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| Laibsch | what is the point of nominating a ticket for precise at this point? example: bug 872924. Isn't precise currently the target for the ticket itself? | 05:20 |
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| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 872924 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Resuming a failed upload crashes with ValueError: I/O operation on closed file (affects: 19) (dups: 3) (heat: 110)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872924 | 05:20 |
| micahg | Laibsch: to make sure it's fixed in precise or if it's a regression in it | 05:24 |
| Laibsch | this would only become relevant if the fix would not be ready by the time precise is release, correct? | 05:27 |
| micahg | no | 05:27 |
| Laibsch | hm, I'm at a loss to understand this, then | 05:27 |
| micahg | bug control policy is to make a task for regressions immediately, also milestoning needs a task on the release in question | 05:28 |
| Laibsch | hm, I'm at a loss to understand this, then. until the time precise is released the master task and the precise task are tracking the same thing. And can be target for milestones. | 05:29 |
| micahg | well, the default task will continue to be default in perpetuity or until LP gets rid of default tasks, so not exactly the same, the reason to make a task is that you want to track that specific release even if it happens to be the focus of development | 05:30 |
| Laibsch | yes. That's why I said "this would only become relevant if the fix would not be ready by the time precise is release, correct?" | 05:32 |
| Laibsch | at the moment it's a preemptive measure | 05:34 |
| micahg | no, that's my point, it's not just relevant then, but now (there are several development milestones and regressions get tracked immediately) | 05:39 |
| Laibsch | The default task and the precise task have currently the same milestone options or am I mistaken? | 05:50 |
| micahg | yes, they do, but the default task is, err...imprecise | 05:50 |
| Laibsch | and concerning "tracking regressions", I suppose that's only possible because one is not supposed to nominate for ubuntu+1 unless it's a regression? | 05:50 |
| micahg | regression or committing to fix in that release AFAIK | 05:51 |
| Laibsch | hm | 05:51 |
| Laibsch | still seems awkward to me. I thought "committing to fix in release X" was done via milestones. | 05:51 |
| Laibsch | Thank you for the explanation | 05:51 |
| Laibsch | I think I mostly got the reasoning behind it now. | 05:52 |
| micahg | you'll notice that when you milestone for the dev release, it says "status tracked in precise" | 05:52 |
| micahg | or whatever the dev release is | 05:52 |
| micahg | it is, but you can track release specific tasks with a query (i.e. show me all the bugs w/precise tasks open), milestones are a little harder as you'll have 2 sets, default task + precise task | 05:53 |
| Laibsch | isn't the query with release specific tasks open currently timing out? | 07:17 |
| Laibsch | well, you are right. The accepted tasks lists is not timing out | 07:18 |
| Laibsch | only the nominations: bug 618399 | 07:18 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 618399 in launchpad "DistroSeries:+nominations timeouts (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/618399 | 07:18 |
| iceroot | can you give me an info how a bug like this is handled? (missing package in 11.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/padevchooser/+bug/851695 | 07:18 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 851695 in padevchooser (Ubuntu) "padevchooser is missing in Ubuntu 11.10 (affects: 10) (heat: 48)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 07:18 |
| iceroot | normally the package needs to be put from debian in 11.10? | 07:19 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: I'd venture to guess you are SOL. Put up a PPA or use a later release, I guess. | 07:20 |
| Laibsch | I don't think this package will come back via an SRU. | 07:20 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: ok. i will check if i found a version (in 10.10 or debian sid) which will work with pulse from 11.10 and build a ppa. when 12.04 is out as an alpha i will check if it is fixed, if not i will mark it for 12.04 | 07:23 |
| micahg | iceroot: it's won't fix unless someone in Debian picks it up again | 07:25 |
| iceroot | micahg: ah ok, so the issue is coming from debian, we only sync what debian is providing. so debian has to pick it up again or we build it without debian directly from source? | 07:27 |
| micahg | no, we won't add it back unless someone is maintaining it in Debian since it's unmaintained upstream | 07:27 |
| iceroot | micahg: so i/we cant do anything. just hoping someone will maintaining it in debian? | 07:28 |
| micahg | iceroot: that's unlikely, you should try to get the features you need into pavucontrol or somewhere else according to debian bug 636151 | 07:29 |
| ubot4 | Debian bug 636151 in ftp.debian.org "RM: padevchooser -- ROM; deprecated" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/636151 | 07:29 |
