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InHisNameBorat is a big tweeter or sumthin' ?00:29
GeekyAdamhi all01:40
GeekyAdambeen a little while since ive been back, server was a little fritzy and i was a little lazy :/01:41
MutantTurkeyhey01:41
GeekyAdamso i installed 10.04 on an older laptop. i decided to upgrade to 11.10. 4 hours later, its running slower than it did with 10.04.01:44
MutantTurkeyaye.01:47
GeekyAdamhavent tried gnome3 yet, someone give me a subjective gnome2 vs gnome3 vs unity as far as speed goes on a lower end CPU01:51
GeekyAdamim assuming its gnome2 > gnome3 > unity?01:52
MutantTurkeytry tde01:53
MutantTurkeyI hear its nifty01:53
* MutantTurkey selflessly selling my soul01:53
rmg51gnome3 might not work on an older computer02:14
rmg51there is gnome classic02:14
MutantTurkeygnome2 or kde3 is what I say. or xfce02:14
MutantTurkeyxfce ~ gnome202:15
rmg51classic sucks though02:15
MutantTurkeygnome classic?02:15
rmg51I went with xfce02:15
rmg51looks like gnome2 but without the ability to customize it02:17
rmg51no right click on the panels02:18
rmg51gnome3 doesn't run very well on my two older laptops02:19
MutantTurkeyxfce should actually run faster than gnome202:20
rmg51basically unusable02:21
JonathanDMorning.10:14
rmg51morning JonathanD10:14
JonathanDHey rmg5110:15
JonathanDMy games are still downloading :/10:16
waltmangames?12:25
JonathanDgames.12:25
JonathanDwaltman: I'm building my gaming machine.12:25
JonathanDOr my holdover until I have a real gaming machine gaming machine.12:26
waltmanBut why are you downloading them?12:32
InHisNamemorning12:35
JonathanDwaltman: so I can play them.12:47
JonathanDThe machine is (mostly) functional.12:47
JonathanDThey're on steam.12:48
InHisNameizzat a steam punk machine ?12:57
JonathanDyes.12:58
teddy-dbearmorning13:10
ChinnoDogmeh, morning13:30
GeekyAdamjust did my first remote-server ssh tunnel so i could scp from an internal computer on a remote network19:14
GeekyAdamcool stuff19:14
EvilResistance*yawn*19:15
EvilResistancewhat day is this?19:15
EvilResistance:P19:15
* EvilResistance has been playing Call fo Duty MW3 for the longest time :p19:15
GeekyAdamhey now. we all enjoy our first times...19:15
GeekyAdamBF3 > MW319:15
GeekyAdamyeah, i said it19:15
EvilResistanceGeekyAdam:  i cant run BF319:16
EvilResistancefscking hardware19:16
EvilResistancebut MW3 can run well strangely enough19:17
GeekyAdamyeah i dont have it yet either19:17
GeekyAdamstill playing WoW on an Athlon FX 64 >.<19:17
* EvilResistance owns MW3 because he preordered it a while ago xD19:17
EvilResistancei preordered it on Steam (for the PC) to get the extra copy of COD419:18
EvilResistance:P19:18
GeekyAdamold mobo cant handle decent multi-core CPUs so need to upgrade mobo, mem, cpu, and prob vid card. basically whole new pc.19:18
* EvilResistance lost his COD4 CD, so...19:18
GeekyAdamnice19:18
EvilResistanceyeah i'm going to need to overhaul my desktop19:18
EvilResistancereplace basically everything...19:18
EvilResistancemobo,  memory, CPU, Video Card...19:18
GeekyAdamgiving current triple monitor setup to gf when we move to new apt so she can photoshop and autodesk with it19:19
EvilResistancei'm going to see if i cant overhaul the thing and put in dual video cards19:19
EvilResistanceand a liquid cooling system19:19
EvilResistancecool19:19
GeekyAdamliquid cooling is sexy but scary to me19:19
EvilResistanceyeah it has disadvantages19:19
EvilResistancebut if you know what you're doing it can be epic19:19
GeekyAdamalso, i should note, giving of the pc to the gf also means she wont use my gaming machine19:19
EvilResistancefwiw, its more effective than standard air cooling19:20
EvilResistancelol19:20
EvilResistanceGeekyAdam:  indeed19:20
EvilResistanceGeekyAdam:  i have 2 desktops, a laptop, a fscking heavy server...19:20
GeekyAdamme: "i need to WoW" gf: "im writing a paper for class, use your laptop"19:20
EvilResistanceone desktop is my "Almighty game system" (or will be)19:20
EvilResistance(its the custom build)19:20
EvilResistancethe other desktop is the crappy "I dont give a damn about you" system :P19:20
EvilResistancethe server...19:20
EvilResistancewell, its a fscking server :P19:20
GeekyAdamha19:21
* EvilResistance has it inside a room with its own dedicated cooling system and triple locked entry19:21
EvilResistanceas well as its own dedicated wire hookup :P19:21
EvilResistancefwiw..19:21
EvilResistancei could theoretically set up a mini internet hub19:22
EvilResistance:P19:22
EvilResistancedump an apt mirror on there... a keyserver...19:22
EvilResistance5000 ZNCs...19:22
EvilResistancean ircd...19:22
EvilResistanceeverything would still function xD19:22
GeekyAdami have 1 desktop (gaming PC, trip monitors), 1 main laptop (decent thinkpad T61, core2duo, used for DJing with VirtualDJ and decent WoWing), couple older laptops laying around for easy stuff (www, ssh, etc), server (older Dell box, ubuntu 10.04 server)19:22
EvilResistanceyeah this laptop i'm on is my development system19:22
EvilResistancepartly due to the multiple VMs i have of idfferent OSes19:23
EvilResistanceso i can dev. in .NET stuff, PHP, Debian packaging, RHEL shit, etc.19:23
EvilResistanceits primary OS is Ubuntu Natty + KDE19:23
GeekyAdamive been toying with the idea of [once the new gaming pc is built] making the desktop ubuntu with a Win7 VM as one desktop. WoW runs decently in Wine...19:24
GeekyAdamnatty with KDE? yeesh :p19:24
EvilResistancei got fed up with Unity :P19:25
GeekyAdam10.04 + gnome2 is my fav19:25
GeekyAdamalthough the new Fedora screenshots have me curious...19:25
EvilResistancei got tired of the outdatedness of lucid :PP19:25
* EvilResistance also successfully got something backported from Precise all the way back to Natty19:26
EvilResistance:P19:26
GeekyAdamyeah ive noticed that lately honestly, ive been adding more and more ppas just to update software correctly19:26
GeekyAdamfor instance firefox19:26
GeekyAdami was still on 2.3, had to add the ppa just to get up to 719:26
GeekyAdamand now 8s out...19:27
GeekyAdamis it just me or is Mozilla firing off new Firefox updates relentlessy lately?19:27
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InHisNameHey one machine the /var/log/messages is 0 bytes.   Seems to be offline.  How to get syslog back reporting errors ?23:30
InHisNameerrors are not in /var/log/messages but in /var/log/syslog instead.    I have one machine each way.  Why ?23:44
InHisNameNo both have a syslog,   but one also has messages.  How to turn on messages on 2nd machine ?23:46

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