[00:00] <dluzius> I am running on battery... no no indicator
[00:00] <dlbike76> JosephHarretha:  I think I must have the same battery as you, since mine only lasts about that long...
[00:00] <skyball> banshee freezes how do i stop the program in terminal?
[00:01] <JZApples> skyball killall banshee
[00:01] <ring1> skyball, pkill banshee
[00:01] <skyball> thanks
[00:01] <JosephHarretha> dlbike76, Its not the battary model thats my issue... 2 power surges, 3 year old Gateway MD73, Over charged battary haha.
[00:02] <gauda> hello, can anybody tell me where i find the xulrunner in oneiric? it seems it got kicked for oneiric? i need xulrunner-1.9.2-dev!
[00:02] <gravytrane> worked joseph, many thanks
[00:02] <JosephHarretha> gravytrane, No problem :)
[00:02] <bekks> gauda: xulrunner ist part of the firefox packages in recent versions of firefox.
[00:02] <JosephHarretha> gravytrane, Just some background info, Ubuntu uses plymouth for those bootlogo's
[00:03] <JosephHarretha> gravytrane, So if you ever have that issue again, try searching "change plymouth themes"
[00:03] <gauda> bekks: thanks, do you know how to set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME then?
[00:03] <dluzius> my laptop is a dual boot Toshiba L655, and in W7 I do have abattery indicator
[00:04] <bekks> gauda: Nope, havent compiled firefox on my own for ages now.
[00:04] <tolmun> how to make fans runing again? sensors-detect find only coretemp module.
[00:05] <escott> gauda, sounds like an environment variable. just export it
[00:05] <Jordan_U> gauda: What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:05] <gauda> escott: this is the problem ;) i do not know to which value
[00:06] <JosephHarretha> gauda, Why not read the documentation on the mozilla website.....
[00:06] <gauda> Jordan_U: i am trying to run redcar, a ruby ide: https://github.com/redcar/redcar/wiki/Installation
[00:07] <gauda> Jordan_U: when i run it it raises: NativeException: org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Unknown Mozilla path (MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME not set)]
[00:07] <jbondhus> Hello.
[00:07] <JosephH> Much better, my old nick was too long.
[00:08] <jbondhus> Can I use this channel for questions with ubuntu server?
[00:08] <lisa_> hellllllo ..any italians?
[00:08] <JosephH> jbondhus, Nope, try #ubuntu-server
[00:08] <jbondhus> Ok, bye then.
[00:08] <escott> !it | lisa_
[00:08] <dluzius>  how do I get a battery indicator in ocelot
[00:09] <escott> dluzius, is the power statistics application recognizing the battery
[00:09] <gauda> Jordan_U: i tried to run: "MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/xulrunner redcar" but this also does not work: NativeException: org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME='/usr/lib/xulrunner']
[00:09] <dluzius> what is that
[00:09] <JosephH> -.^
[00:09] <escott> dluzius, gnome-power-statistics
[00:10] <j3NNy1> anyone could recommend me which book/s are good for command line in ubuntu?
[00:10] <JosephH> dluzius, type  gnome-power-statistics into terminal and press enter
[00:10] <JosephH> j3NNy1, I can't give you books, but the ubuntu command line is known as "Bash", and I can give you plenty of Website, but a better place to ask would be the #bash channel
[00:11] <JosephH> !bash | j3NNy1
[00:11] <j3NNy1> JosephH:thanks
[00:11] <JosephH> j3NNy1, No problem, and if your stuck DM me, I'm very good with a terminal if I do say so myself :)
[00:12]  * JosephH feels proud he can say that.
[00:12] <tolmun> j3NNy1: http://subsignal.org/doc/AliensBashTutorial.html
[00:12] <j3NNy1> JosephH: Thanks again. I appreciate it so much...
[00:12] <JosephH> j3NNy1, No problem :)
[00:12] <Nightwalkerkg1> Need help with my ATI video card.
[00:12] <Nightwalkerkg1> Sorry,hi all.
[00:12] <JosephH> Nightwalkerkg1, Well, whats the problem with it.
[00:13] <Nightwalkerkg1> Ok i tried almost evry single tutorial i could find.
[00:14] <Nightwalkerkg1> I alwayes get aticonfig: command not found and monitor is unknown.
[00:14] <JosephH> Nightwalkerkg1, Okay, first things first, run "lspci | grep -i ati" so I can know exactly what card you have.
[00:14] <Nightwalkerkg1> I have Diamond ATI Radeon 9550 AGP 128mb
[00:14] <asdf-> in ubuntu 11.04 & unity... how can I add/remove indicators? I can't right click the menu bar anymore
[00:14] <Nightwalkerkg1> I know it's old.
[00:14] <Nightwalkerkg1> I have ubuntu 11.10
[00:15] <j3NNy1> tolmun: thanks
[00:15] <dluzius> power statistics app. only offers info on AC power and CPU
[00:15] <Nightwalkerkg1> And prop. drivers show No prop. drivers in use on the system.
[00:15] <escott> dluzius, the acpi info for your battery is missing/cannot be recognized
[00:15] <Nightwalkerkg1> This is what i got.
[00:15] <Nightwalkerkg1> stefan@Ivke:~$ lspci | grep -i ati
[00:15] <Nightwalkerkg1> 00:0d.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems LT WinModem (rev 02)
[00:15] <Nightwalkerkg1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550]
[00:15] <Nightwalkerkg1> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] (Secondary)
[00:15] <FloodBot1> Nightwalkerkg1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <Nightwalkerkg1> Oh,sorry
[00:16] <dlbike76> Hi, does LightDM use the xsessions hierarchy?
[00:16] <dluzius> how do I get around this
[00:16] <JosephH> Nightwalkerkg1, Okay, Well, I want you to put all that on the forums with a description of the problem, an any other information you can provide. Because honestly, I don't have a clue.
[00:17] <Nightwalkerkg1> Oh,well. :(
[00:17] <JosephH> Unless anybody else has an idea for the problem ... ?
[00:17] <Nightwalkerkg1> Tnx for the try and sorry for the time.
[00:17] <asdf-> in unity, how can i get the sound indicator back if it is missing?
[00:17] <JosephH> dlbike76, to my knowledge it does. But I am not well versed in lightDM
[00:18] <Nightwalkerkg1> Oh,JosephH one more thing.I am from Serbia so do i post this problem on Serbian Ubuntu forum or on Ubuntu forum?
[00:18] <JosephH> Nightwalkerkg1, I would just put it on the general one, you'll get more people. I belive the localized forms are for those who don't speak english well, which it is apparent that you do :)
[00:19] <JosephH> Nightwalkerkg1, Do speak it well*
[00:19] <Nightwalkerkg1> Ok,thanks for your time.
[00:19] <Nightwalkerkg1> English?
[00:19] <dlbike76> JosephH:  Ok thanks for your time.
[00:19] <JosephH> dlbike76, No proble
[00:19] <JosephH> Nightwalkerkg1, Yes :)
[00:19] <Nightwalkerkg1> Sure,i can understand,speak,write and read very well.
[00:20] <JosephH> Nightwalkerkg1, So use the general forums :P
[00:20] <Nightwalkerkg1> :D
[00:20] <MagBo> hi guys. I need to get myself a live USB really quickly, but my problem is that the only computer that's currently avaliable runs windows. so I googled some strange GUI thing called LiLi which after the installation of Ubuntu 11 does something wrong with bootloader and I have no idea how to install it manually on the needed partition having only USB stick on 2GB and windows box
[00:21] <Nightwalkerkg1> Ok,buy i am going to bed.I am going to ask for help tomorow on the forum.Thanks one more time.
[00:21]  * JosephH feels awesome for helping so many people 
[00:21] <Nightwalkerkg1> MagBo use LiLi,it hase it's own bootloader
[00:21] <JosephH> MagBo, I have a program that will solve this, www.pendrivelinux.com :)
[00:21] <MagBo> during the boot it writes "GRUB" and doesn't respond to the key presses )
[00:21] <escott> MagBo, the ubuntu website has instructions on how to create a usb in windows
[00:21] <gotz7> hey guys - would anyone mind answering 6 very short questions for a research project I'm doing? I promise it's VERY quick
[00:21] <Nightwalkerkg1> I have used it.
[00:21] <JosephH> MagBo, Its the offical supported usb creator for windows.
[00:21] <JosephH> gotz7, Sure, but DM me so that we don't kill the chan.
[00:22] <gotz7> yerp!
[00:22] <lexflex> hello ubuntu gks
[00:22] <lexflex> is there anybody here with a macbook pro?
[00:22] <JosephH> lexflex, Me :P I'm not on it now, But I have one.
[00:22] <osg> OK, I made small progress about my scim problem. Now I am able to see an icon that should allow me to switch inputs. It seems to be "stuck" on Input Method Off.
[00:23] <lexflex> Do you have ubuntu installed on it?
[00:23] <osg> I used the ibus-daemon -dr command to get this far.
[00:23] <JosephH> lexflex, Yup.
[00:24] <JosephH> lexflex, I have Linux on everything lmao!. I got a debian bassed distro on my wii XD.
[00:24] <osg> brb
[00:24] <lexflex> JosephH: and did you replace os x? or do you have dual boot or something?
[00:24] <MagBo> JosephH: btw, will 2GB be nuff to get Gnome3+PGP+Tor Browser Bundle using ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386 image?
[00:24] <warfaren> CrOnOs2000: nothing wrong with my ram. memtest passed with no errors. any other suggestions?
[00:24] <zah_> Whats the best permission setting for PHP for Public Access and Internal/Private Access files
[00:24] <JosephH> lexflex, uh... whats above quad... cinq? anyway, 5 OS's booting Lmao.
[00:25] <JosephH> MagBo, More then enough I think.
[00:25] <lexflex> JospehH: which ones? how did you do this?
[00:25] <osg> W哦我！
[00:25] <lexflex> JosephH: or better: what boot manager handls all this?
[00:26] <JosephH> lexflex, Grub 2
[00:26] <MagBo> yeah, Grub 2 is uber cool
[00:26] <JosephH> lexflex, I have ArchLinux, OSX, Windows 7, Windows 8, and Ubuntu 11.10 on it now.
[00:26] <MagBo> haha, Archlinux <3
[00:26] <JosephH> I love Arch :)
[00:26] <lexflex> JosephH: wait.. windows 8?
[00:27] <MagBo> JosephH: wait a second, I was wondering where do I know you from
[00:27] <JosephH> lexflex, The Developer Preview. Its only meant for testing code.
[00:27] <MagBo> JosephH: could it be that you used to answer some questions at #archlinux ?
[00:27] <wbBlueDave> Hello everyone, i have a problem with my Sony VAIO VPCEH running Ubuntu 11.04 ... the touchpad scrolling doesn't work... i would really apreciate if you'd be so kind to help me
[00:27] <lexflex> JosephH: can i get that, too?
[00:27] <JosephH> MagBo, I normally go by the name NictraSavios :)
[00:28] <r0dy4> lexflex: yes
[00:28] <JosephH> lexflex, Sure, Its free. Google it.
[00:28] <lexflex> JosephH: awesome, didnt know
[00:28] <lexflex> JosephH: and os x lion also? or is it still snow leopard?
[00:29] <osg> Ok, I am nearly 100% there！I just have to figure out which keystokes are controlling things now！
[00:29] <JosephH> MagBo, Lion. I got the MBP only recently.
[00:29] <dlbike76> JoshephH:  Are there FLOSS drivers for the MacPro, or do you have to use proprietary ones?
[00:29] <osg> So， I guess that running ibus-daemon -dr did the trick to get scim to work。
[00:30] <lexflex> is there any tutorial on how to achieve this? i was trying all sunday on getting a triple boot (lion, win7 and ubuntu 11.10) but i resigned after 3 failed trys
[00:30] <JosephH> dlbike76, For ubuntu, I didnnt have any issues. I has more driver issues with windows than Ubuntu. But for arch, I just followed their wiki.
[00:30] <JosephH> dlbike76, So, I believe I'm using open source ones. But honestly, I don't care if I'm not haha. They seem to work perfecty.
[00:30] <JosephH> perfectly*
[00:31] <lexflex> JosephH: i was trying with rEFIt 0.14 though, not grub
[00:32] <MagBo> lexflex: refit isn't needed anymore afaik
[00:32] <JosephH> lexflex, Well, what I did was I installed Windows 7, then windows 8, then ArchLinux, then Ubuntu. Because I wanted ubuntu to take care of my grub 2.
[00:32] <lexflex> JosephH: and os x lion was there already?
[00:32] <JosephH> lexflex, Remember the old rule, Go from the least flexible to the most flexible operating systems.
[00:33] <JosephH> lexflex, Yup. OEM straight from apple.
[00:33] <dlbike76> JosephH:  Sounds cool.  I may have to check out a Macbook as my next laptop.
[00:33] <MagBo> JosephH: Arch is more flexible than ubuntu by the means of what you can do. Ubuntu is more flexible in the means of where you can do it.
[00:33] <JosephH> dlbike76, I actually still prefer to use my old gateway....
[00:34] <lexflex> JosephH: and how did you partition? in os x?
[00:34] <JosephH> MagBo, I use Ubuntu as the bootloaders OS because Arch has issues with other operating systems
[00:34] <MagBo> JosephH: how do you share the files? I mean, HFS+ is pain in the arse :(
[00:34] <JosephH> Partitioning you say
[00:34]  * JosephH smiles big
[00:34] <lexflex> JosephH: yes yes, partition… no?
[00:34] <JosephH> Thats my favorite feild hehe :P
[00:34] <ozzloy> http://pastebin.com/vUh4PjBn how do i fix this error?  this is what dmesg gives me when i plug in my sd card
[00:35] <MagBo> JosephH: well, I see. the thing is that you can make the same installation of grub2 under arch. not as automatically though :)
[00:35] <lexflex> JosephH:  is there any guide for this?
[00:35] <uplinked> hi, i have a PPA i loved to use back in Lucid, but it's not packaged for Oneric yet. Can I force-add this PPA to Oneric from bash somehow?
[00:36] <bem_kente> tem alguem ai que fala Portugues
[00:36] <lexflex> JosephH: this whole partitioning and booting really kicked my ass today. i couldnt get it to work
[00:36] <JosephH> Okay, Well I have it so that OSX takes up 200GB, Then I have a 15GB FAT32 encrypted with truecrypt, a 150GB ntfs with my personal data and the rest is in an extended. I have , in the extended 80GB for win8 and the rest divided equally between Arch and Ubuntu
[00:36] <tolmun> I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For. U2 are plaing in may nevron helmet.  Fan control, pwm-capable sensor missing and libsensors exist on in tutorials =)
[00:36] <JosephH> All my personall files are kept in one partition, the others are ONLY for os files. ALL of my desktop folders are symlinks to a "Desktop" folder in this partition.
[00:37] <MagBo> JosephH: so the sared partition is the truecrypt one, right?
[00:37] <MagBo> and that NTFS
[00:37] <JosephH> MagBo, Nope, its the 150GB ntfs , the 15GB fat32 is for things I wanna hide and can be used by all 3 via truecrypt
[00:38] <MagBo> Yeah-yeah, perfectly aware of truecrypt. so Mac OS x _does_ have an adequate ntfs-3g analogue by now?
[00:38] <JosephH> Oh, forgot, 100GB for Win7 inside the extended aswell haha
[00:38] <JosephH> MagBo, Yup. Works good enough for me.
[00:38] <MagBo> cause see, HFS+ used to make the linux kernel panic :)
[00:38] <MagBo> nice
[00:39] <JosephH> MagBo, Oh, and make sure to install the hfs progs :P
[00:39]  * MagBo brb - boot to ubuntu >.<
[00:39] <lexflex> JosephH: how do i prevent the systems to fuck up each other? i had this problem today. installed ubuntu. worked. then tried to install win 7 and suddenly neither ubuntu nor windows works
[00:39] <MagBo> JosephH: not that I'm gonna use Apple any time soon
[00:39] <MagBo> lexflex: what do you mean by "works"?
[00:40] <lexflex> i couldnt boot anymore
[00:40] <pangolin> lexflex: Please keep the language clean in here
[00:40] <lexflex> sorry
[00:40] <JosephH> Haha, thats because You have to install windows 7 using the bootcamp thing, and then ubuntu, so that grub2 will overwrite bootcamp. OSX will complain, Windows will complain, google and you can fix it.
[00:40] <MagBo> and have you read what JosephH wrote close enough? If you aren't ready to mess with boot loaders go from Windows to Linuxes, not vice-versa
[00:40] <lexflex> JosephH: thats what i did after resigning! :)
[00:41] <lexflex> JosephH:  now its actually lion + win 7 with bootcamp
[00:42] <JosephH> Honestly, lexflex Then stick ubuntu in there. Use bootcamp to make a fat32 partition, and do the whole thing up untill where you install windows, then reboot and install ubuntu.
[00:42] <meoblast> i have a bit of a problem
[00:43] <meoblast> the US International with AltGR deadkeys seems to be broken
[00:43] <JosephH> Lexflex Oh, and if that doesn't work for you, try installing the ubuntu bootloader to its root partition instead of /dev/sda
[00:43] <meoblast> i cant type quotations anymore
[00:43] <meoblast> apostrophe + s looks like ś
[00:43] <lexflex> JosephH: i don't get it.. how to use bootcamp to create a partition now? i mean, i already did install win 7 with bootcamp. this is working currently
[00:43] <meoblast> this is not the US International keyboard ive come to love
[00:44] <z4r> hi all
[00:45] <lexflex> JosephH: did you mean disk utility instead?
[00:45] <JosephH> lexflex, Well, what I personally did was use the disk utility to make 3 partitions, Installed windows 7, Rebooted into ubuntu, opened up gparted and finished the layout. And then rebooted into OSX, installed windows 8 into one, then to arch for another, and finally ubuntu.
[00:45] <JosephH> lexflex, Yea sorry >.< I'm still getting used to OSX.
[00:46] <asdf-> i switched to ALSA instead of Pulse Audio... gstreamer-properties works but Sound Settings doesnt show any audio hardware...
[00:46] <lexflex> JosephH: so you actually didnt use boot camp?
[00:46] <JosephH> lexflex, I did for windows 7/windows 8.
[00:46] <JosephH> lexflex, When I say "installed windows 7" "installed windows 8" that was using bootcamp.
[00:47] <lexflex> JosephH: i wouldnt imagine how you do this? bootcamp seems so limited to me. like, one windows and thats it.
[00:47] <KWhat4> where on earth are the screen saver settings in 11.10 ?
[00:48] <JosephH> lexflex, Its not that limited. I followed tutorials so I really don't understand much of it XD. But its out there. Just google around. I'm sorry I can't be of more help but I don't understand OSX or bootcamp myself.
[00:48] <MagBo> JosephH: grr, all I get using pendrivelinux installation is the same "GRUB" upon boot
[00:48] <MagBo> :(
[00:48]  * MagBo goes to ubuntu.com to get instructions
[00:48] <JosephH> MagBo, D: Try using a Cd then
[00:49] <lexflex> JosephH: do you have a link maybe for the tutorials? the thing is, i followed a tutorial myself. i mentioned the result..
[00:49] <MagBo> JosephH: see, I know how to boot from grub's bash
[00:49] <meoblast001> ok
[00:49] <^Mike\b> After I empty my trashcan, the icon doesn't change. How can I get it to detect that it really is empty?
[00:49] <meoblast001> it seems AltGr for several keys is backwards
[00:49] <MagBo> the matter is that it doesn't respond to keypresses
[00:49] <meoblast001> i have to do AltGr to get ' and "
[00:49] <meoblast001> that is not how it is supposed to work
[00:50] <JosephH> lexflex, There on the OSX safari history but I don't know them off by hand and I can't use my MBP right now. Thats why I'm on my gateway. Its battaries drained and we got heavy winds... I'm not risking a surge haha. I don't care about this laptop, 2 surges and its still fine XD.
[00:51] <MagBo> JosephH: ubuntu.com says exact same thing - grab ubuntu 11 iso, fire pendrivelinux
[00:51] <MagBo> :((
[00:51] <JosephH> MagBo, Hmm... I would try searching around. Or use the CS.
[00:51] <JosephH> CD*
[00:51] <lexflex> JosephH: okay no worries. i will figure this out somehow
[00:52] <MagBo> JosephH: the setup is - 2GB usb stick and win7 pc
[00:52] <MagBo> no cds or anything
[00:53] <MagBo> worst thing is that it's 3AM here
[00:53] <strix_> MagBo: what you are trying to accomplish?
[00:53] <ksbalaji> Where do I get hugin panorama help? On loading, I get a big spectrum circle preview. Not the panorama.
[00:53] <MagBo> strix_: I need ubuntu live usb with the following stuff:
[00:53] <MagBo> OpenPGP, OpenSSH, Tor Browser Bundle, Firefox 7
[00:54] <MagBo> strix_: as I have already told, my setup is Win7 PC and 2GB usb stick
[00:54] <MagBo> strix_: what I face is irresponsive "GRUB" line upon boot
[00:55] <kendrickLeiter> I have upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 via Update Manager.  Is there a way to create a 11.10 boot disc without already having an .iso file?
[00:55] <MagBo> strix_: can I try to use wubi to install ubuntu on usb stick? :D
[00:55] <JosephH> kendrickLeiter, no.
[00:55] <kendrickLeiter> Thank you
[00:56] <JosephH> MagBo, Yea, insert the usb while booted into windows
[00:56] <ksbalaji> How do  I make my external 1-TB HDD ubuntu bootable?
[00:56] <strix_> MagBo: you could use 11.10 on usb stick through pendrivelinux.com installer + 700 Mb or what's left for persistent storage, then boot ubuntu and apt-get the rest
[00:57] <JosephH> ksbalaji, Go into bios and set usb harddrives above internal ones.
[00:57] <meoblast001> no one else is using US International?
[00:57] <lexflex> JosephH: thanks for your help
[00:57] <JosephH> meoblast001,  I use Canadian french >.<
[00:57] <JosephH> lexflex, No problem
[00:57] <lexflex> JosephH: at least i know now that it is possible. i will keep trying
[00:58] <MagBo> strix_: I tried to. but I'm facing irresponsive "GRUB" that's printed on screen w/o any chance to put kernel and initrd lines in
[00:58] <meoblast001> Shift + ' != ¨
[00:58] <JosephH> lexflex, Try reading the archlinux wiki, that taught me alot.
[00:58] <ksbalaji> JosephH, Thanks. How to load my ext-hdd with boot prog?
[00:58] <JosephH> ksbalaji, With grub 2 , you mean?
[00:58] <ksbalaji> JosephH, yes. How?
[00:58] <JosephH> ksbalaji, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1367875
[00:59] <ksbalaji> JosephH, thanks.
[01:00] <ksbalaji> anyhelp hugin?
[01:00] <MagBo> JosephH: strix_: wubi can't detect the usb stick
[01:00]  * JosephH ><> Fishy ....
[01:00] <JosephH> MagBo, Wubi is on the usb stick.
[01:00] <JosephH> MagBo, Go to your usb drive while in windows, theres a wubi.exe
[01:01] <MagBo> JosephH: and It'l kexec in ubuntu from windows? :D:D:D
[01:01]  * JosephH MagBo It should install Ubuntu like normal wubi does, the "program in windows" fashion
[01:01] <JosephH>  MagBo It should install Ubuntu like normal wubi does, the "program in windows" fashion
[01:01] <JosephH> oops :P
[01:01] <strix_> MagBo: :(
[01:03] <JosephH> LMAO! I typed in /join #fishy for a joke, and the topic of the channel is "Scientists insist on using complex terminology to make it harder for True Christians to refute their claims. Deoxyribonucleic Acid, for example... sounds impressive? But have you seen what happens if you put something in acid? If we had all this acid in our cells, we'd all dissolve! So much for the Theory of Evoluion"
[01:03] <Flannel> JosephH: Please help keep this channel ontopic, thanks.
[01:03] <JosephH> Sorry >.<
[01:03]  * MagBo thinks of making his own archlinux fork for live usb with x server and all the needed kernel modules for mainstream video adapters. could be faster than installing ubuntu :D
[01:04] <JosephH> I'm distracted easily. Thats why mods tend to get mad at me ....
[01:04] <strigoi66> Does anyone know of a way to compile a .py file to .exe?
[01:04] <strigoi66> on linux?
[01:04] <iceroot> strigoi66: #python
[01:04] <dlbike76> MagBo:  There is info on the ubuntu wiki about how to create a custom liveCD/USB.
[01:05] <strigoi66> thank you, sorry bout that
[01:06] <MagBo> dlbike76: *okayface*. btw, am I right assuming that once I get ubuntu booted I'll be able to use it with virtually any mainstream video adapters out of the box?
[01:06]  * JosephH wonders why all these people loggin and log out but never say a word...
[01:07] <sha11owbay> Hi, I installed ushare from the software center, and it gets started with an /etc/init.d/ushare start -- how do i make it so it starts when i log in?
[01:07] <Gentoo64> JosephH: some people have their clients set to auto join
[01:07] <asdf-> anyone know how to get a sound mixer back in unity? i am using ALSA and not Pulse Audio
[01:07] <tolmun> I cant manage psd files inside gimp. Is the only way portable CS inside wine, or VirtualBox?
[01:07] <JosephH> Gentoo64, Lot more then "some" lmao.
[01:07] <JosephH> asdf-, command: alsamixer ?
[01:08] <JosephH> tolmun, CS5.5 is not working under wine as of now.
[01:08] <asdf-> JosephH, thanks... was hoping for a GUI... gstreamer-properties detects the sound card and plays a test sound but i cant get sound to work anywhere else
[01:09] <asdf-> JosephH, thanks... was hoping for a GUI... gstreamer-properties detects the sound card and plays a test sound but i cant get sound to work anywhere else
[01:09] <JosephH> asdf-, Sadly I don't know much about GUI utilies. I'm too used to the command line.
[01:10] <asdf-> thanks
[01:10] <asdf-> i appreciate it though
[01:10] <MagBo> asdf-: ncurses are gui
[01:10] <MagBo> :D
[01:10] <dlbike76> MagBo:  I've had good luck with previous Ubuntu LiveCD's with various video adapters, but YMMV.
[01:10] <Gentoo64> MagBo: its not :)
[01:11] <MagBo> Gentoo64: o_0 y gentoo on ubuntu chan
[01:11] <JosephH> Nah, there a serial terminal interface :D
[01:11] <Reikoku> ncurses is wonderful
[01:11] <Reikoku> It's basically gui but works through ssh
[01:11] <JosephH> I'm an Archuser on a ubuntu chan. Ubuntu has the best irc for helping people.
[01:11] <Reikoku> Yeah NetBSD user here
[01:11]  * MagBo is afk for reboot full of hope
[01:11] <MagBo> archlinux here either
[01:12]  * JosephH 's last message was sarcasm ....
[01:12] <JosephH> oops second last, now thrid.
[01:12] <JosephH> third*
[01:12] <JosephH> The thing about it being a STI.
[01:12]  * JosephH hides.
[01:14] <polishdude20> hey guys
[01:14] <polishdude20> anyone there?
[01:14] <Gentoo64> hi
[01:14] <JosephH> Yes :P
[01:14] <JosephH> !ask | polishdude20
[01:14] <polishdude20> i was wondering if I could get some insight into ubuntu?
[01:14] <JosephH> polishdude20, Sure :D
[01:15] <polishdude20> k, well what is your personal opinion about the advantages of ubuntu over another OS? Basiaclly can you try and "sell" it to me?
[01:15] <JosephH> polishdude20, Compared to what? Windows? OSX? Another Linux?
[01:15] <jrib> polishdude20: try it and see if you like it
[01:15] <polishdude20> compared to other linux OS's and windows?
[01:16] <pangolin> the sales pitch is on ubuntu.com
[01:16] <Gentoo64> polishdude20: you can use it in a livecd without installing it. very slow compared to how it is really like though
[01:16] <polishdude20> I tried it but it felt bare to me
[01:16] <jrib> polishdude20: "bare"?
[01:16] <JosephH> polishdude20, Windows is windows, nuff said. Ubuntu beats it by being bassed on a *nix platform.
[01:16] <Gentoo64> polishdude20: well what do you want to use your comp for?
[01:16] <Reikoku> polishdude20: What difference are you looking for between Ubuntu and other Linuxs?
[01:16] <Reikoku> It's the easiest to set up to a point where it is usable practically out of the box
[01:17] <polishdude20> well I guess right now windows is fine for me, im running xp cause i can't stand the shit I get from 7 and vista
[01:17] <MagBo> JosephH: no luck again. look what I have though: http://nn.lv/6hax
[01:17] <JosephH> polishdude20, Compared to other linux, simple, were the one thats going to market. Were the most popular, we got the cash and support behind us. Were taking it to the top :) We offer unrivale user-friendly-ness and ease of package management
[01:17] <polishdude20> well ive heard the other linuxes are a lot of coding based
[01:17] <MagBo> Reikoku: easiest?
[01:17] <MagBo> Reikoku: well, I hoped so as well
[01:17] <Reikoku> MagBo: Takes the least effort/knowledge to install and operate
[01:17] <JosephH> polishdude20, None are code bassed really. Bash Is the only language you should know, but its used as much on ubuntu as it is on OSX.
[01:17] <polishdude20> that's true
[01:17] <asdf-> gstreamer-properties recognizes my sound card and i can hear a test sound but Unity's Sound Settings shows no hardware... anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[01:18] <Gentoo64> polishdude20: do you play games on xp?
[01:18] <zromayn> hello there, I'm trying to find a way to show some progress when copying files in ubuntu via terminal. I've gone through all the "cp" command options and can't find anything. Is there any command to do so?
[01:18] <Gentoo64> zromayn: cp -v
[01:18] <polishdude20> ye i play games on xp
[01:18] <MonkeyDust> zromayn: try watch
[01:18] <MagBo> Reikoku: though while it takes me ten minutes to make a live usb of archlinux under linux it took me about an hour (and counting) to make an ubuntu usb
[01:19] <Gentoo64> polishdude20: well you might need to dual boot for games. wine isnt that great
[01:19] <MagBo> okay guys, what I've done is I made a tiny slax usb stick that boots
[01:19] <Reikoku> MagBo: To be expected, Arch is a far simpler and smaller barebones setup
[01:19] <nunuyabiz> I'm burning an iso. I copied it from a cd. Brasero makes two files. One it calls brasero. The other is called brasero.toc. Are both necessary to burn the iso? If I select the brasero file only, will it burn the iso correctly?
[01:19] <Gentoo64> i wouldnt rely on it anyway
[01:19] <zromayn> Gentoo64: That one doesn't show progress in file size. That's what I'm looking for. My bad for not being more specific.
[01:19] <Reikoku> MagBo: Takes me less than 10 for my NetBSD USB stick
[01:19] <MonkeyDust> polishdude20: i use win xp as a virtual machine
[01:19] <JosephH> I g2g, C-yahs :P
[01:19] <zromayn> MonkeyDust: let me try that one.
[01:19] <MagBo> I can load the system to RAM then unmount usb stick
[01:20] <dardevelin> hi, is anyone in here subscribed to ubuntuforums.org ?
[01:20] <MagBo> so I virtually have a linux tty and 2GB usb stick
[01:20] <Gentoo64> dardevelin: is that the normal forum page?
[01:20] <jrib> dardevelin: ask your actual question
[01:20] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| dardevelin
[01:20] <ozzloy> in case anyone's curious, i found a fix to my sd card reader problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/773524
[01:20] <Reikoku> polishdude20: http://appdb.winehq.org Check your games here if they don't have native Linux versions
[01:20] <dardevelin> i need more favor the a question, i wanted to have a look at two attached files from this post
[01:20] <dardevelin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866857
[01:21] <MagBo> so gentlemen, is there an adequate way to install ubuntu on a usb stick using dd?
[01:21] <jrib> dardevelin: so register for the forums
[01:21] <Reikoku> MagBo: Why use dd? Just boot from Ubuntu CD and install to USB device
[01:21] <Reikoku> I don't recommend it at all, the amount of io on an Ubuntu base install will kill your flash drive in weeks
[01:22] <dardevelin> jrib, i don't like to multi spread my data when not Huber necessary ...
[01:22] <jrib> dardevelin: huh?
[01:22] <MagBo> Reikoku: I have Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD only :3
[01:22] <Gentoo64> dardevelin: dont be so paranoid :)
[01:22] <Gentoo64> dardevelin: make a junk gmail account or somehting
[01:22] <pangolin> dardevelin: its uber and ubuntuforums.org doesn't spam or sell your info.
[01:22] <MonkeyDust> MagBo: why not download the latest version?
[01:22] <Reikoku> MagBo: Download ISO for latest live CD, mount under VirtualBox, install to USB stick
[01:23] <KillaByte> xubuntu or ubuntu??? which is beter?
[01:23] <KillaByte> better*
[01:23] <Gentoo64> KillaByte: xubuntu is lighter.. thats all
[01:23] <dardevelin> Gentoo64, it's not about being paranoid, i don't like forums i hate them, and i run them almost always i can... Plus i would register for one single thing... i'll prefer to start scattering all the net 1st... Really prefer to keep my data to me
[01:23] <MonkeyDust> !best| KillaByte
[01:23] <MagBo> oh guys, know what - I'll just wget archlinux and install it to live usb and then will do the modprobe mess with respect to the hardware I use
[01:24] <dardevelin> so this was an attempt to get a shortcut
[01:24] <Reikoku> MagBo: What are you planning to use the USB for?
[01:24] <Gentoo64> dardevelin: if its personal info, do what i do and make a gmail account or something that you only use for "mess"
[01:24] <yman> I just cam in here to say that ubuntu 11.10 is the worst os i have ever seen...... 11.4 was rough but at least it was workable
[01:24] <Reikoku> You realise persistance on USB is likely to kill the low grade flash memory very very quickly?
[01:24] <nunuyabiz> MagBo; if you use the Ubuntu start up disk creator to make a bootable usb, then you can use dd to create another usb. That may be a workaround that won't help you, but it is one way you can do it
[01:24] <Jordan_U> !ot | yman
[01:24] <MonkeyDust> there's also a 1 minute mail
[01:24] <MonkeyDust> 1 = 10
[01:25] <jettaracer> can anyone help me with my wireless internet issues? I've been reading message boards for hours with no luck...
[01:25] <Gentoo64> yeah but some forums block tempaddresses
[01:25] <Reikoku> yman: Tried the latest Fedora?
[01:25] <evansdny> hey
[01:25] <Reikoku> yman: It's far worse :P
[01:25] <yman> no i havent
[01:25] <KillaByte> xubuntu for sucky  pc's i get it thanks
[01:25] <yman> i am looking at freebsd
[01:25] <Gentoo64> KillaByte: no its not
[01:25] <dardevelin> Gentoo64, btw you do use gento or is just a nick ( sorry offtopic )
[01:25] <Gentoo64> dardevelin: yea
[01:26] <Reikoku> KillaByte: xubuntu is for people who like xfce, I like xfce and I use an i7 with 16GB RAM
[01:26] <yman> at least it will recognize my 64
[01:26] <Gentoo64> KillaByte: a lot of people use light des on fast comps
[01:26] <Reikoku> yman: Doesn't 11.10 recognise your 64 bit CPU?
[01:26] <yman> haha
[01:26] <MagBo> Reikoku: to boot from it on a random computer at work/internet caffe to be able to get my pentadactyl tbb, openpgp and a neat shell not installing anything on a computer I'm at and even w/o being noticed
[01:26] <Reikoku> yman: I moved to BSD years ago, NetBSD though :)
[01:26] <yman> it barely can boot up
[01:27] <Reikoku> MagBo: I use NetBSD on a USB stick with a cgd encrypted partition
[01:27] <Jordan_U> yman: If you have an Ubuntu support question please ask it without the theatrics. If you don't have an Ubuntu support question then please find another channel.
[01:27] <Reikoku> for similar use at university
[01:27] <nunuyabiz> MagBo unetbootin may be a better to than startup disk depending on the distribution you are going to use. Maybe you can borrow a usb from a friend if you don't have a spare on
[01:27] <pangolin> yman: do you have an ubuntu support question? if not please join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss how much ubuntu sucks. :)
[01:27] <yman> I dont have a question i am makeing a statement
[01:27] <yman> lol
[01:27] <coz_> #ubuntu-offtopoic
[01:27] <nunuyabiz>  I'm burning an iso. I copied it from a cd. Brasero makes two files. One it calls brasero. The other is called brasero.toc. Are both necessary to burn the iso? If I select the brasero file only, will it burn the iso correctly?
[01:27] <coz_> offtopic
[01:28] <Reikoku> yman: Ubuntu releases are usually pretty bad when they first come out, they only get better when people who they don't work for talk about it and resolve their issues :P
[01:28] <MonkeyDust> yman: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <KillaByte> i think i better stick with the regular being im a noob lol
[01:28] <pangolin> !ot | Reikoku
[01:28] <Reikoku> pangolin: I don't ask support questions, I answer support questions
[01:28] <pangolin> Reikoku: great, please stop the off topic comments in that case.
[01:29] <Cheap_Scotsman> Hey folks
[01:29] <Reikoku> I'd be somewhat incredibly surprised if my own support questions were answered in here given that I haven't used Ubuntu since 2007
[01:29] <jettaracer> can anyone help me out with my wireless card? I can't get ubuntu to recognize my networks
[01:29] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  hey guy
[01:29] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| jettaracer
[01:29] <Cheap_Scotsman> jettaracer, welcome to the club
[01:29] <coz_> jettaracer,   I am bad at solving wireless issues so I will pass this one on
[01:30] <Reikoku> jettaracer: I recommend trying wicd, it works very well with most wireless cards
[01:30] <yman> ok, why cant i install an older version of ubuntu? all i get are errors when trying to go back to 10.4
[01:30] <Cheap_Scotsman> Just to please MonkeyDust...
[01:30] <coz_> yman,  most of the older ones are no longer supported
[01:30] <MonkeyDust> yman: older version are no longer supported, it's called EOL, end of life
[01:30] <Cheap_Scotsman> Is anyone able to advise on a package manager error with wireless drivers?
[01:30] <yman> or should i go ahead and try freebsd
[01:31] <tolmun> jettaracer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6183681
[01:31] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   what is the error?
[01:31] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ , "bcmwl-kernel-source: Depends: dkms but it is not installed"
[01:31] <Gentoo64> yman, why?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> yman: This is your last warning about offtopic comments.
[01:31] <KillaByte> Does anyone know a fix to kazam screencaster when the audio is not recording?
[01:31] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, "The package system is broken  Check if you are using third-party repositories. If so, disable them, because they are a common source of problems."
[01:32] <yman> ok
[01:32] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  well.. the third party issue is one that is easily solved,,, well it was with synaptic package manager and unticking the third party repositories
[01:32] <nunuyabiz> yman you don't have an old cd with an old version? you can install if you have an old cd
[01:33] <yman> that is what i used
[01:33] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   in terminal try    sudo apt-get install dkms
[01:33] <yman> the cd
[01:33] <nunuyabiz> It didn't work?
[01:33] <yman> no just gave me errors and took over 30 min to tell me that
[01:33] <yman> i also tried it twice
[01:33] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, "The package system is broken  Check if you are using third-party repositories. If so, disable them, because they are a common source of problems."
[01:34] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, oops, supposedly one cannot copypasta terminals.
[01:34] <nunuyabiz> yman are you installing on a new computer, or is it old?
[01:34] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   are you on 11.10?
[01:34] <yman> its an old acer
[01:34] <jettaracer> Reikoku: What is wicd? How do i try it?
[01:34] <yman> yes i am om 11.10
[01:34] <nunuyabiz> how old? is it p4?
[01:34] <yman> amd64
[01:34] <MagBo> haaahahahaha guess what
[01:35] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ Yeah 11.10. Error for the sudo apt-get was "Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg)
[01:35] <MagBo> wubi broke boot loader on the current computer
[01:35] <nunuyabiz> yman what version do you want to install
[01:35] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   ok are you using synaptic package manager?
[01:35] <detly> where can I ask questions about packaging?
[01:35] <yman> 10.4
[01:35] <yman> it works good
[01:35] <MagBo> guys, are you sure that the current ubuntu release has working grub in it?
[01:35] <nunuyabiz> yman are you using the AMD version of 10.4?
[01:35] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Of course it does.
[01:35] <yman> no
[01:36] <yman> stantard
[01:36] <yman> standard
[01:36] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, I have not specifically opened it, so not unless it has come preloaded and loads when attempting (and failing) to install b-43 wireless drivers.
[01:36] <yman> 32
[01:36] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   ok in terminal  try    gksudo  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:36] <yman> the 64 doesnt work
[01:36] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, I have been fiddling with "Software sources" trying to get files off the install CD prior to having a connection, though.
[01:36] <MagBo> Jordan_U: okay, than why on earth it fails to boot ubuntu usb stick and wubi either? :D
[01:36] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  when that opens hit the  "Other Software"  tab
[01:36] <nunuyabiz> yman you need to download and burn the amd 64 version of 10.4
[01:37] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, I am "terminally challenged" so paths tend to be difficult.
[01:37] <yman> i did that once and it told me it was not compatible
[01:37] <ouyes> hi guys, do you know any file transfer tools  which transfer files between pcs in a local area network?
[01:37] <yman> when i tried to install it
[01:37] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   ok no problem
[01:37] <urlin2u> MagBo, if you accept a grub update in wubi it will overwrite your mbr, you can reload the mbr with the windows bootloader with a windows recovery or install disc.
[01:37] <Jordan_U> MagBo: How did you make the USB stick? What happens when you try to boot it? What happens when you try to boot via Wubi?
[01:37] <nunuyabiz> yman I've tried it before and the standard 32 bit version didn't work on amd64, so I got the amd version and it worked
[01:37] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   just copy and paste this command in the terminal       gksudo  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:37] <tolmun> ouyes: ssh or dropbox
[01:38] <Jordan_U> coz_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:38] <yman> the 32 does work but now that i have installed the 11.10 it will not
[01:38] <coz_> Jordan_U,  absolutely right  thanks :)
[01:38] <Jordan_U> coz_: You're welcome.
[01:38] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   sorry  the command is    gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:38] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, "gTK WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap".
[01:38] <nunuyabiz> yman are you going back because you want LTS?
[01:38] <yman> there is a amd32
[01:39] <Jordan_U> yman: What problem are you having specifically? Are you actually hoping to solve said problem or are you still just complaining?
[01:39] <LuckySMack> when using 'apt-cache search' is there a way to show them whether they are installed or not? similar to 'aptitude search' ?
[01:39] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   and no text file opend?
[01:39] <yman> or is it just the 32bit system
[01:39] <ouyes> tolmun, ssh? I can not find dropbox in the ubuntu software center
[01:39] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, One just opened with the new command
[01:39] <yman> standard
[01:39] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  cool
[01:39] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, sources.list
[01:40] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  is it a text file or a  gui window?
[01:40] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, and there's an "untitled document1 -gedit" working away...
[01:40] <tolmun> ouyes: ssh is one way but drob ox is
[01:40] <yman> i ran the 32 on here and i am trying to reinstall it with the same disk i used before
[01:40] <nunuyabiz> yman I don't think there is 32 bit amd. I think (but I'm not sure) You said you system is amd64?
[01:40] <yman> but us is not working
[01:40] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ it opened sources.list which is a text file and next to that is the gedit file which is empty.
[01:40] <yman> it is
[01:40] <tolmun> ouyes: dropbox deb is on website
[01:40] <ouyes> tolmun, what is drob ox?
[01:40] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman, mmm ok let me get you to open the gui one hold on
[01:40] <yman> but the 64 didnt work
[01:41] <Jordan_U> yman: What problem are you having specifically? We can't help you without details, and prefferably exact error messages.
[01:41] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  ok..open your home directory,,, click "File System" on the left column and maneuver to /etc/apt
[01:41] <tolmun> ouyes: http://www.dropbox.com/downloading
[01:41] <yman> nm
[01:41] <nunuyabiz> yman you might want to try zeroing out your hard disk and reformat. Reformat using a live disk and then install
[01:41] <MagBo> Jordan_U: the setup was the following: win7 machine+2GB usb stick. I fired that pendrivelinux thing and wrote ubuntu distro on the flash drive. what I got is irresponsive "GRUB" line printed on the screen with the only option to reboot the machine (as there wasn't a way to manually boot the thing from grub - no reaction to key presses)
[01:41] <yman> i dont have the error message as it was during the boot
[01:42] <yman> ok well ty for your time
[01:42] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ done
[01:42] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  when that opens,, click on the file  "sources.list"  and i should prompt you for your password and than open the guui
[01:42] <nunuyabiz> yman good luck
[01:42] <coz_> gui
[01:42] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ it's open, all text
[01:42] <coz_> ??
[01:43] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  ok ..what is opened right now on the desktop and minimized as well?
[01:43] <ouyes> tolmun, thanks
[01:43] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ software sources, Firefox, workplace switcher, text editor
[01:43] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Universal USB installer doesn't use grub, it uses syslinux. Are you sure that you're booting from the USB drive?
[01:43] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz, and a terminal
[01:44] <MagBo> Jordan_U: yes, I am sure
[01:44] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  ok close everything excpet the irc client you are using for here
[01:44] <osg> In case anyone asks about input methods again, I write this:
[01:44] <osg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11432850#post11432850
[01:44] <MagBo> Jordan_U: oh
[01:44] <MagBo> now I see it!
[01:44] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  then reopen a terminal   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:44] <MagBo> GRUB is left in MBR from previous archlinux installation on the stick
[01:44] <MagBo> Jordan_U: could it be that?
[01:45] <MagBo> I mean, it sounds pretty impossible
[01:45] <MagBo> but all that windows software can be that buggy :D
[01:45] <Jordan_U> MagBo: I would be very surpriesed if Universal USB installer didn't overwrite the MBR of the USB drive it installed to.
[01:45] <tolmun> ouyes: you welcome
[01:45] <mlu1109> Hey guys, I'm running Xubuntu.. what I'm trying to do is install Google Chrome with GDebi but it keep telling me that the package is damaged or that I don't have the authorization to open it
[01:45] <MagBo> Jordan_U: any ideas then? )
[01:46] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ upgrade seemingly worked, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in the error "unmet dependencies" with the problem being the bcmwl-kernel-source wireless package I tried to download manually from the install CD
[01:46] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Can you plug the USB into another machine running some form of GNU/Linux, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it creates?
[01:46] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | MagBo
[01:46] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   ok now try   sudo apt-get install dkms
[01:46] <MagBo> Jordan_U: haha, I'd be sooo happy if I could :D
[01:47] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, Unmet dependencies again, suggests apt-get f install
[01:47] <MagBo> Jordan_U: the problem is that I really desparately need a linux in the place I currently am :D
[01:47] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,   ok   sudo apt-get -f  install
[01:47] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Can't boot from CD?
[01:48] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, seemingly worked,  it's unpacking the dkms
[01:48] <MagBo> Jordan_U: oh yeah! you're right, I have that ubuntu 5.10 live cd
[01:48] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  ok , when that is done retry installing the package you tried before with the dkms error
[01:48] <Thelmaria> Jordan_U: (from hours ago): thanks, I didn't realize sh called dash, not bash.
[01:48] <MagBo> though atm I'm making archlinux live usb already :D
[01:48] <tolmun> when adobe will make cs for us =)
[01:49] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, the package manager error just disappeared and the DKMS install competed (yay)
[01:49] <Jordan_U> MagBo: You can't run to the store and buy a blank CD to burn a supported version of Ubuntu to?
[01:49] <MagBo> Jordan_U: 4AM here man :D
[01:49] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  there you go :)
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Thelmaria: You're welcome.
[01:49] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_ can I try by just double clicking the install pack I saved to my home file, or should I try to do something via the software centre?
[01:49] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Tomorrow then :)
[01:49] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  either way..
[01:49] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Or, later this morning :)
[01:49] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, it's a b-43 wireless driver/firmware/something to make my wireless card work. K I'll try double click
[01:50] <moes> Why is Ubuntu 10.04 still have Firefox 3.6...Other distros are using Firefox 7.0 ???
[01:50] <MagBo> Jordan_U: what I did is that I've loaded linux in RAM on the machine and wiped the flashdrive, wgot the archlinux iso and dding it to the stick
[01:50] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  I am assuming that a restart of the system is going to be required since it is firmware
[01:50] <Jordan_U> MagBo: You could do the same with an Ubuntu 11.10 iso.
[01:50] <MagBo> moes: oh noes, apt-get install firefox will update it :D
[01:50] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, in the software centre it says the broadcom 802.11 linux STA wireless driver source is installed, yet in my wireless tab it shows that device as having missing firmware, restart then?
[01:51] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  yes that would or should take care of the missing error
[01:51] <MagBo> Jordan_U: okay, other ppl didn't mentioned that, thanks
[01:51] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  I probably wont be here when you return  but good luck on this :)
[01:51] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, I'll try that. I'll log back on in a minute but thank you very much if you leave by then
[01:51] <Jordan_U> MagBo: You're welcome.
[01:51] <coz_> Cheap_Scotsman,  no problem
[01:51] <Cheap_Scotsman> coz_, alright, thank you!
[01:51] <MagBo> Jordan_U: from your experience - will ubuntu liveusb run virtually on any vgas?
[01:52] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Virtually any, yes. I can't guarantee that you will have no problem with your graphics card.
[01:53] <MagBo> Jordan_U: okay
[01:53] <strix_> MagBo: so you have Ubuntu usb flash drive, you just can't boot from it?
[01:54] <airtonix> banshee :s y u no work
[01:54] <MagBo> strix_: yes. :(
[01:54] <reokie> Does your BIOS have the option to boot from USB in the first place?
[01:54] <MagBo> strix_: anyway, atm I already have archlinux usb flash drive that's bootable :D
[01:55] <reokie> Is arch going to be your first distro?
[01:56] <strix_> MagBo: in that case, did you properly setup BIOS to boot from usb?
[01:57] <MagBo> reokie: grep the log (to be short). no, it wasn't, my first linux distro was mandrake or mandriva (whatever was earlier) but after a couple of years I started using archlinux (more prolonged answer)
[01:57] <MagBo> strix_: yes I have. see, I have already booted from archlinux :D
[01:58] <strix_> MagBo: ah, ok
[01:58] <LuckySMack> when trying to install php5 package with apt-get I am getting this error: http://pastebin.com/dbH1iZN4
[01:58] <reokie> Ah, nice, I asked because I have alot of first time linux users wanting to start with Arch for some reason lol
[01:58] <LuckySMack> it tells me the package is already the newest version, but it is not installed.
[01:58] <LuckySMack> but tried to install anyways and fails.
[01:59] <MagBo> reokie: I totally understand them. It's simple in its very own arch way :)
[01:59] <MagBo> reokie: my ex-gf's first linux was arch too :P anyway, that's off the topic here I believe
[02:01] <JewKiller> how do I download 11.10
[02:01] <MagBo> JewKiller: your nick is offending personally me
[02:01] <LuckySMack> so it seems I am unable to install any of these packages. and I can't figure out why.
[02:01] <Jordan_U> JewKiller: Change your nick to something non-offensive. Now.
[02:01] <MagBo> JewKiller: nonetheless, man wget
[02:02] <JewKiller> MagBo: QQ more
[02:02] <lunitik> LuckySMack: apt-get install --reinstall package?
[02:03] <LuckySMack> lunitik, still fails with this result: http://pastebin.com/yxt0wVVD
[02:04] <MagBo> Jordan_U: don't tell me he wasn't using public proxy/Tor :D
[02:04] <LuckySMack> it's expecting that file to be there for some reason, but it's not because the packages are not installed on my system.
[02:06] <lunitik> LuckySMack: I don't think we should correct the package via this channel, you should prolly file a bug report on the packages it lists (php5-cli and libapache2-mod-php5) and wait for them to be fixed
[02:06] <lunitik> LuckySMack: you can touch the files to try your theory, but it looks to me like they just aren't in the package to start
[02:07] <LuckySMack> ok thats fine, but im currently needing the packages so need to find some workaround
[02:07] <LuckySMack> ill try that
[02:08] <lunitik> LuckySMack: you can go to #ubuntu-devel and ask how to repackage it yourself... it should be a simple edit of the postinst script
[02:08] <Jordan_U> lunitik: #ubuntu-devel is not for user support.
[02:08] <lunitik> Jordan_U: Is this channel for creating packages?
[02:09] <lunitik> or rather, for packaging help...
[02:09] <Jordan_U> lunitik: No. It's for Ubuntu Developers to discuss the development of Ubuntu.
[02:10] <lunitik> Jordan_U: No, I mean this channel, is it appropriate here to assist a user in unpacking, editing and repacking a .deb? It seems out of the scope to me
[02:10] <Jordan_U> lunitik: It's always best to read the topic of a channel before recommending it to someone else.
[02:10] <lunitik> I guess #ubuntu-motu would be a good palce
[02:10] <lunitik> place*
[02:10] <Jordan_U> lunitik: As part of user support, which this is, yes. Though it's probably easier to just edit the postinst script without recreating the package.
[02:11] <LuckySMack> ok creating that file makes it not give that error anymore, but it still doesnt completely install: http://pastebin.com/h3wWwpRc
[02:11] <lilrubyprog> Hey
[02:12] <somsip> LuckySMack: you tried reinstalling the sub-packages first? php5-cgi...etc...
[02:12] <lunitik> LuckySMack: that is the same paste
[02:12] <daweefolk> i just installed sudo, added myself to the sudoers file but i get three 'try again's when i try sudoing anything (before even a passwork prompt)
[02:12] <Jordan_U> daweefolk: Why did you need to install sudo? It's installed by default in Ubuntu.
[02:13] <lunitik> Jordan_U: The way I read the topic of #ubuntu-devel it seems it is for packaging assistance... since all Ubuntu devs really do is manage packages.
[02:13] <daweefolk> Jordan: I have a different distro, i just find ubuntu support has been best for me :)
[02:13] <histo> daweefolk: did you logout and logback in after adding yourself
[02:13] <histo> daweefolk: what distro?
[02:13] <daweefolk> *facepalm*
[02:14] <daweefolk> pclinuxos
[02:14] <Jordan_U> daweefolk: This channel only supports Ubuntu. Please don't ask for support for other distributions here.
[02:14] <daweefolk> sorry
[02:17] <LuckySMack> somsip, yes it complains about php5-cgi/php5-fpm but I don't want to install those because im using the mod-php5 apache module. so i don't know why it's trying to install those deps. It can't seem to install the apache module either. I get similar errors
[02:18] <geek7> does anyone know if ubuntu minimal/installer (the curses based, tiny one) includes memtest?
[02:18] <LuckySMack> lunitik, that was a new paste. but the error was probably the same.
