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| philipballew | pleia2, are you still on the american membership board? I have a question about a membership benefit | 04:26 |
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| pleia2 | yep, ask away | 04:26 |
| philipballew | I went to sign up to get put on the linkedin group a month ago and I got an email today saying they can not add me because I am not a ubuntu member | 04:27 |
| philipballew | or that they cant find any prof that i am | 04:28 |
| pleia2 | send them a link to your launchpad profile | 04:28 |
| pleia2 | https://launchpad.net/~philipballew/+participation shows that you are a member | 04:29 |
| pleia2 | it's run by community members who have limited time, sometimes there are mistakes | 04:29 |
| philipballew | alright. I am unsure why they would think that. i'll look for the email on the linkedin page | 04:30 |
| pleia2 | I'm not sure how they review potential members, it could just be a mistake too *shrug* | 04:31 |
| philipballew | im not worried. just figured i might investigate it anyway :) | 04:31 |
| BotenAnna | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4FLwjMIEvjw/Trq1W9vAyZI/AAAAAAAAIy4/vCbJGD_eir8/w402/323731_awwwwwwwwwww.jpg squirrel! | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | aww | 17:26 |
| Faqtotum | looks like from europe | 17:28 |
| nhaines | They creep me out. | 17:28 |
| pleia2 | sleeping squirrels creep you out? | 17:29 |
| nhaines | I don't like their eyes. | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | they're closed! | 17:29 |
| nhaines | See? You can't even tell! | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | lol | 17:30 |
| akk | They're watching you anyway ... through their eyelids! | 17:30 |
| nhaines | I want a raspberrypi device! | 17:30 |
| nhaines | $35 for a computer? Count me in. | 17:30 |
| akk | I want one too. A small low-power linux box with GPIO! | 17:31 |
| akk | (and cheap too) | 17:31 |
| nhaines | Nothing like a tiny computer + Debian to make for a happy geek. :) | 17:31 |
| akk | I have a couple of plug computers, but they're a lot more expensive and can't control random hardware. | 17:32 |
| nhaines | I want one, I just don't have any use for one. | 17:32 |
| pleia2 | sf ubuntu hour tonight \o/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1378/detail/ | 17:32 |
| pleia2 | I am not convinced anyone will actually show up, I think we're getting into near-holidays-no-one-shows-up time | 17:33 |
| nhaines | ha | 17:33 |
| nhaines | We'll see about LF ubuntu hour on next Thursday. | 17:33 |
| pleia2 | either way, I get hot chocolate and a change of scenery | 17:33 |
| nhaines | \o/ | 17:33 |
| nhaines | Yeah, that's my motive too. :) | 17:34 |
| nhaines | I'll have to make up the 2012 schedule soon. With it being every other week, I schedule it so it falls out of the holiday weeks. | 17:34 |
| * pleia2 nods | 17:34 | |
| pleia2 | this month was supposed to be debian dinner month too, but I didn't get around to it | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | hopefully doing it next month will encourage folks to come out even though it's december | 17:35 |
| nhaines | It's a bit of a chore, but far more convenient (for attendees) not to have to cancel or anything. | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 17:35 |
| Faqtotum | personally, i think the raspberry pi's ability to run linux is counter-productive | 17:37 |
| akk | Running linux is really handy for setting up a standalone device to run hardware -- you can script it in python or whatever, use cron, use networking etc. | 17:38 |
| akk | Makes it a lot easier to build a system than if you have to collect a zillion third-party arduino libraries, say. | 17:39 |
