinking on times? [03:14] weekends? nights? [03:14] i was thinking after each team meeting [03:14] since most of us are around [03:14] That would actually be really cool. [03:15] That's a good idea ... might even draw more people to the meetings. [03:15] sunday nights are great. im usually already home (especially when its freezing out) [03:16] ok im done with this unless anyone wants to add more. [03:16] i'll have different game options next meeting that ive researched [03:16] Sweet! [03:16] and we can all pick . maybe have a few we can rotate [03:16] Okay, Scale10x. [03:16] i dont want to be losing at scrabble every time [03:17] :) [03:17] With the holidays coming and scale being in January it will come fast. [03:17] we did awesome this year at SCaLE9x [03:17] We will be having a booth and thanks to nhaines we will also have UbuCon again. [03:17] everyone I met was amazing and i encourage all who have not yet been to SCaLE to go [03:18] http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale10x [03:18] and if you can, to help out at the Ubuntu booth too [03:18] I talked to canonical this last week and it looks like we will be able to collect a bunch more pressed CDs to hand out as well. [03:19] Oh great [03:19] Is there anything new were planning for 10x compared to 9x? [03:19] This is the first part of planning on this end. [03:20] When is SCALE 10X? I see some things that say Januaru and others that say February [03:20] January 20-22 [03:20] Sorry, January [03:20] So, Fedora Activity Day is not in February then? [03:20] No. Scale is the date that iheartubuntu gave. [03:21] its all in the link above [03:21] Does anyone have any ideas that they would like to see done at Scale seeing that it's the 10 anni? [03:22] do we get a bigger booth or anything? [03:22] will canonical be there? [03:22] will canonical provide some professional ubuntu banners or anything? i liked those orange ones at UDS i saw in the pics [03:22] Hmm. I wonder if we can get ten bowling pins that look like Tux? [03:22] I don't think that there will be a canonical booth. I think Jono and maybe Jorge Casto will be there. [03:24] and a couple of Canonical Server/Cloud/Kernel guys [03:24] We have a HUGE Ubuntu banner that Canonical sent and table cloths. [03:24] beautiful [03:25] I like the bowling pins idea. [03:25] that would be pretty cool. [03:25] I have some books to give away. "Ubuntu for the non geek" I think I have 3 or 4 copies [03:25] im just thinking in my mind how we can engage people better [03:26] So, we can do some sort of drawings/contest [03:26] We need to get these people to join the loco as well [03:26] And a purple, uh, aubergine bowling ball. ;-) [03:26] LOL! [03:26] i like that idea phil [03:27] Just keep in mind that Scale is coming up and be thinking about volunteering for the booth and/or any other ideas you want to do while there. [03:28] Also, as many of you know there was a change in leadership for the team. [03:28] We had all three spots become open and there were three people who ran. [03:28] win by default :) [03:29] pleia2, myself and jtatum [03:29] congrats to all [03:29] So, pleia2 and I are standing a second term and welcome in jtatum to the team! [03:29] * jtatum bows [03:30] An excellent team. [03:30] Does anyone else have anything else? announcements? gripes? [03:30] im good [03:31] UDS was, as always, busy and fun. [03:31] ohh yes please tell! [03:31] Thankfully there was no shocking changes at the keynote. [03:31] ^ agrees [03:32] There is a huge push toward ARM [03:32] and with the announcement of the ARM 64bit prototype being demoed... This is a good thing. [03:33] Also, Ubuntu heading toward devices. Tablets, phones, TVs, seems to be another point of intrest. [03:33] Anyone else? [03:33] did you wind up with a bunch of action items, Darkwing? :) [03:34] jtatum: Yeah, mostly to do with being on the Kubuntu Counil. LOL [03:34] fun. good luck :) [03:34] Always fun :) [03:35] is there a xubuntu council? im loving the new xubuntu [03:35] You would have to talk to pleia2 about that. [03:35] I'm not sure. [03:36] Okay, if there is nothing else, thanks for coming out! [03:36] Does anyone in here use Cone email? [03:36] thanks for chairing, Darkwing [03:36] :) Cheers! [03:37] cone? [03:37] whats cone [03:37] It's a CLI email client [03:38] I'd never heard of cone before. Is it good? [03:38] Ive used pine [03:39] I use mutt, but there are some frustrating things about it and sometimes I'd like to find something else. [03:39] It's great except, I am