[01:33] <lunasspecto> Hello all. I've done a lot of tinkering, and have extensively perused documentation and forums, but I still can't seem to use my laptop's internal microphone in Lubuntu. (My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1526.) Any ideas?
[01:37] <phillw> lunasspecto: If you pop onto the main forum area, they have both a dell area and a laptop area - Have a read through their FAQ's
[01:38] <lunasspecto> Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[03:06] <n0yd> can i get wubi to install lubuntu?
[05:03] <wxl> howdy phill
[05:13] <phillw> hi wxl sorry, busy catching up on 2 weeks stuff! - ping me if you need me :)
[05:13] <wxl> naw just wanted to say hi
[05:15] <phillw> wxl: it went well, eventually... The old saying "never again" rings true... But, I never need to do it again :)
[05:15] <wxl> hahahah
[05:15] <wxl> i got a thinkpad so i'm finally running lubuntu in a more supported state
[05:16] <wxl> oh sigh
[05:18] <phillw> I had a thinkpad running knoppix so many years ago.... the thinkpads should be okay with linux?
[05:19]  * phillw oops wrong channel ... offtopic
[05:20] <IAmNotThatGuy> lol
[09:40] <l33_> hi
[11:09] <l33_> any1 here using the rt preempt patched kernel
[11:29] <xiaoy> How to add a new file model in lubuntu? (ex: New Doc Documents.doc)
[11:29] <bioterror> what?
[11:32] <xiaoy> bioterror, when i right click on the file-manager window, and i select create -> new, i just get folder and new file; i wont to add a doc document model file
[11:32] <xiaoy> like with the models folder in gnome-ubuntu
[11:34] <xiaoy> bioterror, also another question: how to add the trash can icon to lubuntu desktop?
[11:35] <bioterror> if I tell you how to add trash icon, do you promise not to whine about "it misses "empty trash" and icon doesnt show if it's full, empty or half full?
[11:36] <bioterror> I have to say I dont know about the first case
[11:37] <xiaoy> bioterror, XD. i promise
[11:40] <xiaoy> bioterror, don't worry about the first case, i'll find a solution :)
[11:41] <bioterror> xiaoy, http://forum.lxde.org/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif
[11:41] <bioterror> asdasdasd
[11:41] <bioterror> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?p=5680&sid=e91b1441eb6a06a22ecd99ee81528916#p5680
[11:41] <bioterror> there you go
[11:42] <xiaoy> bioterror, sorry again: how to setup default application in lubuntu?
[11:42] <xiaoy> ex: browser...
[11:43] <bioterror> you have in preferences that
[11:43] <bioterror> I dont have a lubuntu near me atm ;)
[11:43] <xiaoy> bioterror, ok
[11:44] <bioterror> there should be default applications or something
[11:47] <xiaoy> bioterror, hmm when i open the trash icon says: the file doesn't exist
[11:47] <xiaoy> also executing pcmanfm trash:/// gives the same error
[11:48] <bioterror> hmmmm
[11:48] <bioterror> could it be pcmanfm .local/share/Trash/
[11:49] <bioterror> could it be pcmanfm ~/.local/share/Trash/
[11:50] <xiaoy> bioterror, do you get expunged files and info folder in you trash too ?
[11:51] <bioterror> didnt it work?
[11:51] <bioterror> do I really have to dig one usb pendrive somewhere and boot it up? :)
[11:52] <xiaoy> bioterror, the folder you gave me actually exist but it's got the dirs i just listed you above
[11:52] <bioterror> sure
[11:52] <xiaoy> so it works?
[11:52] <bioterror> I dont think so
[11:53] <xiaoy> bioterror, the folder should be: $HOME/.local/share/Trash/files
[11:53] <xiaoy> now i get all the files i deleted
[11:54] <xiaoy> thanks
[11:56] <xiaoy> bioterror, maybe for me it's different becouse i installed lubuntu desktop in ubuntu
[11:57] <bioterror> does not matter
[11:57] <bioterror> it's jus thow pcmanfm handles it
[12:02] <xiaoy> bioterror, thank you. Time to go for me. Bye
[12:12] <l33_> cu
[12:26] <ederico> hello, I just installed lubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm totally new to it. I would like to know on how to configure keyboard shortcuts on Lubuntu?
