=== luciano_ is now known as virusuy [00:45] holstein: philinux sent an email on the Beginners Team mailing list wanting to do interviews with some of the folks who are gracious enough to volunteer their time in this channel helping users [00:45] duanedesign: i saw that.. [00:45] phil is awesome :) [00:45] i responded... and i'll make sometime [00:45] i thought you were not on the mailing list? [00:46] duanedesign: i got a personal email AFAIK [00:46] ahh [00:46] well I thought of you when i read the email [00:46] :) [00:46] it would be awesome if you get the time. Would be a great chance to let users know about the channel [00:47] and you deserve some kudos for your work :) [00:47] yeah... i think its meen so benificial for so many [00:47] not just the 'i just installed and... whatever' [00:48] the beginner... the ones that are using, but have more advanced questions [00:48] and, helping out really enforces things for me [00:48] i know channels like this and the forums were huge for me when i started using Ubuntu [00:48] plus I think the 'community experience' is part of what makes Linux and FOSS so great [00:49] yeah, and say what you want about ubuntu... this community *is* awesome [00:49] something really cool about people who give an ask for nothing in return [00:49] i agree [01:05] http://i.imgur.com/1Drkx.gif [01:24] hey guys, I'm having trouble with internet on my machine. I just installed 10.04, but my ethernet keeps disconnecting and giving me really poor speeds. If I boot into Windows I do not get this problem [01:24] I can pastebin my log, but I don't know which log I am supposed to select :S [01:24] deper29: are you able to upgrade? [01:24] to 11? [01:25] deper29: just the updates to the packages you have installed [01:25] I'm using my phone as a modem to update right now [01:25] cool... after that, if its still an issue, we can drill down a bit [01:25] it kicks in and out every now and again when I tether it though for some reason [01:25] kk [01:26] few minutes left [01:27] deper29: open a terminal and run [01:27] lspci -nn | grep Network [01:27] should just be a line you can paste here [01:28] no output at all [01:29] deper29: you can run [01:29] lspci [01:29] and put that in pastebin [01:29] I did [01:29] wait [01:29] just lspci? [01:29] yup [01:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/731576/ [01:33] updates just installing now [01:34] maybe you need http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2 [01:34] check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/347711 see if you think its relevant [01:34] Launchpad bug 347711 in linux "Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller Unstable on Jaunty" [Medium,Confirmed] [01:34] its old [01:35] holstein: How do I do that? [01:35] check out that link? [01:35] just review the posts, and see if you find it relavant [01:36] its referencing that driver i linked [01:36] but, first thing is try the updates from canonical [01:36] oh! didn't see that second link :P [01:36] deper29: no worris [01:36] worries* [01:40] installed updates [01:40] restarted [01:40] now it's not connecting through ethernet at all [01:40] whats it seem like? [01:40] interesting [01:41] deper29: usually, i try live CD's til something works, then i make a note of pacakges and kernels [01:41] but, you can try the drivers from the site [01:41] or, the windows drivers [01:41] how do I install the realtek driver? [01:42] depends [01:42] should be instructions [01:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/731584/ [01:44] deper29: ^^ thats from the readme [01:48] thanks :) [01:48] was just reading that [01:52] there we go [01:52] it's working :) [01:52] next question lol [01:52] my resolution is awful. I go to additional drivers, but it says there are none :S [01:52] deper29: you got network? [01:53] I have an Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti [01:53] I have network [01:53] deper29: w00t! [01:54] :) [01:54] thanks for that [01:54] any ideas about this resolution though? [01:54] deper29: this is where i am [01:54] http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/07/install-download-nvidia-driver-for.html [01:55] kk [01:56] looks promising [01:56] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/+packages [01:58] which one should I be downloading from there? [01:58] damn, network connection is there, but not that great :/ [01:58] 120 kB/s [01:59] 50 kB/s [01:59] well, one for lucid [01:59] not sure which is for your card [01:59] deper29: i dont lose sleep over it yet [01:59] the network [01:59] yeah :/ [02:00] deper29: where are you getting that figure? [02:00] some download? [02:00] i'm trying to install some plugins on firefox [02:00] it's down to 30 now [02:00] yeah [02:00] in windows I am around 700 [02:00] dont worry about that [02:00] that could be anythinng [02:00] not on your end [02:01] :/ [02:01] all i've had is grief trying to install ubuntu [02:02] it's like it's not meant for my hardware [02:02] http://www.ryanchapin.com/fv-b-4-627/Simple-Network-Speed-Command-Line-Test-for-Linux.html [02:02] deper29: you can try the windows driver too [02:02] but, its not necessarily on your end [02:02] and there is a driver for your graphics card [02:02] it can be a hassle though [02:02] deper29: i would also just try other live CD's [02:02] like 11.10 [02:02] 11.04 [02:02] whatever [02:03] those are worse haha [02:03] they didn't like my UEFI [02:03] nor did they like my video card [02:03] is this a macbook? [02:03] no [02:03] custom [02:04] well, i would do something like the link above to confirm the throughput is not as expected [02:04] and then, try adding the appropriate PPA for your hardware [02:04] for the graphics card [02:05] bbl... dinner... [02:07] nc: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known [02:08] deper29: just dont base your speed on what you see when downloading something from the internet [02:08] set up something local [02:09] deper29: also, check out wget --output-document=/dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip [02:09] thats from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/426272/how-to-test-internet-connection-speed-from-command-line [03:10] I am trying to set up a DoD Cac card for login to AKO. I have the CAC reader working but it crashes Firefox everytime the card is inserted or if the card is inserted, Firefox will not start. Does anyone know about getting CAC readers to work or is there a better IRC for this type of question? [03:10] btw: using Ubuntu 11.10 and Firefox 7.0.1 [03:11] this is old, but might help [03:11] http://www.hrgeeks.com/2008/11/21/using-a-dod-cac-with-ubuntu-and-firefox/ [03:11] this too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonAccessCard [03:12] I used the information on the hrgeeks site and still have the problem. I posted a question on the site earlier but waiting for a response. [03:13] brian: did you try 10.04? [03:14] No, I did not. I started using Ubuntu at 10.10. I am not sure how to downgrade Ubuntu without a fresh install [03:14] you shouldnt [03:15] brian: you could probably get that running live though [03:15] i mean... if you get tired of waiting on a response, you could try 10.04 live [03:16] Ok, I'll give that a try. I have a live usb of 10.10 laying around somewhere. I'll try that and 10.04 and see if I can get any luck. Thanks! [04:07] help [04:07] r4y, okay [04:07] help with what [04:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/355522 [04:07] Launchpad bug 355522 in gvfs "DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed" [Low,Confirmed] [04:08] I can't mount my hard drive with this CD of Ubuntu and before that it said init was gone [04:08] Why is a bug like this low? [04:09] well you filed a bug i see [04:09] No [04:09] It was someone else [04:09] i am noot sure why it is low [04:09] This is not a dual boot at all [04:10] Well, I have other hard drives, but my cpu makes noises when I try to have 2 hards and my cd player connected [04:10] cd player/cd-rom of coarse [04:11] I sort of have most of my files backed up from a few months ago [04:11] I should try another hard drive I guess [04:12] It would be nice to figure out what is going wrong though [04:13] the bug should yealled that soon [04:18] How do I find out what job is pending?, What can I do? [04:18] top shows jobs running and I would look in your logs as well if it was me [04:18] How? [04:19] r4y: can you format EXT ? [04:19] i would just mark yourself effected, and post a comment [04:19] Will it erase everything? [04:19] O [04:19] r4y: yeah, its a question [04:19] * philipballew agrees with holstein [04:19] its just, if you dont *need* ntfs, you might as well go ext [04:20] Do I do that in Gpart or Disk Utility, or the terminal [04:20] * holstein high-fives philipballew :) [04:20] r4y: dont just do it 'willy-nilly' [04:20] * philipballew gives holstein a bear hug [04:20] lest think about it... [04:20] whats on the drive? windows? or just data? [04:20] "/dev/sda1" [04:20] Ubuntu 10.10 [04:21] and data [04:21] and its ntfs? [04:21] I will check [04:21] if it were my system, i would want to test that drive... theres a 'disk utility' on the live CD's [04:23] A message popped up [04:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/731684/ [04:23] I can't remember where to go to post pictures [04:24] imagebin [04:24] yes [04:24] but, i think you should test that drive [04:24] and the ram too while you're at it [04:24] I will [04:25] r4y: if all is well, i would try and check for, and apply all upgrades [04:25] see if you still have the issue, and let us know :) [04:31] The window for taking screen shots was messing up this image, but what ever [04:31] http://imagebin.antiyes.com/index784.html [04:32] yeah... theres a test there r4y [04:32] I tried to get it to check the file system using DU short for Disk Utility