| snap-l | Yeah, it wasn't good | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h | snap-l: http://vagrantup.com/docs/base_boxes.html | 00:13 |
| rick_h | I was checking that out today debating on something like a bookie box | 00:13 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK. | 00:16 |
| smoser | rick_h, i'd rather you waste time using feeding ubuntu images via cloud-init | 00:17 |
| snap-l | hahaha | 00:17 |
| rick_h | yea, I wanted to chat with you about alternatives for this | 00:18 |
| rick_h | because I'll want something like this for LP so I can run/dev on LTS but run my laptop at latest | 00:18 |
| smoser | LP is chasing juju for obvious reasons, i believe. | 00:18 |
| rick_h | but want something that's pretty quick/easy, offline | 00:18 |
| smoser | but juju sits atop cloud-init | 00:18 |
| rick_h | yea, I looked at it, but didn't want to setup a whole OpenStack setup on the laptop if I didn't have to | 00:19 |
| smoser | but my thoughts is just inserting stuff for cloud-init to run on a cdrom, then start the kvm. cloud-init takes over, and does whatever. | 00:19 |
| smoser | juju working on using lxc for that. | 00:19 |
| rick_h | yea, duplicating the setup/communication that vagrant has built into it | 00:19 |
| smoser | but that is quite reasonable as an objection. even with lxc, it is heavy. | 00:19 |
| rick_h | why I was hoping for vagrant + kvm, but no go yet | 00:19 |
| smoser | chasing vagrant there, i'd think i should make an effort to get them to use our images | 00:20 |
| smoser | and to seed them with cloud-init | 00:20 |
| rick_h | you create the puppet manifests directory and it auto mounts it and runs it for you when you start the VBox VM | 00:20 |
| smoser | (*they'd only have to seed that one key and nothing else, really) | 00:20 |
| rick_h | nice thing is a reload command restarts the VM, and reruns the puppet stuff, but non-destructive | 00:20 |
| rick_h | http://www.vagrantbox.es/ | 00:21 |
| rick_h | cool to have supported Ubuntu images | 00:21 |
| rick_h | you can define in your Vagrant config where ot get the image from to start with | 00:21 |
| smoser | yeah, and them using them gives credit to the images, and makes them not have to worry about building/.maintaining images. | 00:21 |
| rick_h | and hten it caches it locally for all new vagrant boxes you create | 00:21 |
| smoser | yeah. | 00:21 |
| smoser | it is pretty neat, really. | 00:21 |
| smoser | but not juju cool | 00:22 |
| smoser | :) | 00:22 |
| rick_h | yea, I'm too early, want half of one and half of the other | 00:22 |
| rick_h | but at least learning puppet in between, so started hacking at that today | 00:22 |
| rick_h | finally got hte kick to use it | 00:22 |
| smoser | yeah. they have stuff for setting up machines in EC2 for LP | 00:22 |
| smoser | stuff basically with the same effect as vagrant+puppet | 00:22 |
| rick_h | snap-l: did you help with this? | 00:25 |
| rick_h | what topics do you have? | 00:25 |
| rick_h | oh good grief | 00:42 |
| rick_h | ummmm, wow | 00:42 |
| * waldo323 jumps out of the nearest window | 00:43 | |
| * rick_h choses another window to jump from...I want the feel of glass on my face as I plummet | 00:43 | |
| * waldo323 shakes head | 00:44 | |
| waldo323 | from bad to worse | 00:44 |
| rick_h | this meeting is costing me $50 in babysitting...I PAID for this lol | 00:46 |
| Wolfger | uh-oh... sounds like MUG is not going well? | 00:51 |
| rick_h | it's an interesting experiment | 00:51 |
| waldo323 | it is going better now | 00:52 |
| Wolfger | now that you've jumped out the window? | 00:52 |
| Wolfger | could be worse... you could be dist-upgrading from natty to oneiric... | 00:53 |
| Wolfger | ...on a spotty hotel wifi.... over a spotty linux wifi driver | 00:53 |
| waldo323 | the window didn't open and the topic changed | 00:53 |