[02:19] <somsip> LuckySMack: ISTM that if you want to install a  package, you allow the package manager to ddecide what deps it needs. I have php5-cgi and the apache2 module installed, but never use the cgi module. no biggie
[02:19] <dardevelin> just so you guys know ubuntu rocks
[02:20] <dardevelin> seriously
[02:20] <LuckySMack> somsip, yea but thats the problem, it can't seem to even install any of the dependencies.
[02:20]  * Dungeon admires the channel size which increases the active support here..... i do enjoy that
[02:20] <lunitik> LuckySMack: then you will have to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/thenameofthefiles.postinst and add 'touch thenameofthefile' early on in the script... then you can try installing again probably
[02:21] <corey__> does anyone in here know anything about fedora?
[02:21] <lunitik> corey__: the guys in #fedora might
[02:21] <somsip> LuckySMack: so if you apt-get install --reinstall php5-cgi (for example) what do you get?
[02:21] <corey__> #fedora
[02:21] <corey__> ?
[02:21] <lunitik> corey__: /j #fedora
[02:21] <LuckySMack> lunitik, ill check that out.
[02:21] <methylenedioxy> You could ignore the dependency with Synaptic I know but I think that's not a good practice.
[02:21] <dardevelin> corey__, i know a bit
[02:21] <methylenedioxy> easily with*
[02:22] <lamdk> mmm I think i have service ntp on, but the time is still all messed up.  Anyone know what to check?
[02:22] <corey__> im downloading a fedora spin version 15 (games) when version 16 comes out on the 8th will the spin be updated on the site so i can download it?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> corey__: Type "/join #fedora" (without the quotes) to join Fedora's support channel.
[02:22] <Mneumonic> Great, just moved my mother-in-law over to Xubuntu 11.10
[02:22] <Mneumonic> So far so good
[02:22] <Jordan_U> corey__: This is #ubuntu. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only.
[02:22] <mazda01> i can't for the life of me get ubuntuone to register my lucid lynx 10.04 install as a computer to sync with. Anyone help?
[02:22] <lilrubyprog> Mneumonic, congrats
[02:23] <lilrubyprog> I will help mazda01
[02:23] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, I've followed every tutorial out there. and it does NOT work
[02:23] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, ok, what shall I do?
[02:23] <lilrubyprog> Ok, did you try to go to the software center and do it from there?
[02:24] <mazda01> no
[02:24] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, no
[02:24] <esmirlin> hi is there any english native speaker a have a question very important!
[02:24] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, it's already installed though.
[02:24] <lilrubyprog> Ok, go to the dash home and search ubuntu one
[02:24] <lunitik> esmirlin: this is the english channel for ubuntu support, yes
[02:24] <mazda01> esmirlin, don't ask to ask a question. LOL, just ask it
[02:24] <Jordan_U> esmirlin: Is it an Ubuntu support question?
[02:24] <CarlFK> how do I remove a package and it's configs, even ones I have edited?  or how do I replace my edits with the clean confs?
[02:24] <infobit> esmirlin, ya ask
[02:25] <somsip> CarlFK: apt-get purge {packagename} then resinstall it again
[02:25] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, Ubuntu Software Center you're saying, and search for ubuntu one
[02:25] <esmirlin> it isn't a question about ubuntu but about language, but i don't know where to ask right now :(
[02:25] <Jordan_U> esmirlin: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related questions.
[02:25] <lunitik> CarlFK: apt-get remove --purge or dpkg -P ... you will have to just rm /files/you/edited because there is something which keeps those
[02:25] <CarlFK> somsip: tried that, /etc/nginx/sites-available/default didn't go away
[02:25] <CarlFK> oh.. --puirge.. .didn't try that
[02:25] <lilrubyprog> No, the dash. If you hold your pointer to the top left just under the bar then you can see the left panel, at the top is the logo click that (dash)
[02:26] <LuckySMack> somsip, having to touch a couple other files and installing php5-cgi may have made it work... checking things out
[02:27] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, i'm sorry, i have no idea what you're talking about. i have no left panel.
[02:27] <badbandit> is there a way to make all window top panels translucent just as you can make the main ubuntu top panel translucent with unity/compiz manager?
[02:28] <lilrubyprog> Nothing like this at the side? http://i.imgur.com/EUgGR.png
[02:28] <somsip> LuckySMack: k - I've had this recently with...something, I forget what. Ended up having to --reinstall a couple and install -f a couple. Got there in the end
[02:28] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, i said I am running 10.04, i don't have unity installed.
[02:29] <lilrubyprog> Oh I thought you said you had 11.10 I am sorry, ok then go to the top left ->internet-. ubuntu one
[02:30] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, have you ever gotten UbuntuOne to work in 10.04? There is NO UbuntuOne choice within Internet inside Applications.
[02:30] <CarlFK> why is this prompting? sudo apt-get remove --force-yes --purge nginx; "Do you want to continue [Y/n]? "
[02:30] <lilrubyprog> Yes I have, then I went to 11.10
[02:31] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, before maverick, you would click on UbuntuOne within System>Preferences and it should trigger a webpage to open which has a button that says "Add this Computer" That is NOT occuring
[02:31] <alazare619> !best cd burner
[02:31] <geek7> CarlFK: cause purge is somewhat final, i suppose
[02:31] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, well, there is no UbuntuOne within Applications>Internet
[02:31] <alazare619> hmm
[02:31] <spacebug-> since 12.04 will use gnome 3.2, will there still be the same (lack of) settings to make in the system?
[02:32] <Jordan_U> spacebug-: #ubuntu+1 for support and discussion of 12.04.
[02:32] <lilrubyprog> Ok, well what about Applications>system
[02:32] <spacebug-> Jordan_U: ok
[02:32] <Jordan_U> !best | alazare619
[02:32] <alazare619> thanks Jordan_U
[02:32] <Jordan_U> alazare619: You're welcome.
[02:33] <mewerner_arand> CarlFK: Since that's an inavlid flag for apt-get, the manual says "-y, --yes, --assume-yes"
[02:33] <CarlFK> mewerner_arand: doh..  thanks.
[02:33] <KoolaidJunkie> Hey, is there anyone here?
[02:33] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, only System within Applications is System Tools and there is NO UbuntuOne choice there either.
[02:34] <alazare619> looks like best bot is mia
[02:34] <mazda01> is anyone on right now that has 10.04 installed and is using UbuntuOne?
[02:34] <lilrubyprog> Hmm....did you install it from software center, or terminal?
[02:35] <KoolaidJunkie> Does anyone know anything about Ubuntu Server, that could help me out. I'm having trouble mounting a USB External Harddrive.
[02:35] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, it's installed by default.
[02:35] <alazare619> fuck you daylight savings time fucking up my sons schedule!
[02:35] <Jordan_U> KoolaidJunkie: Just ask your actual question.
[02:35] <pangolin> !language | alazare619
[02:35] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, these directions do NOT work
[02:35] <lilrubyprog> I didn't know UbuntuOne was install by default on 10.04
[02:36] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, oops, sorry. https://one.ubuntu.com/help/tutorial/install-and-setup-ubuntu-one-8/
[02:36] <lilrubyprog> mazda01, so I am guessing you figured it out?
[02:36] <juamji86> hey guys im having problems installing ubuntu on laptop i get a black and white screen when i try to install it  any one have an idea on how i can fix it
[02:36] <KoolaidJunkie> @Jordan_U that technically is the actual question. I want to mount a USB External HardDrive so I can share it through Samba. But it won't mount. I've tried everything I know, and it keeps outputting errors
[02:37] <CarlFK> http://dpaste.de/HdOgh/  now how do I get my config file back? :)
[02:37] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | juamji86
[02:37] <Jordan_U> !details | KoolaidJunkie
[02:37] <meowsus> Can someone here help me out with my fstab config? I have an external hard-drive thats showing up twice in my file manager. Once as automounted, and once as not automounted, and i cant figure out why that would happen with my current fstab configuration. The drive in question's options are "noauto,user,exec,rw,async" and i only use it for RSYNC backups.
[02:37] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, NO
[02:37] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, the link i posted does NOT work
[02:38] <lilrubyprog> Really?
[02:38] <mazda01> meowsus, if it's an external drive, you shouldn't have it in FSTAB at all.
[02:38] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, yes.
[02:39] <lilrubyprog> Ok, hold on.
[02:39] <KoolaidJunkie> Here is the Output from the Terminal
[02:39] <KoolaidJunkie> http://pastebin.com/yUQ1cSSN
[02:39] <Cheap_Scotsman> So I have 174 updates available in my updater manager for 11.10... Does anyone have advice on any packages that may encourage bugs or privacy issues?
[02:39] <meowsus> mazda01, intriguing.... Well, It doesn't move. It's only used for backups and is always plugged in, but I want to make sure it doesn't automount. I want to mount it myself before i pump my rsync stuff into it
[02:40] <Cheap_Scotsman> The info on a lot of these updates are quite vague
[02:40] <dr_willis> Cheap_Scotsman:  most updates are for security issues, or bug fixs.
[02:40] <Jordan_U> KoolaidJunkie: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[02:40] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, if you watch this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aece9s0lN4   the confirm computer access never pops up
[02:41] <lilrubyprog> ok will do
[02:41] <Cheap_Scotsman> dr_Willis: That's what I had assumed but I'm noticing a lot of solotaire games, auto crash reports and so on, which leads me to believe some are less than essential.
[02:41] <Cheap_Scotsman> dr_willis, /useful
[02:41] <KoolaidJunkie> http://pastebin.com/jHFs4J4Y
[02:42] <lilrubyprog> mazda01, Which browser you using?
[02:43] <jimubao> how do u connect to vpn with terminal ?
[02:43] <Jordan_U> KoolaidJunkie: I don't think that /dev/sdb1 has a valid filesystem on it. Why do you think it does?
[02:44] <KoolaidJunkie> I'm not sure if it has a filesystem or not. I bought it, did a format through windows, and have been adding files to it since.
[02:44] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, firefox 3.6.23
[02:44] <mazda01> meowsus, so you don't want it automounted?
[02:44] <lilrubyprog> Have you tried another browser?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> KoolaidJunkie: What did you format it as in Windows? Can you still access the files on it from Windows?
[02:45] <mazda01> lilrubyprog, no, what, would i install google chrome and set that as my default browser in my preferences?
[02:45] <meowsus> mazda01, right. It just sits on my desk, plugged in and all, but before I added the line to fstab it would just spin up for no reason on occasion.
[02:45] <KoolaidJunkie> NTFS. and Yes the files are access fine when connected to my Windows 7, Windows XP, and Ubuntu Desktop computers
[02:45] <mazda01> meowsus, maybe it's possible to add some udev rule that would not mount that particular device string.
[02:45] <meowsus> I just want it to be able to mount it before i run operations on it, then unmount it when i'm done, without haveing to disconnect it and reconnect it, ya dig?
[02:45] <lilrubyprog> No, you could try to use another browser to see if you can get the confirmation screen.
[02:46] <Jordan_U> KoolaidJunkie: Can you connect it to your Ubuntu Desktop computer and run "sudo blkid" from there?
[02:48] <KoolaidJunkie> Unfortunately Not tonight I can't. The Ubuntu/WindowsXP Machines are located in the Study, which is current occupied by a sleeping 1yr old nephew.
[02:48] <mazda01> meowsus, i dig. never have had to deal with that issue. thinking
[02:48] <meowsus> :)
[02:48] <mazda01> meowsus, you need to figure out how to get ubuntu to NOT auto mount that external usb drive
[02:48] <meowsus> Yeah, i've never really thought about it too much either, till i switched to lubuntu and it started just spinning seemingly randomly.
[02:48] <mazda01> anyone in here running 10.04
[02:49] <meowsus> Yeah, this is my goal
[02:49] <Jordan_U> KoolaidJunkie: My guess is that something is wrong with the drive / filesystem and you won't actually be able to access the files from other OSs either.
[02:49] <meowsus> And eff "MountManger" that program is an fstab butcher
[02:50] <BlackWeb> Just curious does anyone know of a good Program to manage IPOD on Ubuntu
[02:50] <methylenedioxy> Aren't mounts handled by udisks anyway? Adding them manually with mount always seems to not unmount as cleanly (directory is still there in /media)
[02:50] <KoolaidJunkie> The drive is fine, I had it plugged into my Windows 7 laptop just 30min ago, transferring file to it.
[02:50] <methylenedioxy> BlackWeb Amarok can do it, not totally sure about newer ones though
[02:51] <KoolaidJunkie> Shit, I think I know the problem, and it never dawned on me until now
[02:51] <mazda01> meowsus, what version you running?
[02:51] <BlackWeb> Alright thanks methylenedioxy, I'll give it a try and see how it goes :)
[02:52] <meowsus> 11.10 oneiric
[02:52] <KoolaidJunkie> The hard drive is protected by Window Bitlocker, which is preventing Linux from access it
[02:52] <Planetary> Ok
[02:52] <KoolaidJunkie> So sorry for wasting your time.
[02:52] <unclemantis> i type exit and get a message saying there are stopped jobs
[02:52] <unclemantis> what does this mean and should i worry?
[02:53] <Cheap_Scotsman> Many of the updates in the update manager for 11.10 are for GNOME desktop functionality... Does that in any way effect the experience of someone just using Unity?
[02:54] <Planetary> I cant seem to partition alligned right. I have Xp and 11.04. Disk utility is telling me its off by 512bytes. what the hell
[02:54] <mazda01> meowsus, what ubuntu version you using?
[02:55] <meowsus> mazda01, 11.10 oneiric
[02:55] <unknown_> hi there
[02:55] <unknown_> how to copy ssh keys to another ubuntu machine? thanks
[02:56] <meowsus> unknown_, it can't be as easy as copying ~/.ssh can it?
[02:56] <unknown_> I have tried using ssh-copy-id -i from my machine
[02:56] <unknown_> my machine name is uvm1 and the other is uvm2
[02:56] <unknown_> so I did like this
[02:57] <venluckey> hello, all
[02:57] <unknown_> ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub uvm1@uvm2
[02:57] <unknown_> but it asked me for a password
[02:59] <Jordan_U> unknown_: That's expected. You need to authenticate with the remote host if you want it to trust you.
[03:00] <mazda01> unknown_, right, you need to enter the password to login to that machine
[03:00] <mazda01> unknown_, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/#more-268
[03:00] <mazda01> meowsus, i'll be right back, need to restart
[03:01] <meowsus> mazda01, right on, thanks man
[03:04] <RyuGuns> How do I use compiz effects on ubuntu 11.10 with unity?
[03:05] <RyuGuns> I want to get my "cube effect" back. :)
[03:06] <mrdeb> ryu, it has to be done with compiz configure
[03:08] <RyuGuns> mrdeb: Do you mean ccsm? I tried, just makes the interface weird.
[03:08] <meowsus> mazda01, welcome back, daaawg ;)
[03:08]  * meowsus new thing is talking in jive on IRC
[03:10] <sebashtian> i have tried googleing to no avail, in proftpd where are the login records stored? i looked under /var/log/proftpd but it was not there
[03:10] <mazda01> meowsus, lol
[03:11] <spacebug-> sebashtian: /etc/ftpd.passwd for non-system users
[03:11] <spacebug-> oh sorry, login records
[03:11] <sebashtian> thanks
[03:12] <spacebug-> I've got mine in /var/log/proftpd/proftpd.log   accounts are in /etc/ftpd.passwd
[03:14] <badbandit> http://i.imgur.com/D9C1g.png
[03:14] <mazda01> meowsus, would this work? http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/disableenable-auto-mount-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
[03:14] <badbandit> I am getting this bug where that yellow resize rectangle pops up
[03:14] <badbandit> for no reason
[03:14] <badbandit> and wont go away
[03:15] <sebashtian> while i'm here just recently when i highlight text in google chrome and other applications it is blue not the default orange any idea what is causing this/how to fix it?
[03:17] <sebashtian> spacebug would the directory change if i was using gadmin-proftpd?
[03:17] <badbandit> ugh 11.10 is so damn buggy
[03:19] <spacebug-> sebashtian: not sure, but the location is set in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[03:19] <q0_0p> having problems.  ubuntu LTS kernel 2.6.32 mouse works fine, but anything after that kernel mouse will lag when charging battery any reaons why?
[03:19] <meowsus> mazda01, peeking now
[03:20] <mazda01> meowsus, the bad part about that is NO devices will auto-mount anymore.
[03:24] <juamji86> hey im tryng to install ubuntu 11.10  on my laptop but was having problems whit video drivers so i turn on the nomodeset option and it booted but now when im about to install it wont read my hard drive any ideas on how i can fix this
[03:27] <LuckySMack> somsip, yea after purging everything again, touching those files and using --reinstall when installing things one at a time things seemed to work. thanks
[03:29] <somsip> LuckySMack: sounded messy, but good that it got there in the end
[03:29] <q0_0p> having problems.  ubuntu LTS kernel 2.6.32 mouse works fine, but anything after that kernel mouse will lag when charging battery any reaons why?
[03:30] <badbandit> wtf
[03:30] <badbandit> has anyone experience an issue in 11.10 where when you move the mouse to either side of the screen the resize rectangle appears and doesn't go away?
[03:30] <badbandit> http://i.imgur.com/D9C1g.png
[03:32] <meowsus> mazda01, one fatal flaw
[03:33] <meowsus> mazda01, I'm running lxde, not gnome :(
[03:34] <mazda01> meowsus, ok, 1 second
[03:35] <mazda01> anyone in here still on 10.04 and using UbuntuOne?
[03:37] <aeon-ltd> mazda01: ask your real question
[03:38] <mazda01> aeon-ltd, ubuntuone will NOT allow me to add this computer to it. it's running 10.04 and it does NOT open a webpage to add this computer. Any thoughts?
[03:38] <q0_0p> having problems.  ubuntu LTS kernel 2.6.32 mouse works fine, but anything after that kernel mouse will lag when charging battery any reaons why?
[03:38] <meowsus> mazda01, my thoughts are "use dropbox"
[03:39] <meowsus> But no one wants to hear from me ;)
[03:39] <Doonz> lol
[03:39] <mazda01> meowsus, already use dropbox but ubuntuone permits 5GB for free, Dropbox only 2gb
[03:39] <Doonz> i wish google would release their drop box killer
[03:40] <geek7> mazda01: unless you have referrals
[03:40] <meowsus> mazda01, that's why i hustled my friends and grew my acct to 6.5gb
[03:40] <meowsus> But i understand your plight
[03:40] <bandit5432> i feel like i did when upgrading from 6.04 to 6.10 :C
[03:41] <geek7> meowsus: at some point, i installed dropbox on every system in the office...
[03:41] <geek7> and was basically hustling classmates
[03:41]  * meowsus hails to the king, baby
[03:41] <geek7> though apparently you get double the space if you associate a .edu account
[03:42] <bandit5432> any one know how to get kb shorcuts to work?
[03:42] <bandit5432> shortcuts'
[03:42]  * geek7 amusingly has *two* from his school.. so...
[03:42] <JohnTeddy> I have 11.10 installed, and the 11.10 iso on my desktop. How can I format this iso image onto a usb thumb drive?
[03:43] <Doonz> drop box is just tooo exensive
[03:43] <carlosqueso> johnteddy: I used unetbootin
[03:43] <xangua> JohnTeddy: with ubuntu usb creator, unetbootin or just follow ubuntu.com instructions
[03:43] <meowsus> mazda01, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#Does_LXDE_automount_plugged_in_removable_devices_.28USB_drives.2C_Flash_disks.2C_etc.29.3F on the right track...
[03:43] <meowsus> It's HAL, i guess
[03:43] <mazda01> JohnTeddy, don't you have Startup Disk Creator in system>ADmin
[03:44] <bandit5432> i thought hal was dead
[03:44] <mazda01> me too
[03:44] <MagBo> Jordan_U: dd worked as charm. as I had no time to write that modprobing script for some of mainstream vgas, I've just dd'ed ubuntu image to the drive
[03:44] <causative> I like how Unity looks but it's less usable
[03:44] <meowsus> Wait... hal isn't even on my computer
[03:45]  * meowsus head explodes
[03:45] <mazda01> meowsus, how are you using LXDE? was it a premade iso named lubuntu?
[03:45] <meowsus> Ye-yar
[03:45] <MagBo> Jordan_U: I have one last question - is it possible to 1) not show that "Install ubuntu/Try it" menu?
[03:45] <Mario_> Hi, can I use sometimes apt and sometimes the software center or I must use only one? both manage dependencies all right?
[03:45] <bandit5432> ddrescue is better imho
[03:45] <meowsus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[03:46] <meowsus> It's actually pretty killer
[03:46] <meowsus> Like it more than XFCE for sure
[03:46] <carlosqueso> Mario_ they all do the same thing...go ahead
[03:46] <carlosqueso> meowsus: I second that!
[03:46] <MagBo> Jordan_U: once the image is dd'ed. And the other question - is it possible to have my dotfiles in /home/ubuntu at the USB flash?
[03:46] <Mario_> thank you.
[03:46] <mazda01> meowsus, yeah, i played with LXDE a little bit
[03:46] <mazda01> meowsus, installed it onto my ubuntu install
[03:46]  * meowsus gives carlosqueso a huge-trout hi-five
[03:46] <corey_> anyway to remote shutdown a pc on your local internet with ubuntu?
[03:46] <meowsus> mazda01, its easily configurable, for sure
[03:47] <carlosqueso> *gives meowsus the secret LXDE handshake
[03:47] <meowsus> I've got #! on my netbook and Ubuntu running gnome-shell on my "production laptop"
[03:47] <mazda01> meowsus, i think you want to look into lxsession
[03:47] <meowsus> on it
[03:47] <bandit5432> any one know when we can get working acpi support on laptops and back lighting ?
[03:47] <carlosqueso> corey_ is it a linux pc?
[03:48] <carlosqueso> the one you want to shut down that is
[03:48] <Guest63797> im using  a linux pc i want to shutdown a windows pc
[03:48] <carlosqueso> hmmmm....dunno then
[03:48] <SushiDude> I have not used ubuntu as my main desktop in years, I have a few questions. A. I would think Ubuntu comes with a firewall up and running because there is nothing to configure it installed by default. B. Is there SELinux enabled and enforcing by default, is there something else ubuntu uses?
[03:49] <Mario_> Guest63797 install vnc in both.
[03:49] <mazda01> SushiDude, there is no firewall by default because there are NO SERVICES running by default. Not sure about question B
[03:49] <bandit5432> any one formated and reinstalled lts?
[03:50] <xangua> !firewall | SushiDude
[03:50] <SushiDude> ubottu, but is the firewall on?
[03:50] <xangua> no, it't not
[03:51] <bandit5432> how do you easily change users group accounts on 11.10? trick question install k user :|
[03:51] <SushiDude> Also why does Ubuntu default not ofter encrypted LVMs
[03:51] <researcher123> Please help on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/729969/  I cant update
[03:51] <SushiDude> and why does it default to using MBR and not GUID?
[03:51] <bandit5432> because most people dont know what guid is and if you do then you can do it yourself ?
[03:52] <bandit5432> researcher123, open up update manager and under repos uncheck ubuntu extra
[03:52] <xangua> !pgperr | researcher123
[03:52] <xangua> !gpgerr
[03:52] <mazda01> meowsus, what file manager does it use?
[03:53] <researcher123> bandit5432: ok.let me report result
[03:53] <meowsus> pcmanfm, which i don't like particularly, but since the switch I'm in a big push to be less gui-reliant
[03:53] <meowsus> It's like i graduated from training wheels, guys!
[03:53] <MagBo> haha silly question - in your pac manager there is something like a full text search on both package names and descriptions?
[03:54] <meowsus> mazda01, pcmanfm is the name of the filemanager... not a user in this channel
[03:55] <mazda01> meowsus, i know
[03:55] <researcher123> bandit5432: where is it to be found
[03:55] <qin> meowsus: vifm
[03:55] <bandit5432> researcher123, open dash and search for update manager
[03:55] <SushiDude> Like fedora there should be a option for an Encrypted LVM using GUID when you install.. because encrypting just the home folder and lead to a lot more exploits because you edit the kernel and other system binaries because they are not encrypted.
[03:56] <mazda01> meowsus, it's funny, everything i am reading people are actually having the opposite issue, it's not automounting usb devices. LOOL
[03:56] <lighta> oh talking about manager, I used to had "open a terminal here" in my old one, how could I put it back ?, (was thunar)
[03:56] <researcher123> bandit5432: I am quite new
[03:56] <meowsus> qin, que?
[03:56] <researcher123> !dash
[03:56] <meowsus> mazda01, me too, man
[03:56] <meowsus> It's drivin me bo-nanzas
[03:57] <bandit5432> researcher123, is ok you can also open ubuntu software center click edit software sources
[03:57] <qin> meowsus: less gui-relant file manager... or, please, disregard.
[03:57] <SushiDude> It is these security things that ubuntu is laking that make me hesitant to run ubuntu at all =\
[03:57] <researcher123> bandit5432: ok.that I can do
[03:57] <meowsus> qin, oooh! Looking into it now!
[03:57] <MagBo> guys? how to search with apt?
[03:57] <meowsus> Ahhh, this might be a project in the future
[03:57] <researcher123> bandit5432: once I am in Software Sources what do i do
[03:58] <bandit5432> researcher123, click on the other tab
[03:58] <SushiDude> It is a big distro and I would hate to seem them be doing such a critical thing wrong..
[03:58] <meowsus> I'm still not 100% of vim
[03:58] <xangua> MagBo: apt-cache search , apt-get help
[03:58] <meowsus> (though teaching myself these days)
[03:59] <researcher123> bandit5432: done
[03:59] <bandit5432> researcher123, cool
[03:59] <meowsus> Well, i'm going to stop fretting about this and listen to more Holst. Goodnight yall, and remember: http://weknowmemes.com/2011/10/hello-yes-this-is-dog/
[03:59] <mazda01> meowsus, are there any preferences within PCManFM?
[03:59] <researcher123> bandit5432: I clicked Otgher Software tab.what next
[03:59] <meowsus> mazda01, yes
[03:59] <bandit5432> click ok
[04:00] <bandit5432> researcher123, and then try and update
[04:00] <SushiDude> Is there anyone I can talk to to help get these things sorted out?
[04:00] <meowsus> mazda01, you can use it. The desktops a bit weird. I don't like it as much as Nautilis but it's not terrible
[04:00] <meowsus> by any stretch
[04:00] <xangua> SushiDude: go and file a launchpad bug/request
[04:00] <meowsus> Just... clunkier.
[04:00] <bandit5432> researcher123, click close then update
[04:00] <SushiDude> xangua, okay
[04:00] <mazda01> meowsus, there's no setting about external media mounting?
[04:00] <SushiDude> xangua, thank you
[04:00] <meowsus> Try Lubunu... or just straight Debian... it's fun. My computer is rediculously fast.
[04:00] <XXUN> kd
[04:00] <MagBo> xangua: apt-cache search htop <- fails to find anything :(
[04:01] <meowsus> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:01] <XXUN> 有中国人没
[04:01] <sivanov> is it possible easily convert existing ubuntu HDD to software mirror?
[04:01] <causative> software mirror?
[04:01] <xangua> htop - interactive processes viewer MagBo, well i am on lucid by the way
[04:01] <xangua> !info | htop
[04:01] <sivanov> *software raid
[04:01] <mazda01> meowsus, and you don't have a gconf-editor?
[04:01] <xangua> !info htop | MagBo
[04:01] <somsip> !zh | XXUN
[04:01] <researcher123> bandit5432: failed
[04:02] <XXUN> thanks
[04:02] <carlosqueso> MadDo, try sudo apt-get update and try again
[04:02] <researcher123> bandit5432: how do I know what versin of ubuntu Im using
[04:02] <Bpendragon> I have a question. Does anyone know how to run Eclipse (the Java IDE) in Ubuntu?
[04:02] <researcher123> !version
[04:02] <xangua> researcher123: lsb_release -a
[04:02] <bandit5432> researcher123, what was the fail message?
[04:03] <meowsus> mazda01, definitely the right track
[04:03] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon: you should just be able to install it through software center and run it from the menu
[04:03] <meowsus> More tomorrow, and thanks!
[04:04] <D_Russ> is anyone else having a problem with wobbly windows sticking when using multiple desktops/workspaces?
[04:04] <researcher123> bandit5432: http://paste.ubuntu.com/729969/
[04:04] <causative> Unity's lack of applets is a fatal flaw
[04:04] <bandit5432> researcher123, you still have the extras rep selected
[04:05] <bandit5432> researcher123, you unchecked or removed extras?
[04:05] <cntb> latest update changes a lot of gnome and other software, makes it difficult to decide
[04:05] <causative> it looks nicer but it's not better, except perhaps for the dash
[04:05] <mazda01> meowsus and you said you don't have an /etc/hal/ folder?
[04:05] <Bpendragon> carlosqueso: thanks, I was trying to download and install it from the web. I just switched to Linux a week or so ago and am just learning the ropes.
[04:05] <cntb> now on natty
[04:05] <researcher123> bandit5432: I dont know how to unselect that
[04:05] <causative> the launcher on the left in unity is actually a great feature but since it has no applets I don't like it...
[04:05] <bandit5432> researcher123, you go into software sources like before
[04:05] <causative> I want my weather applets and my system monitor applet
[04:06] <urlin2u> causative, its as if you think we care
[04:06] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon, welcome to linux!  Your first bet for any software is to search the software center (or Synaptic).  You'll be surprised at how much is there!
[04:06] <researcher123> I am on oneric 11.10
[04:06] <D_Russ> people complain too much about unity when almost everything that is complained about can be changed.
[04:06] <xangua> causative: there is a weather and system monitor indicator
[04:06] <bandit5432> researcher123, ok then open ubuntu software center and click edit software sources
[04:06] <mazda01> meowsus, it says on the LXDE faq page this: Yes, it does. It mounts devices from /etc/fstab automatically, others - removable drives and such - get mounted through HAL software.
[04:06] <researcher123> bandit5432: when I go to software sources I dnt know how to unslect as u suggested
[04:06] <causative> yeah xangua but the system monitor isn't as nice... it doesn't show the little graphs
[04:06] <causative> it just shows a number
[04:06] <Bpendragon> carlosqueso: I'll keep that in mind. I'm going to stay in here till I'm sure it installed properly, then I'll skeddadle.
[04:07] <bandit5432> researcher123, do you find the xtras repo in the list there?
[04:07] <cntb> researcher123, can you tell how are the changes
[04:07] <D_Russ> is anyone else having a problem with wobbly windows sticking when using multiple desktops/workspaces?
[04:07] <SushiDude> xangua, I am at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ and signed in but I can't seem to find the report button =\
[04:07] <jrodger> can someone give me a quick rundown on how to download/install a Realtek Ethernet Card driver rtl8169. Shows up under lspci but doesn't seem to run the driver. Thansk people
[04:07] <SushiDude> eww realtek
[04:08] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon...let me know if you need help
[04:08] <Mario_> Silly question can I upgrade a ubuntu installation in a flash drive? or the permanence file is just for new documents?
[04:08] <researcher123> bandit5432: there are tabs link Other software, updates, ubuntu software etc
[04:08] <urlin2u> Mario_, persistance you mean?
[04:08] <MagBo> agrh. in gnome3 there isn't gconf-editor avaliable?
[04:08] <bandit5432> researcher123, click on other software tab and scroll tilll you find extras
[04:08] <Mario_> urlin2u yes.
[04:09] <bandit5432> MagBo, yes and extra dconf editor as well
[04:09] <MagBo> bandit5432: *sadface*
[04:09] <D_Russ> is anyone else having a problem with wobbly windows sticking when using multiple desktops/workspaces?
[04:09] <bandit5432> MagBo, why the sad face?
[04:09] <urlin2u> Mario_, what you have is the original iso and whatever updates you have done and saved stuff in the persistence you can't realy upgrade that.
[04:10] <bandit5432> researcher123, you still there?
[04:10] <MagBo> bandit5432: my question was "isn't" avaliable, not "is gconf-editor avaliable"
[04:10] <researcher123> bandit5432: extra not seen
[04:11] <Mario_> thnak you urlin2u how does the presistence work, is it mapped to /home?
[04:11] <urlin2u> Mario_, if you had say a 8 gig usb or bigger and a full install and the space you could upgrade disto's ten.
[04:11] <bandit5432> MagBo, there is available gconf-editor and a new dconf-ediotr aas well
[04:11] <bandit5432> editor'
[04:11] <MagBo> bandit5432: so if yes, then how do I find a package where they are? cause, you know, I kind of read man apt-get and didn't find anything about fulltext searches on the package database
[04:11] <urlin2u> Mario_, it is a file in home that actually gets full and can't be emptiedbasically.
[04:12] <bandit5432> researcher123, look for one that says idependent
[04:12] <Mario_> urlin2u ok, I have the iso, it is not installed in the pendrive, ok I get it. thanks.
[04:12] <researcher123> bandit5432: got Independent
[04:12] <bandit5432> researcher123, uncheck both of them
[04:13] <researcher123> bandit5432: did
[04:13] <urlin2u> Mario_, no problem you can actually make the persistance larger though by having it as a partition rather then a file if you have the room, it is called casper-rw
[04:13] <bandit5432> MagBo, apt-get install gconf-editor dconf-tools
[04:13] <bandit5432> researcher123, then try to update again
[04:14] <researcher123> bandit5432: done
[04:14] <bandit5432> researcher123, no errors?
[04:14] <researcher123> bandit5432: no errors
[04:14] <bandit5432> researcher123, yay!!
[04:14] <researcher123> bandit5432: u r great in helping until the issue is sortd out
[04:14] <bandit5432> researcher123, no problem
[04:15] <researcher123> bandit5432: thanks a lot. May you enjoy all the health, wealth, peace and joy
[04:15] <bandit5432> researcher123, and you as well
[04:15] <bandit5432> MagBo, did that answer your question?
[04:17] <bandit5432> jrodger, did you get the real tech working?
[04:18] <MagBo> bandit5432: unable to locate package :)
[04:19] <MagBo> bandit5432: apt-get install vim works though
[04:19] <Bpendragon> carlosqueso: got it installed, I need to install a specific .jar file, where do I put it on the computer?
[04:19] <bandit5432> MagBo, did you enable the multiverse and universe repos?
[04:19] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon, if you installed it through the software center, it should be in your menus and ready to go
[04:19] <MagBo> bandit5432: ah, okay, seems that I didn't
[04:20] <yoga> my laptop cannot not hibernat correctly.
[04:20] <yoga> it won't turn off the laptop, when I choose hibernate
[04:21] <yoga> also when it boot up, the screen is very very dark, but still boot.
[04:21] <urlin2u> yoga, your swap equal to ram or larger?
[04:21] <Bpendragon> carlosqueso: it's not available through the software center. Any ideas?
[04:21] <yoga> swap > ram
[04:22] <yoga> urlin2u:
[04:22] <urlin2u> yoga, less than, has to be at least equal
[04:22] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon...sure, open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install eclipse"
[04:22] <carlosqueso> without the quotes of course
[04:22] <dluzius> I just installed 11.10 on my toshiba L-655, but have no battery indicator
[04:23] <urlin2u> yoga, sorry I was distracted greater then not sure than.
[04:23] <dluzius> it does show up in W7
[04:23] <urlin2u> dluzius, you see the wifi icon the sound ...etc?
[04:24] <Bpendragon> wait... I'm past that. I have eclipse up and running. But I need to get a specific  .jar file available. On windows and mac there's a specific folder you place it in, I was wondering if the same was true for ubuntu, and if so, where
[04:24] <dluzius> yes
[04:24] <linuxnut> What is a bad load average
[04:24] <yoga> but, I can boot with recover from the boot menu, then it will prompt me to another boot menu, and then I choose resume normal boot, it boot ok with the screen bright.
[04:24] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon...I'm not sure...what are you trying to do with the jar file?
[04:24] <urlin2u> dluzius, you were on earlier right? have you done anything that might be a cause?
[04:25] <Bpendragon> I need it to be able to use the classes in it, for a class on introductory Java I'm in
[04:25] <dluzius> I was on earlir but gon't think I've done anything to cause this
[04:26] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon...you can do that from within eclipse IIRC
[04:26] <carlosqueso> let me fire it up and check
[04:26] <urlin2u> dluzius, you might run unity --reset to see if that does it this command just sets unity to stock.
[04:26] <bandit5432> MagBo, did you get it working?
[04:27] <dluzius> sorry, what is unity --reset
[04:27] <bandit5432> any one know how to reliably turn a monitor off including the backlight?
[04:27] <MagBo> bandit5432: I did
[04:28] <bandit5432> MagBo, ok good
[04:28] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon, you shoudl be able to save the file to your home directory or your desktop, then import it using File -> Import in eclipse
[04:28] <urlin2u> dluzius, I exsplained it in that post.
[04:28] <Bpendragon> ok
[04:29] <dluzius> what post are you referring to
[04:29] <MagBo> bandit5432: xset dpms force off IIRC
[04:29] <bandit5432> i can have back light off and screen off and no way to get it back on or screen blank and backlight on
[04:29] <bandit5432> MagBo, does not turn the backlight off sadly
[04:29] <urlin2u> dluzius, it sets unity as if just installed worth a try if you have changed nothing might fix it never know.
[04:29] <soreau> bandit5432: IIRC wasn't part of the command btw
[04:29] <MagBo> bandit5432: xbacklight -set 0 IIRC
[04:29] <linuxnut> How can i prevent a SlowLoris attack i'm running apache2 on Ubuntu server
[04:29] <MagBo> linuxnut: mwahhhahahahahaaa
[04:30] <urlin2u> dluzius, this one are you really that slow. you might run unity --reset to see if that does it this command just sets unity to stock. :D
[04:30] <bandit5432> urlin2u, ouch a little harsh :P
[04:30] <dluzius> how do I do this unity --reset
[04:30] <MagBo> linuxnut: if you have listened to RSnake talking at blackhat con (?) closely enough, he DID mentioned ways to do that
[04:30] <Anonymousmario> Ubuntu is awesome :D
[04:31] <MagBo> linuxnut: ayway, your question is a bit off the topic here
[04:31] <urlin2u> bandit5432, notice the smiley it is a joke.
[04:31] <bandit5432> dluzius, ctrl+alt+t and then type unity --reset
[04:31] <MagBo> Anonymousmario: I wish they had an option to make a tiny installation with that awesome gnome3 thing. I mean why does linux weght 4GB when installed?
[04:31] <dluzius> ahhhh, ok, and sorry I'm so slow
[04:32] <Bpendragon> carlosqueso: ok, I've got it, thanks.
[04:32] <carlosqueso> Bpendragon..no problem!
[04:32] <bandit5432> dluzius,  we all have to start some where
[04:32] <kostasa> hi
[04:32] <canis> canis
[04:32] <bandit5432> MagBo, xbacklight does not work
[04:32] <bandit5432> MagBo, i can get the backlight off with sudo vbetool dpsm off
[04:32] <kostasa> can anyone tell me if can connect to kostasa89.dyndns.org:8080
[04:33] <bandit5432> but you then have to type it back on with no screen
[04:33] <kostasa> please let me know
[04:33] <MagBo> bandit5432: well, use xbindkeys to bind the script on a keycombo
[04:33] <bandit5432> MagBo, i did that and cant get it to reliably come back on
[04:34] <linuxnut> I cant seem to find a way to prevent the attack, i can execute the attack but not prevent it : |
[04:34] <bandit5432> MagBo, i even used 2 diffrent keys and added vbetools to sudoers so i dont need a pass
[04:34] <yoga> I install Ubuntu-desktop on top of Kubunto, when I change from Kdm to Lightdm, but still see the Kubuntu when booting, how do I switch to boot with Ubuntu?
[04:34] <MagBo> bandit5432: and still no reliability?
[04:34] <MagBo> linuxnut: you are soo out of topic man
[04:34] <bandit5432> yoga, click on the cog-wheel next to login box
[04:34] <urlin2u> yoga, at login the little.
[04:35] <MagBo> linuxnut: medicore ubuntu user doesn't know what's slowloris tbh :D
[04:35] <jrodger> bandit4532: No luck yet, the site manager has stuck the cd in and we will try and recompile the driver and insmod it
[04:35] <bandit5432> MagBo, no it seems this bug has been around since 2005 or around
[04:35] <MagBo> haha
[04:35] <MagBo> love that kind of bugs
[04:35] <soreau> How can I get rid of the mail icon in indicator applet for 11.04 gnome-panel?
[04:35] <bandit5432> jrodger, i thought that card worked out of the bag
[04:35] <linuxnut> media
[04:35] <linuxnut> oops typo
[04:36] <bandit5432> soreau, sudo aptitude remove indicator-messages
[04:36] <yoga> bandit5432: I can switch between Kubuntu-deskop and Ubuntu-desktop, but my system is still an Kubuntu, I want to change it to Ubuntu
[04:36] <bandit5432> soreau, or sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages
[04:36] <jrodger> bandir5432: kernel 2.6~ is being used as a firewall, will let you know how we go with the insmod process
[04:37] <neobyte> hey guys, I'm having a weird issue with ubuntu
[04:37] <soreau> bandit5432: Cool thanks
[04:37] <soreau> bandit5432: I didn't understand why it's still there even when no evo* processes are running
[04:37] <neobyte> It's giving me a "No such file or directory" error on I file I know exists
[04:38] <bandit5432> soreau, i dunno its annoying you can try sudo apt-get remove evolution-indicator and then you have to restart the menu
[04:38] <neobyte> I mean, if I do an ls, it's there
[04:38] <neobyte> but when I try to run it, I get that error
[04:38] <soreau> bandit5432: ok
[04:38] <bandit5432> soreau, type in a terminal killall gnome-panel
[04:38] <bandit5432> soreau, type in a terminal 'killall gnome-panel'
[04:38] <soreau> bandit5432: Yea, I know how to restart the panel
[04:39] <soreau> bandit5432: I had to restart it after removing indicator-messages to get rid of the mail icon
[04:39] <bandit5432> soreau, you are ahead of me then i had to google it last time i removed the indicator
[04:40] <bandit5432> MagBo, the bug is around since 2005 and about 100 more just like it wish they would fix it :|
[04:40] <jrodger> bandit5432: kernel 2.6~ is being used as a firewall, will let you know how we go with the insmod process
[04:40] <bandit5432> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/41994
[04:40] <soreau> bandit5432: FWIW, removing evolution-indicator alone didn't help. indicator-messages has to be removed for it not to display
[04:41] <bandit5432> jrodger, that might be fun to get to work no other card you can use?
[04:41] <bandit5432> soreau, ahh ok i hated that little icon i know that
[04:41] <jasonmchristos> can anyone read me ?
[04:41] <jasonmchristos> test
[04:41] <bandit5432> jasonmchristos, working
[04:42] <urlin2u> jasonmchristos,  nope
[04:42] <jasonmchristos> bandit5432: ty
[04:42] <soreau> bandit5432: Yea it sucks because not everyone us it and you can't just click on it to remove it
[04:42] <urlin2u> :D
[04:42] <bandit5432> urlin2u, fix my power issue!!
[04:42] <soreau> I would really like to know why it's so difficult to write an intuitive point-n-click panel
[04:42] <soreau> gnome-panel in older versions of gnome2 was great
[04:43] <bandit5432> soreau, its that way by design!!
[04:43] <jasonmchristos> i'm trying out this znc deal
[04:43] <soreau> but instead of getting better, it's just regressed repeatedly until now
[04:43] <bandit5432> mooo mooo mooo
[04:43] <urlin2u> bandit5432, I don't know it seems your hegemony cup runith over. :D
[04:43] <bandit5432> big works uhoh
[04:44] <soreau> The unity team should have just put their ego's aside and wrote a regular panel that is superior to all. Instead, they wrote unity
[04:44] <bandit5432> soreau, i know i am still trying to get lxde or xfce to work for me
[04:44] <soreau> bandit5432: What doesn't work about those two DE's?
[04:44] <bandit5432> soreau, gnome-shell is no better
[04:44] <soreau> I didn't say it was
[04:44] <bandit5432> soreau, little things i am still trying to stick with gnome 3 fallback
[04:45] <bandit5432> this power bug is about ready to make me scream
[04:45] <bandit5432> of course you can read about it across almost all the distros
[04:46] <bandit5432> and no one had a reliable fix :|
[04:46] <soreau> bandit5432: Best is compiz from upstream since it doesn't have all the bugs ubuntu introduced
[04:46] <bandit5432> soreau, i tend to turn all composite off
[04:47] <soreau> bandit5432: Well you tend to suck ;)
[04:47] <bandit5432> soreau, i want stable and i dont like flashy
[04:47] <soreau> bandit5432: Like I said, compiz from upstream without the ubuntu bugs
[04:47] <bandit5432> soreau, but i want new apps so i keep going with new releases
[04:48] <soreau> but if you don't like flashy, I guess that makes you.. not attracted to women either
[04:48] <bandit5432> soreau, compiz adds what to my work flow?
[04:48] <Achillion> Something weird happened and I don't know how to explain or handle it. After a disk check (e2fsck) on my large backup drive, within the lost+found directory are two directories which link to my home directory on another disk. They don't show up as symlinks and when I cd to them, I am in my home directory. "file" shows them as setgid directories. Are they safe to remove?
[04:48] <soreau> bandit5432: Tons. You have to learn how to use it
[04:48] <urlin2u> this is what I feel about natty to precise bandit5432 soreau http://imagebin.org/182906
[04:49] <soreau> urlin2u: No one cares what you think ;)
[04:49] <bandit5432> soreau, that adds to productivity? i dooubt it
[04:49] <urlin2u> soreau, thats the nicest thing anyone has said to me thank you. ;D
[04:49] <bandit5432> and what does a rotating cube help me accomplish ??
[04:50] <soreau> bandit5432: To each their own. I personally find I cannot function fluently without it
[04:50] <urlin2u> bandit5432, it just means that all the DE are actually easy to manipulate, it is not done the same way.
[04:50] <soreau> bandit5432: Also it has exoom and locks the driver to vsync which is added bonuses
[04:50] <soreau> ezoom*
[04:50] <bandit5432> soreau, i tried it for a couple years then was like meh
[04:51] <soreau> bandit5432: I guess you never learned how to configure it
[04:51] <Lockandload> Anyone available to help a noobie
[04:51] <bandit5432> soreau, again configure it for what? what does it actually help you do?
[04:51] <soreau> ! ask | Lockandload
[04:52] <Lockandload> Unable to log into a channel #dd-wrt
[04:52] <Alkon> hello everybody, i have to solve a problem with a missing codec, someone knows of that?
[04:52] <bandit5432> Alkon,  mediabuntu
[04:52] <soreau> bandit5432: It helps me manage my windows in the easiest possible manner
[04:52] <dr_willis> !register | Lockandload
[04:52] <bandit5432> soreau, so does unity ask mark
[04:52] <bandit5432> :P
[04:52] <CarlFK> soreau: yeah know what's not productive?  trying to teach someone productivity :)
[04:52] <soreau> bandit5432: Unity blows chunks
[04:53] <dr_willis> Lockandload:  regigtered nicks only most likely.
[04:53] <soreau> CarlFK: I think you are right
[04:53] <bandit5432> i think CarlFK is correct as well
[04:53] <bandit5432> thats what i dont like about kde users they seem right alot
[04:53] <soreau> If you don't know how to recognize processes that you're able to utilize for enhanced productivity, you may never get it
[04:54] <Lockandload> tried registering a nick to Chanserv, said I wasn't logged in the channel
[04:54] <soreau> Stuck in a rut, wanting the same old same old
[04:54] <Alkon> bandit5432: what you mean with mediabuntu?
[04:54] <bandit5432> Alkon, what codec is it?
[04:54] <CarlFK> Lockandload: you reg with NickServ
[04:54] <Lockandload> tried too
[04:55] <CarlFK> Lockandload: at least I think.. best to ask in #freenode
[04:55] <bandit5432> Alkon,  see http://www.medibuntu.org/
[04:55] <Alkon> libavcodec.so.52 i want to know if was eliminated in update 11.10, and if yes how to install it again
[04:55] <Lockandload> didn't see anything on my email
[04:55] <Lockandload> ok.. thanks very much fellas
[04:55] <bandit5432> soreau, you are correct i like things the same way i guess that makes me and linus unproductive
[04:56] <K-Rich> bye all
[04:56]  * dr_willis is not productive
[04:56] <soreau> bandit5432: No, you are nothing like linus
[04:56] <bandit5432> i know i am not but it still fits ;)
[04:56] <soreau> Doesn't have anything to do with belittling yourself by comparing yourself to such profound greatness
[04:57] <bandit5432> topic changer
[04:58] <bandit5432> i like how the new update for nautilus-actions needs to install ksh
[05:00] <bandit5432> where did soreau go i was just getting started
[05:00] <Guest68433> a lot of my apps don't show up in gnome-shell like synaptic and other system tools how do i fix that?
[05:00] <soreau> bandit5432: Just stick to what you know and keep helping people
[05:01] <bandit5432> soreau,  but i came here for help for me!!!
[05:01] <soreau> bandit5432: What's the problem?
[05:01] <bandit5432> reliable way to get the backlight to go off and come back on
[05:01] <EvilResistance> is it possible to blacklist a package, thereby preventing that program from ever being installed?
[05:02] <bandit5432> xset dpms force off blanks does not turn backlight off
[05:02] <pradeep_> hello\
[05:02] <bandit5432> EvilResistance, just remove it and dont install it
[05:02] <soreau> bandit5432: Could be a driver issue. Which are you using?
[05:02] <EvilResistance> bandit5432:  not my system.  my employer wants a certian package blacklisted
[05:03] <bandit5432> soreau, nvidia current 285.05.09 and this bug has been around since at least 2005
[05:03] <soreau> EvilResistance: You can lock to a certain version
[05:04] <soreau> EvilResistance: Otherwise the system administrator would just have to ensure it's never installed
[05:04] <soreau> bandit5432: Try #nvidia or perhaps nouveau
[05:04] <bandit5432> good idea
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> EvilResistance: Only root can install anything, so as long as root doesn't install it, it doesn't get installed.  Simple.
[05:05] <jrodger> bandit5432: no other card we can use (firewall is remote from here) also they have removed make and the ability to download from ubuntu sources, so yes, the will be a trial.
[05:05] <bandit5432> EvilResistance, try http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2009-07/msg00479.html
[05:06] <bandit5432> jrodger, thats nasty
[05:06] <bandit5432> although for a firewall its understandable
[05:06] <bandit5432> why did it stop working?
[05:08] <Abhijit> does gnoem3 has inbuilt camera - photo taking applicatioon?
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Abhijit: still Cheese, like before
[05:08] <scratchingmyhead> is there a program to erase the memory besides bleachbit?
[05:08] <bandit5432> erase what memory?
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> scratchingmyhead: define "erase the memory"?
[05:09] <Abhijit> tonyyarusso, ok. installing it.
[05:09] <scratchingmyhead> ram
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> Abhijit: eh?  Isn't it installed by default?
[05:09] <bandit5432> ram sure let me look
[05:09] <scratchingmyhead> I have 4 gigs ram and the sys is still slow
[05:09] <fishhead> I found this room for chating about ubuntu here check it out http://linuxdistroteamspeakcommunity.blogspot.com/
[05:09] <Abhijit> tonyyarusso, nope
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> scratchingmyhead: Um, RAM is cleared every time you turn the system off.  There's no reason to "erase" it.
[05:10] <scratchingmyhead> hhummm why is my sys so slow with so much ram??
[05:10] <scratchingmyhead> I clear the crap regularly
[05:10] <scratchingmyhead> in the browser
[05:10] <bandit5432> scratchingmyhead, you have swap turned on? and what is running slow exactly?
[05:10] <scratchingmyhead> swap?  the internet
[05:10] <fishhead> guys check this out here http://linuxdistroteamspeakcommunity.blogspot.com/
[05:11] <soreau> scratchingmyhead: more ram doesn't make your processor faster. Check the output of 'top' to see if anything is using a lot of resources
[05:11] <bandit5432> scratchingmyhead, do you share the internet connection with any one else?
[05:12] <scratchingmyhead> no and I dont know how to read top
[05:12] <soreau> scratchingmyhead: Look at the %cpu and %ram usage and see which one is using the most
[05:12] <scratchingmyhead> %mem  all under 1.0
[05:13] <scratchingmyhead> on top it says "2users"  I am the only user
[05:13] <soreau> scratchingmyhead: What is slow exactly?
[05:13] <scratchingmyhead> unless it is counting root and me both as users
[05:13] <bandit5432> scratchingmyhead, you can read here about clearing your ram http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/134/linux-how-to-clear-the-cache-from-memory/
[05:13] <soreau> scratchingmyhead: yes, root is a user
[05:14] <bandit5432> or http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_drop_caches.html
[05:14] <scratchingmyhead> but Im not sighed in as root
[05:15] <soreau> scratchingmyhead: What speed is your cpu? 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' should tell you specific info
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> You're signed in as yourself twice.
[05:15] <urlin2u> scratchingmyhead, who ion the terminal will tell you the users
[05:15] <urlin2u> in*
[05:15] <bandit5432> who who who are you
[05:15] <soreau> bandit5432: quit blowing smoke in here
[05:16] <scratchingmyhead> 2.00g
[05:16] <bandit5432> sorry i dont understand
[05:16] <ne7work> Hello all, I have installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my old PC from yesterday and it's on 100% cpu usage nad use 1000/1000 memory.. what can I do?
[05:16] <ne7work> Or I need to install older version of Ubuntu like 10.04?
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> ne7work: How old are we talking?  What specs?
[05:16] <dr_willis> older dosent always mean uses less resources
[05:16] <soreau> ne7work: Try to find the problem. Does it make a difference if you logout and select Ubuntu2D?
[05:16] <_ahabthearab> 486 old? :p
[05:17] <ne7work> AMD Sempron 3000+ 2x512 MB ram DDR2 800 MHz
[05:17] <scratchingmyhead> soreau 2.00ghz  and 800.cpu mghz
[05:17] <soreau> scratchingmyhead: what?
[05:17] <scratchingmyhead> Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU      T2450  @ 2.00GHz
[05:18] <ne7work> tonyyarusso AMD Sempron 3000+ 2x512 MB ram DDR2 800 MHz
[05:18] <soreau> scratchingmyhead: Which version of ubuntu?
[05:18] <dr_willis> ne7work:  lubuntu or xubuntu are better for low end machines. but thats not too bad a box
[05:18] <scratchingmyhead> zorin 5
[05:18] <scratchingmyhead> the latest   ubuntu dirivitive
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> ne7work: Yeah, I'd think you should be okay.  Trying the 2D login might help.  Anything obvious in top?
