[00:00] leex: actually, it seems that this package only breaks things if you specifically choose to configure it [00:01] Choices: configure now, configure later, skip and leave config as it is [00:01] Default: skip and leave config as it is [00:01] by default, the package does not create /etc/decnet.conf [00:01] and with no decnet.conf, /etc/init.d/decnet does not mangle the interface configuration. [00:02] slangasek: as said I did not install it by hand, it must have been part of a dependency, therefore I did not configure anything on my own [00:03] just did aptitude update+upgrade, wouldn't have noticed it unless it happened on both my machines [00:04] slangasek: but i am using the daily ppa for firefox and mplayer, that might have something to do with it [00:04] leex: ah, I see, this is Debian bug #637179, which did exist in versions prior to the latest version in precise [00:04] Debian bug 637179 in dnet-common "postinst script does always generate node database" [Critical,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/637179 [00:05] slangasek: ok, the mysql 5.5.17 in the repo I pointed you to builds... [00:05] Build needed 02:24:21, 1379708k disc space [00:05] slangasek: with current sid [00:05] SpamapS: spiff [00:05] did not build an experimental chroot :p [00:06] shouldn't be necessary :) [00:06] slangasek: I also have a merged version for Ubuntu.. so as soon as its accepted we can upload a merge and start the rebuilding. [00:06] probably worth loading up a PPA with those rebuilds now [00:06] no sense waiting [00:07] hmm, not in sync? [00:09] slangasek, I solve probelem, I used another mail :) [00:09] slangasek: no, there's an upstart job and a few other bits [00:10] slangasek: I'm sure we can get them in sync soon tho [00:10] jasox: great :) [00:10] slangasek: I will go to bed now, it's quite late here, but I will check for PMs tomorrow if you send me one ;) [00:10] good night and thanks [00:10] leex: good night [00:10] slangasek: IIRC some of our changes were somewhat big so we could drop some binary bits to universe. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:17] tjaalton, RAOF, can you give me any suggestions on what to do/test for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/745112 [00:17] Launchpad bug 745112 in linux (Ubuntu) "[arrandale] desktop is messed up with external monitors (x86_64)" [Critical,Triaged] [00:22] poolie, slangasek, are either of you able to set releasedate for oneiric in launchpad? It's returning None presently [00:22] slangasek: can you point me at an old version of something that is missing the .xz pre-depends so i can test the lintian check? [00:23] bryceh, just so you know you can ask 'losa' in #launchpad to do superuser type things [00:23] bryceh: no; I've been asked this before, I've never seen any releasedate for distributions [00:23] we have release dates for milestones, the releasedate for the series is something new [00:23] poolie: I doubt it's in the UI at all [00:24] broder: I did this one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/lyx/2.0.1-1ubuntu1 [00:24] released: oneiric None [00:24] Supported natty 2011-04-28 11:36:14+00:00 [00:24] Supported maverick 2010-10-10 10:19:39.197066+00:00 [00:24] Supported lucid 2010-04-29 17:33:27.289933+00:00 [00:24] Supported hardy 2008-04-24 00:00:00+00:00 [00:24] i doubt i can change it myself [00:24] micahg: perfect, thanks [00:24] poolie: as a general rule, with some known exceptions, we don't go near the ubuntu stuff. "can" as distinct from "should/shall" [00:24] bryceh: Are those actually accurate? [00:25] * infinity grumbles at no longer having access to things like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+edit === bregma__ is now known as bregma [00:26] infinity, they appear to be in the ballpark but I didn't check exact dates [00:26] infinity: hrm, *that* seems to be a regression [00:27] slangasek: I don't think it is. [00:27] slangasek: Unless you mean me not being a duckie is a regression, and I agree. ;) [00:27] infinity: I'm pretty sure I remember ubuntu-release giving access to that before [00:28] slangasek: I don't think release ever did, except as a subset of drivers, which they no longer are. [00:28] well [00:28] that's a regression ;) [00:28] slangasek: Ubuntu and ubuntu-drivers is still ickily special-cased all over, despite the lies the UI tells. [00:29] bryceh: I filed a bug for that date to be changed, too. Hoping that someone would at least set oneiric's date before ignoring the longer term bug of setting it automatically, but no such luck [00:31] bug 876345 fwiw [00:31] Launchpad bug 876345 in Launchpad itself "distro series releasedate not automatically set" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876345 [00:31] tumbleweed, thanks === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [00:35] Who do I poke to get a new topic added to the status.u.c page? [01:03] bjsnider: dh_make puts '8' in debian/compat, so the Build-Depends it sets is correct for that. If you want to make it build in contexts where debhelper 8 is unavailable, then you also need to drop the compat level; but I do think the default in dh_make is reasonable, given that 8 is debhelper's current recommended lvel [01:03] *level [01:03] spm: FWIW we asked for the natty release date to be set by LOSAs (and it was done) on the basis that there was no way for us to do it otherwise and people were complaining to us [01:04] (for values of "we" that aren't me; I don't know if a bug was filed) [01:04] oh, let's read more scrollback, how about that [01:04] cjwatson: ahh! that's new to me. it's usually just been the freeze/unfreeze thing. [01:04] heh [01:04] spm: I'd kind of hoped it was a one-off [01:05] it's clearly nonsense for it to have to be set manually after the fact [01:07] @pilot out === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Precise open for uploads | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | build failures -> http://bit.ly/or6CHJ | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for hardy -> oneiric | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: SpamapS [01:26] SpamapS: still doing the build here; I think I started mine significantly after yours :) [01:28] slangasek: the tests are brutal on I/O [01:29] @pilot out === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Precise open for uploads | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | build failures -> http://bit.ly/or6CHJ | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for hardy -> oneiric | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: [01:29] maybe I should've run 'eatmydata svn-buildpackage' [01:33] I have a feeling that might cause the test suite to freak out. ;) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [01:38] hello , I am new to linux programming and I want to create a package for ubuntu contains some files to extract on certain paths on my system .. i did create the deb file using dpkg-deb but I need to create a PPA for that can you hel me :) [01:44] dr3mro, you can create a PPA from the home page of your Launchpad account [01:46] bregma, i did the ppa and fail to build [01:46] bregma, it's not a source code but rather a bunch of scripts and files to extract [01:48] PPAs require a proper source package to build the debs from, perhaps you just want a local archive on your own machine? [01:54] dr3mro, where's the buildlog? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [03:03] SpamapS: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/offlineimap/+bug/877883 ? [03:03] Launchpad bug 877883 in offlineimap (Ubuntu) "offlineimap occasionally deletes mail it has previously downloaded" [Medium,Incomplete] [03:26] dbus build-depending on dbus is brilliant. [03:27] * infinity shakes his head. [03:27] ugh, there are too many of those [03:28] broder: Some of them have valid excuses (like compilers). [03:28] broder: dbus has no such clever excuse. [03:29] Perhaps dbus only wishes to send messages to itself about how the compile is going. [03:30] StevenK: *laugh* [03:30] StevenK: It actually build-deps on python-dbus, libdbus-glib-1-dev, which is actually pretty bizarre, but I can't be bothered to hunt down why. A few by-hand builds and some mangling, and it's easy enough to work around. [03:31] I'd like to get to a point some day where after hand-bootstrapping a toolchain, the rest of the distro can "just build", though. That would be novel. [03:31] infinity: See also 'pipe-dream' [03:31] That was a good game. [03:31] infinity: debian/control has: [03:32] # libdbus-glib-1-dev and libglib2.0-dev can be omitted for bootstrapping, [03:32] # but if you have them in Build-Depends, more tests can be run [03:32] broder: And python-dbus? [03:32] * infinity shrug. [03:32] s [03:32] That's basically what I did anyway. [03:32] uh, don't know - i only have an old package lying around at the moment [03:32] Though, with the usual interim "build, fail, and install anyway" step. [03:33] I'm already over it. ;) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [05:11] Good morning [05:13] hi pitti [06:24] mwhudson: no I hadn't, but that is *definitely* my issue [06:26] hmm...pkgbinarymangler always strips out upstream changelogs, right? so i should probably suppress that tag on lintian.uw.o [06:26] broder: yes [06:26] broder: btw, thanks for setting this up! [06:26] no