[00:00] <yagoo> phong__, you use sudo in front of apt-get
[00:00] <qin> phong__: sudo apt-get install openssh-server (to install ssh server)
[00:00] <Noom> hey guys - can i ask relatively basic questions here?
[00:00] <Noom> or is there a nub IRC
[00:00] <jhjh> why my FRESHLY installed ubuntu SEGFAULTS and PANICS?
[00:01] <phong__> qin, ok finished install now what?
[00:01] <antimoof> I'm having issues with my intel hd audio + realtek ALC662: I can only access the device as root, and when it does edign to let me access it, the sound output is really really faint. any suggestions? (the googles are not being overly helpful other than "try messing with the modprobe options".)
[00:01] <phong__> i did that command and it does installed....what happened next ?
[00:01] <itchee> jhjh, have a null modem cable between the two, and using Hyperterminal on the winxpbox, and minicom on the ubuntu, i can open the com ports and type back and forth. it isn't TCp/IP at all! now i am trying to get the ubuntu box to repeat back to me, what i type from the windows box,
[00:01] <phong__> i can do ftp to my IP now?
[00:02] <jhjh> if someone would paste ubuntu's proprietary /etc/fstab and kernel parameter configuration, I would be be very glad
[00:02] <phong_> qin, ???
[00:02] <Noom> my install is pretty clean, let me dig the file out jhjh
[00:03] <phong_> qin, come on brother...what is the next time...i am not sure if ubuntu already has sftp server
[00:03] <grendel> anybody here looked at the new line of asus zenbooks?
[00:03] <Noom> jhjh: i don't have that folder - nilla must not have that application ?
[00:03] <phong_> all i want is to have sftp server so i can download or upload file
[00:03] <qin> phong_: Now you can: ssh username@host_or_ip, for ftp it will look similar..
[00:03] <qin> !ftp
[00:03] <qin> phong_: ^^^
[00:04] <qin> !ftpd | phong_
[00:04] <HrznDefeated> Hello all.  I have an ubuntu application installer that complains it only supports 10.04 LTS when I run it.  I am currently running 11.10.  Is there any convenient way to trick the installer in to thinking my system is 10.04?
[00:04] <jhjh> Noom, you should have /etc/fstab unless ubuntu became so proprietary that junked it
[00:04] <dr_willis> itchee: old school. did things like that years ago.
[00:04] <Noom> guys when i booted up linux, i'm pretty certain unity 3d was not enabled - so i googled around, saw a post that said to terminal "unity" so i did. i've had warnings and errors piling up in the terminal for 10 minutes now, whats going on ?
[00:05] <phong_> don't i have to run ftp ?
[00:05] <Noom> jhjh: its not even hidden, nothing in /etc/ by that name
[00:05] <phong_> you meant ubuntu is already running sftp ?
[00:05] <phong_> don't i have to start the service or something?
[00:05] <jhjh> help me to setup proprietary ubuntu /etc/fstab file
[00:06] <Noom> i'm trying to get unity3d "switched on" - was running 'unity' in a terminal the right thing ?
[00:06] <jhjh> it has my /, proc, sysfs and devpts, is that ok?
[00:07] <qin> phong_: Most servers are started after installation: sudo netstat -tulp to see if it is running.
[00:08] <Noom> hrm...i had another question - on the net i'm seeing guides for creating application launchers
[00:08] <Noom> people use "create new launcher" through their right click menu
[00:08] <Noom> i have no such option ....
[00:08] <phong_> qin, what am i looking  for there?
[00:08] <Noom> is that normal, and how can i create app launchers without it ?
[00:08] <jhjh> i had ubuntu kernel crashing and would liek to get some help :(
[00:09] <itchee> dr_willis, yep I have a projector at church that is connected to a winxp box, via old school cable with db9 connectors, using the harware com port on the back of the computer. I can send specially formated plain text commands to it,  example *pow=on# or *sour=hdmi# and it will power on an off, or switch  sources! i am trying to write a simple VB program to send these commands at the push of a
[00:09] <itchee> button. because i don't have 24/7 access to the projector and computer, i am trying to simulate this with two machines connected.
[00:09] <qin> phong_: if you already installed ftp server, then ftp
[00:09] <phong_> qin, i dont install nothing
[00:09] <Noom> itchee, thats awesome :D
[00:09] <phong_> well how to install the ftp server then?
[00:09] <itchee> the projector will respond by repeating my commands, or if it is a baad command, respond by saying illeagal action. just trying to replicate that!
[00:09] <Noom> so the projector is running linux ?
[00:10] <phong_> all i've installed is the openssh u told me
[00:10] <itchee> nope, my second machine is
[00:10] <qin> !ftpd | phong_ , get familiar with contents of following
[00:10] <Noom> do you even need the cable in place to test /replicate? why not just have VB create a special client app that responds in the same way ?
[00:11] <phong_> qin, :( just tellm e what to install in command line?
[00:11] <itchee> need to test via the cable to get the timing right, if two fast have to slow down the baud rate
[00:11] <Noom> aaaah ok so you're figuring out the protocol setup
[00:11] <_spt_> Phong__ : checkout this thread about setting up fpt http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=429783#post429783
[00:11] <Noom> surely you could get a linux box to listen on that port and just echo ?
[00:11] <qin> phong_: sudo apt-get install ftpd (never used ftp, so guessing)
[00:11] <rcmaehl_fallback> I'm having problems with ubuntu 11.10 capturing the mouse. Minecraft seems to capture it fine but Virtual box and Urban Terror can't seem to capture and hide it
[00:12] <phong_> thanks...i like that link
[00:12] <phong_> thanks _spt_
[00:12] <itchee> that is what is am trying to do, but how to get the box to echo? not everly familiar with ubuntu
[00:12] <rcmaehl_fallback> is there any thing I can supply to help with the diagnosis?
[00:12] <Noom> itchee - i wouldnt know where to start
[00:12] <Noom> i'm guessing you'll need to code something
[00:12] <jmichaelx> i have a dell inspiron 530 running kubuntu, and since upgrading to 11.10. it often fails to fully shut down. it also is no longer seeming to always power the monitor down when it should
[00:12] <jmichaelx> any ideas?
