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lunasspectoHello all. I've done a lot of tinkering, and have extensively perused documentation and forums, but I still can't seem to use my laptop's internal microphone in Lubuntu. (My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1526.) Any ideas?01:33
phillwlunasspecto: If you pop onto the main forum area, they have both a dell area and a laptop area - Have a read through their FAQ's01:37
lunasspectoThanks, I'll give it a shot.01:38
n0ydcan i get wubi to install lubuntu?03:06
wxlhowdy phill05:03
phillwhi wxl sorry, busy catching up on 2 weeks stuff! - ping me if you need me :)05:13
wxlnaw just wanted to say hi05:13
phillwwxl: it went well, eventually... The old saying "never again" rings true... But, I never need to do it again :)05:15
wxlhahahah05:15
wxli got a thinkpad so i'm finally running lubuntu in a more supported state05:15
wxloh sigh05:16
phillwI had a thinkpad running knoppix so many years ago.... the thinkpads should be okay with linux?05:18
* phillw oops wrong channel ... offtopic05:19
IAmNotThatGuylol05:20
l33_hi09:40
l33_any1 here using the rt preempt patched kernel11:09
xiaoyHow to add a new file model in lubuntu? (ex: New Doc Documents.doc)11:29
bioterrorwhat?11:29
xiaoybioterror, when i right click on the file-manager window, and i select create -> new, i just get folder and new file; i wont to add a doc document model file11:32
xiaoylike with the models folder in gnome-ubuntu11:32
xiaoybioterror, also another question: how to add the trash can icon to lubuntu desktop?11:34
bioterrorif I tell you how to add trash icon, do you promise not to whine about "it misses "empty trash" and icon doesnt show if it's full, empty or half full?11:35
bioterrorI have to say I dont know about the first case11:36
xiaoybioterror, XD. i promise11:37
xiaoybioterror, don't worry about the first case, i'll find a solution :)11:40
bioterrorxiaoy, http://forum.lxde.org/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif11:41
bioterrorasdasdasd11:41
bioterrorhttp://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?p=5680&sid=e91b1441eb6a06a22ecd99ee81528916#p568011:41
bioterrorthere you go11:41
xiaoybioterror, sorry again: how to setup default application in lubuntu?11:42
xiaoyex: browser...11:42
bioterroryou have in preferences that11:43
bioterrorI dont have a lubuntu near me atm ;)11:43
xiaoybioterror, ok11:43
bioterrorthere should be default applications or something11:44
xiaoybioterror, hmm when i open the trash icon says: the file doesn't exist11:47
xiaoyalso executing pcmanfm trash:/// gives the same error11:47
bioterrorhmmmm11:48
bioterrorcould it be pcmanfm .local/share/Trash/11:48
bioterrorcould it be pcmanfm ~/.local/share/Trash/11:49
xiaoybioterror, do you get expunged files and info folder in you trash too ?11:50
bioterrordidnt it work?11:51
bioterrordo I really have to dig one usb pendrive somewhere and boot it up? :)11:51
xiaoybioterror, the folder you gave me actually exist but it's got the dirs i just listed you above11:52
bioterrorsure11:52
xiaoyso it works?11:52
bioterrorI dont think so11:52
xiaoybioterror, the folder should be: $HOME/.local/share/Trash/files11:53
xiaoynow i get all the files i deleted11:53
xiaoythanks11:54
xiaoybioterror, maybe for me it's different becouse i installed lubuntu desktop in ubuntu11:56
bioterrordoes not matter11:57
bioterrorit's jus thow pcmanfm handles it11:57
xiaoybioterror, thank you. Time to go for me. Bye12:02
l33_cu12:12
edericohello, I just installed lubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm totally new to it. I would like to know on how to configure keyboard shortcuts on Lubuntu?12:26
bioterrorfrom ~/.config/penbox/lubuntu-rc.xml12:27
bioterrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F for example12:27
edericobioterror: is that addressed to me?12:28
bioterrorusually to the one who asks12:29
edericosorry, sometimes I enter channels and there's a conversation going on12:29
edericothanks12:29
excogitationwho can tell me what package the battery app relies on / with what it confilcts? (xmessage: "low  battery")13:07
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aLeSDhi all13:57
aLeSDis it possible to activate compiz in lubuntu ?13:57
bioterrorsure13:57
aLeSDbioterror, hi ... how ?13:57
bioterrorinstall it and autorun it13:57
bioterroror autostart13:57
bioterrorbut what are the benefits?13:57
aLeSDfaster ?13:58
aLeSDbioterror, lubuntu is lighter than xubuntu ?14:02
bioterrorshould be14:03
Myrttiyou can enable compositing without compiz, dunno how in lubuntu but atleast xubuntu does it14:08
Myrttidon't need compiz only for that reason14:08
aLeSDMyrtti, maybe I don't need 3d effects14:10
Myrttimost of the time I haven't a clue what actual benefit compiz makes, so... yeah. Why do you want compiz, aLeSD?14:10
aLeSDMyrtti, I really dunno14:10
Myrttiif you don't know what you need it for, why install it?14:10