problem! [08:09] good morning [08:35] Can someone please upgrade this patch to 11.10 http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2011/05/24/better-clickpad-support-for-ubuntu-11-04/ [09:29] lool: bonjour, ca va? [09:30] lool: AFAIR you were able to reproduce the udev boot breakage which you resolved by reverting the SOCK_NONBLOCK option, right? [09:31] lool: do you have some time to test https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-November/034386.html ? [10:39] hum, I guess there is a tool that parses debian/changelog to know what the last package revision of a source is [10:39] dpkg-parsechangelog [10:39] thanks cjwatson, my tab completion skill was pretty poor ;) [10:44] SpamapS: w.r.t. cmake and multiarch, take a look at the pyside stack (apiextractor, generatorrunner,shiboken,pyside). But it mostly works thanks to their CMakefiles... [11:27] Could an archive admin please sync bug 882507, thanks. [11:28] Launchpad bug 882507 in puppet (Ubuntu) "Sync puppet 2.7.6-1 (main) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/882507 [11:49] cjwatson: I think I've tracked down why datereleased doesn't get set for Ubuntu. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:52] oh good [11:54] Or not. It should be set. [11:56] cjwatson: Actually, that might it. It seems that +edit will only set .datereleased in some circumstances, but +admin will always set it. Which is making me go O.o [12:09] cjwatson: Do you know if there is there a bug for the datereleased thing? [12:20] 00:29 bryceh: I filed a bug for that date to be changed, too. Hoping that someone would at least set oneiric's date before ignoring the longer term bug of setting it automatically, but no such luck [12:21] 00:31 bug 876345 fwiw [12:21] Launchpad bug 876345 in Launchpad itself "distro series releasedate not automatically set" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876345 [12:21] StevenK: ^- [12:21] Excellent, thank you. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:03] cjwatson: Fixed. https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/distroseries-edit-datereleased/+merge/81730 has the gory details. [13:05] StevenK: excellent, thanks [13:05] cjwatson: I can also prod to get Oneiric fixed if you wish. [13:05] cjwatson: Or you can, I don't mind. [13:06] StevenK: please go ahead [13:22] broder: should be easy to do: copy the existing lintian stuff in config-org.yaml, add some sql to sql/setup.sql and modify the lintian gatherer to insert into the ubuntu table based on 'source' [13:23] the last part might not even be necessary [13:24] 20 [13:24] ERR [13:24] sorry === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [13:51] jelmer: any progress on the bzr/armel build failure? and is anyone working on making bzrtools and bzr-git installable again in precise? I'm happy to help given pointers === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [14:27] cjwatson: after submitting some patches to P-a-s, I discovered that Debian is now looking at dropping most entries there when "Auto-not-for-us" is enough; do we have plans to implement this in Launchpad too? [14:28] lool: I don't know [14:28] lool: but we shouldn't maintain a delta against P-a-s just for the sake of it [14:28] cjwatson: I can drop an email to the lp stakeholders list [14:29] well, is it possible LP already DTRT? [14:29] cjwatson: one of the other bzr devs is looking at the bzr build problem. I'm about to upload bzrtools. [14:29] it's entirely possible, I don't know === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:30] lool: for example, syslinux-themes-ubuntu isn't in P-a-s but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux-themes-ubuntu/2 only built on the architectures listed in the Architecture line [14:30] lool: I think there's nothing to do in LP [14:30] auto-nfu is using the Architecture: list in control? [14:30] I believe so [14:30] cjwatson: awesome, so we can just merge the removals then; thanks [14:30] you used to get a trivial build failure instead [14:30] Laney: yes [14:30] nice [14:30] jelmer: thanks [14:30] jelmer: and bzr-git too? [14:31] cjwatson: do we have some process to update ubuntu's P-a-s? [14:31] lool: JFDI [14:31] do you mean merging from Debian? I do a bzr merge occasionally [14:32] cjwatson: that's what I meant [14:32] just 'bzr merge lp:packages-arch-specific', resolve, commit [14:32] our branch is lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/packages-arch-specific/ubuntu right? [14:32] seems that's the only other one [14:32] yes [14:32] thanks [14:33] cjwatson: sorry, yes - that too. It just needs to be synced from Debian. [14:33] it gets deployed every hour or