fenix-migusta | hello | 01:26 |
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fenix-migusta | olá | 01:27 |
fenix-migusta | hi?? | 01:30 |
colon_D | how long does it usually take to delete a PPA from your account? i wanted to recreate mine from scratch and its been showing up grayed out for the last 5 hours :( | 02:13 |
EvilResistance | colon_D: it seems it'll be greyed out forever :/ | 02:21 |
* EvilResistance has 3 PPAs he flagged for deletion a year ago and they're still not poof'd | 02:21 | |
colon_D | ahh...good to know, lol | 02:21 |
colon_D | I guess I'll try to recreate one with the same name..see what happens | 02:22 |
colon_D | Doh... "You already have a PPA named 'foobar'." | 02:23 |
wgrant | PPA deletion is mostly to allow people to rename their accounts. It doesn't currently let you create a new one with the same name. | 02:24 |
colon_D | any admins frequent this chan that could potentially re-enable, or purge? | 02:26 |
wgrant | Reenabling is not supported, but can sort of be done. | 02:27 |
wgrant | Add /+edit to the URL, check the Enabled and Publish flags. | 02:27 |
colon_D | ah, cool. It's back. | 02:29 |
colon_D | I just hope that didn't mess anything up..kind of need this repo working and not poofing at random :/ | 02:30 |
wgrant | Why did you delete it? | 02:30 |
colon_D | well I'm new to the whole PPA thing. I published my initial commit with the wrong gpg key, and instead of trying to wipe that out, or recommit with the right key I figured I'd just wipe the whole project and start it up again properly so I had a clean slate. Page said it would take an hour on average, wasn't in a time crunch so went ahead with it | 02:32 |
colon_D | Interesting thing is after doing your trick it seems my previously build package is now gone...so looks like a fresh ppa | 02:34 |
wgrant | The package is still recorded, just marked deleted. | 02:35 |
wgrant | Same as if you'd used the 'Delete packages' link. | 02:35 |
colon_D | yup, you're right. it's in there, can see it if I filter for 'Any status' | 02:36 |
EvilResistance | wgrant: alive? | 02:54 |
wgrant | EvilResistance: No. | 02:54 |
EvilResistance | :P | 02:54 |
EvilResistance | or any other person with expert level launchpad-fu | 02:54 |
EvilResistance | in any case, my question is this | 02:54 |
EvilResistance | if i am trying to backport something within a ppa that i have called ppa:lpid/backports/... | 02:55 |
EvilResistance | and the required backported build-dep exists in the aforementioned backports ppa | 02:55 |
EvilResistance | will the builders recognize the build-dep version is *in* that ppa? | 02:55 |
EvilResistance | or do i have to specify it somehow? | 02:55 |
EvilResistance | (the ubuntu-motu people *think* it'll work without any other specifications, but i want to confirm) | 02:56 |
wgrant | If they're in the same PPA, or a PPA that is set as a dependency for that PPA, yes, they will be found automatically. | 02:56 |
EvilResistance | ah good | 02:56 |
EvilResistance | so less worrying for me :P | 02:56 |
EvilResistance | is there a way for me to copy the source package of swig2.0 for oneiric into my PPA? | 04:09 |
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mrevell | ello | 09:11 |
jtv | oi | 09:18 |
nigelb | Hello mrevell! Back in London? | 10:20 |
mrevell | Hey nigelb, back in the UK, yep :) | 10:22 |
nigelb | :) | 10:23 |
mrevell | Launchpad's Google+ page: https://plus.google.com/b/109129028036222996031/ | 10:32 |
bigjools | the logo is wonky! | 10:33 |
mrevell | Hang on, I'll fix it | 10:33 |
lifeless | mrevell: well, thats *your* LP g+ page, right? [current implementation is they are single-owner :P] | 10:34 |
bigjools | heh | 10:34 |
mrevell | It's the one we've got right now, working within the confines of what they offer. We could go all Ayn Rand, I guess, and set up a bunch of competing Google+ pages for Launchpad. | 10:35 |
lifeless | mrevell: yeah baby! | 10:37 |
lifeless | mrevell: I don't know whether to admire, or shake head, at googles release process for G+ | 10:37 |
mrevell | Heh :) | 10:38 |
mrevell | bigjools, Logo should be less wonky now. | 10:39 |
bigjools | \o/ | 10:39 |
mrevell | With any luck they'll make it easy to promote pages to multiple ownership. | 10:40 |
mrevell | I'm not going to make a big deal about it just yet as I'm still kind of sceptical about how useful it'll be. | 10:40 |
lifeless | mrevell: do we have a g+ mirror of @launchpadstatus? That might be useful | 10:41 |