aLeSDeyecandy14:11
Myrttiif you're aiming for lighter system, then everything that you slap on top makes it slower14:11
aLeSDno compiz14:11
aLeSDlubuntu is very fast14:11
aLeSDI moved from ubuntu  ... on my atom14:12
aLeSDand it's amazing : it seems a new pc14:12
aLeSDwhich is the audio sound system of lubuntu ?14:13
Gege71hello14:14
Gege71i can't find any information on how to select sound hardware from volume control, anyone can help please14:15
Souliaqtest16:31
Souliaqsome guru of "xdg(...)autostart"  file?16:32
arkanabarI've upgraded to oneiric and the run command window never has focus, but starts under whatever does.  any ideas?18:06
brother-arkanabar: I see the same thing. not all the time but almost. Haven't pinned it closer yet though18:30
arkanabarIf I were to guess, I'd suspect something in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml .... I probably ought to diff the version from natty with that from oneiric18:33
arkanabarI use a keybinding to launch pcmanfm, and it starts below the app with focus, instead of taking it.18:34
arkanabarbut launching lxterminal with my keybinding, *that* gets focus.18:36
arkanabarsame goes with mouspad.18:41
arkanabarwell, let's see if we can figure out how focus is assigned in lxde.18:53
brother-arkanabar: focus is 100% openbox19:04
brother-or what ever WM you use but openbox is the most common19:04
arkanabarfigured as much.  then it ought to be in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml somewhere.19:17
arkanabarshould probably compare it to default lxde-rc.xml as well as natty's lubuntu-rc.xml.19:20
peter___hi21:06
bioterrorhowdy21:07
peter___can anyone tell me what music player use lubuntu 11.04?21:07
wxlaudacious or gnome-mplayer21:08
bioterrorrecommend a music player or tell what's included in a default install?21:08
wxlthat's default21:08
wxlrecommending one is a thorny topic21:08
bioterrorwxl, no it is not, MOC ;)21:08
peter___in the default install21:08
wxlbioterror: well there's that21:09
peter___audacious?21:09
peter___or what do you recommend?21:10
wxloh jeez21:11
wxltoo many options21:11
wxlwhat do you want? plain or fancy?21:11
wxlgraphical or console?21:11
bioterrormoc21:11
bioterror:)21:11
wxllibrary based or playlist based?21:11
bioterrorlibraries tends to suck21:12
wxltend to21:12
wxlbut some people like them21:12
wxlwhen you have a shit ton of music it's sometimes nice21:12
peter___I want a music player graphical21:12
wxlalso there's the question of what you want to play21:12
bioterrorI dunno how much that's but I hate my phone with library :D21:12
wxljust mp3s? flacs? oggs? apes? wht?21:12
wxlsee, bioterror -=- immediately moc is out21:13
bioterrorwxl, why?21:13
wxl< peter___:#lubuntu> I want a music player graphical21:13
bioterrorterminal is graphical :-)21:13
wxlwell, it is ncurses21:14
wxlbut still, i have a feeling he doesn't mean that21:14
bioterrorsome people likes deadbeef21:14
peter___do you recommend audacious?21:14
peter___or another one?21:14
Unit193vlc -I ncurses :D or just normal if you must...21:14
bioterrorpeter___, we suggest you to try out as many as you can and decide yourself21:14
wxlew vlc21:14
wxli kind of like aqualung21:14
bioterrorfor me last.fm is important feature21:15
wxlsee? you're opening up pandora's box here, peter___21:15
peter___I use VLC for videos21:15
wxljust go try a bunch21:15
wxlopen up lubuntu software center and sort through there21:15
bioterrorinstall mpd and a graphical client :D21:15
peter___I understand jjaa21:15
bioterrorand I got distracted from typing and essay21:16
* bioterror goes back to lurk mode21:16
wxlhey sweet21:16
bioterroran21:16
wxlhttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/10-Linux-Distros-Every-IT-Manager-Should-Know-574208/?kc=EWKNLINF11092011STR121:16
wxllubuntu is one of 10 distros it managers should know21:16
wxlubuntu is NOT to be found21:17
bioterrorhahahaha, crunchbang21:17
wxlyeah well21:17
wxlat least they didn't throw down puppy21:17
bioterrorI've seen CentOS run on servers21:17
bioterrorI would not suggest Mint as they are not so openminded what comes to "do-release-upgrade"21:18
peter___Ok, thanks guys and sorry for my english jeje I'm argentinian21:18
peter___;)21:18
bioterrorat least what I used to use 7 to 9 if I remember right, it was more to "do a fresh installation"21:18
wxlno prob peter___21:18
bioterrorargentina produces good beef21:18
wxli've never used mint21:18
wxldeadbeef?21:18
peter___I cant write english very well21:18
bioterrorso I would again suggest http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ ;)21:19
peter___yeah, we have the best beef of the world21:19
wxli guess i've used mintppc which is some sort of bastard of mint and debian21:19
peter___I guess jaja21:19
wxlbut that doesn't count21:19
lubuntu214I proudly present the best lightweight distro to Lubuntu team!23:15
lubuntu214the selection of apps it installs by default are highly reliable fast and don't ever crash. I can't say the same for xubuntu unfortunately.23:16
