[09:38] <meta-coder> How to update Firefox? Why aren't Firefox updates delivered to earlier Ubuntu releases?
[09:40] <meta-coder> Does the "Firefox Stable Channel Packages" PPA have binaries for Oneiric?
[09:41] <chrisccoulson> meta-coder, we're investigating a problem where our addons might get disabled on upgrade
[09:41] <chrisccoulson> so we're not publishing the update yet
[09:42] <meta-coder> So it is not advisable to update Firefox?
[09:43] <meta-coder> The PPA has latest source. Should I compile it on Oneiric?
[09:46] <meta-coder> What about the daily builds PPA? It has binaries for Oneiric, but I don't think it is a stable build because it is version 10.x.
[09:49] <meta-coder> How about directly compiling from the source at mozilla.com?
[12:06] <cousin_luigi> hello
[12:07] <cousin_luigi> any word about ff8 on oneiric?
[12:39] <scotty^> Can Firefox _please_ be compiled with PGO in Precise - see bug #213708
[12:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 213708 in xulrunner "Please compile Firefox with PGO optimizations" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213708
[12:40] <scotty^> In #ubuntu+1 , gnomefreak said: it is already i just cant remember if it is our nightly builds or if we released it to repos. Please check in #ubuntu-mozillateam, not sure who is up/in there atm
[12:40] <scotty^> Does anyone know the status of this?
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[15:52] <bhearsum> is Launchpad's bug tracker bugzilla based?
[15:52] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: btw, i filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/888134 on that issue i mentioned the other day
[15:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 888134 in xorg "automatic detection of plugged in / removed monitor is too aggressive" [Undecided,New]
[16:35] <micahg> bhearsum: no, launchpad has its own bugs code
[16:35] <bhearsum> ah
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> hi bhearsum
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> sorry, had to pop out for a bit
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> micahg, still no joy with trying to figure out why slangasek's addons got disabled :(
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> i've been looking at it all day, and i just can't reproduce it, or see how it's possible
[16:43] <micahg> okies, well, I'll push 3.6 out in a bit and we'll take it from there
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[16:44] <micahg> chrisccoulson: maybe he has a pref overriden, have you gotten the about:support output from him?
[16:44] <chrisccoulson> i would ask if i thought it might be useful, but the code which marks addons as 3rd party is fairly simple
[16:45] <chrisccoulson> perhaps i could ask him to report a bug
[16:52] <chrisccoulson> g'ah, it's a shame that my intel graphics is so sucky
[16:52] <chrisccoulson> i keep clicking on webgl demos and they run really slow on my laptop
[17:31] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm upgrading another oneiric machine from 7 to 8, we'll see if anything happens
[18:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ooh, I've reproduced, everything is disabled, no idea why
[18:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg, what was the upgrade path? 7.0.1 -> 8.0?
[18:25] <chrisccoulson> and was firefox running during the upgrade?
[18:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes and no
[18:28] <chrisccoulson> micahg, did you get the dialog appear telling you they were disabled?
[18:29] <micahg> yep, the select your add-ons dialog on startup after upgrade
[18:29] <micahg> all marked third party
[18:29] <chrisccoulson> g'ah
[18:29] <micahg> langpacks as well
[18:29] <chrisccoulson> ok, we're screwed :)
[18:29] <micahg> right :)
[18:29] <chrisccoulson> unless i can figure out a way to recreate this
[18:30] <micahg> new profile, firefox not running during upgrade, 7.0.1 -> 8
[18:30] <micahg> sorry, run once before upgrade
[18:31] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, can we turn off this feature entirely? ;)
[18:32] <bhearsum> the disable your add-ons thing?