lifeless | mrevell: the facebook page is pretty uhm, static | 10:41 |
mrevell | lifeless, Now that's a good idea. identi.ca seems slower to respond every time I visit. | 10:41 |
lifeless | mrevell: its probably getting more popular :> | 10:42 |
mrevell | As for the Facebook page ... I'm handing all of this to Dan. I didn't want it to ape the status feed, as it felt like it should be something other than that ... Facebook being more fluffy, than anything. | 10:43 |
lifeless | yeah | 10:44 |
lifeless | I'm with you | 10:44 |
lifeless | I wonder if it mirroring the blog would be good | 10:44 |
lifeless | I think it does already ;) | 10:44 |
mrevell | Yeah, or the straight launchpad identi.ca/launchpad_net Twitter feed. | 10:44 |
lifeless | G+ status stream mirroring identi.ca, G+ vanity page mirroring blog, perhaps ? | 10:45 |
lifeless | I dunno, its all too fluffy for me :) | 10:45 |
mrevell | Heh :) Dan's back at work tomorrow, so I'll let him set out a social media strategy (every one of which I've read previously being, "Post to Twitter .... Profit!") | 10:46 |
mrevell | I have to admit, the term "social media" makes me shudder a little. | 10:47 |
lifeless | mrevell: its like social disease? | 10:53 |
mrevell | I think my objection to it comes from my impression that it is often used in place of any actual meaning. It's the current equivalent of "portal"; a word that does have a use and meaning but that was hijacked by bandwagon-jumpers in lieu of having any actual ideas. Also, so called social media experts seem to take themselves very seriously. | 10:55 |
lifeless | naturally; they are experts! | 10:57 |
mrevell | haha | 10:57 |
nigelb | mrevell: They are indeed experts at calling themselves experts :) | 10:58 |
mrevell | I don't deny that there is a skill-set that is useful in sparking, then maintaining, enthusiasm around a bunch of Twitter/Facebook stuff but there does seem to be a bit of a bubble in the esteem in which the holders of such skills are held. Anyway, I'm rapidly going off-topic here. | 10:59 |
nigelb | heh | 10:59 |
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mardy | hi :-) | 12:29 |
allenap | mardy: Hello :) | 12:29 |
mardy | there are some error with importing my project from git: | 12:29 |
mardy | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/84700393/mardy-webcredentials-libaccounts-glib-trunk.log | 12:29 |
allenap | mardy: I've asked someone who's very familiar with this stuff to come and help. | 12:31 |
mardy | allenap: thanks | 12:32 |
allenap | mardy: jelmer isn't responding right now, but he'll probably be back later. | 12:35 |
mardy | allenap: np | 12:36 |
jelmer | hi allenap, mardy | 12:45 |
mardy | jelmer: hi! | 12:47 |
mardy | jelmer: I've some trouble importing my git project into lp: | 12:48 |
mardy | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/84700393/mardy-webcredentials-libaccounts-glib-trunk.log | 12:48 |
jelmer | what's the code import? | 12:48 |
mardy | jelmer: https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso.libaccounts-glib/ | 12:49 |
jelmer | mardy: one sec | 12:58 |
jelmer | mardy: hi | 13:45 |
jelmer | mardy: I've managed to reproduce it locally, but I can't see immediately what's going wrong | 13:46 |
mardy | jelmer: hi. Cool! | 13:46 |
allenap | bigjools: Fwiw, wrt https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/177795, there's a HOWTO at https://dev.launchpad.net/PolicyAndProcess/BugImportHowto. | 14:18 |
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mardy | jelmer: any success? | 15:00 |
jelmer | mardy: Still looking, but I think I'll have to give up for now and file a bug about this. | 15:21 |
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jussi | hrm. I think I just found a tiny bug, but Im not certain of what the propper solution is. | 19:18 |
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jussi | Anyway. I am a member of a team which has someone in it that was a member a while back, ceased to be a member, then came back as a member. LP notes they have been a member since way back when - I *think* it should note they have been a member since only when they rejoined. | 19:22 |
jhobbs | should be a setting per group! | 19:23 |
beuno | I would expect the opposite (the current behavior) | 19:25 |
beuno | especially for accidental expires | 19:25 |
Renegade15 | the curious question is: Why does it save the previous affiliation in the first place? | 19:26 |
Renegade15 | Is there a "past memberships" or "previous members" page somewhere? | 19:26 |
