[00:00] <holstein> i would try 'nomodeset' from the live CD you used to install from
[00:00] <holstein> then, you will confirm that it ist he graphics card
[00:00] <xsaidx> holstein: well now i dont have my live usb now i wanna check if its graphical issue or not where can i check that
[00:00] <holstein> if this is something that used to work, and recently broke, you can try what i sugggested to vDexXY
[00:00] <holstein> try an older kernel
[00:01] <xsaidx> holstein: ahh isee just to let you kno ealrlei a days ago i had a conflid in my mother board so i had to deactivate my network card
[00:02] <xsaidx> holstein: infact i had the same poblem im using natty and now installed the kernel 3.1 its not stable is it
[00:02] <holstein> not sure
[00:02] <holstein> i mostly run 10l04
[00:02] <holstein> 10.04*
[00:02] <holstein> i consider the non-LTS's 'testing'
[00:04] <xsaidx> holstein: okies thanks
[00:05] <xsaidx> holstein: i made another account ok and i dont want it to be able to use sudo how can i do that
[00:05] <wxl> i've noticed quite a few changes in network-manager lately tho for me it's been getting nothing but better. it used to be where i couldn't connect more than once to a numeric ssid. that got better. and then it was my wireless was always disabled upon boot. now it's all good.
[00:06] <xsaidx> wxl: any idea how to do that
[00:06] <wxl> i'm on the opposite side of the fence from holstein. i run latest (note, not ubuntu+1) and always include proposed and backports
[00:06] <xsaidx> wxl: i made another account ok and i dont want it to be able to use sudo how can i do that
[00:07] <holstein> wxl: yeah, it can go either way too
[00:07] <wxl> in general it shouldn't by default xsaidx
[00:07] <holstein> with hardware support
[00:07] <holstein> you might get better support from bleeding edge
[00:07] <wxl> holstein: i did get some kernel updates the other day that were fubared
[00:07] <wxl> they were promptly held bakc
[00:07] <holstein> wxl: long as you know what to do... go for it :)
[00:07] <wxl> :)
[00:08] <holstein> xsaidx: try sudo with the new account
[00:09] <xsaidx> holstein: yesh when i do sudo adduser somename i dont wana this account to be able to use sudo
[00:09] <wxl> xsaidx: login to the new user and try to use sudo
[00:09] <wxl> if it works, then we need to fix it
[00:09] <wxl> if not, it's not broken
[00:09] <wxl> (shouldn't be broken)
[00:10] <xsaidx> wxl: i did and used it
[00:10] <wxl> ...and... ?
[00:10] <holstein> xsaidx: so, you made a new user, and you can sudo *as* that new user?
[00:11] <xsaidx> yesh with the new user im able to use sudo and me i dont want this
[00:11] <holstein> when i do 'adduser' in the terminal, that new user comes out default without sudo privs
[00:12] <holstein> xsaidx: would you mind to try that? in the terminal?
[00:12] <holstein> and tell us how you created the user you made already
[00:12] <wxl> isn't user NONE=(NONE) NONE the right syntax for sudoers?
[00:12] <xsaidx> i did sudo adduser name_here
[00:13] <xsaidx> holstein: try what
[00:15] <holstein> xsaidx: right
[00:15] <holstein> thats what works just fine for me
[00:15] <holstein> no sudo rights
[00:16] <xsaidx> holstein: well me ican use in it let me check again haha even i kno already hang on please il swicth to that user
[00:17] <wxl> that's weird
[00:17] <wxl> but not impossible
[00:17] <holstein> the user thing?
[00:17] <wxl> yeah
[00:17] <holstein> i think its something to do with how its being tested
[00:17] <wxl> you can change the template so to speak for new users
[00:17] <wxl> adding them to %admin or %sudo may be what's going on
[00:18] <wxl> ..of course, there's that
[00:18] <holstein> or, how the user was created... some GUI or something
[00:18] <xsaidx> hello guys
[00:19] <xsaidx> im back
[00:19] <wxl> did it work?
