=== ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-ca to: Welcome to the Ubuntu California Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-california.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Next Meeting: Sunday, November 20th, 7:00pm PST | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com | We have an unlogged channel at #ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic === rbarot__ is now known as rbarot_ [04:26] pleia2, are you still on the american membership board? I have a question about a membership benefit [04:26] yep, ask away [04:27] I went to sign up to get put on the linkedin group a month ago and I got an email today saying they can not add me because I am not a ubuntu member [04:28] or that they cant find any prof that i am [04:28] send them a link to your launchpad profile [04:29] https://launchpad.net/~philipballew/+participation shows that you are a member [04:29] it's run by community members who have limited time, sometimes there are mistakes [04:30] alright. I am unsure why they would think that. i'll look for the email on the linkedin page [04:31] I'm not sure how they review potential members, it could just be a mistake too *shrug* [04:31] im not worried. just figured i might investigate it anyway :) [17:25] https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4FLwjMIEvjw/Trq1W9vAyZI/AAAAAAAAIy4/vCbJGD_eir8/w402/323731_awwwwwwwwwww.jpg squirrel! [17:26] aww [17:28] looks like from europe [17:28] They creep me out. [17:29] sleeping squirrels creep you out? [17:29] I don't like their eyes. [17:29] they're closed! [17:29] See? You can't even tell! [17:30] lol [17:30] They're watching you anyway ... through their eyelids! [17:30] I want a raspberrypi device! [17:30] $35 for a computer? Count me in. [17:31] I want one too. A small low-power linux box with GPIO! [17:31] (and cheap too) [17:31] Nothing like a tiny computer + Debian to make for a happy geek. :) [17:32] I have a couple of plug computers, but they're a lot more expensive and can't control random hardware. [17:32] I want one, I just don't have any use for one. [17:32] sf ubuntu hour tonight \o/ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1378/detail/ [17:33] I am not convinced anyone will actually show up, I think we're getting into near-holidays-no-one-shows-up time [17:33] ha [17:33] We'll see about LF ubuntu hour on next Thursday. [17:33] either way, I get hot chocolate and a change of scenery [17:33] \o/ [17:34] Yeah, that's my motive too. :) [17:34] I'll have to make up the 2012 schedule soon. With it being every other week, I schedule it so it falls out of the holiday weeks. [17:34] * pleia2 nods [17:35] this month was supposed to be debian dinner month too, but I didn't get around to it [17:35] hopefully doing it next month will encourage folks to come out even though it's december [17:35] It's a bit of a chore, but far more convenient (for attendees) not to have to cancel or anything. [17:35] yeah [17:37] personally, i think the raspberry pi's ability to run linux is counter-productive [17:38] Running linux is really handy for setting up a standalone device to run hardware -- you can script it in python or whatever, use cron, use networking etc. [17:39] Makes it a lot easier to build a system than if you have to collect a zillion third-party arduino libraries, say. [17:39] Definitely. Python's probably the gentlest way to learn programming that won't ruin you like BASIC. [17:39] Also, to some extent you can test your scripts on a desktop/laptop where you have a lot more debugging tools than you will on the device. [17:40] if the point is to put fun back into computer science at a grade-school level, a device that can be useful out-of-the-box "short-circuits" that [17:42] I donno. Fun with computers for me at that age was Oregon Trail and Number Munchers on a green VDU. [17:42] I'm not entirely clear how they're intended to be used in schools ... I could see arguments both ways. [17:42] And very occasionally Osprey Lake. [17:43] you can't learn programming simply by making a collage of other people's code [17:43] I could see grade school students having a lot of fun making LEDs blink and all that arduino-y