[00:12] <Noom> just some app that listens to a port for data, could be any language i guess
[00:13] <Noom> so is there like one guy in here trying to help us all ?
[00:13] <itchee> the old bbs systems would send you a menu, and then you would choose a menu item, and it would send you an new menu
[00:13] <itchee> kind what i am looking for
[00:13] <Noom> tbh itchee that's getting well beyond my skillset heh
[00:13] <itchee> maybe a script that would run in a serial terminal program???
[00:14] <Noom> i would like to get someones attention for a few minutes, i have a couple very basic ubuntu questions
[00:14] <jhjh> can someboty tell me PROPRIETARY UBUNTU KERNEL PARAMETERS which make it run without CRASHES?
[00:14] <itchee> have googled the hell out of it
[00:14] <Noom> google has been really, really, really dodgy lately
[00:14] <jhjh> also example of PROPRIETARY ubuntu FSTAB file are appreciated
[00:14] <Noom> i cant find *a thing*
[00:14] <qin> itchee: setting gopher would be this, but most universal is telnet
[00:14] <Noom> oh qin you're working your way down the list :D *waits patiently*
[00:15] <avdeveloper> question: does anyone know how to update Java from update 26 to update 29?
[00:15] <rcmaehl_fallback> oh yeah
[00:15] <rcmaehl_fallback> ubuntu 11.10 64-bit
[00:15] <Edson> good night. someone here knows how to fix the tvtime without sound on ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 3?
[00:15] <qin> jhjh: Are you for REALS looking for proprietary help?
[00:15] <itaylor57> avdeveloper, you will have to install your own from java.com
[00:15] <jhjh> qin, what?
[00:16] <qin> jhjh: Nothing.
[00:16] <kapo> hi
[00:16] <avdeveloper> itaylor57: i installed it via .bin file from Java but it still says update 26
[00:16] <phong_> qin, ok how to make a 'downloads' folder to be shared ?
[00:16] <phong_> sudo mkdir FTP-shared       instead of that.
[00:16] <qxt> I am on Debian testing. Been using GNU/Linux since about 1992. Thought I would give Ubuntu a try in VM before I commit. Even though I hate Gnome3 (love Gnome2) I a forced to deal with it. Question; Is there a way to replace that ridicules Unity with a real Gnome 3 environment. Shell and everything.
[00:16] <kapo> hi???
[00:16] <kapo> someone can say HI!!!!?
[00:16] <itaylor57> avdeveloper, thats because /usr/bin/java is linked to your 26 installed version
[00:17] <phong_> _spt_, i follow that link..how to make  the 'Downloads' folder to be shared?
[00:17] <avdeveloper> ooh
[00:17] <kapo> HI!!
[00:17] <jhjh> i used real free linux and it booted fine without proprietary kernel parameters and fstab entries, why ubuntu is different?
[00:17] <avdeveloper> thx
[00:17] <qin> phong_: man pages of ftpd or online howto...
[00:17] <conntrack> all too easy
[00:17] <MichaelG3> Hey all, I need some help. I believe my ATI FGLXR driver is corrupt, and I want to know how to enable the default display driver. (I'm using LinuxMint, but I don't believe that will be much different.)
[00:17] <kapo> someone uses BackTrack??
[00:17] <Ph3arr3t> about the java... did you uninstall before upgrade to 64 bit
[00:17] <Ph3arr3t> kapo .. I am
[00:17] <qxt> kapo I am dev on Back|Track
[00:17] <_spt_> Phong__ : you will need to set the permision to read/write
[00:18] <kapo> its good OS??
[00:18] <phong_> _spt_, do you want to remote connect to my pc?
[00:18]  * Noom pokes qin
[00:18] <kapo> can i use that for WI FI??
[00:18] <Ph3arr3t> I like it as it has a bit more than  the normal Ubuntu version
[00:18] <qxt> kapo if pen testing it is the best. For using as a desktop it is about the worst.
[00:18] <nd456> can anyone help me add a blocklist to transmission 1.93?
[00:18] <phong_> i'm not very understanding this
[00:18] <HrznDefeated> Nevermind I found the answer-- editing /etc/lsb-release
[00:19] <riyonuk> Just installed wubi. Upon restart, and another restart, it shows purple, then black...
[00:19] <MichaelG3> Anyone know how to enable the default display driver from the command line? Please!
[00:19] <kapo> and for WIFI?
[00:19] <qxt> kapo 90% of all the tools are root. As you know you log in as root pw toor. There is a reason for that.
[00:19] <phong_> _spt_, nevermind, i'm going to just follow that guide
[00:19] <corey_> hello
[00:19] <_spt_> Phong__ : Just read that link, all the information is there.
[00:19] <qxt> kapo a lot of the tools are for wifi injection. You will want something like the ALFA
[00:19] <itaylor57> avdeveloper, sudo pdate --alternatives --config java
[00:20] <avdeveloper> thx
[00:20] <itaylor57> avdeveloper, sudo update --alternatives --config java
[00:20] <Guest68932> why does it say i failed to identify my nick
[00:20] <kapo> i guess i go to install BackTrack in Vitual Box
[00:20] <escott> !register | Guest68932
[00:20] <Guest68932> my brother wants to do that
[00:21] <qxt> kapo learn sqlmap, metasploit framwork, Burp and you can more or less own anything on the net.
[00:21] <Noom> qin: can i steal your attention for a few minutes? got a couple simple questions
[00:21] <MichaelG3> Anyone know how to enable the default display driver from the command line? My X will not start up because of this ATI fglrx driver!!!
[00:21] <Jake7> Quick question: I just checked the hardware compatibility list for my Asus Eee PC 1000 and found 10.04.3 Lucid recommended. Has anyone had or heard of any experiences running something more current on an Asus 1000?
[00:21] <Guest68932> use backtrack in a virtual box but have you ever done it kapo
[00:21] <qin> Noom: If I have any attention, yes.
[00:22] <jhjh> can someone paste me proprietary kernel parameters and fstab contents?