[05:19] <ne7work> tonyyarusso it's not better to install 10.04/
[05:19] <electricalan> is this channel appropriate to bitch about 11.10 or should I join a different channel
[05:19] <ne7work> tonyyarusso it's not better to install 10.04?*
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> ne7work: Not if that's not the problem.
[05:19] <urlin2u> electricalan, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:19] <dr_willis> electricalan:  this is support..
[05:19] <ne7work> tonyyarusso how to try 2d login?
[05:19] <dr_willis> and bitching wont help. ;)
[05:19] <soreau> ! nounity | ne7work
[05:19] <electricalan> k
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> ne7work: It's under the session selection on the login screen.
[05:20] <electricalan> well I sort of want some support too
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> electricalan: also, watch the language
[05:20] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[05:20] <electricalan> I want to complain and then figure out how to get stuff working how i liek it
[05:20] <Alkon> hello, i've got this problem when trying to open a game: ultrastardx: error while loading shared libraries: libavcodec.so.52: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. somebody can help?
[05:21] <soreau> electricalan: Vent in #ubuntu-offtopic and ask real support questions here
[05:21] <dr_willis> electricalan:  skip the complaining.. i bet we have allready heard it all befor... move on to tweaking how you like
[05:21] <bandit5432> Alkon,  i would install the mediabuntu repos
[05:21] <ne7work> tonyyarusso but If I install 10.04 I'll don't have problems?
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> ne7work: what?
[05:21] <bandit5432> Alkon, see http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[05:22] <ne7work> tonyyarusso I can install 10.04 for better performance on my low machine right?
[05:22] <Alkon> bandit5432: i already did it but theres no package with that name
[05:22] <bandit5432> ne7work, yes
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> ne7work: What makes you think 10.04 will have better performance?
[05:22] <bandit5432> Alkon,  install libavcodec-extra-53
[05:23] <bandit5432> tonyyarusso, you trying to get us to believe that 11.10 has better performance than 10.04?
[05:23] <Alkon> bandit5432: i'll try with that
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> bandit5432: No, I'm trying to get someone to find their problem before going on wild goose chases.
[05:24] <ne7work> Because 10.04 doesn't use gnome 3 etc..
[05:24] <bandit5432> tonyyarusso, that makes sense
[05:25] <Alkon> bandit5432: again the same problem
[05:26] <bandit5432> Alkon,  let  me look
[05:28] <Alkon> bandit5432: i think that the problem is not with the codec, i have this problem since the release update
[05:29] <bandit5432> Alkon, no its a linking problem or a version number
[05:29] <Alkon> bandit5432: what can i do?
[05:30] <bandit5432> Alkon, looking
[05:30] <electricalan> before I updated to 11.10 I had some icons on the toolbar at the top of my screen, I liked those, now they aren't there anymore
[05:30] <electricalan> can someone tell me how to change my workspace switcher to 9 workspaces instead of 4?
[05:31] <bandit5432> Alkon, did you install the package ultrastar-ng  ?
[05:31] <impec> What is up with proxy servers and IRC. Can no one use a proxy server to connect to an IRC server?
[05:32] <Alkon> bandit5432: no its name is ultrastardx but i dont install a package
[05:33] <bandit5432> Alkon,  how did you install it?
[05:34] <Alkon> bandit5432:  i don't know i follow the instruction in a web
[05:34] <urlin2u> electricalan, you need to follow the same process you did before to have those functions.
[05:36] <histo> !info libavcode
[05:37] <histo> !info lib-avcodec-extra-53 | Alkon
[05:37] <anurag> hi
[05:37] <histo> Alkon: ignore that
[05:37] <histo> !info libavcodec-extra-53 | Alkon
[05:38] <meta-coder> doesnt ubottu say the description of a given package?
[05:38] <anurag> I want to execute a command in a terminal from another terminal ? How to do that
[05:39] <dr_willis> anurag:  like   xterm -e  vi
[05:39] <chuck[screen]> is there a stable realtime kernel for natty?
[05:40] <Lockandload> I was able to get going thanks again guys... Cheers
[05:42] <Lockandload> gNite
[05:43] <Abhijit> how to change the number of workspaces in gnome3?
[05:43] <james182> anyone able to help me get my wireless chipset working in ubuntu?
[05:43] <Abhijit> !wireless | james182
[05:43] <Abhijit> !rt | chuck[screen]
[05:44] <james182> thx. : appreciate it
[05:44] <urlin2u> Abhijit, the work spaces increase as you use them
[05:44] <electricalan> is there any way to get alt tabbing working the same way it did before 11.10?
[05:44] <electricalan> i mean specifically not switching between different workspaces
[05:44] <chuck[screen]> Abhijit: yeah... need that PPA i guess...
[05:44] <Abhijit> urlin2u, and whats the shortcut for workspace switching?
[05:45] <Abhijit> urlin2u, and automatic workspace increase only adds vertical workspace
[05:45] <electricalan> wait, workspaces increase as u use them?
[05:45] <Abhijit> electricalan, yes
[05:45] <urlin2u> Abhijit, not sure is it the alt-tab switcher I don't use gnome that often.
[05:45] <Abhijit> urlin2u, ok
 Thanks for the prompt reply , but that is what I am not looking for . I will make it more precise ...... I have a .sh file which is executing on a terminal, at some point it triggers a a command that will open new terminal ........ I want to execute some command in the newly opened tab
[05:45] <electricalan> can I just set a default of always having 9 workspaces in a square?
[05:45] <bandit5432> Alkon, i dont know i would try Performous
 I tried using gnome-terminal but that didnt work
[05:46] <Alkon> bandit5432: i'll try to reinstall it and then maybe try with that program
[05:46] <electricalan> one of the things I really liked about NN was not having to look at a huge list of applications when I alt tab, jsut the ones from the workspace I was currently using
[05:47] <electricalan> any idea how to get that going again?
[05:47] <bandit5432> Alkon, its not the same program ultrastar has not updated in over a year
[05:47] <electricalan> Abhijit, I'm filling up my workspaces, I don't see them increasing
[05:47] <Abhijit> anurag, typing gnome-terminal in terminal brings another terminal
[05:47] <Abhijit> electricalan, i can see
[05:47] <Abhijit> here
[05:47] <Abhijit> electricalan, we are talking about gnome3
[05:48] <pnorman> Is there a way to see the dependencies of a package in a PPA without adding the PPA?
[05:48] <electricalan> ok
[05:48] <electricalan> what does ubuntu 11.10 use?
[05:48] <najamsa> gnome-terminal -e urprogram should execute the program
[05:49] <Abhijit> electricalan, unity by default
[05:49] <bandit5432> Alkon, you can try and talk to the makers on http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=ultrastardx&uio=d4
[05:49] <electricalan> ahh
[05:49] <ajithkp560> hi abhijit
[05:49] <Abhijit> hellol ajithkp560
[05:50] <ajithkp560> hi r u indian?
[05:50] <Abhijit> yeah
[05:50] <ajithkp560> im also inian
[05:50] <Abhijit> !in | ajithkp560
[05:50] <Abhijit> ajithkp560, come there
[05:50] <electricalan> lol
[05:50] <ajithkp560> sorry wrong type
[05:50] <Abhijit> electricalan, whats to lol in it?
 thanks for answering .............. I tried ........ it works . previously i was screwing up my code :)
[05:51] <urlin2u> pnorman, not really I suspect look o  the web for the dependencies of any particular package using your google foo.
[05:51] <ajithkp560> electricalan, who is it?
[05:51] <electricalan> I'm mildly amused at the notion of country specific channels
[05:51] <electricalan> but only mildly
[05:51] <Abhijit> hmm
[05:51] <ajithkp560> hi anurag..
[05:51] <urlin2u> pnorman, or ask around the irc maybe somebody will know.
[05:52] <Abhijit> installation of ubuntu restrictged extra is hanged in software center while it was doing something with debconf. i killed that process. now how do i close the installation process? in 11.10
[05:52] <Abhijit> help
[05:58] <tapout> can natty run squeeze *.deb's ?
[05:59] <urlin2u> tapout, I don't that is a good idea.
[06:00] <urlin2u> think*
[06:06] <Milossh> hello. I have installed firefox from mozilla's public ftp, but I have a problem when I set it a default browser, and then open links from within, say skype.(this works for any other app. It doesn't open link if my browser is already running, but opens new firefox window)
[06:06] <Milossh> fwiw, double clicking a .html file in nautilus opens file in firefox as it should
 1 have one problem .........using  xterm -e vi is it possible to get control back to previous terminal while a process is executing in the another terminal
[06:17] <alvey> Good night
[06:18] <Kalidarn> what's an alternative to GPA it seems it got removed from the ubuntu repositories
[06:19] <h33lt0e> Does Wubi install ubuntu on its own partition?  What's the difference between using Wubi and installing from CD?
[06:20] <anurag> HI all ......... i have one question using  xterm -e vi is it possible to get control back to previous terminal while a process is executing in the another terminal
[06:20] <h33lt0e> The reason being that I have been unsuccessful in trying to get my computer to boot from USB key, and don't have a cd-rom drive and was looking to use Wubi to install Ubuntu
[06:20] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, wubi is a file in windows.
[06:21] <h33lt0e> so does that mean it just runs the ubuntu interface inside windows?
[06:21] <h33lt0e> I can't install ubuntu onto an exf3 partition through windows?
[06:21] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, yes, do you know the out of the bios key prompt to choose the boot?
[06:22] <h33lt0e> yeah, i tried everything through the bios, I have an Acer Revo AR3610
[06:22] <h33lt0e> when i try to boot from USB it just hangs, with a blinking cursor
[06:22] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, you tr f12 at powering on?
[06:22] <urlin2u> try*
[06:22] <h33lt0e> i tried formatting NTFS, Fat32 and i tried f12, set my bios to boot from usb key
[06:22] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, how are you loading the usb?
[06:23] <h33lt0e> it all just goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor
[06:23] <h33lt0e> I use unetbootin to create the USB drive, then i just plug it in to the back of my revo in one of the usb ports
[06:24] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, tap the shift key at powering on at the gui hit f6 then nomodeset for a low graphic boot sounds like a graphic card problem.
[06:24] <h33lt0e> Oh, interesting.  Is it an issue that I am using a 60" LCD projection tv?
[06:25] <h33lt0e> I will be back, i will try this!
[06:25] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, hard to say but unplug it if needed try the f6 plugged and unplugged.
[06:26] <h33lt0e> so as soon as it turns on i tap f6?
[06:26] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, start tapping as you turn it on it gets you to a early gui.
[06:27] <callen> I can't get jockey to select the current nvidia drivers and use them
[06:27] <callen> it throws an error and says to check the log
[06:27] <h33lt0e> whats the best format for the usb drive? NTFS?  Fat32?
[06:27] <callen> 2011-11-06 22:25:24,446 DEBUG: nvidia_current_updates is not the alternative in use
[06:27] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, with unetbootin fat
[06:28] <h33lt0e> sounds good
[06:29] <rams_pandu> hi all, is there any java decompiler software for ubuntu 10.04?
[06:29] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, on the web it says a nividia card so te problem is the graphic driver the low graphic should work.
[06:30] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, if the usb is booting sounds like it is.
[06:30] <callen> I am attempting to reinstall the nvidia drivers. :\
[06:30] <celltech> my synaptic is broken
[06:31] <dudism> how to auto logon to unity without entering a password using a shell to configure the settings?
[06:31] <urlin2u> celltech, meaning?
[06:31] <dudism> sudo apt-get remove ..purge synaptic
[06:31] <dudism> sudo apt-get remove --purge synaptic
[06:31] <celltech> urlin2u I can not delete residual config
[06:31] <dudism> or something afaik
[06:32] <urlin2u> celltech, what s the error your getting?
[06:32] <dudism> i really have to configure out
[06:32] <celltech> urlin2u apply will not activate
[06:32] <urlin2u> celltech, have you installed synaptic without runing and updates?
[06:33] <celltech> urlin2u, no. I just updated it
[06:33] <dudism> i still wonder why synaptic was removed, it is a very stable application now
[06:33] <urlin2u> celltech, so that repositories are good the cd is not ticked?
[06:34] <h33lt0e> ulrin2u:  f6 doesnt do anything, goes straight to blinking cursor still
[06:34] <celltech> urlin2u, select all for complete removal. and the Apply option stays blank. So I can't "apply" changes
[06:34] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, can you try the usb on another conputer to confirm it is good?
[06:35] <geek7> h33lt0e: if you have a windows box, try running the hp drive format tool (a site called baywolf has instructions) then running unetbootin on it
[06:35] <leo2007> how to teach xdg-open to launch a user preferred terminal application?
[06:35] <bandit5432> any one have success with kernel 3.1?
[06:36] <urlin2u> celltech, select all where is that in synaptic?
[06:37] <celltech> urlin2u , I mean I select all for complete removal. and it won't let me apply.. that's what I mean
[06:38] <rams_pandu> hi all, is there any java decompiler software for ubuntu 10.04?
[06:38] <urlin2u> celltech, so the select all for complete removal is part of the gui popup after picking stuff?
[06:39] <celltech> urlin2u, no. I manually righ click/ select them all, then try to apply the removal. There is no select all option
[06:39] <urlin2u> celltech, hmm I just don't understand, you are familoiar with synaptic though and how it works I assume.
[06:40] <celltech> urlin2u, enough to remove residual which I read is good to do for the computer
[06:42] <urlin2u> celltech, I don't think there is a select all option in synaptic it is a per package
[06:43] <urlin2u> celltech, I might be misunderstanding you though but with dependencies a select all right click makes no sense at least to me. :D
[06:44] <celltech> urlin2u, There is not no. However. When I right click every single option, and mark for complete removal. I'm supposed to have the option to apply the changes. And my Apply option is blacked out and not selectable
[06:44] <Alkon> hello, i wanna know how to unistall a program that i installed with "make" command
[06:44] <jrodger> can anyone help with polling mac address of ethernet cards? The issue we are having is that they have changed the network card and the server is still looking for the old mac address
[06:44] <zprood> Hi
[06:45] <somsip> Alkon: make unistall from the build directory
[06:45] <somsip> *uninstall
[06:46] <Alkon> somsip: thanks i'll do it now
[06:46] <h33lt0e> urlin2u:  usb did not boot on another computer, gave the same blinking cursor for about 2 minutes
[06:46] <h33lt0e> geek7:  i am trying the hp boot method tool
[06:47] <zprood> can anyone help me? I have some files named by "Link to XXX", i want to get ride of "Link to" prefix, how to do it? THX
[06:47] <h33lt0e> do I need to run unetbootin as administrator?
[06:47] <geek7> i usually run it as such
[06:48] <geek7> but the drive formatter is the big thing IMO
[06:48] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, sounds like the usb needs reloading reformat the usb and use a fat32, unetbootin run in admin in ubuntu i forget for windows.
[06:49] <h33lt0e> i've reloaded the usb key about 5 different times using unetbootin
[06:49]  * XXUN momo xcjc~~~
[06:49] <h33lt0e> using various ntfs, fat32, fat16
[06:49] <h33lt0e> all give the same result
[06:49] <dudism> is it possible to use a symbolic link to start unrar with the content of nice 19?
[06:50] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, you have it what config right now?
[06:50] <urlin2u> in*
[06:50]  * XXUN ZZZZZZzzzzzzz
[06:50] <h33lt0e> urlin2u:  I have it in fat32
[06:51] <An-iSociaL> anyone have a link to a tutorial for setting up multiple vpn connections in ubuntu?
[06:51] <An-iSociaL> i would like to connect to 2 simultaneously
[06:51] <h33lt0e> geek7:  what do i do with this hp formatted usb key?
[06:51] <h33lt0e> geek7:  it just has some windows 98 boot information on it, is that of any use to me?
[06:51] <Abhish> http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/A-Disturbing-Dialog-About-Ubuntu-and-Unity
[06:52] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, you might try another loader pendrivelinux has several one for running ubuntu called multisystem, and I think the other called yum for windows.
[06:52] <Abhish> If you after reading that agree with it, speak up.
[06:52] <geek7> h33lt0e,: delete those, install unetbootin
[06:52] <h33lt0e> geek7: gotchya, but this time dont format with unetbootin i assume?
[06:52] <Abhish> geek7: Whats the issue?
[06:53] <geek7> h33lt0e: it won't. it should just copy the files in
[06:53] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, here is the yum for windows use, yeah it may be a problem with unetbootin, never happened to e but it does happen. https://encrypted.google.com/url?url=http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/&rct=j&sa=U&ei=LoC3TvS9L8qPiAKMubRm&ved=0CBwQFjAB&q=+pendrivelinux+usb+loader&usg=AFQjCNG-iracoPBlmk_IfBJCXaKZy9dabg
[06:53] <geek7> the HP tool flips the bootable bit
[06:54] <h33lt0e> geek7:  ahh i see!  how interesting
[06:55] <h33lt0e> how long does it typically take to boot from a usb device (ie how long should i wait with the blinking cursor on my screen?)
[06:56] <geek7> should be nearly instant
[06:57] <urlin2u> Abhijit, that is a stupid blog, there are 100's of open source distros I woldn't spend a second coplaing I would just find one that works.
[06:57] <h33lt0e> what exactly does wubi do?  i thought it allows you install ubuntu on a partition through windows?
[06:58] <h33lt0e> or does it just install ubuntu as an application in windows?
[06:58] <urlin2u> complaining*
[06:58] <edbian> h33lt0e: it installs ubuntu as an application in windows
[06:58] <Abhijit> :-o
[06:58] <h33lt0e> edbian: oh i see, shoot
[06:58] <urlin2u> h33lt0e, application in windows
[06:58] <edbian> h33lt0e: It creates a file with which it uses to pretend to have an Ubuntu ext4 partition
[06:58] <Abhijit> urlin2u, you talking to me?
[06:59] <Abhijit> contats groups are messed up in this new emapthy. how to correct them?
[06:59] <urlin2u> Abhijit, no I just directed at you for fun, you wanted to hear agreement how about the mirror image.
[06:59] <Abhijit> urlin2u, i think you are confusing in the nicks
[07:00] <leo2007> how to list all files of an installed app such as xdg-utils?
[07:00] <urlin2u> Abhijit, I that I am the other nic is very close to yours my bad sorry. :D
[07:00] <urlin2u> Abhish, that is a stupid blog, there are 100's of open source distros I woldn't spend a second coplaing I would just find one that works.
[07:00] <Abhijit> urlin2u, :-)
[07:01] <urlin2u> the hate is so tiresome.
[07:03] <An-iSociaL> anyone know how to initiate 2 vpn connections simultaneously?
[07:03] <An-iSociaL> google is worthless
[07:04] <soreau> hey guys, is there a way to create a contiguous pdf document from two jpg images?
[07:05] <An-iSociaL> fpdf probly soreau
[07:05] <soreau> Or is there a way to create a single pdf document from two?
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> soreau: Yes.  One way (not sure if it's the best) would be to use cups-pdf to convert each jpg to a pdf, the pdfjoin to merge the two PDF pages.
[07:05] <An-iSociaL> anyway
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> *then
[07:05] <An-iSociaL> how can i connect 2 vpns?
[07:05] <soreau> tonyyarusso: Ok, pdfjoin is probably what I'm missing
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> soreau: in the pdfjam package
[07:06] <soreau> tonyyarusso: thanks
[07:06] <Abhijit> An-iSociaL, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/vnc/list/55305
[07:06] <An-iSociaL> Abhijit, vpn
[07:06] <An-iSociaL> not vnc
[07:06] <An-iSociaL> thanks for the effort tho, more than ive got since i showed up
[07:07] <Abhijit> okies
[07:09] <Abhijit> An-iSociaL, http://gopenvpn.sourceforge.net/
[07:09] <bandit5432> soreau, import the pictures into libreoffice export as pdf?
[07:09] <soreau> bandit5432: hm, let's see
[07:09] <An-iSociaL> sigh
[07:09] <An-iSociaL> thanks anyway
[07:11] <h33lt0e> urlin2u, geek7:  I did the HP tool then used YUMI, WoRKS!!! thank you guys very much for the help
[07:11] <soreau> bandit5432: I don't really see a way to import images in libreoffice
[07:11] <bandit5432> just paste them
[07:12] <bandit5432> or insert menu image
[07:12] <bandit5432> insert menu picture from file
[07:14] <anu> hi
[07:14] <soreau> bandit5432: It's not very intuitive.. plus I'm more of a CLI guy
[07:14] <bandit5432> are you libreoffice?
[07:14] <bandit5432> in'
[07:14] <soreau> bandit5432: I have both images open but I can't seem to move it far enough down to position it where I want it
[07:15] <bandit5432> hit enter to move it to new page you can also drag it to resize if you want bigger pages then click on format page and change the page size
[07:16] <karidoe> hello everyone,
[07:16] <karidoe> I have question and need you guys help.
[07:17] <karidoe> how can I use mysql function in active record of CI ?
[07:17] <soreau> bandit5432: setting the page size helped but do you know if there's a way to define a multiple page pdf and where it would be divided?
[07:18] <gulzar> any operator here? I want to see log of my postings here. I put a command here long back about 2 weeks but not remembering it and I also cleared my xchat log from /home. Any help.
[07:18] <bandit5432> just put each page on a seperate page it will print what you see
[07:19] <soreau> bandit5432: I see..
[07:20] <bandit5432> soreau, does that do what you want?
[07:20] <bandit5432> soreau, you can also do more advanced pdfs from scribus or inkscape
[07:21] <HorizonXP> hey, i found a server that is stuck on 8.04, intrepid. how can I upgrade it to the latest version, or at least, 10.04 LTS?
[07:21] <HorizonXP> i have SSH access to it, and currently, apt-get update returns a bunch of 404 errors.
[07:22] <bandit5432> HorizonXP, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[07:22] <Guest64841> hi
[07:22] <ksx4system> does Ubuntu installed from minimal CD contain Ubuntu One and other completely useless crap which only wastes RAM and/or CPU cycles?
[07:23] <Morfeus^> hello all!
[07:23] <HorizonXP> bandit5432: thanks, but i messed up, it's 8.10, not 8.04
[07:23] <soreau> bandit5432: It worked, thanks
[07:23] <bandit5432> soreau, no problem
[07:23] <soreau> ! 8.04
[07:23] <Guest64841> i have a question y wont ubantu 11.10 reun my virtual dj?
[07:23] <ksx4system> Guest64841: cause it's Windows app? and afair it does not like Wine
[07:24] <Guest64841> whats a ngood app to get?
[07:25] <ksx4system> for DJing? bad news, Linux doesn't have good software for creating/mixing music (yes, I know - there is Audacity but it's not for music mixing)
[07:25] <bandit5432> mixing there are lots of apps
[07:25] <Guest64841> my virtual dj wont work here
[07:25] <ksx4system> bandit5432: it's not about how much is available, it's about quality. ditto
[07:26] <Guest64841> true
[07:26] <geek7> ksx4system: just avoid metapackages and install JUST what you need
[07:26] <ksx4system> geek7: well, minimal CD should let me do it :)
[07:27] <Guest64841> then how to i get back too windows if this os aint worth me even bein able to dj on?
[07:27] <bandit5432> ksx4system, i see i never have used any but some recommend http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html
[07:27] <Megatron_Prime> HAHAHAHA LOOSERS UBUNTU SUCKS LOLOL
[07:27]  * Megatron_Prime is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[07:27] <FloodBot1> Megatron_Prime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:27]  * Megatron_Prime is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[07:27] <An-iSociaL> still trying to figure out how to establish 2 pptp vpn (not vnc) connections
[07:27] <An-iSociaL> it seems it only has device ppp0
[07:28] <An-iSociaL> i guess i need to be able to use 1 and ppp1
[07:28] <gulzar> any operator here? I want to see log of my postings here. I put a command here long back about 2 weeks but not remembering it and I also cleared my xchat log from /home. Any help.
[07:28] <ksx4system> bandit5432: I wonder how good/bad can this one perform in radio/podcasting usage
[07:29] <bandit5432> ksx4system, that i dont know worth a try though
[07:29] <Guest64841> how owuld i go back to windows since i cant even dj?
[07:29] <An-iSociaL> ok since nobody know ill keep searching n maybe try back later
[07:30] <bandit5432> ksx4system, i always liked the screenshots but i have never gotten around to playing with it
[07:30] <ksx4system> bandit5432: just 'cause of less hassle with double/triple sound cards + some cool software (freeware jingle players, Audacity, some cool freeware audio recorder with epic performance even on Pentium II class rig) I used to use winblows 2k
[07:31] <ksx4system> Guest64841: go to ##windows and ask
[07:31] <bandit5432> i miss win2k
[07:31] <kornez> where can i find a good manual to ubunto users and permissions? i don't understand how this works at all...
[07:31] <ksx4system> bandit5432: one of better releases of that shit
[07:31] <gulzar> kornez: search at linux-tips . they have many good books
[07:31] <bandit5432> ksx4system, thats the truth
[07:31] <glioros> Guest64841 stop using windows if you want to be a real MAN
[07:32] <bandit5432> Guest64841, is a girl glioros :P
[07:32] <bandit5432> jk
[07:32] <glioros> blond?
[07:32] <bandit5432> could be
[07:32] <bandit5432> arent they what ever you want them to be?
[07:33] <glioros> it depends
[07:33] <bandit5432> wait wait thats a diff channel
[07:33] <gulzar> glioros: Guest64841 : don't stop using windows . Windows can't be USED it can only be broken. Start computing and work with Linux  :)
[07:33] <ksx4system> bandit5432: I should get back to podcasting with some new rig (USB high quality soundcard like Audiotrak Maya + totally silent hardware + stripped down to bare bones Debian)
[07:33] <gulzar> any operator here? I want to see log of my postings here. I put a command here long back about 2 weeks but not remembering it and I also cleared my xchat log from /home. Any help.
[07:33] <Guest64841> im new too ubantu but like it and jus getting used too it but  i need some type of dj sotware
[07:34] <bandit5432> ksx4system, that sounds like a project
[07:34] <gulzar> Guest64841: which app is that? give me link or name
[07:34] <bandit5432> any one get kernel 3.1 to work succesfully?
[07:34] <Guest64841> i used to use virtual dj
[07:34] <gulzar> Guest64841: when here on irc use names to address comments or it becomes confusing. You can use TAB to complete names
[07:34] <ksx4system> bandit5432: fuck yeah, podcast powered entirely by open source software
[07:34] <bandit5432> dj apps for linux dont know if any of them work http://linux-sound.org/ddj.html
[07:35] <gulzar> Guest64841: see bandit5432 link you can find something
[07:35] <Tm_T> ksx4system: language, please
[07:37] <kfizz1> Any thoughts/reflections on switching from Ubuntu to Mint?
[07:37] <Guest64841> gulzar: where is the link?
[07:37] <Abhijit> kfizz1, get the one 'you' are comfortable with. explore both and decide
[07:37] <dr_willis> i dont see the point in switching.g to mint
[07:37] <gulzar> kfizz1: why? any special requiremetns?
[07:37] <gulzar> Guest64841:  dj apps for linux dont know if any of them work http://linux-sound.org/ddj.html
[07:38] <geboy> can someone help me setting virtual network interface on oneiric desktop? i need to setup clonezlla server
[07:38] <bandit5432> gulzar, look at http://terminatorx.org/
[07:38] <gulzar> kfizz1: good thing abt Mint is that you can install more apps easily from soft center. like VIrtualBox full version etc.
[07:39] <gulzar> kfizz1: rest no difference
[07:39] <kfizz1> Just can't get used to Unity. For some reason (I think related to Unity and/or compiz) my system hangs and all the apps start taking up as much CPU as they can -- has happened twice tonight. I miss the easy customization Ubuntu used to offer, etc.
[07:39] <bandit5432> kfizz1, unity will ship with next mint
[07:39] <bandit5432> look into xfce lxde or gnome 3 fallback
[07:39] <ksx4system> yay, this minimal CD rocks... ol' good Debian's installer
[07:39] <gulzar> bandit5432: I think guest wants a dj software to play his music collection.... it is different
[07:40] <ksx4system> I'll never install Ubuntu any other way than that
[07:40] <dr_willis> gnome2 was actually lacking in customization in many ways. ;)  unity in the 12.x release will gain more customization features
[07:40] <gulzar> kfizz1: mint12 is getting lots of extensions for gnome3. check there website
[07:40] <bandit5432> dr_willis,  a working group manager would benice
[07:40] <dr_willis> theres always gnome-shell
[07:40] <bandit5432> which does not have a working group manger
[07:41] <gulzar> any operator here? I want to see log of my postings here. I put a command here long back about 2 weeks but not remembering it and I also cleared my xchat log from /home. Any help.
[07:41] <bandit5432> upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 was like 6.04 to 6.10
[07:41] <bandit5432> sucky
[07:41] <dr_willis> !log
[07:41] <bandit5432> any one running kernel 3.1?
[07:42] <bandit5432> i cant get it to boot it hangs
[07:42] <bandit5432> tried release  rc10 rc7 and there are no dailys for 32bit
[07:43] <kfizz1> I was thinking about LMDE. But I think I'll just have to accept change either way because I'm sure that will be going the way of Gnome 3.
[07:43] <dr_willis> ive seen no metio of lxde changeing much in the future
[07:44] <bandit5432> lmde is linux mint debian
[07:44] <bandit5432> just had to look that up
[07:45] <dr_willis> gnome2 is dead.. just kicking around a bit more. ;)
[07:45] <gnnr> lxde is lightweight desktop environment...
[07:45] <gulzar> please help .which one is #ubuntu file? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/21/
[07:45] <bandit5432> dr_willis, looks that way, will have to see how the fork goes
[07:45] <dr_willis> i imagine the fork will not go very far.
[07:46] <dr_willis> i remember the ximian gnome days however. ;)
[07:46] <bandit5432> gulzar, scroll to bottom almost 	its #ubuntu.txt
[07:46] <bandit5432> dr_willis, is old fart
[07:46] <gulzar> bandit5432: Oh yes
[07:47] <bandit5432> oh i remember ximian now
[07:47] <bandit5432> the monkey distro
[07:47] <dr_willis> things go in cycles.. i remember befor we had 'start menus'  like the amiga. now we seem almost back that way
[07:48] <dr_willis> c64 geos - app launcher like pages in a book. similer to how unity/gshell/android works
[07:48] <bandit5432> start menus you mean like win 3.1 or dos
[07:49] <dr_willis> yep.. gotta love big changes that seem to fall back to how things were ages befor.
[07:50] <bandit5432> seems like we didnt get smarter we got dumber
[07:50] <dr_willis> userfriendly  means dumbing things down these days..
[07:50] <bandit5432> pretty == the new productivity
[07:51] <kfizz1> I like the old productivity.
[07:51]  * dr_willis goes back to using nroff...
[07:52] <raj-darkmystery> hi guys need little guidance
[07:52] <raj-darkmystery> i am using postfix for mail server, can i change user email password without changing users access password?
[07:53] <bandit5432> well i have been here for 6 hours and no answered questions :|
[07:53] <andchatuser1> lol
[07:54] <bandit5432> guess i will try back tomorrow
[07:54] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com
[07:54] <gnnr> what's the question?
[07:54] <dr_willis> ;)  is handy
[07:55] <andchatuser1> lol
[07:55] <bandit5432> so is my hammer!
[07:55] <bandit5432> any one using kernel 3.1 ?
[07:56] <RKyle> How do you install a .deb file in Ubuntu 11.10?
[07:56] <dr_willis> some days it seems 90% of the questions asked i here are allready answered at askubuntu.com ;)
[07:56] <dr_willis> RKyle:  double click  is one way..  sudo dpkg -i foo.deb is another
[07:56] <gnnr> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:57] <bandit5432> ok some one has installed 4 versions of 3.1 and cant get the computer to boot ?
[07:57] <dr_willis> sudo gdebi foo.deb     is a 3rd..
[07:57] <dr_willis> i tend to use    gdebi
[07:57] <bandit5432> gdebi ftw
[07:57] <dr_willis> RKyle:  what is the deb exactly?
[07:58] <RKyle> A wireless card driver.
[07:58] <bandit5432> its gnome-panel 2.14.4
[07:58] <ucenik03> da be
[07:58] <ucenik11> so mi prajs
[07:59] <RKyle> The software center won't install it and I have to use TTY1 for commands.
[07:59] <dr_willis> RKyle:  normally you use the 'addational drivers' tool ald let it install them. if you got a wired connection.
[07:59] <tolmun> aohi, how are you dealing with psd files without switching to windoza and CS?
[07:59] <bjorneven> hi guys, im on 10.04 LTS and try to install munin-node
[07:59] <RKyle> The router is locked in another room and I can't pick locks.
[07:59] <bjorneven> but the system actually crashes while installing
[08:00] <Abhijit> where can i get themes for gnome3?
[08:00] <dr_willis> Abhijit:  webupd8 blog site has a guide o them and a list
[08:00] <bandit5432> tolmun,  gimp does not work for you?
[08:00] <Abhijit> dr_willis, okay
[08:01] <bjorneven> http://paste.ubuntu.com/730768/
[08:01] <bjorneven> after "apt-get install munin-node"
[08:01] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. on 11.10 I don't see a "letter" icon where I can I access chat. However "online accounts" made me online on google talk. So how do I access account list, for instance?
[08:01] <ruslan_osmanov> I'm running GNOME session
[08:02] <dr_willis> !info munin-node
[08:02] <h33lt0e> hey all, im installing ubuntu 11.1 and it hangs and in the box it says "Unable to determine the release"
[08:02] <bjorneven> maybe related http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=416098
[08:02] <dr_willis> h33lt0e:  you checked the md5sum of the download?
[08:03] <h33lt0e> no i did not, how do i do that?
[08:03] <h33lt0e> do I just restart the system?
[08:04] <dr_willis> !md5
[08:04] <meta-coder> !sha256
[08:04] <meta-coder> !sha512
[08:05] <bjorneven> nvmrmind guys, I just need to upgrade the RAID controller
[08:05] <dr_willis> ive used torrents to fix a bad iso befor also. ;)
[08:05] <dr_willis> if its a bad iso/burn to cd
[08:09] <Cheap_Scotsman> Anyone able to advise on a wireless PCI card that was being recognized and no longer is after trying a USB adapter?
[08:09] <gulzar> use this command in terminal - modinfo hv_utils
[08:10] <Cheap_Scotsman> moi?
[08:14] <dr_willis> bbl
[08:15] <gulzar> Everybody try this command in terminal and see the alias in the output - modinfo hv_utils
[08:15] <dpb|> Hi
[08:16] <dpb|> What is ubuntu
[08:16] <ucenik03> hi
[08:16] <dpb|> Jk
[08:17] <kremi> !flash
[08:18] <healern> Is there a linux version of sfx recovery software? I am trying to find something in google, but I am having no success.
[08:18] <ucenik11> rena
[08:18] <kremi> How to configure ssh server on my ubuntu 10.04?
[08:19] <llutz_> gulzar: you want to read what "hv" stands for
[08:19] <gulzar> llutz_: Ok so what it means?
[08:19] <ucenik03> whyyyy
[08:19] <ucenik03> :D
[08:20] <ucenik03> why i cant change my nick name
[08:20] <llutz_> gulzar: $searchsiteofyourchoice will tell you
[08:20] <kremi> Hello all, how can I setup and configure ssh server on my ubuntu 10.04?
[08:20] <Milossh> hello. I have installed firefox from mozilla's public ftp, but I have a problem when I set it a default browser, and then open links from within, say skype.(this works for any other app. It doesn't open link if my browser is already running, but opens new firefox window)
[08:20] <Milossh> fwiw, double clicking a .html file in nautilus opens file in firefox as it should
[08:21] <llutz_> kremi: basically: sudo apt-get install openssh-server       and it will run. you should read "man sshd_config" for some options you might want to change.
[08:21] <gulzar> llutz_: I am bad at searching command on google. But I will follow you. Please tell me
[08:21] <ucenik03> a grill kill them alll :P
[08:21] <llutz_> gulzar: hint: hyper v
[08:22] <ucenik03> wwwaaaazzzzzzzuuuuuuuuupppppppppppppppppp :D
[08:22] <ucenik11> ne tuku brco
[08:22] <ucenik11> i
[08:22] <ucenik11> brci*
[08:22] <ucenik03> hahaha
[08:22] <llutz_> ucenik03: stop that pls
[08:22] <ucenik03> hahahaah you  are crazy
[08:22] <gulzar> llutz_: it is windows' product
[08:23] <ucenik03> yes it is
[08:23] <ucenik11> u are so stupid gulzar
[08:23] <ucenik03> hah
[08:23] <llutz_> ucenik03: stop that pls
[08:23] <ucenik11> noooB
[08:23] <ucenik11> bo2
[08:23] <ucenik03> what i do to you ???
[08:23] <gulzar> ucenik11: I told .. I am bad at finding commands
[08:23] <ucenik11> kill him
[08:23] <kremi> llutz, but I don't have installed already from installation of ubuntu?
[08:23] <kremi> llutz, right that?
[08:24] <llutz_> kremi: its not installed by default, only client is
[08:24] <ucenik11> how to use trerminal bo2s?
[08:24] <gulzar> ucenik11: what I understoos is that somewhere on my PC there is something related to Windows
[08:24] <ucenik03> who plays couter strike ?
[08:24] <gnnr> lulz
[08:24] <gulzar> ucenik11: I Play
[08:24] <ucenik11> at school we have windows xP
[08:24] <gulzar> ucenik11: I even broke my keyboard
[08:24] <ucenik03> hah
[08:25] <gulzar> ucenik11: tell me abt this modinfo hv_utils
[08:25] <gulzar> ucenik03: we also have XP and few with win98
[08:25] <ucenik03> ajhhahahhaa
[08:25] <ucenik11> hahahahahah bots
[08:25] <gulzar> ucenik11: tell me abt this modinfo hv_utils PLease
[08:25] <llutz_> !ot | ucenik03
[08:25] <ucenik11> win 98 is from the 4etrsturskoto
[08:26] <ucenik11> u now what is that?
[08:26] <ucenik03> yes we now
[08:26] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks. Is it normal for windows to show up maximized under Ubuntu 11.10? If so, how do I turn this "feature" off?
[08:27] <szal> .oO( split personality? )
[08:27] <ucenik03> whyy
[08:27] <ucenik03> why
[08:27] <gulzar> ucenik11: again I don't know what it means 4etrsturskoto
[08:27] <ucenik03> why
[08:27] <ucenik03> why
[08:27] <Bill_> 123
[08:27] <FloodBot1> ucenik03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <llutz_> !ops | ucenik*
[08:27] <ucenik11> full stupid
[08:27] <ucenik11> 100%
 ucenik11: again I don't know what it means  hahaha
[08:28] <jtr__> hello ! i have a problem with triple boot and grub... is this the right place?  ( my ditros are ubuntu, fedora and win 7 )
[08:28] <gulzar> ucenik11: ucenik03 : you people are using nice language I will pick it up after few laughs
[08:29] <gulzar> jtr__: which one you installed LASR?
[08:29] <jtr__> LASR ?
[08:29] <jtr__> last ?
[08:29] <szal> jtr__: since when is Win7 a distro? ;)
[08:29] <gulzar> jtr__: yes last
[08:30] <gulzar> szal: gud one...
[08:30] <jtr__> ubuntu ( in an ext 4 of fedora )
[08:30] <jtr__> i mean fedora has the hold over the main lvm , ubuntu was installed in an ext4 partition
[08:30] <ucenik03> wazzup
[08:30] <GeorgeJ> szal: Can't Windows 7 be considered a distribution of the Windows OS?
[08:31] <gulzar> jtr__: if ubuntu is last then there should be no problem. Install - startup manager . It will solve your problem of menu . (it do in my case)
[08:31] <jtr__> pardon me win 7 is not a distro, its like hardware for dell computers, it has to be there :P
[08:31] <gulzar> GeorgeJ: no win7 is a crap it can't be a distro
[08:31] <ucenik03> yes skros
[08:31] <ucenik03> :P
[08:31] <jtr__> its working perfectly fine sir, the problem is how do i remove fedora and still not mess up ubuntu
[08:31] <ikonia> gulzar: stop it
[08:31] <GeorgeJ> gulzar: If you say so..
 ucenik11: again I don't know what it means
[08:31] <ucenik11> admin?
[08:31] <gulzar> ikonia: so you are win lovers
[08:32] <ikonia> gulzar: stop it now.
[08:32] <ucenik03> yes i am :D
[08:32] <jtr__> can someone answer that ?
[08:32] <ucenik11> who plays cs 1.6 and who is bot?
[08:32] <jtr__> ucenik11: lol!
[08:32] <ucenik03> xD
[08:32] <gulzar> jtr__: install startup manager
[08:32] <ikonia> ucenik11: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support only. Please keep to that topic, you have been kicked once as a warning
[08:32] <Volkodav> How come removing gwibber pulls desktop-ubuntu as independency for removal as well ?
[08:32] <jtr__> for ubuntu ?
[08:32] <ucenik11> who eats shit? u piece of shit!
[08:33] <szal> jtr__: where's the problem w/ that?
[08:33] <llutz_> ikonia: would you pls ... ucenik*
[08:33] <llutz_> ah
[08:33] <GeorgeJ> Aren't kids supposed to be in school at this time of dat?
[08:33] <reenignEesreveR-> how does gnu make determine that a certain rule needs not rebuild
[08:33] <GeorgeJ> s/dat/day/
[08:33] <llutz_> GeorgeJ: i fear, they ARE in school
[08:33]  * gulzar feels like trapped with some win lovers on ubuntu irc
[08:33] <jtr__> ucenik11: damn , you're funny, but not at all when i want people to help me and they have to spend time reading ur shit !
[08:34] <ikonia> jtr__: drop the language, please.
[08:34] <jtr__> jtr__:  sure :)
[08:34] <ikonia> gulzar: this is the last warning I'll give you
[08:34] <jtr__> should i just delete the fedora partition ?
[08:34] <strix_> ucenik11 = student11 in english
[08:36] <GeorgeJ> How does one turn off the auto-maximization feature when a window is shown in Unity  under Ubuntu 11.10?
[08:37] <jtr__> can someone help here ?
[08:38] <llutz_> jtr__: if you want to remove fedora, you should be sure to have written ubuntus grub into MBR first
[08:38] <jtr__> llutz_: how do i do that ?
[08:38] <llutz_> jtr__: easiest way: boot into ubuntu, reinstall grub
[08:38] <jtr__> llutz_: will it not hamper my windows 7 entry in MBR?
[08:39] <llutz_> jtr__:w7 in MBR? how do you start linux?
[08:39] <GeorgeJ> llutz_: w7 might just be an entry in grub
[08:39] <llutz_> GeorgeJ: so its NOT in MBR
[08:40] <jtr__> llutz_: i get win7 boot display, and then i choose among the three distros , when i choose ubuntu grub opens up
[08:40] <GeorgeJ> llutz_: I don't know where grub stores its list entries, so I would not know
[08:40] <jtr__> llutz_: same with fedora , its grub shows up ( ubuntu and fedora grubs have distinct looks )
[08:40] <jtr__> llutz_: plus in the ubuntu grub i see the win 7 entry  !
[08:41] <sp4z> hi all, is there a server edition of ubuntu for 32bit machines?
[08:41] <jtr__> llutz_: i used some guide on triple booting fedora win7 and ubuntu ( i thought it was smart, and hey it worked )
[08:41] <llutz_> jtr__: in that case it should be safe just to remove fedora. (but i don't know w7-bootloader)
[08:41] <MagBo> are there any ubuntu developers? I wonder how to extract ubuntu-vga-detecting magic to use it in my own live dirstro.
[08:42] <strix_> jtr__: so linux grub entries are on linux partitions?
[08:42] <jtr__> strix_: ya, maybe they are , would it help if i gave u a partition detail on pastebin ?
[08:43] <strix_> jtr__: and you boot from windows boot menu. do you set up this from windows with EasyBCD
[08:43] <jtr__> strix_: 90% i think that is the case , because i used some other software ( from win 7 ) which registers linux boot entries after detecting them
[08:43] <jtr__> strix_: yes ESASYBCD!!!!
[08:44] <strix_> jtr__: i see, so you want to remove fedora, and leave w7 and ubuntu
[08:44] <jtr__> strix_: after deleting fedora i want to use its space and some more from the win7 ntfs partition
[08:44] <llutz_> jtr__: easier just to use grub and boot win7 from there. no additional software needed at all
[08:44] <jtr__> strix_: ya basically remove fedora first ( its irritating )
[08:45] <jtr__> strix_: the problem i face is because of three distros assigned individual spaces i run out of space on ubuntu.
[08:45] <MagBo> I was thinking about doing the following: having per-vga packages shipped with my live distro and an initscript working in a tiny linux to detect hardware then building per-boot package set and kexec into the per-boot made linux setup. I wonder what ubuntu devs think about that approach :)
[08:46] <strix_> jtr__: so remove fedora entry with EasyBCD, remove fedora partition and use the space for something else
[08:46] <MagBo> jtr__: you can (and must) easily share partition between your OSes :)
[08:47] <aum__> hello everyone, i have installed some software (apache ,php, mysql  etc) through apt-get now i want to install it on another machine where i do not have internet connection , how can i copy and configure .deb files
[08:47] <jtr__> strix_: ok ill do that and if after that ubuntu works, i will see you on this IRC :D
[08:47] <MagBo> on this Internets :)
[08:47] <skilz> Hi
[08:47] <llutz_> aum__: if both machines use the same os-version, copy the deb from /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:47] <strix_> jtr__: it'l boot
[08:48] <jtr__> strix_: thank you
[08:48] <strix_> jtr__: np
[08:48] <skilz> Anyone know of a battery monitoring app that will sit in the tray in fluxbox?
[08:48] <jtr__> MagBo: i just wanted to be sure, i dont want to have a blank screen at startup, anyways brb
[08:49] <healern> Is there a linux version of sfx recovery software?
[08:50] <aum__> thank you, llutz_  , will it be visible in synaptic package manager ?
[08:50] <szal> what is 'sfx recovery software'?
[08:51] <llutz_> aum__: no, you either have to copy them into /var/cache/apt/archives on target machine and "apt-get install php...." or use dpkg -i *.deb to install them
[08:52] <aum__> ok thank you...
[08:52] <milligan> Um, I think I've been a twit and removed my user from the sudoers group, without setting a password for root .. is there any way to fix that without booting a live cd etc ?
[08:52] <ikonia> milligan: boot into single user mode (recovery mode) from grub
[08:52] <ryannathans> hmm my load is always 1.00 and above, never below 1.00, cpu is only at 2%,
[08:52] <milligan> alright :(
[08:53] <ikonia> milligan: why is that sad ?
[08:53] <milligan> ikonia, I have to boot.
[08:53] <llutz_> uptime-fetish :)
[08:54] <ikonia> milligan: what do you expect ?
[08:54] <milligan> No :) My uptime is like three minuts now, haha
[08:54] <milligan> I did a usermod -G to my user.. I never edited the sudoers file. Is that command sufficient to screw up my sudo permissions ?
[08:54] <jtr__> strix_: i dont know which partition to remove :(
[08:54] <llutz_> milligan: -aG it should have been
[08:55] <milligan> llutz, right. So, what group do I need to add my user to to be able to use sudo again ?
[08:55] <milligan> sudo ?
[08:55] <llutz_> milligan: adduser user admin (admin is the group for sudo)
[08:56] <milligan> right. So, if I don't want to add a new user, but fix my current, I would do: usermod -aG admin,milligan,vboxusers milligan ?
[08:56] <llutz_> milligan: yes
[08:57] <milligan> cheers.
[08:57] <milligan> brb
[08:57] <llutz_> milligan: adduser does more than just creating users (read man adduser)
[08:57] <cloud> Hi guys, i just installed xfce desktop on my ubuntu 11.10 machine, and suddenly i cant access my home directory it gives an error saying, (error starting file /home/me/.gvfs: Transport endpoint is not connected) is there a fix for this maybe? or have i messed up me os?
[08:58] <xiaojiong> hi
[08:58] <xiaojiong> hello
[09:00] <xiaojiong> ???
[09:00] <aum__>  llutz_   mysql is not visible in that folder /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:01] <MagBo> !anybody | xiaojiong
[09:01] <MagBo> ah, he left :(
[09:03] <llutz_> aum__: then it has been already installed before. iirc you can use synaptic on target machine to create a script to download packages on other machines. have a look, it might help you
[09:04] <llutz_> aum__: that should pull all packages you need
[09:07] <karl-augustt> hello
[09:07] <karl-augustt> everybody
[09:07] <karl-augustt> I have an erro on dpkg
[09:07] <karl-augustt> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:07] <karl-augustt> do you think somethink about?
[09:07] <milligan> Fixed. :) thanks guys.
[09:08] <llutz_> karl-augustt: dpkg have given you the reason some lines above, check it
[09:09] <karl-augustt> Paramétrage de userful-multiplier (341-20090901000926-0ubuntu1) ...
[09:09] <karl-augustt> Section "ubuntu 10.04" is not exist.
[09:09] <karl-augustt> (EE) Not supported linux system
[09:09] <karl-augustt> dpkg : erreur de traitement de userful-multiplier (--configure) :
[09:09] <karl-augustt>  le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de
[09:09] <FloodBot1> karl-augustt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10] <deej1976> !info pastebin
[09:10] <karl-augustt> I 'm coming
[09:10] <karl-augustt> one minute
[09:10] <llutz_> karl-augustt: use "LANG=C  your command"   for english errors
[09:11] <karl-augustt> thanks for advices
[09:13] <llutz_> !info pastebinit
[09:14] <protanjung> hello
[09:14] <zoonk> hi
[09:15] <Fudge> hi im trying to prepare a partition for freebsd on my lucid box inside an extended partition with a couple of ubuntus, i have 22gig free space i want to allocate but not sure how to set it up for ufs or hfs which i think the fs needs to be
[09:15] <protanjung> what ever
[09:16] <dnivra> hello. I am trying to install openvas-server on Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm getting the following error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/730799/. Could someone tell me what is wrong?
[09:16] <norbert_> hi, the area on the sides of the windows where the cursor changes into a resize window icon is too small
[09:17] <norbert_> I don't even understand how the developers can work like this
[09:17] <norbert_> surely they themselves must notice these things
[09:17] <norbert_> sorry about that, but sometimes stuff pisses me off
[09:17] <ksx4system> anybody else has issues with TRIM on latest Ubuntu?
[09:18] <ksx4system> test from here https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking does not output zeros
[09:18] <ksx4system> ext4's discard set up correctly
[09:18] <ksx4system> what's wrong?
[09:20] <h33lt0e> I got a problem, I'm trying to set a pssword on my username and it wont let me.  There is no password on my account but it's asking me to authenticate with a password, is theres something i am supposed to type in the box?
[09:21] <zoonk> thats strange.. for wat accnt?
[09:21] <h33lt0e> the administrator account
[09:21] <h33lt0e> i had a password, then i removed it
[09:21] <JapyDooge> udevd-work[237]: open /dev/null failed: No such file or directory
[09:21] <h33lt0e> now i want to change settings and it keeps asking me for a password
[09:21] <JapyDooge> lol
[09:21] <h33lt0e> i type in the old password and it doesnt work, i leave it blank and it doesnt work
[09:22] <zoonk> try going to keys and encryption
[09:22] <Fudge> set a password sudo passwd username
[09:23] <dc5ala> JapyDooge, want a copy of that file?
[09:23] <h33lt0e> trying to set a psswrod with sudo does the same thing!
[09:23] <zoonk> i'm guessing you used differnt passwd during installation of OS
[09:23] <h33lt0e> nope
[09:23] <h33lt0e> i used the same password
[09:23] <h33lt0e> which is "password"
[09:24] <JapyDooge> hmm dc5ala ? :p
[09:24] <h33lt0e> then i loged it, then i deleted the password and set it to "none"
[09:24] <zoonk> does opening keys and password show anything?
[09:24] <h33lt0e> now it wont let me make any changes anywhere
[09:24] <h33lt0e> where do i open keys?
[09:24] <zoonk> just search from dash?
[09:25] <h33lt0e> theres one entry
[09:25] <h33lt0e> it says "Passwords: login"
[09:25] <zoonk> hmm try opening it
[09:25] <h33lt0e> all it says is is keyring tab
[09:25] <h33lt0e> Name:  login
[09:25] <h33lt0e> Created: blank
[09:26] <albech> how can i backup a CF card with 3 partitions on? I wish to maintain the partitions structure and data so it can be copied to another CF (same size)
[09:26] <h33lt0e> password
[09:27] <llutz_> albech: sudo cat /dev/sdX >/path/cf-backup.img
[09:27] <llutz_> albech: "/dev/sdX" = your cf-card
[09:27] <albech> llutz_ will that get all partitions and the MBR?
[09:27] <llutz_> albech: it will
[09:27] <BaNz> Hi guys, i've a reverse ssh to a server where i'm connected by a vpn server, how can i do to route a ftp connection through the reverse?
[09:27] <ksx4system> well, one more time: what's wrong with TRIM support in Ubuntu 11.10? OCZ Vertex2 SSD, ext4 mounted with discard, nodiratime and relatime - DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY
[09:27] <zoonk> opening user
[09:27] <albech> llutz_ you are a life saver ;)
[09:28] <zoonk> try opening user and groups
[09:28] <llutz_> albech: md5sum cf-card+image and compare md5
[09:28] <albech> llutz_ good call..
[09:28] <h33lt0e> i openned user account, it wont let me change anything since i need to unlock it
[09:29] <h33lt0e> it says "password: none", but i cant change it because i need to unlock it and then it asks to authenticate
[09:29] <zoonk> can you change user type?
[09:29] <h33lt0e> no i cannot
[09:29] <llutz_> h33lt0e: open a terminal, type"passwd"  and set new password
[09:29] <zoonk> add a new user?
[09:30] <h33lt0e> it wants me to authenticate to change anything
[09:30] <h33lt0e> llutz:  IT WORKED! thank you
[09:30] <h33lt0e> that was ridiculous
[09:30] <ksx4system> well, one more time: what's wrong with TRIM support in Ubuntu 11.10? OCZ Vertex2 SSD, ext4 mounted with discard, nodiratime and relatime - DOES NOT WORK CORRECTL
[09:32] <Jordan_U> MagBo: I would highly recommend doing a normal installation rather than continuing to try to use a live media as a real installation.
[09:32] <Jordan_U> ksx4system: Please stop with the caps lock.
[09:32] <kornez> linux is terrible
[09:32] <kornez> ...
[09:33] <ksx4system> Jordan_U: if you can't/don't want to help at least stop trolling :) thanks in advance
[09:33] <xgt001> hi, can someboday suggest how to make the ubuntu unity global menu always visible? any hacks/patches?