so I think [14:33] jelmer: OK, you should be able to do that with 'syncpackage -d unstable bzr-git' [14:35] cjwatson: thanks [14:38] Do I need to declare a versioned dependency if I know that a particular release will have the version I need? [14:40] rbasak: not doing so can be a dangerous game [14:41] cjwatson: OK I'll take that as a yes then, thanks :) [14:41] rbasak: sometimes people drop them after an LTS cycle has passed, but personally I would always keep them. What's the exact situation? [14:42] @pilot in [14:42] versioned dependencies are cheap and they help with things you might not have thought of like LTS-to-LTS upgrades, bootstrapping new architectures, etc. === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Precise open for uploads | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | build failures -> http://bit.ly/or6CHJ | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for hardy -> oneiric | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: jdstrand [14:42] cjwatson: I'm backporting a fix for an SRU to Oneiric. The fix requires a particular version of python-django. The previous control file does not specify a required version, but I know that the fix does require a version which we have in Oneiric already, so I was wondering if I should amend the control file [14:42] rbasak: think also about backports. when someone backports this package to a previous release then the depedency is fulfilled but not the version requirement [14:43] rbasak: imagine somebody upgrading from natty to oneiric + updates in one shot [14:43] SRUs shouldn't assume that they are being installed on a system that's already been upgraded [14:44] so if it needs something in particular, then absolutely include the versioned dep === ion_ is now known as ion [14:49] cjwatson: OK will do, thanks. [15:01] http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mysql-5.5/news/20111109T134815Z.html [15:01] woot === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:12] can anyone tell me what extras.ubuntu.com is, and whether i would expect that to exist for precise yet [15:13] apw: it should be empty for precise. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard [15:14] (but yes, probably should exist) [15:14] yes please because then I could install its signatures in apt-setup [15:14] it's a problem if it doesn't exist pre-release [15:14] it cirtainly doesn't exist as we stand [15:15] should i file a bug, or will someone handle it [15:16] slangasek: looks like ia32-libs-multiarch mistakenly depends on gtk2-engines-murrine, which doesn't seem to be multiarched (and forces partial upgrade to precise) [15:17] sforshee: hi, do you know if the alps patch you have made will be merged? [15:17] bigon, the upstream maintainer has accepted the patches, and we'll be using them in the precise kernel [15:18] the 0.10 version of the patches? [15:18] basically, with a few minor (non-functional) updates [15:20] sforshee: thx :) [15:21] sforshee, did those hit 3.2 ? [15:21] apw, no, they're in linux-next now [15:22] sforshee, ok so are you going to send us a pile of those ? [15:22] apw, i sent the pull request yesterday, and ogasawara just applied them to master-next [15:22] sforshee, oh then i'll shut up :) cool, good work [15:27] so do we expect to be able to update via update-manager this early in the cycle? seems to let me use -d and tell me 12.04 is there, but then dies later with "WARNING: Failed to read mirror file" [15:28] apw: it should allow the upgrade at this point, the warning there is harmless [15:32] mvo, ok so after the -d making me be unsupported on oniric i see the normal screen. hit upgrade and it tries to scare me. hit upgade again and it does its normal stuff preparing, then setting new channels, then it errors about the extras.ubuntu.com being missing. (which i also thought was not a big issue) and then close causes it to backout [15:32] so perhaps then its the extras.ubuntu.com not having anything for precise thats fubaring me [15:33] apw: right, its there now, it will take a bit (probably until tomorrow) to get synced, if you want to upgrade now you could simply comment it out in sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list that is) [15:35] mvo, ok confirmed that fixes it [15:36] Laney: are those scripts public? i can't find any reference to them on the udd page [15:36] mvo: can you look at one more merge proposal for software-properties? [15:37] m4n1sh: absolutely! [15:37] sorry, not able to provide the link as I am on EDGE network (tethered), so can't even open launchpad now. [15:39] tjaalton: it's not a mistake; see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-October/034279.html [15:43] m4n1sh: no problem I will followup in the merge proposal :) [15:43] sure [15:43] slangasek: ah ok, seems I missed/forgot that one [15:43] mvo, can you make some minor tweaks if needed. I can't even branch or push on this slow connection [15:46] m4n1sh: ok, when will you be back on a faster one? soon(ish) or will that be a matter of days? (just curious so that I can judge if I should tweak it myself or followup in the proposal) [15:47] broder: yes, http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/collab-qa/ [15:47] mvo, I just shifted house today [15:47] so I hurriedly finished the proposal yesterday [15:47] mvo, not sure about when I get a faster one. Need to call the iSP [15:47] *ISP [15:47] mvo, well you are the maintainer, you can tweak it [15:48] not a problem [15:48] m4n1sh: great, thanks, will do :) [15:48] thanks :) [15:48] hey everyone, which would be the best way to check for the existance of a package? My package depends on either of two packages (activemq | rabbitmq-stomp) and on the postinst I need to check the existance of either to do the proper config, I was thinking about checking for the config dir to exist but not sure if that's the best method, recommendations? [15:48] m4n1sh: the only small tweak is to move it into a function I think [15:49] mvo, I think that is fine. Not something really big or anything that changes the behaviour of the script [15:50] lynxman: the config dir would still be there if one had been removed and the other were installed [15:50] broder: in svn.d.o/svn/collab-qa/udd [15:50] SpamapS: that's why :) [15:51] m4n1sh: yeah [15:51] lynxman: do the two conflict? [15:51] SpamapS: not necessarily, but they could [15:52] lynxman: so it seems that you probably need to configure for them both separately based on the existence of their executables [15:52] lynxman: could you split the setup into two subpackages - one for each - and then have the parent package depend on package-that-configs-activemq | package-that-configs-rabbitmq-stomp? [15:54] broder: that could be an option, but it would break compatibility with the previous versions of the same package [15:54] broder: that's why I'm trying to be just smart enough to solve it out :) [15:54] SpamapS: checking the binaries is a good idea indeed... [15:55] like, if -x rabbitmqctl ; then ... fi ; if -x activemq ; then ... fi [15:55] SpamapS: would you say relative or full paths are the best way for that? [15:56] SpamapS: I tend to do full paths but I know is a bit frowned upon [15:56] lynxman: debian policy says use relative paths in maintainer scripts [15:57] errr [15:57] lynxman: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html#s6.1 [15:57] broder: ah there you go :) [15:57] (last paragraph) [15:57] i know because i noticed there was a lintian tag for it :) [15:57] relative to what? [15:57] are there instructions on building compiz somewhere? [15:57] He's not calling [15:57] checking for existence/executableness [15:58] my -x was just an example [15:58] you *must* do the path for -x [15:58] SpamapS: yeah, doing if -x /usr/bin/activemq or just if -x activemq [15:58] if hash foo >/dev/null 2>&1; then ... [15:58] is the standard incantation [15:58] hash? I've never seen that. [15:58] broder: oh interesting, any examples? [15:58] but that makes sense === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [16:00] lynxman: so if hash rabbitmqctl > /dev/null 2>&a; then [16:00] SpamapS: cool :) [16:03] SpamapS: broder: thank you very much for your answer, I'll use hash then [16:06] $ sh -c 'hash foo' [16:06] sh: 1: hash: foo: not found [16:06] the *right* way to say "is this something i can run" is [16:06] sh -c 'command -v foo >/dev/null' [16:07] sh -c 'command -v foo >/dev/null' && echo yes || echo no [16:07] broder, ^. hash is a bash builtin. not available in posix sh. [16:07] huh? it's totally available [16:07] evan@caron:~$ sh -c 'type hash' [16:07] hash is a shell builtin [16:08] foo on the other hand... === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [16:10] I tend to use 'type', or 'which' in contexts where /usr is available, or on occasion a tiny shell function equivalent to 'which' [16:10] you totally don't need to fork a new shell to use 'command -v', in any event [16:11] broder, yes, you are correct. i am a dolt. [16:11] smoser: hash is in dash [16:11] 'type' (or 'command -v') tells you whether the command exists with varying levels of standards conformance; 'which' tells you whether it exists specifically on $PATH [16:11] smoser: no worries - it's still early for us US folks ;) [16:17] Laney: i couldn't figure out how to checkout the svn repo, but