[00:22] <dr_willis> Jake7:  new releases shiuld work fine
[00:22] <Noom> qin: haha - ok here we go - i've noticed i dont have unity3d - so i wanted it - i googled around and saw the suggestion to terminal "unity" and see what happens
[00:22] <Noom> so i did that, and i've got like 20 pages of warnings and errors, and its still running (looks hung) for about 30 minutes now
[00:22] <dr_willis> Jake7: lubuntu is good for low end machines
[00:23] <kandinski> what does the orange border around an icon when you alt-tab in unity mean?
[00:23] <qin> Noom: unity --replace (2d/3d depense from your grapfic card)
[00:23] <jhjh> !time
[00:23] <qxt> there is nothing wrong with using Back|Track on a VM. The best wifi adapters are all USB ones.
[00:23] <kandinski> normally only firefox has it (on my machine)
[00:23] <qin> Noom: Or better to test it compiz --replace
[00:23] <Noom> can i just kill this process in the terminal ?
[00:23] <escott> kandinski, i think it means that it has a message for you (new email, new im etc)
[00:23] <kandinski> right, but firefox?
[00:23] <Jake7> dr_wilis: Thanks! I wonder why they haven't updated the hardware compatibility list?
[00:23] <kandinski> escott: thanks
[00:24] <Edson> i was installed alsa mixer, but it don't works
[00:24] <AbuMaia> I have a bash script with 3 different variables: A is a time of 6:30, B is the current time from the date command, and C is a time of 19:45. How can I compare the times to determine if B is before or after the other two?
[00:24] <dr_willis> Jake7:  limited manpower
[00:24] <Noom> qin: can i kill the current "unity" process running in my terminal ?
[00:24] <Noom> without breaking anything
[00:24] <Ph3arr3t> =>qxt .. when you got a minute I have a question.
[00:24] <qxt> Ph3arr3t, sure
[00:24] <Jake7> dr_willis: Sounds reasonable. Thanks again!
[00:24] <qin> Noom: --replace (it will replace current running instance)
[00:25] <escott> Noom, if you lose focus on the terminal you may have trouble getting metacity to start. so you would have to ctrl-alt-f1 and login. export DISPLAY=:0; metacity --replace;
[00:25] <Noom> escott: you just had to go and confuse me didnt you
[00:25] <qin> escott: Good job :)
[00:25] <fnord123> Hi all. I dual boot into windows and after I've used windows for a bit and reboot into Linux, I can't get on the router. I have wpa_supplicant complaining that association timed out.
[00:26] <Ph3arr3t> ty trying to get GMameui running, but it keeps asking for the executable. tried pointing it to Linux and win32 versions.. nope
[00:26] <Noom> qin:  are you saying i need to create a new process, defining it like this "unity --replace 3d" ?
[00:26] <fnord123> Would this be something with the router thinking im spoofing a mac address or something on the computer side?
[00:26] <Ph3arr3t> also tries to native compile the source.. asks for a older version of something than I already have installed
[00:26] <dr_willis> Ph3arr3t:  wants the path to xmame  most likely
[00:26] <jhjh> can someboty tell me PROPRIETARY UBUNTU KERNEL PARAMETERS which make it run without CRASHES?
[00:27] <escott> Noom, if that confuses you I wouldn't ctrl-c the process in the terminal :)
[00:27] <Ph3arr3t> /usr/share/games/
[00:27] <kandinski> I have a question about scripting the ubuntu desktop. I want to write a script that will reconfigure the f-keys, so I can have a wrapper for a certain program. My wrapper would free up f-keys on invokation, and reconfigure them back as unity had them on exit.
[00:27] <kandinski> Does anybody know how you would do that?
[00:27] <Noom> escott: i think its hung...but i dont even know if i've done something bad lol
[00:27] <yagoo> kandinski, look into xbindkeys
[00:27] <Ph3arr3t> hmm hang on a sec dr_willis ... I'll try
[00:27] <qin> Noom: No, rather: compiz --replace; and see what will happen, bear in ming what escott told you, since it may messup things temporarly.
[00:27] <phong_> ok i got it to work now
[00:27] <yagoo> kandinski, i'd google ubuntu wiki xbindkey
[00:27] <kandinski> yagoo: thanks a lot
[00:27] <phong_> what is the port foward for sftp?
[00:27] <escott> kandinski, depends on the key, some like the suspend key are hardwired to the acpi tables, for others you can use xmodmap
[00:27] <phong_> 21 ?
[00:28] <phong_> or 22
[00:28] <yagoo> phong_, it runs within ssh.. it's the same port #
[00:28] <dr_willis> Ph3arr3t:  /path/to/xmame
[00:28] <escott> Noom, its not hung, you have just lost the ability to control the windows
[00:28] <Noom> qin: i think its just over my head tbh lol - what escott said makes 0 sense
[00:28] <phong_> well what is it?
[00:28] <yagoo> phong_, thats why it's called a subsystem of ssh (sftp by default is installed with ssh)
[00:28] <fnord123> sftp runs over ssh: 22
[00:28] <Noom> escott: i cant still type in the terminal
[00:28] <fnord123> unless you configure it otherwise
[00:28] <phong_> ok thanks i need to add that to router
[00:28] <phong_> thanks let me try
[00:28] <kandinski> escott, thanks too. I need to capture the state, not just modify it, because then I need to put the keys back how they were (so my program can use f1, f2 etc while in fullscreen, but free them up while in window mode)
[00:28] <escott> Noom, ctrl-alt-f1 and then ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[00:29] <iamben> if someone has a working lightdm/autologin setup, can they pastebin lightdm.conf for me?
[00:29] <yagoo> phong_, oh if you're running this over the internet.. you can test it-- but i'd do 2 things, set up my server ip as static (not dhcp), and change the server's default port from hacker attempts
[00:29] <phong_> i have not a clue
[00:29] <phong_> what are you talking about
[00:29] <yagoo> lol
[00:29] <phong_> lol
[00:29] <Noom> escott:  sorry - i mean, i CAN type in the terminal, its not broken, the process just doesnt seem to run
[00:29] <Guest68932> hey phong
[00:30] <yagoo> phong_, if you said "port forwarding" on your router.. that gave me an idea you'd know at least what i'm talking about
[00:30] <phong_> sup guess
[00:30] <Ph3arr3t> TY dr_willis it was after the .x11 ver
[00:30] <Guest68932> how do i get a room name
[00:30] <Guest68932> ?