[00:19] <xsaidx> yesh hes able to use sudo
[00:19] <holstein> hmmm
[00:19] <wxl> ok so go to system tools > users and groups > manage groups
[00:19] <wxl> check the properties on admin and sudo and make sure that the new user isn't checked
[00:20] <holstein> maybe im just remembering it incorrectly, since no one has that password
[00:20] <xsaidx> holstein: i want to mention that long time ago when i install lbunutu i use sudo with no psw needed to type and changed that manually
[00:20] <holstein> from the live CD?
[00:20] <wxl> if you STILL have the problem then check /etc/sudoers for which groups (that's the %groupname thing) have ALL=(ALL) ALL or ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[00:21] <wxl> you should also look in there to see if there's an explicit line for the user itself
[00:21] <xsaidx> wxl: no this its fixed ; ]
[00:22] <xsaidx> yeh guys its not checked
[00:23] <xsaidx> how can i fix that ?
[00:24] <wxl> go check /etc/sudoers
[00:24] <xsaidx> guys and all the apps installed in my main account are here ready to use is that normal ??
[00:24] <xsaidx> wxl: opned it
[00:24] <wxl> ...and...?
[00:25] <xsaidx> thats my account line in there guest:x:1001:1001:,,,:/home/guest:/bin/bash
[00:25] <wxl> wtf that's not /etc/sudoers syntax
[00:26] <xsaidx> dude hang on
[00:26] <holstein> is this a persistent live xsaidx ?
[00:26] <xsaidx> ill pasite.org the file okies
[00:26] <xsaidx> holstein: yesh it is
[00:27] <holstein> well, i would install
[00:27] <holstein> do a typical install, and you'll get a more typical system
[00:27] <holstein> you can install to USB if thats what you are going for
[00:27] <xsaidx> holstein: thats a typical install
[00:27] <lubuntu214> ram is fine just removed one of them rebooted looked at task manager again and notice it was a lot less then put it back in rebooted and checked and back to what it was. so I guess 2 rams of 1gb each adds up to 1.8 gb
[00:27] <xsaidx> noo i install from live usb
[00:28] <holstein> lubuntu214: yeah, thats fine
[00:28] <holstein> some of its probably your graphics too lubuntu214
[00:28] <lubuntu214> maybe
[00:28] <holstein> lubuntu214: ?
[00:28] <holstein> confirm it
[00:28] <holstein> go in the bios and look
[00:28] <lubuntu214> oh yeah my graphics is really low
[00:29] <xsaidx> lubuntu214: some of it will be used for u graphical thingy
[00:29] <wxl> i got a gig
[00:29] <xsaidx> lubuntu214: its not cus its low cus it doesnt have its own memoy
[00:29] <lubuntu214> my graphics card as memory and its not very much
[00:29] <holstein> that doesnt seem like an error
[00:30] <holstein> lubuntu214: open a terminal and run...
[00:30] <holstein> free -m
[00:30] <xsaidx> guys is that possible what hes sayin cus i assume w constructore will never do such thing
[00:30] <xsaidx> o ami wrong
[00:30] <wxl> weird mine shows 1000 and not less
[00:30] <holstein> cool
[00:30] <lubuntu214> I'll pastebin output
[00:30] <holstein> i got 2004
[00:30] <wxl> no need lubuntu214
[00:31] <holstein> lubuntu214: you can, or just look at the total
[00:31] <xsaidx> my lame /etc/passwd http://pastie.org/2828297
[00:31] <wxl> just look for total mem
[00:31] <wxl> NOT /ETC/PASSWD xsaidx
[00:31] <wxl> /ETC/SUDOERS
[00:31] <lubuntu214> just got my new DVD  dual layer burner/player it works great burning some videos on it now! :)
[00:31] <lubuntu214> its tiny very tiny almost the size of the discs that go in it
[00:31] <lubuntu214> very quite too
[00:31] <wxl> fancy
[00:32] <xsaidx> wxl: ok okay
[00:32] <wxl> my laptop still needs a battery.. i have to run off of ac
[00:32] <lubuntu214> works great in lubuntu
[00:32] <wxl> this thinkpad r60 does have a fingerprint scanner.. would be rad to get that going
[00:32] <lubuntu214> search repo for fingerprint scanner
[00:33] <lubuntu214> there's probably a package for it
[00:33] <xsaidx> wxl: http://pastie.org/2828323
[00:33] <wxl> xsaidx: your last line will ensure that every single user has sudo access
[00:33] <lubuntu214> aes2501-wy - userspace software for usb aes2501 fingerprint scanner
[00:33] <lubuntu214> arp-scan - arp scanning and fingerprinting tool
[00:33] <wxl> not having much experience with a persistent live i'm not sure what ramification that may have
[00:34] <lubuntu214> wxl ^^
[00:34] <wxl> neither, lubuntu214 , sorry
[00:34] <lubuntu214> those packages don't work with your fingerprint scanner?
