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fenix-migustahello01:26
fenix-migustaolá01:27
fenix-migustahi??01:30
colon_Dhow long does it usually take to delete a PPA from your account? i wanted to recreate mine from scratch and its been showing up grayed out for the last 5 hours :(02:13
EvilResistancecolon_D:  it seems it'll be greyed out forever :/02:21
* EvilResistance has 3 PPAs he flagged for deletion a year ago and they're still not poof'd02:21
colon_Dahh...good to know, lol02:21
colon_DI guess I'll try to recreate one with the same name..see what happens02:22
colon_DDoh... "You already have a PPA named 'foobar'."02:23
wgrantPPA deletion is mostly to allow people to rename their accounts. It doesn't currently let you create a new one with the same name.02:24
colon_Dany admins frequent this chan that could potentially re-enable, or purge?02:26
wgrantReenabling is not supported, but can sort of be done.02:27
wgrantAdd /+edit to the URL, check the Enabled and Publish flags.02:27
colon_Dah, cool.  It's back.02:29
colon_DI just hope that didn't mess anything up..kind of need this repo working and not poofing at random :/02:30
wgrantWhy did you delete it?02:30
colon_Dwell I'm new to the whole PPA thing.  I published my initial commit with the wrong gpg key, and instead of trying to wipe that out, or recommit with the right key I figured I'd just wipe the whole project and start it up again properly so I had a clean slate.  Page said it would take an hour on average, wasn't in a time crunch so went ahead with it02:32
colon_DInteresting thing is after doing your trick it seems my previously build package is now gone...so looks like a fresh ppa02:34
wgrantThe package is still recorded, just marked deleted.02:35
wgrantSame as if you'd used the 'Delete packages' link.02:35
colon_Dyup, you're right. it's in there, can see it if I filter for 'Any status'02:36
EvilResistancewgrant:  alive?02:54
wgrantEvilResistance: No.02:54
EvilResistance:P02:54
EvilResistanceor any other person with expert level launchpad-fu02:54
EvilResistancein any case, my question is this02:54
EvilResistanceif i am trying to backport something within a ppa that i have called ppa:lpid/backports/...02:55
EvilResistanceand the required backported build-dep exists in the aforementioned backports ppa02:55
EvilResistancewill the builders recognize the build-dep version is *in* that ppa?02:55
EvilResistanceor do i have to specify it somehow?02:55
EvilResistance(the ubuntu-motu people *think* it'll work without any other specifications, but i want to confirm)02:56
wgrantIf they're in the same PPA, or a PPA that is set as a dependency for that PPA, yes, they will be found automatically.02:56
EvilResistanceah good02:56
EvilResistanceso less worrying for me :P02:56
EvilResistanceis there a way for me to copy the source package of swig2.0 for oneiric into my PPA?04:09
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mrevellello09:11
jtvoi09:18
nigelbHello mrevell! Back in London?10:20
mrevellHey nigelb, back in the UK, yep :)10:22
nigelb:)10:23
mrevellLaunchpad's Google+ page: https://plus.google.com/b/109129028036222996031/10:32
bigjoolsthe logo is wonky!10:33
mrevellHang on, I'll fix it10:33
lifelessmrevell: well, thats *your* LP g+ page, right? [current implementation is they are single-owner :P]10:34
bigjoolsheh10:34
mrevellIt's the one we've got right now, working within the confines of what they offer. We could go all Ayn Rand, I guess, and set up a bunch of competing Google+ pages for Launchpad.10:35
lifelessmrevell: yeah baby!10:37
lifelessmrevell: I don't know whether to admire, or shake head, at googles release process for G+10:37
mrevellHeh :)10:38
mrevellbigjools, Logo should be less wonky now.10:39
bigjools\o/10:39
mrevellWith any luck they'll make it easy to promote pages to multiple ownership.10:40
mrevellI'm not going to make a big deal about it just yet as I'm still kind of sceptical about how useful it'll be.10:40
lifelessmrevell: do we have a g+ mirror of @launchpadstatus? That might be useful10:41
lifelessmrevell: the facebook page is pretty uhm, static10:41
mrevelllifeless, Now that's a good idea. identi.ca seems slower to respond every time I visit.10:41
lifelessmrevell: its probably getting more popular :>10:42
mrevellAs for the Facebook page ... I'm handing all of this to Dan. I didn't want it to ape the status feed, as it felt like it should be something other than that ... Facebook being more fluffy, than anything.10:43
lifelessyeah10:44
lifelessI'm with you10:44
lifelessI wonder if it mirroring the blog would be good10:44
lifelessI think it does already ;)10:44
mrevellYeah, or the straight launchpad identi.ca/launchpad_net Twitter feed.10:44
lifelessG+ status stream mirroring identi.ca, G+ vanity page mirroring blog, perhaps ?10:45
lifelessI dunno, its all too fluffy for me :)10:45
mrevellHeh :) Dan's back at work tomorrow, so I'll let him set out a social media strategy (every one of which I've read previously being, "Post to Twitter .... Profit!")10:46
mrevellI have to admit, the term "social media" makes me shudder a little.10:47
lifelessmrevell: its like social disease?10:53
mrevellI think my objection to it comes from my impression that it is often used in place of any actual meaning. It's the current equivalent of "portal"; a word that does have a use and meaning but that was hijacked by bandwagon-jumpers in lieu of having any actual ideas. Also, so called social media experts seem to take themselves very seriously.10:55
lifelessnaturally; they are experts!10:57
mrevellhaha10:57
nigelbmrevell: They are indeed experts at calling themselves experts :)10:58
mrevellI don't deny that there is a skill-set that is useful in sparking, then maintaining, enthusiasm around a bunch of Twitter/Facebook stuff but there does seem to be a bit of a bubble in the esteem in which the holders of such skills are held. Anyway, I'm rapidly going off-topic here.10:59
nigelbheh10:59
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* senden9 12:25
mardyhi :-)12:29
allenapmardy: Hello :)12:29
mardythere are some error with importing my project from git:12:29
mardyhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/84700393/mardy-webcredentials-libaccounts-glib-trunk.log12:29
allenapmardy: I've asked someone who's very familiar with this stuff to come and help.12:31
mardyallenap: thanks12:32
allenapmardy: jelmer isn't responding right now, but he'll probably be back later.12:35
mardyallenap: np12:36
jelmerhi allenap, mardy12:45
mardyjelmer: hi!12:47
mardyjelmer: I've some trouble importing my git project into lp:12:48
mardyhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/84700393/mardy-webcredentials-libaccounts-glib-trunk.log12:48
jelmerwhat's the code import?12:48
mardyjelmer: https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso.libaccounts-glib/12:49
jelmermardy: one sec12:58
jelmermardy: hi13:45
jelmermardy: I've managed to reproduce it locally, but I can't see immediately what's going wrong13:46
mardyjelmer: hi. Cool!13:46
allenapbigjools: Fwiw, wrt https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/177795, there's a HOWTO at https://dev.launchpad.net/PolicyAndProcess/BugImportHowto.14:18
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mardyjelmer: any success?15:00
jelmermardy: Still looking, but I think I'll have to give up for now and file a bug about this.15:21
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jussihrm. I think I just found a tiny bug, but Im not certain of what the propper solution is.19:18
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jussiAnyway. I am a member of a team which has someone in it that was a member a while back, ceased to be a member, then came back as a member. LP notes they have been a member since way back when - I *think* it should note they have been a member since only when they rejoined.19:22
jhobbsshould be a setting per group!19:23
beunoI would expect the opposite (the current behavior)19:25
beunoespecially for accidental expires19:25
Renegade15the curious question is: Why does it save the previous affiliation in the first place?19:26
Renegade15Is there a "past memberships" or "previous members" page somewhere?19:26
beunoI don't think there is on a per-person level19:27
jussiRenegade15: yes, there is19:27
Renegade15ah, that explains it19:27
jussibeuno: hrm, I guess its different use case things here. for say, ubuntu members - that kinda makes sense. for say, the community council, it makes none.19:28
jussiI thin k the correct behaviour should be to both list them as past and present members19:28
beunoI think the answer here is that it needs to be a historic thing19:29
jussibeuno: what do you mean by that?19:30
beunojussi, "Member for 1 year 2 months, first joined on X date"19:31
beunomaybe19:31
jussihrm. I still prefer listing in both sections - which is the same thing, but presented in a different way, no?19:32
Renegade15is that listing different from the current semantics?19:32
jussiRenegade15: hrm?19:33
Renegade15i.e. would that be 1 year 2 months since X, or since the most recent join?19:33
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jussiRenegade15: for beuno's idea? neither. total time they were actually a member19:34
beunoyes, I'd cheat  :)19:34
Renegade15I'll bet money you'd get bug reports for that19:34
jussihehe19:34
Renegade15because people would calculate from X to now, see it wouldn't match up with the sum, and complain19:35
Renegade15how about a listing "Member from 01.07.2007 - 04.03.2009, 11.10.10-now"?19:36
jussiYou understood my proposal? listed in the previous members for the time they were a member previously, and the reason they were removed (deactivated, expired - same as is listed now). then they would also be in the current member section.19:36
jussithat tells the whole story in a clear way imho19:37
Renegade15jussi: That would make sense, but might also lead to bug reports re: double listing19:37
Renegade15end users can be difficult like that >_>19:37
Renegade15"CommanderFoo has rejoined the team, why is he still listed as historic?! He's current!"19:38
jussihehe. but still, in any change you are going to have some sort of confusion19:38
Renegade15not trying to be difficult, just playing the devil's advocate19:38
jussiwhat we want is clear, but accurate.19:38
Renegade15how is the data saved at the moment?19:39
Renegade15join date + active member boolean?19:40
jussiRenegade15: no idea.19:40
* jussi hasnt looked that deep into it19:40
Renegade15well, the convertibility of historic data would be an issue, too19:40
jussiyeah, this is true.19:41
Renegade15if the leave dates are missing (which could cause the current behavior), you can't magically add those afterwards19:41
jussiyes. I would be suprised if they were deleted though - they have been used before elsewhere.19:42
jussiso they probably dont get magically deleted from the db19:42
jussiie. the person has been in the previous members list before.19:42
Renegade15maybe the most productive thing to do would be logging a change request in the tracker ^^19:45
Renegade15to get more points of view19:45
jussiRenegade15: likely. I will think on it a little more first. But yes, i do plan to report a bug.19:46
Renegade15or just do a ninja-edit on the code and blame someone else <_<19:47
jussithankfully I have no coding ability and even less access to LP code :)19:48
Renegade15do you have a general grasp of LaunchPad's functionality?19:49
jussiRenegade15: I use it on a daily basis, so Id hope so.19:51
Renegade15okay, question: Is there a way to delete blueprints, and I'm just too blind to find it, or are they immortal objects?19:51
jussiRenegade15: not that I know of19:55
Renegade15hmm...I was afraid of that. Oh well, at least I didn't miss the obvious. ^^19:56
jussican mark it a superseded though19:57
Renegade15any general gotchas you would want to warn people about?20:02
jussidont join too many projects at once? :D20:03
Renegade15heh20:04
Renegade15any in terms of technical usage?20:05
jussinothing. its pretty self explanatory20:06
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marwhello. i already have an ssh key i use on gitorious. is is better to create a new one, or use this one on launchpad?21:26

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