[09:36] <JamesTait> Morning all! May your Monday be magnificent! :)
[09:48] <mandel> morning all!
[09:48] <facundobatista> Hola mandel
[09:54] <rye> morning
[09:55] <mandel> facundobatista, uh! what are you doing sooo early?
[09:55] <facundobatista> mandel, I'm a bot
[09:55] <facundobatista> mandel, have to do some errands in the afternoon
[09:58] <mandel> facundobatista, oh, well, I'm usually alone at this time hehe
[10:51] <gatox> hi
[11:00] <mandel> gatox, morning!
[11:23] <nessita> hello!
[11:23] <mandel> nessita, good morning!
[11:24] <gatox> nessita, hu
[11:24] <gatox> hi
[11:24] <nessita> gatox, mandel: hi! after email catch up, your reviews are my priority (FYI(
[11:24] <nessita> ))
[11:24] <Chipaca> nessita: hi there!
[11:25] <Chipaca> nessita: can I sequester you for a minute or ten?
[11:26] <mandel> nessita, ok, no worries, by the way I walways forget, mon and tue is bug fixxing or new features?
[11:26] <nessita> mandel: new features, wed and thru is reviews and bug fixing
[11:26] <nessita> Chipaca: sure!
[11:29] <mandel> nessita, cool :)
[11:29] <mandel> nessita, nevertheless there are a couple of need fixing that I'll be working until alecu arrives :)
[11:30] <nessita> mandel: sounds good
[11:30] <mandel> oh, and keep playing with my proxy set up + active directory (god I feel like a crapy sys admin :( )
[11:31] <gatox> nessita, did you read my last e-mail about unicode?
[11:31] <nessita> yes sir!
[11:31] <nessita> gatox: I have some ideas, we'll need to talk about them
[11:31] <gatox> nessita, ok!
[11:31] <nessita> gatox: perhaps we invite Chipacaa and guillo
[11:32] <gatox> nessita, ok, let me know :D
[11:51] <gatox> brb....... need to restart
[11:57] <nessita> gatox: can we mumble at 9:15 approx?
[11:57] <nessita> gatox: so we can unblock you asap
[11:57] <gatox> nessita, yes, no problem
[11:57] <gatox> whenever you want
[11:58] <nessita> gatox: yeah, I just want to finish breakfast and unread emails
[11:58] <gatox> nessita, ah, ok, no problem
[13:19] <nessita> standup!
[13:19] <nessita> mandel, alecu, gatox: shall we?
[13:19] <gatox> me
[13:19] <gatox> oh.... now?
[13:20] <gatox> nessita, alecu probably will be conected at 10:30
[13:20] <gatox> and mandel maybe is eating right now
[13:20] <nessita> gatox: ah, ok
[13:20] <nessita> gatox: so at what time is the standup?
[13:20] <gatox> 10:30
[13:20] <nessita> I may be confused
[13:20] <nessita> ah!
[13:20] <nessita> I ran for nothing!
[13:20] <gatox> :P
[13:21] <gatox> i told you in mumble
[13:24] <nessita> gatox: sorry, I misunderstood :-)
[13:25] <gatox> nessita, i found a conflict in one of my branches, i just fixed.... all the others are ok
[13:25] <nessita> ack!
[13:31] <gatox> me
[13:31] <gatox> nessita, mandel?
[13:31] <nessita> me
[13:33] <nessita> gatox: go!
[13:34] <gatox> DONE:
[13:34] <gatox> Test some possibilities to fix the unicode issues, Freaky Friday.
[13:34] <gatox> TODO:
[13:34] <gatox> Keep fixing unicode bugs (apply modifications according the mumble with nessita)
[13:34] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:34] <gatox> No
[13:34] <gatox> nessita, go
[13:34] <nessita> DONE: design sprint, UDS
[13:34] <nessita> TODO: catchup! help gatox with unicode branch issues
[13:34] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[13:34] <nessita> NEXT: mandel
[13:37] <nessita> mandel: ?
[13:37] <nessita> no alecu?
[13:37] <nessita> oh well, eom then
[14:15] <nessita> @ping
[14:15] <ubot4> pong
[14:21] <cjohnston> nessita: ping
[14:21] <nessita> cjohnston: hi there!