[00:34] <wxl> arp-scan is for networking
[00:34] <xsaidx> wxl: what you mean with pesistent live well me i have a normal install okies and excuse my lame english undestandin ;]
[00:34] <wxl> and i don't have a usb fingerprint scanner
[00:35] <wxl> xsaidx: use "sudo visudoers" to get rid of the last line of that file
[00:35] <wxl> if you have a normal install there should be no reason why that would have any effect
[00:35] <xsaidx> wxl: will comment it out ight ?
[00:35] <wxl> i'm just not sure why the hell it's there
[00:35] <wxl> it basically says "everyone and anyone has access to everything"
[00:35] <lubuntu214> that was fast for burning a 3.12 gb of data on a 4.8gb data its at 99%
[00:35] <lubuntu214> :)
[00:36] <xsaidx> wxl: as i told you while i installed my lbuntu when i hit sudo i wasnt in ned to type the psw and changed that manualy
[00:36] <wxl> xsaidx: i have no clue what you just said, but i'm sure that last line is your problem
[00:37] <xsaidx> wxl: this install okies the first time i use it when i use sudo i dont need to enter the psw im talkin about my main account
[00:37] <mark_> so
[00:38] <VxDev> no chance^^
[00:38] <wxl> xsaidx: get rid of that line and see what happens
[00:38] <xsaidx> wxl: ok
[00:38] <VxDev> still have the rfkill block problem with my wlan
[00:38] <lubuntu214> dvd burning completed!
[00:38] <lubuntu214> :)
[00:38] <holstein> VxDev: you could try ndis with the windows driver
[00:38] <xsaidx> wxl: thanks but why its doin this
[00:38] <VxDev> never used ndis
[00:39] <VxDev> i am still a linux nub^^
[00:39] <lubuntu214> noobies!
[00:39] <lubuntu214> you are what you think!
[00:39] <lubuntu214> remember that!
[00:39] <VxDev> u tu :p
[00:39] <lubuntu214> if you think you're a nub you are one!
[00:39] <VxDev> *too xD
[00:39] <wxl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677127 >> VxDev
[00:40] <lubuntu214> there was a famous quote by a famous person about that
[00:40] <xsaidx> lubuntu214: its kind of modesty i kno people knows mcuh stuff about IT but they always i think  or sumthin like this
[00:40] <lubuntu214> if you think you're not then you aren't
[00:40] <VxDev> @wxl i have read this thread already
[00:40] <meetingology> VxDev: Error: "wxl" is not a valid command.
[00:40] <VxDev> no help
[00:41] <xsaidx> lubuntu214: maybe you'e but ur juste wrong okies n maybe not so yeah it deponds
[00:41] <lubuntu214> what??
[00:42] <wxl> seems you're not the only one VxDev .. i'd search for your particular adapter and/or computer
[00:42] <wxl> (along with rfkill block)
[00:42] <wxl> wish i could be of further help. might be a bug
[00:42] <xsaidx> lubuntu214: you might think ur not noob but infact u jst wrong and ur nooob
[00:42] <wxl> which is to say you might search launchpad
[00:42] <xsaidx> lubuntu214: you see my point
[00:42] <wxl> did it work, xsaidx ?
[00:42] <xsaidx> wxl: yesh
[00:43] <xsaidx> wxl: other question is it normal to have acces to all apps installed in my main account ?
[00:43] <lubuntu214> not really
[00:43] <holstein> apps, probably... not the other users /home 's though
[00:43] <wxl> xsaidx: you should make sure that you can properly sudo/login with your other accounts
[00:43] <xsaidx> lubuntu214: please change you name to sumthin uncommon
[00:44] <wxl> apps are usually global, but if you access to some other user's private bin that's not good
[00:44] <xsaidx> wxl: ohh it might cause issues ??