but it keeps saying that some job is pending [04:32] should take a few hours [04:32] thats the one i would want to run, to be sure [04:33] OK, so what do I click on?, or do I use the terminal? [04:34] r4y: right there [04:34] I mean mount doesn't work and check file system doesn't work, so should I try to view smrt data and run self tests?, or? [04:34] 'veiw smart data and run self-tests' [04:36] which test do you recommend?, O, right extended which now I am guessing is why you mentioned ext, right?, Ok then. [04:37] r4y: the long indepth one is the one i like to run [04:37] but, you can run them all if you want [04:37] starting with the short ones [04:38] Failed to read [04:38] see.. thats not good [04:38] i would want to get a live CD [04:38] something to really test that thing [04:38] i would get my data off, if its not already off [04:39] it might be you just need to run fsck [04:39] It sort of is backed up [04:39] and you can do that (and should try it) from a live CD [04:39] I am on a live CD of Ubuntu right now [04:39] r4y: well, just be sure you are prepared to sort-of lose all that data [04:39] just in case [04:39] right [04:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck [04:40] you run it from a live CD [04:40] I should think if there is anything I really need of of this hard drive. [04:40] I have a question [04:41] If there isn't anything I need off of this hard drive then can I just jump to DBAN or Hirens? [04:42] r4y: its your drive.. go for it [04:42] i would try fsck though first [04:42] even if you want to wipe [04:42] just to see it happen, and see if it helps [04:43] I mean I could but will it mark bad sectors with fsck that would be kept after running DBAN?, I mean if I ran fsck then DBAN that is. [04:44] I worded the beginning of that wrong [04:44] dban is just going to do that [04:44] wipe [04:44] fsck could potentially save the install [04:45] So then fsck will not be remembered by the computer for bad sectors if DBAN is done after fsck? [04:45] I think I get it if that is the case [04:46] I wanted to know this before once when I was doing this. [04:46] the computer doesnt have a very intimate relationship with your hard drive [04:46] ha ha nice. [04:46] if you have bad sectors, you want them remapped or whatever the hard drive can do with them [04:47] Well, I might as well run fsck then, but I remember there being different commandline tools for this and different options to add. [04:49] r4y: check out that link... [04:49] you want to run it from a live CD [04:49] prolly on the hirens CD [04:50] Sorry I missed that link. OK checking [04:50] There will be a difference in the command, right? [04:51] r4y: ? [04:51] from the hirnes CD? [04:51] not sure [04:52] might be a click-n-run GUI for it [04:52] I have a disk here that says Hirens Boot CD 10.6 [04:53] I made using Nero on Windows XP about a year ago [04:53] i dont use it, so i dont know... i use the UBCD [04:55] I will make notes and put them into a text file on a flash drive [05:00] For a beginner like me, shouldn't I stick with no-interactive?, Why would this require interaction?, I am guessing if the user somehow knows where the bad sectors are. [05:00] r4y: i dont do interactive [05:01] i just let it do its thing [05:01] and since you are going to wipe anyways [05:02] Well, I might as well try. "fsck -F ???? -y /dev/sda1" [05:02] ext4 [05:03] so "fsck -F ext4 -y /dev/sda1"? [05:03] id have to reference the wiki [05:03] i google it each time ;) [05:04] I had this link I was Googling while we were talking: [05:04] http://www.howforge.com/how-force-fsck-ubuntu [05:05] I am guessing that is the quick one that happens on start up so many boot ups [05:05] r4y: yup [05:06] Should I try that first?, or will that work?, take CD out after doing the command, then I can do the loner version. [05:06] I meant longer one [05:08] r4y: i dont think it will hurt to try forcing that [05:09] Well, I hope it will work, because I am running off of a CD. Well, I should try it at least so here goes nothing. [05:09] Thank you for the help [05:09] right [05:09] it wont work from CD [05:10] the settings wont be persistent [05:10] thats why i didnt suggest it [05:10] OK, that's OK [05:10] but, instigating it from a live CD is not that big of a deal [05:10] Can I do a quick version from the terminal? [05:11] No reboot [05:11] r4y: you should try it [05:13] Uh, you mean try "fsck -F ext4 -y /dev/sda1", is that short?, or is there a shorter way of checking? then I can do the longer check? [05:13] I didn't mean for the last to have a question mark [05:15] r4y: you'll want the ones for your format [05:15] but that looks right for ext [05:18] I am doing some Google searching right now just to educate myself some more on this. [05:19] okay, i don't know how to add the ppa for my machine [05:20] for whoever is listening :P [05:20] deper29: which ppa? [05:21] i do it in the terminal these days... [05:21] A