| iceroot | hm, strange bug on debian.org. pavucontrol is doing something different then padevchooser | 07:30 |
| iceroot | so i dont think it easily possible to merge the functions from padevchooser into pavucontrol | 07:31 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: I've closed the ticket as wontfix. The software is really dead. See my comment on the ticket. | 07:32 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: i will have a look | 07:32 |
| Laibsch | I'm only now reading micahg's comments here and it seems both he and I have the same idea. | 07:32 |
| Laibsch | and marked one dupe of the ticket | 07:36 |
| iceroot | i thought the goal of pulseaudio is this server-client-method :( | 07:36 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: micahg thank you for having a look at it | 07:36 |
| Laibsch | it's unfortunate these things happen. It seems the package was loved by its users. It would be nice to see it in a PPA, maybe. To die a prolonged death, there. ;-) | 07:37 |
| Laibsch | it would be really good if the replacement were able to add the missing functionality quickly, I guess. | 07:38 |
| Laibsch | Heck, I'll open that ticket now. | 07:38 |
| iceroot | yes, it was a real killer-feature. it was so nice to stream your audio input/output to other machines using pulse-audio | 07:38 |
| Laibsch | urgh | 07:39 |
| Laibsch | that package doesn't seem to be in good shape, either | 07:39 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: I'm not familiar with that since I rarely listen to music (it distracts me) | 07:40 |
| Laibsch | but one of my friends also told me about some recent feature where he did something similar | 07:40 |
| Laibsch | I'm sure there is some kind of replacement | 07:40 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: watching youtube on your netbook and streaming the sound to your multimedia-pc connected to the speaks in the living room is another use case | 07:40 |
| Laibsch | yes, that's I think what he was explaining to me. It sounded pretty cool. Not having to wire everything up anew for audio. | 07:41 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: i will do some research if thereis something similar. maybe its merged into pulse directly | 07:41 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: yes and broadcasting, sharing your mic and so on | 07:42 |
| Laibsch | Come back and I can ask him if your search is unsuccessful | 07:42 |
| iceroot | maybe someone can give me a hint to this too? i created a patch, its build upstream, how to get it into ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cpufrequtils/+bug/763590 | 07:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 763590 in cpufrequtils (Ubuntu) "typo in de.po from cpufreq-set (cpufrequtils) (affects: 1) (heat: 3)" [Undecided,New] | 07:44 |
| iceroot | package is in "universe" so i guess i have to build a debdiff and someone from sponsors will built it | 07:46 |
| iceroot | and 12.04 will use the fixed upstream version so no patch is needed | 07:46 |
| iceroot | ah this was on 10.10, i will have a look if it is already fixed in 11.10 | 07:47 |
| iceroot | not fixed in 11.10 | 07:49 |
| micahg | cpufrequtils | 007-1 | oneiric/universe | source, amd64, armel, i386, powerpc | 07:50 |
| micahg | cpufrequtils | 007-2 | precise/universe | source, amd64, armel, i386, powerpc | 07:50 |
| iceroot | yes i was looking into 007-1 | 07:51 |
| iceroot | so the correct way to get it into ubuntu would be a debdiff because of univserse and set sponsors on cc? or what is the workflow for something like that? i know its not a big issue but a good way for learning launchpad, patching and so on :) | 07:52 |
| micahg | iceroot: debdiff, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors | 07:53 |
| iceroot | micahg: 3 debdiffs for 11.04, 11.10, 12.04? | 07:53 |
| micahg | err, is it not fixed in 12.04? | 07:53 |
| iceroot | micahg: have not looked at the source-package yet i will check it if 12.04 is also affected | 07:54 |
| micahg | 10.10-11.10 have the same version ATM, so those would appear to be good candidates | 07:54 |
| iceroot | micahg: ok, i will check 10.10 - 12.04. so i need one debdiff for 10.10 - 11.10 because all are the same version and maybe a second debdiff for 12.04 | 07:56 |
| iceroot | if 12.04 is affected too | 07:56 |
| Laibsch | micahg: subscribe sponsors first, no? ubuntu-sru then release the sponsored package | 07:56 |
| micahg | no, 3 debdiffs | 07:56 |
| micahg | 007-1ubuntu0.XX.YY.1 where XX.YY is the release version | 07:56 |
| iceroot | hm never noticed there is a timestamp | 07:57 |
| iceroot | cpufrequtils_007-1.dsc | 07:58 |
| iceroot | the debdiff will always be the same for 10.10 - 11.10 i think or do i get something wrong? | 07:58 |
| iceroot | also the changelog does not have a timestamp | 07:59 |
| micahg | same except for version and release | 07:59 |
| iceroot | micahg: where in the source-package is the release? (like 10.10) | 07:59 |
| micahg | iceroot: in debian/changelog | 08:00 |
| iceroot | micahg: i dont see any ubuntu information there | 08:00 |
| micahg | it should be maverick-proposed for 10.10 | 08:00 |
