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| mardy | jelmer: hi, about that git import, should I file a bug? | 08:48 |
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| mrevell | Morning | 09:04 |
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| jelmer | is there anything I can do about some of these broken build requests scheduled to run on 26 October? They're still pending, and preventing any other builds of the recipes in question. | 11:06 |
| geser | I guess only ping a LP admin to kill them | 11:45 |
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| bigjools | jelmer: I can cancel them, give me URLs | 11:52 |
| jelmer | bigjools: that'd be great - I've listed the URLs in pastebin here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/733035/ | 12:34 |
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| allenap | jelmer: Can I borrow you to discuss a stacking problem? | 12:36 |
| allenap | jelmer: It doesn't seem possible to bzr push --stacked-on lp:project/series unless you manually expand it to bzr push --stacked-on bzr+ssh://.../~owner/project/series | 12:37 |
| jelmer | allenap: bug 296592 ? | 12:37 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 296592 in Bazaar "--stacked-on option doesn't resolve lp: urls" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/296592 | 12:37 |
| allenap | jelmer: That'll be the one. Thank you :) | 12:38 |
| bigjools | jelmer: all done | 12:39 |
| jelmer | bigjools: thanks! | 12:39 |
| allenap | jelmer: Actually, what happens is that the branch pushes fine, but then the page in Launchpad says "Invalid stacked on location: lp:project/series" | 12:39 |
| allenap | jelmer: https://code.launchpad.net/~dle-credativ/openobject-addons/test-6.0 for example. | 12:39 |
| jelmer | allenap: can you clone the branch ok afterwards? | 12:39 |
| allenap | jelmer: I was able to branch it fine, but I did it into a repo that already had revisions from the stacked on branch. I can try outside now. | 12:40 |
| allenap | s/repo/shared repo/ | 12:41 |
| jelmer | allenap: translating lp: URLs requires an extra step in bzr, so it might just be that bzr is doing that when it's interpreting the stacked-on location but the scanner is not | 12:41 |
| allenap | jelmer: Ah, okay. It seems to be branching fine (it's a ~500MB branch so there's rather a long wait to see if it completes...), so that sounds reasonable. Shall I file a bug or would you prefer to? | 12:42 |
| jelmer | allenap: it looks like we're doing a lookup in BranchSet of the location, so it seems like that's not interpreting lp:openobject-addons/6.0 | 12:43 |
| jelmer | yeah, we're relying on getByUniqueName() to work. Perhaps we should also be checking getByUrl | 12:45 |
| jelmer | allenap: either works for me | 12:46 |
| jelmer | mardy: hi | 12:47 |
| jelmer | mardy: I'm going to file a bug about the issue you ran into | 12:47 |
| allenap | jelmer: Can you file it? You have a better context, and can probably judge its importance better than I can. And my wife is nagging me to go and have lunch. | 12:47 |
| mardy | jelmer: thanks! please ping me with the bug number once it's done, so I'll subscribe to it | 12:49 |
| jelmer | allenap: sure | 12:49 |
| allenap | Thanks. | 12:50 |
| jelmer | allenap: actually, I wonder if this is a dupe of bug 660358 | 12:52 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 660358 in Launchpad itself "Bad interaction between bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/... URLs and branch stacking" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/660358 | 12:52 |
| allenap | jelmer: Yes, sounds like it. Thanks for doing that. | 13:36 |
| * czajkowski hugs sinzui | 14:31 | |
| sinzui | :) | 14:32 |
| czajkowski | thank you | 14:34 |
| askhl | I have a PPA with a package for Maverick, Natty and Oneiric. I fixed a bug in the maverick package and dputted it successfully. How do I release the same package to natty and oneiric? | 15:06 |
| geser | does it need a rebuild? | 15:07 |
| askhl | I tried changing 'maverick' to 'natty' and re-running debuild. And the changes-file says it's natty now. But dput says 'Package has already been uploaded to askhl on ppa.launchpad.net' | 15:07 |
| maxb | Tweak the changelog to specify a different verion and upload target, then reupload | 15:08 |
| askhl | geser, not really, but I wanted a changes-file which had the correct series info (natty) | 15:08 |
| maxb | (Note that you need to change the version too) | 15:08 |
| askhl | Thanks, I hadn't changed the version | 15:08 |
| geser | askhl: how you did do it the first time? just repeat what you did for the first version | 15:08 |
| maxb | You should ensure that the version increases from older to newer distroseries | 15:08 |
| maxb | This will ensure that upgrades work sensibly | 15:09 |