[14:21] <cjohnston> hey! I'm still having some issues.. My desktop is reporting that I have 10.8gb in my ubuntu one folder, however, the dashboard indicates 10.2gb
[14:21] <cjohnston> (im not at home to do any testing from the desktop)
[14:21] <cjohnston> ive run the rescan from the desktop and nothing changes
[14:21] <nessita> cjohnston: what do you mean with "My desktop is reporting that I have 10.8gb"?
[14:21] <nessita> cjohnston: the control panel, you mean?
[14:21] <cjohnston> i have also run the script that compares files between local and the cloud, and it only reports that i have 1 file missing, which is a lock file, which isnt important
[14:21] <cjohnston> no.. folder properties
[14:21] <nessita> cjohnston: yes, we ignore some special files, such as openoffice lock files
[14:21] <mandel> nessita, I though we have now the stand up?
[14:21] <nessita> mandel: no, an hour ago
[14:21] <nessita> mandel: did the time in .es changed?
[14:21] <mandel> nessita, mierda! yes it did.. I hate DST :(
[14:21] <nessita> mandel: the standup will keep being at 13:30 UTC
[14:21] <mandel> nessita, ok, no problem, I set my alarm clock to utc..
[14:21] <nessita> cjohnston: regarding the space used, the size may vary depending on the file system you use. For example, for files smaller than the filesystem minimal block the reported used space will be the whole block size
[14:21] <mandel> nessita, god I hate this things..
[14:21] <nessita> mandel: if that collides with your lunch, we can have it earlier, 1300 UTC
[14:22] <cjohnston> right.. the lock file isnt important.. but between folder properties and the dashboard im still showing a .6gb difference.. which i doubt is lock files
[14:22] <mandel> nessita, you guys do not change time this time of year, do you?
[14:22] <nessita> mandel: never
[14:22] <cjohnston> nessita: so a .6gb difference is possible? im on ext4
[14:23] <nessita> cjohnston: right, that is because you may have several small files, or files that use 2.1 blocks, for example, but the reported size will be 3 blocks
[14:23] <mandel> nessita, if you don't mind that would be appreciated..
[14:23] <nessita> mandel: so, we basically should accommodate our standup to your mommy's lunch time? :-D
[14:23] <nessita> mandel: at what time you head off for lunch?
[14:24] <mandel> nessita, hahaha well is not my mother lunch time, but mine :P
[14:24] <nessita> mandel: at what time you head off for lunch? (UTC please)
[14:24] <mandel> nessita, I just had it, so I started like 30 mins ago
[14:25] <mandel> nessita, but if it is a problem I can have lunh at a diff time
[14:25] <nessita> so, at 14 UTC you have lunch?
[14:28] <nessita> mandel: right now is 14:25 UTC
[14:28] <mandel> nessita, yes, that is it
[14:28] <nessita> gatox, mandel: I remembered that alecu has the day off, today
[14:28] <nessita> mandel: so, 13:30 UTC (as currently is) will work for you?
[14:28] <mandel> nessita, oh, true he told me, I forgot to!
[14:28] <mandel> nessita, yes, it would I just did not think about the tdst change, it was my fault rather than anything else
[14:28] <gatox> nessita, ack
[14:28] <nessita> mandel: ok, so let s not change the standup time, ok?
[14:28] <mandel> nessita, ok, and sorry for the misunderstanding
[14:28] <nessita> mandel: no problem! glad we worked it out
[14:55] <jdobrien> good morning u1 hackers
[14:56] <nessita> hello jdobrien!
[15:32] <jdobrien> mandel: did you find a way to use twisted with restful-u1?
[15:33] <mandel> jdobrien, yes, got it working, but I had to stop because that is a friday only project :)
[15:33] <jdobrien> mandel: cool
[15:34] <jdobrien> mandel: if you share it, i'll see how i can work it in.. i want that to be windows compatible... unless you would like to propose a branch :)
[15:34] <jdobrien> mandel: I'll file a bug against it :)
[15:34] <mandel> jdobrien, I'll be working on it on friday and hopefully will send the results to ubunet :)
[15:52] <nessita> mandel: ping
[16:26] <mandel> nessita, pong
[16:26] <gatox> lunch! brb!