| nhaines | Definitely. Python's probably the gentlest way to learn programming that won't ruin you like BASIC. | 17:39 |
| akk | Also, to some extent you can test your scripts on a desktop/laptop where you have a lot more debugging tools than you will on the device. | 17:39 |
| Faqtotum | if the point is to put fun back into computer science at a grade-school level, a device that can be useful out-of-the-box "short-circuits" that | 17:40 |
| nhaines | I donno. Fun with computers for me at that age was Oregon Trail and Number Munchers on a green VDU. | 17:42 |
| akk | I'm not entirely clear how they're intended to be used in schools ... I could see arguments both ways. | 17:42 |
| nhaines | And very occasionally Osprey Lake. | 17:42 |
| Faqtotum | you can't learn programming simply by making a collage of other people's code | 17:43 |
| akk | I could see grade school students having a lot of fun making LEDs blink and all that arduino-y stuff ... | 17:43 |
| nhaines | But "Quasar Commander" on my TRS-80 CoCo2 didn't stop me from reading the entire "Introduction to Extended Color Disk BASIC" book that came with the computer. | 17:43 |
| akk | but it's easier to get to that point by typing a few lines of python than with a compiler/downloader IDE. | 17:43 |
| akk | nhaines: Wow, computers that came with actual manuals? :) | 17:44 |
| nhaines | akk: I didn't even know I was learning "to program", I thought I was learning "to use a computer." | 17:44 |
| Faqtotum | in the trs-80 days, there was no distinction | 17:45 |
| nhaines | I realized I was programming, but that was just sort of how you used computers back then. | 17:45 |
| akk | And that would be true of a classroom raspberry pi, probably ... with any luck it wouldn't be loaded with a lot of games and other ready-to-go software | 17:46 |
| Faqtotum | the linux kernel, though? | 17:46 |
| akk | so programming it (or at least echo 6 >/dev/gpio/whatever) would be how you used it | 17:46 |
| akk | What's wrong with the linux kernel? Grade school students aren't going to write their own kernel. | 17:47 |
| Faqtotum | they should | 17:47 |
| akk | Why? | 17:47 |
| Faqtotum | because that's what made learning to program fun | 17:48 |
| MarkDude | akk when you get a chance, I was hoping to tell you sumthin' | 17:49 |
| akk | MarkDude: Sure, tell! :) | 17:50 |
| akk | And funny, I've managed to have fun programming without writing my own kernel | 17:51 |
| akk | (though in HS I would have *loved* to be working on kernels, wish that had been an option then) | 17:51 |
| * MarkDude has long said he was looking forward to the day he saw akk wrong | 17:52 | |
| MarkDude | That day was yesterday | 17:52 |
| akk | No! Not possible! :) | 17:52 |
| akk | (anyway, you've seen me wrong before) | 17:53 |
| MarkDude | The Big Lebowski was such a great movie, they started a cult (religion) around it | 17:53 |
| MarkDude | Well maybe I have seen you wrong (mental block on my part) | 17:53 |
| akk | Ugh, awful movie! Seen it recently? | 17:53 |
| MarkDude | So you are human | 17:53 |
| MarkDude | Its ok | 17:53 |
| MarkDude | YEs, I have seen it a few times | 17:53 |
| * MarkDude already had considered legally changing his mane to Dude before the movie | 17:54 | |
| MarkDude | YEars ago, some of my students from UCSC , told me I WAS the dude | 17:54 |
| Faqtotum | mane? | 17:54 |
| MarkDude | Name | 17:54 |
| MarkDude | Faqtotum, | 17:54 |
| * MarkDude did have long hair back then | 17:55 | |
| MarkDude | Remeber the part they spread their friends ashes? | 17:55 |
| akk | That part, I admit, was funny. | 17:55 |
| akk | Best part of the movie, maybe. | 17:56 |
| MarkDude | When my Grandpa died, we spread his ashes in the Bay | 17:56 |
| * MarkDude kids you not, the wind came up | 17:56 | |