[00:30] <yagoo> Guest2223174, "pow"
[00:30] <dr_willis> Ph3arr3t: makes sence.
[00:30] <jhjh> can someone help me with my ubuntu spoiled itself?
[00:30] <Guest68932> pow
[00:31] <Guest68932> i mean phong do you know
[00:31] <phong_> yagoo, i let router reserve the ip to that ubuntu
[00:31] <yagoo> jhjh, you can't compile kernels. you're toooo new at it.. you should toy around with kernel compilation in a virtualbox
[00:31] <Ph3arr3t> didn't to me though ..lol
[00:31] <phong_> i am still not quite get ur syaing
[00:31] <dr_willis> bbl
[00:31] <Guest68932> #name freechange
[00:31] <qxt> OMG, Think I take a look at Arch Linux. Really do not think that this hipster ipad wannabe joke is "Ubuntu" is my cup of test. This UI is even more embarrassing them Gnome3!
[00:32] <jhjh> yagoo, compile kernels wtf you're talking about?
[00:32] <qxt> wow, to think it would come to this. Sad.
[00:32] <phong_> yagoo, ok          listen... the IP is always giving the same one to ubuntu, because i set my router to reserve it.
[00:32] <Guest68932> like is there a command while im in the room to change from guest to a name ? do you know xchat commands phong?
[00:32] <bonhoffer> anyone able to help me remove an "unknown" monitor
[00:33] <phong_> and within router i port 22 to that IP of the ubuntu
[00:33] <qin> Guest68932: /nick new_name
[00:33] <jhjh> !kernel oneiric
[00:33] <phong_> yagoo, do you understand me?
[00:33] <elz89> Guest68932: /join freenode i'd suggest, you need some serious help...
[00:33] <kandinski> yagoo, escott, since you've been so helpful. The other thing I want to do is a keyboard mapping that has timeouts for the deadkeys, so I can have a mix of US and ES keyboards depending on how close I key certain combinations. Example: ' + a would produce á if keyed in a short interval, but 'a if the a is keyed after the ' deadkey timeout. So "deadkeys" with timeouts. What to google for?
[00:33] <Noom_> i dunno why but when i hit ctrl+alt+f1 it wouldnt let me log in with my u/n p/w
[00:33] <qin> elz89: Sweet.
[00:33] <bonhoffer> i have two screens in "Displays" but i really only have one
[00:33] <Noom_> so whatever was running in that terminal window is dead now - i had to reboot
[00:34] <yagoo> kandinski, i'd probably google or apt-cache search "scim"
[00:34] <bonhoffer> all my app is showing on the "unknown" screen
[00:34] <NoReGreT> what is the repo for launchpad.net ?
[00:34] <Guest68932> #name (freechange)
[00:34] <tonyyarusso> NoReGreT: what do you mean?
[00:34] <jhjh> kandinski, why not just compose key?
[00:34] <Noom_> give up on unity3d lol - cant even tell if its running :(
[00:34] <NoReGreT> tonyyarusso: i meant source
[00:34] <kandinski> jhjh, you are not Spanish, are you? compose key is useless for people who touch-type accents since they were 15
[00:34] <Guest68932> #help
[00:35] <bonhoffer> i've been looking at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution but can't see anything there
[00:35] <Guest68932> #(help)
[00:35] <tonyyarusso> NoReGreT: https://dev.launchpad.net/
[00:35] <elz89> Guest68932: please stop spamming!
[00:35] <Guest68932> (#help)
[00:35] <pfifo> Guest68932, /join #help
[00:35] <kandinski> jhjh s/Spanish/Spanish or Serbian or Swedish or.../
[00:35] <qin> !irc | Guest68932
[00:35] <yagoo> kandinski, did you get my response prior?
[00:35] <Noom_> escott: what happened there ?
[00:35] <kandinski> yagoo: scim, yeah thanks
[00:35] <escott> kandinski, so look into the "COMPOSE" key which can be remapped from the advanced features of the keyboard to capslock. to save your state just have two copies of the xmodmap file and swap them
[00:35] <kandinski> yagoo, I got lost answering to the ascii-centric
[00:35]  * yagoo commonly does google "ubuntu wiki <keyword/s> "
[00:36] <_nin> et.net
[00:36] <bonhoffer> so much online about adding a second monitor, but how do i remove a second monitor
[00:36] <escott> Noom_, unclear. if you want to !paste a screenshot we could look at it
[00:36] <kandinski> escott: again, if you are an English native speaker it's difficult for me to explain *why* compose keys don't cut it
[00:36] <Guest68932> guess there is not a command list for xchat
[00:36] <kandinski> let me type a common phrase in Spanish, which is my native language that I write thousands of words a day in
[00:36] <Noom_> escott: well what does ctrl+alt+f1 do and why dont my standard login credentials work there
[00:37] <escott> kandinski, then i have no idea. you can change your input method.
[00:37] <NoReGreT> tonyyarusso: I'm not talking about source code, i'm talking about software source, a repository...
[00:37] <bonhoffer> sorry, i might not have been voiced -- anyone know how to remove a monitor in ubuntu?
[00:37] <qin> !ppa | NoReGreT
[00:37] <kandinski> escott: "la acentuación española requeriría pingüe explosión"
[00:37] <kandinski> ridiculous sentence
[00:37] <escott> noom, ctrl-alt-f1 takes you to tty1 think of it as a rescue terminal for when the gui messes up
[00:37] <tonyyarusso> NoReGreT: What do you mean?  What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:37] <dr_willis> bonhoffer: what video chipset
[00:37] <jhjh> can someboty tell me PROPRIETARY UBUNTU KERNEL PARAMETERS which make it run without CRASHES?
[00:37] <kandinski> escott: I type the accents with my pinkie on the home row
[00:37] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, i have 2500K with HD3000
[00:38] <bonhoffer> integrated intel graphics
[00:38] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: There's no such thing as a proprietary ubuntu kernel parameter.
[00:38] <dr_willis> bonhoffer:  ati? nvidia?
[00:38] <bonhoffer> it works great -- but i can only set resolution for an "unknown" monitor in "displays"
[00:38] <elz89> !caps | jhjh
[00:38] <AbuMaia> I have a bash script with 3 different variables: A is a time of 6:30, B is the current time from the date command, and C is a time of 19:45. How can I compare the times to determine if B is before or after the other two?