[18:33] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, yeah, it's sort-of blocking us shipping 8.0 atm :(
[18:33] <bhearsum> i don't think i'm able to make that call :(
[18:33] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i was just joking when i said it really ;)
[18:33] <bhearsum> i would highly recommend talking to Kev Needham about it, though
[18:33] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll ping him in a bit
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> we actually already change extensions.autoDisableScopes to not disable stuff we install in the application directory, but it seems to disable them randomly anyway
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> although i've not been able to recreate it :(
[18:38] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I think the Mozmill guys were able to sidestep this somehow
[18:38]  * m_conley looks for the bug #
[18:39] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, i think they change autoDisableScopes too
[18:41] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: yep:  https://github.com/mozilla/mozbase/commit/dfeb07adfd0883b0a14c3c9497011a06b2009e14
[18:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I think it needs to be 10 or 12, not 11
[18:43] <micahg> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Installing_extensions#Disabling_install_locations
[18:44] <chrisccoulson> micahg, that's out of date
[18:44] <micahg> oh, fun :)
[18:44] <chrisccoulson> or doesn't apply to this
[18:45] <micahg> chrisccoulson: on second launch when I canceled the addons check screen, everything works..., but I guess I ruined the test :)
[18:45] <chrisccoulson> really?
[18:45] <chrisccoulson> that sounds really buggy
[18:45] <micahg> indeed
[18:45] <chrisccoulson> so the extensions carried on working when you dismissed the dialog?
[18:46] <micahg> I killed the program (CTRL+C on the cli), and then relaunched and everything is still happy
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> lol
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> fantastic
[18:46]  * micahg is trying to upgrade another vm to see if it's reproducible
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> micahg, do you have any 3rd party extensions in /usr/share/mozilla/extensions or /usr/lib/mozilla/extensions? (for firefox)
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> ah
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> slangasek does
[18:47] <micahg> as do I
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> he sent me his extensions.sqlite
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> there we go
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> i bet i can recreate it then
[18:47] <micahg> the firefox-lp-improvements extension
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> yeah, slangasek has that too
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> sigh
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> this is what happens when features like this change near the end of the beta cycle ;)
[18:48] <micahg> that should be a bug, 1 third party extension shouldn't disable the world
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> so, basically, the dialog is disabling all foriegn extensions, even those installed in a scope outside of extensions.autoDisableScopes
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> that's why i can't reproduce it
[18:49] <chrisccoulson> i'll take a look in a bit, i need to go and bath my daughter in a moment
[18:49] <micahg> right, well, that should probably be fixed I would think
[18:51] <chrisccoulson> tbh, we might end up having to backport the critical fixes to the current 7.0.1 whilst we get this fixed and reviewed. i'm not sure how much work that would be though
[18:54] <micahg> well, Debian backported some fixes already to 3.5.x, I can probably find the commits in the 8.x branch and use those, but the earliest I can have that ready is Monday I think
[18:54] <micahg> I was supposed to be off today and tomorrow
[18:55] <micahg> I might be able to juggle things a little though
[18:59] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: sorry, did you have anymore questions?i got distracted with some automation problems =\
[19:17] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, i think we have a way to reproduce our problem now
[19:18] <chrisccoulson> will report a bug once i've put my daughter to bed
[19:20] <bhearsum> ah, okay
[19:20] <bhearsum> cc me?
[20:41] <chrisccoulson> right, i'm back for the evening now
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> after i've ordered pizza though!
[21:38] <chrisccoulson> micahg, so, i can see why it doesn't work now
[21:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok
[21:41] <Unit193> micahg: Mind trying something with "List all tabs"?
[21:43] <micahg> Unit193: not at the moment, maybe later
[21:43] <Unit193> browser.allTabs.previews Ture, open 25 tabs in total and check the list, should work fine, then open one more tab (depending on screen res) and it should only now show about 7. FF9
[21:43] <Unit193> Ah, ok
[21:43] <micahg> unless it's a regression from 7->8
[21:44] <Unit193> It's not, I'm using 9
[21:45] <micahg> wow, I see everything in 8 and have ~400 tabs open, no wonder I'm using 6GB RAM
[21:46] <Unit193> Odd.... I've got it showing up on two computers here :/
[21:46] <micahg> well, I'm using 8
[21:46] <micahg> will test in 9 after I get 8 out the door
[21:48] <Unit193> Ok. I can either stick around here or you can ping me in other (I'll also take a SS if it'll help)
[21:51] <micahg> Unit193: will be a bit
[21:52] <Unit193> Sure, what ever works best for you :)
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