[03:13] <BlindWolf8> Hello all. I am not experiencing this bug, but some clients are and I can't pinpoint it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/820805
[03:14] <AuroraBorealis> if thats a bug in pageant
[03:14] <AuroraBorealis> gl haha. its been like 6 years and only one new release since then?
[03:15] <BlindWolf8> it can't be pagent, because I don't get the bug and I'm using 0.61
[03:15] <BlindWolf8> other clients are using 0.61 and they get the bug
[03:15] <AuroraBorealis> where is their pageant.exe file
[03:15] <BlindWolf8> I tried it in a virtual machine and cannot reproduce the bug
[03:15] <AuroraBorealis> cause i use pageant too
[03:15] <AuroraBorealis> and i don't get said bug
[03:15] <BlindWolf8> I told them to use the installer, which I use too
[03:16] <AuroraBorealis> what is the .pag file anyway
[03:16] <BlindWolf8> I have no idea
[03:18] <AuroraBorealis> google is no help cause its keep going for page file
[03:18] <AuroraBorealis> and pageant itself
[03:46] <BlindWolf8> you can do -page in google to exclude page from search results
[07:58] <vila> hi all !
[08:07] <Merwin> hi
[08:20] <mgz> morning all.
[08:25] <vila> mgz: _o/
[08:27] <mgz> feeling a bit better vila?
[08:27] <vila> mgz: yup, not fully resumed but good enough to be here :)
[08:27] <vila> mgz: how about you ?
[08:29] <mgz> I'm mostly alive
[08:29] <vila> good, let's join efforts to provide at least one decent bzr dev ;)
[08:30]  * fullermd gets a giant steam press warmed up.
[08:30] <vila> hehe
[08:33] <vila> bunch of updates here (including reboots !) and weird stuff (gwibber consuming 12GB, wtf ???)
[08:37] <vila> that was 12GB of VM (4GB resident) for that matter... I suspect some weird interaction caused by an update while gwibber was still running so I may never be able to reproduce :-/
[08:40] <fullermd> Well, it could be worse.  Could have been firefox; it wouldn't have bothered limiting itself to so little memory.
[08:44]  * vila feels weird: 8 vans, full of CRS (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compagnie_r%C3%A9publicaine_de_s%C3%A9curit%C3%A9) below my windows...
[08:44] <vila> s/below/under/ ?
[08:45] <vila> the thing is, there is this library which is being renovated one block from there and our president will visit it today...
[08:46] <vila> but 8 vans ??? What sort of democracy is that ? :-/
[08:46] <fullermd> I know, right?  It has to be an odd number to avoid deadlocks!
[08:47] <vila> haaa, makes sense, one for each of my desktop  core !
[08:47] <vila> . o O (But how on earth do they know I have 4 cores (8 threads) ??)
[08:48]  * vila watches for the black helicopters...
[08:48] <fullermd> Oh, I told some guy.
[08:48] <fullermd> He said he needed to know it to transfer the $15,000,000 (15 MILLION DOLLARS) out of the Ivory Coast into my account.
[08:49] <fullermd> Now that I think back, it was a LITTLE weird...
[08:49] <vila> but 15 is an even number...
[08:50] <fullermd> It's certainly a rather odd even number.
[08:56] <mgz> any idea why your natty chroot seems to be more of a race magnet than the other ones?
[08:56] <mgz> or is it just happy chance?
[08:57] <vila> happy chance !!
[08:57] <vila> race bugs... the more you reproduce them, the better
[09:00] <mgz> we having standup this morning?
[09:01] <mgz> should perhaps have been an hour ago...
[09:02] <jelmer> I'm on mumble now..
[10:11] <vila> maxb: ppas updated: \o/ Thanks !
[10:15] <jelmer> vila: https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr-builddeb/has-version-multiple-tarballs/+merge/81545
[10:15] <jelmer> vila: testing
[10:25] <maxb> vila: No problem :-).
[10:25] <maxb> Now, I suppose I should go care for the Mercurial PPAs :-/
[10:26] <maxb> There is some superb irony in me ending up doing both of those
[10:26] <vila> :)
[10:40] <jelmer> vila: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/731886/
[10:41] <mgz> the vila bell is so cute.