[00:38] <jhjh> tonyyarusso, of course that is, as it cannot boot without them
[00:38] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, it is an integrated intel graphics chipset
[00:38] <dr_willis> oh inted.. the monitors tool should control that bonhoffer
[00:38] <yagoo> jhjh, if you get kernel crashes then you really have to google your hardware+ubuntu online.. cuse we can't really help ya without you knowing your hardware insideout
[00:38] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: What are you talking about?
[00:39] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, i agree -- so i have two monitors in the monitors tool
[00:39] <jhjh> it is not about my hardware which is fine
[00:39] <qin> AbuMaia: Convert to seconds (from one universal point) and use aritmetics
[00:39] <zromayn> hey there. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 11.10 server 64bit and then installed nfs-kernel-server (cmd: sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server -y) and the install was successful. I went ahead and modified the /etc/exports file. Something really simple: /home/user1 host1(ro,sync,no_subtree_check) then ran the exportfs command. Then the following error came. See http://pastie.org/2833878
[00:39] <jhjh> it;s about ubuntu spoiled itself 2 days after install
[00:39] <bonhoffer> "unknown" (that i can interact with) and hsd 27", my actual monitor i'm typing on now
[00:39] <bonhoffer> things only work if mirrored
[00:39] <tonyyarusso> AbuMaia: Pick a programming language and see what's available.  For instance, python's datetime module would work well.
[00:39] <dr_willis> bonhoffer:  on my intel laptop the special fn keys tyrned them on and off alfo
[00:39] <noomy> that was weird, got banned o.O
[00:39] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, i'm really struggling here -- researched a good bit today, but no info on this
[00:40] <tonyyarusso> AbuMaia: If you want it all in bash only, using seconds since 1970 would be easiest.
[00:40] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, alfo?
[00:40] <jhjh> tonyyarusso, when proprietary ubuntu kernel is passed only root parameter it segfaults!
[00:40] <qin> AbuMaia: Also: man date is full of tricks
[00:40] <NoReGreT> tonyyarusso: what's wrong... i'm talking about a software repository... a source... so i can apt-get software... or is that dead in new ubuntu releases ??
[00:40] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: There is no such thing as a proprietary ubuntu kernel.
[00:40] <dr_willis> bonhoffer:  i just hit the fn-whatever keys to toggle mine
[00:40] <bonhoffer> anyway -- i'm on a desktop -- no idea why this doesn't work out of the box
[00:40] <yagoo> tonyyarusso, we told him.. but he keeps talking like that
[00:40] <AbuMaia> tonyyarusso: how would I do that? I used to have it as "if A < B and B < C", but something changed with 11.10 that that doesn't work anymore.
[00:41] <tonyyarusso> NoReGreT: You can not install Launchpad via APT.
[00:41] <zromayn> reposting: hey there. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 11.10 server 64bit and then installed nfs-kernel-server (cmd: sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server -y) and the install was successful. I went ahead and modified the /etc/exports file. Something really simple: /home/user1 host1(ro,sync,no_subtree_check) then ran the exportfs command. Then the following error came. See http://pastie.org/2833878
[00:41] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, fair enough
[00:41] <noomy> escott: i've got one last question for you - when i google around about app shorcuts i see people talking about "right click -> create launcher" i dont have this option, has something changed in the latest ubuntu? how do i easily create launchers?
[00:41] <jhjh> not kernel, but secret parameters
[00:41] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, i would push a button if i had one
[00:41] <elz89> !wait | zromayn
[00:41] <jhjh> noomy, it was for gnome 2, now it's unity
[00:41] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: There is NO SUCH THING.
[00:41] <dr_willis> jhjh: askubujtu.com had a list u think
[00:42] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com
[00:42] <jhjh> then why ubuntu segfaults with default parameters?
[00:42] <noomy> ah ok - does unity have a way to create "shortcuts" ? i dislik needing to create a file for every single app i install
[00:42] <yagoo> zromayn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[00:42] <kandinski> yagoo: thanks too for the "ubuntu wiki <keyword/s>" tip
[00:42]  * yagoo googled ubuntu wiki nfs
[00:42] <yagoo> np
[00:42] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: Because you broke something.  I don't know what's wrong with your system, but that's doesn't change the fact that there is no "secret" to it.
[00:42] <jhjh> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic root=/dev/sdb6 --> bam! segfault
[00:43] <kandinski> and yagoo and escott: thanks for answering with "this is the correct keyword to google for". Most of us would RTFM happily if we knew which part of TFM is that we are looking for!
[00:43] <kandinski> yagoo++, escott++
[00:43] <noomy> no easy way to create launcher files in unity?
[00:43] <jhjh> *i* broke something?
[00:43] <kandinski> noomy, Unity is great, but it does seem half-finished
[00:43] <jhjh> noomy, you can pin them to sidebar instead
[00:43] <escott> !info alacarte | noomy
[00:43] <kandinski> like where is the wine menu with all your wine apps?
[00:44] <noomy> is unity still considered GNOME ? would that app even work ?
[00:44] <Guest68932> can you run a perfect world from wine?
[00:44] <escott> noomy, yes it still works
[00:44] <noomy> ah, great i'l ltry that, thanks - but my issue is slightly complicated
[00:44] <kandinski> Unity solves very well many of the problems it set out to solve, but in the process it decided not to care about many "lesser" problems
[00:44] <tonyyarusso> A perfect world wouldn't need WINE.
[00:44] <noomy> i have a jnlp file that launches another app, so i need to pin the launcher, not the app
[00:45] <jhjh> can someone paste me fstab ubuntu uses?
[00:45] <kandinski> Guest68932: is "a perfect world" a program?
[00:45] <Guest68932> if your os is ubuntu how would you install the game on ubuntu
[00:45] <dr_willis> unity is a work in progress.. yes.
[00:45] <dr_willis> there are classic gnome like menu indicator applets you can use
[00:45] <Guest68932> ?
[00:45] <zromayn> ubottu: I don't post here without doing my due diligence. I have googled it, and even searched help.ubuntu.com, I reposted because the messages were piling up and didn't want ppl to miss mine.