[12:27] <bioterror> from ~/.config/penbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[12:27] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F for example
[12:28] <ederico> bioterror: is that addressed to me?
[12:29] <bioterror> usually to the one who asks
[12:29] <ederico> sorry, sometimes I enter channels and there's a conversation going on
[12:29] <ederico> thanks
[13:07] <excogitation> who can tell me what package the battery app relies on / with what it confilcts? (xmessage: "low  battery")
[13:57] <aLeSD> hi all
[13:57] <aLeSD> is it possible to activate compiz in lubuntu ?
[13:57] <bioterror> sure
[13:57] <aLeSD> bioterror, hi ... how ?
[13:57] <bioterror> install it and autorun it
[13:57] <bioterror> or autostart
[13:57] <bioterror> but what are the benefits?
[13:58] <aLeSD> faster ?
[14:02] <aLeSD> bioterror, lubuntu is lighter than xubuntu ?
[14:03] <bioterror> should be
[14:08] <Myrtti> you can enable compositing without compiz, dunno how in lubuntu but atleast xubuntu does it
[14:08] <Myrtti> don't need compiz only for that reason
[14:10] <aLeSD> Myrtti, maybe I don't need 3d effects
[14:10] <Myrtti> most of the time I haven't a clue what actual benefit compiz makes, so... yeah. Why do you want compiz, aLeSD?
[14:10] <aLeSD> Myrtti, I really dunno
[14:10] <Myrtti> if you don't know what you need it for, why install it?
[14:11] <aLeSD> eyecandy
[14:11] <Myrtti> if you're aiming for lighter system, then everything that you slap on top makes it slower
[14:11] <aLeSD> no compiz
[14:11] <aLeSD> lubuntu is very fast
[14:12] <aLeSD> I moved from ubuntu  ... on my atom
[14:12] <aLeSD> and it's amazing : it seems a new pc
[14:13] <aLeSD> which is the audio sound system of lubuntu ?
[14:14] <Gege71> hello
[14:15] <Gege71> i can't find any information on how to select sound hardware from volume control, anyone can help please
[16:31] <Souliaq> test
[16:32] <Souliaq> some guru of "xdg(...)autostart"  file?
[18:06] <arkanabar> I've upgraded to oneiric and the run command window never has focus, but starts under whatever does.  any ideas?
[18:30] <brother-> arkanabar: I see the same thing. not all the time but almost. Haven't pinned it closer yet though
[18:33] <arkanabar> If I were to guess, I'd suspect something in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml .... I probably ought to diff the version from natty with that from oneiric
[18:34] <arkanabar> I use a keybinding to launch pcmanfm, and it starts below the app with focus, instead of taking it.
[18:36] <arkanabar> but launching lxterminal with my keybinding, *that* gets focus.
[18:41] <arkanabar> same goes with mouspad.
[18:53] <arkanabar> well, let's see if we can figure out how focus is assigned in lxde.
[19:04] <brother-> arkanabar: focus is 100% openbox
[19:04] <brother-> or what ever WM you use but openbox is the most common
[19:17] <arkanabar> figured as much.  then it ought to be in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml somewhere.
[19:20] <arkanabar> should probably compare it to default lxde-rc.xml as well as natty's lubuntu-rc.xml.
[21:06] <peter___> hi
[21:07] <bioterror> howdy
[21:07] <peter___> can anyone tell me what music player use lubuntu 11.04?
[21:08] <wxl> audacious or gnome-mplayer
[21:08] <bioterror> recommend a music player or tell what's included in a default install?
[21:08] <wxl> that's default
[21:08] <wxl> recommending one is a thorny topic
[21:08] <bioterror> wxl, no it is not, MOC ;)
[21:08] <peter___> in the default install
[21:09] <wxl> bioterror: well there's that
[21:09] <peter___> audacious?
[21:10] <peter___> or what do you recommend?
[21:11] <wxl> oh jeez
[21:11] <wxl> too many options
[21:11] <wxl> what do you want? plain or fancy?
[21:11] <wxl> graphical or console?
