| bjsnider | you've also got an nvidia chip there, i'm not sure if you're able to use that exclusively | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| LLStarks | i can, if i so desire | 00:01 |
| LLStarks | rendering might be different since i'd be using nouveau or nvidia | 00:02 |
| bjsnider | what o/s did that come with? | 00:02 |
| LLStarks | no os | 00:02 |
| bjsnider | cool | 00:02 |
| LLStarks | but optimus... so... | 00:03 |
| LLStarks | and yeah, i can confirm that the desktop tears during workspace switching | 00:06 |
| bjsnider | well, you'll have no issues with the blob, if that's the way you want to go | 00:09 |
| bjsnider | i'm sure sandybridge will be worked out in time | 00:09 |
| LLStarks | thx | 00:10 |
| bjsnider | snb is still slower than the slowest nvidia chip | 00:11 |
| bjsnider | LLStarks, hard drive or flash drive? | 00:14 |
| LLStarks | hard | 00:22 |
| LLStarks | now's a pretty good time to buy an ssd tho | 00:23 |
| LLStarks | hdds are so ridiculously expensive because of the thailand floods | 00:23 |
| bjsnider | seems like a particularly good thing to have in a craptop, because motorized drives are not supposed to be moved, which is in conflict with the nature and purpose of craptops | 00:28 |
| LLStarks | D: | 00:30 |
| LLStarks | i take you like towers | 00:30 |
| bjsnider | at least i can build them myself | 00:32 |
| bjsnider | although no o/s is very spiffy | 00:32 |
| bjsnider | no microsoft tax | 00:32 |
| LLStarks | i picked every component of this laptop save for the gpu | 00:32 |
| bjsnider | that's not the case in most situations with craptops | 00:33 |
| bjsnider | my experience is they don't last very long | 00:34 |
| bjsnider | LLStarks, join #gnome-shell on gimpnet and talk to the devs about the tearing | 00:35 |
| LLStarks | ok thanks again | 00:35 |
| bjsnider | irc.gimp.org | 00:39 |
| RAOF | Prf_Jakob: Oh, dear. What breaks on Radeon 6970? I didn't know we actually had support for that chip? | 01:08 |
| Prf_Jakob | RAOF: Graphical glitches. | 01:10 |
| Prf_Jakob | Rendering sometimes is just random data. | 01:10 |
| Prf_Jakob | Its probably the X driver thats at fault because the text in gnome-terminal got broken at one point. | 01:11 |
| Prf_Jakob | RAOF: also turning adding 'Option "NoAccel" "TRUE"' to xorg.conf and then launch a normal Unity session is currently broken. | 01:13 |
| RAOF | Prf_Jakob: As in: It doesn't correctly detect the lack of GL and fallback to unity 2D? Urgh. | 01:13 |
| Prf_Jakob | yeah | 01:13 |
| RAOF | You know what would be awesome? Having all the people who use the stable releases find bugs before they become stable releases :) | 01:14 |
| bjsnider | did you try fglrx? | 01:14 |
| RAOF | Also, I'd like a bug-triaging pony. | 01:14 |
| Prf_Jakob | hehe :) | 01:14 |
| Prf_Jakob | RAOF: If we are speaking of wanting things, I like a way to lock the Unity task bar and turning of the menu redirection. | 01:18 |
| Prf_Jakob | Both are totaly pointless on a 30" screen. | 01:18 |
| RAOF | I think there *is* an environment variable you can set for the menus... | 01:18 |
| Prf_Jakob | oh | 01:19 |
| RAOF | And compiz-config-settings-manager has knobs for the Launcher's autohide behaviour. | 01:19 |
| Prf_Jakob | ah nice | 01:19 |
| Prf_Jakob | Last one, anyways I can get a somewhat compitent theme config tool? I would like to be able to change the font size. | 01:22 |
| RAOF | gnome-tweak-tool | 01:22 |
| RAOF | That'll let you set various themey bits, most usefully the font, font size, and DPIish. | 01:23 |
| RAOF | Yes, it depends on gnome-shell. Yes, that's crap. | 01:23 |
| Prf_Jakob | ah thanks | 01:23 |
| Prf_Jakob | heh | 01:23 |
| Prf_Jakob | there used be settings for that in the settings panel? | 01:23 |