[09:33] <kornez> awfull invention...
[09:33] <llutz_> kornez: +support+
[09:33] <dnivra> hello. I am trying to install openvas-server on Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm getting the following error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/730799/. Could someone tell me what is wrong?
[09:33] <llutz_> kornez: ranting/whining next door
[09:35] <xgt001> anyone?
[09:35] <deej1976> xgt001: You can remove the global-menu and just google it.
[09:36] <xgt001> deej1976, nope i want global menu but i dont want that thing to auto hide
[09:38] <ksx4system> well, one more time: what's wrong with TRIM support in Ubuntu 11.10? OCZ Vertex2 SSD, ext4 mounted with discard, nodiratime and relatime - DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY
[09:38] <ikonia> ksx4system: define DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY
[09:38] <ikonia> ksx4system: (if you can do it without caps that would be better)
[09:39] <ksx4system> ikonia: it doesn't pass this test https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking (with 11.04 it worked like a charm)
[09:40] <ikonia> ksx4system: what does it do
[09:40] <karl-augustt> how to migrate to 11.10 with an 10.04
[09:41] <karl-augustt> le
[09:41] <ksx4system> ikonia: read linked page. last command should output zeros, it doesn't (file was deleted but sectors content was untouched - we can say that it wasn't really deleted = trim doesn't work)
[09:41] <llutz_> karl-augustt: 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04-> 11.10  better to install from new  or wait until 12.04 will be released
[09:41] <ikonia> ksx4system: I'm well aware of that test, hence why I'm asking what your machine actually does
[09:42] <ksx4system> ikonia: well, as I said: outputs untouched content. file was deleted (ls | grep filename = doesn't exist) but its content is still present on ssd
[09:43] <ksx4system> and it is even after ~20 minutes
[09:43] <ksx4system> long enough to kick in for trim
[09:43] <ikonia> ksx4system: does the ocz support trim ? can you show me your fstab, have you mounted/unmounted after updating fstab
[09:43] <ikonia> ksx4system: fstab is not dynamic
[09:43] <ksx4system> ikonia: yes, it does (OCZ Vertex2 60Gb with latest 1.35 firmware). I rebooted after editing fstab
[09:44] <ikonia> ksx4system: can you show me where that device shows trim support (I'm asking as I have 2 of the exact same devices)
[09:46] <ksx4system> ikonia: hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep TRIM outputs two lines "Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 1 block)" and "Deterministic read data after TRIM"
[09:47] <ikonia> ksx4system: ok - cool, I got that on mine too
[09:47] <ksx4system> it was one of my worst ideas ever to buy SSD
[09:47] <MagBo> Jordan_U: it has nothing to do with the problem I used to face (and solved) tonight
[09:48] <h33lt0e>  what folder does ubuntu install programs to?
[09:48] <ikonia> ksx4system: ahh, mine as OCZ Vertex PLUS, sorry, slightly different
[09:48] <ksx4system> I should just get one/two 10k rpm WD drives
[09:48] <ksx4system> ikonia: still it supports TRIM ;) but it's probably not Sandforce based
[09:48] <ikonia> ksx4system: totally agree
[09:48] <MagBo> Jordan_U: it's just that I came up with an idea of creating fully persistant live distro on top of archlinux that'll do ubuntu-like hardware-detecting magick
[09:48] <dnivra> I am trying to install openvas-server on Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm getting the following error -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/730799/. Could someone tell me what is wrong?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Why not just do a normal install of Ubuntu? A normal install of Ubuntu does dynamic hardware detection just like a live version.
[09:49] <ksx4system> ikonia: I'm sentenced to SSD now... HDD prices are crazy atm
[09:50] <MagBo> Jordan_U: I'm really interested in how is it solved in ubuntu, but I think that having package cache and booting in an intermediate linux that builds up needed stuff and kexeccing into the per-boot built system will do it :)
[09:50] <ikonia> ksx4system: I can't help you with that as I don't control the prices
[09:50] <ksx4system> ikonia: and current Ubuntu doesn't want to run with it... nightmare :/
[09:50] <ksx4system> ikonia: i know, i know
[09:50] <MagBo> Jordan_U: well, because - generally - I don't like ubuntu tbh :) I picked it as I needed to build up a simple bootable live distro to do some quick hacking
[09:51] <ksx4system> ikonia: well, I'll reboot this box one more time and check if this TRIM fail was temporary
[09:51] <Jordan_U> MagBo: Kexec doesn't magically pass along proper drivers and hardware configuration.
[09:51] <Jordan_U> MagBo: OK, then we should move this discussion to another channel like ##linux (if you want to continue).
[09:52] <MagBo> Jordan_U: ofc. I'll write some scripts that will be executed by the intermediate linux and then kexec in the per-boot configuration
[09:52] <MagBo> Jordan_U: sure, I'll be there in a second
[09:57] <BaNz> Hi, can someone help me with route?
[09:58] <TheHackOps> BaNz, Ill try
[09:58] <TheHackOps> BaNz, What seems to be the officer problem
[09:58] <ksx4system> ikonia: well, trim started by hand works (fstrim /) but it takes ages to finish
[09:59] <ksx4system> about one minute
[09:59] <ikonia> ksx4system: really,
[09:59] <ikonia> ksx4system: is it still showing as non-trim enabled with that test
[10:01] <BaNz> TheHackOps: I've a reverse from school to a personal server, on my server we'd set up a vpn i wanna do something when we are connected on the vpn we can connected by ftp to the school server can we do a route from 10.0.42.x to localhost (our reverse) port 12345 will it works? (dunno if i'm clear)
[10:02] <TheHackOps> BaNz, Uhh I dont know what your trying to do
[10:02] <TheHackOps> BaNz, Are you trying to make your local network accesable outsite of your school
[10:03] <BaNz> TheHackOps: Not really, even if that can be cool :D
[10:03] <TheHackOps> BaNz, What do you mean you have a reverse
[10:04] <BaNz> TheHackOps: reverse ssh from the school server to our server
[10:04] <MishkaEchoes> hey guys why does xchat seem to close on me randomly?
[10:04] <TheHackOps> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:04] <BaNz> to bypass firewall
[10:04] <MishkaEchoes> and is xchat the preferred client for irc?
[10:05] <Thelmaria> MishkaEchoes: irssi is awesome. Irssi+screen.
[10:05] <ksx4system> ikonia: after "fstrim /" it passes test
[10:05] <llutz_> MishkaEchoes: its commonly used and shouldn't randomly close
[10:05] <BaNz> TheHackOps: Like this we can work at home on the school server
[10:06] <TheHackOps> BaNz, What are you trying to acomplish
[10:06] <TheHackOps> an ssh tunnel?
[10:06] <BaNz> TheHackOps: no the reverse ssh tunnel is workin' fine i just want to connect by ftp to the server
[10:07] <MishkaEchoes> llutz, when I switch workspaces and come back I can't find it, it also doesn't show up in the unity bar on the left
[10:07] <TheHackOps> BaNz, Ohh thats east
[10:07] <MishkaEchoes> that's what I ment by randomly
[10:07] <lexflex> join python
[10:07] <ikonia> ksx4system: if you test again now, what happens
[10:07] <ikonia> ksx4system: as in create a file, delete it
[10:07] <MishkaEchoes> I'm checking out http://irssi.org/download#binaries
[10:07] <MishkaEchoes> do I grab SuSe version?
[10:08] <MishkaEchoes> or do I have to grab the source and build it?
[10:08] <llutz_> MishkaEchoes: use irssi from repos, apt-get install irssi
[10:08] <ikonia> MishkaEchoes: not for ubuntu no
[10:08] <ksx4system> ikonia: k, I'm doing the test now
[10:08] <MishkaEchoes> gotcha ty
[10:09] <Bituser_> Um
[10:09] <Bituser_> Hi
[10:09] <Bituser_> Confused :S
[10:10] <ksx4system> ikonia: it takes aaaaaageeeeeeeees to fstrim, 1min 10sec
[10:10] <ksx4system> ikonia: again, test passed
[10:11] <ikonia> ksx4system: so it's as if trim is now enabled
[10:11] <ikonia> ksx4system: even without doing fstrim
[10:11] <ksx4system> ikonia: but it passes test only after running fstrim :(\
[10:11] <ksx4system> :( *
[10:12] <ikonia> ksx4system: ok - but if you create a file, delete it, don't run fstrim, does it pass ?
[10:14] <ksx4system> ikonia: no, I did rm tempfile && sync to remove it
[10:14] <ksx4system> ikonia: it passes test only with fstrim
[10:14] <ikonia> ksx4system: very dissapointing
[10:14] <yann2> hello! I am running a do-release-upgrade -d on maverick like I did 10 times last week and today I get: "An upgrade from 'lucid' to 'precise' is not supported with this tool."  ... wtf? :(
[10:14] <ikonia> yann2: why -d ?
[10:14] <yann2> want to upgrade from lucid to maverick
[10:15] <ikonia> yann2: control the language and follow the documented upgrade procedure
[10:15] <ikonia> yann2: -d is "development" version, maverick is not a development version, which document are you following ?
[10:15] <ksx4system> ikonia: well, temporary solution will be adding fstrim / to cron as daily... + @reboot
[10:15] <ikonia> ksx4system: that's not really a solution to me
[10:15] <yann2> ikonia, without a -d it says "No new release found", -d used to get it to work
[10:16] <ikonia> yann2: you need to undertand what options do, not just do them blindly
[10:16] <ikonia> !upgrade | yann2
[10:16] <ikonia> yann2: those instructions will walk you through the upgrade process
[10:16] <ksx4system> ikonia: for me it is (crappy and temporary one but at least works)
[10:16] <ksx4system> ikonia: I'll try to compile latest git kernel too
[10:16] <ikonia> ksx4system: I will look into the trim situation though with these drives
[10:16] <ikonia> ksx4system: I don't think the kernel will matter
[10:17] <bharath> #fsmk
[10:18] <yann2> ikonia, thanks for the url /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  did the trick. Still I wonder why the former command doesn't work, had been working for months :(
[10:19] <ikonia> yann2: I told you why it won't work
[10:19] <nachos> Hi, is there something wrong with libutil in 11.10? I cant link to libutil. forkpty() is never found
[10:19] <ikonia> yann2: -d is "upgrade to development version"
[10:19] <yann2> I got that :)
[10:19] <ikonia> yann2: 11.04 is not a development version, neither is 11.10 - so the development version is 12.04
[10:19] <ikonia> yann2: so as you're error is rightly telling you, the upgrade to 12.04 is NOT supported,
[10:19] <ikonia> yann2: that's why it's not working
[10:20] <theadmin> It would work if you run "update-manager -d", as long as 12.04 actually exists...
[10:20] <theadmin> Which I doubt, honestly
[10:21] <nachos> is glibc broken in 11.10 ? forkpty is not in glibc
[10:21] <TheHackOps> k, people need to slow down and explain what their trying to achieve coz i get so confused sometimes
[10:22] <Jordan_U> nachos: Did you #include <pty.h> ?
[10:22] <nachos> yeah
[10:24] <nailora> for debian there is http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=blobby for popcon for a single package. is there something alike for ubuntu?
[10:26] <sasori> hello , any sources/tuts how to change the syntax colors when coding using vim/vi ?
[10:27] <theadmin> sasori: http://www.fleiner.com/vim/create.html
[10:28] <theadmin> sasori: Basically, look at the files in ~/.vim/syntax or (I guess) /usr/share/vim/syntax
[10:28] <sasori> ok tnx for the link
[10:30] <hack_> hui
[10:37] <jita> I am using empathy chat client, sometimes i just close the contact list window and keep the chat windows open. Now how do i restore the closed main contact window back without having to relaunch the application?
[10:37] <jita> i am using unity on ubuntu 11.10
[10:40] <theadmin> jita: Um, it should sit in the notification area, I think you need to click your username and then "Empathy Instant Messenger"
[10:40] <theadmin> (if I recall it right)
[10:41] <jita> theadmin, isnt there a way to see the running background applications? like the status bar in the right bottom corner which gnome had ?
[10:42] <izik> I have removed my windows and installed ubuntu 11.10 and now when i try to connect the vpn, it work only with the wifi connection, however when i try to use it with the 3g iphone connection it just say "failed to connect" the internet does work with the 3g connection..
[10:42] <jita> theadmin, and windows
[10:42] <izik> i am little confused why this can happen? it did work on winows with the 3g and vpn
[10:42] <theadmin> jita: I have no idea, they messed a lot of things up
[10:42] <jita> lol
[10:42] <jita> ok
[10:43] <justrite> torrents!
[10:44] <idefix> is there a way to see what programs you installed lately using synaptic?
[10:44] <theadmin> idefix: /var/log/dpkg.log contains such info
[10:44] <idefix> thx
[10:46] <theadmin> !pm | idefix
[10:47] <idefix> but that file only contains entries of four days ago on my PC
[10:49] <jasonmchristos> day 7 what happens ?
[10:49] <Sidewinder1> idefix, In Synaptic, perhaps look under File-->History..
[10:52] <iceroot> can you recommend mailclients speaking owa/webdav instead of evolution?
[10:52] <Sidewinder1> idefix, In mine, history goes back for years and lists installed, updated and removed.
[10:52] <plotino> hi everybody
[10:52] <plotino> im just updated to ubutnu 11.10
[10:52] <plotino> but im very stuck with the settings of the desktop
[10:52] <plotino> no notification area, no taskbar
[10:53] <plotino> networking no working anymore
[10:53] <plotino> maybe it's better to downgrade to gnome2
[10:53] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | plotino
[10:53] <plotino> ubottu
[10:53] <plotino> now im out of internet
[10:54] <dr_willis> see the webupd8 blog site for unity tweaks...
[10:54] <plotino> it's possible to install the gnome-shell
[10:54] <theadmin> plotino: Bring the network up via the command line
[10:54] <groundnuty> anyone using any tag based filesystem or any other semantic music managment soft worth of recomendation?
[10:54] <dr_willis> and ubottu  is a bot...
[10:54] <Sterist> anyone know of an app that makes graph? when i put "graph" in the software center i get about 2000 results with "graphic" / "graphical"
[10:54] <dr_willis> plotino:  gnome shell is esay to install
[10:54] <plotino> ok
[10:54] <theadmin> dr_willis: Not if you have no internet (therefore, no APT access)
[10:54] <plotino> gnome shell or gnome panel
[10:55] <dr_willis> Sterist:  what kind of graphs
[10:55] <groundnuty> Sterist: graphviz
[10:55] <theadmin> dr_willis: It has a heckload of dependencies
[10:55] <Pumpkin-> graphviz may not be exactly what you want. If you mean x/y plot type graphs, it almost certainly isn't. If you mean connections of nodes graphs, it is.
[10:55] <dr_willis> !info xplot
[10:55] <karl-augustt> since I install my ubuntu , I can dectecte my wifi
[10:55] <Pumpkin-> I think xplot might be what you want for x-y type data
[10:56] <deej1976> gnuplot ?
[10:56] <karl-augustt> do you think something about?
[10:56] <dr_willis> the spreadsheet in libreoffice perhaps. can do graphs
[10:56] <dr_willis> i thik
[10:56] <plotino> im in crisys ...
[10:56] <plotino> i cannot installa gnome shell
[10:56] <theadmin> dr_willis: Calc can, but it's not really intended for that, it's too powerful.
[10:57] <plotino> i can ping my router but no dns resolv with that shit of network manager
[10:57] <plotino> i have static IP
[10:57] <plotino> how to regain internet connection?
[10:57] <dr_willis> can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[10:58] <theadmin> dr_willis: (s)he has no internet, so nope
[10:58] <plotino> what is that?
[10:58] <dr_willis> googles dns server
[10:59] <plotino> i have tried to manually set the file resolv.conf
[10:59] <plotino> but nothing to do
[10:59] <plotino> i dont like the new update system of ubuntu :(
[10:59] <plotino> he left you without internet just for update
[10:59] <jasonmchristos> i asked you a question
[11:00] <jasonmchristos> day 7 what happens ?
[11:00] <plotino> to me?
[11:00] <theadmin> plotino: What does "ifconfig" show?
[11:00] <plotino> show the static IP correctly
[11:00] <dr_willis> new? same as its always been aş far as ive noticed
[11:00] <plotino> the problem is in resolving dns
[11:00] <theadmin> plotino: Oh, okay. Run this: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[11:00] <GeorgeJ> How does one auto-mount a ntfs partition at startup? Is there any GUI, or should I just go into fstab?
[11:01] <dr_willis> which is why i asked if you can ping 8.8.8.8 plotino ....
[11:01] <theadmin> GeorgeJ: fstab. Oh, and the type is "ntfs-3g", not ntfs
[11:01] <plotino> ping 8.8.8.8 is replying dr_willis
[11:01] <Chinta> (Newbie here) Does anyone know of a possible reason why I fail to connect via Pidgin to an IRC server different than this one? The error message is "connection timed out". I wonder what the problem could be, anyone?
[11:01] <jasonmchristos> dont use 8.8.8.8 it has blocks against racism
[11:01] <GeorgeJ> theadmin: ntfs-3g?
[11:01] <theadmin> GeorgeJ: Yeah
[11:01] <jasonmchristos> use your local isp nameservers
[11:01] <sven_> jasonmchristos, details about the blocks?
[11:01] <GeorgeJ> theadmin: Hmm, I'm unfamilliar with this, what does the 3g stand for?
[11:01] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: lolwut, no it doesn't, you have no idea what you're talking about
[11:02] <theadmin> GeorgeJ: ntfs-3g is the read-write NTFS driver, "ntfs" filesystem type assumes the standard read-only one
[11:02] <GeorgeJ> theadmin: Oh I see, thanks!
[11:02] <plotino> so dr_willis
[11:02] <Andy80> test
[11:02] <theadmin> plotino: Would you run that command I gave and try again?
[11:02] <dr_willis> plotino:  so try setting your dns server to be 8.8.8.8 like suggested earlier
[11:03] <plotino> where ? in resolv.conf
[11:03] <plotino> ?
[11:03] <sven_> Chinta, it seems it can be resolved, but not connected. are you behind some firewall possibly?
[11:03] <jasonmchristos> sven_: just going to have to try yourself post a racism webpage and see if it gets blocked on 8.8.8.8
[11:03] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: You're saying some nonsense. Please stop.
[11:04] <plotino> theadmin ifconfig?
[11:04] <theadmin> plotino: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[11:04] <plotino> ok
[11:04] <jasonmchristos> nupe dont use 8.8.8.8
[11:05] <jasonmchristos> use your local isp's nameservers
[11:05] <theadmin> jasonmchristos: Stop. being. an. IDIOT!
[11:05] <Chinta> sven_: Thanks for answering. Yes, I guess so. I am using an open network at the university. But the funny thing is that I can connect to THIS server.
[11:05] <jasonmchristos> and get to know the kids that work there
[11:05] <theadmin> !ops | jasonmchristos is being a troll, please, someone, get rid of it >.<
[11:05] <sven_> jasonmchristos, i just tried it with b&h and it resolves just like any other dns, so while there are good reasons not to use 8.8.8.8 this is certainly not one of them
[11:05] <theadmin> !ops | jasonmchristos is being a troll, please, someone, get rid of it
[11:05] <jasonmchristos> no im telling you the truth
[11:05] <ikonia> ok
[11:05] <jasonmchristos> they tried to block alex jones
[11:06] <Jonii> Hey, anyone have any idea as to why is my Ubuntu 11.10 automatically moving different windows to unreachable places, so that they are barely visible at all(you can see edge of them in the far end of some workspace)
[11:06] <plotino> theadmin thanks
[11:06] <sven_> Chinta, its the decision of your firewall admin where you can connect to and where not... maybe he hangs here himself :p
[11:06] <plotino> now it is working
[11:06] <theadmin> plotino: Hey no problem, GLaD to help
[11:06] <Jonii> I am not moving them there, they just somewhy go there
[11:06] <jasonmchristos> they said he was a bad guy
[11:06] <plotino> can you explain me the secret?
[11:06] <ikonia> jasonmchristos: stop now
[11:06] <ikonia> jasonmchristos: your only warning
[11:06] <jasonmchristos> said his website was racist
[11:06] <jasonmchristos> ok ikonia
[11:06] <theadmin> plotino: The secret? We just set your nameserver to Google's public DNS
[11:06] <dr_willis> plotino:  its not getting your dns servers.. if you are using static ip. set a static dns if you want
[11:06] <jasonmchristos> ill stop
[11:06] <theadmin> plotino: You could as well have ran "sudo dhcpcd" to set it to your ISP's nameservers I suppose.
[11:07] <Chinta> sven_: LOL. Well, I guess I should then really sit and study and look for procrastination elsewhere. Have a nice week!
[11:07] <jasonmchristos> just tell everyone to use 8.8.8.8 when thier local isp provides it
[11:07] <Mrokii> exit
[11:07] <Mrokii> oops
[11:07] <plotino> mm
[11:07] <plotino> and tell me
[11:07] <Jonii> Say, I have my workspaces in default setting, 2x2 square. I just had to get back my terminal that only had very small portion of it's lower part visible on the uppermost part of top right workspace :/
[11:07] <plotino> theadmin why my usual DNS didnt work?
[11:07] <dr_willis> my isp dns has other spammy issues.. so yes.. i use 8.8.8.8 instead of theirs
[11:08] <Jonii> Just a moment ago, before pressing alt+tab, it was located in lower right workspace, right around middle of it
[11:08] <sven_> keep feeding the google :p
[11:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: It wasn't set
[11:08] <dr_willis> plotino:  could be the router dident get the right info. or they are dow
[11:08] <theadmin> Oops
[11:08] <plotino> mm
[11:08] <theadmin> plotino: Yeah, could be they're down, or it wasn't set, or who knows what
[11:08] <plotino> strange because im using that dns on this machine now
[11:08] <plotino> anyway
[11:08] <plotino> i have fix one of the  problem
[11:08] <dr_willis> plotino:  your use of static ip may mean you dident set a dns...
[11:09] <plotino> yes i do
[11:09] <plotino> in the resolv.conf
[11:09] <plotino> but it didnt work
[11:09] <plotino> now it's working
[11:09] <plotino> ok
[11:09] <dr_willis> and that got overwriten by the network manager.,,,
[11:09] <sven_> plotino, use "dig ibm.com @ANY-IP" to check if ANY-IP does resolve stuff for you...
[11:09] <plotino> anyway actually im using network manager or not?
[11:09] <dr_willis> set the ip/dns in network manager. o
[11:09] <gunfire007> if i want to contribute in helping unity wht should i do >
[11:10] <plotino> i have done also
[11:10] <plotino> i have use nm.applet
[11:10] <theadmin> plotino: Possibly not, networkmanager doesn't care for resolv.conf
[11:10] <JapyDooge> gunfire007: apply at the unity project
[11:10] <dr_willis> double check it. ;) could be a typo
[11:10] <plotino> because it was not sohowing auto in unity
[11:10] <gunfire007> JapyDooge: ok
[11:10] <plotino> i dont like unity
[11:10] <JapyDooge> gunfire007: http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/
[11:10] <JapyDooge> :-)
[11:10] <plotino> so to get back notification area
[11:11] <plotino> i have to install gnomne-shell??
[11:11] <Blues-Man> hi
[11:11] <dr_willis> plotino:  notification area for what?
[11:11] <theadmin> plotino: I suggest you go with xfce if you liked gnome2
[11:11] <Blues-Man> do you know which file is used by Unity in order to get Startup Applications to run at startup?
[11:11] <dr_willis> i have indicator applets here for most things. theres docks with areas for the older apps that dont use the indicator applet method.
[11:12] <plotino> mm
[11:12] <Mrokii> Hello. How can I list filenames in a directory with a leading asterisk (so I can look for filenames where the beginning is variable).
[11:12] <theadmin> Mrokii: ls *whatever
[11:12] <theadmin> Mrokii: Simple eh
[11:13] <theadmin> Mrokii: Or, well, ls /path/to/dir/*whatever
[11:13] <karl-augustt> you can make more with ls -al
[11:13] <nachos> i dont understand why they shipped it with a version of gcc that works with nothing
[11:14] <ikonia> nachos: gcc in ubuntu 11.10 works fine
[11:14] <nachos> *shrugs*
[11:15] <dr_willis> not heard of any gcc issues in this channel that i recall..
[11:15] <Mrokii> theadmin: sorry for asking, it wasn't working like that before (or maybe I did something wrong).
[11:15] <theadmin> Mrokii: Well, that only works in bash, I'm not sure it works with other shells
[11:15] <Jonii> Anyone?
[11:16] <dr_willis> anyone what?
[11:16] <deej1976> !ask | Jonii
[11:17] <Jonii> I asked a question already, but sure, I can replicate it again
[11:17] <Jonii> Hey, anyone have any idea as to why is my Ubuntu 11.10 automatically moving different windows to unreachable places, so that they are barely visible at all(you can see edge of them in the far end of some workspace)
[11:17] <Jonii> I am not moving them there, they just somewhy go there
[11:17] <Jonii> Say, I have my workspaces in default setting, 2x2 square. I just had to get back my terminal that only had very small portion of it's lower part visible on the uppermost part of top right workspace :/
[11:17] <Jonii> Just a moment ago, before pressing alt+tab, it was located in lower right workspace, right around middle of it
[11:18] <Mariorocks1> How well will ubuntu linux run on a 1.65Ghz 400MB harddrive with 2GB of ram installed in the memory slots on a desktop computer?
[11:18] <Mariorocks1> Graphics is 2400xp
[11:18] <dr_willis> so it jumped from the middle of the screen to the top tight?
[11:18] <Jonii> mariorocks!, is that 400MB harddrive right?
[11:18] <Mariorocks1> yes
, on 400MB not well, if at all
[11:18] <theadmin> Mariorocks1: It won't, Ubuntu requirs 6GB to even install
[11:19] <Jonii> Or 400GB?
[11:19] <dr_willis> heh.. an old hd..
[11:19] <theadmin> Mariorocks1: Try, hm... I have no idea what to suggest you. SliTaZ maybe?
[11:19] <dr_willis> tiny core linux = 10mb
[11:19] <theadmin> Or that
, how do you have a 400MB hard drive lying around?
[11:20] <dr_willis> time to spend $30 and get a bigger hd...
[11:20] <ksx4system> theadmin: LOL 6Gb, you can do it under 1Gb (bare bones, no X, no desktop env.)
[11:20] <Mariorocks1> i am thinking about updating it in 2012 to a 1TB harddrive emachine computer
[11:20] <theadmin> ksx4system: The desktop Ubuntu does
, wait wait, 400MB to 1TB??
[11:20] <theadmin> ksx4system: I'm not talking about mininstall or derivatives
[11:20] <JapyDooge> Mariorocks1: not Ubuntu, but other distributions can run fine in 400MB
[11:20] <dr_willis> i run my whole system off a 32gb usb flash. ;)
[11:20] <Mariorocks1> retro0 i was talking buying a new computer
[11:21] <Mariorocks1> :P
[11:21] <Mrokii> Does anybody know where (besides mimeapps.list) I can find data about which application is used to open certain filetypes? For weeks now if I connect a smart-card (via a reader) the folder is opened in gedit instead of nautilus showing the folder. The same happens when I try to open the trashcan via cairo-dock.
[11:21] <ksx4system> theadmin: I think about minimal CD
[11:21] <nachos> whats the name of the firewall app in 11.10?
[11:21] <theadmin> nachos: ufw
[11:21] <dr_willis> !firewall
, ah ok.  But still, I'm surprised you've got a 400MB hard drive.  My first computer was a 486 with a 170MB hard drive, and that was 20 years ago
[11:21] <retr0> so  I'm surprised you've got a hard drive that size
[11:21] <Mariorocks1> i got the computer back in 2003
[11:22] <Jonii> dr_willis: yeah. It was barely visible anymore. For some reason, I haven't seen any window disappear completely, there's always some small trace left of them in some corner or side
[11:22] <zamba> hi there.. i have a ubuntu host running on vmware.. it uses lvm for its root fs.. i have now changed the size of the disk allocated from vmware.. how do i then resize the root partition?
[11:23] <dr_willis> jonii it could be some compix plugin/keycombo..
, Honestly, if you've got a 1GB flash drive lying around you could run it off that if you really wanted to.  It would probably run a little slow, but it would be doable
[11:23] <Mariorocks1> I am a ubuntu geek :3
[11:23] <retr0> you just can't install it, it has to be the live cd
[11:23] <dr_willis> home on flash.. / on the hd..
[11:23] <Mariorocks1> i have version 9.10, 10,04, 10,10, 11.04, 11.10 :P
[11:23] <dr_willis> well /boot on the hd..
[11:23] <Jonii> dr_willis: but as far as I know, the only shortcut to moving windows is ctrl+alt+arrow, which is unable to do anything like that
[11:24] <Mariorocks1> those versions are all on different live cds
[11:24] <dr_willis> jonii the grid plugin can do more i think
[11:24] <mndo> Mrokii, i can find that info on nautilus
[11:24] <Jonii> What's that, and is it installed by default?
, yeah, if you run it on a flash drive you'll get data retention which means it'll save your files and settings, so it might be an option
[11:25] <dr_willis> no idea Jonii  check the ccsm tool and see whats enabled.
[11:25] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[11:26] <Mariorocks1> one thing i think is awesome about ubuntu is the wobbly windows :P
[11:26] <dr_willis> Mariorocks1:  its cool for 50 sec.....
[11:26] <Jonii> You find that in software center?
[11:26] <Mrokii> mndo: I guess there is some stupidly secretive file somewhere that defines additional file-associations. It's really annoying how chaotic that system is.
[11:26] <deej1976> Mariorocks1 : you should look at http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
[11:27] <dr_willis> jonii yes. the bot gave the command to install it
, that's not just an ubuntu thing, you can get it on other distributions...it's a compiz thing
[11:27] <Mariorocks1> ok
[11:27] <Mariorocks1> Thanks
[11:27] <Mariorocks1> I'll try the usb flash drive boot of ubuntu. :)
[11:28] <dr_willis> its an 'show your friends, then disable it when they leave' thing.  ;)
[11:28] <dr_willis> wiggly windows made my wife  puke. ;()
[11:29] <esperegu_> anyone has a working xorg.conf for dual head intel integrated graphics (2600K cpu)
[11:29] <dr_willis> shd did like the zoom feature of compiz
[11:32] <Mrokii> /exit
[11:32] <gry> Hello! How do I show input locale indicator in gnome3 fallback, Ubuntu 11.10? It was in 11.04 but disappeared after the upgrade. I tried a web search without success. Thanks in advance.
[11:32] <gry> (Input locales switch ok but the indicator is missing.)
[11:33] <mndo> Mrokii, yes it's kind of a mess.. besides using nautilus and mimeapps.list i don't any other way
[11:34] <Jonii> also, for some reason menus and writing tends to stop responding, especially in firefox
[11:34] <Jonii> That is, programs randomly become entirely unresponsive to some specific input. The last time this happened, 15 minutes ago, firefox become unresponsive to text manipulation(marking, writing, having cursor in it), but you could still switch between tabs etc
[11:36] <Jonii> The earlier case I remember was how firefox became totally unresponsive to attempts to open menus from upper left menu bar thing
[11:39] <Lucio85> ciao a tutti
[11:39] <julianhille> hi. im creating a little gateway server with ubuntu at the moment. and i need a way to log every http request. is there something which doesnt require any a server like squid? cause squid is not an option due to some restrictions.
[11:39] <Lucio85> !list
[11:40] <julianhille> i only want to log destination time and ip
[11:42] <gry> ...
[11:43] <gunfire007> for my college project i want to make a derivative of  ubuntu so for that what should i follow
[11:43] <gunfire007> it would be very small working distro that's it.. nothing more than that..
[11:43] <iceroot> !remaster | gunfire007
[11:43] <Thelmaria> julianhille: You need to make a note of all the http requests passing through, you can use an apache forward proxy, then use the apache logs. You will, however, need to enforce the use of the proxy on the network (it's not transparent like squid could be, although i could be wrong).
[11:44] <JapyDooge> gunfire007: i would start here: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization :-)
[11:45] <dr_willis> just what we need  more ubuntu variants. ;)
[11:46] <deej1976> phew
[11:46] <gunfire007> thanks friends :)
[11:47] <gunfire007> iceroot: the 3 rd link is not working..
[11:47] <tarvid> after upgrade to Oneiric and updates DVDs don't mount
[11:48] <gunfire007> iceroot: now it's fine :)
[11:48] <gry> tarvid, Any error you are getting?
[11:48] <tarvid> mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[11:50] <tarvid> added/dev/cdrom      /media/cdrom    auto    ro,noauto,user,exec     0 0 to fstab
[11:51] <esperegu_> anyone has a working xorg.conf for dual head intel integrated graphics (2600K cpu)
[11:51] <iceroot> gunfire007: ok :)
[11:51] <gry> tarvid, Does the problem persist after a reboot?
[11:51] <tarvid> may be an upstream kernel problem
[11:51] <tarvid> yes a reboot does not help
[11:52] <gry> tarvid, what's ``uname -a'' output?
[11:52] <tewea> just iam using ubuntu10.04 and  i coudnt install adobe flash player?
[11:52] <tarvid> and I don't understand "sr0" should I change the fstab entry
[11:52] <tarvid> Linux tarvid-Dimension-8300 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[11:52] <theadmin> tarvid: /dev/cdrom is normally just a link to /dev/sr0
[11:53] <tarvid> thanks theadmin, that is indeed true
[11:53] <deej1976> tewea : have you enabled the partner Sources?
[11:54] <tewea> deej1976:yes
[11:55] <deej1976> tewea : updated the cache?
[11:56] <tarvid> my other Linux boxes automount DVDs
[12:00] <dyd> guys i have to search for anything containing the word "marco" in an hd, how can i do that?
[12:00] <CarlFK> dyd: find / -type f -exec grep macro {} \;
[12:01] <theadmin> Nope.
[12:01] <CarlFK> dyd: find (start dir)  (files) (look at the found file for macro)
[12:01] <theadmin> sudo find / -type f -exec grep macro '{}' \;
[12:01] <CarlFK> theadmin: good catch
[12:01] <theadmin> Quotes are important here, files may have spaces in the name
[12:02] <CarlFK> oh right.  I shoujld go back to bed
[12:02] <geirha> theadmin: The quotes around {} are not needed. find does not execute the command in a shell.
[12:03] <theadmin> geirha: It doesn't? Hm, well...
[12:03] <dyd> thanks
[12:05] <dyd> i receive this error... find / -type f -exec grep macro {} \;
[12:05] <dyd> ops sorry
[12:05] <plotino> hi theadmin
[12:05] <dyd> grep: /proc/sysrq-trigger: Input/output error
[12:05] <plotino> hi to all
[12:05] <plotino> now im in the machine
[12:05] <plotino> with ubutnu 11.10
[12:05] <plotino> but i suck this unity
[12:05] <plotino> how can i come back to previous desktop manager=
[12:05] <geirha> dyd: Yes, it'll have problems with special files like that. So you may either want to avoid decending into directories like /proc and /sys, or just redirect stderr to /dev/null
[12:06] <theadmin> plotino: You can't, gnome2 is no longer supported
[12:06] <Sidewinder1> !nounity | plotino
[12:06] <geirha> dyd: -xdev should help.  find / -xdev -type f -exec grep -F macro {} \;
[12:07] <plotino> but i dontn have notification area
[12:07] <plotino> no systray
[12:07] <plotino> i cant manage network-manger or truecryte once the have been open
[12:07] <dyd> geirha: thanks
[12:08] <plotino> how  to have systray in unity?
[12:08] <plotino> neither nm-applet is working now
[12:08] <nixmaniack> does anyone has this issue in notification bar at the bottom? http://imagebin.org/182950
[12:09] <dyd> geirha: this will find any folders named "marco", right? sudo find /media/HDD -type d -exec grep macro '{}' \;
[12:09] <theadmin> dyd: No, this will not work at all
[12:09] <theadmin> dyd: grep searches inside files
[12:09] <theadmin> dyd: What you want is: sudo find /media/hdd -type d -iname '*macro*' -print
[12:11] <dyd> theadmin: ok, and this will search in all subfolders too?
[12:11] <theadmin> dyd: Correct, if you want to disable that add "-maxdepth 1"
[12:11] <dyd> theadmin: thank you
[12:11] <conntrack> haha fudging port scans and snort is pissing me off now
[12:17] <dyd> thank you all cya
[12:18] <nixmaniack> anyone gnome3 expert around?
[12:19] <deej1976> !ask | nixmaniack
[12:19] <nixmaniack> deej1976, already asked :) didn;t get any replies so trying get attention!
[12:19] <nixmaniack> does anyone has this issue in notification bar at the bottom? http://imagebin.org/182950
[12:21] <skumara> nixmaniack: Is that jupiter icon?
[12:21] <nixmaniack> skumara, yes
[12:22] <skumara> i don't have this problem.
[12:22] <nixmaniack> skumara, but i get this kind of notifications for xchat also.. they are not getting stacked
[12:22] <bencc> is there a dummy mta I can use?
[12:22] <nixmaniack> or there isn't any way to read them all
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:24] <os_> g
[12:24] <os_> hi
[12:24] <awiden> Hi! Anyone else having problems with apt-get
[12:24] <dudism> yes
[12:25] <dudism> i got problems with apt-get on btrfs root
[12:25] <os_> i have a problem with xen 4.1.
[12:25] <dudism> fascinating
[12:25] <os_> linu-generic-pae is unstable with it
[12:25] <dudism> install a other kernel
[12:26] <awiden> anyone have a solution to apt-get servers being down?
[12:26] <gigenieks> Guys I want to make dual-boot Xubuntu and XP (xp for heroes of might and magic 3) I have 1 hdd, how should i continue?
[12:26] <tomodachi> awiden: you can switch to some other mirror
[12:26] <JapyDooge> gigenieks: heroes of might and magic 3 works pretty okay on Wine :)
[12:26] <os_> dudism,  how?
[12:26] <vcastro4ab> hello
[12:26] <dudism> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[12:26] <vcastro4ab> no hes is
[12:26] <vcastro4ab> xD
[12:27] <awiden> tomodachi: I'll see if I can find a list of mirrors...
[12:27] <awiden> thanks
[12:27] <vcastro4ab> it is caca
[12:27] <gigenieks> JapyDooge: when I launch it, screen goes black (doesnt have directx or something..)
[12:27] <gigenieks> I hear everything
[12:27] <BluesKaj> gigenieks, install XP first on a ntfs partition and then make an ext3/4 partition and install ubuntu on that
[12:27] <JapyDooge> gigenieks: you have to install directx in the wine bottle also :) if you like i can find you a guide
[12:27] <gigenieks> but dont see what is goin on
[12:27] <_et> I'm trying to find out the list of packages that are installed by default on a install CD ..
[12:28] <eric357> Good day!  Is there a backport of PHP >= 5.2.3 to Dapper LTS?  I can't find it if it's out there...
[12:28] <gigenieks> JapyDooge: I would appreaciate it
[12:28] <gigenieks> I have Xubuntu 11.04.
[12:28] <crizzy> eric357: dapper is EOL already
[12:29] <JapyDooge> gigenieks: do you know what version of HoMM3 it is? :)
[12:29] <eric357> crizzy: Yeah, I know.  customer wants wordpress update NOW and server ugrade in January.  I thought I'd ask
[12:29] <julianhille> hi. im creating a little gateway server with ubuntu at the moment. and i need a way to log every http request. is there something which doesnt require any a server like squid? cause squid is not an option due to some restrictions.
[12:29] <julianhille> i only want to log destination time and ip
[12:30] <crizzy> eric357: i still have one dapper server running too, for being too lazy to migrate it :P i've compiled php myself on it
[12:30] <sagaci> hi, when I do a sudo apt-get update on my oneiric system, I get the following gpg errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/730919/
[12:30] <gigenieks> JapyDooge: Complete (meaning it has both expansions: Shadow of death and  Armagedons Blade)
[12:30] <eric357> crizzy: Ah, now that's an idea!
[12:30] <JapyDooge> ahh k
[12:30] <JapyDooge> cehcking =)
[12:31] <crizzy> eric357: you'll save a lot of headache by simply telling your customer, sorry no can do, too old server and that's it =)
[12:31] <eric357> crizzy: Agreed... writing that email right now
[12:32] <os_> dudism, there is only (linux-generic images)
[12:32] <os_> i need pae
[12:33] <os_> for xen
[12:33] <skumara> sagaci: http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/
[12:33] <JapyDooge> gigenieks: you might want to install direct x first, and then homm3 :) but according to this page you only need to add some files to make multiplayer possible: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2628
[12:34] <BluesKaj> sagaci, you have a repos that has an unrecognized signature key, it's quite common with ppas or special application repos
[12:34] <JapyDooge> gigenieks: alternative is using Crossover:Games
[12:34] <JapyDooge> http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2134
[12:34] <JapyDooge> but not free (Except when you betatest for them)
[12:35] <gigenieks> JapyDooge: I don't need to install homm3 I have to extract it (I already gave it executable bit, so it runs) and I dont need multiplayer just single player. :)
[12:35] <JapyDooge> ahhh gigenieks then you need to install the appropiate directx version in wine :) after that it should run :)
[12:36] <JapyDooge> i think DirectX 7
[12:37] <sagaci> skumara, thanks, that solved it
[12:37] <skumara> sagaci: :)
[12:37] <gigenieks> JapyDooge: can' t I just install DirectX 9.0c?
[12:37] <gigenieks> http://ask.broathersoft.com/how-to-put-directx-9-on-ubuntu-88455.html
[12:37] <JapyDooge> might work also, normally DirectX is backwards compatible, but some game developers fail to understand that and require specific versions
[12:44] <pwuertz> hi, how can I configure unity2d? my gfx hardware is supported poorly and with this blur effect the main menu needs multiple seconds to open. Is there no way to configure it?
[12:44] <Besogon> Hi!! People, can you tell me, if 1.7Gb RAM ids enough for Ubuntu 11.10-64-bit????
[12:44] <crizzy> Besogon: yes it is
[12:44] <Besogon> Ithanks
[12:45] <theadmin> pwuertz: Log out, chose "Ubuntu 2D" in the sessions list, log back in
[12:45] <crizzy> theadmin: he is using unity2d
[12:46] <theadmin> Oh, well, I think you might want ccsm then
[12:46] <theadmin> pwuertz: ^
[12:46] <pwuertz> theadmin, ccsm does not seem to have any effect on unity2d
[12:47] <Besogon> crizzy: thank.. I'm writting from it which was started from USB-stick.. It seems to work slow. Hope It will be better if I install it on hard drive. Could it work faster from hard drive then from Flash or it it's gona be the same???
[12:47] <theadmin> pwuertz: Oh, okay... Sorry.
[12:47] <theadmin> Besogon: It will be a lot faster
[12:47] <crizzy> Besogon: most likely it'll be faster when you get to install proper gfx drivers
[12:47] <Besogon> ok
[12:47] <theadmin> Besogon: Live systems are never fast enough
[12:47] <soreau> pwuertz: What is the output of 'ps ax|egrep "metacity|compiz|unity"|grep -v grep'?
[12:47] <pwuertz> theadmin, ccsm is for configuring compiz, which is not used in unity2d
[12:47] <Besogon> OK. Thank to all
[12:49] <pwuertz> soreau, I'm not using this system right now, so I cant say.. but I found some small configure tools which enable me to "activate/deactivate" compositing.. but this had no effect on the blur feature
[12:49] <pwuertz> soreau, so I guess metacity or unity
[12:49] <soreau> pwuertz: We can't really help you if you're not currently using the system
[12:49]  * conntrack rules are buggered
[12:50] <pramod> hai... how to make my reliance netconnect+ modem in UBUNTU 10.10
[12:50] <pwuertz> soreau, well, you could tell me how to deactivate effects like blur on unity2d
[12:50] <soreau> pwuertz: Not without knowing what's providing the blur feature
[12:50] <pramod> can any one help me please
[12:50] <pwuertz> soreau, its not compiz
[12:51] <soreau> pwuertz: Well I'm not going to sit here and speculate
[12:51] <soreau> pwuertz: compiz can run in ubuntu2D session
[12:52] <pwuertz> soreau, as i said.. I tried ccsm and disabled blur.. or changing the icon sizes.. it had no effect on unity
[12:52] <soreau> pwuertz: chances are if you simply run 'metacity --replace' from Alt+F2 run dialog, blur will be deactivated
[12:52] <pramod> can any one help me in running my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[12:53] <pramod> can any one help me in running my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[12:53] <pwuertz> soreau, ok lets see
[12:53] <sweb> i want to simple way to login with ssh://user@domain to add password to this. for using in git
[12:53] <sweb> any one have a good way ?
[12:53] <webmind> useR:password?
[12:53] <pramod> can any one help me in running my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[12:54] <pramod> can any one help me to make my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[12:54] <pramod> can any one help me to make my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[12:54] <pramod> can any one help me to make my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[12:54] <FloodBot1> pramod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:54] <MorbidChimp> can anyone help me with a bash problem, I've checked google and forums but appear to be doing what I wish correctly. Its basicly just assignment of values to an array, which works under CentOS 6 but not on Ubuntu
[12:54] <jtr__> pramod: dont spam
[12:54] <jtr__> pramod: ya i can
[12:54] <jtr__> pramod: tell me , whats the problem
[12:54] <soreau> MorbidChimp: Try #bash
[12:55] <MorbidChimp> cheers soreau
[12:55] <pramod> jtr_: my computer is not detecting modem
[12:56] <jtr__> pramod: try lsusb in command line and tell me if you see the name of your mobile company in the list
[12:56] <mao> what is finger requests？
[12:56] <mandla> MorbidChimp, I dont understand your question.
[12:56] <pramod> yes i can see it is showing Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[12:57] <jtr__> pramod: good
[12:57] <pramod> jtr_: yes i can see it is showing Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
[12:57] <theadmin> Huawei modems need usb_modeswitch to get them to work
[12:57] <theadmin> Most of em anyway
[12:57] <jtr__> apt-get usb_modeswitvh
[12:57] <os_> hi
[12:57] <jtr__> theadmin: :)
[12:57] <Wolfer1391> help in italian pleace ?
[12:57] <jtr__> pramod: got it ?
[12:58] <pramod> jtr_: nope
[12:58] <pramod> i tried it too
[12:58] <os_> how to get a linux-generic-server-image 3.1?
[12:58] <jtr__> pramod: execute the command 'sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch' , did you?
[12:59] <skumara> jtr_ right click your nm-applet and chose edit connection - broadband - add and see you can see your modem
[12:59] <soreau> ! it | Wolfer1391
[13:00] <pramod> jtr_: i tried it too.. it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 348 not upgraded.
[13:00] <jtr__> pramod: means u already have it
[13:00] <jtr__> pramod: gimme a min
[13:00] <jtr__> pramod: http://veerasundar.com/blog/2010/06/how-to-make-reliance-netconnect-broadband-to-work-on-ubuntu-10-04/
[13:01] <pwuertz> soreau, ok, so unity 2d does use metacity... and no.. there seems to be no way of configuring it
[13:01] <pramod> jtr-: but mine is ubuntu 10.10
[13:01] <soreau> pwuertz: In that case, try starting compiz with 'compiz --replace' and see if things are better
[13:02] <jtr__> pramod: the wvdial method must work for 10.10...try it, worked for me in the past.
[13:02] <soreau> pwuertz: alternatively, try looking in gconf-editor to edit keys in /apps/metacity/*
[13:02] <pwuertz> soreau, ok, I didn't even think about using compiz on a machine without proper gfx support.. but thanks.. I'll try that then
[13:03] <wolfmitchell> I cant start Unity...
[13:03] <dr_willis> from what i gather in the next release (or updated to compiz) its somehow supposed to work eventually with non-3d acellerated hardware.
[13:03] <theadmin> I don't think gnome3 uses metacity
[13:03] <theadmin> I thought it uses mutter
[13:03] <wolfmitchell> It says I don't meet the requirements for it
[13:03] <dr_willis> gnome-3 uses mutter i hear. :)
[13:03] <dr_willis> but ive no proof of that. :) i imagine it can run on compiz also.
[13:04] <dr_willis> gnome-shell --replace
[13:04] <charlywaya> hi everybody
[13:04] <wolfmitchell> And Gnome with graphical effects wont let me open menus
[13:04] <pramod> jtr_: but it is not showing my modem over there and once i tried it too... it did not work :(
[13:05] <wolfmitchell> 2.1 second lag :O
[13:05] <os_> hi guys
[13:06] <wolfmitchell> Now it is 17.4s!
[13:06] <os_> when i execute $ sudo apt-get update
[13:06] <pramod> jtr_: but it is not showing my modem over there and once i tried it too... it did not work :(
[13:06] <os_> i get this error
[13:06] <os_> E: Malformed line 58 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[13:06] <os_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[13:06] <Matriks404> 772ms
[13:07] <warm> Hi, I am installing a software that is not in the official sources, and I want to know how to build dependences for that package?
[13:07] <charlywaya> is it possible to build a .deb package for 64 bit even if an application is built to use 32 bit libraries (third-party libraries available only in 32 bit version)?
[13:07] <pramod> can any one help me to make my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[13:08] <dudism> read the manual warm
[13:08] <pramod> can any one help me to make my reliance netconnect+ work in ubuntu 10.10
[13:08] <jtr__> pramod: did you make Stupid Mode = 1 in the wvdial.conf?
[13:08] <jtr__> pramod: did you reach that far ?
[13:09] <jtr__> pramod: and what is the output of wvdial ?
[13:09] <warm> dudism, of that package? The README only tells me to type: ./configure  --prefix=/usr   , but it occurs that many packages not found.
[13:10] <pramod> jtr_: i gave this in gedit of wvdial...
[13:10] <pramod> [Dialer netconnect]
[13:10] <pramod> New PPPD = yes
[13:10] <pramod> Init1 = ATZ
[13:10] <pramod> Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
[13:10] <pramod> Modem Type = USB Modem
[13:10] <pramod> Baud = 460800
[13:10] <FloodBot1> pramod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:10] <plotino> hello
[13:10] <plotino> ok
[13:10] <jtr__> pramod: don't write here use pastebin.com :)
[13:10] <soreau> warm: Most standard dependencies are in ubuntu repos, provided by packages suffixed with -dev
[13:11] <plotino> i dont get to have the icon of truecrypt on systray of ubuntu 11.10
[13:11] <Sidewinder1> !pastebin | pramod
[13:12] <pramod> jtr_: then what might be the problem???
[13:12] <jtr__> pramod: are u using gnome-ppp? or just wvdial?
[13:13] <pramod> jtr_: i tried both of them..  in gnome-ppp, it says modem is not detected
[13:13] <hipodilski> anyone has used some linux video / audio streaming software for more than 3000+ users
[13:14] <jtr__> pramod: add this line to your wvdial.conf - 'Stupid Mode = 1'
[13:14] <pramod> ya its already there under phone=#777
[13:15] <pramod> jtr_: ya its already there under phone=#777
[13:15] <warm> soreau, yes, I know that, but do I have to install those required packages myself? for there are many in need.
[13:15] <jtr__> pramod: ok, this is strange, worked for me and my friend uses it too, gimme some time to figure it out
[13:15] <tomodachi> hipodilski: well google does, with youtube, to some extent
[13:15] <soreau> warm: You can install them from ubuntu repos if they're available and yes, you have to do it yourself (as you're building software yourself)
[13:16] <pramod> jtr_: ok man....
[13:16] <muv> can anyone point me to a primer on ubuntu and sound? no gnome/gui stuff, i want the under the hood perspective. background: i have basically hard-migrated my home dir and cant get sound to work after boot... i've fiddled a bit with alsamixer but to no avail
[13:16] <jtr__> pramod: please check the /tty/USB--- line is actually your device as seen under lsusb
[13:17] <warm> soreau, Ok. I will try it.
[13:18] <jtr__> theadmin: can you help pramod ? I am out of ideas
[13:18] <soreau> warm: If the package were in the repos, you could use apt-get build-dep package-name to install the dependencies
[13:18] <theadmin> jtr__: Don't really feel like it, sorry
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> !sound | muv
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> muv, I hopr that helped. :-)
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> hope, even.
[13:18] <jtr__> theadmin: no problems :)
[13:18] <pramod> jtr_: nope it is not seen in lsusb
[13:19] <jtr__> theadmin: is there a way to see which device is which /ttyUSB ?
[13:19] <gigenieks> How can I divide my hdd so i can install xp on seperate partition on same hdd and then insert LiveCD to fix GRUB?
[13:19] <muv> Sidewinder, ubottu: thanks
[13:19] <warm> soreau, ah, the problem is it is not in the repos, and ppa is not available here for some reason.
[13:20] <mathi> hi
[13:20] <theadmin> jtr__: Umm... None that I know of. However! Verify that the modem is NOT creating /dev/sr* devices, some Huawei modems are misrecognized as CD drives
[13:20] <mathi> I installed Ubuntu 11.10, I would like to know which VNC server is the best to use? I's use UltraVNC from windows to connect to my Linux server ?
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> gigenieks, Perhaps this will help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[13:21] <jtr__> pramod: can u pastebin be the output of lsusb ?
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> muv, My pleasure.
[13:21] <compdoc> mathi, vnc4server works well. And clipbaord sharing works by running vncconfig
[13:21] <compdoc> *clipboard
[13:22] <soreau> warm: yea so you have to resolve the dependencies yourself. 'apt-cache pkg-name|grep dev' should help you find most of them
[13:22] <pramod> jtr__: the process is still running in the terminal!!!!!
[13:22] <jtr__> pramod: which one ?
[13:22] <jtr__> pramod: wvdial ?
[13:22] <jtr__> pramod: then try opening the web-page ( don't tell me u didn't do that before )
[13:22] <marthjod> !sound
[13:23] <przemo_li> any linux & programming channel?
[13:23] <pramod> jtr__: which webpage???
[13:23] <gigenieks> Sidewinder1: it is complety unreated link
[13:23] <jtr__> pramod: any sir, just check if your internet is working
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> gigenieks, Sorry, it was just a "shot in the dark".
[13:24] <darshan_> how to run settings-tester.pl script
[13:24] <darshan_>  ?
[13:24] <gigenieks> In other words: is it safe to use gparted and make another partition of one big partition??
[13:24] <pramod> jtr__: ya its working....
[13:24] <jtr__> pramod: jesus
[13:24] <usr13_> gigenieks: Backup your data, .... but, I've never lost anything.
[13:24] <jtr__> pramod: the terminal process is like your internet connection, close the terminal to disconnect...it was working all the time :D
[13:25] <theadmin> Ah so if this is the problem
[13:25] <gigenieks> will gparted use free space to make that 2nd partition?