[00:44] <nexus6> hello
[00:44] <wxl> xsaidx: if it's broken, it could. you should just double check.
[00:44] <xsaidx> nexus6: nice nickname
[00:44] <VxDev> anyone knows how the command was to get my hardware informations? lp....?^^
[00:45] <holstein> lspci
[00:45] <VxDev> thx
[00:45] <wxl> lshw too but i don't think that's installed by default
[00:46] <wxl> i think if you give lspci -vvvk it will give information on available kernell modules as well as currently installed ones which i imagine would be particularly useful to you VxDev
[00:46] <VxDev> well i first try the ndis method
[00:47] <xsaidx> back guys
[00:47] <VxDev> if this doesnt work, i guess i have to install a windows to turn on wifi again -_-
[00:47] <KM0201> VxDev: what is your wireless device?
[00:47] <reflexrg> other nicks registered
[00:47] <VxDev> 07:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[00:48] <KM0201> VxDev: those should work out of the box.
[00:48] <KM0201> they did for me anyway
[00:48] <VxDev> well it worked
[00:48] <VxDev> till sunday
[00:49] <VxDev> since then it is blocked -_-
[00:49] <KM0201> ..
[00:49] <KM0201> well that doesn't make sense
[00:49] <KM0201> what did you do on saturday?
[00:49] <VxDev> i give my laptop to my brother, he was surfing and the day after that it didnt work anymore^^
[00:50] <xsaidx> VxDev: haha then dont give it to him next time LOL
[00:50] <VxDev> i killed him already^^
[00:50] <VxDev> ;D
[00:50] <KM0201> xsaidx: well, did you ask him what he done?
[00:50] <VxDev> so no chance to get more infos from him
[00:50] <KM0201> VxDev: and before i reinstalled Windows, I'd just reinstall Lubuntu (thats just my opinion)
[00:51] <KM0201> he did something.. obviously
[00:51] <VxDev> already tried a lubuntu-version on my stick
[00:51] <VxDev> and have done this cos the prev method didnt work^^
[00:51] <VxDev> so
[00:51] <xsaidx> KM0201: done what and to who ?
[00:51] <VxDev> i have an old lubuntu-version
[00:51] <VxDev> and still doesnt work
[00:51] <KM0201> xsaidx: sorry, meant that for VxDev
[00:51] <VxDev> Linux hpbook 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:52] <KM0201> VxDev: well download the current version?
[00:52] <VxDev> i thought the whole problem is caused by the latest version
[00:52] <KM0201> VxDev: you're not making any sense
[00:52] <VxDev> why?
[00:52] <xsaidx> VxDev: then try natty
[00:52] <VxDev> everyone says the newest kernel is the cause
[00:53] <VxDev> i have natty -_-
[00:53] <VxDev> 11.04 i think
[00:53] <VxDev> there was an update with 11.10 or something
[00:53] <KM0201> you said it worked fine until saturday(i assume it was the current version when you gave it to him).... now you have it back and it doesn't work, yet you think the current version is the problem.
[00:53] <VxDev> maybe my bro installed it
[00:53] <KM0201> ok, now we're getting somewhere
[00:54] <KM0201> 11.04, that device had a lot of problems (at least it did for me)
[00:54] <wxl> why do you have rfkill again, VxDev ?
[00:54] <KM0201> but honestly, 11.10, it should "just work"
[00:54] <VxDev> to see what was the problem
[00:54] <VxDev> and it seems that my wlan is hardblocked
[00:54] <wxl> so it didn't work BEFORE rfkill?
[00:54] <VxDev> and i cant use fn+f11 to reenable it
[00:54] <VxDev> i guess
[00:54] <wxl> maybe your hotkey is messed up
[00:54] <VxDev> but rfkill was already installed :-\
[00:55] <KM0201> VxDev: try clean installing 11.10
[00:55] <VxDev> all the other hotkeys work perfectly
[00:55] <wxl> that means next to nothing
[00:55] <KM0201> second, your brother needs the crap kicked out of him, you don't do upgrades like that on someone elses machine... when it's on loan to you.