[16:27] <nessita> mandel: did you address  alecu's needs fixing on https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/auto-update-looping-call/+merge/81015?
[16:27] <mandel> nessita, on it, I'll me pushing by the end of the day
[16:27] <nessita> mandel: also, windows tests are failing for https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/auto-update-functions/+merge/80237
[16:27] <mandel> nessita, hm.. that is new, I'll take a look
[16:28] <mandel> nessita, can you add in the MP the errors you are getting?
[16:29] <nessita> mandel: already did! :-)
[16:29] <mandel> nessita, uh, you are fast!
[16:30] <mandel> launchapd is not :(
[16:30] <mandel> launchapd is not :(
[16:43] <mandel> nessita, gatox I might appear and disappear several times, I'm setting a dns server for the proxy stuff and when I reboot it everything goes from my network :P
[16:43] <gatox> ack
[16:57] <Doughy> I'm having an issue with U1. It says all my files are up-to-date, but I just changed a file and it will not upload.
[16:57] <nessita> Doughy: what ubuntu one are you running? windows/linux? what version?
[16:57] <Doughy> Linux
[16:58] <Doughy> I'm not sure the version, but I believe it's the latest.
[16:59] <Doughy> It's weird because it only uploads if I change another file
[16:59] <Doughy> well wait, nevermind
[16:59] <Doughy> I just added a new file and it uploaded immediately
[17:00] <Doughy> So it's like the file I want to upload is stuck
[17:02] <mandel> Doughy, is that file opened by an app, we make sure that we do not upload opened files (nessita if the event nany does work)
[17:03] <Doughy> I do not have the file open currently. Maybe a var file is not getting removed correctly by the OS?
[17:04] <nessita> Doughy: we're currently having an issue on the released client (which is not fixed in trunk but not released yet) where if an upload needs retrying, that process will fail
[17:04] <nessita> Doughy: can you please try restarting your syncdaemon? (I can give you directions how to do so)
[17:05] <Doughy> I know how
[17:05] <Doughy> I'm restarting now
[17:05] <Doughy> doing local rescan....
[17:05] <nessita> Doughy: thanks, let me know how that goes
[17:07] <mandel> nessita, the windows os that we support are XP x86, XP x64, Vista x86, Vista x64, 7 x86 and 7 x64, Natty and Oneric, right?
[17:07] <mandel> nessita, I'm trying to set up all the os for the tests for proxy..
[17:08] <nessita> mandel: officially we support windows 7 only, as far as I understand. And in linux, everything from Lucid to Precise
[17:09] <mandel> nessita, really, just 7? hm.. well I get everything ready just to make sure everything is tested..
[17:09] <nessita> mandel: yes, of course
[17:09] <nessita> mandel: please note that linux is Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneiric and Precise
[17:10] <elopio> nessita, do you mean we support only windows 7 for the proxy?
[17:10] <mandel> nessita, ok, L -> P oh my.. this is going to be painful to test in everything
[17:11] <nessita> elopio: nopes, we'll try to support xo and vista as well. But the official windows  version we support, is 7
[17:11] <elopio> nessita, got it.
[17:11] <elopio> mandel, if you help me to set up the proxy, I can give you a hand with the testing.
[17:12] <mandel> elopio, I'm writting a wiki page (which alecu will review) with all the steps to set the network up.. but I'm also going to try if you guys in america can use my setup from spain.. is worth a try
[17:13] <mandel> elopio, if it works you should be able to use any of the machines I've set up with a single account using active directory, and that includes all the above
[17:13] <elopio> mandel, great.
[17:18] <nessita> mandel: this has conflicts with trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-windows-installer/put-migration-together/+merge/78995
[17:19] <nessita> mandel: I will give all those 3 another pass tomorrow morning, so you have time to fix them
[17:19] <Doughy> nessita, even after the restart of the syncdaemon, the file won't upload. It did give me a desktop notification saying that the files were uploading, but they never did.
[17:19] <mandel> nessita, ok, I\ll make sure they are by the time you are up
[17:20] <nessita> Doughy: do you know where the logs file are? could you please open a bug report, make it private, and attaching those logs?
[17:20] <nessita> Doughy: I can help with whatever part of what I said is cryptic for you :-)
[17:43] <jdobrien> nessita: I am getting the following error in control panel: Value could not be retrieved. (ServerError: (400, ('invalid_consumer_token_pair', 'Invalid consumer and token pair.')))