[00:45] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: No, fstab is different on every system.
[00:45] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com has a nice list
[00:45] <kandinski> zromayn: don't answer to ubottu, it's a bot. Someone triggered it, but don't take it personally.
[00:45] <bonhoffer> well in .config/monitors.xml there is the unknown monitor --i'm going with that
[00:45] <Guest68932> how would you install the game a perfect world on ubuntu ?
[00:45] <kandinski> Guest68932: googling for it
[00:46] <jhjh> Guest68932, wine? appdb?
[00:46] <kandinski> Guest68932: free to play mmporg?
[00:46] <Srbuntu> j
[00:46] <kandinski> I would just download the installer and hit it
[00:46] <zromayn> yagoo: you have just sent me to the quick nfs-server setup. that doesn't help me with the issue I'm facing.
[00:46] <kandinski> I seem to have a 50/50 success with indie game downloads
[00:46] <Guest68932> so perfect world would work with wine?
[00:47] <kandinski> Guest68932: just try
[00:47] <kandinski> it's what I do
[00:47] <jhjh> i need proper ubuntu fstab file which passes checks by propritary ubuntu startup scripts
[00:47] <kandinski> run the installer, then go to the unity thing and type in the name
[00:47] <noomy_> ok one last openJDK related question - every time i launch this app, java has to download all the client files (its as if its not caching temp files) how do you config openJDK ??
[00:47] <dr_willis> !appdb | Guest68932
[00:47] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: There are no proprietary startup scripts, so stop saying that.
[00:47] <kandinski> Guest68932: what the hell, I am downloading it
[00:48] <bonhoffer> after i config monitors.xml how do i see the changes
[00:48] <bonhoffer> reload the display
[00:48] <jhjh> I still need a working fstab example
[00:48] <dr_willis> some init scripts may read options passed to the system by the kernel.. like the 'text' option
[00:49] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: My fstab works on my machine.  It will not work on your machine.  You can't just copy that file randomly.
[00:49] <noomy_> kandinski: unity thing?? is there some kind of unity control panel i've not found ?>
[00:49] <jhjh> i need special ubuntu entries to make sure my fstab was not corrupted by free linux
[00:49] <bonhoffer> ok, so when i reboot and it all goes to hell -- how do i get to a command prompt?
[00:50] <jhjh> not stuff like / or swap
[00:50] <kandinski> noomy_: the lens that pops up when you hit your symbol key
[00:50] <dr_willis> boot a live cd.. look at its fstab perhaps.
[00:50] <noomy_> lense o.O
[00:50] <kandinski> hit windows/ubuntu key, type in name of wine program, enter
[00:50] <kandinski> yep
[00:50] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, isn't there a way to get out of xwindows
[00:50] <noomy_> oooh the dash, got ya
[00:50] <bonhoffer> adn to a command prompt
[00:50] <noomy_> thought you were talking about some config GUI or something
[00:50] <bonhoffer> like control f1 or soemthing
[00:50] <kandinski> Guest68932: the Perfect World installer segfaults when run on my machine
[00:50] <noomy_> i dont even know if i'm on unity3d >.< i dont think this environment
[00:50] <jhjh> problem is I recycled live cd already, I didn't knew ubuntu destroys itself wach 2 days
[00:51] <itaylor57> dr_willis, he is using grub 1 and trying to boot 11.10
[00:51] <jhjh> *each
[00:51] <bonhoffer> ok -- i'll boot with livecd to fix things if this screws them up
[00:51] <kandinski> Guest68932: I am running a close to stock 11.10 with the stock wine, so I think the answer is "no unless you tinker"
[00:51] <noomy_> did anyone see my openJDK question earlier ?
[00:51] <myk_robinson> Quick question.. Is the nvidia 8400gs just a crappy card or are there some issues with nVidia in 11.10? My intel laptop performs better than this 1GB desktop card...
[00:51] <yagoo> zromayn, i'm guessing there may be a blacklist rule for home directories.. try apropos nfs or check the manpage if such a thing is possible
[00:52] <bonhoffer> is there a way to reload the gui without rebooting?
[00:52] <jhjh> should sysfs and devpts be there?
[00:52] <bonhoffer> re-load monitors.xml etc
[00:52] <badapple> are you using unity or gnome3?
[00:53] <zromayn> yagoo: thanks, I'll look into that. Does anybody else have any other suggestions. Anything to help me figure out this error message see http://pastie.org/2833878
[00:53] <escott> bonhoffer, you can sudo service lightdm restart but that will kill your desktop session
[00:54] <jhjh> i need proper ubuntu fstab file which passes checks by ubuntu startup scripts
[00:54] <bonhoffer> escott, no problem -- isn't there restartx or something?
[00:54] <jhjh> bonhoffer, restarting x is done by logging out
[00:54] <noomy_> last question here :D - openJDK related question - every time i launch this particular app, java has to download all the client files (its as if its not caching temp files) how do you config openJDK ?? i cant find an quivalent for "javaws - viewer"
[00:54] <escott> bonhoffer, well thats what restarting the dm service will do. there used to be nozap but that is disabled
[00:54] <dr_willis> bonhoffer:  sudo service lightdm stop
[00:54] <bonhoffer> i'll try that
[00:55] <bonhoffer> if it doesn't work isn't there a ctl+f1 option to get to cli
[00:55] <dr_willis> !nozap
[00:55] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[00:56] <dr_willis> !console
[00:56] <kandinski> dr_willis: I use ubuntu tweak to reenable such things
[00:56] <jhjh> i need proper ubuntu fstab file which passes checks by ubuntu startup scripts
[00:56] <kandinski> and ctrl-shift-T and guake with f12 for my terminals
[00:56] <bonhoffer> dr_willis, ha -- i know the console -- in the past i've stepped out of x to a bunch of terminal options
[00:57] <kandinski> bonhoffer: ctrl+shift+t is a great shortcut to know
[00:57] <kandinski> which reminds e of another question
[00:57] <noomy_> i bet about 20 people just opened new tabs in firefox
[00:57] <gogeta> lol
[00:57] <jayar> heh
[00:57] <kandinski> noomy, right that's undo tab!