[00:55] <VxDev> oot@hpbook:/home/mark# rfkill list all
[00:55] <VxDev> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes
[00:55] <VxDev> 1: hci0: Bluetooth Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no
[00:56] <VxDev> thats the prob, i dont know what happend to the laptop
[00:56] <VxDev> but well ill try 11.10
[00:57] <KM0201> VxDev: i take it you tried "rfkill unblock all"   right?
[00:57] <VxDev> yes^^
[00:57] <VxDev> and rmmod + unblock + modprobe no chance
[00:58] <VxDev> and i took out the battery, tried 30 secs power button to maybe restart hardware, no chance
[00:58] <VxDev> in bios i cant turn it on or off
[00:59] <KM0201> VxDev: if you boot a live cd/USB... does the device work?
[00:59] <VxDev> the wifi-fn button has a light, if it is off it is red, if it is on it is blue, well booting it it gets from red to blue and it always is blue and i cant turn it off
[00:59] <VxDev> no tried live usb
[00:59] <KM0201> VxDev: ok, what about cd?
[00:59] <VxDev> didnt try, but shouldnt make a difference
[00:59] <VxDev> maybe another ubuntu version?
[01:00] <KM0201> VxDev: you're not making any sense
[01:00] <KM0201> so you have not tried booting a cd or USB?
[01:00] <VxDev> i tried booting an usb :-\
[01:00] <VxDev> but not a cd
[01:00] <KM0201> ok, and your wireless still did not work.
[01:00] <KM0201> on the live usb?
[01:00] <VxDev> yes
[01:01] <KM0201> did you try running rfkill unblock all     on the live usb?
[01:01] <VxDev> yes
[01:03] <VxDev> but as u know rfkill unblock all doesnt effect hard blocked wifi
[01:03] <KM0201> right
[01:03] <KM0201> i'm wondering if there isn't something wrong w/ your wifi switch
[01:05] <VxDev> no plan
[01:05] <VxDev> how can i find out?^^
[01:06] <KM0201> thats the only thing that makes sense
[01:06] <KM0201> maybe bro was a little aggressive when he went to turn it off?
[01:06] <KM0201> frankly i never use those hardware buttons anyway... they do tend to be finicky under Linux
[01:08] <VxDev> aggressive when he turned it off?
[01:08] <lubuntu214> just burnt a dvd and both my internal and external drives can't read it. xfburn said it was completed finne... what gives. I am able to mount dvd movies dunno why he won't mount what I just burnt
[01:09] <VxDev> is it possible to reset the wifi-module if i take the hardware out, reboot, shutdown and put it in again?^^
[01:09] <KM0201> aggressive=broke the button underneath... pushing it way to hard
[01:09] <wxl> there should be an acpi event for that key
[01:09] <wxl> what kind of computer is it?
[01:09] <VxDev> hp 635^^
[01:10] <VxDev> how can i see these acpi events
[01:12] <VxDev> well one guess
[01:12] <VxDev> maybe it is connected to jupiter
[01:13] <VxDev> i used it before to turn my wifi/bluetooth on and off while in plain or train
[01:13] <VxDev> but jupiter didnt work for one week or so, since i changed my panel
[01:13] <VxDev> it seems that jupiter is connected to rfkill
[01:14] <wxl> shit i can't find it
[01:14] <VxDev> ?
[01:15] <wxl> the acpi event
[01:15] <wxl> it's well documented for my thinkpad
[01:15] <VxDev> ah k^^
[01:15] <wxl> holy shit i DO have a usb fingerprint reader
[01:15] <VxDev> isnt there something like dmesg that shows me a log when i push a button
[01:15] <VxDev> :D
[01:16] <KM0201> assuming the button works.. dmesg would probably show it.
[01:16] <VxDev> [   62.428468] atkbd serio0: Use 'setkeycodes e02b <keycode>' to make it known.