[13:25] <darshan_> how to run settings-tester.pl script ?
[13:25] <gigenieks> usr13: .
[13:25] <jpjacobs> Hi there! I want to add a server to xinetd.conf, without taking down other services it offers, how do I go about?
[13:25] <pramod> jtr__: now it is ok.. now say me what should i do
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> gigenieks, It should be; that being said, if you're gonna' shrink/resize any NTFS/fat32 partition, just make sure that you Defragment it first; at least twice.
[13:25] <theadmin> jtr__, pramod: In case you need to be able to close the terminal after wvdial is ran, run it like "wvdial &disown" or whatever
[13:26] <usr13_> gigenieks: Yes
[13:26] <jtr__> pramod: net working now ?
[13:26] <darshan_> command to run settings-tester.pl script ?
[13:26] <gigenieks> Sidewinder1: I have Xubuntu NOT Windows now.
[13:26] <usr13_> gigenieks: But you can just use fdisk for that.
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> gigenieks, OIC.
[13:26] <usr13_> ... to create a partition from freespace
[13:26] <gigenieks> usr13: I prefer gparted
[13:27] <pramod> jtr__: i am presntly using nokia phone modem to fix out the problem ...
[13:27] <jtr__> pramod: is your reliance netconnect working ?
[13:27] <usr13_> gigenieks: I'm just a CLI sort of person...
[13:28] <jpjacobs> would service xinetd reload do what I want
[13:28] <jpjacobs> ?
[13:29] <onre> jpjacobs, yes it should
[13:29] <jtr__> pramod: the way u connect using wvdial is run it in terminal and leave it, and then open the browser and work normally, if a web page doesn't open then you have a problem !
[13:29] <jpjacobs> onre: so without stopping other services?
[13:29] <onre> jpjacobs, yes, reload should do that.
[13:29] <przemo_li> irc channel for programming on ubuntu?
[13:29] <pramod> jtr__: ya it is working in windows.... when i connect it in windows, and restart to ubuntu without disconnecting there, then it is working in ubuntu too.. but when connected directly it is not working
[13:30] <gigenieks> usr13: I opened gparted with "gksudo gparted" and it has grey option "move / resize" huh?
[13:30] <usr13_> gigenieks: new  (I think)
[13:30] <gigenieks> Do i need to unmount (that option isnt greyed out)
[13:30] <jtr__> pramod: when you restart from windows to ubuntu - does the device not get disconnected ?
[13:31] <usr13_> gigenieks: fdisk is easier  ;)
[13:31] <pramod> jtr__: no... i did not disconnect..
[13:31] <Angelon> Victorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> gigenieks, Yes, unmount first.
[13:31] <jtr__> pramod: how can you restart without getting disconnected ????
[13:31] <Angelon> victor
[13:31] <Angelon> jhafgia
[13:31] <Angelon> jbnajsfga
[13:31] <Angelon> jfa
[13:31] <Angelon> bnfab
[13:31] <Angelon> YOOOOOOOOOO
[13:32] <gigenieks> Sidewinder1: I can't (that partions is on which is Xubuntu and it is ony partion on my computer) so i have to it from LiveCD..
[13:32] <gigenieks> as i see it
[13:32] <ikonia> Angelon: stop it - if you do it when you are unmuted you will be removed
[13:32] <gigenieks> *only
[13:32] <pramod> jtr__: jlt.. force shutdown
[13:32] <Sidewinder1> gigenieks, Yes, Live CD; I thought that's what you were using.. Sorry..
[13:32] <gigenieks> OK going to LIve CD.
[13:33] <usr13_> gigenieks: just use fdisk
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> Heh,.
[13:33] <usr13_> gigenieks: sudo fdisk /dev/sda   (where sda is the drive you want to create the new partition on)
[13:33] <jtr__> pramod: are u using a virtual machine ?
[13:34] <bhearsum> is it possible to disable the automatic monitor detection in ubuntu 11.10? it keeps doing the wrong thing and preventing me from fixing it =\
[13:34] <pramod> jtr__: no.. and what does it mean!!!
[13:35] <jtr__> pramod: leave it
[13:35] <jtr__> pramod: so when you restart to ubuntu u cannot connect right ?
[13:35] <jtr__> pramod: what happens when u try ?
[13:35] <jtr__> pramod: i mean using wvdial
[13:35] <mathi> compdoc, well it looks like ubunto 11.10 has a desktop sharing utility, I don't have to install anything
[13:36] <compdoc> mathi, yes, it allows you to share the desktop, but someone has to be logged in already
[13:36] <compdoc> logged into the console, I mean
[13:37] <jpjacobs> onre: apparently reloading alone does not start the new service, unfortunately
[13:37] <mathi> compdoc, so if the computer is idle, and session is locked, I can't connect ?
[13:37] <compdoc> if no one is logged into the console, you cannot connect
[13:37] <compdoc> its desktop sharing
[13:37] <pramod> jtr__: device is not detected.. it says.. WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60.. Warning: section [Dialer Defaults] does not exist in wvdial.conf.
[13:37] <jtr__> pramod: a virtual machine is just a piece of software that allows u to run an OS in just a window ( that means you could run ubuntu in a window in Windows7 os, or vice versa)
[13:38] <mathi> compdoc, well if I open a session and never logout, no problem?
[13:38] <compdoc> sure
[13:38] <Akiraa> I don't understand why the following if-statement loops forever http://pastesite.com/27845
[13:38] <jtr__> pramod: change the first line written in wvdial.conf and replace it by [Dialer Defaults]
[13:38] <muay-guy> hey guys, I have a question... I upgraded to 11.04 but if i enter the python shell its still 2.6.5 ... shouldn't it be 2.7?
[13:38] <jason00> Does anybody know if Rhythmbox is back in active development?
[13:39] <jtr__> muay-guy: you can try python2.7 instead of just python
[13:39] <Pumpkin-> Akiraa: you need to use "test", more commonly called as "[" in shell scripts.
[13:39] <pramod> jtr__: ya i did it.. what should i do after changing it?
[13:39] <jtr__> pramod: do the wvdial again
[13:40] <jtr__> pramod: must work this time
[13:40] <muay-guy> jtr__: its trhere but I had already installed it in 10.04 ... besides... when I try to repeat a command or something like that I get ^[[B^[[A^[[A^[[A
[13:40] <Akiraa> Pumpkin-: thanks
[13:40] <Pumpkin-> if [ x$do_shutdown = "yes" ]; then
[13:41] <pramod> jtr__: that warning is gone and now... Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[13:41] <Pumpkin-> I'd recommend that as well
[13:41] <jtr__> pramod: reconnect the modem and try again
[13:41] <Pumpkin-> as otherwise if $do_shutdown is unset, you would get an error
[13:41] <jtr__> muay-guy: repeat please
[13:41] <Pumpkin-> sorry
[13:41] <Pumpkin-> PM
[13:41] <muay-guy> jtr__: I don't remember how I had installed python2.7 but it wasn't properly built
[13:42] <jtr__> muay-guy: dpkg-reconfigure python2.7
[13:42] <pramod> jtr__: the same is the error.. i think i should reboot now!!! r8?
[13:42] <muay-guy> that's why when I'm in the python2.7 shell and I try to repeat a command with the "up arrow" key I get stuff like "^[[B^[[A^[[A^[[A"
[13:42] <jtr__> pramod: no , thats not the problem
[13:43] <jtr__> muay-guy: do you see the >>> prompt ?
[13:43] <muay-guy> jtr__: yes
[13:43] <pramod> jtr__: then!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:43] <jtr__> pramod: thinking - wait
[13:43] <jtr__> muay-guy: and you can't type anythinh ?
[13:43] <pramod> jtr__:  okay
[13:44] <jtr__> muay-guy: did you do the dpkg-reconfigure thing ?
[13:44] <dmb_> hihi
[13:44] <dmb_> how do I kill this process:
[13:44] <dmb_> dmb       2120  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    10:07   0:00 [chromium-browse] <defunct>
[13:44] <dmb_> kthxbi
[13:44] <jtr__> pramod: do the wvdial after 2 mins of having connected your modem, sometimes it takes time to show up
[13:44] <deej1976> kill 2120
[13:45] <jtr__> pramod: and do lsusb again , when you see the entry then try wvdial
[13:45] <dmb_> deej1976: tried, but it won't die
[13:45] <jtr__> pramod: tell me if this works
[13:45] <deej1976> kill -9 2120
[13:45] <muay-guy> jtr__: yes I can, but it's missing some libraries which should be built in like bz2
[13:45] <dmb_> deej1976: tried, but it won't die
[13:45] <muay-guy> and I did run it
[13:45] <muay-guy> didn't seem to do anything
[13:45] <dmb_> I even tried 'sudo kill -9 2120'
[13:45] <Spartakus> hi, is urban terror game can not be played in single player?
[13:46] <deej1976> dmb: might be in zombie state
[13:46] <Spartakus> it seems that the game is one of the best available on Ubuntu
[13:46] <jtr__> muay-guy: remove the package completely and reinstall
[13:46] <jtr__> muay-guy: apt-get remove python
[13:46] <deej1976> dmb_: whats the parent process
[13:46] <dmb_> deej1976: how do I sever the brain from the spine?
[13:46] <dmb_> deej1976: how do I discover the parent process? (sorry)
[13:46]  * dmb_ tries pstree
[13:47] <jtr__> muay-guy: and then apt-get install python2.7 (remember to add the 2.7 )
[13:47] <muay-guy> jtr__: apt-get remove python or python2.7?
[13:47] <audionb> what's an easy way to draw a 1280*720 rectangle on my desktop?
[13:47] <Spartakus> it seems that urban terror only have some maps enabled for single player mode
[13:47] <jtr__> muay-guy: 2.7
[13:47] <dmb_> pstree lists some intersting things I think
[13:47] <dmb_>      |-chromium-browse-+-2*[chromium-browse]
[13:47] <dmb_>      |                 `-15*[{chromium-brows}]
[13:47] <deej1976> dmb_: 1st Q: use a really shape sword
[13:48]  * dmb_ breaks out the grinder
[13:48] <Stanley00> audionb: do you mean draw a wallpaper?
[13:48] <dmb_> deej1976: is there something like 'kill-all chromium*'
[13:48] <audionb> Stanley00: no i just want to draw a rectangle on my desktop, just to see what it represents on my desktop
[13:48] <Guest71697> ....
[13:48] <deej1976> Try "ps -ef | grep 2120"
[13:49] <dmb_> deej1976: nothing new shows up
[13:49] <dmb_> ah.. maybe...
[13:49] <dmb_> dmb       2120  1974  0 10:07 ?        00:00:00 [chromium-browse] <defunct>
[13:49] <dmb_> is 1974 the parent?
[13:49] <deej1976> yes
[13:49] <jtr__> muay-guy: worked?
[13:49] <ikonia> yes
[13:49] <Stanley00> audionb: just drag mouse doesnt work?
[13:49] <deej1976> dmb_: kill 1974
[13:49] <muay-guy> jtr__: I think I messed up because I started with apt-get reomve python before I saw your other message
[13:49] <dmb_> deej1976: it's dead :D
[13:50] <audionb> Stanley00: what do you mean? how can i mesure the 1280*720?
[13:50] <jtr__> muay-guy: its nothing
[13:50] <jtr__> muay-guy: and at the very least its repairable :)
[13:50] <dmb_> deej1976: seems to have fixed my problem
[13:50] <deej1976> dmb_: operation complete one severed brain from spine
[13:50] <jtr__> muay-guy: so are u able to run 'python2.7' now ?
[13:50] <Stanley00> audionb: why do you need the exact region like that?
[13:50] <dmb_> it's time for me to check in on Urban Dead :D
[13:51] <classical_> Hey its might not be a suitable channel for this kind of question but i will ask it anyway . . .  I'm looking for Centralized Access software or also know as PUM (Privileged User Manager) i have found some but not free solutions. If anybody using such kinda software pleas let me know which one thanks
[13:51] <muay-guy> if I do apt-get remove python2.7 now I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/730962/
[13:51] <audionb> Stanley00: i need to make a video of my desktop with this resolution (with camtasia) and i need to know how much place i'll have with this resolution
[13:52] <audionb> so how could i measure such a triangle?
[13:52] <audionb> such a rectangle*
[13:53] <jtr__> muay-guy: those packages aren't python's mess-up they are your audio packages!
[13:53] <ikonia> !info python
[13:53] <muay-guy> jtr__: how come those show up when I'm trying to remove python2.7?
[13:53] <ikonia> muay-guy: what version of ubuntu are you using
[13:53] <theadmin> classical_: Uhhh... sudo?
[13:54] <Stanley00> audionb: hmm, if I was you, i would record all the desktop and then cut them to the resolution I want...
[13:54] <muay-guy> ikonia: 11.04
[13:54] <muay-guy> im currently listening to Queen though
[13:54] <ikonia> !info python maverick
[13:54] <audionb> Stanley00: i need to know before hand where to place the things i'm recording
[13:54] <audionb> anyway i measured it with ksnapshot
[13:55] <ikonia> muay-guy: do you have any external or 3rd party software repos or PPA's configured
[13:55] <ikonia> !info python natty
[13:55] <Spartakus> !game
[13:55] <jtr__> ikonia: i think he must do the --fix-missing command
[13:56] <Spartakus> !help
[13:56] <usr13_> classical_: I believe that any more Priviledges afforded to the default Ubuntu user would be a breach of security.  Not sure what you are wanting, but just thought I'd throw that out.
[13:56] <ikonia> jtr__: no, it's a dependency miss-match
[13:56] <jtr__> ikonia: ok
[13:57] <muay-guy> ikonia: yeah I see in synaptic I have a few which were disactivated on update
[13:57] <muay-guy> upgrade, sorry
[13:57] <progre55> hi guys. I need to have gcc 4.3 installed on my oneiric, but it's not in the repos. is there an easy way to install it?
[13:58] <usr13_> classical_: ... and using sudo for admin functions is a very good way of handeling those other admin tasks that the default user does not normall have access to.
[13:58] <usr13_> *normally
[13:59] <jtr__> muay-guy: maybe this could help --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[14:00] <user81773> hello everyone. i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and it feels good to be back. really like the new desktop! i have one little annoyance  though.
[14:01] <user81773> the sound notification (top right) keeps flicking between mute and enabled... is there any way to change this?
[14:01] <jtr__> muay-guy: worked ?
[14:02] <muay-guy> jtr__: mmm now when I try to run apt-get update or apt-get install -f I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/730976/
[14:02] <usr13_> muay-guy: sudo  ?
[14:03] <muay-guy> usr13_: I'm sudoing
[14:03] <classical_> theadmin, usr13_  nope i want something that has web interface and policies
[14:04] <jtr__> muay-guy: log off and login and try again, thats the simpler way, but actually this happens when something else related to update like synaptic is still doing something
[14:04] <muay-guy> ok,... I'll be back in a couple of minutes with an update then
[14:04] <theadmin> classical_: sudo has policies, you can configure it easily to fit almost any need...
[14:05] <jtr__> theadmin: and is there a config file where these are defined ?
[14:06] <theadmin> jtr__: /etc/sudoers, duh
[14:06] <private_meta> I try to install perl for apache by using "apt-get install libapache2-mod-perl2", but it says the installation failed, error at hp-health, any idea what to do?
[14:06] <usr13_> theadmin: I think you mean that apt has policies, right?
[14:06] <theadmin> usr13_: No, you can define user priveleges in sudoers. How is that not a policy?
[14:06] <jtr__> theadmin: didn't know, thanks :)
[14:06] <usr13_> theadmin: Oh, never mind... I see.
[14:07] <M0TRN_th1> unity should be banned :( :( :(
[14:07] <lakatosi> Hey guys
[14:07] <ning> hi
[14:07] <lakatosi> COuld someone help me out with a flash issue?
[14:07] <szal> !ask | lakatosi
[14:07] <jtr__> lakatosi: shoot
[14:07] <M0TRN_th1> is there any ubuntu flavour that doesn't have any of the unity cr*p in it??
[14:08] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: you can always use gnome or kde !
[14:08] <szal> M0TRN_th1: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu..
[14:08] <luketheduke> all of them except ubuntu.
[14:08] <pthreat> Hi, I need to display boot options when the boot loader fires up to start a single user mode session,  I have ubuntu installed on my PC
[14:08] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: kubuntu
[14:08] <jtr__> szal: haha :D
[14:08] <M0TRN_th1> ok which one is the best that doesn't have unity?
[14:08] <user81773> M0TRN_th1: there is gnome (which is very similar to unity), or kde, or lxde....
[14:08] <lakatosi> If you visit http:\\www.youarelistening.to , you should hear a radio feed from the LAPD and ambiental music playing the in background
[14:08] <M0TRN_th1> which one looks the most like older ubuntu?
[14:08] <user81773> M0TRN_th1: try kde!
[14:09] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: all have different desktop envs , check their sites , but i think kubuntu  is the best ( only my opinion )
[14:09] <lakatosi> I can only hear the radio feed
[14:09] <user81773> M0TRN_th1: kubuntu = kde
[14:09] <M0TRN_th1> ok I guess I will try kubuntu
[14:09] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: kde + ubuntu = kubuntu
[14:09] <M0TRN_th1> as long as it doesn't have unity it can't be worse
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> M0TRN_th1, Why not just run 10.04? Like me. :-)
[14:14] <lakatosi> The embedded SoundCloud player won't start
[14:14] <M0TRN_th1> Sidewinder1, because it has all old libs that don't work
[14:14] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: it will still have unity :P
[14:14] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: all u have to do right now is go to your synaptic and install package kubuntu :)
[14:14] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, I can do this from normal Ubuntu install?
[14:14] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: yes!
[14:14] <M0TRN_th1> ok
[14:14] <M0TRN_th1> I don't know why Ubuntu decided to go down this path I know several who have dropped Linux because of this and switch to windows
[14:14] <lakatosi> If I try to listen to the song on SoundCloud after a few restarts it starts. playing. But it is a bit of a chore to manually switch to another song. Does anyone else have this issue?
[14:14] <M0TRN_th1> mentioning the w-word caused that?
[14:14] <dr_willis> windows 8 is heading down the unity like path also......
[14:14] <lakatosi> If I try to listen to the song on SoundCloud after a few restarts it starts. playing. But it is a bit of a chore to manually switch to another song. Does anyone else have this issue?
[14:14] <szal> !netsplit | M0TRN_th1
[14:14] <Spartakus> dr_willis, is there Windows 8? I think there were still Windows 7
[14:14] <M0TRN_th1> Spartakus, there is Windows 8 it is beta I think, and it sucks especially the Tablet edition
[14:14] <M0TRN_th1> looks like a poor Android clone
[14:14] <pangolin> !windows
[14:15] <M0TRN_th1> I wish there was a petition to abandon unity
[14:15] <dr_willis> Spartakus:  yes. and it has a very unity like look in many ways.
[14:15] <ryannathans> wtf is happening
[14:15] <sipior> M0TRN_th1: whinge elsewhere.
[14:15] <jtr__> ryannathans: google IRC netsplit
[14:15] <dr_willis> Theres just a current trend into creative desktop designs focusing on a panel of favorites, a minimal desktop + a few widgits and pages and pages of apps in a looooong listing you have to search.
[14:15] <Myrtti> !netsplit
[14:15] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: did you get the idea?
[14:15] <ryannathans> worst netspllit ever
[14:15] <ryannathans> it's like the whole internet just went off
[14:15]  * szal has seen worse
[14:15] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, I think it flooded off my screen
[14:15] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: what ?
[14:15] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, what you said
[14:15] <jtr__>  M0TRN_th1: i said did you get the idea?
[14:15] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, there were tons of join/leave messages and I don't think I caught everything you wrote
[14:16] <subshift> hi guys, i have an ettercap problem, can someone help me with that?
[14:16] <Spartakus> windows 8 start screen is funny :))
[14:16] <compdoc> does it say Ubuntu?
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> M0TRN_th1, I suggested that you run Ubuntu 10.04, as I do; no Unity (Gnome2), and will be supported 'til 2013.
[14:21] <deej1976> !nountiy
[14:21] <Boubakr> Salame
[14:21] <deej1976> !nounity
[14:21] <M0TRN_th1> Sidewinder1, yeah but the problem is that I have to back port tons of libraries if I do that
[14:21] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: unity is the default, and will stay,  but you can install something alongside unity :)
[14:21] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: you can visit www.kubuntu.org / www.kde.org to know more about it , see the screenshots
[14:21] <Spartakus> there will be no more start menu, but start screen :))
[14:21] <M0TRN_th1> Sidewinder1, I will try KDE and if I don't like it I will try 10.04 anyway
[14:21] <M0TRN_th1> I liked KDE back in the old days v3.x
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> M0TRN_th1, I guess there's a down-side to most things. :-(
[14:21] <Spartakus> I suppose Windows' new user interface will fail miserable, just like KDE 4
[14:21] <Spartakus> I mean KDE 4 when it was first introduced
[14:21] <M0TRN_th1> Spartakus, its not super different from win 7 if it's not tablet edition
[14:21] <Spartakus> M0TRN_th1, I am totally agree
[14:21] <M0TRN_th1> Spartakus, but still Gnome is better than either Windows 7 or Unity
[14:21] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: choose what you like, after all thats what open source is about :)
[14:21] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: don't like gnome so much when the creator of linux hates it :P
[14:21] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: i mean gnome3, no offence to gnome2
[14:21] <Guest63720> Hi all! How can i find out the User-Agent-String my mplayer uses?
[14:22] <M0TRN_th1> now let's see how KDE is
[14:22] <M0TRN_th1> I know KDE 4 was crap when it was new
[14:22] <Exopaladin> Xubuntu probably feels the closest to old Gnome if you're after that
[14:22] <M0TRN_th1> and I haven't tried it after that
[14:22] <Exopaladin> KDE 4 is a lot better than it used to be though, it's pretty usable these days
[14:22] <M0TRN_th1> Exopaladin, I'll give it a spin
[14:22] <abiss27> hey guys I made a standard user account in 11.10 and noticed that it did not ask me to encrypt that user as the other versions.
[14:23] <Guest63720> eight, ill just check them packets
[14:23] <Spartakus> M0TRN_th1, again, I am totally agree, but, I do prefer gnome classic
[14:23] <Spartakus> in my opinion, the classis is must better than the gnome shell(but again, it is just my personal preference)
[14:23] <user81773> i have problems with sound output. - the output works. but has cracks in it. sound-notification also shows sound as mute during these cracks
[14:23]  * Sidewinder1 Hits the floodbots with a large trout, for misbehaving. :D
[14:24] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: kde has changed alot, i think you will like the new one
[14:24] <compdoc> do not harras teh floodbots. ty
[14:24] <LogicallyDashing> I had network sharing set up quite nicely in 11.04. In 11.10 the same setup has the LAN-facing network interface constantly disconnecting and reconnecting. I've tried this using both Network Manager and iptables. I don't know how to diagnose this. Suggestions?
[14:24] <private_meta> i got a package, hp-health, an hp system health package... it seems broken, I can't install it and I can't uninstall it, but it breaks package updates, what can I do?
[14:24] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, the creator of Linux (=Linus Torvalds) hates Gnome3?
[14:24] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: yup, so i read in a blog, wait i'll send the link
[14:24] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: what are you using to do the (un)install?
[14:24] <Myrtti> hey folks, M0TRN_th1, jtr__, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <compdoc> M0TRN_th1, I only wish Ubuntu had Gnome3
[14:25] <M0TRN_th1> compdoc, doesn't ubuntu have gnome 3? I thought that was what GnomeShell was
[14:25] <private_meta> LogicallyDashing: tried apt-get, remove and purge, didn't work
[14:25] <jtr__> MOTRN_th1:  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/05/linus_slams_gnome_three/
[14:25] <compdoc> it has Unity
[14:28] <Myrtti> we've got enough traffic with surviving from the netsplits without this meta discussion
[14:28] <deej1976> !nountiy | M0TRN_th1
[14:28] <deej1976> !nounity | M0TRN_th1
[14:28] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: try issuing commands directly to dpkg. example dpkg -r hp-health
[14:28] <M0TRN_th1> compdoc, I installed Gnome Shell once on 11.10 beta to try if it was better than unity then nothing worked
[14:28] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/05/linus_slams_gnome_three/
[14:28] <private_meta> LogicallyDashing: how do I reinstall a package?
[14:28] <Myrtti> jtr__: seriously, dude
[14:28] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, thanks got it.. how cna I ignore join/split messages in xchat?
[14:28] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: you uninstall it and then install it again
[14:28] <private_meta> It tells me its in an inconsistent state
[14:28] <private_meta> I can't deinstall it as it tells me i have to reinstall it first
[14:28] <jtr__> there is an option, i am using a different irc, try its preferences/settings - or wait a sec i'll find myself and tell
[14:28] <DJones> M0TRN_th1: Right click on the channel name, I think there is an option to ignore joins/parts etc
[14:28] <pangolin> M0TRN_th1: right click on the channel name and you will see the option in the menu
[14:28] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: dpkg -P hp_health
[14:28] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: what now?
[14:28] <M0TRN_th1> DJones, thanks!! It was there "Hide join/part messages"
[14:28] <M0TRN_th1> pangolin, right
[14:28] <M0TRN_th1> much easier to read now ;)
[14:28] <private_meta> LogicallyDashing: weird, now it says dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove hp_health which isn't installed.
[14:28] <s_cd> help，archlinux,yaourt -S ,appear problem setting dbpath '/usr/local/var/lib/pacman/' (could not find or read directory)
[14:28] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: I guess that's what it meant by inconsistent state
[14:29] <theadmin> s_cd: Err, go to #archlinux
[14:29] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: if you want to do the work you could probably just manually remove all the package's files
[14:29] <private_meta> ah
[14:29] <cylonmath> Guys I have been using 10.04 , and i am new to Linux. If I dont switch to latest distribution , i can not upgrade my packages to latest version ???
[14:29] <private_meta> LogicallyDashing: typo, i wrote hp_health, not hp-health
[14:30] <LogicallyDashing> cylonmath: you can still get backports for a while but you have to enable that section of the repository
[14:30] <M0TRN_th1> cylonmath, only iif someone has backported those packages to 10.04
[14:30] <private_meta> LogicallyDashing: dpkg -P yields the same result
[14:30] <LogicallyDashing> cylonmath: and if you're patient you can most likely compile them yourself but at that point I'd suggest upgrading the whole system
[14:30] <Myrtti> cylonmath: is there a reason why you'd want the latest version of packages other than just wanting the latest version of packages? 10.04 does get security updates and it's perfectly ok to use
[14:30] <M0TRN_th1> cylonmath, but if you want to upgrade I suggest you try out a live CD first since there is just a *tiny* chance you might not totally love the new GUI!! ;)
[14:31] <compdoc> 11.04 is fine too
[14:31] <Myrtti> compdoc: but 10.04 is LTS ;-)
[14:31] <M0TRN_th1> compdoc, but 11.04 support will end sooner than that of 10.04
[14:31] <cylonmath> I ask because i am afraid some newly built software has a 'version' dependency probably. Thanks for your suggestions i got it !
[14:31] <compdoc> so? by then, the problems with 11.10 will be sorted
[14:32] <jtr__> compdoc: so optimistic :)
[14:32] <compdoc> heh
[14:32] <M0TRN_th1> compdoc, dunno, I'm not too suer
[14:32] <Myrtti> compdoc: and it's easier to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 than from 11.10
[14:32] <jtr__> compdoc: thats the spirit of a ubuntu user :)
[14:32] <Myrtti> compdoc: well, from 11.05
[14:32] <deej1976> Support for 11.04 will stop around the launch of 12.10
[14:32] <Myrtti> mrh, fail.
[14:32] <M0TRN_th1> Myrtti, you'll know that when its out lol
[14:32] <deej1976> !release
[14:33] <Myrtti> from 11.04
[14:33] <M0TRN_th1> ok so someone told me earlier how to upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu but it scrolled off with all the netsplit messages. what was it I have to install again?
[14:34] <pangolin> kubuntu-desktop
[14:34] <deej1976> M0TRN_th1 sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:34] <M0TRN_th1> thanks
[14:34] <Mayteck> helo
[14:35] <ArashM> how can I retrieve downloaded packages(with synaptic) from another computer is same version my ubuntu?
[14:36] <Eki_> Hello! is anyone familiar with PiTiVi?
[14:36] <pangolin> ArashM: the .debs will be in var/cache/apt/archives
[14:36] <private_meta> LogicallyDashing: k, found a way to manually remove it
[14:37] <LogicallyDashing> private_meta: congrats
[14:37] <private_meta> Any idea what might be the issue when I get the following error when SSHing from one machine to another, both ubuntu? "sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory"
[14:37] <kints> anyone experienced configuring xorg.conf manually  that can give me a help
[14:37] <kints> ?
[14:37] <ironhalik> Anyone knows why my audio driver makes the soundcard run at 100% all the time? After disabling it I get +30 min of battery time
[14:37] <ArashM> how can I retrieve downloaded packages(with synaptic) from another computer is same version my ubuntu?
[14:37] <ryannathans> oh my jesus
[14:38] <ArashM> how can I retrieve downloaded packages(with synaptic) from another computer is same version my ubuntu?
[14:38] <pangolin> !repeat | ArashM
[14:38] <deej1976> !repeat | ArashM:
[14:38] <dr_willis> ArashM:  the files are cached in /var/cache/apt/
[14:38] <xevil> are there still any major issues upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10?
[14:38] <pangolin> ArashM: the .debs will be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:38] <M0TRN_th1> ArashM, you can copy them across by hand from /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:38] <dr_willis> ArashM:  copy them over.. or set up apt-cacher-ng if you ahve a home lan and want to save on downloading
[14:38] <pangolin> wall of red ^
[14:39] <M0TRN_th1> e.g. with rsync: sudo rsync -avug root@firstmachine:/var/cache/apt/archives /var/cache/apt/
[14:39] <Mond> hello alltogether
[14:39] <Mond> I have a question regarding the package unattended-upgrades
[14:40] <Mond> this package uses apt-get for automatic updates
[14:40] <Mond> how can I change this to use aptitude?
[14:40] <private_meta> k, fixed i guess
[14:40] <Mond> because I dont want to mix apt with aptitude
[14:40] <scoopex> how can i install ubuntu server on fiberchannel disks in combination with LVM? (the installer currently has problems with multiple instances of a LUN which appear over several paths) is there a manual for this?
[14:41] <pangolin> Mond: they do the same thing
[14:41] <Mond> Yes, but I've heard that you shouldnt use both, apt and aptitude
[14:41] <sipior> Mond: makes no difference.
[14:41] <llutz> M0TRN_th1: just a note, rsync -a already includes -g
[14:41] <M0TRN_th1> mond I think apt was first recommended, then it became aptitude and now it's apt again and aptitude is deprecated
[14:42] <Jacks_Revenge> I just installed a new video card and my desktop does not fit my screen, any suggestions?
[14:42] <M0TRN_th1> llutz, heh, I memorized "-avug" when rsync was quite new, and used it since then
[14:43] <Poundo> I have NameVirtualHost xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9856 Listen 9856 in ports.conf and the same for 9857.  Also two files for the virtual sites one with this <VirtualHost xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9856> and the other <Virt…:9857>
[14:43] <Poundo> but i can't reach xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9857 in a browser how do i troubleshoot
[14:43] <Mond> ok thank you
[14:43] <Mond> bye
[14:44] <M0TRN_th1> almost done installing kubuntu-desktop, hour of truth
[14:45] <theadmin> Jacks_Revenge: Alt+F2, type in "xrandr -s 800x600" and hit Enter (or whatever resolution you want)
[14:45] <Jezzz> there a quick way to restart the launcher?  mine is kind of locked up
[14:45] <Jezzz> don't feel like restarting
[14:46] <ienasol> !list
[14:46] <user81773> for some reason my soundcard thinks that i remove/replugg the audio jack. how can i tell ubuntu that it should stop looking for that?
[14:46] <compdoc> Jezzz, is the launcher covering your apps?
[14:46] <Jezzz> compdoc:  sort of, a popup is frozen and covering apps
[14:46] <Jezzz> compdoc:  and the launcher won't hid
[14:46] <Jezzz> e
[14:47] <theadmin> Jezzz: Try using the "xkill" command and clicking the launcher
[14:47] <Jezzz> just an annoyance really, but I don't know the process name of the launcher
[14:47] <Eki_> in PiTiVi, I have an audio clip that's longer than the video I'm making. First of all, when I import it, about 50 minutes of silence are added at the end of the file. Second of all, the program doesn't seem to realize where the video is "supposed" to end - it just assumes I never shortened the music file to match the video (which I did). Does anyone know what can be done?
[14:47] <Poundo> can anyone give me tips on troubleshooting apache2 virtual hosts
[14:47] <Jezzz> nor how to start it again
[14:47] <Jezzz> theadmin:  k
[14:47] <theadmin> Jezzz: That works for killing any GUI apps :D
[14:47] <theadmin> Jezzz: And the launcher should auto-restart
[14:48] <ironhalik> so anyone noticed their soundcard hogging their batteries? :>
[14:48] <Jezzz> theadmin:  perfect.  ta!
[14:48] <theadmin> Jezzz: No problem
[14:49] <sipior> ironhalik: compared to the cpu and gpu, i imagine a soundcard would scarcely make a dent.
[14:49] <ironhalik> sipior: it makes like a 30 min dent in my battery time :) If I turn off the sound, according to powerTOP, it goes to sleep, while turned on, it killes my battery quite a bit
[14:50] <M0TRN_th1> theadmin, that used to have a shortcut like ctrl+shift+escape IIRC, is it possible to bring that back? (changed the X cursor into a skull)
[14:50] <sipior> ironhalik: well, don't do that, then.
[14:50] <ironhalik> sipior: I want to listen to music :>
[14:50] <ironhalik> while on battery
[14:50] <sipior> ironhalik: life is hard, sometimes.
[14:50] <theadmin> M0TRN_th1: Heh, you can -- search for "Keyboard Shortcuts", run that app, assign that shortcut to xkill
[14:50] <ironhalik> oh, this is indeed a true OSS respons of you sipior
[14:51] <theadmin> M0TRN_th1: I assign ctrl-shift-escape to this though: gnome-terminal -e 'htop'
[14:51] <sipior> ironhalik: you're welcome.
[14:51] <ironhalik> ;>
[14:57] <Eki_> oh, now, suddenly, the audio works as it should!
[14:57] <M0TRN_th1> theadmin, ok maybe ctrl+alt+delete then :)
[14:57] <M0TRN_th1> very satisfying combo to type on an app that's misbehaving
[14:57] <theadmin> M0TRN_th1: ctrl-alt-delete is set to something else by default
[14:58] <theadmin> M0TRN_th1: That shutdown dialog I beleive
[14:58] <M0TRN_th1> yeah I know logout, but I don't use that
[15:00] <M0TRN_th1> is that netsplit still happening so I can unblock join/part msgs?
[15:02] <ardithoxha> hey can anyone help me with EMESENE?
[15:02] <ryannathans> since that massive netsplit i can't get any access to my server in my own house, it errors on incorrect password, when it's correct it just asks for login again
[15:03] <M0TRN_th1> arf.. I instaleld kubuntu-desktop and rebooted and it came up with shiny new login prompt and KDE splash screen but when I logged in it put unity back again
[15:03] <jtr__> ryannathans: restart the IRC client
[15:04] <Pumpkin-> ryannathans: Level3 (a major internet transit provider) is currently having a lot of issues. This may well explain this.
[15:04] <deej1976> M0TRN_th1: Before entering your password you may need to select the correct session
[15:04] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: the shiny new login has an option where u must choose the KDE plasma workspace :)
[15:04] <M0TRN_th1> yeah that's right
[15:04] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, it works now
[15:05] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: there is a blue arrow pointing downwards, click it and see the options
[15:05] <ryannathans> jtr__: this is my actual system
[15:05] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: :)
[15:05] <ryannathans> i can't login to it
[15:05] <ryannathans> with mouse and keyboard
[15:05] <ryannathans> tried a reboot
[15:05] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, it works but its super slow to load
[15:05] <ryannathans> sshd refuses connections as soon as i get password correct, same as ftp
[15:05] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: good things take time, and this is the first startup, lot of default configs load
[15:06] <jtr__> ryannathans: sorry dude, i can't get one bit of your problem, but let me try
[15:06] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, it's loaded now and it's looking nice
[15:06] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: enjoy kde :) and if u can, get involved :  http://www.kde.org/community/getinvolved/
[15:07] <ryannathans> i can't log in, i get errors when password is wrong, when i get password correct it jsut asks me to log in again, the box is hot and hdds are maxed I/O
[15:07] <ryannathans> sshd drops connection on login, same as ftp
[15:07] <ryannathans> smb just died
[15:08] <dr_willis> i would wonder if theres not some nasty hardware failure going on.
[15:08] <M0TRN_th1> ryannathans, it probably can't look up your hostname or something
[15:08] <willh_> with xrdp, how do I increase the number of users that can login from 10 to 25?
[15:08] <jtr__> ryannathans: it's like die hard's - fire sail but only on one computer :P
[15:10] <QuikNik> hey all, i'm thinking about switching my one desktop to Ubuntu but I am not a big fan of Unity... is there any way to use Gnome2 like came default in 10.10 with the newer revisions like 11.04, 11.10 or the upcoming 12.04 LTS?  I just prefer Gnome2
[15:10] <M0TRN_th1> QuikNik, it's possible but the end result is quite sucky
[15:10] <M0TRN_th1> I am just trying KDE instead it seems pretty good
[15:11] <ryannathans> M0TRN_th1: this is LOCAL montior/keyboard/mouse
[15:11] <dr_willis> QuikNik:  id  suggest giving unity a chance, and trying gnome-shell, be sure to check out the tweak guides at the webupd8 blog site and the lists of indicator applets and lenses and quicklists at askubuntu.com
[15:11] <M0TRN_th1> ryannathans, did you try logging into text console with ctrl+alt+f1?
[15:11] <xangua> !gnome2 | QuikNik
[15:12] <ryannathans> M0TRN_th1: that's what i'm trying.
[15:12] <dr_willis> QuikNik:  you could always use some dock in unity if you wanted a nice panel at the bottom.
[15:12] <M0TRN_th1> ryannathans, probably its memory is full with some runaway script or program
[15:12] <ryannathans> on reboot i can't
[15:12] <Sidewinder1> QuikNik, Just install 10.04, it's LTS and will be supported 'til 2013.
[15:12] <ryannathans> smb starts and dies hunderds of times
[15:12] <hutch> Is there a way to add dash home to cairo docck and remove side bar?
[15:12] <QuikNik> I haven't tried 11.10 yet, has unity changed much since 11.04?
[15:12] <jtr__> !notunity
[15:12] <ryannathans> the system was only installed yesterday
[15:12] <dr_willis> QuikNik:  its improved a lot. and will get better in 12.xx
[15:13] <QuikNik> Sidewinder1, yeah or just say the heck with it and keep a 10.10 installation hjehe
[15:13] <QuikNik> or 10.04, yeah
[15:13] <M0TRN_th1> ryannathans, sounds like its screwed up try booting in safe mode
[15:13] <ryannathans> i can't boot in anything
[15:13] <jtr__> ubottu: when you say see !xyz what do you exactly mean?
[15:13] <ryannathans> brb trying something else
[15:13] <Loptr> How can i disable the bluetoothd serviced from startup ?
[15:13] <dr_willis> jtr__:  ubottu  is a bot.. and !command is a trigger for the bot.
[15:14] <dr_willis> !bot | jtr__
[15:14] <gringochapin> Hi all. Trying to convert a Ubuntu 11.10 desktop install to a server install. Any tips on what packages I should remove to completely get rid of the desktop and everything related?
[15:14] <jtr__> dr_willis: scary :D
[15:14] <dr_willis> gringochapin:  why bother? just dont start up  the login manager. :)
[15:14] <dr_willis> !text | gringochapin
[15:15] <gringochapin> The problem is that it's an old computer with a tiny harddrive, and would like to clean all that crap out of there. I would just do a reinstall with the server CD, but I don't have physical access to the machine. Just ssh.
[15:15] <ardithoxha> hey can anyone help me with EMESENE?
[15:16] <ryannathans> i managed to pull a root shell in recoer
[15:16] <ryannathans> i managed to pull a root shell in recovery
[15:16] <M0TRN_th1> ardithoxha, your doctor?
[15:16] <Loptr> How can i disable the bluetoothd serviced from startup ?
[15:16] <dr_willis> night all..
[15:16] <ardithoxha> hahaha
[15:16] <jtr__> dr_willis: night1
[15:16] <healern> Can someone tell me whether this is relatively safe or not? http://rarcrack.sourceforge.net/
[15:16] <ardithoxha> Emesene new version (2.1.1.9) cannot on TRAY?!
[15:17] <jtr__> dr_willis: thank god u didnt say i am a bot too :P
[15:17] <M0TRN_th1> healern, its open source so I'd say its relatively safe? but probably won't work unless the password is trivial
[15:18] <healern> M0TRN_th1, so you would trust anything ending in sourceforge.net? Is this a assumption on your part or based on something more solid?
[15:18] <M0TRN_th1> healern, a bit of both, projects have to be approved by SourceForge staff to be hosted there
[15:19] <hutch> is there a fix for videochat between empathy/pidgin or other and fb/msn users?
[15:19] <M0TRN_th1> healern, also it comes with full source so if it was dodgy someone would probably have flagged it
[15:19] <llutz> Loptr: set BLUETOOTH_ENABLED=0 in /etc/default/bluetooth
[15:19] <ryannathans> healern: if it's open sauce and has a few downloads, must be good
[15:19] <healern> M0TRN_th1, and all ending in "sourceforge.net" requires some level of approval by said staff?
[15:20] <M0TRN_th1> healern, xxxxx.sourceforge.net is a project site of project xxxxx, which has to be approved to begin with by SF staff
[15:20] <Loptr> llutz, thank you
[15:20] <M0TRN_th1> it will have a correspondign SF page on http://sourceforge.net/projects/rarcrack/
[15:21] <gorld> hallo zusammen
[15:22] <gorld> kennt sich einer von euch mit thunderbird+lighnting aus?
[15:22] <theadmin> !de | gorld
[15:24] <rabbi1> where can i find httpd  or apachectl ?
[15:24] <M0TRN_th1> rabbi1, in /usr/sbin?
[15:24] <rabbi1> if i have to run i got to sa /usr/sbin/httpd -s ?
[15:25] <M0TRN_th1> why do I get "Internal error" when I try to open Chrome .deb file from Firefox?
[15:25] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, is it possible to remove the messaging icon from the system tray in Unity?
[15:25] <M0TRN_th1> rabbi1, it's called /usr/sbin/apache2 and /usr/sbin/apachectl at least on my system
[15:25] <dr_willis> M0TRN_th1:  try to install it from the command line perhaps.
[15:26] <rabbi1> MOTRN_th1: thank you
[15:27] <rabbi1> i couldn't find httpd but good with apache2ctl
[15:28] <M0TRN_th1> dr_willis with what command? dpkg -i shows a lot of errors
[15:28] <Lens_flare> #JOIN acer-liquid
[15:29] <M0TRN_th1> dr_willis, never mind it worked after apt-get install libcurl3
[15:29] <Lens_flare> #JOIN #acer-liquid
[15:29] <healern> How do I install it though? Linux makes it so very difficult to install anything outside of its prepackaged stuff
[15:29] <Inkonsiderate> Hello, I'm relatively new to Linux. I was wondering if there is a method to take the instructions from this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111768 ||| and make it a simple 'one-click' process?
[15:29] <Inkonsiderate>  My intentions are to make some sort of quick deployment for slave machines in the even I have to do a clean install of the OS.
[15:29] <edbian> Inkonsiderate: reading...
[15:29] <dr_willis> M0TRN_th1:  i always use 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'
[15:29] <Inkonsiderate> *event
[15:30] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it says there on the site exactly how to do it?!
[15:30] <Inkonsiderate> edbian: Thank you.
[15:30] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, that page could be out of date, it's 2 years old
[15:30] <healern> not in a way that works M0TRN_th1
[15:30] <tensorpudding> you should go through step by step to make sure it works for you
[15:30] <conntrack> The net takes the piss
[15:30] <M0TRN_th1> healern, what bit doesn't work?
[15:30] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: It works, I used that page yesterday and it performs flawlessly.
[15:30] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, then you can write a script which replicates what the instructions do
[15:31] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: precisely, are there instructions on writing such scripts?
[15:31] <meowsus> When I add a new ppa repository and there is no designation for oneiric packages within the ppa, when i run "sudo aptitude update" I get 404 errors for the repository. Is the workaround for this to change the "deb" line within the .list file to an older version of ubuntu (like "natty" instead of "oneiric") or is there a better way to handle this?
[15:31] <tensorpudding> though getting to the link to download the file is hard to script
[15:31] <ardithoxha> Emesene new version (2.1.1.9) cannot on TRAY?!
[15:31] <dr_willis> !abs | Inkonsiderate
[15:31] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: I could manually add location for the file though?
[15:31] <dr_willis> night all.
[15:31] <Inkonsiderate> ubottu: Thank you veryy much.
[15:31] <tensorpudding> holy...
[15:32] <tensorpudding> this looks like a total hackjob
[15:32] <tensorpudding> installing an rpm?
[15:32] <tensorpudding> changing sh to be bash?
[15:32] <ardithoxha> Emesene new version (2.1.1.9) cannot on TRAY?!
[15:32] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: It's the only way that it works though. I tried doing the Alien conversion but it did not install correctly.
[15:32] <M0TRN_th1> ardithoxha, then use the old version?
[15:33] <tensorpudding> because their rpm is crap
[15:33] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: agreed. :)
[15:33] <ardithoxha> M0TRN_thl: where?
[15:33] <tensorpudding> sorry
[15:33] <healern> Like the line "tar -xjf rarcrack-VERSION.tar.bz2", and yeah I tried replacing "VERSION" with the version number
[15:33] <Universalrefill> someone have a link to a fix for my HD4780 not wanting to do dualscreens?
[15:33] <M0TRN_th1> ardithoxha, dunno, check their website I don't use it
[15:33] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, do they make a tarball available?
[15:33] <healern> M0TRN_th1,
[15:33] <M0TRN_th1> Universalrefill, did you install the ATI drivers?
[15:33] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, it might be worth disassembling the rpm
[15:33] <Universalrefill> Yes
[15:33] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: Unfortunately not, only .rpm
[15:35] <Universalrefill> the error message says that i cant have a larger resolution than 1680x1680 when i try to enable dualscreensa
[15:35] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, which version?
[15:35] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: that would be beyond my scope. I'm an artist, my typing is limited to command line rendering. ;) I will persue the advanced bash script guides. Thanks for your help.
[15:35] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, of maya
[15:35] <OY1R> can anyone with ubuntu 10.04 and forefox get http://websdr.sc-nm.si/ to work
[15:35] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: I'm running 2012 - the Linux slave is picks up perfectly with the help page I posted. so the hack-job works quite well.
[15:36] <tensorpudding> i assume that maya only supports red hat or something
[15:36] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: I was only concerned with making it a mass-producable/faster process.
[15:37] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: They say they do : well Fedora/Red Hat and Ubuntu for their more recent releases.
[15:37] <tensorpudding> it's likely your results can't be massproduced
[15:37] <Universalrefill> you got any idea M0TRN?
[15:37] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, is it possible to remove the messaging icon from the system tray in Unity?
[15:37] <tensorpudding> the instructions will only work on debian-based systems at best
[15:37] <M0TRN_th1> Universalrefill, try a lower resolution?
[15:37] <M0TRN_th1> dunno, maybe 1680x1680 is hardcoded
[15:38] <M0TRN_th1> I dropped ATI card when I had so many problems in Ubuntu (and linux in general), now I have nvidia
[15:38] <Universalrefill> Yeah well i dont have money to buy a Nvidia card so ^^
[15:38] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: Agreed, I'll make sure to keep my slaves on ubuntu. much less hassle than Fedora - the irony is that when trying to install the .rpm on Fedora - it wont work. ;D
[15:38] <fellayaboy> listen how do i get rid of a line of letters, such as YOUTUBE in multiple files.  say i ahve a bunch of mp3's that have YOUTUBE. how can i delete those  on all my files for example
[15:39] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, in any case
[15:39] <Sidewinder1> OY1R, The page loads, but I don't hear a thing; there is motion on the "waterfall."
[15:39] <M0TRN_th1> OY1R, you have to install some java sound plugin thing
[15:39] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: Sure, thanks for the help.
[15:39] <OY1R> Sidewinder1, does not even show the waterfall
[15:39] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, you can make the script work if you distribute it with the .tgz file from maya with it
[15:39] <MeanEYE> Is it just me or Ubuntu practically blocked most of nVidia cards?
[15:39] <llutz> fellayaboy: rename 's/YOUTUBE//' *.mp3
[15:40] <auronandace> MeanEYE: blocked?
[15:40] <tensorpudding> Inkonsiderate, having some kind of logic to fetch from the autodesk site would be tricky
[15:40] <MeanEYE> auronandace: Yeah, compiz wont start. Blacklisted the hell out of so many cards.
[15:40] <OY1R> M0TRN_th1, what java thing ?
[15:40] <Sidewinder1> OY1R, Did you allow java and java-script, if you're running Noscript with Firefox?
[15:40] <auronandace> MeanEYE: oh, my nvidia works fine
[15:41] <healern> M0TRN_th1,   Like the line "tar -xjf rarcrack-VERSION.tar.bz2", and yeah I tried replacing "VERSION" with the version number
[15:41] <fellayaboy> ok llutz thanks brb
[15:41] <healern> Would someone please help me figure out how to install this program, rarcrack?
[15:41] <MeanEYE> auronandace: Perhaps... but this is 4th card that I had problems with
[15:42] <Inkonsiderate> tensorpudding: True, but I'm a student - I don't have multiple licenses, I was only trying to leverage more render power by using only the satelite-nodes offered to me. I think I'll leave the file fetching manual.
[15:42] <M0TRN_th1> healern, what error message do you get
[15:42] <tensorpudding> that would probably be easier
[15:42] <auronandace> MeanEYE: are they all optimus cards?
[15:43] <M0TRN_th1> !shell | healern
[15:44] <M0TRN_th1> OY1R, try instaling java from the sun website
[15:44] <healern> M0TRN_th1, One way gives me, "Cannot open: No such file or directory", another just sends me to the next prompt line, but if that is correct, then it is instructions following that i am having trouble with
[15:44] <JunK-Y> ive an ubuntu 10.04.3 who refuses to boot, how can i choose which kernel into grub, cause holding shift doesnt seems to work
[15:44] <llutz> healern: "tar xjf rarcrack-0.2.tar.bz2 "  "cd rarcrack-0.2" "make"
[15:44] <M0TRN_th1> healern, if it doesn't print anything   it means it extracted the file
[15:44] <healern> M0TRN_th1, where does it extract it to?
[15:44] <fellayaboy> llutz using rename 's/YouTube//' *.mp3 did not work it didnt do nothing
[15:45] <M0TRN_th1> the name of the tar file without .tar.bz2
[15:45] <M0TRN_th1> type ls!
[15:45] <fellayaboy> i capitilized properly
[15:45] <M0TRN_th1> but you need to learn to use basic command line healern
[15:45] <M0TRN_th1> use that link and learn how to do basic stuff like ls, cd
[15:45] <llutz> fellayaboy: so you are not in the dir the mp3 are?
[15:45] <fellayaboy> i am in the same dir
[15:45] <MeanEYE> auronandace: Nope... one is 6150... other onr is something else... Still... XUbuntu
[15:46] <fellayaboy> remember thise files have other words in them .. like dr_martin king YouTube.mp3
[15:46] <healern> M0TRN_th1, when it says "cd rarcrack-VERSION", it wants me to put terminal in the folder that is created when extracting, right?
[15:46] <healern> I mean point it to
[15:46] <M0TRN_th1> healern, yeah
[15:47] <M0TRN_th1> healern, so you type "cd WHATEVER"
[15:47] <M0TRN_th1> and then you type make
[15:47] <M0TRN_th1> and then you should have a binary called rarcrack
[15:47] <auronandace> MeanEYE: i know it doesn't help you but i'm using xubuntu myself and my nvidia card works fine (but i prefer not to use compiz)
[15:48] <llutz> fellayaboy: works here(tm)
[15:48] <healern> M0TRN_th1, when I type "make" it says "rarcrack.h:25:48: fatal error: libxml/xmlmemory.h: No such file or directory
[15:48] <healern> compilation terminated.
[15:48] <healern> make: *** [all] Error 1"
[15:48] <fellayaboy> hmmm
[15:48] <MeanEYE> Anyway, to all Unity developers: Thanks for raping little hope that was left in you!
[15:48] <sipior> MeanEYE: classy.
[15:48] <JapyDooge> lol
[15:49] <M0TRN_th1> healern then type "sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev"
[15:49] <JunK-Y> MeanEYE: thats really constructive.
[15:49] <M0TRN_th1> and then when that's finishde try typing "make" again
[15:49] <healern> k
[15:49] <healern> MeanEYE, what is your complaint?
[15:49] <MeanEYE> auronandace: Unity is playing up on me. Xubuntu works.
[15:50] <healern> "playing up"?
[15:50] <M0TRN_th1> MeanEYE, jsut install SlackWare 1.5 ;)
[15:50] <MeanEYE> healern: No complaint, just wanted to let them know that they managed to loose my confidence. Although I really doubt they care.
[15:50] <auronandace> MeanEYE: oh, i don't use unity, never will (or gnome 3)
[15:50] <MeanEYE> auronandace: Yup... and that's how they look power users... but alas, this is off topic
[15:50] <healern> MeanEYE, that sounds like a complaint, how did they "lose your confidence"?
[15:51] <sipior> healern: let it go.
[15:51] <llutz> "power-users" whining about DE/WM ...
[15:51] <healern> M0TRN_th1, Ok, now it tells me  "gcc -pthread rarcrack.c `xml2-config --libs --cflags` -O2 -o rarcrack
[15:51] <healern> rarcrack.c: In function ‘crack_thread’:
[15:51] <healern> rarcrack.c:206:32: warning: comparison between pointer and integer
[15:51] <healern> rarcrack.c: In function ‘init’:
[15:51] <healern> rarcrack.c:283:6: warning: format ‘%s’ expects type ‘char *’, but argument 3 has type ‘char (*)[300]’
[15:51] <sipior> llutz: :-)
[15:51] <healern> rarcrack.c:317:9: warning: ignoring return value of ‘fscanf’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
[15:51] <healern> rarcrack.c: In function ‘crack_thread’:
[15:51] <healern> rarcrack.c:205:11: warning: ignoring return value of ‘fgets’, declared with attribute warn_unused_result
[15:51] <FloodBot1> healern: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <M0TRN_th1> !paste | healern
[15:52] <MeanEYE> healern: Well, Unity is just so broken that it's not funny anymore. I kept talking to people how Linux became great and then I get so many problems and I get embarrased.