http://paste.ubuntu.com/733216/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/733219/ should be sufficient if i understand this stuff correctly [16:17] it appears to me that type, command -v and hash all search PATH. [16:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/733217/ [16:17] cjwatson, were you stating otherwise ? [16:17] broder: right, and you need an entry in config-org.yaml [16:18] they search PATH but they *also* search builtins [16:18] ah. [16:18] 'which' only searches PATH [16:18] right. [16:18] Laney: first pastebin :) [16:18] oh yeah [16:18] (by design, and because it's an external command) [16:18] svn> svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/collab-qa/udd/ [16:18] right [16:18] svn+ssh://> still don't think i have that setup === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:19] should work without +ssh [16:19] ah, so itdoes [16:20] there's a 'searchpath' function in base-passwd.postinst which I cut down from 'which', and there's osextras.find_in_path in ubiquity if you want a Python implementation, and I have a C one in man-db/lib/pathsearch.c - I've written this several times ;-) [16:30] broder: will deploy it later [16:30] cheers [16:30] cool, no rush from me [16:31] i'll probably end up stealing the script and running it on my lintian lab anyway so i can make the report generation a bit more configurable (e.g. ubuntu-only package report) [16:31] which script? [16:32] the importer [16:32] cjwatson: can you review python-passlib please? [16:32] thought you were mirroring udd [16:33] i am. but for things like the ubuntu-only report, i'm planning to slurp the lintian.log into a database, then filter it appropriately, spit it back out, then run it through the html report generator again [16:35] zul: hm, I think I'm out of time for today (or rather all my remaining time is already committed), sorry, it would be better if somebody else could do it but otherwise I can look tomorrow morning [16:35] cjwatson: ok ill bug someone else then === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:46] silly question, when using sbuild, whats the appropriate way to set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS ? [16:49] SpamapS: looks like you might be able to set $build_environment = {'DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS' => 'stuff' }; in your ~/.sbuildrc? [16:50] ahh, /usr/share/doc/sbuild/examples/example.sbuildrc is quite helpful :) [16:51] pitti: Sorry for the delay, tried udev from your PPA now and it failed to boot [16:51] lool: oh, what happens? [16:52] lool: stuck in initramfs? [16:54] slangasek, i still can't reproduce the addon problem you had yesterday. is it easily reproducible for you (ie, if you uninstall firefox-globalmenu, restart firefox, reinstall firefox-globalmenu and restart again, do you get the extra tab asking you to enable the addon?) [16:55] cjwatson: mmk, Debian publisher has had time to catch up, I'm syncing all the X packages in the libxmu stack now [16:55] chrisccoulson: nothing about having to restart firefox is easy, but I'll check :) [16:55] slangasek, thanks [16:55] slangasek: great === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [17:04] slangasek: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/84784123/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.mysql-5.5_5.5.17-1ubuntu1~ppa0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz .. segfault on the buildds :-/ [17:05] hmm! [17:05] well, it's i386 [17:05] who uses that anyway :) [17:05] only the weak [17:05] pitti: Yes; uploading pictures of the crash [17:06] sorry for the delay, had to solve another ubuntu install not starting weirdly -- unrelated [17:06] slangasek: no such failure on amd64 .. :-P [17:07] * SpamapS builds an i386 precise chroot.. :-P [17:07] pitti: http://ubuntuone.com/5UdVl0S9Nnf7qNqI6TfhH6 http://ubuntuone.com/01ckC0NMdYZb8Y423lMlmf [17:07] slangasek, your upload of popt that now depends on gettext:any seems to confuse the buildd: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/84756245/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.popt_1.16-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [17:08] slangasek, do you know what the fix for that is? [17:08] pitti: apparently, initramfs gives up waiting for root device before it appears, not sure what udev fails to do there, perhaps it thinks all events have been processed when they haven't; should I set some debug flags in the initramfs to check it out? [17:08] mterry: the fix is that the new sbuild will be rolled out tomorrow morning UK time [17:08] slangasek, beautiful :) === ion_ is now known as ion [17:32] jelmer: bzr-git failed to build; I don't know if LP has fixed the