[10:41] <lifeless> maxb: how about cygwin mirrors of both repos's ?
[11:02] <vila> jelmer, mgz: https://code.launchpad.net/~vila/udd/use-local-bzr/+merge/81555
[11:59] <mgz> I'm off for an appointment, will be back a little later
[12:02] <jelmer> vila: hmm, udd doesn't call bzrlib.initialize() ? :P
[12:02] <vila> ha crap :)
[12:25] <jelmer> vila: argh, hit a bzrlib bug
[12:50] <jelmer> vila: https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr/workingtree-pull-null/+merge/81572
[12:51] <jelmer> vila: python-distro-info
[12:53] <jelmer> vila: debianlp:distro-info
[12:54] <jelmer> vila: lp:debian/distr-info
[12:54] <jelmer> vila: lp:debian/distro-info
[13:42] <mgz> am around again.
[13:44] <vila> not sure I will for too long ;)
[13:44] <vila> fever seems to be striking again
[13:50]  * mgz hands vila a pillow
[13:51] <Riddell> what's the URL to add blog entries to http://blog.bazaar.canonical.com again?
[14:03]  * jelmer lunches, back in a bit
[14:05] <Riddell> got it, my closing Bazaar blog http://blog.bazaar.canonical.com/?p=383
[14:09] <vila> Riddell: damn, I couldn't find it myself either, where is it ?
[14:13] <vila> Riddell: nice blog post, you really did a ton of stuff during this rotation...
[14:14] <Riddell> vila: "log in" under meta menu in right hand side
[14:14] <vila> ETHEREISNOMETAMENU
[14:16] <vila> ha, here it is 8-)
[14:17] <vila> weird, I went to an another url which triggered an OpenID login and from there the menu appeared, yeah for discoverability
[14:57] <mgz> Riddell: nice post, I just edited it a little for formatting and some spellings
[14:58] <mgz> and some random extra linkification
[14:58] <mgz> Riddell: I'm a little sad it's not in french...
[15:01] <Riddell> thanks mgz
[15:02] <Riddell> maybe I should do my UDS summary blog in French :)
[15:05] <mgz> yeay!
[15:25] <vila> Riddell, mgz: hehe
[15:26] <vila> Riddell: where are you at this minute ? Still in our TZ or already enjoying tropics ?
[15:30] <Riddell> in the land of Liberte, Equalite et noix de cocos
[15:31] <jelmer> mgz: I'm back on mumble, fwiw
[15:31] <Riddell> c'est la france mais avec en plus des vaches http://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/
[15:32] <mgz> wait, with more cows?
[15:32] <vila> z'ont des vaches en Guadeloupe ???
[15:32]  * mgz distrusts his vocab
[15:32] <fullermd> Harumph.  Dunno why people go off and invent all these other languages when we already have English...
[15:33] <vila> Riddell: did you mean: s/avec en plus des vaches/sans les vaches/ ?
[15:34] <vila> perfect French otherwise, congrats ;)
[15:35] <vila> jelmer: did you file the bug about the revision not present ?
[15:35] <Riddell> ils sont des vaches partout
[15:35] <vila> sont ou ont ? Very different joke ...
[15:35] <vila> :)
[15:36] <vila> jelmer: you had an overview (overhear ?) of my Darth Vader voice ;)
[15:36] <jelmer> vila: not yet, still trying to get this multi-tarball thing going..
[15:36] <jelmer> vila: but thanks for the reminder :)
[15:37] <jelmer> vila: yeah, I was about to say. How much whiskey have you had today?
[15:37] <vila> me ???
[15:37] <vila> I swear ! Not a single drop !
[15:37] <fullermd> Only multiple drops?
[15:38] <vila> If I were to cure my Ubuflu, I'll use ti punch anyway :)
[15:40] <jelmer> vila: what about some warm milk?
[15:40] <vila> errr, I mean honey in a grog for inhaler  !
[15:40] <jelmer> apparently there are wild cows roaming the french streets...
[15:40] <vila> I had 8 vans in the street this morning but that's rather unusual
[15:40] <vila> (full of cows I mean)
[15:41] <vila> hmm, that was rather obscure for foreigners may be... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_Aux_Vaches should clarify that ;)
[15:41] <fullermd> Man, you're just milking that story for all it's worth...