[01:16] <VxDev> lol look what i found in dmesg^^
[01:16] <wxl> probably being the key word
[01:16] <wxl> ain't doing crap for me
[01:18] <VxDev> well jupiter didnt solve the problem, so it has to be the button
[01:18] <VxDev> how can i use this setkeycodes... ^^
[01:27] <VxDev> ok i try 11.10
[01:50] <mugwort13> Anyone know of a decent pkg to get cursor feedback in Lubuntu?  (sort of like the spinning wheel in Gnome)
[01:52] <KM0201> nope, sorry
[02:07] <lubuntu214> solved the issue I used brasero instead of xfburn to burn the dvd now when I insert this after burning it actually mounts
[02:08] <lubuntu214> dunno why maybe I should file a bug report
[02:09] <KM0201> lubuntu214: well, xfburn sucks.. it always has.
[02:09] <lubuntu214> I'll have to find my dvd rw don't want to waste another dvd r just for a report
[02:10] <lubuntu214> decided to install brasero cause it doesn't require like a ton of libraries for gnome like k3d does with kde
[02:11] <KM0201> right
[02:11] <lubuntu214> I am really happy with my new dvd player
[02:11] <KM0201> k3b is slick, but installing all those kde libraries sucks.
[02:11] <KM0201> personally, i'm disappointed that gnomebaker is no longer
[02:11] <lubuntu214> it is very quite and it plays avi files very well with playing dvd
[02:12] <lubuntu214> also the price was great too
[02:12] <lubuntu214> 28 dollars for this bad boy
[02:12] <lubuntu214> on amazon
[02:13] <lubuntu214> I had a plextor external I don't recommend it it is an expensive piece of shit that breaks after like 50 burns
[02:13] <lubuntu214> its huge too
[02:13] <lubuntu214> this player is tiny almost the size of the discs that go in it
[03:06] <wxl> harumph
[03:20] <stigz> How do you restart the X server from the command line?
[03:20] <wxl> startx didn't work?
[03:21] <stigz> sudo /etc/lxdm restart
[03:21] <stigz> perhaps?
[03:21] <holstein> sudo reboot ;)
[03:21] <wxl> heh
[03:25] <wxl> the binary is at /usr/sbin/lxdm
[06:43] <wxl> ;mark
[06:43] <bioterror> ;hamill
[06:43] <bioterror> morning
[06:45] <M0hi> wxl: Wrong channel?
[06:45] <wxl> oh bah
[06:45] <wxl> no
[06:45] <wxl> wrong character
[06:45] <bioterror> !mark
[06:45] <wxl> was trying to /mark my spot
[16:21] <xsaidx> hello guys anyone use keepassX
[16:21] <13WAARKUE> I used to use it. Nowadays I use only the inbuild passsword generator of KeePassX whenever I need random name for something.
[16:22] <xsaidx> 13WAARKUE: idk why even i make an autotype username/psw i get nethin when in the fieds when the page  gets opnend
[16:24] <xsaidx> 13WAARKUE: any idea why
[16:25] <13WAARKUE> Sorry, I don't have any idea. I don't think that I ever used that autotype feature.
[16:26] <xsaidx> 13WAARKUE: okay thanks
[18:40] <MGandTL> Err...hi, Julien-there isn't any reasonably sized icons available-what's the protocol for this?
[18:42] <KM0201> say what?
[18:44] <MGandTL> Err....I was talking to julien about a bug I'm fixing. a 'no icon' bug. apprently debian-specific, so not upstream's problem. He said to come here.
[18:44] <MGandTL> IDK, sorry if I came to wrong place.
[18:45] <MGandTL> is there a 'bugs channel instead?
[18:52] <Timo_> MGandTL: you could try #lubuntu-offtopic but I'm not sure if that's the right place, as it is not really off topic :P
[18:52] <Unit193> Or you could ping gilir
[18:53] <MGandTL> Ahh...that's what he said to do, but I didn't know what that meant, so I assumed join this.
[18:53] <MGandTL> :L
[18:53] <MGandTL> Anyone enlighten me?
[18:54] <gilir> MGandTL, just write my name, so I have a notification on IRC :)
[18:55] <MGandTL> ahh....gotcha.
[18:55] <MGandTL> :)
[18:55] <Unit193> (Basically, I just did for you :P )
[18:55] <MGandTL> gilir, what do I do if upstream doesn't supply icon?
[18:56] <MGandTL> thanks, Unit.