| MarkDude | same effin' thing happened | 17:56 |
| akk | haha ... horrible, but funny too | 17:56 |
| MarkDude | Grandma went to be shocked for a second | 17:56 |
| MarkDude | then lost it laughing | 17:56 |
| MarkDude | My Grandpa was a yacht broker, and was very proud of NEVER falling into bay | 17:57 |
| MarkDude | Grandma said IDK if Im dead, I am not going in the water | 17:57 |
| akk | lol | 17:57 |
| MarkDude | ALL of on boat laughed, MINUS one aunt | 17:57 |
| MarkDude | She was not amused | 17:58 |
| MarkDude | The rest of waited until Gma started laughing | 17:58 |
| MarkDude | Dark humor, but was funny | 17:58 |
| akk | Great story! I think I like your story better than the movie version. | 17:59 |
| MarkDude | lol | 17:59 |
| MarkDude | Fair enough | 17:59 |
| MarkDude | http://dudeism.com/ | 17:59 |
| * MarkDude puts that movie in same category as Napoleon Dynamite | 18:00 | |
| MarkDude | Rumor has it to enjoy it better, some sort of imbibing is helpful | 18:01 |
| akk | I liked ND but found it unmemorable ... when I try to remember it I always end up remembering Wilder Napalm instead. | 18:01 |
| akk | I could see Lebowski working as a stoner movie, yeah. | 18:01 |
| MarkDude | lol | 18:02 |
| MarkDude | Dont forget white Russians work also | 18:02 |
| * MarkDude should see about us getting a bowling alley for party | 18:02 | |
| akk | a geekbowl? | 18:03 |
| MarkDude | Sure | 18:03 |
| MarkDude | We already have a few that are Nihilist | 18:03 |
| akk | I think the last time I bowled was about 10 years ago ... a bunch of autocrossers went, it was a lot of fun. | 18:03 |
| MarkDude | That was good part also, Flea from the Red Hot Chili peppers was one of the Germans | 18:04 |
| akk | Autocrossers get all competitive about everything, even stuff they barely know how to do at all. :) (and yes, that includes me) | 18:04 |
| MarkDude | lol | 18:04 |
| MarkDude | We have confirmed party day at Dojo as Dec 4th - hopefully you can make it akk | 18:05 |
| akk | Cool! Yes, I think I should be in town then. | 18:06 |
| MarkDude | Yay, | 18:11 |
| MarkDude | We will have both beef and veggie hot dogs | 18:11 |
| Faqtotum | party? | 18:12 |
| MarkDude | Yep Faqtotum | 18:13 |
| MarkDude | Sponsored by another project | 18:13 |
| MarkDude | We will have prizes, usb drives, swag etc | 18:14 |
| Faqtotum | ah | 18:14 |
| MarkDude | The grand prize winner gets a Beefy Miracle shirt | 18:14 |
| MarkDude | IF they dont want that, we will order them a Pangolin shirt | 18:14 |
| Faqtotum | be precise about it | 18:14 |
| akk | Ah, sounds like I should put F* (the F-word :) onto a partition on my laptop before then. :) | 18:15 |
| MarkDude | Well the shirt will be ordered after there is a winner | 18:15 |
| MarkDude | Sumthin like that akk | 18:15 |
| MarkDude | No need to install tho | 18:15 |
| * MarkDude really wants a larger FOSS picture here | 18:15 | |
| akk | Yeah, I've been meaning to put it on my multiboot usb stick anyway (assuming I can -- opensuse can't be booted that way :( ) | 18:15 |
| * MarkDude has agreed to carry Ubuntu CDs with him (still needs some current) | 18:16 | |
| MarkDude | And has asked for otheres to carry another Distro of their choice with them also | 18:16 |
| akk | Which one is beefy miracle? 15 or 16? | 18:17 |
| MarkDude | F17 | 18:17 |
| * Faqtotum was kicked from a fedora-centric channel for saying "ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu" in the FC2 days | 18:17 | |
| MarkDude | We still have time for a few more parties | 18:17 |
| akk | oh, right, I mistyped | 18:17 |
| MarkDude | Faqtotum, lets go to that channel now | 18:17 |
| * MarkDude will make sure that does not happen again | 18:17 | |
| Faqtotum | i doubt it's even still here | 18:17 |
| MarkDude | Unless it was #Fedora | 18:18 |