| Blazeix | somehow our topics keep converging to chinese netbooks | 00:54 |
| Wolfger | oooh... Linux kernel 3.0? | 00:54 |
| Wolfger | I'm excited and frightened | 00:54 |
| Wolfger | but mainly I'd like to know why my FF javascript isn't working | 00:55 |
| Blazeix | god damn it | 01:00 |
| waldo323 | he is on their pay | 01:01 |
| waldo323 | or just bought a lot of their stock | 01:01 |
| rick_h | dammit! STOP WORD! | 01:11 |
| Blazeix | agreed | 01:11 |
| Blazeix | I need some of those boost headphones right about now | 01:12 |
| Blazeix | s/boost/beats/ | 01:13 |
| rick_h | lol | 01:14 |
| rick_h | so lesson today...it all comes down to software...start hacking | 01:15 |
| waldo323 | co-worker asked how much i'd charge to put liunx on 2 of his machines | 01:17 |
| Blazeix | what did you say? | 01:18 |
| waldo323 | $50 | 01:19 |
| waldo323 | :) | 01:19 |
| Blazeix | oh, btw, these two computers have broadcom wireless, ati graphics, and realtek audio. | 01:21 |
| Blazeix | charge hourly :) | 01:21 |
| rick_h | because they have pie | 01:22 |
| rick_h | that makes or breaks a community | 01:22 |
| waldo323 | and now we'll know whats up | 01:25 |
| snap-l | pie. :) | 01:29 |
| snap-l | Evening | 03:49 |
| rick_h | party | 03:53 |
| snap-l | Dude, I am so sorry they goofed up your meal | 03:53 |
| rick_h | bah, it happens | 03:54 |
| _stink_ | ruh roh | 03:54 |
| rick_h | I got food, and got it for free | 03:54 |
| rick_h | so coolio | 03:54 |
| snap-l | Well, what was the icing on the cake was they added it to the tip for Will to pay. | 03:55 |
| snap-l | so that had to get sorted. | 03:55 |
| rick_h | they did what? | 03:55 |
| rick_h | oh crap, sorry I bailed early. I didn't realize that | 03:55 |
| snap-l | No worries | 03:55 |
| rick_h | I just wanted to get home before the wife hit bed | 03:55 |
| snap-l | it got sorted, so all good | 03:55 |
| snap-l | Yeah, no worries | 03:56 |
| rick_h | ok, well let me know what I need to do to square | 03:56 |
| snap-l | Nothing. It's square. | 03:56 |
| rick_h | heh, no more red lobster without Jim | 03:57 |
| rick_h | doesn't go right | 03:57 |
| snap-l | No, not at all | 03:57 |
| snap-l | http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920020875.do#PowerReview <- wow | 03:58 |
| snap-l | consensus is this book is crap | 03:58 |
| rick_h | yea, I skipped that one today | 03:58 |
| rick_h | saw something "50 pages" | 03:59 |
| rick_h | I mean, that's barely the docs maybe | 03:59 |
| snap-l | Wel, apparently the docs are more comprehensive than that book | 04:00 |
| rick_h | yea, I got pro puppet and the puppet cookbook today | 04:01 |
| snap-l | Is that Packt? | 04:02 |
| rick_h | apress and packt | 04:03 |
| === Blazeix_ is now known as Blazeix | ||
| snap-l | G'morning | 12:32 |
| snap-l | Is it just me, or is Google's bookmark sync a little flaky? | 12:36 |
| Wolfger | morning | 12:40 |
| Wolfger | I dunno. I haven't really paid attention to Google's (Chrome?) bookmark sync. | 12:40 |
| Wolfger | ...and if you're not talking about Chrome, I really have no idea | 12:41 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm talking chrome | 12:41 |
| Wolfger | but so far as I can tell Chrome's works fine. I've just never run a fine tooth comb over it | 12:41 |
| Wolfger | interesting. The current woot-off deal is a dual-boot tablet. | 12:43 |
| Wolfger | I don't think I've ever seen anything sold as dual-boot before | 12:44 |
| brousch | i haven't seen a win7 tablet without a keyboard | 12:44 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: dual-boot between what? | 12:44 |
| Wolfger | win 7 and android 2.2 | 12:45 |
| snap-l | That's pretty interesting | 12:49 |
| rick_h | we had a dual boot toshiba tablet at work | 12:58 |
| rick_h | used it to run survey software in windows and experiment with some android view of things | 12:58 |
| snap-l | Reminder: CHC is tonight! | 13:26 |