beuno | I don't think there is on a per-person level | 19:27 |
jussi | Renegade15: yes, there is | 19:27 |
Renegade15 | ah, that explains it | 19:27 |
jussi | beuno: hrm, I guess its different use case things here. for say, ubuntu members - that kinda makes sense. for say, the community council, it makes none. | 19:28 |
jussi | I thin k the correct behaviour should be to both list them as past and present members | 19:28 |
beuno | I think the answer here is that it needs to be a historic thing | 19:29 |
jussi | beuno: what do you mean by that? | 19:30 |
beuno | jussi, "Member for 1 year 2 months, first joined on X date" | 19:31 |
beuno | maybe | 19:31 |
jussi | hrm. I still prefer listing in both sections - which is the same thing, but presented in a different way, no? | 19:32 |
Renegade15 | is that listing different from the current semantics? | 19:32 |
jussi | Renegade15: hrm? | 19:33 |
Renegade15 | i.e. would that be 1 year 2 months since X, or since the most recent join? | 19:33 |
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jussi | Renegade15: for beuno's idea? neither. total time they were actually a member | 19:34 |
beuno | yes, I'd cheat :) | 19:34 |
Renegade15 | I'll bet money you'd get bug reports for that | 19:34 |
jussi | hehe | 19:34 |
Renegade15 | because people would calculate from X to now, see it wouldn't match up with the sum, and complain | 19:35 |
Renegade15 | how about a listing "Member from 01.07.2007 - 04.03.2009, 11.10.10-now"? | 19:36 |
jussi | You understood my proposal? listed in the previous members for the time they were a member previously, and the reason they were removed (deactivated, expired - same as is listed now). then they would also be in the current member section. | 19:36 |
jussi | that tells the whole story in a clear way imho | 19:37 |
Renegade15 | jussi: That would make sense, but might also lead to bug reports re: double listing | 19:37 |
Renegade15 | end users can be difficult like that >_> | 19:37 |
Renegade15 | "CommanderFoo has rejoined the team, why is he still listed as historic?! He's current!" | 19:38 |
jussi | hehe. but still, in any change you are going to have some sort of confusion | 19:38 |
Renegade15 | not trying to be difficult, just playing the devil's advocate | 19:38 |
jussi | what we want is clear, but accurate. | 19:38 |
Renegade15 | how is the data saved at the moment? | 19:39 |
Renegade15 | join date + active member boolean? | 19:40 |
jussi | Renegade15: no idea. | 19:40 |
* jussi hasnt looked that deep into it | 19:40 | |
Renegade15 | well, the convertibility of historic data would be an issue, too | 19:40 |
jussi | yeah, this is true. | 19:41 |
Renegade15 | if the leave dates are missing (which could cause the current behavior), you can't magically add those afterwards | 19:41 |
jussi | yes. I would be suprised if they were deleted though - they have been used before elsewhere. | 19:42 |
jussi | so they probably dont get magically deleted from the db | 19:42 |
jussi | ie. the person has been in the previous members list before. | 19:42 |
Renegade15 | maybe the most productive thing to do would be logging a change request in the tracker ^^ | 19:45 |
Renegade15 | to get more points of view | 19:45 |
jussi | Renegade15: likely. I will think on it a little more first. But yes, i do plan to report a bug. | 19:46 |
Renegade15 | or just do a ninja-edit on the code and blame someone else <_< | 19:47 |
jussi | thankfully I have no coding ability and even less access to LP code :) | 19:48 |
Renegade15 | do you have a general grasp of LaunchPad's functionality? | 19:49 |
jussi | Renegade15: I use it on a daily basis, so Id hope so. | 19:51 |
Renegade15 | okay, question: Is there a way to delete blueprints, and I'm just too blind to find it, or are they immortal objects? | 19:51 |
jussi | Renegade15: not that I know of | 19:55 |
Renegade15 | hmm...I was afraid of that. Oh well, at least I didn't miss the obvious. ^^ | 19:56 |
jussi | can mark it a superseded though | 19:57 |
Renegade15 | any general gotchas you would want to warn people about? | 20:02 |
jussi | dont join too many projects at once? :D | 20:03 |
Renegade15 | heh | 20:04 |
Renegade15 | any in terms of technical usage? | 20:05 |
jussi | nothing. its pretty self explanatory | 20:06 |
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marw | hello. i already have an ssh key i use on gitorious. is is better to create a new one, or use this one on launchpad? | 21:26 |
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