| Faqtotum | i don't remember the channel name | 18:18 |
| Faqtotum | no, it wasn't that one | 18:18 |
| MarkDude | Evilbob is well EVIL | 18:18 |
| MarkDude | Hell they dont stop me from saying Ubuntu | 18:18 |
| * MarkDude recommends Fedora Ambassadors go out of their way to be freindly with local Ubuntu (and other groups) | 18:19 | |
| akk | We're all on the same side! | 18:19 |
| MarkDude | Now if I can get a drawing of a Pangolin, I can make a shirt with it, and the infamous hot dog | 18:20 |
| MarkDude | akk yes we are | 18:20 |
| Faqtotum | a pangolin playing a mandolin | 18:20 |
| MarkDude | Many in Fedora see bug #1 as common goal | 18:20 |
| akk | There are some great pangolin pics (only one drawing I see, though) on google image search. | 18:21 |
| Faqtotum | i think unity's rejection of the basic X11 protocol for displaying a tray icon is a more pressing bug | 18:22 |
| akk | One decent drawing in wikimedia commons, but it's not that cute: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pangolin_ggant_28M_gigantea29.jpg | 18:23 |
| akk | But http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pangolin%27s_tail.jpg (a photo) is way cute. :) | 18:23 |
| MarkDude | awesome pics akk | 18:30 |
| broder | pleia2: i'm totally planning to come to ubuntu hour today, assuming i can escape from work early enough | 18:31 |
| MarkDude | Where is the UH? | 18:31 |
| * MarkDude has flashmob practice tonight | 18:32 | |
| pleia2 | broder: cool | 18:32 |
| pleia2 | MarkDude: the roastery in sf | 18:32 |
| MarkDude | What time? | 18:32 |
| * MarkDude will be doing this later http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuCQCEEAZ9o&feature=youtu.be | 18:32 | |
| * MarkDude will most likely never live the flashmob thing down- the dancemoves are hectic | 18:33 | |
| Faqtotum | i think the drawing is cuter than the photo | 18:39 |
| MarkDude | Well now the question is getting art team help to make a great design | 18:42 |
| Faqtotum | i <3 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Ocelot_01.jpg | 18:50 |
| akk | Gorgeous! | 18:50 |
| nhaines | akk: when you said you needed to put F* (the F word) on your laptop, I thoughty you meant 'fsck'. | 19:01 |
| Faqtotum | most distros already include fsck in the base install | 19:02 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: sure, one reason that it didn't make sense. | 19:30 |
| dragon | 11/11/11 Robot & Device Hackathon -- https://www.wepay.com/tickets/view/18450 | 21:25 |
| dragon | MarkDude: ^ | 21:25 |
| dragon | This is taking place in Redwood city. | 21:25 |
| akk | Ooh, that looks fun! | 21:27 |
| dragon | yep. And I think they have an afterparty. I'm trying to find the details. | 21:28 |
| * akk registers | 21:29 | |
| dragon | it's 3pm to 10pm right outside the hackathon apparently | 21:31 |
| dragon | with food and beer and music! | 21:31 |
| MarkDude | Hmmm | 21:36 |
| akk | Gah, trying to make a multi-boot live usb stick that includes fedora is Not Easy. | 21:38 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Next spring your coming with a vehicle right? | 21:48 |
| bkerensa | "D | 21:48 |
| * bkerensa needs you and finn to take some gadgets with you :P | 21:49 | |
| dragon | rbarot_: check this out: https://www.wepay.com/tickets/view/18450 - and I'll call you soon. Or call me! | 22:10 |
| rbarot_ | checking | 22:13 |
| rbarot_ | done | 22:16 |
| rbarot_ | thanks for letting me know | 22:17 |
| rbarot_ | I will join you | 22:17 |
| dragon | awesome, see you then! | 22:24 |
| === izdubar is now known as MarkDude | ||
| === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond | ||
| MarkDude | What video player allows for easiest way to mirror video? | 23:09 |
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