holsteinyeah?.. what crashes lubuntu214 ?23:16
lubuntu214well some of the apps that xfce recommends on its site for lightweight alternatives crash and aren't lightweight like they say23:18
holsteinlubuntu214: if you want, you can really help out by documenting that23:18
lubuntu214sure23:19
holsteinsearch for and follow up on bugs, or file new ones for us :)23:19
lubuntu214well they maybe good working apps just that the ones in ubuntu's repo aren't packaged properly23:19
holsteinpotentially, thats why its helpful when you find something to say something about it23:19
lubuntu214Lubuntu is fantastic no crashes on any apps or bugs I have come across so far!23:19
holsteinanyways... i think lubuntu is nice and polished looking for how slim it is as well23:20
lubuntu214yeah I agree23:20
lubuntu214look A+, performance A+23:20
lubuntu214this time with this installation I am keeping track of all apps I remove and install from the time I installed the distro.23:21
lubuntu214also using apps to remove all the junk I don't need and remove all the unneeded packages left over that aren't used by any other apps23:21
lubuntu214bleachbit, gtkorphan and this script I use to remove old unused kernels23:22
lubuntu214so by keeping that list of installed and uninstalled from clean install I keep my distro working smoothly and fast!23:23
lubuntu214:)23:23
lubuntu214maybe lubuntu should have an app that does this list automatically but its no big deal I just update the list manually each time I want to install or remove packages23:25
brother-something like deborphan?23:27
brother-"deborphan - program that can find unused packages, e.g. libraries"23:27
lubuntu214I use gtkorphan frontend to deporphan23:27
brother-then I don't get your last line there23:28
lubuntu214I stated this already scroll up ^^23:28
brother-lubuntu already has it23:28
lubuntu214I see but I like the GUI23:28
lubuntu214I do use commandline apps though23:28
lubuntu214but I don't like to have to learn new ones all the time23:28
brother-ok. you think it is needed and it is already there. even having some kind of gui23:29
lubuntu214this is what I meant by my last line23:29
brother-I probably don't understand the whole picture23:29
brother-the main thing is that you don't know all the things that are in a default ubuntu apt repo?23:30
brother-I think you are far from alone on that one. count me in at least23:30
lubuntu214an app that lists all installed or removed packages from clean install deboprhan seems to only list unused programs that didn't get removed with removed packages23:30
lubuntu214its no bigie I just list this manually23:31
lubuntu214when you remove packages*23:31
brother-apt does keep track of those things these days23:31
brother-there is a flag for automatic or not23:31
lubuntu214for real?23:32
brother-if it is not set to auto it will not be removed when it is orphaned23:32
lubuntu214like from clean install not listing apps installed by default install ones installed by user?23:32
brother-automatic install == package installed as a dependency or such23:32
brother-not auto == single package you forced in there23:32
brother-if foo depends on bar and you do something like apt-get install foo it will add bar and mark it auto. foo will not be marked auot.23:33
brother-when removing foo it will note that bar is still installed and remove that if no other package depend on it23:33
lubuntu214well I think my idea will benefit lubuntu I'll write up a report on it later and example enough in detail to get my point and full understanding across23:33
lubuntu214I have things to do right now23:34
lubuntu214explain*23:34
brother-a "clean" install is a hard case too. I guess you mean lubuntu-desktop as base line23:34
brother-that's not how I set my things up =)23:34
lubuntu214bleachbit can do clean autoclean and autoremove well I've heard that the auto's can break things so I'd only recommend that for advanced users.23:35
lubuntu214bleachbit removes just about all the junk files you don't need the only thing I've notice it doesn't is unused kernels and orphan packages23:36
lubuntu214okay have to go now23:36
phillwhi lubuntu214 and brother- have a quick read of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2423:53
lubuntu214sorry my bad it was autoremove that someone told me it can cause problems sometimes23:55
lubuntu214I have no idea if it does or doesn't I haven't had a problem with it23:55
lubuntu214phillw ^^23:55
phillwlubuntu214: have a look through http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=4 that does cover some of the advanced features of admin, but they really should not be required.23:57
lubuntu214I think they told me that sometimes it can removed dependences of other apps that are still installed by where also a dependency for another app that was uninstalled23:57

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