link to the ppa would help because we need the checksum to verify the source of the ppa I think [05:21] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable [05:21] for example [05:22] then you run sudo apt-get update, and Robert is your mother's brother :) [05:22] ha ha, Robert is my mother's brother [05:22] http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/07/install-download-nvidia-driver-for.html [05:22] I am not kidding [05:22] I was given that [05:23] I am running 10.04 [05:23] r4y: hehe [05:23] deper29: yeah, i gave you that [05:23] i know [05:24] im not sure which driver supports your hardware though [05:24] but i don't know what to do with ti [05:24] it was GTX 550 Ti [05:24] right? [05:24] yes [05:25] OK [05:25] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1780211 says You need version 270.41.06 (or later) to support GTX550Ti [05:25] so... lets do this... [05:25] what version is that? [05:26] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/27 [05:26] deper29: there are directions there [05:26] just copy/paste them [05:26] the 2 that look like what i had up there ^^ [05:26] then, install the nvidia stuff [05:27] sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-driver [05:29] update after that, right? [05:30] I found this link: [05:30] depends [05:30] http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/ [05:30] i dont think that'll pull in anything new though [05:30] What about updating before hand? [05:31] kk, I will try this [05:31] I guess it doesn't matter [05:31] thanks so much for your help! [05:31] r4y: OH yeah... thats on the site [05:31] sudo apt-get update [05:31] the install command is not there though [05:32] Should I check for super blocks first? or do fsck first? [05:34] Maybe it will not matter which to do first. But I wonder which will take the longest [05:35] r4y: i would say, experiment around all you want before you wipe, but, i say just do the fsck and reboot and see [05:36] fair enough [05:36] holstein: said it couldn't find nvidia-graphics-driver [05:36] deper29: did you add the PPA? [05:36] yes [05:37] deper29: open a terminal [05:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/731716/ [05:37] and copy this, and paste it in [05:37] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates [05:37] k [05:37] tell me if there are any errors? [05:37] then, sudo apt-get update [05:37] then, you can go with what you know [05:38] kk [05:38] go to synaptic or whatever and search nvidia [05:38] okay, I did those two steps you just said [05:39] deper29: right, so use whatever package manager you are used to [05:39] search nvidia [05:40] just install all? [05:40] or am I looking for something in particular in synaptic? [05:41] hopefully teh nvidia graphics driver from that ppa [05:41] nvidia-graphics-driver? [05:44] deper29: i would just search nvidia [05:44] and look at what comes up [05:45] I did [05:45] ok [05:45] a lot of stuff comes up [05:45] OH, thats good [05:45] one will be the driver you need [05:45] if that PPA is still active [05:46] I don't know what card he has, but I go to system, admin and click on additional drivers, then I picked recommended. [05:46] i really have a challenging time being more helpful with out the hardware in front of me [05:46] is the driver I need called nvidia-graphics-driver [05:46] deper29: thats what i read [05:46] because that doesn't pop up in there [05:46] right [05:46] so, whats that mean? [05:46] the ppa is dea [05:46] d [05:46] r4y: that doesn't work [05:46] its not working [05:46] im not sure [05:46] :( [05:47] deper29: there are plenty other options [05:47] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/+build/2840000 [05:47] I have a question then. [05:47] you know what you need [05:47] just try some diffrent places to you get it [05:47] what is your question? [05:47] yeah, i was assuming you had already looked there rigth deper29 ? [05:47] Have you looked under software sources to see if it is added there? [05:47] in 'restricted drivers' [05:48] yeah, I did. restricted drivers? [05:48] No, go to , your goning to kill me [05:49] r4y: where in software sources [05:49] go to system, preferences. main menu, then you have to find it [05:49] i'm in software sources [05:49] where in there should I be looking [05:49] it needs to be added to system admin software sources [05:50] its added in the sources... the PPA might be dead [05:50] O, you are [05:50] i didnt check it [05:50] ? [05:50] I think it's authentication [05:51] Or other software [05:51] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates [05:51] I don't know [05:51] looks active [05:52] Anyways, that's all I got, the ppa can be added through software sources also. It's an option if the ppa you are trying to use will work for you [05:53] apt-add-repository adds it there [05:53] and pulls in the key [05:54] If it is added then he can look there to see that it is installed [05:54]