[15:52] <fellayaboy> llutz my extensions were capped ..didnt see that.. whats the argument/command to make it ignore capitals... say rename 's/YouTube//' *.mp3  <--ignore caps on youtube and mp3
[15:52] <nailox> can anyone help me with apache2 config ?
[15:52] <M0TRN_th1> healern, anyway those are just warnings
[15:52] <M0TRN_th1> it should have still put a binary there
[15:52] <M0TRN_th1> try typing ./rarcrack
[15:52] <healern> MeanEYE, Well it helps to know what is going on with unity for myself and my own decisions
[15:52] <tensorpudding> take the UX discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:52] <llutz> fellayaboy: you have to use a perl-regex, rename has no "--ignore-case" switch
[15:52] <nailox> can anyone help me with apache2 config ? i need to enable allowOverrideAll
[15:52] <fellayaboy> hmmm
[15:52] <fellayaboy> ok
[15:52] <M0TRN_th1> nailox, it's in 2 words
[15:53] <M0TRN_th1> nailbox and you can put it in .htaccess in the directory you want to affect
[15:53] <healern> M0TRN_th1,  "RarCrack! 0.2 by David Zoltan Kedves (kedazo@gmail.com)", does that mean its installed?
[15:53] <fellayaboy> llutz one more thing.. how can i tell it to backspace to the next letter in the file...say martin luther king   .mp3 move it to martin lurther king.mp3  but for all files not just one
[15:53] <M0TRN_th1> that's often better than changing the global configuration
[15:53] <MeanEYE> healern: Well first of all, stupid decision to draw maximum of 3 window indicators. Windows sometimes don't show when you start application. Launcher is way too sensitive, I often click on menu instead of clicking back in chrome...
[15:53] <MeanEYE> healern: Should I continue?
[15:53] <M0TRN_th1> healern it means it's compiled
[15:54] <M0TRN_th1> you can run it from there
[15:54] <M0TRN_th1> or install it with "sudo make install"
[15:54] <healern> MeanEYE, What are window indicators?
[15:54] <M0TRN_th1> MeanEYE, we all know that Unity sucks and don't need to be told it again
[15:55] <MeanEYE> healern: Little "arrows" on the left in launcher. If you have more than 3 windows open, launcher just shows 3 ... So I tend to loose windows because I don't really know how many there are.
[15:55] <tensorpudding> MeanEYE, healern, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:55] <MeanEYE> M0TRN_th1: Glad someone is agreeing with me. I thought am the only one. People keep talking like it's great.
[15:55] <MeanEYE> tensorpudding: Am checking if it's possible to fix those... So it's not offtopic. This is ubuntu related directly.
[15:56] <sipior> MeanEYE: whinging and moaning is always off-topic.
[15:56] <robinsch> I got frustated with new version of ubuntu and had to switch to windows 7
[15:56] <tensorpudding> it's not visually possible to have enough arrows on the launcher for every number of windows
[15:56] <tensorpudding> it probably isn't configurable
[15:57] <M0TRN_th1> MeanEYE, you can install some other desktop manager e.g. kde or xfce
[15:57] <robinsch> now I am frustated with windows 7 and don't know what to switch to
[15:57] <M0TRN_th1> I think KDE was ok
[15:57] <MeanEYE> sipior: Am not whining... I am interested if those things can be fixed... if not, I'll leave this channel and ubuntu all together.
[15:57] <tensorpudding> windows not showing up when you start application is a bug, you should file a bug report on it using apport
[15:57] <llutz> fellayaboy: try "rename 's/ \./\./' *.mp3"
[15:57] <M0TRN_th1> MeanEYE, you can install KDE and try that instead, with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[15:57] <sipior> MeanEYE: i don't care either way.
[15:57] <MeanEYE> M0TRN_th1: I'll probably go with Xfce... Thanks.
[15:57] <fellayaboy> ok llutz brb
[15:58] <M0TRN_th1> healern, did you get that rarcrack to work
[15:59] <Sidewinder1> He's probably off cracking rars.
[15:59] <healern> no
[15:59] <fellayaboy> llutz it worked i believe i had to use it more than once....each time it just backspaced once i believe
[15:59] <M0TRN_th1> healern, well it compiled
[16:00] <M0TRN_th1> so now you need to run it according to the instructions on that page
[16:00] <fellayaboy> is that how that command works..one at a time?
[16:00] <llutz> fellayaboy: yes, it only removes 1 space in front of a dot at a time
[16:00] <fellayaboy> llutz thanks
[16:01] <acuarium> Hi All!!
[16:01] <healern> M0TRN_th1, when it said I need to be in root, to type "make install", does it mean \? Do I type CD to change to root then type "make install"?
[16:01] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, KDE works fairly well.. in fact much better than last time I tried it.. it's just a bit slow but nothing I can't live with
[16:01] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it means you have to type sudo in front, like I told you: "sudo make install"
[16:01] <acuarium> I am installing last ubuntu on a fakeraid 0, where should I install grub to be in the mbr?
[16:01] <fellayaboy> llutz no other easy way to just automatically determine the space and backspace or does that require some bashful scripting
[16:01] <acuarium> The installer suggests /dev/mapper
[16:01] <JunK-Y> how can i choose which kernel i wanna boot in? I wanna go in grub.
[16:02] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: happy to hear that :)
[16:02] <Jordan_U> acuarium: That sounds right.
[16:02] <llutz> fellayaboy: just a guess:   rename 's/[ ]+\./\./' *.mp3
[16:02] <fellayaboy> ok brb llutz
[16:02] <acuarium> Jordan_U: it failed :(
[16:02] <healern> M0TRN_th1, It just gave me the same message as that other command gave me
[16:03] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it doesn't matter try typing rarcrack
[16:03] <acuarium> Jordan_U: "/dev/mapper is not a block device"
[16:04] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: i began on gnome on ubuntu 8.10, been a long time since, and i changed to KDE only 3 months ago, so practically, i never got to seethe buggy KDE, only came to know about it from fellow users :)
[16:04] <Jordan_U> acuarium: I thought you meant it was /dev/mapper/something_else_here .
[16:04] <Jordan_U> acuarium: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[16:04] <fellayaboy> llutz worked perfectly
[16:04] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, I used KDE back in 2000 and those days, but then I used gnome for 5 years or more
[16:04] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: but you should consider the fact that Xfce is the new thing to be ported with the coming ubuntu versions as the default desktop env - so i've heard
[16:05] <fellayaboy> so what does {} + mean i know i use it when i use find at the end of an -exec
[16:05] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: omg, that dates back !
[16:05] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, you can choose fromthe grub menu if it is installed kernels you refrence tap shift to see it at starting up if not.
[16:05] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, well xfce seems like a slimmed down version of gnome
[16:05] <acuarium> Jordan_U: I am in a different PC (I am on the installer, no internet access yet)
[16:05] <M0TRN_th1> but if ubuntu makes xfce the default at least it's a step up from unity
[16:06] <JunK-Y> urlin2u: it looks like shift is ignored, cause im not able to go into grub at all
[16:06] <acuarium> Jordan_U: how it should looks like?
[16:06] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: ya, and linus did not hate the new look of gnome3 , but hated the fact that the difference b/w gnome2 and gnome3 was so immense, that their users were astounded
[16:06] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, what is the release your running?
[16:06] <JunK-Y> 10.04.3
[16:06] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, try esc
[16:06] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, the best thing I can think of about Unity, is that now we've hit rock bottom so it can only get better :D
[16:07] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: true :)
[16:07] <JapyDooge> 17:06 <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: ya, and linus did not hate the new look of gnome3 , but hated the fact that the difference b/w gnome2 and gnome3 was so immense, that their users were astounded  <<  agreed, it should have been an seperate project
[16:07] <JunK-Y> urlin2u: let me try that
[16:07] <sipior> jtr__: M0TRN_th1: this was off-topic an hour ago, and is still off-topic. Feel free to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[16:07] <jtr__> JapyDooge: actually , the gnome3 team parted ways with canonical long time ago ( atleast a few months ago)
[16:08] <healern> M0TRN_th1, ok if it is installed, I don't know how to use it, and it seems like it is not made for .exe self executing archives as well
[16:08] <Jordan_U> acuarium: Something like "/dev/mapper/isw_deebyaid_RaidMatrix_Linux" is what you want to install grub's boot sector to. blkid should give you a device like "/dev/mapper/isw_deebyaid_RaidMatrix_Linuxp1" as a partition containing an ext4 filesystem. Remove the "p1" from the end to get the drive rather than the partition and that is where grub should be installed.
[16:08] <JapyDooge> jtr__: yea, but imo it was a mistake to call it gnome 3
[16:08] <Poundo> I added a rule to my iptables how do I restart it?
[16:08] <M0TRN_th1> healern you just type what it said on that souorceforge page
[16:08] <acuarium> Jordan_U: got it, I will try
[16:08] <M0TRN_th1> just type rarcrack whatever-file.rar
[16:08] <M0TRN_th1> and watch it waste CPU cycles for a couple years
[16:09] <andyvy> anyone using Logitech G700 in 11.10?
[16:09] <Dea> Ciao
[16:09] <jtr__> JapyDooge: true
[16:09] <JapyDooge> jtr__: maybe they should have forked
[16:09] <M0TRN_th1> and healern .. if it's a self extracting exe chances are it's not a RAR to begin with
[16:09] <JapyDooge> i liked gnome 2.x
[16:09] <JapyDooge> now i'm using fluxbox :D
[16:10] <M0TRN_th1> healern, most of that kind of files don't contain the pr0n they purport to but just a trojan to infect your (windows) pc and a lot of random bytes and a fake "password prompt" program that just installs all sorts of virusses and trojans
[16:10] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: u should try the "plasmacon" widget
[16:10] <jtr__> JapyDooge: i'll lookup fluxbox :)
[16:10] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, I'll try it on my other PC with accelerated graphics
[16:10] <ChristW> Anyone experience with Parallels (on OS-X) running Ubuntu? I'm having problems copying files form the virtual machine to the 'Shared Folders' ..folder.
[16:10] <healern> M0TRN_th1, it is suppose to be a anime, it says AVI when I open it, I just don't have the password to extract.
[16:10] <acuarium> Jordan_U: it didn't fail! Thanks! I hope it boots now
[16:11] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: its just a widget that allows u to have terminal window ( no tab support though)
[16:11] <M0TRN_th1> healern, same goes for that. if it is EXE and asks for a password chances are that it will just be a trojan/malware installer
[16:12] <acuarium> Jordan_U: it worked!! Many thanks!!
[16:12] <healern> M0TRN_th1 Why would it bother with a password if it was just meant to infect anyway? And I have downloaded other animes this way that were just fine, and anyway this is linux, a .exe will have a hell of a time infecting linux, no?
[16:13] <llutz> fellayaboy: with find "{}" represents the found filename, the rename ... "[ ]+" represents "one or more spaces". so it is very different
[16:13] <andyvy> is there a logitech SetPoint fork for linux to configure mice? or anything remotely close to it..
[16:13] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it will ask for the password to trick you into thinking that it is what it says it is. but really no password will work and it will just re-instsall the malware everytime you run it..
[16:14] <M0TRN_th1> healern, of course it could be that there is a real anime inside as well but it's hard to know if there is or not since it's impossible to distinguish random bytes from encrypted data
[16:14] <healern> A exe can't install maleware on linux though, right?
[16:14] <M0TRN_th1> healern, only if you run it under wine
[16:14] <llutz> fellayaboy: rename uses regular expressions, which are mighty but very hard to learn. look here http://www.regular-expressions.info/tutorial.html for some info
[16:14] <healern> Well Id like to try to bash at it
[16:14] <M0TRN_th1> healern then type rarcrack FILENAME
[16:14] <M0TRN_th1> maybe it will work and maybe it won't
[16:14] <healern> M0TRN_th1, can a infection in wine, escape the confines of wine?
[16:15] <fellayaboy> llutz ooh ok ok
[16:15] <M0TRN_th1> healern, yeah it can
[16:15] <M0TRN_th1> but it is not super likely
[16:15] <fellayaboy> when i looked that the man page i didnt see nothing that says that..well at least for find i didnt llutz
[16:15] <austeregrim> healern also if you remove wine it wont be able to continue
[16:15] <urlin2u> healern, rootkits will run in any platform if you have a funky p2p your stupid to continue.
[16:15] <JunK-Y> urlin2u: esc doesnt work neither. i always see ubuntu with the 3 red dots.
[16:15] <M0TRN_th1> healern, install Windows inside a virtual machine (VirtualBox) and then run that crap in there instead
[16:16] <fellayaboy> thanks llutz
[16:16] <llutz> fellayaboy: "man rename"
[16:16] <M0TRN_th1> then if it infects it you can just delete the virtual machine or restore from a snapshot you took before you ran it..
[16:16] <healern> austeregrim, .exe would extract, even before wine, which I just installed today in a effort to find some program to bash at this.
[16:16] <fellayaboy> llutz
[16:16] <fellayaboy> ok
[16:16] <llutz> fellayaboy: but find also can use regexp. have fun to learn, long dark winter evenings are coming ...
[16:16] <M0TRN_th1> healern, just buy the anime or download it from usenet?
[16:17] <fellayaboy> llutz lol
[16:17] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, have you changed the grub timeout?
[16:17] <fellayaboy> hmm regexp  regular expression...first time i heard the term ..i only see it from the link u gave me and the google search i made when u told me to look at perl regexp
[16:18] <jtr__> how do we add/remove programs to/from a startup script? where is the startup script located?
[16:18] <JunK-Y> urlin2u: no, since im not even able to boot
[16:18] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, so you don't boot to the OS at all?
[16:19] <fellayaboy> llutz yeah find has a bunch of mumble jumble find -type f -name "whatever" (/. /; blah balhb alh idk
[16:19] <healern> M0TRN_th1, well some of the episodes of some animes are hell to find, especially the better quality ones, link to that which you call usernet pleasE?
[16:19] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it's called *usenet* and I'm not about to explain it to you, you'll have to research it for yourself
[16:19] <JunK-Y> urlin2u: nope, im trying to go in grub to be able to boot in single mode or to boot with a different kernel
[16:19] <d33ck> please help me setting up a virtual interface in ubuntu desktop 11.10
[16:19] <fellayaboy> regular expressions are what exactly to edit text
[16:19] <jtr__> healern: usenet is a torrent finder site
[16:19] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, !?
[16:19] <d33ck> i cant seem to assign ip addres for eth0:1
[16:19] <hellothisismynam> anyone knows the way to fix heating-up problem in Ubuntu 11.04 , plz help
[16:20] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: is it not ?
[16:20] <Pici> !piracy
[16:20] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, heck no
[16:20] <searching> hey I know it isnt a ubuntu question but I have minGW(gcc) on XP and compile the source but when I run it the result disepear very quiqly
[16:20] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: ubottu gets angry so easily :P :P
[16:20] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
[16:20] <milen8204> Any one familiar whit the program docky ??
[16:20] <llutz> fellayaboy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression
[16:20] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, does it mention "torrent finder site" in there? if you think Usenet is a torrent finder site, or even pirate site, or even a site, think again
[16:20] <fellayaboy> llutz nevermind i found it on that site
[16:21] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, so what is it you want a bootable OS I assume?
[16:21] <fellayaboy> llutz thanks
[16:21] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: i confused it with usenext, my bad
[16:21] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[16:21] <urlin2u> milen8204, pretty much whats up.
[16:21] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Isn't the chat on #ubuntu-jp recorded now?
[16:21] <JunK-Y> urlin2u: ya, it was booting fine until i did an apt-get upgrade :(
[16:21] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: turns out usenext is also something different
[16:22] <healern> urlin2u, So if you have already have installed wine, and run a .exe that may or may not be suspicious, how do you confirm whether any damage has been done? And if so, mitigate said damage?
[16:22] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, usenet existed hundreds of years before even torrents were thought of
[16:22] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: ok, i'll look it up
[16:22] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, are you dual booting and is the ubuntu a wubi?
[16:22] <JunK-Y> no dual boot, no wubi, regular stand-alone install
[16:23] <urlin2u> healern, never ran wine I wold not know.
[16:23] <urlin2u> would*
[16:24] <healern> M0TRN_th1, So if you have already have installed wine, and run a .exe that may or may not be suspicious, how do you confirm whether any damage has been done? And if so, mitigate said damage?
[16:24] <urlin2u> JunK-Y, boot a live cd and run this script and pastebin the whole results.txt  this wil lshow more info that should get us to an answer.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[16:24] <Jordan_U> acuarium: You're welcome :)
[16:25] <M0TRN_th1> healern, that's a nearly impossible task, which is why you should never do that in the first place
[16:25] <M0TRN_th1> healern, of course a start would be to remove your entire .wine directory but it's no guarantee as wine programs can access the entire file system (with your user account)
[16:26] <jfroebe> Does anyone know of a mp3 player/organizer that will copy specified mp3 files to a usb thumbdrive without too much hassle? Currently, I'm copying the files through Nautilus then I run 'fatsort' to sort the fat tables.
[16:26] <urlin2u> healern, there are various av scanners for linux but if you have not ran your user password your probably safe, that is the key here root access generally.
[16:26] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: can u tell me a software that uses usenet ?
[16:26] <jfroebe> the thumbdrive is for playing in the car
[16:26] <healern> austeregrim, if I remove wine, would that stop it, then if I were to reinstall wine, would any infection within still be gone? Or could some residue sit around waiting for wine to come back?
[16:26] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, hellanzb?
[16:26] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: i mean through which i can get connected to the 'usenet'
[16:26] <milen8204> urlin2u, did you try to work whit it on new gnome-shell
[16:27] <JunK-Y> when im trying to boot the 11.04 ubuntu install cd, im getting unable to find a medium containing a live file system. theres no problem with a regular sata drive, but not with the SSD drive, any ideas why&
[16:27] <llutz> jtr__: slrn, knode and much more
[16:27] <urlin2u> milen8204, what I have posted no questions?
[16:27] <jtr__> llutz: for kde?
[16:27] <jtr__> llutz: knode?
[16:27] <healern> urlin2u, Well finding a AV for linux seems a harder task then finding a PW cracker for it
[16:27] <llutz> jtr__: its a kde/qt app
[16:28] <jtr__> llutz: u talking about knode right ?
[16:28] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, you need access to a usenet server, sometimes your ISP will provide one but if you want access to the binary groups you most likely need a paid one
[16:28] <milen8204> urlin2u, I said Any one familiar whit the program docky ?? you said milen8204, pretty much whats up. then I asked urlin2u, did you try to work whit it on new gnome-shell
[16:28] <healern> urlin2u, All sorts of ones I have tried have had issues of one kind or another, and the one I did find that works has now expired
[16:28] <urlin2u> healern, if you have to crack the password and you can't confirm its legitimacy your acting stupid.
[16:28] <llutz> jtr__: or is it merged ito kmail now? idk. there are plenty nntp-clients
[16:29] <jtr__> MOTRN_th1 : u just made usenet sad :( , but nevertheless i wanna try
[16:29] <deej1976> !clamav
[16:29] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, why are you sad?
[16:29] <jtr__> MOTRN_th1 : the charged idea i hate
[16:29] <deej1976> !info clamav
[16:29] <g0rs> i have an error when i start tor ,  it is not starting after i installed it.  can anybody take a look ?
[16:29] <urlin2u> milen8204, sorry lol no I doubt the gnome shell is the place for it the bottom, top, right and left parts of the screen are already moving.
[16:30] <happy> plz help me to configure putty n firefox as to open facebook
[16:30] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: llutz: nntp clients , is that what you call them?
[16:30] <happy> facebook is blocked here
[16:30] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, yes but if you want to download binary files look into nzb
[16:30] <urlin2u> milen8204, the top is stationary but the screen changes to access stuff in gnome 3.
[16:30] <llutz> jtr__: if we talk about usenet and not things like useneXt, yes
[16:30] <jtr__> llutz: ok
[16:31] <happy> ??
[16:31] <pO_omf> Bonjour
[16:31] <happy> ney idea guys?
[16:31] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: apt-get nzb ?
[16:31] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, no google it
[16:31] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: ok
[16:31] <milen8204> urlin2u, I cant active intelligent hide expanded effect and more options in gnome 3
[16:31] <M0TRN_th1> the software I use for downloading it is called hellanzb but it's not very intuitive if you're a beginner
[16:32] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, hellanzb is in ubuntu so you can apt-get install that
[16:32] <M0TRN_th1> but you still need a server and a place to get nzb files, google for that
[16:33] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: ok, i'll do that i don't know how i will tackle the 'not-very-intuitive' part though
[16:34] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169749
[16:34] <urlin2u> milen8204, not sure what you mean I would look on the web, gnome 3 can be tweaked but you would have to go into the controlling files it is not a click and fix sort of situation as far as I know, your not being real specific here as well.
[16:35] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: i just did an apt-get install
[16:35] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: do i still need to do that /
[16:35] <healern> urlin2u, the point is that I can't travel back in time, so if you might help me with my current situation rather then criticize me for what I should have done differently, that would be appreciated
[16:35] <jtr__> M?
[16:35] <milen8204> urlin2u,  How I cant set up the gnome panel and Docky in gnome3 ?
[16:35] <fellayaboy> llutz was 's/youtube//' an awk comand/expression?
[16:36] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, you need to research the rest by yourself
[16:36] <llutz> fellayaboy: perl/sed-syntax
[16:36] <fellayaboy> i see llutz
[16:36] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: ok
[16:36] <M0TRN_th1> jtr__, don't want to get too close to the channel rule edges
[16:36] <urlin2u> milen8204, I don't think it is worth it to be honest.
[16:38] <jtr__> M0TRN_th1: no problemo, i'll query you if i need help on that :), thanks for introducing me to the concept anyway :)
[16:38] <urlin2u> healern, I was just staing the obvious don't take it personally, we are not here to fix things you have done by not thinking through what your doing, if you acted without thinking then realize that.
[16:39] <M0TRN_th1> healern, chances are that you're fine if you just delete the .wine directory
[16:39] <M0TRN_th1> most Windows malware won't be Linux-aware
[16:39] <searching> how to make screenshots with Lubuntu?
[16:39] <healern> M0TRN_th1, if there was said malware, could it hang around waiting for wine to come back?
[16:40] <M0TRN_th1> it would be stored inside .wine
[16:40] <M0TRN_th1> so if you open aterminal and type "rm -rf .wine" it should be gone for good
[16:40] <M0TRN_th1> and then you can use wine without worrying
[16:41] <SJCommander> Hello folks, newbie here. I have been a windows user for a while now, and I´ve been feeling the Ubuntu itch again. I want to install it as dualboot again, but I hate how GRUB replaces my windows MBR. Is it possible to install ubuntu, then re-install the WinMBR?
[16:42] <M0TRN_th1> SJCommander, if you do that you won't be able to boot Ubuntu
[16:42] <SJCommander> Shit. I suspected as much.
[16:42] <healern> M0TRN_th1,  But there is a theoretical possibility of a infection coming from wine to general linux, even if I didn't use sudo?
[16:42] <llutz> SJCommander: just let ubuntu write grub into partition,  not mbr
[16:42] <Gnea> SJCommander: that's silly, grub is superior to ntloadr.
[16:43] <Gnea> SJCommander: if you wanted to have ntloadr do it, then don't install ubuntu to a real partition
[16:43] <M0TRN_th1> healern, theoretical but it's small
[16:43] <M0TRN_th1> I wouldn't worry about it unless you work for NSA or something
[16:43] <SJCommander> Gnea: Depends on who you´re asking, haha. I know Windows guys that would stand by ntloadr forever :-P
[16:43] <Gnea> healern: linux itself wouldn't become infected, it would just pass the virus off to any other connected wintendo systems
[16:43] <healern> M0TRN_th1, Does that same small risk exist with my browser, a infection spreading from a random bad webpage to linux itself?
[16:43] <Gnea> SJCommander: yes, well, when all they care about is money... ;)
[16:44] <M0TRN_th1> healern, yes
[16:44] <healern> or even just limited to the browser
[16:44] <healern> That is something different then I was told before, ok
[16:44] <SJCommander> So, is the ¨install GRUB to partition¨ available during the install? I cant recall seeing it before.
[16:44] <M0TRN_th1> healern, again the chances are very small for that to happen when you run linux
[16:44] <Gnea> SJCommander: should be, if you choose the advanced route
[16:44] <healern> Gnea, but if I have a dual boot set up, could it cross over?
[16:45] <Gnea> healern: how would it?
[16:45] <healern> I don't know, that is why I ask
[16:45] <urlin2u> healern, don't just believe what you hear including here investigate using a correct inquiry method.
[16:45] <M0TRN_th1> Gnea, by exploiting a vulnerability in the browser
[16:46] <Gnea> M0TRN_th1: a vulnerability that will automagically mount all ntfs partitions?
[16:46] <healern> urlin2u, I take what I hear with a grain of salt, and I am not sure what "correct inquiry methods" you mean
[16:46] <M0TRN_th1> Gnea, who said anything about ntfs partitions, and that's pretty much beside the point because the malware could be written specifically for Linux and search for mounted file systems and exploits to get root access etc.
[16:47] <M0TRN_th1> Gnea, or simply connect to a botnet and flag itself as an infected linux box at which point the owner could take action
[16:47] <urlin2u> healern, if you were a scientist it would be peer reviewed data from research you can use the same methid here.
[16:47] <urlin2u> method*
[16:48] <M0TRN_th1> healern, the bottom line is that any usable system that's connected to any public network and being used to interact with said network (the internet) will always be at some risk of getting compromised
[16:48] <Gnea> M0TRN_th1: that's assuming that the ntfs filesystem is mounted in the first place - since when is root access possible from the script?  got a url showing a proof of concept code?
[16:48] <M0TRN_th1> nothing you do can prevent that
[16:48] <M0TRN_th1> Gnea, an exploit doesn't have to be public to work
[16:49] <M0TRN_th1> many exploits are only made public when somebody discovers that the baddies are using them
[16:49] <Gnea> M0TRN_th1: depending on your definition of 'public'
[16:49] <healern> urlin2u, Scientists have mutual understanding of the subject and laboratory environments to test things out, I am a linux newbie and I could muck around with files for a long awhile and not learn much of anything, they are hardly comparable
[16:49] <M0TRN_th1> healern, just be aware that whatever OS or software you use to surf the net you are always at some risk of getting hacked
[16:50] <healern> And anyway, this chat is as close to "peer review" as I can think to get
[16:50] <M0TRN_th1> but when you use Linux your risk is less than when you use Windows
[16:50] <urlin2u> healern, hehe so who is running half the servers on the web and all of them at google the opensuse OS at the large hadron collider?
[16:50] <conntrack> M0TRN_th1: Why is that?
[16:50] <M0TRN_th1> conntrack, because most malware is windows specific, because there are more windows users by a factor of over 10
[16:51] <conntrack> M0TRN_th1: Why is it that whatever OS or software you use there is always a risk of being hacked?
[16:51] <Gnea> healern, M0TRN_th1: if you don't allow a regular user to mount your window filesystem, then you can pretty much guarantee that any ntfs partition is not going to become infected
[16:51] <healern> urlin2u, I only half understood that, and the half I did barely helped me understand it as a complete thought
[16:51] <shishire> Most people think of security as an on or off thing.  It's much more granular than that.  There is a cost associated with securing a system.  The more secure you make it, the greater the cost.  At some point, the cost of securing it further is more expensive than the damage that could be caused by it getting compromised.  There is no magic bullet.
[16:51] <M0TRN_th1> conntrack, because it could have a vulnerability in some of its networking code that is unknown to you and the people responsible for releasing updates, but that some hackers have discovered
[16:52] <Sidewinder1> healern, For further study, you may wish to have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 If you haven't already. It's a little dated but still relevant.
[16:52] <conntrack> M0TRN_th1: I'm not sure that is the answer I. But it is expected
[16:53] <urlin2u> healern, I'm not surprised hehe just be careful don't mess with stuff that is well known to possibly be a problem like p2p stuff that needs a password to crack it.
[16:53] <deej1976> searching: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/How_to_make_screenshots
[16:54] <mikeg9b> whois mikeg9b
[16:54] <sipior> mikeg9b: you should know!
[16:54] <searching> deej1976 I found thenks
[16:54] <llutz> mikeg9b: "whoami"
[16:54] <searching> deej1976 how to apt-get remove games ?
[16:55] <shishire> searching which games?
[16:55] <hutch> why doesn't empathy allow videochat with facebook? Is it in the pipeline?
[16:55] <deej1976> searching: Thats a different question, which games?
[16:55] <searching> all games on lubuntu
[16:55] <urlin2u> searching, all games or specific apt-get remove "game-name"
[16:55] <searching> in the Panel I have Games
[16:55] <searching> but all
[16:55] <healern> Well I was actually using download site search engines to find some of my anime
[16:56] <deej1976> searching: dpkg-query -l | grep games
[16:56] <M0TRN_th1> searching, there is no magic command to remove all games. but you can do "dpkg -i | grep -i game" and it will show you a list of all packages installed that have "game" in the name then you can "sudo apt-get remove " those
[16:56] <hutch> facebook usese the same protocol as google (XMPP) and video chat works between emathy/google
[16:56] <M0TRN_th1> searching, sorry that should be "dpkg -l" not "-i"
[16:56] <urlin2u> search  think all but one are under gnome-games-common used to be, look under game in software center.
[16:56] <searching> ace-of-penguins
[16:57] <searching> ok
[16:57] <deej1976> searching: apt-cache search ace-of-penguins ; apt-get purge ace-of-penguins
[16:57] <deej1976> sudo apt-get purge ace-of-penguins
[16:58] <searching> ok thanks
[16:58] <searching> it runs
[16:58] <searching> sudo apt-get remove --purge ace-of-penguins
[16:58] <somasin> how can I make ubuntu start without loading lightdm or gdm etc?
[16:58] <searching> and all removed
[16:58] <llutz> !nox | somasin
[16:58] <searching> thanks
[17:00] <d33ck> cant someone lend me a hand please
[17:00] <conntrack> left or right?
[17:00] <d33ck> i really dont know whats wrong. i did everything it need to setup virtual interface
[17:01] <d33ck> but the eth0:1 still disconnected
[17:01] <searching> deej1976 I know it isn't a ubuntu question but I have mingw in win xp I can compile C program but I can't see the result disepear very fast
[17:01] <searching> when ./program
[17:02] <d33ck> looks like no answer here
[17:03] <M0TRN_th1> searching, ./program | less ?
[17:03] <sipior> d33ck: if you want an answer, give us more data.
[17:03] <searching> if I have a printf something
[17:03] <d33ck> okay another problem, does anyone here has any successful experience with clonezilla server combined with ubuntu desktom oneiric?
[17:03] <deej1976> searching: I've been using Unix/Linux for 13 years I have know idea.
[17:03] <searching> the console disepear
[17:04]  * deej1976 Home time
[17:05] <AaronDCampbell> I have a text file that as a bunch of file names in it (path included).  I want to copy all those files to another directory.  How can I do that?
[17:05] <searching> a simple C program printf hello
[17:05] <searching> compile and run but very fast
[17:05] <d33ck> sipior: okay, my bad. i wanted to use clonezilla server on ubuntu desktop. i need to setup two ip address on single ethernet interface. i have removed the network-manager network-manager-gnome, i have edited interfaces file to list my eth0 and eth0:1 an ip address each on completely different c class subnet.
[17:06] <searching> ok thanks
[17:06] <d33ck> but when i execute /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:06] <d33ck> the eth0:1 still not initiated. thus it has no address
[17:06] <d33ck> but when i call ifconfig eth0:1 its state is up
[17:07] <llutz> AaronDCampbell: cp $(<yourfilewithpathes) /new/destination/
[17:08] <d33ck> there is some info, will someone come to the rescue?
[17:08] <sipior> d33ck: could you pastebin the output of ifconfig for the two interfaces?
[17:09] <d33ck> sipior: hang on please
[17:09] <AaronDCampbell> llutz: cp $(christmassongs) christmas-songs/ give me christmassongs: command not found
[17:09] <llutz> AaronDCampbell: cp $(<yourfilewithpathes) /new/destination/
[17:09] <llutz> AaronDCampbell: you missed the "<"
[17:09] <AaronDCampbell> Ahhh, missed the <
[17:09] <sipior> d33ck: might as well throw in /etc/network/interfaces, while you're at it.
[17:09] <AaronDCampbell> Well, it seems to freak out because the file names have spaces
[17:09] <llutz> xmas is coming. ..
[17:10] <mindhacker> hi
[17:10] <AaronDCampbell> llutz: Is there a way to make it handle path/filenames with spaces?
[17:11] <fellayaboy> which is better vi or emacs
[17:11] <mindhacker> vi
[17:11] <sipior> fellayaboy: no holy wars here, please.
[17:11] <llutz> AaronDCampbell: uuh, i don't know off hand
[17:11] <fellayaboy> sipior lol ok
[17:12] <fellayaboy> sipior i was literally trying to find out the difference but i dont wanna flood this chat with unrelated stuff
[17:12] <sipior> fellayaboy: best way to do that is simply to try both of them for yourself.
[17:12] <fellayaboy> sipior yes sir
[17:13] <milk> hey all. got an ubuntu server motd problem - when i login, i get two copied of /var/run/motd printed out to my terminal. could anyone advise what might be causing this?
[17:13] <milk> copies even
[17:14] <sipior> fellayaboy: give each of them a month, see which one you like. lots of blogs with tricks/tips about both editors; read all you can.
[17:14] <meco> Can someone invite me to #openbox?
[17:14] <fellayaboy> okay
[17:15] <M0TRN_th1> fellayaboy, most people like either vi(m) or emacs, I like emacs and I think it is far better but YMMV
[17:15] <mneptok> milk: /etc/motd is auto-generated. start poking around in /etc/update-motd.d/
[17:15] <llutz> AaronDCampbell: "sed -i 's/^\(.*\)$/\"\1\"/'  yourfilewithpathes"    to quote the filenames should work (not sure)
[17:15] <fellayaboy> M8TRN_th1 no holy warring
[17:16] <healern> healern, "its not as easy as dropping a few lines of code either, linux has a password system that prevents such from being easy" -> unless you have super-strict custom selinux or so active, that's not true
 healern, the next time you su/sudo, it can grab your password - *BOOM*
[17:16] <healern> Do you guys agree with this?
[17:16] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it is certainly possible
[17:17] <M0TRN_th1> but then again how likely
[17:17] <fellayaboy> M8TRN_th1 im new i know some basic commands in vi like entering insert and command write close and stuff like that.  i dont know how deep it goes and im just skimming thru new open land here
[17:17] <M0TRN_th1> do you always wear safety shoes on the odd chance that a truck might drive over your feet?
[17:17] <healern> M0TRN_th1, well if it is easy, then won't it become pretty likely if linux gains any popularity at all?
[17:18] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it will become more likely
[17:18] <M0TRN_th1> look at the number of infected windows machines
[17:18] <M0TRN_th1> most Linux users get by just fine without an antivirus installed, try that on windows, after a couple of weeks you're bound to have several infections
[17:19] <M0TRN_th1> but there is a different reason as well, apart from the target base being smalelr on Linux and therefore it is a higher profit market to write malware for: Linux users are generally more clued up technically
[17:19] <M0TRN_th1> that might change if Linux becomes very popular
[17:19] <milenchooo> Hello all how can I change my fstab file trouht guest ?
[17:19] <Roasted> so uh... I have rhythmbox running... yet I don't see it ANYWHERE in gnome shell. I see its in the notification area though. how do I maximize it?
[17:20] <nuborn> hello, I'm trying to use Remote Desktop Viewer to access my machine at home, but how do I configure it so I don't have to give it permission from the other computer from the session to start? Is there any configuration files with variables for that?
[17:20] <d33ck> :
[17:20] <jfroebe> milenchoo - unless you can sudo from guest to root (not possible unless you specifically set it up that way).... no
[17:20] <Roasted> nuborn, that's done on the client machine you're connecting to. Is it an Ubuntu system?
[17:20] <d33ck> sipior: http://pastebin.com/5bwwd0jx
[17:20] <__name__> Hello.
[17:21] <nuborn> Roasted: yes, both run Ubuntu. I currently have ssh access to the other machine.
[17:21] <meco> Does anyone know if I can mount a different drive when in openbox any other way than starting up nautilus?
[17:21] <__name__> I uninstalled aptd and zeitgeist and the unity launcher stopped working, reinstalled the two and it still does not work.
[17:21] <llutz> M0TRN_th1: "Linux users are generally more clued up technically"    good joke, ymmd
[17:21] <Roasted> nuborn, that's done on the client system you're connecting to then. You can see password settings in the remote desktop settings of tha system.
[17:21] <Roasted> nuborn, that will allow your main system to conncet without password, as long as you set those preferences correctly.
[17:22] <sipior> d33ck: so, "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces"
[17:22] <urlin2u> llutz, you know the ones that complain about the DE changes "it's to hard" :D
[17:22] <sipior> d33ck: can you start the virtual interface on the command line?
[17:22] <llutz> urlin2u: oh our "power users"...
[17:22] <d33ck> sipior: using ifup?
[17:23] <__name__> Also, why is powertop reporting high wattage of eth0 even if it
[17:23] <__name__> is not connected?
[17:23] <sipior> d33ck: no, using ip/ifconfig
[17:23] <b3jotole> hai
[17:23] <jc>     #winehq
[17:23] <b3jotole> help me
[17:24] <phper___> Hello. Anyone knows about colinux?
[17:24] <Roasted> where are rhythmbox settings stored?
[17:24] <theadmin> phper___: Not supported here
[17:24] <b3jotole> mbuh asss
[17:24] <d33ck> sipior: hmm...how to do that using ifconfig?
[17:24] <mohammadetakie> السلام عليكم
[17:25] <nuborn> Roasted: yes, I tried to configure vnc on the remote machine, but I couldn't find the exact settings for disabling the "permission prompt" on the remote machine. I can try disabling password. although I already disabled authentication.
[17:25] <sipior> d33ck: should be "ifconfig eth0:0 <address> netmask <netmask>..."
[17:25] <fellayaboy> total noob question here..say i wanted to make a stupid .exe program for windows that would just find and delete or rename or whatever using programs like find, rename, shred, wipe, etc is it possible? do most programs in windows use these or do they use a bigger program like perl, c++
[17:25] <nixmaniack> help needed with notifications in gnome 3. -> http://imagebin.org/182992
[17:25] <d33ck> sipior: hold on, letme try
[17:26] <urlin2u> phper___, you will find out if you actually ask a question.
[17:26] <fellayaboy> i know mostly they use bigger ones like c++ but can they use these bash programs
[17:26] <fellayaboy> is their a way to export them and make it run on a .exe
[17:27] <urlin2u> phper___, ah  I see not supported oh well.
[17:27] <fellayaboy> like a bash script that does whatever...i want to convert that to .exe format its possible right
[17:27] <phper___> well, I am wondering if colinux/xming/pulseaudio can crash Windows, or they are just another userspace Window applications.
[17:27] <sipior> fellayaboy: if i understand what you're asking correctly, have a look at Cygwin. that's not exactly on-topic here, however.
[17:27] <d33ck> sipior: http://pastebin.com/f5v1i5jD just that
[17:28] <healern> M0TRN_th1, only when it is small, if linux became widely popular then it could have a less educated userbase, rather then more, being more complicated to use then windows
[17:28] <Psychobudgie> fellayaboy, google batch files
[17:28] <fellayaboy> no no not using cygwin
[17:28] <M0TRN_th1> healern, that's what I said
[17:28] <fellayaboy> ok Psychobudgie
[17:28] <sipior> d33ck: okay, and does the interface now show as running in "ifconfig -a"?
[17:28] <CobraKhan007> the good old .bat files...
[17:29] <CobraKhan007> or nowdays the .cmd files
[17:29] <d33ck> sipior : http://pastebin.com/2jeb5ZWz it is in ifconfig -a now. is it working now.
[17:29] <d33ck> ok thanks
[17:29] <d33ck> let me try setup the clonezilla server now
[17:30] <healern> M0TRN_th1, So how can I shore up linuxs main line of defense, its PW system?
[17:30] <sipior> d33ck: yep, have fun
[17:30] <d33ck> thanks alot sipior
[17:30] <fellayaboy> Psychobudgie, thanks that about sums it up
[17:31] <phper___> oh, boy, I think I will stop using portable Ubuntu.
[17:31] <M0TRN_th1> healern, it's uid/gid system prevents one user from using the privileges of another, it doesn't do anything to stop malware from using *your* user account to do bad stuff from
[17:31] <M0TRN_th1> there are several layers of security
[17:31] <Najbolji> hi! question i'm not proud of it, but how can i upgrade just one specific package on Ubuntu server? I have 8.10 which came with not very good version of parted and now i just need to upgrade parted from 1.71 to newer one which will work on that server... any help is apreciated
[17:31] <M0TRN_th1> if you actually download a program and run it you have basically given it access to your user account.
[17:32] <M0TRN_th1> but other ways for code to run as your user id is to exploit bugs in web browsers or other software that interacts with untrusted 3rd party sites
[17:32] <M0TRN_th1> then once the bad guys have code running as *your* user ID they can search for privilege escalation exploits to become root without knowing the password
[17:33] <M0TRN_th1> or log *your* user key strokes until you type the root password
[17:33] <M0TRN_th1> once they get root they can modify any part of your system including the kernel
[17:33] <healern> wouldn't they need root access to log keystrokes in the first place?
[17:33] <M0TRN_th1> so then they can install backdoors and malware that is almost impossible to detect and remove
[17:33] <milen8204> !notunity
[17:34] <wildc4rd> Good evening all
[17:34] <M0TRN_th1> healern, not to log *your* keystrokes, they can change your environment to run "wrapper" applications instead of the real ones that will log the keystrokes at the user level
[17:35] <healern> M0TRN_th1, won't it need password access to change my environment and run any application I did not approve?
[17:35] <M0TRN_th1> healern, if you run it in the first place it has full access to your account
[17:35] <M0TRN_th1> it can do anything you can do without typing a password
[17:36] <FlashDeluxe> hi i installed the current kubuntu on my notebook and i got  second screen plugged in. Now if i drag a program, e.g. dolphin to the second screen the program is in the background?! Does anybody got a suggestion on it?
[17:36] <M0TRN_th1> like change your desktop background or install a script that runs every time you log in
[17:36] <healern> M0TRN_th1, this is near a direct contradiction from what I have been told by others. From what my understanding is that password system is to prevent anything from installing without permission, and almost nothing to do with multiple users
[17:36] <M0TRN_th1> it can install to your own account
[17:37] <M0TRN_th1> a program you run under your account will have your user id and group id, and it can access anything that your user account can access
[17:37] <M0TRN_th1> that is, read most of the files on the system and write all the ones in your home directory and below
[17:37] <milen8204> !notunity
[17:37] <michel> hi everyone
[17:38] <M0TRN_th1> healern, or make an outgoing tcp connection to a botnet and accept commands from a remote hacker
[17:38] <M0TRN_th1> which will be run as if you had typed them in a terminal
[17:38] <bobbytek> How can I make 11 look like 10?
[17:38] <urlin2u> M0TRN_th1, wcan you all take this topic to #ubuntu -offtopic
[17:38] <bobbytek> I can't create launchers
[17:38] <bobbytek> Or adjust the themes :(
[17:38] <bobbytek> Can't move max / min buttons to right :(
[17:38] <healern> M0TRN_th1, if i typed it into a terminal, I would need to clear it with sudo and a password.
[17:39] <M0TRN_th1> healern, if you want to continue it's in #ubuntu-offtopic per urlin2u
[17:39] <healern> M0TRN_th1, So is there a way I can get confirmation of what your telling me here? And if it is right, how do I fix this?
[17:39] <healern> I am directly asking about ubuntu, offtopics is for stuff that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:40] <M0TRN_th1> healern, there are lots and lots of commands you can execute without root privileges. but for more details let's go to #ubuntu-offtopic ok?
[17:40] <urlin2u> healern, it is a quieter channel you will actually get stuff done faster.:D
[17:41] <healern> Why there? That would be the wrong channel, and I want other people to hear the conversation so that if there is disagreement or agreement with what i am told, I might hear that too
[17:41] <bobbytek> Any links I can read about making 11 look like 10?
[17:41] <lilzad> hi
[17:41] <lilzad> does any1 no how to fix dual boot for windows 7
[17:41] <genii-around> healern: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better channel to discuss ubuntu related issues which are not an immediate support issue
[17:42] <lilzad> i keep gettin error oxc0000225
[17:42] <healern> I was told, one of the mechanisms for making sure you get told something correct or not is the feedback of others in the channel. While that isn't exactly a assurance, every bit helps
[17:42] <M0TRN_th1> healern, there are almost as many people in there :)
[17:42] <osse> Hi guys! I'm using 11.10. I just added my Google account via the "me menu" and specified to use this for among other things chatting. But it wasn't automatically added to Empathy. Is that as expected?
[17:42] <healern> People talking about random shit, rather then ubuntu, people not interested in thinking about ubuntu
[17:42] <Myrtti> osse: pretty much... sadly
[17:42] <Myrtti> healern: mind your attitude and language, please
[17:43] <healern> Myrtti, I didn't see any problem with either, so please be more specific
[17:43] <sipior> healern: this is a help channel. going on and on pointlessly to assuage your security jitters is not fair to the other users of this channel. quit hogging the conversation, in other words.
[17:44] <M0TRN_th1> healern, like I said I'll be happy to answer your questions in there but please be polite to the channel ops
[17:44] <Myrtti> M0TRN_th1: I'd prefer being polite to everyone
[17:44] <Sidewinder1> healern, Did you read/fully understand the link I gave you earlier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 ?? It's written by one of the Mods/Administrator of Ubuntu forums
[17:46] <Sidewinder1> Guess he's reading, now. :-)
[17:46] <healern> Sidewinder1, your link seems to contradict M0TRN_th1
[17:47] <osse> Myrtti, ok, thanks. Do you know why? I would think that would be useful
[17:47] <Sidewinder1> Not my link; it's bodhi-zazen's..
[17:47] <fellayaboy> how can i highlight text in terminal without my mouse
[17:47] <savid> Is it possible to change a password without prompting (ie, for scripting)?   I want to use apg to set a random password.
[17:48] <Sidewinder1> Although, I guess I did supply it..
[17:48] <Myrtti> osse: I haven't the faintest idea :-(
[17:49] <sipior> savid: easier just to disable the login, surely?
[17:49] <Sidewinder1> healern, Please study it and the links contained therein; after all, your nick is he'llearn. :-)
[17:50] <healern> heal, not he'll
[17:50] <user_> hi
[17:50] <mfilipe> how do I do to add more workspaces?
[17:50] <user_> test
[17:50] <urlin2u> mfilipe, in what relese and and desktop?
[17:50] <urlin2u> release*
[17:50] <mfilipe> ubuntu-11.10
[17:50] <healern> sidewinder, participate in offtopic then please
[17:51] <urlin2u> mfilipe, what DESKTOP?
[17:51] <urlin2u> :D
[17:51] <healern> I don't want it just to be m0t that i am talking to about this
[17:51] <__name__> No one got any idea what could prevent the unity launcher from searching things?
[17:51] <deamon_> helloo all
[17:52] <mfilipe> urlin2u, sorry, I didn't understand your question? do you want know what are my pc desktop? thinkpad t410s
[17:53] <savid> Is there a way to change a password from commandline without prompting?
[17:53] <sipior> savid: redirect standard input.
[17:53] <genii-around> mfilipe: More like: I'm running 11.04 with Unity desktop ... or: I'm running 11.10 with gnome-shell desktop
[17:53] <urlin2u> mfilipe, you running unity gnome 3 xubuntu kubuntu lxde openbox....etc?
[17:54] <mfilipe> urlin2u, genii-around: unity
[17:54] <urlin2u> mfilipe, compizconfig manager will allow you to set more workspaces.
[17:54]  * wh1zz0 ... Does anyone know if it is possible to use no -ip instead of my external IP to run my own server on my ubuntu box? I ask this because even though I've installed apache I can see my files locally but when people visit my external IP they don't see my website.. So is there a way I can achieve this using No-IP service?
[17:54] <savid> sipior, tried that.
[17:55] <savid> echo "foo" | passwd doesn't work
[17:55] <somasin> how do I boot without a display manager? adding text after kernel line in grub shows text messages but still starts lightdm
[17:55] <theadmin> somasin: That's odd, that normally works
[17:56] <fellayaboy> is their a way to highlight text in terminal without the mouse?
[17:57] <g0rs> wh1zz0: it shoudl be possible . You can access your computer as a folder if you can run a ftp server. I did the same
[17:58] <loop-> wh1zz0 forward port 80 on your router to the LAN ip you have apache running on
[17:58] <bobbytek> Is it possible to customize themes in 11.10 ?
[17:58] <user_> user_: test
[17:58] <ViaNocturna85> bobbytek, what do you mean themes?
[17:59] <bobbytek> ViaNocturna85, in the Appearance menu
[17:59] <bobbytek> You can select a theme, but not modify it
[17:59] <trism> somasin: another option is to set the lightdm service to manually start: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/lightdm.override; you can start it later with: sudo start lightdm;
[17:59] <bobbytek> I am interested in moving the close maximize, minimize buttons to the right
[17:59] <bobbytek> Is that possible?
[18:00] <luis__> bobbytek: Did you try Ubuntu Tweek?
[18:00] <ViaNocturna85> bobbytek, try this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52533/how-to-change-gtk-theme-and-icon
[18:00] <esperegu_> anyone has a working xorg.conf for dual head intel integrated graphics (2600K cpu)
[18:00] <g0rs> wh1zz0: run a dynamic dns service like no-ip and you can make your machine a server
[18:00] <ViaNocturna85> bobbytek, it was intended for icons but covers themes altogether
[18:02] <wh1zz0> g0rs: Cld you pls point me to a very good tutorial on this.. I've been searching and haven't found anything worthwhile to this regard
[18:02] <DirtyDawg> does anyone know the keyboard shortcut keys for page up and down on a netbook without those keys ?
[18:02] <g0rs> wh1zz0: are you behing a router?
[18:02] <loop-> wh1zz0 dynamic dns wont solve your problem if youre behind a router
[18:03] <g0rs> wh1zz0: you have to setup a dmz host if you're behind a router and enable ports  on a machine
[18:03] <somasin> trism: ty that did it
[18:03] <wh1zz0> I don't have a router
[18:04] <g0rs> wh1zz0: there are plenty of tutorials on the web which can help you configure a dns client ( which is your machine)
[18:04] <B0g4r7_> dyndns client
[18:04] <g0rs> sorry dyndns client
[18:05] <wh1zz0> ... and anytime I go to type in my external IP address in my browser, this is what I get... SOMAportal is not enabled on this system.
[18:08] <B0g4r7_> wh1zz0, which address is that?
[18:09] <wh1zz0> B0g4r7_: The IP address I see when I visit whatismyipaddress.com i.e my external ip address and I also get the same msg when I visit 192.168.1.1
[18:09] <llutz> wh1zz0: you are connected directly to the internet? does the ip-address given by "ifconfig" match the one when you call "whatismyip.org"?
[18:10] <loop-> router'd bro
[18:10] <loop-> hey why doesnt this freenode seem very free
[18:10] <wh1zz0> hmmm
[18:10] <B0g4r7_> wh1zz0, is that the same address you are connected to IRC from? (41.184.68.112)
[18:10] <wh1zz0> yeah,, that's my external
[18:11] <urlin2u> loop-, lol needs more meds.
[18:11] <loop-> dont mind if i do
[18:12] <B0g4r7_> wh1zz0, and your internal IP address shown by ifconfig, that is a different address?
[18:12] <wh1zz0> llutz: No the inet I see when I go ifconig is 192.168.1.1 while the one I see when I visit whatismyipaddress.com is the one B0g4r7_ pasted above
[18:12] <B0g4r7_> wh1zz0, OK, you are indeed behind a NAT router then.
[18:12] <wh1zz0> B0g4r7_: Yeah the inet is 192.168.1.2
[18:13] <llutz> wh1zz0: as i told you some day ago, you need to ask your ISP to do portforwarding for you (which he surely not will do) or change your ISP
[18:13] <g0rs> wh1zz0: setup a dmz host
[18:13] <B0g4r7_> wh1zz0, Unless you have the password to the router, you will not be able to receive inbound connections from the outside.
[18:13] <loop-> B0g4r7_ log into his router and forward his port for him lol
[18:13] <B0g4r7_> heh
[18:13] <g0rs> wh1zz0: setting a dmz post would put your machine in the WAN.
[18:14] <B0g4r7_> DMZ is overkill.  He just needs one port forwarded.
[18:14] <wh1zz0> g0rs: Hmmm
[18:14] <llutz> B0g4r7_: his ISP does NAT, so no chance of portforwarding
[18:14] <anuj> just installed backtrack , now when i try to install anything i get an error like this :: Can't open /var/lib/sudo/username/0: Read-only file system
[18:14] <anuj> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:14] <anuj> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[18:14] <anuj> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[18:14] <wh1zz0> Yeah and since I dont have access to my router
[18:14] <g0rs> in the case, you might enable ports on a particlar machine such as port 80 for http or something else for https
[18:14] <wh1zz0> g0rs: B0g4r7_: Since I dont have access to my router, will the DMZ work for me?
[18:15] <anuj> anybody knows why ?
[18:15] <g0rs> wh1zz0: are you in a corporate of university lan?
[18:15] <llutz> !backtrack | anuj
[18:15] <g0rs> wh1zz0: are you in a corporate or university lan?
[18:15] <wh1zz0> LAN
[18:15] <offfff> § §
[18:15] <offfff> ß^£
[18:15] <wh1zz0> Private LAN but not dedicated
[18:15] <anuj> ubottu, thanks
[18:15] <B0g4r7_> wh1zz0, so your options are rather limited.  You might look at "Hamachi" VPN software, which can work around your limitations, but that means that anyone who wants to connect to your server will also need to be running Hamachi.
[18:15] <g0rs> wh1zz0: do you have acess to your LAN's  router?
[18:16] <urlin2u> lol banned by the bot
[18:16] <wh1zz0> B0g4r7_: Ahhhh the hamachi stuff would be sad.. :( ... g0rs: No I do not, when I try to access my router, I get a msg saying it's not enabled on this system.. meaning I cont have access
[18:17] <wh1zz0> Any other option? How about the DMZ option?