| snap-l | 8pm at the Royal Oak Caribou on Woodward. | 13:26 |
| snap-l | Be there, or live with regret. | 13:26 |
| brousch | Has anyone looked into this? http://republicwireless.com/ | 13:38 |
| snap-l | No. Looks like a Metro PCS competitor. | 13:44 |
| snap-l | Oh, even better, it's Wifi | 13:44 |
| snap-l | I have a bit of a problem with these solutions | 13:50 |
| snap-l | Unless you cary around your own wifi network, you're essentially "riding the rails" ahd hoping for charity. | 13:51 |
| brousch | it uses sprint when there's no wifi | 13:51 |
| snap-l | So you're paying for a brick, then. ;) | 13:51 |
| snap-l | The only problem it seems to solve well is the "i have shit signal at home" problem. | 13:54 |
| brousch | $19/mo | 13:54 |
| brousch | that solves about 60 problems for me | 13:55 |
| snap-l | Is connectivity one of those problems? Because it seems to solve that nicely. ;) | 13:55 |
| brousch | you're really hating on sprint | 13:56 |
| brousch | my biggest concern is with maps and navigation | 13:56 |
| snap-l | I'm hating on the piggybacking on wifi that isn't yours. | 13:56 |
| brousch | that's when i'm away from wifi and downloading critical stuff | 13:57 |
| snap-l | If we had wimax, I'd say this would be perfect. | 13:57 |
| brousch | but non-wifi data is limited to 300MB/mo | 13:58 |
| snap-l | but once you get out on the highway, I'm pretty sure Linksys isn't going to help you. | 13:58 |
| brousch | with wimax that's like 10 seconds of data | 13:58 |
| brousch | i suppose an offline map app would work | 13:58 |
| brousch | or dedicated gps | 13:59 |
| snap-l | This is awesoe. Apparently Macomb's "Angel" system got bought by Blackboard | 14:00 |
| snap-l | and Blackboard isn't willing / able to give Macomb what they wanted | 14:00 |
| snap-l | so now they're looking for alternatives. | 14:00 |
| brousch | ok, ok. how about a verizon mifi for those times when sprint sucks? | 14:16 |
| brousch | that's like $30/mo | 14:17 |
| snap-l | And you're right back to $49 a month. :) | 14:20 |
| snap-l | but I will say, if it's just for data only, that's not a bad deal | 14:20 |
| brousch | i pay $175/mo for our 2 smart phones on verizon | 14:21 |
| snap-l | Oh God. | 14:21 |
| brousch | so $20+$20+$30 saves a lot | 14:21 |
| brousch | how do you pay $49? | 14:21 |
| snap-l | The one thing that bothers me is how well does it switch networks. | 14:21 |
| snap-l | 19 + 30 = 49 a month for data / phone | 14:22 |
| snap-l | And JoDee's phone is decidedly more than $49 | 14:22 |
| brousch | what provider has $19/mo? | 14:23 |
| snap-l | The one you showed me? | 14:23 |
| snap-l | republic wireless | 14:23 |
| brousch | oh, i thought you were saying you pay that now | 14:24 |
| snap-l | I was adding up the cost of the $19 a month plan with the $30 a month mifi | 14:24 |
| snap-l | Oh hell no | 14:24 |
| brousch | for us, the mifi would be very occasional use | 14:24 |
| brousch | basically just when visiting the boondocks | 14:25 |
| brousch | i think this could work | 14:25 |
| brousch | damn. verizon is $50/mo for 5GB now | 14:29 |
| snap-l | Yeah, they're not cheap | 14:32 |
| brousch | att is the same price | 14:33 |
| brousch | i need a pay as you go mifi | 14:34 |
| snap-l | time to make the donuts. | 14:52 |
| snap-l | God, I forgot how bad Dream Theater's lyrics got on Black Clouds and Silver Linings. | 15:12 |
| snap-l | http://lyrics.wikia.com/Dream_Theater:A_Nightmare_To_Remember | 15:13 |
| snap-l | And now on to Porcuppine Tree: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO3GQvye2bQ | 15:15 |
| Wolfger | Black Sabbath reunion tour? 0_o | 15:35 |
| brousch | Wolfger: are you trying to turn me on? | 15:38 |
| brousch | black sabbath is my rush | 15:38 |
| Wolfger | according to BoingBoing they are going to announce it officially on 11/11/11 | 15:39 |