[15:42] <vila> hmm, not sure wp really clarifies... Dutch radio station... using french slang about german cops...
[15:46] <vila> Riddell: back to your photos, nice, matches my memory of Martinique... nice souvenirs :)
[15:48] <jelmer> vila: that sounds like something that the VPRO would do
[15:49] <vila> :)
[16:17] <vila> mgz: https://code.launchpad.net/~gz/bzr/trivial_fork_error_block/+merge/81479 reviewed
[16:17] <vila> mgz: finishing the discussion *here* will probably be more effective
[16:17] <mgz> ...sorry vila, I'm causing needless work for you
[16:17] <vila> ???
[16:18] <mgz> looking at it again the problem lies in the parent side, not the child side of the pipe
[16:18] <vila> did you break something I'm aware about yet ? ;)
[16:18] <vila> s//not/
[16:19] <mgz> okay, so your review says basically what I've come back round to.
[16:19] <vila> great !
[16:20] <mgz> actually fixing the problem would probably mean changes in both subunit and testtools, and isn't actually worth while
[16:20]  * vila nods
[16:20] <mgz> as an aside, the EINTR/short write handling is just because... otherwise I'd feel bad using os.write completely incorrectly
[16:21] <vila> mgz: what I would be more interested in, in this area, is the ability to capture the subunit streams
[16:21] <vila> huh ?
[16:21] <vila> You mean EINTR can occur randomly ?
[16:21] <vila> or that ignoring it will just cause a short write ?
[16:22] <vila> s/just// that's already expressing *my* opinion ;(
[16:22] <vila> argh ;)
[16:23] <mgz> depending on when a signal arrives, you can get either
[16:23] <vila> right, but what can cause this signal ?
[16:24] <mgz> but the code wasn't on evidence of a problem, just that I don't like leaving holes
[16:24] <vila> ok
[16:25] <vila> specifically, my concern was more about having a helper or not
[16:25] <vila> to keep *this* code short
[16:46] <mgz> yeah, that's a question. the problem in general is you're exchanging more reliable c library code for less reliable python
[16:46] <mgz> posted new mp which weakens the test instead.
[16:47] <lamalex> hey, i have a pipes question
[16:48] <lamalex> should add-pipe -i ask me about uncomitted changes interactively?
[17:41] <maxb> jelmer: Hi, are you aware of severe compatibility issues between bzr 2.4.2 and bzr-git 0.6.4 ?
[17:43] <maxb> As in 'bzr branch git:.....' crashes with an AttributeError
[17:44] <jelmer> maxb: that's fixed in trunk
[17:44] <jelmer> maxb: ah, rats.. didn't realize that 0.6.4 is in sid
[17:44] <maxb> Right, do you plan a debian upload shortly?
[17:44] <jelmer> maxb: thanks for the reminder
[17:44] <jelmer> maxb: yeah, I will
[19:04] <mgz> okay, just the funny url ones left to review of jelmer's mps
[19:22] <LeoNerd> Hmmm... bzr has made me want  p4 shelve
[19:22] <LeoNerd> Annoyingly awkward to produce in practice
[19:24] <fullermd> You don't need 'p4 shelve'.  You just need bzr-p4   8-}
[19:24] <LeoNerd> Hehe oooooh
[19:24] <LeoNerd> WANT
[19:32] <soren> What's "p4"?
[19:32] <fullermd> The one between p3 and p5  ;)
[19:33] <fullermd> Perforce.
[19:33] <soren> Oh, that thing.
[19:36] <jelmer> thanks for the reviews mgz!
[19:37] <wgz> you were getting quite a backlog :)
[22:59] <jelmer> g'day poolie
[22:59] <poolie> hi all
[23:00] <poolie> jelmer, gdd was interesting
[23:00] <poolie> i think today i'm going to have a look at making a txfixtures package and a buildd and then chase some mps
[23:01] <jelmer> poolie: gdd?
[23:01] <jelmer> poolie: we tested the newer bzr on a builder today, lamont is rolling it out at the moment
[23:28] <poolie> google developer day
[23:28] <poolie> oh, did you
[23:28] <poolie> that's good
[23:33] <jelmer> poolie: ah, cool. any interesting discoveries?