| Prf_Jakob | I'm hoping you are planning on adding that back to the settings panel? | 01:24 |
| RAOF | Yeah, I believe that's intended. | 01:24 |
| Prf_Jakob | ah good | 01:24 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure if *we* are planning on adding that, but it's a GNOME-hasn't-yet-implemented rather than GNOME-is-philosophically-objecting-to-implementing. | 01:24 |
| Prf_Jakob | Ah so the new config panel is a gnome thing not a Ubuntu rewrite? | 01:25 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 01:26 |
| Prf_Jakob | Ah so compiz-config wont work since I'm running Unity2D. | 01:26 |
| Prf_Jakob | Well now I know that so I can change that in the future. | 01:26 |
| RAOF | In fact, there's a certain amount of friction there, as GNOME doesn't want it extensible, and we want to add things like jockey, Ubuntu One, and such. | 01:26 |
| RAOF | I think compiz-config should work even when you're not running Unity3D? | 01:27 |
| RAOF | At least, I don't know why it wouldn't work. It doesn't actually talk to compiz, just twiddle configuration files. | 01:27 |
| Prf_Jakob | dunno, Unity2D is based on metacity, or at least thats whats running. | 01:28 |
| RAOF | Oh, it won't change the settings for Unity2D. | 01:28 |
| RAOF | If that was what you were expecting. | 01:28 |
| Prf_Jakob | Right :) | 01:28 |
| Prf_Jakob | Not really expected it just didn't think that far ahead :) | 01:29 |
| Prf_Jakob | expecting* | 01:29 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 01:29 |
| Prf_Jakob | but yeah getting a bunch of the most common requests for Unity in a config-panel under the SystemSettings would be nice. | 01:33 |
| RAOF | There were some sessions at UDS about that. Or, at least, something like that. "More configurable Unity" | 01:34 |
| Prf_Jakob | Ah cool | 01:36 |
| RAOF | Thinking of which, our regular general X session happened, where we discussed what mesa version to ship in 12.04. | 01:40 |
| RAOF | Thinking of which, our regular general X session happened, where we discussed what mesa version to ship in 12.04. Consensus is 7.12/8.0, assuming that it's branched off by mid-January. | 01:40 |
| Prf_Jakob | ok | 01:40 |
| Prf_Jakob | The intel guys probably want to do a branch in december and a release in mid January. | 01:41 |
| RAOF | That will make my "Decide if we can go with 7.12/8.0 in mid January" work item nice and easy, then :) | 01:42 |
| Prf_Jakob | yeah we tried to poke them to do a earlier release because we wheren't sure what you guys would decide. | 01:43 |
| Prf_Jakob | Good to know about that, we will keep a eye on intel and make sure we ship in mid january. | 01:49 |
| Prf_Jakob | Okay so Unity2D looks good with NoAccel commnted out. | 01:50 |
| Prf_Jakob | http://irc.walkyrie.se/ubuntu/unity-errors.png | 01:58 |
| Prf_Jakob | RAOF: ^ thats what the errors looks under Unity3D btw. | 01:58 |
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| mgariepy | Sarvatt, can you upload the SRU for LP:#785280 natty and oneiric please ? | 14:57 |
| tjaalton | mgariepy: uploaded already | 14:58 |
| mgariepy | ha great :) thanks a lot | 14:59 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: thank ya so much for that! | 15:26 |
| tjaalton | Sarvatt: no prob | 15:30 |
| Q-FUNK | any idea what could cause Bug #886833 in Lucid? where would I start to investigate this? could this be a -nouveau issue? | 18:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 886833 in gdm (Ubuntu) "gdm-greeter unusable because filled with pixel garbage (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/886833 | 18:06 |
| Q-FUNK | yup, nouveau it is. broken on Lucid. | 18:37 |
| Q-FUNK | nv works fine on the same hardware. | 18:37 |
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