[01:26] hello [01:27] olá [01:30] hi?? [02:13] how long does it usually take to delete a PPA from your account? i wanted to recreate mine from scratch and its been showing up grayed out for the last 5 hours :( [02:21] colon_D: it seems it'll be greyed out forever :/ [02:21] * EvilResistance has 3 PPAs he flagged for deletion a year ago and they're still not poof'd [02:21] ahh...good to know, lol [02:22] I guess I'll try to recreate one with the same name..see what happens [02:23] Doh... "You already have a PPA named 'foobar'." [02:24] PPA deletion is mostly to allow people to rename their accounts. It doesn't currently let you create a new one with the same name. [02:26] any admins frequent this chan that could potentially re-enable, or purge? [02:27] Reenabling is not supported, but can sort of be done. [02:27] Add /+edit to the URL, check the Enabled and Publish flags. [02:29] ah, cool. It's back. [02:30] I just hope that didn't mess anything up..kind of need this repo working and not poofing at random :/ [02:30] Why did you delete it? [02:32] well I'm new to the whole PPA thing. I published my initial commit with the wrong gpg key, and instead of trying to wipe that out, or recommit with the right key I figured I'd just wipe the whole project and start it up again properly so I had a clean slate. Page said it would take an hour on average, wasn't in a time crunch so went ahead with it [02:34] Interesting thing is after doing your trick it seems my previously build package is now gone...so looks like a fresh ppa [02:35] The package is still recorded, just marked deleted. [02:35] Same as if you'd used the 'Delete packages' link. [02:36] yup, you're right. it's in there, can see it if I filter for 'Any status' [02:54] wgrant: alive? [02:54] EvilResistance: No. [02:54] :P [02:54] or any other person with expert level launchpad-fu [02:54] in any case, my question is this [02:55] if i am trying to backport something within a ppa that i have called ppa:lpid/backports/... [02:55] and the required backported build-dep exists in the aforementioned backports ppa [02:55] will the builders recognize the build-dep version is *in* that ppa? [02:55] or do i have to specify it somehow? [02:56] (the ubuntu-motu people *think* it'll work without any other specifications, but i want to confirm) [02:56] If they're in the same PPA, or a PPA that is set as a dependency for that PPA, yes, they will be found automatically. [02:56] ah good [02:56] so less worrying for me :P [04:09] is there a way for me to copy the source package of swig2.0 for oneiric into my PPA? === jtr__|away is now known as jtr__ === bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: jtv | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [09:11] ello [09:18] oi [10:20] Hello mrevell! Back in London? [10:22] Hey nigelb, back in the UK, yep :) [10:23] :) [10:32] Launchpad's Google+ page: https://plus.google.com/b/109129028036222996031/ [10:33] the logo is wonky! [10:33] Hang on, I'll fix it [10:34] mrevell: well, thats *your* LP g+ page, right? [current implementation is they are single-owner :P] [10:34] heh [10:35] It's the one we've got right now, working within the confines of what they offer. We could go all Ayn Rand, I guess, and set up a bunch of competing Google+ pages for Launchpad. [10:37] mrevell: yeah baby! [10:37] mrevell: I don't know whether to admire, or shake head, at googles release process for G+ [10:38] Heh :) [10:39] bigjools, Logo should be less wonky now. [10:39] \o/ [10:40] With any luck they'll make it easy to promote pages to multiple ownership. [10:40] I'm not going to make a big deal about it just yet as I'm still kind of sceptical about how useful it'll be. [10:41] mrevell: do we have a g+ mirror of @launchpadstatus? That might be useful [10:41] mrevell: the facebook page is pretty uhm, static [10:41] lifeless, Now that's a good idea. identi.ca seems slower to respond every time I visit. [10:42] mrevell: its probably getting more popular :> [10:43] As for the Facebook page ... I'm handing all of this to Dan. I didn't want it to ape the status feed, as it felt like it should be something other than that ... Facebook being more fluffy, than anything. [10:44] yeah [10:44] I'm with you [10:44] I wonder if it mirroring the blog would be good [10:44] I think it does already ;) [10:44] Yeah, or the straight launchpad identi.ca/launchpad_net Twitter feed. [10:45] G+ status stream mirroring identi.ca, G+ vanity page mirroring blog, perhaps ? [10:45] I dunno, its all too fluffy for me :) [10:46] Heh :) Dan's back at work tomorrow, so I'll let him set out a social media strategy (every one of which I've read previously being, "Post to Twitter .... Profit!") [10:47] I have to admit, the term "social media" makes me shudder a little. [10:53] mrevell: its like social disease? [10:55] I think my objection to it comes from my impression that it is often used in place of any actual meaning. It's the current equivalent of "portal"; a word that does have a use and meaning but that was hijacked by bandwagon-jumpers in lieu of having any actual ideas. Also, so called social media experts seem to take themselves very seriously. [10:57] naturally; they are experts! [10:57] haha [10:58] mrevell: They are indeed experts at calling themselves experts :) [10:59] I don't deny that there is a skill-set that is useful in sparking, then maintaining, enthusiasm around a bunch of Twitter/Facebook stuff but there does seem to be a bit of a bubble in the esteem in which the holders of such skills are held. Anyway, I'm rapidly going off-topic here. [10:59] heh === nyuszika7h is now known as RFC1459 === RFC1459 is now known as nyuszika7h === jtv changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara === allenap changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: allenap | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [12:25] * senden9 [12:29] hi :-) [12:29] mardy: Hello :) [12:29] there are some error with importing my project from git: [12:29] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/84700393/mardy-webcredentials-libaccounts-glib-trunk.log [12:31] mardy: I've asked someone who's very familiar with this stuff to come and help. [12:32] allenap: thanks [12:35] mardy: jelmer isn't responding right now, but he'll probably be back later. [12:36] allenap: np [12:45] hi allenap, mardy [12:47] jelmer: hi! [12:48] jelmer: I've some trouble importing my git project into lp: [12:48] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/84700393/mardy-webcredentials-libaccounts-glib-trunk.log [12:48] what's the code import? [12:49] jelmer: https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso.libaccounts-glib/ [12:58] mardy: one sec [13:45] mardy: hi [13:46] mardy: I've managed to reproduce it locally, but I can't see immediately what's going wrong [13:46] jelmer: hi. Cool! [14:18] bigjools: Fwiw, wrt https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/177795, there's a HOWTO at https://dev.launchpad.net/PolicyAndProcess/BugImportHowto. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [15:00] jelmer: any success? [15:21] mardy: Still looking, but I think I'll have to give up for now and file a bug about this. === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === gmb is now known as graham === graham is now known as gmb === chrisccoulson is now known as chrisccoulson_ === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Renegade|ghost is now known as Renegade15 === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [19:18] hrm. I think I just found a tiny bug, but Im not certain of what the propper solution is. === epsy is now known as \u03b5 [19:22] Anyway. I am a member of a team which has someone in it that was a member a while back, ceased to be a member, then came back as a member. LP notes they have been a member since way back when - I *think* it should note they have been a member since only when they rejoined. [19:23] should be a setting per group! [19:25] I would expect the opposite (the current behavior) [19:25] especially for accidental expires [19:26] the curious question is: Why does it save the previous affiliation in the first place? [19:26] Is there a "past memberships" or "previous members" page somewhere? [19:27] I don't think there is on a per-person level [19:27] Renegade15: yes, there is [19:27] ah, that explains it [19:28] beuno: hrm, I guess its different use case things here. for say, ubuntu members - that kinda makes sense. for say, the community council, it makes none. [19:28] I thin k the correct behaviour should be to both list them as past and present members [19:29] I think the answer here is that it needs to be a historic thing [19:30] beuno: what do you mean by that? [19:31] jussi, "Member for 1 year 2 months, first joined on X date" [19:31] maybe [19:32] hrm. I still prefer listing in both sections - which is the same thing, but presented in a different way, no? [19:32] is that listing different from the current semantics? [19:33] Renegade15: hrm? [19:33] i.e. would that be 1 year 2 months since X, or since the most recent join? === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [19:34] Renegade15: for beuno's idea? neither. total time they were actually a member [19:34] yes, I'd cheat :) [19:34] I'll bet money you'd get bug reports for that [19:34] hehe [19:35] because people would calculate from X to now, see it wouldn't match up with the sum, and complain [19:36] how about a listing "Member from 01.07.2007 - 04.03.2009, 11.10.10-now"? [19:36] You understood my proposal? listed in the previous members for the time they were a member previously, and the reason they were removed (deactivated, expired - same as is listed now). then they would also be in the current member section. [19:37] that tells the whole story in a clear way imho [19:37] jussi: That would make sense, but might also lead to bug reports re: double listing [19:37] end users can be difficult like that >_> [19:38] "CommanderFoo has rejoined the team, why is he still listed as historic?! He's current!" [19:38] hehe. but still, in any change you are going to have some sort of confusion [19:38] not trying to be difficult, just playing the devil's advocate [19:38] what we want is clear, but accurate. [19:39] how is the data saved at the moment? [19:40] join date + active member boolean? [19:40] Renegade15: no idea. [19:40] * jussi hasnt looked that deep into it [19:40] well, the convertibility of historic data would be an issue, too [19:41] yeah, this is true. [19:41] if the leave dates are missing (which could cause the current behavior), you can't magically add those afterwards [19:42] yes. I would be suprised if they were deleted though - they have been used before elsewhere. [19:42] so they probably dont get magically deleted from the db [19:42] ie. the person has been in the previous members list before. [19:45] maybe the most productive thing to do would be logging a change request in the tracker ^^ [19:45] to get more points of view [19:46] Renegade15: likely. I will think on it a little more first. But yes, i do plan to report a bug. [19:47] or just do a ninja-edit on the code and blame someone else <_< [19:48] thankfully I have no coding ability and even less access to LP code :) [19:49] do you have a general grasp of LaunchPad's functionality? [19:51] Renegade15: I use it on a daily basis, so Id hope so. [19:51] okay, question: Is there a way to delete blueprints, and I'm just too blind to find it, or are they immortal objects? [19:55] Renegade15: not that I know of [19:56] hmm...I was afraid of that. Oh well, at least I didn't miss the obvious. ^^ [19:57] can mark it a superseded though [20:02] any general gotchas you would want to warn people about? [20:03] dont join too many projects at once? :D [20:04] heh [20:05] any in terms of technical usage? [20:06] nothing. its pretty self explanatory === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [21:26] hello. i already have an ssh key i use on gitorious. is is better to create a new one, or use this one on launchpad?