[00:57] <kandinski> I meant ctrl+alt+T
[00:58] <kandinski> sorry guys
[00:58] <noomy_> hahahahaha
[00:58] <kandinski> at least I did not make you logout or whatever
[00:58] <noomy_> LOL!
[00:58] <conntrack> haha
[00:58] <noomy_> good point
[00:58] <kandinski> I still remember oldstyle IRC griefing
[00:58] <noomy_> "ctrl+q gets you free cookies" ?
[00:58] <kandinski> "hit alt+F4 and it will fix your problem" <<< DON'T
[00:58] <jayar> yea, good old alt+f4
[00:58] <kandinski> anyway, another question
[00:58] <raisin_> How can I copy only the files from the source that are larger in size than those of the destination?
[00:58] <lele_> hello
[00:59] <zromayn> all: ok, I'll guess I'll keep looking around about my issue
[00:59] <vemo> alt f4 closes the open window
[00:59] <kandinski> I want to be able to launch the "new message" window from thunderbird from anywhere on ubuntu, just using ctrl+tab+m
[00:59] <elz89> !ask | lele_
[00:59] <kandinski> just like for the terminal
[00:59] <kandinski> but for sending a new message even if thunderbird is not open
[01:00] <kandinski> any idea how to do that?
[01:00] <noomy_> you'd probably need a script that runs on keybind, to open t-bird
[01:00] <vemo> do what
[01:00] <noomy_> 'cus you i doubt you can pump in a "new message" command to linux and have it just figure it out
[01:00] <kandinski> noomy_: right
[01:00] <noomy_> although....i have a keyboard button that opens the mail client, maybe you can just have a cmd that opens it and makes a new msg?
[01:01] <noomy_> i'm no coder, but couldnt you say "run tbid -> wait5 -> new msg"
[01:01] <noomy_> and for more stability, have it check if tbird is open first
[01:01] <kandinski> yeah, trying to figure it out
[01:01] <mao> under ubuntu how to format a partion to btrfs filesystem
[01:01] <noomy_> i'm guessing you can just make a sh script or something
[01:02] <noomy_> thats beyond me
[01:02] <noomy_> i could do it in java :p
[01:03] <kandinski> noomy_: nah, thanks, I am already researching it
[01:03] <raisin_> mao: using gparted is the easiest
[01:03] <noomy_> i have a really simple straightforward question - whats the syntax to run a file (i'm trying to create my own launcher)
[01:03] <gogeta> mao: slect btrfs some alt distros might not have it
[01:03] <escott> noomy_, there is no syntax, just the full path to the file, or the relative path to the file
[01:04] <noomy_> ok let me rephrase, how does an idiot do this :P i'm not sure what to make the file (.bin???) i'm not sure if i have to have "sh" on the command
[01:04] <noomy_> etc
[01:04] <noomy_> do i have to cd first?
[01:04] <escott> noomy_, you have to chmod +x filename to make sure it is executable
[01:04] <gogeta> mao: now for the bad it does not have the corrct options at install stuff like ssd an compression have to be enabled by hand
[01:05] <gogeta> and
[01:05] <mao> Rains: I am using ubuntu10.04,there is no btrfs option on gparted
[01:05] <SwiftDark> *sneaky sneaky linux*
[01:05] <kantlivelong> hey all. can anyone recommend a nice mysql client w/ a gui view? im looking for something similar to phpmyadmin but not web based
[01:05] <gogeta> mao: oh i dont think 10.04 had support for it
[01:05] <noomy_> ok escott (not sure what that means but i can run the cmd) and its a .bin file ?
[01:05] <gogeta> mao: btrfs is still very new/unstable
[01:05] <mao> I want try fedora 16,which make btrfs for its default filesystem
[01:06] <gogeta> mao: fedora 16 has full btrfs even with the corect options
[01:06] <escott> noomy_, so if you download a file from the internet it is not assumed to be a runnable program (not like windows where anything ending in .exe gets run by double clicking). you have to use chmod to indicate it is a program
[01:06] <tomreyn> hi, i'm on oneiric and was using unity3d so far. i have set systray-whitelist=['all'] using the dconf-manager and this works fine on unity3d, but on unity2d (which I just switched to) the extra icons which do show up on unity3d do not show.
[01:06] <tomreyn> is this a known issue?
[01:06] <mao> gogeta: thanks ,i will have a try
[01:06] <noomy_> ok escott - i understand - but now i cant even run the .jnlp file from the terminal
[01:07] <noomy_> so no clue how a script will do it
[01:07] <jhjh> i STILL need help
[01:07] <escott> noomy_, well figure out how to do that. copy it into a file. make the first line #!/bin/bash and mark the file executable. thats a script
[01:07] <kantlivelong> jhjh: okay?
[01:08] <noomy_> escott: appreciate the help, but i'm so lost right now lol, why cant i just do terminal "/etc/etc/etc/filename.jnlp"
[01:08] <noomy_> i really dont understand why that wont work, when i can double click the file just fine
[01:09] <kantlivelong> noomy_: you need to give it execute perms..
[01:09] <noomy_> starting to think this is all too far beyond me :(
[01:09] <gogeta> noomy_: sudo chmod +x /etc/etc/filename.jnlp
[01:09] <raisin_> Are there any arguments for the cp command to only copy files that are larger in the source than the destination?
[01:09] <kantlivelong> noomy_: chmod +x FILENAME
[01:10] <noomy_> did that gogeta
[01:10] <raisin_> I don't see anything in the man pages
[01:10] <noomy_> it just says "command not found"
[01:10] <BangBusRUs> Hi there I wanted to ask does nvidia have anything to do with the wobble windows effect i get in ubuntu? if so why can it work on windows xp?
[01:10] <noomy_> when i try to run the jnlp
[01:10] <escott> noomy_, do ls -l /etc/etc/etc/filename.jnlp if you dont see rwx then its not marked as a program and you need to chmod +x it to turn it from rw- to rwx
[01:10] <gogeta> noomy_: then ./etc/etc/filename.jnlp
[01:10] <kantlivelong> noomy_: what is jnlp anyway
[01:10] <noomy_> java launcher
[01:10] <gogeta> noomy_: ./ is how you run a exec
[01:10] <kantlivelong> java FILENAME ?