| askhl | geser, the first time I uploaded for maverick, then used 'copy package' (rebuilding binaries in case there were any dependency changes I needed to fix). This seemed to work. But for the update, I tried to copy packages and it gave an error. Hmm, which one was it... | 15:10 |
| askhl | It said there were already existing binaries for that package. | 15:10 |
| askhl | (even though the package version number had been ramped up) | 15:10 |
| maxb | uhm | 15:10 |
| maxb | You cannot "Copy packages" between series in a single PPA, and rebuild the binaries | 15:11 |
| askhl | Evidently not... | 15:11 |
| askhl | Is there a good reason for this? | 15:11 |
| maxb | Yes - without changing the version, there's nothing to identify the separate builds | 15:12 |
| askhl | At that time I had name_version~ppa2 for maverick and ...~ppa1 for natty/oneiric. And I tried to copy the ppa2 to the two newer series | 15:12 |
| geser | having different packages with different dependencies for different release doesn't make apt really happy and it doesn't help you while debugging a bug | 15:13 |
| maxb | You can do that if you do not rebuild the binaries | 15:13 |
| geser | askhl: what is your PPA url? | 15:13 |
| maxb | You cannot rebuild the binaries because then you would have multiple .deb files with the exact same filename | 15:13 |
| askhl | https://launchpad.net/~askhl/+archive/ppa | 15:14 |
| askhl | The debfilename includes ~ppa2, however. So I don't understand that there should be a naming conflict | 15:15 |
| geser | askhl: make sure you copy the binaries too (not only the source) | 15:15 |
| askhl | geser, regarding the dependencies: Between two ubuntu versions a number of MPI/BLAS dependencies changed radically (packages were added/removed/renamed), and I *had* to change the dependencies | 15:16 |
| askhl | So now I'm explicitly asking it to rebuild for each new series | 15:16 |
| askhl | Not sure which two versions it was. But it broke the gpaw package at least | 15:17 |
| maxb | The conflict is between ~ppa2 (maverick-built), ~ppa2 (natty-built) and ~ppa2 (oneiric-built) | 15:17 |
| geser | then you need to upload different version (e.g. ~ppa2~maverick, ~ppa2~natty, ~ppa2~oneiric) to get then rebuild for each release | 15:17 |
| askhl | Ah, okay | 15:18 |
| askhl | How do "normal people" deal with the possibility of dependencies changing? | 15:18 |
| askhl | I mean the whole package repository is subject to this, and presumably it isn't a big problem | 15:18 |
| askhl | If I simply copied, *keeping* the binaries, would that be considered perfectly all right? | 15:19 |
| askhl | Sorry for all these questions, but perhaps I can avoid coming back asking more if I figure these things out :) | 15:20 |
| maxb | For packages that do not contain any binary code, it is often sufficient | 15:20 |
| maxb | Binary code tends to have awkward things like ABIs and such, that may differ from release to release | 15:20 |
| askhl | okay, so for the ASE package it is sufficient. But GPAW is quite complicated so that one I will explicitly rebuild | 15:20 |
| maxb | Of course, binary code isn't the only issue - paths on disk might change from release to release | 15:20 |
| maxb | e.g. a package which just existed to do something with a CUPS printer driver might need to refer to the driver with a different ID string in different releases | 15:21 |
| geser | other PPA user have the same problem, the main archive is not really affected as the devs only upload to the current development version | 15:21 |
| maxb | Or, in the case of SRUs, backports, etc., the package is individually prepared for a specific release anyway | 15:22 |
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| askhl | But do I really need to ramp up to ~ppa3 or write ~ppa2~natty? I can see that other complicated packages (python-numpy) do apparently not need something like that. Although they come from debian, not ppa | 15:24 |
| maxb | In the case of the ~bzr PPA, for example, we have a separate packaging branch for each Ubuntu release, for packages for which differences are required in various releases | 15:24 |
| maxb | ~ppa2~natty is fine, but make sure you understand what the ~ means | 15:25 |
| maxb | For example, if you currently have ~ppa2 in maverick, ~ppa2~natty would be wrong | 15:25 |
| maxb | I find people overuse ~ a lot in PPAs for some reason | 15:25 |
| askhl | Embarrassingly, a lot of this information is actually on https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading . But I think some of it has been changed after I read it the first time. | 15:27 |
| askhl | I think I can figure it out from here. Thank you very much for the help, maxb and geser | 15:29 |
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| maxb | IRC is here for a reason, and Debian versioning is tricky until you're familiar with it :-) | 15:30 |
| askhl | So if I ramp up to ~ppa3~maverick and ~ppa3~natty etc., then it should work. Right? | 15:35 |