| snap-l | I’m hiring! Certified ScrumMaster in Troy, MI with 8 years of experience. maustin@ciber.com | 15:41 |
| snap-l | 8 years of Scrummastery? | 15:41 |
| snap-l | man, they've been hinting at a BS reunion for months now | 15:42 |
| snap-l | I'm glad they're finally consummating the foreplay | 15:42 |
| snap-l | I just hope Sharon Osbourne doesn't cock-block the reunion | 15:42 |
| snap-l | she seems like the loose-cannon in the Ozzy-camp | 15:42 |
| brousch | sharon ono? | 15:44 |
| snap-l | Yes. | 15:44 |
| snap-l | God, today is shaping up to be meeting day | 15:46 |
| snap-l | 11am web conference call, 1pm conference call for the 4pm conference call | 15:46 |
| * snap-l searches for the Calgon to take him away. | 15:46 | |
| snap-l | And they have the most milquetoast saxophone music I think I've ever heard this side of Kenny G | 15:53 |
| snap-l | and it's on repeat. | 15:53 |
| Wolfger | Black Sabbath does??? | 15:55 |
| Wolfger | oh, conf call hold music | 15:55 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 15:55 |
| Wolfger | it was an interesting mental image for a couple seconds, though | 15:56 |
| snap-l | whatever provides flotation for your proverbial boat | 15:56 |
| Wolfger | BS and Kenny G kickin' it mellow | 15:57 |
| snap-l | Generals gather in the masses do de doodle de doo | 15:57 |
| snap-l | Just like witches at black masses de doodle de doo de dooo | 15:58 |
| * Wolfger joins snap-l in conf call hold music hell | 16:00 | |
| Wolfger | though this is guitar music here | 16:00 |
| snap-l | Wonder if they're any good. ;) | 16:01 |
| snap-l | Well, then they went to 30's era Jazz. | 16:04 |
| snap-l | big band | 16:04 |
| snap-l | They seriously have questions delivered via e-mail printed out | 16:33 |
| Wolfger | wtf? | 16:33 |
| snap-l | http://www.jwz.org/photos/2011-11-05-computerhistory/120.html <- This is my background. P) | 16:40 |
| snap-l | For being a library, archive.org has the worst metadata tagging of their files | 16:48 |
| snap-l | Jesus, this is like buzzword bingo | 16:57 |
| dzho | not that this will help, as such, but you might be interested in http://publicdomainreview.org/ | 17:03 |
| rick_h | wtf, now chrome won't start for me | 17:03 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Check to see if Chrome is still running | 17:04 |
| snap-l | I've had it wedge from time to time | 17:04 |
| rick_h | no, I get some gtk error that the screen size isn't > 0 | 17:04 |
| snap-l | On your external? | 17:04 |
| rick_h | which of course google's up nothing | 17:04 |
| rick_h | well trying to run it on my main | 17:04 |
| rick_h | but have the external plugged in | 17:04 |
| rick_h | but this just worked monday | 17:04 |
| rick_h | so giant wtf | 17:04 |
| rick_h | there we go, did an upgrade and it had an update. | 17:05 |
| rick_h | still get the error,but it's launching | 17:05 |
| rick_h | lol, but can't get it to launch on my main display | 17:05 |
| rick_h | there we go, nvm all is well again | 17:05 |
| Wolfger | brousch: Grand Rapids is always so classy when it appears in the Detroit Newspapers... http://www.freep.com/article/20111109/NEWS06/111109012/Fleeing-suspect-found-Michigan-leaf-pile | 17:07 |
| brousch | Wolfger: oh come on, hastings is as much grand rapids as ypsi is detroit | 17:31 |
| Wolfger | The article mentions Grand Rapids twice before saying the event actually took place in Hastings... ;-) | 17:35 |
| Wolfger | and anybody within 100 miles of Detroit tends to claim they are "from Detroit" :-p | 17:35 |
| Wolfger | and yeah, I've been to Hastings. It's not Grand Rapids at all | 17:36 |
| brousch | anything meth related we call it kalamazoo | 17:39 |
| brousch | dayam http://hothardware.com/News/Nvidia-Asus-Unwrap-Transformer-Prime/ | 17:40 |
| rick_h | yea, pretty | 17:43 |
| brousch | android dev is becoming more attractive to me as this sexy hardware comes out | 17:48 |
| rick_h | heh | 17:48 |