[17:43] <jdobrien> nessita: however, my client syncs files fine
[17:43] <nessita> jdobrien: how "old" are your credentials, approx?
[17:43] <jdobrien> nessita: I do not know
[17:44] <jdobrien> nessita: is it hard to reset them and create new ones?
[17:44] <nessita> jdobrien: not all all, from the controlpanel, go to devices -> remove local token. The login screen will automatically appear
[17:48] <jdobrien> nessita: same thing
[17:48] <nessita> jdobrien: let's ask rye...
[17:48] <nessita> rye: you around?
[17:49] <jdobrien> nessita: you should see the error I get from deja-dup
[17:49] <nessita> jdobrien: a 500?
[17:49] <jdobrien> https://pastebin.canonical.com/55381/
[17:50] <jdobrien> no
[17:50] <jdobrien> nessita: I wonder if I have a borked install
[17:51] <nessita> jdobrien: hum, no your install may be fine. That code does not work with our current nigthlies since we removed a deprecated SSO dbus service
[17:51] <nessita> jdobrien: and that code is using it. Which in O is fine, since we have not removed in O, but in P
[17:51] <jdobrien> I'll switch from nightlies then if you're going to break my system :)
[17:51] <nessita> jdobrien: is duplicity the same as deja du?
[17:51] <nessita> jdobrien: naha!
[17:52] <nessita> jdobrien: I see the problem now: ubuntuone-couch is fixed in trunk, but apparently we're not building nightlies for it
[17:53] <nessita> the error is exactly here:   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ubuntuone-couch/ubuntuone/couch/auth.py", line 75, in get_oauth_credentials     proxy.find_credentials(APP_NAME).iteritems())
[17:53] <nessita> but is fixed on u1-couch trunk
[17:53] <nessita> thisfred: ping
[17:54] <jdobrien> nessita: it seems silly that it's using that method for credentials
[17:54] <nessita> yeap
[17:57] <thisfred> nessita: pong
[17:57] <nessita> thisfred: hello! are you working today? (to know if I can bother you :-))
[17:58] <thisfred> yep
[17:58] <nessita> thisfred: so, is there any chance we SRU the fixes I landed in u1-couch for credentials management? or even better, can we have u1-couch build in nightlies?
[17:59] <thisfred> I'm sure we can, the question is who has time to add it
[17:59] <thisfred> adding it to the ppa is not hard with a recipe, or is it?
[18:00] <nessita> thisfred: is not, afaik
[18:05] <thisfred> nessita: I so wish we'd not called it u1couch though. Since all we'll be using it for is u1 auth
[18:06] <thisfred> nessita: hmm, it is packaged daily already
[18:07] <nessita> thisfred: it is? sorry I did not checked
[18:07] <nessita> but... then...
[18:07] <thisfred> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-couch/packaging-dailies
[18:07] <thisfred> nessita: maybe the build wasn't triggered somehow?
[18:08] <nessita> thisfred: perhaps, trying to check that
[18:08] <thisfred> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-hackers/+recipe/u1couch-dailies
[18:08] <nessita> apprarently, last build is 2011-09-12
[18:08] <thisfred> looks like it
[18:08] <nessita> requesting one now...
[18:09] <thisfred> and we should probably add P
[18:09] <thisfred> Precise added
[18:10] <jdobrien> nessita: so... I removed everything...then reinstalled without nightlies
[18:11] <jdobrien> nessita: hopefully the metadata is backward compatable
[18:11] <nessita> jdobrien: we're about to fix it in nigthlies!
[18:11] <jdobrien> nessita: unfortunately, I can no longer install couchdb
[18:11] <jdobrien> sorry
[18:11] <jdobrien> ubuntuone-desktopcouch
[18:11] <nessita> jdobrien: you can't as in you don't want to or you're having some other issue?
[18:12] <jdobrien> nessita: when I click the button int he control panel, I get an error
[18:12] <nessita> jdobrien: what does it say?
[18:13] <jdobrien> nessita: aha!