having issues finding out how to set the default "From" header. I can edit it on the fly when I need to [03:39] I like cone much better then mutt. simplier to setup my IMAP with like 30 folders [03:39] AKA it auto setup [03:40] Yeah, mutt's imap handling isn't very good. [03:40] hey i got my hands on an old 1997 mac powerbook 3400c... any recommendations for what i can install on it? [03:40] I mostly use fetchmail and local folders, but I have used imap at times. [03:40] and it handles Certs and encryption very nicely [03:41] And SSL for SMTP and IMAPS [03:41] My biggest mutt frustration is the whole "which folders have new mail" thing, the way it's the only program in all of linux that needs atime. [03:42] yeah, ssl/smtp would be nice -- I have to use msmtp since mutt doesn't do that. [03:42] akk: Try Cone, I think you'll like it. [03:42] Thanks, will try it. [03:42] apt-get install cone [03:43] Darkwing, I have a good idea for the UH that I was gonna fly by you [03:43] Go for it [03:43] Movie night with Linux and computer themed movies [03:44] are there any linux movies? [03:44] We can use the coffee shop and attract people say a Saturday or at the regularly scheduled time [03:45] yes, I located several linux movies [03:46] Linux movies not named Hackers? :P:P [03:46] and/or Tron? [03:46] exactly! [03:46] Tron legacy has a linux terminal in the movie does that count? [03:47] :D [03:47] what do you think Darkwing ? [03:47] there was a good computer hacker sorta movie in the early 90s.. forgot the name. i think robert redford was in it [03:48] La Femme Nikita has an episode where the computer guy uses ps and kill to stop the bad guys from firing missiles. :) [03:48] iheartubuntu: Sneakers, I think? [03:48] philipballew: I like the idea but, it would have to be at someones house and very personal to be legal. [03:48] ohh that sounds like what i was thinking. i dont remember if it was computers tho [03:48] the coffee shop we use has a protector and screen. [03:49] sneakers = "lighthearted thriller about computers and cryptography" [03:49] I can reserve a time slot [03:50] sneakers was awesome :) [03:50] i havent seen it in years [03:51] i remember buying the vhs from columbia house for 1 penny or something [03:51] philipballew: Yes, but unless we had permissions by the film people, we cannot legally show a flim in public [03:52] uh, thats right. I'll look into that. [03:52] i think you can if its not for money [03:52] fair use or something? [03:53] churches do it alllll the time [03:53] even my city does it [03:53] also, I was going to go around town and put up flayers everywhere. Several hundred by Christmas [03:53] Auburn does as well [03:53] :) [03:53] keeping someone for two hours might be tricky though [03:54] Awesome. I'll be back in a few. Going to shutdown quassel-core and switch back to irssi [04:03] hmmz... Maybe not... QuasselDroid is nice. [04:31] So Darkwing, do you know of a way to get cone not to change the background color? This black background stuff is driving me crazy before I even manage to configure a mail account. [04:32] XD akk not really sure :( [04:32] akk: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/cone00index.html [04:33] cone turns out to be not a very googlable name, especially when googling for info about color (cones being the cells in the retina that let us see colors ...) [04:33] TONS of options [04:33] Yeah... Googleing cone is kinda harsh [04:33] yeah, I've been trying to look through the docs, but http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/cone05setup.html just says "The next group of fields set the shown colors for other display elements." ... not very illuminating. [04:34] Part of the point of using a text-mode mailer, to me, is that I can use my already nicely configured terminal fonts/colors. [04:34] Always seems weird when text-mode programs then disallow that. [06:35] akgraner: what background color do you prefer? [08:16] there is no xubuntu council, just an xubuntu project lead [08:16] xubuntu is a very small team, if there was a council it would be made up of about half the active members ;) [08:16] we're still considering it for when the project grows though [08:17] * pleia2 sleep & [08:20] there is a community head though [15:01] nhaines, for? [16:45] akgraner: for mistells! Sorry, akk was saying she was fighting some console mail app or other over the colors. [16:45] Hmm, I should probably investigate alpine again. (pine was the first program I used under Linux.) [16:46] d uses pine, but