[18:17] <g0rs> wh1zz0: can you type something like 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1 , this is the ip of your router ( gateway)
[18:17] <B0g4r7_> wh1zz0, DMZ also requires admin access to your router.
[18:17] <dim_qv> all Hello! Can someone help me?
[18:18] <wh1zz0> g0rs: Yeah.. I know that's the gateway.. and it doesnt allow me .... B0g4r7_: hummm... I see.. :(
[18:18] <g0rs> if you dont have access your router, your options are very limited .
[18:18] <llutz> wh1zz0: as i already told you too: hire a cheap webspace and put your stuff there.
[18:18] <milen8204> Hello guys I have install gnome-shell but have bout Unity and gnome3 , how to turn off unity ?in Ubuntu 11.10
[18:19] <B0g4r7_> !nounity | milen8204
[18:20] <milen8204> B0g4r7_, I have read  !nounity but can`t remove unity whit gnome-tweak-tool
[18:20] <wh1zz0> llutz: Yeah.. I guess you did, just thought maybe there was another squeaky option
[18:20] <wh1zz0> Thanks guys
[18:20] <loop-> plug the machine directly into your modem wh1zz0
[18:20] <llutz> wh1zz0: yes, change your ISP :)
[18:21] <dim_qv> Do you happen to know how can I create a Windows 7 bootable USB flash drive from Fedora 15? I know this isn't the proper channel to ask this, but ##windows is useless. =_="
[18:21] <urlin2u> milen8204, you don't really want to remove unity, it is actually a plugin in compiz it is rather small, and messing with removing it really isn't in your best interests, unless your like really OCD.
[18:21] <dim_qv> !all
[18:21] <llutz> dim_qv: this channel is useless too, you are offtopic
[18:22] <g0rs> dim_qv: there is usb disk creator , im not sure if you'd find it in fedora
[18:22] <wh1zz0> llutz: Yeah.. I guess changing my ISP would be the next option cuz apart from the fact that I hate paying for something which I can get for free, I love monitoring and administering my stuffs, you know, that kinda thing
[18:22] <fellayaboy> anyway of making alt not popup menus in terminal
[18:22] <dim_qv> llutz: yes, I _know_ that. But someone might still be helpful if he knows something about this issue.
[18:22] <g0rs> wh1zz0: if you haev your own isp, then they might have setup a modem with router for you
[18:23] <urlin2u> dim_qv, you can make a bootable usb by partitoning with ntfs having a bootflag and extracting the ISO to the USB in ubuntu fedora probably s no different.
[18:23] <zetui> hi
[18:23] <B0g4r7_> dim_qv, booting Windows from anything other than a normal hard drive or SSD is not likely to work well at all IMO.
[18:23] <zetui> this is what i got on my ubuntu server
[18:23] <milen8204> urlin2u, http://imageshack.us/f/231/20111107202105.png/ just want to remove the dock in left
[18:23] <zetui> http://pastebin.com/tDS02ine
[18:23] <zetui> what i have to do ?
[18:24] <urlin2u> milen8204, some suggest just unticking the unity-plugin in the compizconfig manager do at your own risk.
[18:24] <zetui> hello anyone there ,
[18:24] <zetui> ?
[18:25] <B0g4r7_> Heh, the dock is the only part of Unity that I care for.
[18:25] <urlin2u> milen8204, I use docky on the bottom as well, never unticked the unity though.
[18:25] <dim_qv> g0rs: urlin2u B0g4r7_  thank you guys :) I'll try your methods and see if it helps.
[18:25] <Klojum> are you on a telephone, zetui ?
[18:25] <milen8204> urlin2u, what could happen if I try ? :D
[18:25] <zetui> http://pastebin.com/tDS02ine <[18:26] <milen8204> urlin2u, I dont like the Unity plugin I would like to use gnome panels
[18:26] <Klojum> If anyone knows the solution, they will report it to you.
[18:26] <milen8204> !nounity
[18:26] <urlin2u> milen8204, not sure bit the refresh rate of compiz is not good in natty and beyond, Basically evrytime I have seen that advice it has a at your own risk attached.
[18:26] <B0g4r7_> zetui, it would appear to be related to SMBus.  Beyond that I don't know.  Are you experiencing problems with the affected system?
[18:26] <esperegu_> anyone has a working xorg.conf for intel integrated graphics (2600K cpu)
[18:26] <jbennatt> seriously, this is ridiculous...where can I find accessories on the new Ubuntu theme...I cannot seem to figure out how to change it back to the classic view, rather than this mac-style full screen crap
[18:26] <zetui> yes
[18:26] <B0g4r7_> Such as...
[18:26] <milen8204> urlin2u, I am whit 11.10
[18:27] <zetui> what is SMBUS ?
[18:27] <urlin2u> milen8204, you can turn it back on though I think in the 2d unity or the classic natty and beyond means later releases.
[18:27] <javier_> Hi! I'm for several days, since with lots of problems with ubuntu and internet in wireless conection, while windows internet is fluent. I've been looking on the internet and tryed not to use ipv6, but no improve, neither using google DNS. Someone can help me with an idea with this serious problem? Thanks
[18:27] <B0g4r7_> zetui, System Management Bus, I believe.  I would suggest looking it up on wikipedia for further detail.
[18:28] <milen8204> urlin2u, ok I choose classic
[18:28] <milen8204> on the start
[18:29] <zetui> what i have to do ?
[18:29] <zetui> for this one ?
[18:29] <zetui> >	http://pastebin.com/tDS02ine <[18:30] <SJCommander> quit
[18:30] <SJCommander> Whoops xd
[18:30] <strange> is there a way to keep NetworkManager from touching my resolv.conf everytime my wifi reconnects it changes my dns
[18:30] <tomodachi> strange: you can set your nameserver settings in network/manager instead
[18:31] <strange> where is this network manager located
[18:31] <phunyguy_work> wow....
[18:31] <strange> i just know the vim /etc/resolv.conf option
[18:31] <BluesKaj> zetui, it would help if described ion more detail under what conditions these errors are occuring
[18:31] <BluesKaj> ion=in
[18:31] <phunyguy_work> strange, you were the one to ask about NetworkManager.
[18:31] <llutz> strange: rightclick nm-applet, edit connection, set dns in ipv4-settings
[18:32] <zetui> are you asking me when i got this error ?
[18:32] <B0g4r7_> zetui, what problems are you experiencing with the affected system, aside from this error appearing in the logs?
[18:33] <strange> flthx
[18:33] <zetui> nothing i just only got this on my log
[18:33] <javier_> for my internet problem with wireless, maybe I can find privative drivers? In the application it doesn't find anything, is there any other way to manually search for it?
[18:33] <zetui> what i have to do ?
[18:33] <g0rs> hurrican electric does something with ipv6
[18:33] <B0g4r7_> zetui, in that case, I would not worry.  There are many, many things that are going to show up in the logs that are not necessarily an indication of a problem that needs to be addresses.
[18:34] <B0g4r7_> addressed
[18:34] <falstaf> I recently installed iptux and ipmsg on my system for file sharing ... the programs work perfectly, but I was warned to watch for "security risks" what should I look for?
[18:34] <zetui> ok perfect
[18:34] <zetui> thanks a lot B0g4r7_
[18:34] <B0g4r7_> np
[18:35] <tgarza> irc.oftc.net
[18:38] <doshi> What's 1+2
[18:38] <EuroNerd> doshi, it's a secret
[18:39] <EuroNerd> i could tell you, but then i'd have to kill you
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[18:39] <Loptr> What is polkit-gnome and do i need it ? :D it make my boot time longer and i'm not sure what is it
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[18:39] <llutz> doshi: stopp that
[18:39] <FloodBot1> doshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <doshi> n  * e s / w h  l | o z w ! ' '  S < B $ ^ ! { n  D  @ K _ ^ : g  ~ [ / 7 V 0 ` M  ; z s S = e l F  n / 8 / & a A
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[18:39] <EuroNerd> doshi, you're spamming
[18:40] <kronoman> hello
[18:40] <kronoman> help, I have a Asus A7S333 motherboard, and Ubuntu will not power it off
[18:40] <kronoman> tried with ubuntu 9, 10, and 11 now
[18:40] <doshi> N c    F ` o +  K  S 3  n n S  Z F , M n H = x  _ B < ( h Z n w  A X + " l S } +  j 4 Q  ] K o    ? . I ^ T U T \
[18:41] <doshi> Fuck off
[18:41] <doshi> N c    F ` o +  K  S 3  n n S  Z F , M n H = x  _ B < ( h Z n w  A X + " l S } +  j 4 Q  ] K o    ? . I ^ T U T \
[18:41] <An-iSociaL> is there a log when network manager fails to connect?
[18:42] <An-iSociaL> i dont get any errors just failed
[18:42] <An-iSociaL> rather unuseful
[18:42] <kronoman> An-iSociaL, maybe dmesg on terminal?
[18:42] <kronoman> help, I have a Asus A7S333 motherboard, and Ubuntu will not power it off, not 9,not 10, not 11, win98 and xp does power off the machine
[18:42] <An-iSociaL> nada
[18:43] <kronoman> does all the circus of going to power off, then just idles forever on the "will now halt"
[18:43] <loop-> cd /var/log
[18:43] <Aleo> hi all
[18:44] <Loptr> What is polkit-gnome and do i need it ? :D it make my boot time longer and i'm not sure what is it
[18:45] <dluzius> need help with battery indicator in Ocelot on my toshiba L-655 laptop
[18:45] <kh25> whois rama
[18:46] <Jordan_U> dluzius: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric
[18:46] <luist> hey i made a persistent Live USB… and i extracted its .img    how can i make an ISO out of that?
[18:46] <llutz> Jordan_U: what?
[18:46] <dluzius> ok, tks a lot
[18:47] <Jordan_U> dluzius: Ignore that. I'm sleep deprived :)
[18:49] <jost_> hi
[18:49] <NeedSomeHelp> hi
[18:50] <Gentoo64> hi
[18:50] <jost_> is there a way to set the memory a process might use at maximum?
[18:50] <genii-around> Loptr: The short answer is it's what brings up the password dialogs when you need to do something requiring admin access. And that yes, you do need it.
[18:50] <Gentoo64> jost_: what do you mean?
[18:50] <Gentoo64> it should use however much it needs
[18:50] <lilzad> any1 no how to dual boot ubuntu and windows 7 after installing ubuntu??
[18:51] <jost_> i've written an application with some memory leak/infinite recursion, and when trying to debug it, it sometimes uses up all the memory and swap...
[18:51] <jost_> making my machine unusable
[18:51] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[18:51] <Gentoo64> i have no idea
[18:51] <Gentoo64> but i doubt it
[18:51] <vacho> I have a RPM file I want to install..how do I install one in ubuntu?
[18:51] <erry> jost_, maybe with ulimit http://ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html
[18:52] <vacho> im sure my question is fairly simple to most users here :)
[18:53] <llutz> vacho: you could use "alien" to convert it but you'd better try to find a deb or build from sources
[18:53] <vacho> there is none
[18:53] <genii-around> !alien
[18:53] <glioros> guys I have some parmesan cheese in which expired last 3 days. can i use it?
[18:54] <glioros> !parsesan-cheese
[18:54] <glioros> !parsesan
[18:54] <MisterMom> lol
[18:54] <|Anthony|> eat it
[18:54] <|Anthony|> nom nom
[18:54] <|Anthony|> it's like wine... better with age
[18:54] <glioros> thanks man
[18:55] <|Anthony|> np
[18:55] <vacho> how to I execute a .sh file?
[18:56] <jost_> ./{name of the file}
[18:56] <weezelding> what i'm doing wrong since i want to stop 'git-daemon' by this way: sudo sv stop git-daemon
[18:56] <genii-around> vacho: As jost_ says, if you are in the directory the file is in
[18:56] <jost_> vacho: if it is executable
[18:57] <loop-> sh /path/{name of the file}
[18:57] <weezelding> or sh script.sh
[18:57] <|Anthony|> make sure to chmod the file first
[18:57] <loop-> 999
[18:57] <vacho> vick@vick:~/Desktop/sqldeveloper$ sudo ./sqldeveloper.sh
[18:57] <vacho> sudo: ./sqldeveloper.sh: command not found
[18:57] <|Anthony|> needs to be executable
[18:59] <vacho> thanks
[19:00] <genii-around> vacho: Conceivably the file doesn't have a shebang as first line, or incorrect path in the shebang. You can specify: sudo /bin/bash filename
[19:00] <healern>  Can you use the latest distro, and just choose classic mode AKA gnome 2?
[19:00] <kronoman> healern, you have gnome3 fallback mode that is like gnome2
[19:01] <kronoman> must install gnome-shell, then choose gnome classic on login
[19:01] <pthek> alright ppl, i have a printer installed which was working fine on my ubuntu pc. I wasnt able to browse the network however in nautilus.. so I installed samba (which wasnt installed) and now the network works fine BUT I cant print.. when I now try to print I get an error saying  "Print Error: There was a problem processing document"
[19:02] <healern> kronoman, I am using 11.04, I can choose classic mode, but I did not install any gnome shell, is that classic mode something different then gnome classic?
[19:02] <pthek> I have tried to look in the samba logs but I cant seem to find any more information about the error.. so i don't really know where to start in fixing it.. anyone got any advice?
[19:02] <FunKi> http://www.nimbleservers.com/?s=1TY8 <--- CS:GO BETA KEY COMPETION! SIGN UP ; )
[19:03] <kronoman> healern, must be the 2D mode of unity?
[19:03] <kronoman> try it and see it
[19:04] <healern> kronoman, What must be 2d mode? I am in classic right now, that is not 2d unity. I actually had to install 2d unity because it did not come default, and 3d unity does not work for me.
[19:04] <healern> kronoman, as a matter of fact, classic mode looks a hell of alot like 10.10 looked, which used gnome 2 by default, right?
[19:04] <Griwes> hello there, some time ago I found a ubuntu package for gcc and g++ 4.7, however now I can't. could anyone give me name of ppa where it can be found?
[19:05] <jost_> genii-around: thanks, ulimit is the way to go :-)
[19:07] <lilzad> my windows 7 is on a partition type of unknown how do i change it to ntfs?
[19:07] <lilzad> without reformating it
[19:08] <Kingsy> anyone got any advice for me?
[19:11] <neobyte> Hey, I've been having a weird error with ubuntu
[19:12] <Kaveh_> hi
[19:12] <neobyte> Does anyone else here have ubuntu installed on their machine with wubi?
[19:12] <EvilResistance> neobyte:  whats your specific problem
[19:12] <EvilResistance> dont ask if anyone has experience
[19:12] <EvilResistance> ask your question about your problem
[19:12] <EvilResistance> if nobody knows, you wont get an answer
[19:12] <loop-> you think your better then me
[19:13] <kronoman> help, I have a Asus A7S333 motherboard, and Ubuntu will not power it off, not 9,not 10, not 11, win98 and xp does power off the machine
[19:13] <kronoman> does all the circus of going to power off, then just idles forever on the "will now halt"
[19:13] <Kaveh_> please suggest me a good application for disign GUI application in ubuntu
[19:13] <Kaveh_> like autorun builder programs in windows
[19:14] <blind> Is it possible to use the fluxbox menu on Gnome? I'm willing to sacrifice my desktop icons
[19:14] <neobyte> I'm trying to run a file, but I keep getting a "No such file or directory" error
[19:15] <ryan_46> kronoman: Will   sudo halt -h shut it down?
[19:15] <kronoman> ryan_46, no, not at all
[19:15] <neobyte> If I do an ls, it shows up
[19:15] <kronoman> does the same
[19:16] <Griwes> neobyte, how do you run it?
[19:16] <neobyte> griwes: I'm in the directory, and I do ./file_name
[19:16] <jason00_> Whats up guys.
[19:17] <ryan_46> kronoman: What version a and DE
[19:17] <jason00_> Question - is there any way I can create a "user entry" at the login screen to run a certain script? For example, what if I would like a script to run, but only when called on. To make it easier for students I'd like to have an entry at the login screen which runs it. How can I do this?
[19:18] <Kaveh_> please suggest me a good application for disign GUI application in ubuntu
[19:18] <llutz> jason00_: create a new user with that script as login shell
[19:18] <murph> I need libboost 1.46 but i seem tohaver 1.42. I recently upgraded to oneiric. What do i do?
[19:18] <jason00_> llutz: I don't want that user to log in, though. That's the key. I want the user to select "Fix Profile" and the "Fix Profile" user runs a script, then returns back to the login screen. Is this easy to do?
[19:19] <rock_church> need to install a  printer(panasonic  workio 190) and use it from my xubuntu :(
[19:19] <llutz> jason00_: create a new user with that script as login shell.
[19:19] <jason00_> llutz: yes, I know. you said that, but the same question I just asked still applies.
[19:19] <llutz> jason00_: just make sure the script logs out the user when exiting
[19:20] <jason00_> llutz: oh. okay
[19:20] <jason00_> gotcha :)
[19:20] <llutz> jason00_: he cannot login
[19:21] <llutz> jason00_: but i don't know how that will be handled by gdm/lightdm(any dm).
[19:22] <jason00_> llutz: the only thing is that script must run as root. is this possible to do without having that user need to authenticate?
[19:22] <llutz> jason00_: hopefully not :)
[19:22] <jason00_> llutz: how would it matter if its ldm or gdm? If it logs the user out, it logs the user out. Right?
[19:23] <llutz> jason00_: DMs do much more than loging a user in/out, different from "login" (the program)
[19:23] <jason00_> llutz: I'm still not entirely following how that's relevant. If the script is tied to run at login, followed by logging the user out at the end of the script, what's it matter?
[19:24] <llutz> jason00_: i never have done that. try it and look if it works as you need
[19:26] <theborger> question, I have 2 network cards in my box, eth0 is connected to my router eth1 i want to hook another device to so it has internet through my box. what am i looking for? bridging?
[19:27] <Untitled_only> has anyone been having problems with vnc connection on 11.10
[19:27] <genii-around> !ics
[19:27] <rock_church> Need to install a network printer and use it from Ubuntu  (Panasonic Workio 190)
[19:27] <theborger> ubottu: thanks
[19:27] <argghh> hello, I'm running ubuntu 11.10, and I'm trying to install testdisk 6.13 from source (which I've had no trouble with for other programs), but the ./configure script is reporting all kinds of missing packages that aren't actually missing, and closing with an error "configure: error: No uuid_create or uuid_generate function in library libuuid or uuidgen function present
[19:29] <datz_> Untitled_only, your wireless not work
[19:29] <datz_> and there some answers on google about it and how to fix
[19:29] <Untitled_only> my wireless is working its not my firewall
[19:30] <Untitled_only> idk whats going on -_-
[19:31] <Untitled_only> the connection keeps timing out...
[19:32] <okCPU> \join #nodejitsu
[19:32] <okCPU> crap... sorry... damn MS habbits
[19:35] <LetterRip> hi all how can in install /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1 ?
[19:35] <Loptr> Is there ANY way to install the windows version of skype in linux i checked for wine and its not working.
[19:35] <LetterRip> blender compile fails without it, and after upgrading to latest ubuntu it is missing
[19:35] <Loptr> The linux version is getting really weird and hiding lots of my contacts it deleted my groups and etc
[19:36] <genii-around> !find /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1
[19:37] <LetterRip> !find /usr/lib/libGLU.so
[19:37] <genii-around> LetterRip: package libglu1-mesa contains the file
[19:37] <LetterRip> ok
[19:38] <luist> hey i have a persistent Live USB and an its .img.   how can i make an ISO out of that?
[19:38] <LetterRip> genii-around: i have both nvidia-current and libglu1-mesa installed and still not able to locate it
[19:40] <genii-around> LetterRip: It may be looking for an architecture specific version. try: apt-get install libglu1-mesa:I386   ( or altermately AMD64 )
[19:40] <genii-around> *alternately
[19:40] <dmz> howdy y'all, quick question; i'm running 11.10 and have 2 sound cards; i have sound coming in on one (via mixer) and want to play it on the speakers connected to the other sound card. normal sound plays fine; and i can record input (via line in) but can not figure out how to test or get anything out htat is coming in the other card
[19:41] <Pepito> xdcc list
[19:42] <jbuchanan> dmz: are both cards showing up under the input tab in sound preferences?
[19:42] <dmz> yes
[19:43] <jbuchanan> If you select the other card and try putting in input, does the input level move? That should be sufficient to test it, at least.
[19:43] <dmz> jbuchanan yes and the input from mixer is a (good) usb sound device; i can record & play to it individually but can't receive audio from the usb and play on "default" sound card out (which also works fine on it's own)
[19:44] <jbuchanan> Ah.
[19:44] <dmz> jbuchanan yes i tried both mic inputs on internal device & line in and all 3 work; and input from usb card works fine (to record)
[19:45] <dabukalamm> ls
[19:46] <dabukalamm> q
[19:46] <dmz> if i put sound on the input of the same card that has speakers it will play but coming from different card is problem
[19:48] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm unable to video chat using empathy in 11.10
[19:49] <electricalan_> so I'm running oneiric ocelot, and the dock at the side of my screen insists on popping up for some applications when I want it to go away, can anyone help me rectify this?
[19:50] <Kingsy> anyone in here any good with cups?
[19:50] <Kingsy> I have a cups error log that I don't really understand.. so i was hoping to get someone to take a look and give me some advice?
[19:52] <llutz> Kingsy: and that error is secret?
[19:52] <grtm> ?
[19:52] <Kingsy> llutz: sorry.. 1 sec I will pastie it
[19:53] <Kingsy> llutz: E [07/Nov/2011:19:45:06 +0000] [Job 38] SpliX Invalid PPD file version: 2.0.0 but the PPD file is designed for SpliX V. SpliX V. 2.0.0
[19:54] <Turingi> Is there a way to expand an existing partition in linux in this scenario:  | /dev/sda1 20GB | swap 1G | unallocated 20G| and I'd like to change it to | /dev/sda1 40G | swap 1G | , i.e. filling up the unallocated space at the end
[19:54] <brianherman> turing1: do you have cfdisk?
[19:54] <brianherman> turing1: wait better do you have gparted?
[19:55] <Kingsy> llutz:  I can show you the entire log if you want.. ? But I think thats the main error
[19:55] <llutz> Kingsy: some old bugs in launchpad about that. what version of ubuntu do you run?
[19:56] <brianherman> Turingi: boot into a live cd
[19:56] <brianherman> turingi: delete the swap partition
[19:56] <brianherman> Turingi: and resize the /dev/sda1
[19:57] <Kingsy> llutz: 11.10 (latest)
[19:59] <atannus> voices...
[20:00] <Kingsy> llutz: alot of people are saying to downgrade the driver.. but I don't have a PPD file and it wont find anything when i search for it
[20:01] <xevil> are there any major issues upgrading 11.04 to 11.10?
[20:02] <llutz> Kingsy: sry i don't have any idea then. sry
[20:02] <go8765> Hello. How I can manage my mouse with keyboard in openbox?
[20:03] <beat111> Folks, who can help me. I just started live CD 11.10 and it is now asking me for a username and password.
[20:03] <Kingsy> llutz: fixed it by downgrading the driver from the existing database..
[20:04] <Kingsy> thanks anyways :)
[20:07] <azert> hello
[20:09] <Liram> good evening all, im having a small issue editing fstab from maintenance shell, searching for some info on the web and found the solution but upon using the command to remount root as read/write it says /not mounted already, or bad option and I cant edit fstab with vi in read only mode.
[20:12] <genii-around> Liram: mount -o remount,rw /          usually works
[20:13] <yashy> Looking for help getting keepass2 (2.16) work with ChromePass on Ubuntu with keepasshttp
[20:13] <yashy> I'm getting a note when I added KeePassHttp.plgx into /usr/lib/keypass that it's not a compatible plugin?
[20:14] <tanubis> I'm getting this error; anyone know how to fix? :  The following packages have unmet dependencies: libpam0g-dev : Depends: libpam0g (= 1.1.3-2ubuntu1) but 1.1.3-2ubuntu2.1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:14] <Liram> genii-around: tried that, and I get 'mount: / not mounted already, or bad option'
[20:15] <guy_> hi,i've installed nvidia driver but it says "driver is activated but not in use". moreover when i run nvidia-settings i get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."please help
[20:16] <genii-around> Liram: Did you already previously mount the old partition ( for example /dev/sda1 ) into somewhere like /mnt ?
[20:16] <ThesPooF> 4on4 el 3on3 ngn?
[20:16] <user1> how do we select kiosk mode in natty?
[20:16] <ResQue_> i need a bittorrent client with no GUI any ideas?
[20:17] <Liram> no, upon bootup ubuntu refuses to boot I get option to skip or drop into maintanence shell, I chose the latter and went for shell and tried to remount and wont let me
[20:17] <user1> !kiosk
[20:18] <user1> natty does not have kiosk mode?
[20:18] <Liram> resQue: google gave me this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTorrent
[20:19] <genii-around> Liram: Do you remember which partition your old root was on?
[20:19] <Liram> genii-around: you mean /dev/sda1 ?
[20:19] <user1> natty does not have kiosk mode? Liram?
[20:20] <Liram> no clue mate
[20:20] <user1> no one here for kiosk mode
[20:20] <user1> in natty
[20:20] <Spartakus> Anyone ever played 0AD? I have just installed it in my Lucid Lynx, but my screen is flickering when I play the game
[20:21] <ResQue_> Spartakus: what is 0AD i am always looking for new linux games
[20:21] <genii-around> Liram: In most cases that would be it, yes. But not always. ...  if you do: fdisk -l  | grep Linux       what partitions does it say on left?
[20:21] <ResQue_> Liram: thanks i will check it out
[20:21] <Spartakus> ResQue_, it is quite similar with Age of Empire, but, it is still in Alpha, so it is not a complete game yet
[20:21] <Spartakus> but it is very promising and can be played right now(albeit limited)
[20:22] <ganimede> hi all. how do i reset the connection to msn from empathy? I logged into it with the microsoft thing from another computer earlier on, and now it doesnt want to reconnect :(
[20:22] <Spartakus> It is a real time strategy game
[20:22] <ganimede> usually, when i reboot, it comes back, but i dont want to reboot just for it
[20:23] <strix_> Liram: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[20:23] <guy_> hi,i've installed nvidia driver but it says "driver is activated but not in use". moreover when i run nvidia-settings i get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."please help
[20:23] <Spartakus> ResQue_, also look here, there are several interesting games http://ubuntugames.net/
[20:23] <genii-around> strix_: If he has more than one drive and installed onto some secondary, that won't list it
[20:24] <ganimede> guy_: have you done: "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and reboot the computer?
[20:24] <root> test
[20:25] <genii-around> !test | root
[20:25]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps |
[20:25] <duckx0r> genii-around, he's already gone
[20:25] <genii-around> duckx0r: Heh, yes.
[20:25] <Spartakus> ResQue_, if you love FPS, I think you should look at tremulous too(if you have not look at it yet)
[20:25] <vero> guys how to crack md5
[20:25] <guy_> ganimede, this is the output of sudo nvidia-xconfig "sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found"
[20:27] <ganimede> guy_ strange... anyway i remember i had some hard time to activate my nvidia card, but didnt go into it, for sure
[20:27] <BluesKaj> guy  no : after sudo , just sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:27] <ganimede> ah yes, now i remember... settings/additional drivers: there you can choose
[20:27] <orated> Hi! I got my laptop speakers replaced and I would like to reinstall drivers for the audio/speakers. Can anyone guide me which package to reinstall for it?
[20:27] <ganimede> if i remember correctly, had to reboot a few times
[20:27] <user1> how do we select kiosk mode in natty?
[20:27] <user1> how do we select kiosk mode in natty?
[20:28] <guy_> ganimede, i have already done that
[20:28] <guy_> ganimede, hi,i've installed nvidia driver but it says "driver is activated but not in use". moreover when i run nvidia-settings i get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[20:29] <ganimede> i remember that activated but not in use on my config, too, but then i managed to go past it
[20:29] <ganimede> with the additional driver settings menu
[20:30] <hal9k2010> hello all
[20:30] <ganimede> I have also installed some other packages, but I really couldnt tell which one is required for nvidia
[20:32] <guy_> ganimede, one more thing when i do /etc/X11/xorg.conf it says no such file or directory
[20:32] <vero> hello all...
[20:32] <ganimede> guy_ dont go into the configuration manually
[20:32] <strix_> !ask | hal9k2010, vero
[20:33] <ganimede> there is an easy way
[20:33] <genii-around> !xorgconf
[20:33] <genii-around> The nvidia link
[20:33] <guy_> ganimede,then what should i do.i've been trying to setup nvidia for days now
[20:33] <Liram> genii-around: managed to fix it using the live disk it booted now :)
[20:34] <Spartakus> http://sauerbraten.org/ <<< it seems that it is a good linux game, anyone ever played it?
[20:34] <ganimede> guy_ google says:
[20:35] <Rafeiro> hi
[20:35] <ganimede> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates /// sudo apt-get update /// sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:35] <ganimede> replace the /// with newlines
[20:35] <Rafeiro> is there anything i can do to get the flash player performance better? it sucks on firefox and chrome, i can hardly play cityville :|
[20:35] <ganimede> basically, add a source repository and from it get the latest drivers
[20:36] <guy_> ok
[20:36] <guy_> ganimede, it'll take 5 min
[20:36] <ganimede> then reboot, relaunch additional drivers, reboot again and hope it works :D
[20:37] <Genjie> hello.!
[20:37] <ganimede> as nobody solved my issue with empathy, i will reboot too... see you in 20 seconds
[20:38] <genii-around> Liram: Ah, good to hear
[20:39] <Liram> strange really as I rebooted twice or so yesterday evening and worked fine
[20:41] <thoidingjam> is piping possible from linux console?
[20:42] <ganimede> sure thoidingjam
[20:42] <thoidingjam> plz tell me how
[20:42] <auronandace> |
[20:42] <ganimede> or rather, inside the console between two or more client programs, or from the console to somewhere else?
[20:43] <Rafeiro> can someone give me a hand with flash player poor performance?
[20:43] <thoidingjam> when i am running the cosole i want its memory to go out on a external txt file
[20:43] <mrbean> Hi, I want to install 11.10 in a pendrive, 3.72GB free, is it enough?
[20:43] <mrbean> I mean, will I have problems if I try to update it to 12.04?
[20:44] <auronandace> mrbean: 3.7? rest of the pendrive in use is it?
[20:44] <mrbean> no, it's a 4GB pendrive, but the actual space is 3.72GB, you know, the 1000 / 1024 dilemma
[20:45] <auronandace> mrbean: lubuntu might fit
[20:45] <Liram> mrbean: kinda doubt it reinstalled yesterday afternoon and my current disk space is about 4.3gigs
[20:45] <thoidingjam> mrbean,  ubuntu recommends 3 gb in its site
[20:46] <prezes> hello. can someone tell me please how to set up as default music on console (moc) player?
[20:46] <auronandace> mrbean: i'd never upgrade a pendrive install though (i'd install fresh for the next version)
[20:46] <ganimede> thoidingjam,  i did: bash | grep "." > test.txt
[20:46] <ganimede> and worked
[20:47] <mrbean> auronandance Me too, I download the new iso. OK, I'll install it and then I'll risk it, it's just a test pen drive. Thank you.
[20:47] <thoidingjam> plz show me the cmd i need ...;p
[20:47] <Liram> for?
[20:47] <ganimede> basically, i have opened a secondary shell (bash, more specifically), and all its ouput, through an all-accepting grep filter, went correctly to test.txt
[20:48] <ganimede> bash | grep "." > test.txt
[20:48] <auronandace> thoidingjam: you can borrow my pipe: |
[20:48] <ganimede> where bash is the shell, and test.txt the output file
[20:48] <ganimede> type exit when finished
[20:48] <thoidingjam> !define shell
[20:49] <thoidingjam> hmmm
[20:49] <ganimede> shell=console
[20:50] <thoidingjam> so i do the same type on the console where the client is running as.. bash | grep "." . name.txt?
[20:50] <DasEi> !terminal
[20:50] <thoidingjam> !shell
[20:50] <kratos> hello guys i have a question (noob question) and i was hopeing someone might help me out here
[20:50] <causative> I want the launcher to show all the time
[20:50] <kratos> can i install windows on the /home diskspace of linux
[20:50] <ganimede> thoidingjam, it is possible but beyond human reach
[20:50] <kratos> ?
[20:51] <DasEi> thoidingjam: either the above trml, or a tty out of x is most common for those commands given above
[20:51] <causative> it's a pain in the neck to have to first move the cursor to the left, then look for the icon I want, instead of finding the icon first and going to it
[20:51] <DasEi> !vm | kratos
[20:51] <auronandace> kratos: short answer :no
[20:51] <mrbean> kratos no. linux uses a filesystem (ext3) and windows needs its own (ntfs)
[20:51] <prezes> nick list on right side - how to?
[20:51] <auronandace> kratos: you can mount windows (ntfs/fat32) partitions or install a vm
[20:52] <AbstractBeliefs> is there a database where i can view packages in the apt-get repos and details about them? (mainly, dependencies)
[20:52] <thoidingjam> unknown c,d bash
[20:52] <thoidingjam> unknown cmd bash
[20:52] <DasEi> prezes: use xchat or pidgin, else lookup your messengers config, which you use ?
[20:52] <AbstractBeliefs> thoidingjam: try sh instead
[20:52] <Genjie> hello all..........
[20:52] <thoidingjam> hello. {ok
[20:52] <auronandace> !dash | thoidingjam
[20:53] <mrbean> AbstractBeliefs try packages.debian.org
[20:53] <prezes> i use irssi
[20:53] <prezes> i dont like gui software
[20:54] <Genjie> apt-get update E: faild http not found please help me...
[20:54] <thoidingjam> unknown cmd sh ;/
[20:54] <kratos> i guess some didnt understand my question, i think i asked it in the wrong way. my question is i want to make linux have an NTFS home diskspace and i want to install windows on the same partition, i was thinking that i will be able to see the windows files in linux, insted of giving each OS his bin partition and give them shared home partition (sorry for the long question)
[20:55] <tolmun> aohi
[20:55] <auronandace> kratos: no, you can't do that, why don't you just have a share partition that both can access
[20:55] <AbstractBeliefs> mrbean: that looks to be what i want, but is there one for lucid lynx specifically?
[20:55] <thoidingjam> AbstractBeliefs, unknown cmd sh
[20:55] <AbstractBeliefs> thoidingjam: see auronandace's message to you above
[20:56] <DasEi> prezes: #irssi; I don't know in detail, but irssi.org provides all kind of scripts you can play around with
[20:56] <ganimede> kratos, not sure you can, because the FS is very low level in linux (unix in general), it must be a tree-node structure that is not the one of NTFS. besides, there were copyrights issues in compiling a linux with the NTFS as primary partition
[20:56] <ganimede> on my side, i have removed windows completely and solved the issue
[20:56] <prezes> i know that just have a problem to run that scripts
[20:57] <mrbean> AbstractBeliefs sorry I read packages and thought debian. Let me google.
[20:57] <kratos> lol will removing windows will not solve mine, my problem is INSTALLING the windows
[20:57] <DasEi> kratos: you can do dualboot and have a shared partiton,possible, or an os inan os aka VM
[20:58] <AbstractBeliefs> mrbean: im just looking to get package info for gnat, and hopefully grab the .debs for those files, and gnat
[20:58] <kratos> so bottom line is if i want to make my home NTFS and install windows there it wont work!
[20:58] <DasEi> prezes: if no answer here, try in #irssi
[20:58] <andyk> can someone help me with mounting an ext4 filesystem on Ubuntu Server 10.04?
[20:58] <thoidingjam> AbstractBeliefs,  thats kratos
[20:58] <mrbean> AbstractBeliefs packages.ubuntu.com/ Provides package information from the official Ubuntu Package archive
[20:58] <DasEi> kratos: it would, but I won't recommend it
[20:59] <auronandace> !info gnat lucid | AbstractBeliefs
[20:59] <beat111> Please, plesae can anybody help me with this? http://pastebin.com/jXmShzVX
[20:59] <AbstractBeliefs> mrbean: perfect, thanks
[20:59] <AbstractBeliefs> auronandace: thanks also
[20:59] <DasEi> andyk: what's the problem ? open a terminal ..
[20:59] <prezes> i try like always gentoo chanel is best if u looking for help
[21:00] <beat111> After chrooting into my installed system my /home is empty and I can not fix grub
[21:00] <mrbean> AbstractBeliefs LUCID http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[21:00] <AbstractBeliefs> mrbean: yeah, im there now
[21:00] <AbstractBeliefs> mrbean: thanks for your help =]
[21:00] <guy__> ganimede, alright i did that but it's no good
[21:00] <andyk> well i have created a partition using fdisk on a raid5 array (hardware) and attempted to mount the partition to /media/raid5
[21:00] <beat111> Am I missing any steps or what am I doing wrong?
[21:00] <andyk> all i see is a lost+found dir though
[21:00] <ProxXy> Isnt it a big hassle to install drivers for say, a new printer, when using ubuntu?
[21:01] <guy__> can somebody please help hi,i've installed nvidia driver but it says "driver is activated but not in use". moreover when i run nvidia-settings i get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[21:01] <DasEi> beat111: beginning is right, you need additional mount --bind's for it to work, get off chroot and see second link of :
[21:01] <DasEi> !grub
[21:01] <kratos> DasEi you say it would! why dont you recommend it?
[21:01] <auronandace> andyk: if it is a freshly made partition that is all it would contain
[21:01] <andyk> well i used mkfs.ext4
[21:02] <ganimede> i am sorry, guy__ i'll have a look to what i have done to make it work
[21:02] <DasEi> kratos: fileatrributes, defrag, fsck,  and and .. ext is unix, ntfs is win
[21:02] <andyk> do I have to set certain permissions?
[21:02] <ProxXy> I need some help being convinced to switch to ubuntu instead of windows XD
[21:02] <auronandace> andyk: have you put anything on it yet?
[21:02] <guy__> ganimede, ok
[21:02] <ganimede> but i can tell, it was much worst activating the desktop cube, because i have virtually lost X, needed to go by the console several times to back up
[21:03] <andyk> no not yet, i used fdisk to create a new partition on /dev/cciss/c0d0
[21:03] <DasEi> kratos: you can have an dual boot and a shared additional partition, either ntfs or ext3
[21:03] <ganimede> but eventually, now I run the desktop cube, have also a custom skydome :D
[21:03] <andyk> creating /dev/cciss/c0d0p2
[21:03] <andyk> there was already a p1
[21:03] <auronandace> andyk: and what are you trying to do, sound like you've mounted it succesfully
[21:04] <andyk> yes i believe i have but i thought there should be a lot of directories or am i really confused
[21:04] <mich2000> hello, does anyone have any experience with a compaq mini cq10 100so?
[21:04] <guy__> ganimede, yeah on ubuntu 11.xx ,i don't think it would work.
[21:04] <beat111> DasEi: Where?
[21:04] <DasEi> beat111: until there (your pastie) you just /root  mounted, /boot and others (see link) are missing still)
[21:04] <DasEi> just mounted*
[21:04] <auronandace> ProxXy: depends on the printer
[21:04] <mrbean> beat111 Sorry, the only thing I can tell you is that I used rescatux to fix my grub2 a year ago.
[21:04] <guy__> ganimede, unity uses some compiz effects.i tried messing with it once
[21:05] <BluesKaj> ProxXy, download and burn a livecd is the easiest way for you , we don't convince ppl here to install ubuntu , we give them support after an install.
[21:05] <Loptr> Can someone help me improve my boot up time?
[21:05] <DasEi> mrbean: it's a crypted luks, which he already succesfully unlocked n mounted
[21:05] <webmind> Loptr, use less services usually helps
[21:05] <mrbean> aaaah ok
[21:05] <auronandace> andyk: you made a fresh ext4 partition and you've mounted it, there would only be the lost and found dir on it because you haven't put anything else on there
[21:05] <DasEi> !pm | kratos
[21:06] <DasEi> beat111: opened https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 ?
[21:07] <andyk> ok, for some reason I was assuming it would have its own prebuilt file structure, I want to run my web server and database server on the raid5 partition with all the actual files on it as well, my OS is on a raid 1 arrary, is this a good idea?
[21:07] <mich2000> hello, does anyone have any experience with a compaq mini cq10 100so?
[21:07] <ikonia> andyk: what type of raid, hardware/software/fake (host) raid
[21:08] <ProxXy> auronandace: well lets say an epson printer....my point is nearly all drivers with hardware devices such as printers, are windows drivers, what should one do about this?
[21:08] <DasEi> beat111: to be more precise : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot, mind /mnt/volume is your root and no /bin/bash to follow that mount-command
[21:08] <beat111> DasEi: Could you please have a look again: http://pastebin.com/qPhdMCeS
[21:08] <auronandace> !print | ProxXy
[21:08] <andyk> its a hardware controller on a G5 Hp Proliant DL380
[21:08] <wuhi> hey. i got some problems with sudo. my account has NO password. but if i use sudo i have to enter a passwort. what should i do?
[21:08] <ikonia> andyk: it's the ciss controller ?
[21:09] <kratos> i am so sorry for my PM DasEi, let me reask my PM question in here, how to mount the windows ntfs system partition as linux /home diskspace?
[21:09] <mrbean> wuhi did you try a blank password?
[21:09] <wuhi> mrbean : yeah i did
[21:09] <auronandace> ProxXy: in my experience (not a lot really) i find hp printers best supported (even works straight out the box for me)
[21:09] <andyk> I would guess so, although I dont quite know what cciss is in this case...this is my first server and I am also fairly new at ubuntu and linux in general
[21:10] <mrbean> wuhi well then it seems you need a password to sudo. no way around.
[21:10] <wuhi> mrbean im also unable to set a news passwort because i have to enter the old password ...
[21:10] <Duelisti> For some reason empathy msn feature has stopped working. It tries to connect to my account forever. My friend also has this problem. How can I fix this?
[21:10] <ikonia> andyk: the ciss controller in those machines is very good and have excellent linux support
[21:10] <ikonia> andyk: what's your actualy question about it ?
[21:10] <mrbean> wuhi in the old password did you try blank?
[21:10] <DasEi> kratos : in a minute
[21:10] <auronandace> wuhi: how did you suddenly have no password?
[21:11] <kratos> ok
[21:11] <wuhi> mrbean i did...
[21:11] <wuhi> auronandace : there is an option "none" .. "keine" in german on my user control form
[21:11] <andyk> I guess im not sure how to go about setting up my web server on my raid5 ext4 filesystem and any files in general
[21:11] <DHowett> I've got this pretty funny issue.. the text-based installer doesn't offer me a choice of kernel or whether to allow root to log in - UNLESS i explicitly fail a step of the install (like, hitting "install base system" with a base system just installed and telling it not to voerwrite it)
[21:11] <ikonia> andyk: raid disks are just the same as non-raid disks from the OS point of view,
[21:12] <ikonia> andyk: just treat it exactly the same
[21:12] <DasEi> beat111: you still mess a little there, rather use /mnt as root, and then it is /mbt/boot /mnt/dev   no volume needed in there, lil confusing, let me read on
[21:12] <auronandace> wuhi: user control form? you should have set a password at install time
[21:13] <andyk> but my misconception was when I created my ext4 i thought there would already be directory's such as '/' where I might set things up
[21:13] <DasEi> beat111: yep, that's the prob,and your (unencrypted) /boot still isn't mounted
[21:13] <beat111> DasEi: Could you give me a new paste how you would do it?
[21:13] <ikonia> andyk: not at all, when you install ubuntu it will create all the file systems for you
[21:13] <wuhi> auronandace : well i unset my passwort after installation
[21:13] <auronandace> wuhi: why?
[21:13] <andyk> do i just create my own directorys and folders? and then leave apache running on my raid 1 OS and point the web directory to /media/raid5 ?
[21:13] <wuhi> auronandace : because its my girlfriends pc and she does not want a passwort ^^
[21:14] <ikonia> !apache2 | andyk
[21:14] <andyk> directories* and files
[21:14] <auronandace> wuhi: did you tell her why that would be a bad idea?
[21:14] <andyk> yes apache2
[21:14] <andyk> not apache sorry
[21:14] <ikonia> andyk: the bot should give you a link in a minute
[21:14] <ikonia> !apache | andyk
[21:15] <wuhi> auronandace thats not the problem :( there is an option to use blank passwords in ubuntu. but it does not work
[21:15] <ikonia> andyk: if you go to https://help.ubuntu.com in the server section there is a guide on how to configure apache
[21:15] <ikonia> andyk: how big is your root disks (the raid 1 mirror set)
[21:15] <beat111> DasEi: New version: Please have a look: http://pastebin.com/sd3Yt5e1
[21:15] <andyk> yea i have a little bit of experience with apache, it is the raid5 and apache combination that I am trying to wrap my head around
[21:15] <auronandace> wuhi: what desktop environment are you using?
[21:16] <andyk> and more importantly the ext4 filesystem
[21:16] <ikonia> andyk: why does raid5 matter to you ? just treat it like a normal disk, that's all it is
[21:16] <ikonia> andyk: the file system is the same as any other file system you've ever used
[21:16] <wuhi> auronandace : i tihnk its gnome. just the default config of ubuntu 11.10
[21:17] <auronandace> wuhi: ah, thats unity (on top of gnome3), sorry i can't help you with that (i use xfce)
[21:17] <andyk> so if I wanted to put my website on the mounted raid5 all i would have to do is point apache www public file to the mounted raid5 folder?
[21:17] <wuhi> auronandace: ok thx
[21:17] <ikonia> andyk: yes, but why do you want to do that ? what is wrong with the current location ?
[21:18] <ikonia> andyk: as I said if you read the link on https://help.ubuntu.com it will tell you how to setup apache, as ubuntu uses a slightly different method for defining virtual hosts and document roots
[21:18] <beat111> DasEi: The problem is that after the cryptsetup luksOpen command and entering my password the disk seems to be unlocked but I don't get the message "key slot 0 unlocked" like in the tutorial I read.
[21:18] <andyk> well I have the OS on a two disk raid 1
[21:18] <andyk> and then i have five other disks in a raid5
[21:18] <ikonia> andyk: ok, so why don't you want to put the data on the mirror set ?
[21:18] <DasEi> beat111: stop pinging until I'm done, please , he ?
[21:19] <beat111> DasEi: Sorry, OK
[21:19] <mrbean> ñ
[21:19] <andyk> because I thought it might make my data more recoverable if i were to lose a hard drive
[21:19] <ProxXy> Is there much support availble for the latest version of ubuntu?
[21:19] <andyk> and there is more space
[21:19] <ikonia> andyk: nothing more recoverable than a mirror
[21:19] <ProxXy> Is it less stable than the .04?
[21:19] <guy__>  hi,i've installed nvidia-current driver but when i run nvidia-settings i get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.moreover when i run sudo nvidia-xconfig it says command not found
[21:20] <andyk> raid5 does mirroring correct?
[21:20] <ikonia> no
[21:20] <ikonia> andyk: raid5 is not mirrored
[21:20] <alexxio_> hi, i get a green only picture when grabbing from my webcam (logitech quickcam usb) with mplayer...anyone knows how can i play with v4l and v4l2?
[21:20] <Jaymac> for the past couple of days i've been having real issues connecting to msn via empathy in oneiric.. can't get on at all this evening
[21:21] <andyk> oh but I thought parity would take care of it because it would automatically rebuild the data
[21:21] <ikonia> andyk: parity does have a resillience layer, it's just a different approach than a mirror
[21:21] <Jaymac> tried removing telepathy-butterfly and reinstalling, removing the entire empathy install, but still no luck
[21:21] <Jaymac> anyone having similar issues?
[21:21] <Dren_> f
[21:22] <andyk> so what would you suggest ikonia, thanks for the great support too, this is my first time on the channel and irc in general
[21:22] <ikonia> andyk: how much space is on the mirror ?
[21:22] <hzilla_> hi , i have a public/private rsa key pair that i would like to place automatically on a remote ec2 webserver so that it can access my repo - the public key is already registered at the repo. do i just copy the keys to the new server or do i need to add something else too?
[21:22] <ikonia> andyk: as in the mirrored disk set, in /var/www - how much space is available
[21:22] <andyk> i believe about 145 GB on the raid5 and only 65 GB on the raid1
[21:23] <andyk> 65 GB
[21:23] <ikonia> andyk: ok - so your ubuntu install should not go aboe 8 - 10 GB, that leaves 55GB of data for your website, do you think your website will be 55GB ?
[21:23] <auronandace> Jaymac: i don't use empathy but i'm on msn with pidgin just fine
[21:23] <andyk> well probably not, im not completely sure it will be MySQL intensive
[21:24] <DasEi> beat111: http://pastebin.com/vizf1dAp
[21:24] <Jaymac> auronandace, pidgin is just about to be installed.. haven't used it in years
[21:24] <ikonia> andyk: I can't see it being 55GB
[21:24] <ikonia> andyk: I'd keep it as simple as possible, especially the document root position (as I'll repeat to make sure it's clear, apache uses a different methods to define the document root and virtual hosts)
[21:24] <DasEi> kratos :got your answer already?
[21:25] <andyk> *well the site is still in development using YII framework, PHP, MySQL and revolves around mp3 files which I will host on the server
[21:25] <beat111> DasEi: Thank you. I will try it.
[21:25] <ikonia> andyk: still doesn't change anything I've said
[21:25] <guy__>  hi,i've installed nvidia-current driver but when i run nvidia-settings i get "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.moreover when i run sudo nvidia-xconfig it says command not found.please help
[21:26] <prezes> #join gentoo
[21:26] <ska> DO I need vino-server to do Remote desktop/vnc?
[21:26] <Jaymac> auronandace, pidgin works fine
[21:26] <Jaymac> unsurprisingly
[21:26] <ikonia> guy__: gksudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:26] <DasEi> beat111: uups, and forget your old lines following the recheck in line 30, I saw too late your old rest there
[21:26] <ikonia> guy__: and install nvidia-xconfig
[21:26] <auronandace> !yay | Jaymac
[21:26] <Jaymac> maybe this is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back
[21:26] <kratos> half of it DasEi! i want to know how to use the NTFS partition as my linux /home and if it would effect windows
[21:26] <andyk> alright, but one more thing my most valuable data will not be the code, I can have multiple copies of that somewhere, but it will be the MySQL tables and the mp3 files, should that be in the raid5 then?
[21:26] <Jaymac> I fell out with Pidgin years ago - maybe time to start using it again :)
[21:26] <ikonia> andyk: no
[21:27] <ikonia> andyk: the mirror
[21:27] <auronandace> kratos: you don't
[21:27] <andyk> what if a disk fails?
[21:27] <ikonia> andyk: just take regular exports/backups,
[21:27] <guy__> ikonia, i tried sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig but it says command not found
[21:27] <ikonia> andyk: if a disk fails, nothing will matter, because it's mirrored
[21:27] <ikonia> guy__: command not found or package not found ?
[21:27] <andyk> then do i have to manually rebuild the new disk i put in
[21:27] <ikonia> andyk: well, not manually, you put it in and re-add it to the raid array and it will mirror from the running disk
[21:27] <guy__> ikonia, sorry that output comes when i run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:28] <ikonia> guy__: ok, that's why I said install it
[21:28] <DasEi> kratos: you CAn have ntfs in linux, but loose a lot of linux capabilities then. first tip would be an additional shared parti, second a home in ext3 (ubu) that win can (by a "plugin") can also read n  write
[21:28] <andyk> so what is the benefit of a raid5 array then? Ive read somewhere of people migrating MySQL to raid5
[21:28] <seion> Question, Im an using ubuntu server 11.10 after I install it rebooted and shot straight to my monitor saying something like can't display resolution 1280xbla bla
[21:28] <guy__> ikonia,when i try to install it says unable to locate package
[21:28] <Jaymac> auronandace, just before i dig around too much, is it possible to integrate pidgin into the messaging menu?
[21:28] <seion> I can ssh into the box
[21:28] <ikonia> andyk: well, for massive sites with super hi I/O operations that can be a benifit
[21:29] <ikonia> !info nvidia-xconfig
[21:29] <auronandace> Jaymac: not sure what you mean sorry, i use xfce
[21:29] <andyk> is raid1 slower than raid5?
[21:29] <DasEi> !raid | andyk
[21:29] <Jaymac> auronandace, no worries
[21:29] <ikonia> andyk: it depends on the situattion
[21:29] <ikonia> situation
[21:29] <ikonia> !info nvidia-config
[21:29] <ikonia> !find nvidia
[21:29] <Tech163> !info php5
[21:30] <ikonia> guy__: it's nvidia-settings
[21:30] <aaaabc> hello
[21:30] <DasEi> andyk: wikipedia explains fine, there are setups for redundancy, speed , or both features in one
[21:30] <kratos> i understand that i will lose allot of Ext3 functions but what i dont understand is its possible but not recommened or its impossible to do!!!
[21:30] <Tech163> !find php5
[21:30] <guy__> ikonia, tried that it told me to run nvidia-xconfig
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !nvidia-xconfig
[21:30] <beat111> DasEi: Should it be in line 9: sudo mount /dev/mapper/crypt /mnt   ??
[21:30] <ikonia> guy__: what did
[21:31] <andyk> ok so in terms of apache is it the best idea to keep the apache program and data files in one raid array or to separate the two if i wanted apache to run on a raid1 and the website to be pulled from a raid5
[21:31] <aaaabc> I forgot my password for ubuntu login. How do I reset the password?
[21:31] <ikonia> aaaabc: boot into single user mode (recovery mode) and change it
[21:31] <mich2000> can i use an external cd-drive to boot an OS?
[21:31] <ikonia> mich2000: if your bios supports it
[21:31] <DasEi> andyk: long speak in short, you can make say 5 hd's in 1 Tb each to a superfast n safe 2TB, the faster the more diskspace "lost" (over the thumb)
[21:32] <cemc> I'm using 11.10. Is there a way to set shortcuts to workspaces? Like Ctrl+1 for workspace 1, Ctrl+2 for WS2 etc
[21:32] <guy__> ikonia, http://imgur.com/KKKe2
[21:33] <DasEi> beat111: look in /dev/mapper yourself, I thought you already figured correct identifier out, that /dev is needed for /mnt
[21:33] <ikonia> guy__: how did you install the nvidia driver ?
[21:34] <andyk> alright well thanks for all the good info, i'm going to go experiment some more
[21:34] <ikonia> andyk: is this thing home hosted or a data center ?