[18:57] <gilir> MGandTL, well there are icons in games/ that you can use, it's probably the easier way to fix it
[18:58] <MGandTL> okay, but they are v.small. I was thinking for gnome3 etc, as the bug should affect all of them.
[18:58] <MGandTL> thanks for help, if you think /games would do, that's fine.
[18:58] <MGandTL> :)
[18:58] <MGandTL> I'll get going.
[18:59] <gilir> the other solution is to create them, but you need some artistic skills :)
[18:59] <KM0201> i usually juse google image for icons, and it works out fine.
[19:00] <KM0201> put them all in a common flder, and i know where they are
[19:00] <MGandTL> ok, that's what I did. just checking with people, first ug ever.
[19:01] <MGandTL> *bug
[19:02] <MGandTL> so I'll do the cleaning thing and stick with original, that be ok, gilir?
[19:02] <gilir> KM0201, but you need to check if the license is OK, no very easy for a random image from Google
[19:03] <KM0201> gilir: i've never really worried bout that
[19:03] <MGandTL> true. I'll check site I got it from. I can always replace.
[19:03] <gilir> for you maybe, but not for images you want to put in Ubuntu ;)
[19:03] <MGandTL> How about I check site, file bug in art or something, leave it at that.
[19:03] <MGandTL> ?
[19:03] <KM0201> gilir: well yeah, thats what i was saying "for me".
[19:03] <KM0201> thats why i told him what "i" do..
[19:04] <MGandTL> sorry I'm being a pain.
[19:04] <MGandTL> I'll get back to coding.
[19:04] <MGandTL> :)
[19:04] <gilir> MGandTL, that's why using image in upstream is easier, you're you will not have this type of problems :)
[19:06] <MGandTL> gilir, ok. I'm just not sure what to, the icons aren't really big enough, I asked upstream and they said it's not their problem. Whcih I suppose it's not.
[19:06] <MGandTL> I'll go with the round icon and the blocky appearance won't look too bad in Unity menu.
[19:06] <MGandTL> etc.
[19:06] <MGandTL> If somebody doesn't like it, they can fix it.
[19:07] <MGandTL> round icon from /games, don't worry.
[19:08] <gilir> yes, it's better than nothing
[19:08] <MGandTL> yup. okay, do that.
[19:08] <MGandTL> byeee!
[20:39] <xiaoy> How to add an item to lxde's bottom-bar?
[20:41] <manvo> Right Click on LXPanel > Add/Remove Panel Items
[20:41] <wxl> ..unless you want to add something incompatible, like some gnome applet
[20:41] <wxl> (at least for now)
[20:44] <xiaoy> wxl, thanks for the answer. I just need to add an application launcher, how to do it?
[20:45] <wxl> you mena you want to add to the default pcmanfm and chromium, xiaoy ?
[20:45] <wxl> if so right click on one of them and click on "application launch bar" settings
[20:45] <wxl> if for some reason you're trying to add an app that isn't in the menu, then you need to make an entry for it
[20:46] <wxl> for that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_don.27t_know_how_to_make.2BAC8-add_a_application_to_.22start.22_menu%2E
[20:47] <xiaoy> wxl, yes i need to make first a link in the main menu, the link you posted is about that?
[20:48] <wxl> yep
[20:49] <xiaoy> wxl, thank you very much, that's what i was looking for ;)
[20:52] <wxl> np xiaoy
[21:29] <kevlar_> Hi, I have a question
[21:29] <kevlar_> I just installed lubuntu and I'm wondering how I can access my network forlders
[21:32] <nothingspecial> kevlar_: windows or linux?
[21:34] <kevlar_> Its a windows network folder
[21:35] <wxl> kevlar_: smb://server/share
[21:35] <wxl> in pcmanfm
[21:36] <nothingspecial> kevlar_: You need samba. I know nothing of windows. Sorry.
[21:36] <kevlar_> Thanks
[21:36] <wxl> nothingspecial: samba's already built it
[21:36] <wxl> built in i mean
[21:36] <wxl> pcmanfm will mount it to ~/.gvfs if you want to access it through terminal
[21:37] <wxl> or if you like an all terminal solution:
[21:37] <wxl> mount -t cifs //server/share /mountlocation
[21:38] <wxl> sudo mount -t cifs //server/share /mountlocation