| micahg | iceroot: right, since it's unmodified from Debian, please join #ubuntu-motu to have someone help you with this | 08:00 |
| iceroot | micahg: ah ok | 08:00 |
| iceroot | micahg: yes you are right, dch -i was doing something like that | 08:01 |
| iceroot | hm was it dch?.. doesnt matter, now i get what you mean | 08:01 |
| micahg | yep | 08:01 |
| iceroot | thanks again | 08:02 |
| micahg | iceroot: thank you for your work to improve Ubuntu | 08:03 |
| iceroot | is there a way to "apt-get source" sourcepackages without editing /etc/apt/sources.list to put in all releases? | 08:03 |
| micahg | iceroot: pull-lp-source in ubuntu-dev-tools | 08:03 |
| iceroot | micahg: ok | 08:03 |
| iceroot | then i will have a look if the 12.04 version is also affected, providing some debdiff, put sponsors on cc | 08:04 |
| iceroot | so the last one :) | 08:07 |
| iceroot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwalletcli/+bug/802274 i provided a debdiff to a universe package, so i only have to put sponsors on cc and my work is done? | 08:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 802274 in kwalletcli (Ubuntu) "Security issue in kwalletcli_getpin(1): tty I/O now properly disables echoing input when asking for a passphrase is not fixed (affects: 1) (heat: 212)" [Low,Confirmed] | 08:08 |
| micahg | iceroot: for a security issue, ubuntu-security-sponsors | 08:08 |
| micahg | otherwise, yes | 08:09 |
| iceroot | there should be an option in launchpad if the package is in universe there should be ubuntu-sec-sponsors instead of ubuntu-sec on cc. sounds like i will open a new bug against launchpad | 08:11 |
| iceroot | if the bug is marked as security-issue | 08:11 |
| iceroot | s/option/automation | 08:12 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: bug 887456 | 08:15 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 887456 in pavucontrol (Ubuntu) "missing functionality to fully replace padevchooser (heat: 2)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887456 | 08:15 |
| micahg | iceroot: no, sponsoring is a separate function from launchpad, it's a workflow issue in Ubuntu | 08:15 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: to open a ticket against LP itself use https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad | 08:15 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: is bug 526196 what you were asking for in pavucontrol? | 08:16 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 526196 in pavucontrol (Ubuntu) ""Move stream" option not available in pavucontrol in 9.10 (affects: 3)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526196 | 08:16 |
| iceroot | micahg: but launchpad is setting "ubuntu-sec-team" on cc when i open a sec-bug against a universe-package and if i get it correctly, sponsors are responsable for universe-package instead of the "real" ubuntu teams | 08:17 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: yes :( affecting 9.10 then i can imaging that there will nothing happen on 11.10 and so on | 08:18 |
| micahg | yes for the first point, security is subscribed, no for the second, ubuntu-sponsors puts the bug in a work queue for all of Ubuntu, security sponsors is specific for the security team | 08:18 |
| Laibsch | yes, both packages are in terrible shape | 08:18 |
| Laibsch | but 526196 mentioned that the option wasn't available in padvechooser, either?! | 08:19 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: yes, never used it with 9.10 just found that feature in 10.04 and there it is working with padevchooser | 08:19 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: if a patch comes forth things can be fixed. I can drive it for you if it's important to you. But we need a patch. | 08:19 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: hm i am happy that you think i can do it but i think i need more time on the whole thing to patch something like pulseaudio myself (writing the patch myself) | 08:20 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: sounds like a simple UI issue | 08:20 |
| Laibsch | I think what you should do is talk to upstream about it | 08:21 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: but we are talking about patching pavucontrol? | 08:21 |
| Laibsch | make them aware of the UI issue and then hope they give you a patch | 08:21 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: its not clear if the function is in there | 08:21 |
| iceroot | for me | 08:21 |
| Laibsch | I think it is in there. See the comment about the guy clicking rapidly to access the function. | 08:21 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: ok, apt-cache show is giving me Homepage: http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/pavucontrol/ | 08:22 |
| iceroot | so i will open a topic there about it | 08:23 |
| iceroot | to fix it upstream | 08:23 |
| Laibsch | iceroot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pavucontrol/+bug/526196/comments/2 | 08:23 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 526196 in pavucontrol (Ubuntu) ""Move stream" option not available in pavucontrol in 9.10 (affects: 3)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:23 |