[21:11] <bioterror> moc
[21:11] <bioterror> :)
[21:11] <wxl> library based or playlist based?
[21:12] <bioterror> libraries tends to suck
[21:12] <wxl> tend to
[21:12] <wxl> but some people like them
[21:12] <wxl> when you have a shit ton of music it's sometimes nice
[21:12] <peter___> I want a music player graphical
[21:12] <wxl> also there's the question of what you want to play
[21:12] <bioterror> I dunno how much that's but I hate my phone with library :D
[21:12] <wxl> just mp3s? flacs? oggs? apes? wht?
[21:13] <wxl> see, bioterror -=- immediately moc is out
[21:13] <bioterror> wxl, why?
[21:13] <wxl> < peter___:#lubuntu> I want a music player graphical
[21:13] <bioterror> terminal is graphical :-)
[21:14] <wxl> well, it is ncurses
[21:14] <wxl> but still, i have a feeling he doesn't mean that
[21:14] <bioterror> some people likes deadbeef
[21:14] <peter___> do you recommend audacious?
[21:14] <peter___> or another one?
[21:14] <Unit193> vlc -I ncurses :D or just normal if you must...
[21:14] <bioterror> peter___, we suggest you to try out as many as you can and decide yourself
[21:14] <wxl> ew vlc
[21:14] <wxl> i kind of like aqualung
[21:15] <bioterror> for me last.fm is important feature
[21:15] <wxl> see? you're opening up pandora's box here, peter___
[21:15] <peter___> I use VLC for videos
[21:15] <wxl> just go try a bunch
[21:15] <wxl> open up lubuntu software center and sort through there
[21:15] <bioterror> install mpd and a graphical client :D
[21:15] <peter___> I understand jjaa
[21:16] <bioterror> and I got distracted from typing and essay
[21:16]  * bioterror goes back to lurk mode
[21:16] <wxl> hey sweet
[21:16] <bioterror> an
[21:16] <wxl> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/10-Linux-Distros-Every-IT-Manager-Should-Know-574208/?kc=EWKNLINF11092011STR1
[21:16] <wxl> lubuntu is one of 10 distros it managers should know
[21:17] <wxl> ubuntu is NOT to be found
[21:17] <bioterror> hahahaha, crunchbang
[21:17] <wxl> yeah well
[21:17] <wxl> at least they didn't throw down puppy
[21:17] <bioterror> I've seen CentOS run on servers
[21:18] <bioterror> I would not suggest Mint as they are not so openminded what comes to "do-release-upgrade"
[21:18] <peter___> Ok, thanks guys and sorry for my english jeje I'm argentinian
[21:18] <peter___> ;)
[21:18] <bioterror> at least what I used to use 7 to 9 if I remember right, it was more to "do a fresh installation"
[21:18] <wxl> no prob peter___
[21:18] <bioterror> argentina produces good beef
[21:18] <wxl> i've never used mint
[21:18] <wxl> deadbeef?
[21:18] <peter___> I cant write english very well
[21:19] <bioterror> so I would again suggest http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ ;)
[21:19] <peter___> yeah, we have the best beef of the world
[21:19] <wxl> i guess i've used mintppc which is some sort of bastard of mint and debian
[21:19] <peter___> I guess jaja
[21:19] <wxl> but that doesn't count
[23:15] <lubuntu214> I proudly present the best lightweight distro to Lubuntu team!
[23:16] <lubuntu214> the selection of apps it installs by default are highly reliable fast and don't ever crash. I can't say the same for xubuntu unfortunately.
[23:16] <holstein> yeah?.. what crashes lubuntu214 ?
[23:18] <lubuntu214> well some of the apps that xfce recommends on its site for lightweight alternatives crash and aren't lightweight like they say
[23:18] <holstein> lubuntu214: if you want, you can really help out by documenting that
[23:19] <lubuntu214> sure
[23:19] <holstein> search for and follow up on bugs, or file new ones for us :)
[23:19] <lubuntu214> well they maybe good working apps just that the ones in ubuntu's repo aren't packaged properly
[23:19] <holstein> potentially, thats why its helpful when you find something to say something about it
[23:19] <lubuntu214> Lubuntu is fantastic no crashes on any apps or bugs I have come across so far!