bug where the syncer doesn't get mailed about such things === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [17:33] given that they went for recording synced packages separately, I think probably not [17:34] cjwatson: I didn't get any email so I guess not. Thanks for the ping. [17:35] SpamapS: so how did mysql 5.5 wind up with cmake anyway? It seems to have been pleasantly autoconfy in 5.1 [17:39] slangasek: upstream wanted to use the same build tool on windows and *nix [17:39] slangasek: basically all the smart people in the build team left when Sun bought MySQL AB .. ;) [17:40] s/smart/autoconfy people/ [17:40] * SpamapS should really be nicer, they've been quite pleasant when we've reported bugs in the new cmake build. ;) [17:40] [100%] Building CXX object sql/CMakeFiles/sql.dir/sys_vars.cc.o [17:40] and cmake at least has a % done counter.. :) [17:40] heh [17:42] cjwatson: do you remember which packages were mangling the console from underneath X most recently? some Russian support package? [17:43] console-cyrillic is the one you're thinking of I think [17:43] right, thanks [17:43] I hit it with a hammer. bug 597673 [17:43] Launchpad bug 597673 in console-cyrillic (Ubuntu Oneiric) "console-cyrillic changes settings on consoles it doesn't own, causing crashes with plymouth + X" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/597673 [17:43] :) [17:44] bug #887445 has a user reporting the same behavior... no console-cyrillic installed. looking through his package list now [17:44] Launchpad bug 887445 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "I can not login" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887445 === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [17:57] Riddell: hi, have Kubuntu decided yet about its 12.04 LTS status? and whether it will be supported for 3 or 5 years? [17:58] What do I do after a kernel panic in a stable release if I'm a good citizen? [17:58] * YokoZar hasn't had one till now in 7 years of Ubuntu... === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:12] [1:1:157311113007:ERROR:nacl_fork_delegate_linux.cc(78)] Bad NaCl helper startup ack (0 bytes) [18:12] I keep seeing these... [18:12] wtf? [18:14] lol, I automatically read that as "Bad salt helper". [18:15] "Your table salt has failed to fork" does conjure up an interesting image [18:16] I'm teaching general chemistry this semester, I guess it's starting to soak in :-) [18:22] well, chromium has NaCL... [18:22] SpamapS: ^^which version are you running? === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [18:23] ii google-chrome-stable 15.0.874.106-r107270 The web browser from Google [18:23] so just chrome whining about something [18:23] SpamapS: I can't help you if you're running chrome [18:23] we didn't build chromium with NaCL for M15, toolchain issue [18:23] will ignore it for now [18:23] who maintains the ubuntu pastebin? [18:24] having to log in for plaintext is really annoying [18:24] laney: I thought it's ubuntu-website, but I could be wrong [18:27] Laney: Canonical IS. [18:28] do they have anything other than RT? [18:28] Laney: And they have the login-for-plaintext thing set up that way intentionally, so you might have to present an argument. [18:28] Laney: (It's to prevent people using pastebin as a file trading service, as I recall) [18:29] I'm sure; it must have taken some effort. [18:30] It could perhaps generate private links which bypass the logging in requirement [18:30] Laney: How would that help? Then people storing files there would just pass people said private links? [18:31] whereas now they just have to log in? [18:31] infinity: and it also means you can't curl $url | patch -p1 [18:32] which is something one wants to do rathe roften [18:32] Laney: Sure, but requiring a launchpad account is a high enough barrier, I suspect. Either way, wasn't my call. Bug the IS folks. ;) [18:32] (I'd like plain-text-without-login to work too, I'm just pointing out the arguments I've seen against it) [18:33] ... [18:33] Really? We still have packages that build-dep on dbs? [18:33] REALLY?! [18:34] wow [18:34] And not, like, crazy leaf packages. [18:34] newt. [18:34] Pretty core. [18:34] Wow. [18:34] I'm shocked. [18:34] huh, interesting [18:35] * infinity wonders if that's a sign that newt needs to be hijacked in Debian. [18:35] slangasek: I reproduced your firefox upgrade issue, so you're not alone, but chrisccoulson still can't...he's still investigating though [18:35] * infinity promptly forgets about the previous statement. [18:36] micahg, how reproducible is it for you? [18:36] micahg: ok [18:37] chrisccoulson: new profile works, let me try the other one that existed [18:37]