[18:13] <jdobrien>  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:13] <jdobrien> desktopcouch-ubuntuone: Depends: python (>= 2.7) but 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 is to be installed
[18:13] <jdobrien>                         Depends: desktopcouch (= 1.0.8-0ubuntu1) but 1.0.8+r283-15~oneiric1 is to be installed
[18:13] <nessita> jdobrien: that smeells like our ppa, no?
[18:14] <jdobrien> nessita: I disabled nightlies
[18:16] <nessita> jdobrien: but this is certainly nightlies 1.0.8+r283-15~oneiric1
[18:18] <jdobrien> nessita: there were traces of couchdb left over...i removed them and it installed
[18:25] <jdobrien> nessita: hmm...still getting that error from deja-dup though
[18:27] <nessita> jdobrien: I would guess there is a mismatch of version somewhere. I would recommend moving back to nightlies and waiting for us building the u1couch nightly package...
[18:27] <jdobrien> nessita: I want to know what non-nightly users are getting so i can diagnose and error they are having
[18:28] <nessita> jdobrien: oh, ok
[18:28] <nessita> jdobrien: can you please paste the output of:
[18:28] <nessita> apt-cache policy ubuntu-sso-client
[18:28] <jdobrien> nessita: I just filed a bug against deja-dup ;)
[18:29] <jdobrien> nessita: Installed: 1.5.0+r806-28~oneiric1
[18:29] <nessita> jdobrien: that sso is from nightlies
[18:30] <nessita> jdobrien: you do know that if you do not remove the package and reinstall it will not be downgraded from nightlies to the O version, no?
[18:30] <jdobrien> i'll purge and resinstall that then too
[18:30] <nessita> ok
[18:31] <jdobrien> and apparently everything else too
[18:31] <jdobrien> that's better: Setting up ubuntu-sso-client (1.4.0-0ubuntu1)
[18:32] <nessita> yes!
[18:33] <jdobrien> I should have used the magic... remove sourcedep and all it's crap
[19:42] <nessita> gatox: ping
[19:43] <gatox> nessita, pong
[19:43] <nessita> gatox: is this https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/connect-files/+merge/79611 ready for re-review?
[19:43] <nessita> (I'm getting lint issues)
[19:44] <gatox> checking....
[19:44] <gatox> nessita, ahi le corro las tools
[19:44] <nessita> gatox: I added the errors in the MP, JIC
[19:44] <nessita> ok
[19:53]  * nessita -> late lunch
[19:53] <nessita> is hard to catch up after being away 2 weeks :-/
[19:54] <gatox> :P
[20:20] <gatox> EOD........ see you tomorrow
[20:30] <nessita> bye gatox
[20:31] <gatox> nessita, i fix the lint issue...... tomorrow morning that i start earlier, i will check again all my branches, and check all the things that you told me today one by one..... so if everything is ok, i will ping you as soon as you are online, ok?
[20:32] <nessita> gatox: sounds perfect
[20:33] <gatox> nessita, regarding unicode, i'm tracking some values that seems not to be using the functions that we define, but i'm not quiet sre where are they coming from.... but, i'll have it for tomorrow morning i'm sure
[20:34] <nessita> gatox: ping me and I'll help if needed
[20:34] <gatox> nessita, ok, thanks
[21:19] <thisfred> joshuahoover: do we / should we have an Ubuntu One Google+ page? All the cool kids are doinit
[21:20] <joshuahoover> thisfred: yeah, we will
[21:20] <thisfred> kk :)
[21:21] <joshuahoover> thisfred: oh, and if you can, please invent a "social network" that is it's own silo and has it's own set of unique APIs...we're in desperate need of those! ;)
[21:21]  * jdobrien "parks" an Ubuntu One Google + page
[21:21] <joshuahoover> jdobrien: thanks
[21:21] <jdobrien> joshuahoover: I was kidding
[21:22] <thisfred> joshuahoover: on it. Working title: 'thisnet'
[21:23] <nessita> thisfred: LOL
[21:24] <joshuahoover> thisfred: it's good, needs a missing vowel (or 2)
[21:24] <jdobrien> thisfred: make sure you pick "this content is appropriate for...'Alcohol Related'"
[21:24] <thisfred> thisnt
[21:24] <nessita> ok, I'm eod'd
[21:24] <nessita> bye all!
[21:24] <thisfred> later nessita
[21:24] <joshuahoover> thisfred: excellent