| iceroot | Laibsch: i dont see the move stream option in "pavucontrol" from 11.10 | 08:25 |
| Laibsch | OK. I don't use the progream. Apparently the guy in comment 2 found a way to "unhide" it. | 08:25 |
| iceroot | but padevchooser was acting different, i have to start padevchooser on client and server and then i choose "stream audio not to my local system but to the remote system" | 08:26 |
| iceroot | but i will do some research and talk with the maintaines to get it fixed | 08:26 |
| iceroot | so if it is ok for you i will assign this to me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pavucontrol/+bug/887456 | 08:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 887456 in pavucontrol (Ubuntu) "missing functionality to fully replace padevchooser (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Confirmed] | 08:27 |
| Laibsch | Is it OK to remove the patch sticker from attachments which were patch-rejected? | 11:24 |
| Laibsch | I just did this in bug 565146, if you want an example of what I am referring to | 11:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 565146 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-pc postinst fails to install grub to devices not listed in /dev/disk/by-id (affects: 3) (heat: 3)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565146 | 11:38 |
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| iceroot | can someone with an eeepc (and affected by this bug) test the thing from comment #86? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/869502 | 18:04 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 869502 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel-Panic with 3.0.0.12-generic on asus eee pcs and msi wind (both using rt2800 wifi chipset) (affects: 38) (dups: 4) (heat: 210)" [High,Confirmed] | 18:04 |
| spacebug- | hello I just filed a bug and got a mail saying I should try to find out which packages it is in and I'm not really sure. My bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/887617 | 18:52 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 887617 in ubuntu "libreoffice does not always go to launcher when started with shortcut keys (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | 18:52 |
| roadmr | spacebug-: since you mention it happens with libreoffice, that would be a good place to start | 18:54 |
| spacebug- | but it also only happens in gnome/unity not KDE for example | 18:55 |
| roadmr | spacebug-: have you found any other applications that exhibit this problem? have you tried unity-2d? | 18:58 |
| spacebug- | no and no. Maybe I should try that. Good point | 18:59 |
| roadmr | spacebug-: if it only happens with libreoffice and only with unity, I'd still say libreoffice initially, if after triaging it's determined that unity is to blame, it can be switched | 19:00 |
| roadmr | spacebug-: it's still better than having a packageless bug :) | 19:00 |
| spacebug- | yeah ok :) tnx | 19:00 |
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| RedSingularity | jibel: bug 882975 is a bit odd. Seems like it is a core package (or packages) giving the issue. No main.log is being generated either. | 22:25 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 882975 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Can't upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/882975 | 22:25 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, hello, I think the problem is that mountall and upstart are on hold. | 22:34 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, you can see that from the Status line in the dpkg status file | 22:34 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: yeah. What could be holding them? They look official. | 22:46 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, this was set manually with dpkg or aptitude | 22:47 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: do you know the dpkg config file off hand that contains the scrips holding them? | 22:49 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, the status of the files is maintained in /var/lib/dpkg/status but statuses must be modified with dpkg not directly | 22:51 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: ok. I will have a look at the man page then. Thanks. | 22:51 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, e.g to hold mountall run: echo "mountall hold" | dpkg --set-selections | 22:51 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, to unhold run: echo "mountall install" | dpkg --set-selections | 22:52 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: oh excellent! Thanks again :) | 22:52 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, or if you prefer the UI way use aptitude | 22:52 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: through synaptic or via the CLI? | 22:54 |
| jibel | RedSingularity, aptitude without arguments starts a nice ncurses UI. IIRC synaptic can pin packages to a specific version but cannot set them in state hold. | 22:59 |
| RedSingularity | jibel: oh, didnt even know about that interface for aptitude. Very good. | 23:01 |
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