[23:20] <holstein> anyways... i think lubuntu is nice and polished looking for how slim it is as well
[23:20] <lubuntu214> yeah I agree
[23:20] <lubuntu214> look A+, performance A+
[23:21] <lubuntu214> this time with this installation I am keeping track of all apps I remove and install from the time I installed the distro.
[23:21] <lubuntu214> also using apps to remove all the junk I don't need and remove all the unneeded packages left over that aren't used by any other apps
[23:22] <lubuntu214> bleachbit, gtkorphan and this script I use to remove old unused kernels
[23:23] <lubuntu214> so by keeping that list of installed and uninstalled from clean install I keep my distro working smoothly and fast!
[23:23] <lubuntu214> :)
[23:25] <lubuntu214> maybe lubuntu should have an app that does this list automatically but its no big deal I just update the list manually each time I want to install or remove packages
[23:27] <brother-> something like deborphan?
[23:27] <brother-> "deborphan - program that can find unused packages, e.g. libraries"
[23:27] <lubuntu214> I use gtkorphan frontend to deporphan
[23:28] <brother-> then I don't get your last line there
[23:28] <lubuntu214> I stated this already scroll up ^^
[23:28] <brother-> lubuntu already has it
[23:28] <lubuntu214> I see but I like the GUI
[23:28] <lubuntu214> I do use commandline apps though
[23:28] <lubuntu214> but I don't like to have to learn new ones all the time
[23:29] <brother-> ok. you think it is needed and it is already there. even having some kind of gui
[23:29] <lubuntu214> this is what I meant by my last line
[23:29] <brother-> I probably don't understand the whole picture
[23:30] <brother-> the main thing is that you don't know all the things that are in a default ubuntu apt repo?
[23:30] <brother-> I think you are far from alone on that one. count me in at least
[23:30] <lubuntu214> an app that lists all installed or removed packages from clean install deboprhan seems to only list unused programs that didn't get removed with removed packages
[23:31] <lubuntu214> its no bigie I just list this manually
[23:31] <lubuntu214> when you remove packages*
[23:31] <brother-> apt does keep track of those things these days
[23:31] <brother-> there is a flag for automatic or not
[23:32] <lubuntu214> for real?
[23:32] <brother-> if it is not set to auto it will not be removed when it is orphaned
[23:32] <lubuntu214> like from clean install not listing apps installed by default install ones installed by user?
[23:32] <brother-> automatic install == package installed as a dependency or such
[23:32] <brother-> not auto == single package you forced in there
[23:33] <brother-> if foo depends on bar and you do something like apt-get install foo it will add bar and mark it auto. foo will not be marked auot.
[23:33] <brother-> when removing foo it will note that bar is still installed and remove that if no other package depend on it
[23:33] <lubuntu214> well I think my idea will benefit lubuntu I'll write up a report on it later and example enough in detail to get my point and full understanding across
[23:34] <lubuntu214> I have things to do right now
[23:34] <lubuntu214> explain*
[23:34] <brother-> a "clean" install is a hard case too. I guess you mean lubuntu-desktop as base line
[23:34] <brother-> that's not how I set my things up =)
[23:35] <lubuntu214> bleachbit can do clean autoclean and autoremove well I've heard that the auto's can break things so I'd only recommend that for advanced users.
[23:36] <lubuntu214> bleachbit removes just about all the junk files you don't need the only thing I've notice it doesn't is unused kernels and orphan packages
[23:36] <lubuntu214> okay have to go now
[23:53] <phillw> hi lubuntu214 and brother- have a quick read of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24
[23:55] <lubuntu214> sorry my bad it was autoremove that someone told me it can cause problems sometimes
[23:55] <lubuntu214> I have no idea if it does or doesn't I haven't had a problem with it
[23:55] <lubuntu214> phillw ^^
[23:57] <phillw> lubuntu214: have a look through http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=4 that does cover some of the advanced features of admin, but they really should not be required.
[23:57] <lubuntu214> I think they told me that sometimes it can removed dependences of other apps that are still installed by where also a dependency for another app that was uninstalled