I never got it configured to where I could stand it. I think forcing color was a problem with it too. [16:46] Can't imagine why anyone would think that was a good thing to do in a text-mode app. [16:48] i never used pine under gnu/linux, only hp/ux [16:50] I used zmail on other unices, and miss it ... and it's finally been opensourced (a few years ago) but it doesn't work right on linux. [16:51] Some day I'll find time to fix the problems and make it work ... it was a great text-mode and curses-mode mailer. [16:54] when i used pine (circa 1995) the only other way to read mail to my dgimpe01@ccsf.cc.ca.us address was elm [16:55] Why do spammers send N msgs/day, every day, to the SAME MAILING LIST? Wishing mailman had content filters, not just sender. [16:56] if you host the postfix/whatever and not just mailman, there is spamassassin [17:01] This list is on a hosting service, alas. But I haven't had much luck with content filters in spamassassin either; I end up having to add a lot of keywords in procmail filters for things spamassassin doesn't catch. [17:12] akk: http://www.jcdigita.com/eximconfig/ [17:57] pleia2: Do you know the url path for meetingology minutes? I need to grab our minutes from last meeting so I can port to a wiki [17:59] bkerensa: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [17:59] pleia2: Thanks! :) [17:59] sure === paulproteus_ is now known as paulproteus [20:28] cat pictures http://i.imgur.com/DrRNP.jpg [20:29] one picture, singular [20:29] multiple cats [20:45] some dog to balance things out http://i.imgur.com/KOyPi.jpg [21:12] pleia2: G+ opened pages [21:12] https://plus.google.com/u/0/103209052804909343382/posts [21:12] Ubuntu Oregon is first G+ Page related to Ubuntu :P [21:29] * MarkDude bows to bkerensa . Fedora is still trying to figure if a person made one yet, or not [21:29] MarkDude: I made +Linux [21:29] https://plus.google.com/u/0/108734178838301503131/posts [21:29] :P [21:30] If the bot had a quote database, I would add bkerensa> MarkDude: I made +Linux [21:30] lol [21:30] taken out of context that sounds rather bold [21:31] ooh, just wait 'til they notice it's not a real name and start demanding government ID ... [21:31] * bkerensa pinged Linus Torvalds and Linux Foundation [21:31] * bkerensa just grabbed it so some bot doesnt use it to spam people [21:31] akk - yes the whole name thing [21:32] * MarkDude was surprised to see Skud changed her name to Alex Bayely dut to G+ name fiasco [21:32] Heh, I hadn't seen that (haven't had time to keep up lately). [21:32] http://infotrope.net/2011/09/20/announcement-i%E2%80%99ve-changed-my-name-to-alex-bayley/ [21:33] oh, wow, a legal name change? [21:33] For those that dont know G+ made folks use real names. And Skud could not go by Skud, even tho most folks know her by that name , not her given name [21:33] https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/115811757598772547455/115811757598772547455/posts [21:34] jtatum: doh, we both created california pages [21:34] lol [21:34] now to figure out how to delete a page :) [21:34] She's worried about having to spell firstnames for people, then she chooses Bayley as the lastname? [21:34] Dueling pages? [21:34] akk lol [21:34] Did not think about that [21:34] * MarkDude actually did consider legally changing name to dude [21:34] Like honestly [21:35] And would let friends call me mark, but make people it would bug call me Dude, and show ID if they refused :D [21:35] ah, there it is [21:35] pleia2: i'll just delete this one [21:36] jtatum: sorry, I'm trying to figure out how to add other admins now, wanting to link this one to the california gmail account [21:36] Just saw a (really bad) movie about a guy who wanted to be called The Dude, "The Big Lebowski" [21:36] pleia2: under the dropdown where it says "1 page", you can manage from there [21:37] hmm [21:37] I'm already in the management interface, but I can't find how to add other people [21:37] if facebook requires real names, it would make sense for g+ to do the same [21:37] ah gotchya [21:39] "Multiple administrator support is promised in the near future" [21:39] heh [21:39] well, I handle the other social media stuff anyway with iheartubuntu, so I guess it's not a big deal [21:42] akk that is the best movie [21:42] OMG, I finally think I have found sumthin' akk is actually wrong about. I never thought I would see it. [21:43] I mean that movie inpsired a sorta religion, on par with Flying Spaghetti Monster http://dudeism.com/ === negronjl_ is now known as negronjl