| brousch | time to re-bite the java bullet? | 17:49 |
| rick_h | have fun with that :P | 17:49 |
| rick_h | web ftw! | 17:49 |
| rick_h | I mean if you've got a killer android app that you only want android users to use and you need native api stuff then have at it | 17:49 |
| brousch | web isn't much good when you're offline or need access to native fun stuff like | 17:49 |
| rick_h | web is fine for offline :P | 17:49 |
| brousch | if you dump all your crap offline when they were online i guess | 17:53 |
| rick_h | they need to be online to install anyway | 17:53 |
| brousch | i've heard nothing but pain from people trying to do things with offline html5 though | 17:53 |
| rick_h | it's gotten better | 17:53 |
| rick_h | and if you do offline web is less painful than doing android + objective C + BB + desktop anyway | 17:54 |
| brousch | development pain, refreshing pain for people who were offline between releases | 17:54 |
| brousch | bah, screw iphone and BB | 17:54 |
| brousch | wtf is a desktop? | 17:54 |
| rick_h | lol | 17:54 |
| brousch | BB really? | 17:54 |
| rick_h | haven't you heard, $$ there | 17:55 |
| brousch | from companies locked into BB hell desperate for modern apps? | 17:55 |
| brousch | actually at grdevday they said BB is dead app-wise | 17:55 |
| brousch | average BB user has 6 apps installed | 17:56 |
| rick_h | yea, but there was an article that some company made their app on BB and suddenly sales went $$ | 17:56 |
| rick_h | because they're more willing to pay for things and higher prices | 17:56 |
| rick_h | I'll have to find the link later | 17:56 |
| brousch | desperate for any little nugget you will offer them | 17:56 |
| brousch | "i will pay $25 for a facebook app instead of upgrading my phone!" | 17:57 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Depends on the app | 18:00 |
| rick_h | yea, sorry. Wasn't really serious | 18:00 |
| rick_h | was just more an off the cuff reference to recent news | 18:00 |
| rick_h | I'm not caring about BB any more than anyone else | 18:00 |
| brousch | until canonical wants you to write a BB launchpad app | 18:01 |
| snap-l | hah | 18:01 |
| brousch | because you've hyped tits potential so much | 18:02 |
| brousch | its | 18:02 |
| Blazeix | like anyone will believe that's a typo. | 18:02 |
| snap-l | Apps in BB can command higher prices because 1) there's no competition, and 2) even people in hell want ice water. | 18:02 |
| brousch | Blazeix: i know. now that i'm a misogynist all of my typos are suspect | 18:03 |
| === jjesse__ is now known as jjesse | ||
| Wolfger | yep | 18:29 |
| snap-l | Some days I wish I was a pyromaniac. | 18:36 |
| greg-g | you aren't? | 18:36 |
| snap-l | Not really | 18:36 |
| snap-l | Though my warm and somewhat flammable exterior might give you that impression | 18:36 |
| greg-g | haha | 18:36 |
| Wolfger | I loved that Def Leppard album... | 18:37 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it was a pretty good album. | 18:37 |
| snap-l | That and Hysteria were when Def Leppard were at the height of their powers. | 18:37 |
| Wolfger | now did they burn out, or fade away? | 18:37 |
| snap-l | And the only member they lost in the interim was Rick Allen's arm. ;) | 18:38 |
| * snap-l smacks himself for poor taste | 18:38 | |
| Wolfger | I chuckled... | 18:39 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evSK1fwo2xI | 20:15 |
| snap-l | turn it up loud | 20:15 |
| ColonelPanic001 | NO | 20:18 |
| rick_h | turn it up! http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10966090&q=hi&newref=1 | 20:22 |
| snap-l | Oh sheesh | 20:22 |
| rick_h | lol | 20:23 |
| snap-l | I <3 this conference call | 21:15 |
| snap-l | we're agreeing that we don't have a plan | 21:15 |
| _stink_ | move to table the resolution | 21:15 |
| rick_h | lol | 21:16 |
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