[21:34] <DasEi> beat111: luksopen on crypt might also have been told, but an ls in /dev/mapper will show correct device, it's not /dev/crypt
[21:34] <andyk> its home, mainly for self-learning purposes
[21:34] <egc> hi all, is there a way to pass boot arguments with reboot?  I would like to reboot into single user mode
[21:34] <ikonia> andyk: ok - so forget raid 5 and just use the mirror
[21:34] <beat111> sudo mount /dev/mapper/crypt /mnt gives: mount: unknown filesystem type "LVM2_member"
[21:35] <ikonia> andyk: you're not going to gain anything and you're going to make your setup over complex for no reason
[21:35] <beat111> DasEi: sudo mount /dev/mapper/crypt /mnt gives: mount: unknown filesystem type "LVM2_member"
[21:35] <DasEi> andyk: if you got some, least two hardrives free, mdadm is a very nice neasy thing to cope raid
[21:35] <aleprovencio> hello all, can anyone please tell me why "dpkg -l '*garmin*'" does not return garmin-ant-downloader, garmin-forerunner-tools and "apt-cache search garmin" does?
[21:35] <guy__> ikonia, first from system->administration->additional drivers and then i did sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current
[21:35] <DasEi> !info mdadm
[21:35] <ikonia> DasEi: he doesn't want that
[21:35] <ikonia> DasEi: he's got an excellent raid controller in the HP machine
[21:35] <DasEi> beat111: see above
[21:36] <DasEi> ikonia: wanna buy, heh
[21:36] <DasEi> ok
[21:36] <andyk> alright I also set one drive as a swap drive but not completely sure what that means?
[21:36] <ikonia> guy__: if you go into the additional drivers tool now, does it show the driver as active
[21:36] <kratos> DasEi: i think you forgot about me my friend :)
[21:36] <ikonia> andyk: you've wasted a whole disk on swap ?
[21:36] <ikonia> andyk: sure it wasn't one partition
[21:36] <guy__> ikonia, it says activated but not in use
[21:36] <auronandace> !swap | andyk
[21:36] <beat111> DasEi: Ls /dev/mapper gives: control crypt
[21:37] <andyk> oh ok that makes sense now
[21:37] <Neosano> Hello, I have to create a video with some photos, short videos and some text. which software should I use?
[21:37] <seion> Fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 server, after after it picks up OS Monitors goes into Cannot display this video mode???
[21:37] <DasEi> beat111: /dev/mapper/crypt, unless it's a dir
[21:37] <andyk> well i knew i was wasting the drive but im just learning right now so its ok nothing important is being hosted yet
[21:38] <ikonia> andyk: your swap partition should be roughly the same size as your memory
[21:38] <beat111> DasEi: It is not a dir.
[21:38] <ikonia> guy__: you should have nvidia-xconfig on your machine then
[21:38] <DasEi> kratos: no good idea, a shared home, as the oses will conflict in overwriting /sys-parti win n /data-parti ntfs
[21:38] <andyk> will ubuntu automaticly use the swap if the RAM is full or do i have to configure it somewher?
[21:38] <DasEi> beat111: /dev/mapper/crypt
[21:38] <cemc> I can't find the shortcut 'Switch to workspace X'. did it just disappear?
[21:39] <ikonia> andyk: it will auto use it, but if you're swapping out, your in trouble
[21:39] <DasEi> andyk: does so, can configure swapiness though, but oc a swap parti must be there
[21:39] <andyk> i shouldnt need it anytime soon i have 8GB RAM
[21:39] <auronandace> Neosano: you could try openshot
[21:39] <ikonia> andyk: it should use a bit, it will swap out (good) unused programs
[21:40] <DasEi> kratos: what is wrong with a dualboot and an extra shared partiton ? ext3 ?
[21:40] <andyk> programs that are in ZOMBIE or SLEEP mode?
[21:40] <rabbi1> how can i install log4php ?
[21:40] <ikonia> andyk: not zombie, but certainly sleep
[21:41] <Neosano> auronandace, yeah, trying to use it right now, How can I make a thing with text+photo near to it simultaneously?
[21:41] <morrna> anyone know anything about installing a dual boot well?  ubuntu keeps messing up my win7 boot
[21:41] <guy__> ikonia, i don't have that's the thing
[21:41] <DasEi> !dualboot
[21:41] <andyk> alright well I should be able to move a bit further in my server adventures now thank you
[21:41] <DasEi> morrna: ^
[21:41] <urthmover> is there a specific channel for server related questions?
[21:41] <ikonia> guy__: do "sudo find / -name nvidia-xconfig -print 2>/dev/null
[21:42] <auronandace> Neosano: sorry i'm not sure, i haven't tried doing text in it (just video and music)
[21:42] <Neosano> urthmover, #ubuntu-server as far as I remember
[21:42] <morrna> yeah i've followed those intstructions and after that grub didn't have win7 as an entry
[21:42] <DasEi> morrna: first install win7, then grub, os-prober should find win and integrate it
[21:42] <kratos> well thank you very much DasEi but i think you dont understand the defrance between giving an info and an openion! what i need is an info, but for some resean you just keep going around the main point in my question. i think am going to dig this thing alone! again thanks and sorry for takeing from time
[21:42] <morrna> and then
[21:43] <morrna> and then i couldn't repair win7's boot record so i had to do a total wipe again; wasted 8 hours
[21:43] <auronandace> kratos: you don't seem to understand the importance of having the /home partition on a linux filesystem
[21:43] <Guest6132> cinelerra
[21:44] <DasEi> kratos: win sys-parti same as /home for linux, noo good idea
[21:45] <kratos> auronandace: i do understand it but i am willing to give that in the sake of my needs! and DasEi you still talking about if its a good idea or not, not saying if its applicable or not! what a wast of time
[21:45] <DasEi> morrna: why couldn you repair win 7 ? efi ? too less space in mbr ?
[21:46] <auronandace> kratos: explain to me why you want the /home partition as ntfs
[21:46] <morrna> i don't know, it stopped recognizing the os even tho it was still on the hd
[21:47] <urthmover> too quiet
[21:47] <morrna> i've got plenty of space everywhere it was just weirdly not recognizing what was there
[21:47] <DasEi> morrna: in which line did you install win, then ubu ?
[21:48] <DasEi> or order=line
[21:48] <morrna> i installed win7, then ubuntu
[21:48] <morrna> then grub2 didn't recognize win7
[21:48] <DasEi> morrna: ubu booted but had no enty for win ?
[21:48] <DasEi> entry*
[21:48] <morrna> ya that's what happened
[21:48] <kratos> auronandace: the dev's in my company developed a tool to perform (tasks) on windows files and it need to be on the /home dir so instead of keep copying those files from the windows serv 2008 to the home dir of ubuntu i want to mount the whole system part as the ubuntu /home
[21:49] <DasEi> morrna: tried to run os-prober in ubuntu ?
[21:49] <mathi> hi
[21:49] <guy__> ikonia, /usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[21:49] <ProxXy> If i have many windows up in ubuntu, how do i quickly go to the main desktop?
[21:49] <morrna> i didn't know about os-prober, i'll try it if it happens again
[21:49] <Urchin> how do I make virtual terminals use normal 80 width in ubuntu 10.04, and how do I stop the blinking cursor?
[21:49] <auronandace> kratos: and these devs know you've installed ubuntu?
[21:49] <mathi> is there any soft which allow to convert sound (from a wav file) to text ?
[21:50] <mathi> automatically takes a file input and convert it
[21:50] <morrna> @DasEi  is os-prober safe to run from inside ubuntu?
[21:50] <DasEi> morrna: please put nick in answers, as I otherwise might oversee them
[21:50] <kratos> the app is developed for ubunto, in the company's network thats what they did and thats what they told me to do
[21:50] <DasEi> ah, yes, morrna, it is
[21:50] <morrna> @DasEi ok
[21:50] <guy__> ikonia, would you care to look at my xorg.0.log as well http://pastebin.com/fmfT5tQU
[21:51] <morrna> @DasEi thanks for the tip
[21:51] <auronandace> kratos: from what you've said it sounds as if this app is very poorly written (and likely windows specific)
[21:51] <DasEi> morrna: both is always possible without fresh reinstall, repair win-loader as is reinstalling grub
[21:51] <kratos> they didnt give me info about it so am trying to find the answer here so am not asking if its good or bad to do! i know its a big mess to use NTFS in linux! i mean who need it and am with you in that! but thats my case
[21:51] <guy__> ikonia, my xorg.conf is also missing as well as xorg.conf.nvidia from /etc/X11
[21:51] <DasEi> morrna: for win ask in ##windows here it is :
[21:52] <DasEi> !grub
[21:52] <kratos> and yes its poorly written with no opetions and it just modfiy windows system files to do one job only on them
[21:52] <auronandace> kratos: then i suggest you hire better devs that know what they are doing
[21:53] <DasEi> morrna: I rather gues you never saw grub's menu , could that be ?
[21:53] <morrna> @DasEi no i got to the grub menu fine, but it only had entries for ubuntu and ubuntu recovery mode
[21:53] <guy__> ikonia, you there?
[21:54] <ikonia> guy__: I am now
[21:54] <DasEi> morrna: ah ok, so os-prober or a fix first of win, then grub again should have done the trick
[21:54] <morrna> all right
[21:54] <kratos> lol back to the openions! guys cumon! i really need to know if its APPLICABLE to mount NTFS system partion as the linux /home or not and if its going to effect my windows OS! thats all, i have a demo to perform tomorow and i need to be ready! am travling now and i cant ask help from the dev's! its holday even in my country now :(
[21:55] <ikonia> kratos: no, it's not
[21:55] <morrna> @DasEi I may have to go ask about the problems with win7 first, because the recovery disk wasn't able to get win7 booting again
[21:55] <DasEi> morrna: no need for full reinstall, problems there can be is when mbr is too small, efi is used, but there are workarounds, too
[21:55] <ikonia> kratos: 1.) it is a bad thing to do for linux 2.) it will not effect your linux disk, however it will not making using it easy
[21:55] <_chaos_> dsl is more like dialup these days
[21:55] <guy__> ikonia, so what shoul i do?? if you see my xorg.0.log there is no xorg.conf
[21:56] <morrna> @DasEi  how small is too small? I'm pretty sure my mbr was sitting on at least 100 MB
[21:56] <ikonia> guy__: there should not be an xorg.conf at this time - did you run the find command I told you
[21:56] <guy__> ikonia, yes i posted it here
[21:56] <DasEi> morrna: na, it's ~512 first blocks commonly, you talk about /boot (partition), mbr is masterbootrecord
[21:56] <ikonia> guy__: I didn't see that, did you find the command ?
[21:56] <DasEi> !mbr
[21:57] <kratos> why you all guys keep just telling me if its bad or good :( i know its bad IT IS BAD but i need it!!!! i need to know if its applicable!! guys i need to do this once and then i swear am gonna trach the laptop!! why cant you guys stop giving me openions and give me some facts :'(
[21:57] <guy__> ikonia, /usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[21:57] <guy__> ikonia, i'm sure it's not a command
[21:57] <TheOnlyJoey> Good day
[21:57] <yakeb_> !
[21:57] <ikonia> guy__: doesn't seem like the right place for it, but fair enough
[21:57] <ikonia> guy__: why do you think that ?
[21:57] <guy__> ikonia, just guessing
[21:58] <go8765> cam anybody help me please to use mouse with keyboard in openbox ?
[21:58] <ikonia> guy__: don't guess, you're assuming a file is not a binary for no reason
[21:58] <ikonia> guy__: why don't you run it as the instructions told you - use gksudo
[21:58] <DasEi> morrna: in the first sectors there is no 'usual fileacces from OS, but first thing biaos calls on a hd, this loader then tells where on hd actual files are stored
[21:58] <ProxXy> If i have many windows up in ubuntu, how do i quickly go to the main desktop?
[21:58] <DasEi> bios*
[21:59] <guy__> ikonia, nothing comes up
[21:59] <ikonia> guy__: what command did you run exactly
[21:59] <morrna> @DasEi and how does one look at the mbr? i know how to use the bootrec.exe utility from the windows recovery disk but that's about it
[21:59] <ansel> hello
[21:59] <escott> ProxXy, try super (windows key)+D
[21:59] <guy__> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/fmfT5tQU this is my xorg.0.log
[21:59] <ikonia> guy__: I didn't ask for your xorg.log
[22:00] <ikonia> guy__: what command did you run exactly
[22:00] <guy__> ikonia, gksudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:00] <ikonia> guy__: no
[22:00] <ikonia> guy__: use the full path
[22:00] <mrbean> envidia means envy in spanish. cool.
[22:00] <guy__> ikonia, oh ok
[22:00] <DasEi> morrna: again, ask in ##windows, I haven't looked in it since xp, there it was fixmbr, igfu
[22:01] <morrna> DasEi: ok, but if you know of a way to work with it from within ubuntu that could help too
[22:01] <guy__> ikonia, ran it, just asks me for the password then nothing
[22:01] <escott> morrna, you can just read the contents of the mbr by accessing /dev/sda but why you would want to do that is beyond me
[22:02] <ikonia> guy__: it should bring up a gui
[22:02] <DasEi> morrna: http://tinyurl.com/34bxdt2
[22:02] <guy__> ikonia, gksudo /usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin/nvidia-xconfig this is what i ran
[22:03] <morrna> DasEi: thanks i'll see what i can do with this
[22:03] <guy__> ikonia, no i didn't get any gui
[22:04] <DasEi> morrna: ask in ##windows, os'es tend to change, or even (if systems aren't erased) try an alternate bootloader , bootcamp or such
[22:04] <zacarias> when trying to install libldap2-dev with Synaptic, it says   "Depends: libldap-2.4-2 (=2.4.23-0ubuntu3.5) but 2.4.23-0ubuntu3.6 is to be installed". However, it's installed!
[22:05] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  there's an upgrade that supercedes 2.4.23-0ubuntu3.5
[22:05] <scorinitron> I'm trying to find a linux os that will use the hardware in my computer without wasting any resources
[22:05] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  i.e. the latest is 2.4.23-0ubuntu3.6 therefore the package manager is installing that
[22:06] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: as in how?
[22:06] <Gentoo64> ram and that?
[22:06] <scorinitron> gentoo64: yeah
[22:06] <ikonia> scorinitron: no linux distro would waste your resources
[22:06] <zacarias> EvilResistance: but synaptic shows that I have 2.4.23-0ubuntu3.6
[22:06] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: depends what you want from the os
[22:06] <escott> scorinitron, define "waste" is having getty running tty1 considered a waste?
[22:07] <Gentoo64> you could run in console only
[22:07] <Gentoo64> but whod want that for a desktop
[22:07] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  ***READ*** the statements
[22:07] <scorinitron> well I can't multi-task
[22:07] <zacarias> EvilResistance:?
[22:07] <scorinitron> it freezes every 10 minutes
[22:07] <ikonia> scorinitron: linux will allow you to multi-task
[22:07] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  "Depends: libldap-2.4-2 (=2.4.23-0ubuntu3.5)"  Is 2.4.23-0ubuntu3.5 equal to 2.4.23-0ubuntu3.6
[22:07] <ikonia> scorinitron: that is most likley a hardware error, or an incompatible hardware component with linux
[22:07] <EvilResistance> ?
[22:07] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: how much ram do you have?
[22:07] <scorinitron> 2GB
[22:08] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: it does sound like a hardware error
[22:08] <Gentoo64> unless you're using all the ram
[22:08] <zacarias> EvilResistance: so I should downgrade it?
[22:09] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  either that or not use what you're trying to install.
[22:09] <scorinitron> 2GB on a Intel Pentium 4  3.00ghz Dual Core Processor
[22:09] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  or file a bug against what you're trying to install saying they should update their package(s)
[22:09] <scorinitron> is their anything I can do about that?
[22:09] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  i rarely recommend downgrading anything
[22:09] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  what package are you trying to install?
[22:09] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: try a lighter desktop maybe
[22:09] <zacarias> EvilResistance: it's Libreoffice. How can I downgrade it?
[22:09] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: itll be faster eithe rway
[22:09] <scorinitron> well...
[22:10] <scorinitron> I don't really have any spares
[22:10] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  that should have already been installed *runs tests*  what distro?  11.04, 11.10?
[22:10] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: spare what?
[22:10] <scorinitron> Desktops
[22:10] <scorinitron> I build computers
[22:10] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: what do you mean
[22:10] <scorinitron> lol
[22:10] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:10] <Gentoo64> so do i
[22:10] <ProxXy> thanks escott
[22:10] <scorinitron> yeah ;) sweet
[22:10] <auronandace> scorinitron: he means a lighter desktop environment (like xfce or lxde)
[22:11] <scorinitron> oh...
[22:11] <zacarias> EvilResistance: I have 10.10 on powerpc. 11.04 is slow and 11.10 has booting problems
[22:11] <scorinitron> educate me?
[22:11] <Gentoo64> ah i thought you was joking
[22:11] <scorinitron> lol
[22:11] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  ah.
[22:11] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: i take it you're on plain normal ubuntu
[22:11] <scorinitron> yeah
[22:11] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  i'm not sure i'll be able to assist - i'm on 11.04 + KDE
[22:11] <EvilResistance> :/
[22:11] <vto> hello, do you know of any app (gnome applet that can put in a bar) to switch various languages of the system spellchecker?
[22:11] <scorinitron> I started with 10.04
[22:11] <EvilResistance> zacarias:  but you now know the issue
[22:11] <scorinitron> just switched from windows 7
[22:11] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: well theres other verions like lubuntu and xubuntu.. google them
[22:12] <scorinitron> hmmm
[22:12] <Gentoo64> they will run faster
[22:12] <Gentoo64> and be more stable
[22:12] <scorinitron> I need something that is a hell of a lot better than ubunt
[22:12] <scorinitron> u
[22:12] <Griwes> anyone knowing where i can find gcc-4.7 package? i had it on my machine around month ago, but i can't find it anywhere in the internet...
[22:12] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: try lubuntu on livecd
[22:12] <zacarias> EvilResistance: sure. So it's impossible to install libreoffice on 10.10?
[22:12] <scorinitron> light ubuntu?
[22:13] <Gentoo64> lxde (the desktop)
[22:13] <auronandace> !lubuntu | scorinitron
[22:13] <Urchin> how do I get rid of small font in virtual terminal, and return to 80x25?
[22:13] <scorinitron> um....
[22:13] <scorinitron> What a minute
[22:13] <scorinitron> u telling me I can change the IDE?
[22:13] <scorinitron> XD srry
[22:13] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: you can change the way the desktop looks
[22:13] <scorinitron> thinking C++
[22:13] <aleprovencio> hello all, can anyone please tell me why "dpkg -l '*garmin*'" does not return garmin-ant-downloader, garmin-forerunner-tools and "apt-cache search garmin" does?
[22:14] <scorinitron> really?
[22:14] <scorinitron> how?
[22:14] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: of course. i take it you're new to linux
[22:14] <scorinitron> yeah
[22:14] <scorinitron> really new
[22:14] <beat111> DasEi: Still there?
[22:14] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: google image these: kde  lxde  xfce
[22:14] <DasEi> beat111: y
[22:14] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: theres more
[22:14] <escott> scorinitron, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu-desktop etc)
[22:15] <DasEi> beat111: what is /is not up ?
[22:15] <scorinitron> ok
[22:15] <beat111> DasEi: I just tried http://pastebin.com/vizf1dAp and I think it worked. I am at line 30 now and it worked. However the remaining lines are they really necessarry? They produce errors.
[22:16] <scorinitron> At least I'm familiar with the terminal :)
[22:16] <DasEi> beat111: see above, second, I rephrase it
[22:16] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: from windows?
[22:16] <DasEi> beat111: uups, and forget your old lines following the recheck in line 30, I saw too late your old rest there
[22:16] <auronandace> scorinitron: if you know exactly what you want you could try the mini.iso
[22:17] <auronandace> !mini | scorinitron
[22:17] <zacarias> EvilResistance: Thanks, anyway.
[22:17] <DasEi> beat111: said approx 20 min before, so no quit there, sudo reboot
[22:17] <Gentoo64> auronandace: he is very new he said and didnt even know you could change the desktop
[22:17] <Gentoo64> :)
[22:17] <scorinitron> Gentoo64, well I am new but I can use the terminal
[22:17] <scorinitron> lol
[22:18] <auronandace> scorinitron: define "use the terminal"
[22:18] <beat111> So I can stop at line 30 then?
[22:18] <beat111> DasEi: So I can stop at line 30 then?
[22:18] <beat111> DasEi: Sorry my WLAN connectin is unstable and I get kicked off the chat all the time. I was not able to read your comment.
[22:18] <beat111> DasEi: So after line 30 I should try a sudo reboot and it should work you say? :)
[22:18] <scorinitron> download programs, run programs
[22:18] <scorinitron> yeah let me rephrase that
[22:18] <scorinitron> I have basic knowledge of the terminal
[22:18] <Urchin> who requested small hard to see fonts in the virtual terminal?
[22:19] <scorinitron> VEry basic
[22:19] <DasEi> beat111: what did the recheck said ? all fine ? yes can reboot then
[22:19] <scorinitron> I just took what I learned from Windows's CMD
[22:19] <cosmosis> Anyone know why ubuntu 11.10 halts on install after detecting usb devices?   Brand new system 8 core amd with 16 gig of memory
[22:19] <wagnergsantos> hello!
[22:19] <scorinitron> and found the terminal equivalent
[22:19] <Urchin> my eyes hurt
[22:19] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: youll find linux terminal much niver to use
[22:19] <auronandace> scorinitron: in that case try lubuntu as somebody already suggested
[22:20] <scorinitron> lubuntu....I'll look into it but I kinda want to step away from ubuntu all together
[22:20] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: why?
[22:20] <wagnergsantos> i'm having problem to connect to msn with empathy or emesene, someone can help me?
[22:20] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: if its a bad experience maybe its due to the gnome 3 / unity stuff
[22:20] <auronandace> scorinitron: then you are asking in the wrong room :)
[22:20] <scorinitron> XD
[22:20] <scorinitron> what do you run gentoo
[22:20] <shishire> lol
[22:20] <escott> Urchin, you can change the framebuffer resolution with a kernel boot parameter. specify it in /etc/default/grub. you may also be able to use something like fbset im not sure
[22:21] <scorinitron> and you auronandace
[22:21] <auronandace> scorinitron: xubuntu and archlinux
[22:21] <scorinitron> ok I heard of archlinux
[22:21] <scorinitron> and xubuntu
[22:21] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: you still havent stated what you actually want from a distro
[22:21] <scorinitron> archlinux is kinda like genome
[22:21] <scorinitron> um....
[22:22] <scorinitron> hmmm
[22:22] <auronandace> scorinitron: i like xfce, you can install it in ubuntu with: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:22] <DasEi> Urchin: terminal ? it can be simply set under edit
[22:23] <scorinitron> I kinda want to learn bash and how to program....but I don't want my OS to be wasting resources. Let me but it this way
[22:23] <scorinitron> I have a 320GB hard drive on my pc
[22:23] <shishire> scorinitron: than you want one of the lightweight versions of ubuntu.  Try xubuntu or lubuntu
[22:23] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: a lighter DE will save a ot of resources more than anything
[22:23] <DasEi> scorinitron: vm is your friend for fork's experiments
[22:23] <scorinitron> what's vm...Virtual machine?
[22:24] <wagnergsantos> hello, there are some problem with empathy msn protocol
[22:24] <wagnergsantos> ?
[22:24] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: distros like archlinux etc might be more minimal but it will only be in disk space, not in resources mostly
[22:24] <DasEi> yes, scorinitron,
[22:24] <DasEi> !vm
[22:24] <scorinitron> cool
[22:24] <DasEi> scorinitron: the advantage is, if you mess up, it's not the host, just a file on your system
[22:25] <scorinitron> cool
[22:25] <mediaslave> I want to create a symlink that every user of the box needs access to, what directory should that go in?
[22:25] <scorinitron> I see, i see
[22:25] <scorinitron> now what
[22:25] <scorinitron> is better
[22:25] <escott> mediaslave, what should the symlink do
[22:25] <Gentoo64> mediaslave: make one and chmod it
[22:25] <scorinitron> xubunt or lubuntu?
[22:25] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: lubuntu would be better on resources
[22:25] <DasEi> !best | scorinitron
[22:25] <auronandace> scorinitron: try both and see which you like, lubuntu would be the lighter of those
[22:26] <mediaslave> escott: it is a link to firefox
[22:26] <DasEi> scorinitron: I haven't followed your conversation, possibly lightwight or a 'foolproof way for experiments ?
[22:26] <shishire> scorinitron: Gnome and unity, which is probably what you're feeling the resource hogging from, are just two components that can be swapped out.  I use xfce (xubuntu) for a much lighter weight experience, while still getting the advantage of having the ubuntu repos at my disposal.
[22:26] <escott> mediaslave, /usr/local/bin
[22:26] <mediaslave> escott thank you!
[22:27] <scorinitron> ok I'll check out xfce
[22:27] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: easier to just put both on cds and try them live
[22:27] <scorinitron> ok
[22:28] <maheshk> my scp to a local virtual box image is very very slow and I suspect its because of proxy I'm using.
[22:28] <MeQuerSat> I've been dumb and executed "sudo chmod -R 664 /media/disk0_backup"
[22:28] <scorinitron> Thanks Gentoo64 sounds like a plan ^^
[22:28] <DasEi> scorinitron: yes, just start anyware, mostly can have mixed desktops on one host, sometimes libs/dependenciece cause trouble, use vm's to play around
[22:28] <MeQuerSat> Now all my folders and files are gone
[22:28] <maheshk> I tried scp'ng same file without proxy and that seems to be faster. How can i tell SCP not to use proxy
[22:28] <wagnergsantos> hello, there are some problem with empathy msn protocol?
[22:28] <scorinitron> Gentoo64, can I add u as a friend
[22:28] <Gentoo64> wagnergsantos: a few people have come in asking that
[22:29] <go8765> cam anybody help me please to use mouse with keyboard in openbox ?
[22:29] <scorinitron> ok guys....I wanted to know something else
[22:29] <MeQuerSat> Anyway I can undo it ?
[22:29] <scorinitron> that I am a total noob at
[22:29] <scorinitron> I've been trying to get tor running
[22:29] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: just apt-get install tor
[22:29] <DasEi> scorinitron: np, which distro, oneiric ?
[22:30] <scorinitron> yep
[22:30] <Gentoo64> actually you might need a ppa im not sure
[22:30] <DasEi> Gentoo64: might need the repo
[22:30] <DasEi> y, second
[22:30] <Gentoo64> yeah i think its on tors site
[22:30] <auronandace> !tor | scorinitron
[22:30] <maheshk> how to tell scp to bypass proxy?
[22:30] <xsaidx> hello guys
[22:30] <scorinitron> DasEi, yep this thing is killing me...I'm a total noob...when it comes to installing things XD
[22:30] <cosmosis> I am installing ubuntu 11.10 on a brand new system.  8 core AMD FX-8150 CPU with a ASUS M5A97 -- AMD 970 motherboard and 16 gig of ram.   When I go to install I get as far as  864 and detecting the usb keyboard and then it just hangs.  Any ideas?
[22:31] <Gentoo64> !ppa | scorinitron
[22:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: do you need tor for irc?
[22:31] <Gentoo64> or general stuff
[22:31] <scorinitron> yea XD
[22:31] <xsaidx> if i dont see bios and i dont get the grub menu for many time when i run my pc which log file shud i look into ? thanks
[22:31] <Gentoo64> you can go to freenode and ask for a hostmask
[22:31] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: ^
[22:31] <Gentoo64> its much faster and more reliable
[22:32] <Gentoo64> tor depends on other connections, its too random and frustrating. i rarely use it
[22:32] <scorinitron> !hostmask | scorinitron
[22:32] <scorinitron> what's a host mask?
[22:32] <Gentoo64> so it doesnt show your ip
[22:33] <Gentoo64> it will show unaffiliated instead (by default)
[22:33] <scorinitron> how would I do this?
[22:33] <Gentoo64> ask in #freenode
[22:33] <fellayaboy> scorinitron, ask for a cloak
[22:33] <DasEi> scorinitron: a claok will hide your ip in irc, tor is for "anonymous" browsing
[22:33] <fellayaboy> go to freenode and ask for a cloak scorinitron one of the staff will cloak u
[22:33] <Gentoo64> DasEi: tor still works
[22:34] <DasEi> as do exitnodes, hehe
[22:34] <Gentoo64> yeah
[22:34] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: hello waht log file i must check if i dont see my bios and my grub menu and nethin work when the pc its on
[22:34] <escott> xsaidx, if you arent able to boot there will be no log files
[22:35] <auronandace> xsaidx: if you can't access your bios that isn't an OS problem
[22:35] <xsaidx> escott: noo the pc goes on its just that the keyboard doesnt work and my monitor stay black but the oc its o n
[22:35] <EvilResistance> xsaidx:  there wont be logs if your computer cant reach BIOS.  You'll need to contact a computer technician for help.
[22:35] <Ufunny> whats up everyone
[22:36] <xsaidx> guys but after many tries my pc boot normaly
[22:36] <auronandace> Ufunny: planes, the sky...
[22:37] <escott> xsaidx, sounds like you have some hardware issues. you need to have someone look into it
[22:37] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, do you not see it post?
[22:37] <DasEi> xsaidx: try /var/log/syslog  or dmesg > dmesg.txt && cat dmesg.txt
[22:38] <DasEi> xsaidx: do a memcheck and a fsck from live-cd un UN-mounted hd
[22:38] <DasEi> night all
[22:38] <xsaidx> so guys kernel.log doesnt worth chekin ??
[22:39] <escott> xsaidx, doubtful because its only a log of the successful boots when your hardware was working
[22:39] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, do you see the comp post?
[22:39] <Gentoo64> or is it juts black after grub
[22:40] <bendroide> seam webmaster responsables
[22:40] <bendroide> http://www.guatemala.gob.gt/busqueda.php/%27onmouseover=%27%22%3E%3C/title%3E%3Cscript%3Ealert%28SHH%29%3C/script%3E%27%22%3E%3Cmarquee%3E%3Ch1%3Exss%20%20by%20bendroide%20Ni%20seguridad%20en%20las%20calles%20ni%20en%20la%20web,%20carajo%3C/h1%3E%3C/marquee%3E%3C/div%3E%3Cdiv%20style=%22display:block;z-index:777;position:absolute;%20top:115px;%20left:185px;%22%3E%3Cimage%20src=%22%3C/div%3E%3Cdiv%20style=%22display:block;z-index:
[22:40] <FloodBot1> bendroide: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:40] <xsaidx> Gentoo64 no its all black no grub no name of the brand nethin apear all black
[22:40] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, how do I see which module/driver my touchpad is using?
[22:40] <Dark_Apostrophe> It occasionally crashes, I want to be able to unload and reload it via the terminal
[22:40] <Gentoo64> bendrowtf was that site
[22:40] <Gentoo64> dodgy looking
[22:41] <auronandace> xsaidx: is your monitor switched on?
[22:41] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, so you dont see anything at all when you turn on the pc?
[22:41] <Guest58302> hi
[22:41] <escott> xsaidx, get a grounding strap and make sure that everything is properly seated. if the cpu/ram is not fully seated you might be getting occasional failures to boot
[22:41] <desi358> ciao
[22:41] <Gentoo64> Guest58302, hi
[22:41] <Gentoo64> !list
[22:42] <xsaidx> Gentoo64:  yesh all black with no control auronandace its laptop so yesh  escott how can i check that
[22:42] <Guest58302> hi
[22:42] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, you prob wont need to...
[22:43] <Gentoo64> laptops arent as easy
[22:43] <escott> xsaidx, laptops usually arent very servicable. if it is within warranty return it, otherwise its probably cheaper to buy a new machine
[22:43] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, whats the bios key? tried tapping that as it boots?
[22:43] <Gentoo64> i dont know anything at all about laptops
[22:43] <Gentoo64> but reset cmos sounds like good idea
[22:43] <Gentoo64> if its possible
[22:44] <xsaidx> escott: not really here in morocco  Gentoo64 sorry but i dont get you and the key i gues you talkin about its F2
[22:45] <Gentoo64> maybe try taking the battery out, then pressing the power button for a few seconds
[22:45] <Gentoo64> then plug it all back in
[22:45] <Gentoo64> that should drain the power out of it
[22:45] <Gentoo64> it does actually help in some cases. helped me a lot of times on desktop
[22:45] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: im plugin the calbe to the source no battery is used
[22:46] <gigenieks> Im sooo angry...! Anyway: I cant get to my home directory "gigenieks" - because I copied .mdf file which somehow on his own created (or extracted) directory and that somehow don't allow to get me in /home/gigenieks folder... I tried to delete all from terminal, but on that folder I got some really wierd error "Transport endpoint is not connected" huh??????!!! was using rm -R command.
[22:46] <meco> How can I mount the Windows partition other than starting up Nautilus when I'm using openbox?
[22:46] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, try unplugging it all and doing that, just for the sake of it
[22:46] <xsaidx> Gentoo64:  my battery its unplugged already : ]
[22:47] <Gentoo64> why?
[22:47] <xsaidx> well my battery i dont use it cus dead already well my machine its an old one  ;] so yeah
[22:48] <Gentoo64> sounds like its broken...
[22:48] <gigenieks> when I open "gigenieks" in thunar file manager it gets this error "Failed to open directory "gigenieks"" and below Error stating file '/home/gigenieks/Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_III_complete_(2000)_-_Install_(Disc_1_of_2)_mdf': Transport endpoint is not connected."
[22:48] <gigenieks> Anyone help??!! :/
[22:49] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: me i guess its graphic problem how can check if it is or not ??
[22:49] <red_> Hi, I'm trying to extract the files from 1862 .7z files, and I am trying to figure out 1 command that will do all the work, so I don't have to painstakingly extract each file with archive manager.  The archives are fine, but when I try 7z e *.7z  I just get a message that says there are no files in the source archive
[22:49] <jrib> red_: use a for loop.  Here is an example: for x in 1 2 3; do echo $x; done
[22:49] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, no idea. you really cant do mcuh while not being able to boot
[22:49] <escott> red_, 7z is not very feature full. you need to use xargs or a bash loop
[22:49] <Gentoo64> laptop graphcs arent as easy as just switching out  a desktop one afaik
[22:49] <xsaidx> Gentoo64:  now im using that machin by the way okay
[22:50] <ProxXy> wtf..i thought ubuntu wasnt meant to crash...its not letting me close a window with the x button??
[22:50] <escott> red_, for f in *.7z do; 7z e "$f"; done;
[22:50] <gigenieks> anyone to help with my issue?
[22:50] <Gentoo64> ProxXy, who told you that?
[22:50] <xsaidx> im using the machine that havin this problem  Gentoo64
[22:50] <Gentoo64> lol
[22:50] <jrib> escott: you typo'd the ';' position
[22:50] <Gentoo64> xsaidx, you said it couldnt boot? :S im confused
[22:51] <escott> jrib, thanks i can never remember. red_ ; before the do not after
[22:51] <red_> that still doesn't explain why it says there are no files in the archive, when there are?  I have tried unzipping one single archive from command line and it keeps saying that the archives are empty, but when I open them in archive manager the files are there.
[22:51] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: yesh but after many tries it booted now and im using it so now iwanna try to fix it : ]
[22:51] <jrib> red_: well how are you "unzipping one single archive from command line"?
[22:51] <meco> How can I mount the Windows partition other than starting up Nautilus when I'm using openbox?
[22:51] <somasin> my sound only works for root
[22:51] <escott> red_, it thinks you are trying to extract a file named foo.7z from an archive bar.7z because it see 7z e foo.7z bar.7z
[22:52] <Gentoo64> meco, use mount
[22:52] <ProxXy> Gentoo64: its supposed to be more stable
[22:52] <red_> 7z e filename
[22:52] <Gentoo64> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows for eg
[22:52] <Gentoo64> ProxXy, than what?
[22:52] <Gentoo64> ProxXy, its prob the gnome / unity thats being buggy
[22:52] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g | meco
[22:53] <dluzius> can someone pls help me with invisible battery indicator i Ocelot on my dual-boot Toshiba L-655
[22:53] <meco> dr_willis: Won't it work otherwise? It works fine when I access it via nautilus
[22:53] <escott> dluzius, your problem was an acpi problem. you need to see if there are any specific fixes for your hardware
[22:53] <gigenieks> Thanks for help noone. :P
[22:54] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: so can you help me please
[22:54] <drdozer1> hi - I have just bought a new SSD - is there a guide to porting my existing system over to the new device?
[22:55] <dluzius> I went into terminal and did an apt-get install for acpi, but still have same problem
[22:55] <red_> how exactly do I type it
[22:55] <red_> it is giving me these >
[22:55] <red_> endlessly
[22:55] <jrib> red_: press ctrl-c
[22:56] <meco> How do I find out the name of the ntfs partition?
[22:56] <jer7117> Using Ubuntu 11, I am trying to have a bash script run on startup using the startup applications manager GUI.  The script is not being ran on startup.  I don't see anything in syslog or messages or boot  as to why.  When I run the script manually, it works
[22:56] <red_> yes but how do i get it to execute the command
[22:57] <seion> Fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 server, after after it picks up OS Monitors goes into Cannot display this video mode??? But I can ssh into it.
[22:58] <ProxXy> Do you have to "safely eject" devices such as usb sticks on ubuntu?
[22:58] <red_> oh you need the done
[22:58] <red_> lol
[22:58] <meco> when I run "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows" I get this error: mount: mount point /mnt/windows does not exist
[22:58] <jrib> jer7117: how do you know the script is not being run?  How do you run it yourself?  Pastebin the script
[22:59] <cco3> I have libx11-dev installed (/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6) so if I do "gcc -m32 -lX11 blah.c" everything works fine, but If I install any lib32-*-dev package and run the same command, I get "cannot find -lX11" (I'm guessing because the existence of /usr/lib32 confuses ld)...anyone know how to fix this?
[22:59] <seion> meco, does the directory exsist?
[22:59] <xsaidx> meco: you shud create that folder first
[22:59] <red_> hahahaaaa yesss it's doing it
[22:59] <cco3> this is on 11.10 btw
[22:59] <red_> thx alot
[22:59] <escott> drdozer1, lots of approaches. you could migrate through an mdadm raid, or do a straight cp -a, or do a reinstall and !clone. the main difficulties are going to be splitting /var of the main system and putting it on the harddrive (unless you don't care about ssd wearing), fixing the fstab, and reconfiguring/reinstalling the bootloader
[22:59] <meco> Is it the /mnt folder only that needs to be created?
[22:59] <Daghdha> i once again have locked up XTerm, all 4 xterms are greyed out and non responsive. Pretty lame :/
[22:59] <seion> meco yes create the folder in the /mnt folder
[23:00] <xsaidx> meco: noo the /mnt it exists already now do mkdir /mnt/folder_name with root privelge
[23:00] <escott> meco, /media is a more common name
[23:00] <Daghdha> starting a new one also ends up in the same state
[23:00] <Daghdha> (i say xterm but i mean gnome-terminal)
[23:01] <meco> How do I find out the name of the ntfs partition?
[23:01] <drdozer1> escott: it's made a bit more gnarley by my original setup having 2 disks - boot from disk 1 (windows on that) but use disk 2 (ubuntu)
[23:01] <drdozer1> escott: I want to end up with booting and using my ssd, no windows :)
[23:01] <jer7117> never mind got it :)
[23:02] <escott> drdozer1, thats not a big issue. you now have three disks instead of two. you just need to decide where the bootloader will be, and rerun grub-install to put it on the mbr
[23:03] <escott> meco, what do you mean by name? you want the mountpoint?
[23:03] <drdozer1> escott: well, once I'm done, the 2 old disks will be going into my `museum of old computer bits'
[23:03] <meco> when I run "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows" I get this error: mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[23:03] <escott> meco,  use the disk utility to find the partition name
[23:03] <pimperle> has the default rdp client been removed / changed in oneiric? tsclient seems to have vanished during the update
[23:03] <Daghdha> How can i gently stop gnome-terminal from commandprompt? (I am talking about locked up gnome terminals, i am in another terminal (not gnome-terminal) so i can kill stuff)
[23:04] <drdozer1> escott: anyhoo, I'll upgrade to 11.10 first
[23:04] <pimperle> Daghdha: killall gnome-terminal
[23:04] <pimperle> but it will obviously close all of them
[23:04] <Daghdha> Will that gracefull shutdown childprocesses?
[23:04] <meco> escott: I'm using openbox. What's the name of the disk utility?
[23:04] <Daghdha> tbh gnome-terminal is taking 98% cputime.. it probably won'tlisten to anything
[23:05] <escott> Daghdha, it will listen to kill
[23:05] <pimperle> Daghdha: if the childprocesses react on graceful attempts then they will close as well
[23:05] <Daghdha> ok
[23:05] <Daghdha> fingers crossed
[23:05] <escott> meco, openbox i dont know. if you check /proc/partitions you can list partitions
[23:05] <pimperle> otherwise they will become orphans and you might have to kill them manually (after looking them up in ps afuwx)
[23:05] <Daghdha> yeh
[23:06] <pimperle> Daghdha: killall asks the processes to terminate, which they usually do
[23:06] <Daghdha> That was 1 milisecond close of all terminals.
[23:06] <xsaidx> meco: what you can mount shud start with /dev/sda_number_here
[23:06] <Daghdha> No way that was gracefull
[23:06] <Daghdha> oh well
[23:06] <pimperle> it depends on the view of graceful
[23:06] <Daghdha> So, i'm in the market for a terminal replacement. But not uxterm. Any suggestions?
[23:07] <pimperle> what caused the gnome-terminal hangup, Daghdha ?
[23:07] <RedAshes> Daghdha: what is wrong with the one you're using?
[23:07] <Daghdha> pimperle: Tells my process to stop so it can close database connectins, persist data to database and all that
[23:07]  * pimperle uses xfce and xfce4-terminal
[23:07] <xsaidx> pimperle: why not try lubuntu its lighter tho
[23:07] <meco> xsaidx: I don't know what shud start means, but I'm figuring it out now I think
[23:07] <scorinitron> Gentoo64, do I have a cloak
[23:07] <Gentoo64> yes
[23:07] <Daghdha> pimperle" I don't know i had 4 open. 1 with pythong process, 2 with mono, and a 4th with unrar. It seems when that was done it died
[23:08] <xsaidx> meco: type sudo fdisk -l
[23:08] <Daghdha> and when one die, they all die. great design.
[23:08] <scorinitron> sweet!
[23:08] <scorinitron> ;)
[23:08] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: type /whois scorinitron
[23:08] <pimperle> Daghdha: usually that won't happen until the developer of your processes thought of the possibility to receive a kill
[23:08] <now3d_> Hi there, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, would like to get Gnome Classic, however having a few probs with deps: "apt-get install gnome-session-fallback" gives me unmet dependecy on gnome-session-common   any ideas, or a faq link on how to get Gnome Classic working?
[23:08] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: can you please help me
[23:08] <pimperle> Daghdha: you can use "top" to figure out which one of the processes goes rogue
[23:08] <scorinitron> whois scorinitron
[23:08] <Gentoo64> with the /
[23:08] <Daghdha> pimperle: gnome-terminal
[23:08] <Gentoo64> xsaidx: i cant :(
[23:08] <pimperle> Daghdha: and you can use "kill PID" where PID is the first column in top
[23:08] <scorinitron> nothing happened?
[23:08] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: look in the freenode window
[23:09] <Daghdha> Again, gnome terminal.
[23:09] <Gentoo64> scorinitron: xchat puts them in there
[23:09] <Daghdha> It's a single process for all open terminals pimperle
[23:09] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: i jsut wanna see if its graphical issue or not but idk how to check
[23:09] <pimperle> Daghdha: i'm not sure if gnome-terminal ... ah, that explains it
[23:09] <Gentoo64> xsaidx: im really not sure
[23:09] <scorinitron> thanks
[23:09] <pimperle> i use xfce and xfce4-terminal
[23:09] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: okies thanks
[23:09] <Gentoo64> xsaidx: if its working now.. try rebooting ?
[23:09] <pimperle> you can try xterm, i think i've heard of aterm
[23:09] <Daghdha> uxterm is black on white, wich i hate.
[23:09] <RedAshes> pimperle is xubuntu xfce?  I installed it, and I can use either "xfce" or "xubuntu".. what is the dif?
[23:10] <Daghdha> Perhaps i better just google how to change taht
[23:10] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: use .Xdefaults
[23:10] <meco> when I run "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/windows" I get this error: mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt/windows busy
[23:10] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: haha im afraid to face again the same things i've been tryin to to turn on/off for almost 40 minutes :P
[23:10] <pimperle> RedAshes: good question, i never understood the difference between the two but use xubuntu here
[23:10] <craigbass1976> how come /etc/sysconfig/networking restart doesn't seem to really restart the network?  It's always bothered me.  On Fedora, I used to see it shut down, get reconfigured, then start back up.
[23:10] <Daghdha> can xfce do copy paste?
[23:10] <Gentoo64> xsaidx: ah i guessed :) have you no other pc?
[23:10] <pimperle> Daghdha: yes, of course
[23:10] <xsaidx> Gentoo64: yesh thats why
[23:10] <Daghdha> uxterm can't
[23:11] <pimperle> oh
[23:11] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: what are you looking for?
[23:11] <iceroot> craigbass1976: you mean /etc/init.d/
[23:11] <iceroot> craigbass1976: but that is no longer used in ubuntu. use "sudo service networking restart"
[23:11] <iceroot> !upstart | craigbass1976
[23:11] <craigbass1976> iceroot, oops, yep
[23:11] <Daghdha> a terminal that makes seperate process per terminal. unlike gnome-terminal. so when ir crashes not all open processes die with it
[23:11] <seion> Fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 server, after after it picks up OS Monitors goes into Cannot display this video mode??? But I can ssh into it.
[23:12] <meco> when I run "sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/windows" I get this error: "mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt/windows busy". But there's nothing in /mnt/windows. Any suggestions?
[23:12] <iceroot> Daghdha: sounds like you want "terminator" for the multi-terminal-thing
[23:12] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: afaik urxvt does
[23:12] <RedAshes> pimperle I'm currently using xubuntu here, it's ok but there are some things in gnome which are better, like the clock which gives you weather info as well as the date and time based on ur exact location
[23:13] <escott> meco, the correct version of the command will have a partition number. you have to determine that first with some other tool (inspecting /proc/partitions or using parted)
[23:13] <Gentoo64> RedAshes: xubuntu should tell the right date...
[23:13] <escott> meco, or use whatever gui disk management tools come with openbox
[23:13] <pimperle> RedAshes: have a look at xfapplet, which lets you add gnome applets to xfce
[23:13] <bastidrazor> meco: you need a number after sda.. sda1 or sda2.. etc
[23:13] <Gentoo64> as for the weather, look out the window maybe?
[23:13] <pimperle> however i don't know if it handles unity applets
[23:14] <Daghdha> iceroot: I read terminal page, i don't see how i would benefit from that with regard to my current issue
[23:14] <bastidrazor> meco: sudo fdisk -l will list the partitions seen and 'mount' will show you whats mounted and where
[23:14] <meco> bastidrazor: OK, I see what I did wrong..
[23:14] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: i use urxvt and it seems to run in seperate processes for each terminal
[23:15] <Daghdha> COol.
[23:15] <Gentoo64> its lighter and better imo
[23:15] <now3d_> ..
[23:15] <bastidrazor> meco: god deal
[23:15] <Daghdha> and smarter
[23:16] <RedAshes> There are so many programs & ways to modify the look & feel of my desktop but I don't know how to use them
[23:16] <Gentoo64> Daghdha: well you can customize it more.
[23:17] <Daghdha> :)
[23:17] <Daghdha> Just has to work
[23:17] <ZenMaster> Hello, I need help bringing up a DWL-G520 Atheros Wireless card in my Ubuntu server machine. :)
[23:17] <ZenMaster> It is detected, says it has a driver, but nothing shows up under ifconfig? :D
[23:17] <meco> I'm progressing but getting another error:  Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[23:18] <meco> I figured closing nautilus would unnmount the ntfs volume. Is there an unmount command that I need to give?
[23:18] <escott> !paste | meco paste the output of `mount`
[23:19] <now3d_> anyone got gnome working with 11.10?
[23:19] <blz> now3d_, you mean gnome-shell?
[23:19] <escott> !anyone | now3d_
[23:21] <llappall> How do I make my laptop
[23:21] <llappall> 's brightness buttons work!!!
[23:21] <now3d_> escott: I don't follow. can you clarify?
[23:22] <llappall> How do I make my laptop's brighness buttons work!!! I tried several online suggestions but none worked
[23:23] <escott> now3d_, well to answer your original question: "yes" was that a helpful answer?
[23:23] <meco> OK, all problems solved... appreciate help from all!
[23:23] <xsaidx> llappall: try redshift its used for your the good of ur eyes and f.lux too if you want
[23:23] <ZenMaster> Any help available on the DWL-520 WIFI card for me. :)
[23:24] <now3d_> escott: I'll paste my earlier message again, I think you may have missed it.
[23:24] <now3d_> [23:08] <now3d_> Hi there, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, would like to get Gnome Classic, however having a few probs with deps: "apt-get install gnome-session-fallback" gives me unmet dependecy on gnome-session-common   any ideas, or a faq link on how to get Gnome Classic working?
[23:25] <go8765> can anybody help me please to turn on managing of mouse by keyboard ?
[23:25] <escott> now3d_, well classic does not exist. fallback looks like classic but is not classic, and is probably not enough for you. if you want fallback try installing gnome-shell first then installing the fallback
[23:26] <now3d_> escott: Tried that. I get umet dep on  gnome-icon-theme-full
[23:27] <escott> now3d_, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:27] <now3d_> escott: 11.10 (upgraded from 11.04)
[23:27] <escott> now3d_, did you have gnome-shell in 11.04?
[23:29] <now3d_> escott: I had classic.. Not sure if that is the same as gome-shell
[23:30] <now3d_> escott: gnome-shell package is not installed currently
[23:30] <escott> now3d_, no its different. something is messed up with your apt archive. make sure nothing is pinned, and try running apt-get check and apt-get -f
[23:31] <pnorman> !buildingfromsource
[23:32] <SetiAmon> hey I'm looking to improve my net speed.i want to get another wifi-N adapter.i'm thinking PCI anyhow whats the most powerful adapter that linux supports natively
[23:32] <SetiAmon> i can't seem to find a native support list for linux
[23:32] <now3d_> escott: thanks, apt-get check   is ok, apt-get  -f gives me unknown param message.
[23:34] <lystra> I have 11.10 installed on a new Intel server. I've redirected console output to the serial port in the BIOS and modified grub accordingly and created /etc/init/ttyS0.conf. Everything works and I get a login prompt on the serial port. But, it doesn't take any input. Any ideas?
[23:34] <escott> now3d_, do you have anything pinned?
[23:35] <now3d_> escott: My only other idea is to re-install.. often upgrades some to this!
[23:35] <Keith_> Having troubles with NIS after upgrading to oneiric. ypbind -d shows I'm getting an RPC Authenticaion: Client cred too weak, error. Any ideas about what is going on, or how to debug it?
[23:35] <escott> now3d_, or do you have any ppas that could be breaking things
[23:36] <now3d_> escott: hmm, I've not knowingly pinned. I have disabled the auto updates of packages yesterday though.
[23:38] <Keith_> never mind my question. simple tcpwrapper problem.
[23:39] <escott> now3d_, im not too familiar with debugging apt issues, so maybe someone else can help if you ask again later
[23:40] <now3d_> escott: thanks for your Pinned tip. I re-enabled all updates, and the gnome-shell installs ok!
[23:43] <now3d_> ok, logging out, thanks for help
[23:47] <go8765> can anybody help me please to turn on managing of mouse by keyboard ?
[23:47] <kdepepo> hi, how long does it need for "proposed updates" to appear in official updates channel
[23:48] <escott> go8765, hit the windows key. type accessibility press enter
[23:48] <prodigel> hi all. I'm using xkeycaps/xmodmap to use custom keymapping, but strangely enough I can't set my right arrow key. xev reports as noSymbol 114, but setting that in my xmodmap file or 73 (the hexa value) is not helping. Any ideas ?
[23:50] <go8765> escott, sorry... I cant understand what you mean
[23:50] <bobosomfan> Hi! My USB has "bad superblock". Is there anyway too fix that? :)
[23:51] <escott> go8765, so i dont know the exact answer to your question but it can be enabled/disabled in the accessibility menu which you can access by hitting the windows key and typing accessibility
[23:52] <escott> bobosomfan, you can fsck the usb, but the usb could be going bad so this may just be temporary
[23:53] <bobosomfan> escott: I can't. It only says "Read-only filesystem"
[23:53] <go8765> escott, may be I bed describe my question... I need use mouse by keyboard, such as I have no mouse... (sorry I english is not my native and )
[23:54] <bobosomfan> scott: *
[23:54] <go8765> *I cant correct translaye your unswer :(
[23:54] <escott> go8765, and that can be enable in the accessibility menu its called mouse keys
[23:55] <escott> bobosomfan, so its read-only to protect the data that is on the stick right now because it assumes the stick is going bad and you will want to get the data off the stick. so do that first
[23:55] <go8765> escott, you mean hotkeys? or some properties-gui ?
[23:56] <go8765> escott, mouse keys - you mean hot keys or not?
[23:56] <escott> bobosomfan, then umount the stick, and then fsck /dev/sdX# as appropriate
[23:56] <bobosomfan> escott: I can't mount the stick
[23:56] <escott> go8765, i dont know
[23:56] <bobosomfan> The disk doesn't contain a vaild partition table
[23:57] <francisvgarcia> Hi guys
[23:57] <go8765> escott, you dont know what you mean when you answered me? :)
[23:57] <BlueProtoman> Is anyone good with swap partitions? I recently repartitioned my hard drive, and removed a swap partition in favor of a new one (I was resizing another one). Problem is, Ubuntu isn't using this new one. How can I get it to?
[23:57] <escott> bobosomfan, if there is no partition table you can use testdisk to try and recover the data
[23:57] <escott> BlueProtoman, is it listed in fstab
[23:57] <iceroot> BlueProtoman: edit /etc/fstab and put in there your new partition
[23:57] <francisvgarcia> I want to make the internet explorer virtual in ubuntu, any ideas
[23:57] <iceroot> francisvgarcia: wine
[23:57] <iceroot> francisvgarcia: with winetricks
[23:58] <iceroot> !appdb | francisvgarcia
[23:58] <escott> go8765, go to the universal access application and the fourth tab is pointing and clicking and one of the options is mouse keys
[23:59] <go8765> escott, you mean in gnome-control-center?
[23:59] <BlueProtoman> iceroot: It's in there already, it's just not being used
[23:59] <escott> go8765, what version of ubuntu are you running