| zyga | hi | 15:38 |
| zyga | https://code.launchpad.net/lava-deplyoment-tool | 15:38 |
| zyga | could someone rename this project | 15:38 |
| zyga | I just made a typo there :P | 15:38 |
| zyga | deployment | 15:38 |
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| deryck | rick_h, hi! :) | 16:11 |
| rick_h | deryck: party! | 16:31 |
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| Wardje | I know karma decays over time, but is there a log somewhere of all things you've done on Launchpad over time? | 16:44 |
| bigjools | Wardje: https://launchpad.net/~/+karma is the closest thing | 16:50 |
| Wardje | I feared as much, thanks anyway | 16:51 |
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| Kre10s | hello. | 18:22 |
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| Renegade15 | hello | 18:23 |
| Kre10s | I have made a package, and uploaded it to my ppa repository... however when the package is installed, the executable is not copied into /usr/local/bin/... | 18:23 |
| Renegade15 | well, I've never dealt with LP's PPA system, but if the package is installed, that sounds like the PPA is working just fine | 18:24 |
| jelmer | Kre10s: that's really more of a packaging question, #ubuntu-packaging is probably a better place to ask | 18:24 |
| Kre10s | I have a install target in my makefile. what else do i have to do to get the compiled binary installed? | 18:24 |
| Renegade15 | iow, your package is the issue | 18:24 |
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| gustonegro | hey, how can I send a message or request to a group in launchpad? | 22:20 |
| EvilResistance | gustonegro: define "Request" or "message" | 22:20 |
| EvilResistance | gustonegro: if the group has an email address email it. | 22:21 |
| gustonegro | specifically, I want to ask the maintainers of the libpeas package for ubuntu why they don't include a JS loader (seed or gjs) | 22:21 |
| gustonegro | EvilResistance: oh, okay | 22:22 |
| EvilResistance | one sec | 22:22 |
| EvilResistance | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpeas | 22:22 |
| EvilResistance | that's the source package, you could try there | 22:22 |
| EvilResistance | or here https://launchpad.net/libpeas | 22:22 |
| gustonegro | I'd like to make a feature request, I guess. Or maybe its abug in their build | 22:22 |
| gustonegro | oh, how did you find that? | 22:22 |
| * EvilResistance searched launchpad for 'libpeas' :po | 22:23 | |
| EvilResistance | :P * | 22:23 |
| EvilResistance | youi'd have to file a question to the source package | 22:23 |
| EvilResistance | or send it to the Gnome Project | 22:23 |
| EvilResistance | since the package's project is a part of the Gnome Project | 22:23 |
| gustonegro | I searched lp for libpeas too...but wasn't given anything where I could send a message - "ask a question" | 22:24 |
| EvilResistance | https://launchpad.net/gnome <-- "Ask a Question" | 22:24 |
| EvilResistance | since libpeas' project is part of the gnome project :p | 22:24 |
| gustonegro | when I go here, however, there is not "ask a question" https://launchpad.net/libpeas | 22:24 |
| gustonegro | it's all blanked out | 22:24 |
| EvilResistance | you dont read do you | 22:24 |
| EvilResistance | <EvilResistance> youi'd have to file a question to the source package | 22:25 |
| EvilResistance | <EvilResistance> or send it to the Gnome Project | 22:25 |
| EvilResistance | <EvilResistance> since the package's project is a part of the Gnome Project | 22:25 |
| EvilResistance | and | 22:25 |
| EvilResistance | <EvilResistance> https://launchpad.net/gnome <-- "Ask a Question" | 22:25 |
| EvilResistance | <EvilResistance> since libpeas' project is part of the gnome project :p | 22:25 |
| EvilResistance | oop, i'm hungry... | 22:25 |
| EvilResistance | mustbe dinner time | 22:25 |
| gustonegro | yes, I read that. thank you for your patience too. I'm only aksing how am I suppse to know that ahead of time as a user of the website | 22:25 |
| * EvilResistance walks off to get dinner | 22:25 | |
| EvilResistance | gustonegro: you sometimes need to be able to do some digging | 22:26 |
| EvilResistance | here's an idea. | 22:26 |
| EvilResistance | "If a project has nothing configured for asking questions, btu the project page shows "Part of <other project>", then post to that other project. | 22:26 |
| EvilResistance | Otherwise, contact the maintainer if they accept emails | 22:26 |
| EvilResistance | Otherwise, file a bug against the source package itself. | 22:27 |
| EvilResistance | at least that's my advice to ya | 22:27 |
| * EvilResistance really must eat now | 22:27 | |
| gustonegro | Thanks for you help EvilResistance. Sorry if I am testing your patience. I only find the lp way confusing. Not sure why though, its all there. I just can't ever seem to find what I am looking for. | 22:29 |
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