stuff ... [17:43] But "Quasar Commander" on my TRS-80 CoCo2 didn't stop me from reading the entire "Introduction to Extended Color Disk BASIC" book that came with the computer. [17:43] but it's easier to get to that point by typing a few lines of python than with a compiler/downloader IDE. [17:44] nhaines: Wow, computers that came with actual manuals? :) [17:44] akk: I didn't even know I was learning "to program", I thought I was learning "to use a computer." [17:45] in the trs-80 days, there was no distinction [17:45] I realized I was programming, but that was just sort of how you used computers back then. [17:46] And that would be true of a classroom raspberry pi, probably ... with any luck it wouldn't be loaded with a lot of games and other ready-to-go software [17:46] the linux kernel, though? [17:46] so programming it (or at least echo 6 >/dev/gpio/whatever) would be how you used it [17:47] What's wrong with the linux kernel? Grade school students aren't going to write their own kernel. [17:47] they should [17:47] Why? [17:48] because that's what made learning to program fun [17:49] akk when you get a chance, I was hoping to tell you sumthin' [17:50] MarkDude: Sure, tell! :) [17:51] And funny, I've managed to have fun programming without writing my own kernel [17:51] (though in HS I would have *loved* to be working on kernels, wish that had been an option then) [17:52] * MarkDude has long said he was looking forward to the day he saw akk wrong [17:52] That day was yesterday [17:52] No! Not possible! :) [17:53] (anyway, you've seen me wrong before) [17:53] The Big Lebowski was such a great movie, they started a cult (religion) around it [17:53] Well maybe I have seen you wrong (mental block on my part) [17:53] Ugh, awful movie! Seen it recently? [17:53] So you are human [17:53] Its ok [17:53] YEs, I have seen it a few times [17:54] * MarkDude already had considered legally changing his mane to Dude before the movie [17:54] YEars ago, some of my students from UCSC , told me I WAS the dude [17:54] mane? [17:54] Name [17:54] Faqtotum, [17:55] * MarkDude did have long hair back then [17:55] Remeber the part they spread their friends ashes? [17:55] That part, I admit, was funny. [17:56] Best part of the movie, maybe. [17:56] When my Grandpa died, we spread his ashes in the Bay [17:56] * MarkDude kids you not, the wind came up [17:56] same effin' thing happened [17:56] haha ... horrible, but funny too [17:56] Grandma went to be shocked for a second [17:56] then lost it laughing [17:57] My Grandpa was a yacht broker, and was very proud of NEVER falling into bay [17:57] Grandma said IDK if Im dead, I am not going in the water [17:57] lol [17:57] ALL of on boat laughed, MINUS one aunt [17:58] She was not amused [17:58] The rest of waited until Gma started laughing [17:58] Dark humor, but was funny [17:59] Great story! I think I like your story better than the movie version. [17:59] lol [17:59] Fair enough [17:59] http://dudeism.com/ [18:00] * MarkDude puts that movie in same category as Napoleon Dynamite [18:01] Rumor has it to enjoy it better, some sort of imbibing is helpful [18:01] I liked ND but found it unmemorable ... when I try to remember it I always end up remembering Wilder Napalm instead. [18:01] I could see Lebowski working as a stoner movie, yeah. [18:02] lol [18:02] Dont forget white Russians work also [18:02] * MarkDude should see about us getting a bowling alley for party [18:03] a geekbowl? [18:03] Sure [18:03] We already have a few that are Nihilist [18:03] I think the last time I bowled was about 10 years ago ... a bunch of autocrossers went, it was a lot of fun. [18:04] That was good part also, Flea from the Red Hot Chili peppers was one of the Germans [18:04] Autocrossers get all competitive about everything, even stuff they barely know how to do at all. :) (and yes, that includes me) [18:04] lol [18:05] We have confirmed party day at Dojo as Dec 4th - hopefully you can make it akk [18:06] Cool! Yes, I think I should be in town then. [18:11] Yay, [18:11] We will have both beef and veggie hot dogs [18:12] party? [18:13] Yep Faqtotum [18:13] Sponsored by another project [18:14] We will have prizes, usb drives, swag etc [18:14] ah [18:14] The grand prize winner gets a Beefy Miracle shirt [18:14] IF they dont want that, we will order them a Pangolin shirt [18:14] be precise about it [18:15] Ah, sounds like I should put F* (the F-word :) onto a partition on my laptop before then. :) [18:15] Well the shirt will be ordered after there is a winner [18:15] Sumthin like that akk [18:15] No need to install tho [18:15] * MarkDude really wants a larger FOSS picture here [18:15] Yeah, I've been meaning to put it on my multiboot usb stick anyway (assuming I can -- opensuse can't be booted that way :( ) [18:16] * MarkDude has agreed to carry Ubuntu CDs with him (still needs some current) [18:16] And has asked for otheres to carry another Distro of their choice with them also [18:17] Which one is beefy miracle? 15 or 16? [18:17] F17 [18:17] * Faqtotum was kicked from a fedora-centric channel for saying "ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu" in the FC2 days [18:17] We still have time for a few more parties [18:17] oh, right, I mistyped [18:17] Faqtotum, lets go to that channel now [18:17] * MarkDude will make sure that does not happen again [18:17] i doubt it's even still here [18:18] Unless it was #Fedora [18:18] i don't remember the channel name [18:18] no, it wasn't that one [18:18] Evilbob is well EVIL [18:18] Hell they dont stop me from saying Ubuntu [18:19] * MarkDude recommends Fedora Ambassadors go out of their way to be freindly with local Ubuntu (and other groups) [18:19] We're all on the same side! [18:20] Now if I can get a drawing of a Pangolin, I can make a shirt with it, and the infamous hot dog [18:20] akk yes we are [18:20] a pangolin playing a mandolin [18:20] Many in Fedora see bug #1 as common goal [18:21] There are some great pangolin pics (only one drawing I see, though) on google image search. [18:22] i think unity's rejection of the basic X11 protocol for displaying a tray icon is a more pressing bug [18:23] One decent drawing in wikimedia commons, but it's not that cute: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pangolin_ggant_28M_gigantea29.jpg [18:23] But http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pangolin%27s_tail.jpg (a photo) is way cute. :) [18:30] awesome pics akk [18:31] pleia2: i'm totally planning to come to ubuntu hour today, assuming i can escape from work early enough [18:31] Where is the UH? [18:32] * MarkDude has flashmob practice tonight [18:32] broder: cool [18:32] MarkDude: the roastery in sf [18:32] What time? [18:32] * MarkDude will be doing this later http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuCQCEEAZ9o&feature=youtu.be [18:33] * MarkDude will most likely never live the flashmob thing down- the dancemoves are hectic [18:39] i think the drawing is cuter than the photo [18:42] Well now the question is getting art team help to make a great design [18:50] i <3 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Ocelot_01.jpg [18:50] Gorgeous! [19:01] akk: when you said you needed to put F* (the F word) on your laptop, I thoughty you meant 'fsck'. [19:02] most distros already include fsck in the base install [19:30] Faqtotum: sure, one reason that it didn't make sense. [21:25] 11/11/11 Robot & Device Hackathon -- https://www.wepay.com/tickets/view/18450 [21:25] MarkDude: ^ [21:25] This is taking place in Redwood city. [21:27] Ooh, that looks fun! [21:28] yep. And I think they have an afterparty. I'm trying to find the details. [21:29] * akk registers [21:31] it's 3pm to 10pm right outside the hackathon apparently [21:31] with food and beer and music! [21:36] Hmmm [21:38] Gah, trying to make a multi-boot live usb stick that includes fedora is Not Easy. [21:48] MarkDude: Next spring your coming with a vehicle right? [21:48] "D [21:49] * bkerensa needs you and finn to take some gadgets with you :P [22:10] rbarot_: check this out: https://www.wepay.com/tickets/view/18450 - and I'll call you soon. Or call me! [22:13] checking [22:16] done [22:17] thanks for letting me know [22:17] I will join you [22:24] awesome, see you then! === izdubar is now known as MarkDude === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [23:09] What video player allows for easiest way to mirror video?