[01:10] <noomy_> i NEED the dot ???
[01:11] <jhjh> BangBusRUs, do you use real nvidia driver or noveau crap?
[01:11] <raisin_> noomy_: Yes, the dot
[01:11] <gogeta> noomy_: yep and java lancher should work to
[01:11] <noomy_> *facepalm*
[01:11] <BangBusRUs> I'm not sure, how would I find out what I'm using?
[01:11] <escott> noomy_, its also possible that java doesnt register how to execute java programs in which case you need to say java /etc/etc/etc/filename.jnlp
[01:11] <kantlivelong> noomy_: double *facepalm*
[01:11] <trism> tomreyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/847525
[01:12] <tomreyn> thanks trism :)
[01:12] <escott> raisin_, not that im aware of. if can selectively copy newer files only
[01:12] <noomy_> well, its not running
[01:12] <noomy_> double click works but not terminal
[01:12] <noomy_> i dont get it
[01:13] <gogeta> noomy_: java /etc/etc/filename.jnlp
[01:13] <kantlivelong> noomy_: the DE does all the thinking for you :P its not as simple as it sounds
[01:13]  * kantlivelong hates DE :/
[01:13] <raisin_> escott: I'm not familiar with making bash scripts. How can file sizes be compared?
[01:13] <noomy_> now its not even running as double click wth did you guys make me do >.<
[01:13] <escott> noomy_, there is a command line tool mimeopen which you can think of as double-click for the command line. its a bit of a crutch to use though
[01:13] <gogeta> noomy_: lol
[01:14] <kantlivelong> noomy_: ps aux | grep java plz
[01:14] <escott> raisin_, ls -s filename | awk '{print $1}'
[01:14] <noomy_> what?
[01:14] <escott> raisin_, there may be a nicer way
[01:14] <kantlivelong> noomy_: in command prompt
[01:15] <noomy_> 2724  0.0  0.0   4448   788 pts/0    S+   11:14   0:00 grep --color=auto java
[01:15] <kantlivelong> noomy_: ps aux | grep java
[01:15] <kantlivelong> hmm
[01:15] <kantlivelong> so its not running
[01:15] <noomy_> its not ?
[01:15] <noomy_> the app WAS working
[01:15] <noomy_> just fine
[01:15] <raisin_> escott: Yeah, I think I'll do some research. I may just have to use the diff command and copy the rest manually :|
[01:15] <noomy_> java was running afaik
[01:15] <kantlivelong> noomy_: java FILENAME does nothing?
[01:15] <noomy_> lemme try
[01:15] <noomy_> error
[01:16] <noomy_> "could not find main class" wth
[01:16] <gogeta> noomy_: :(
[01:16] <noomy_> i think i've broken the file
[01:16] <noomy_> i'll start fresh
[01:16] <kantlivelong> noomy_: erm k...
[01:16] <kantlivelong> can anyone suggest a good mysql client?
[01:16] <jhjh> i need a help with ubnutu corrup[ted its own install and not bootting
[01:17] <escott> kantlivelong, phpmyadmin
[01:17] <kantlivelong> escott: yeah looking to avoid web based..
[01:17] <noomy_> same error, cant find main class
[01:17] <kantlivelong> mainly a query viewer... the command line isnt wide enough
[01:17] <gogeta> kantlivelong: webbased for the win
[01:17] <noomy_> still works on double click
[01:18] <noomy_> still wont cache install files :p
[01:18] <kantlivelong> gogeta: not for sensitive info..
[01:18] <kantlivelong> noomy_: is it running now w/ double click?
[01:18] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey everyone, im trying to build a ubuntu kernel with NILFS instead of ext4. ive alredy compiled the kernel. any ideas on how i can boot to it? :S
[01:18] <bonhoffer> it looks like i have compiz installed, how do i learn how to push windows around with shortcuts?
[01:18] <kantlivelong> noomy_: leave it running and do the following in terminal..
[01:18] <noomy_> kantlivelong:  wait - it closes almost immediately
[01:18] <gogeta> kantlivelong: umm command line not wide enough increse its rez or just page up
[01:18] <noomy_> its a launcher for a game
[01:19] <kantlivelong> noomy_: ps aux | grep jnlp
[01:19] <noomy_> it grabs tempt internet files and runs the actual client
[01:19] <kantlivelong> noomy_: oh..
[01:19] <kantlivelong> hmm
[01:19] <kantlivelong> gogeta: looking at 70ish rows :P
[01:19] <noomy_> i feel i should make it clear its openJDK
[01:19] <gogeta> kantlivelong: cant you page up even in bash
[01:20] <kantlivelong> gogeta: i can but try viewing that mess in shell... looks garbled :P
[01:20] <gogeta> kantlivelong: heh why not dump it to a log file then
[01:20] <kantlivelong> i used to use navicat a long time ago
[01:21] <tomreyn> trism: so i read up on Bug #847525 but it remains unclear to me when/how this fix (which seems to already exist) will become available to ineiric users. can you elaborate on this?
[01:21] <jhjh> is there a place for real, competent support?
[01:21] <caoxiaomin> .tar.gz文件如何安装
[01:21] <gogeta> kantlivelong: heh why not use it again
[01:21] <bonhoffer> i am trying to install sun-java-6 is there an official package?
[01:21] <noomy_> jhjh: insulting the only people who can help you isn't very smart
[01:21] <itaylor57> bonhoffer, there is a ppa
[01:21] <szal> !java | bonhoffer
[01:21] <kantlivelong> jhjh: yeah.. paid support
[01:21] <xangua> bonhoffer: there is a ppa, sun/oracle java is no longer on ubuntu repositories
[01:21] <yagoo> jhjh, there is real support. It's called google. Go google it.
[01:21] <kantlivelong> jhjh: that is if your too impatient
[01:22] <gogeta> jhjh: gimmie 10k for paid support
[01:22] <kantlivelong> gogeta: i suppose :P
[01:22] <gogeta> lol
[01:22] <itaylor57> bonhoffer, https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/java
[01:22] <kantlivelong> :P
[01:22] <jhjh> I asked for 3 shitty lines from fstab and not one bothered
[01:22] <xangua> www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html to install java and other stuff on oneiric ;) bonhoffer szal
[01:22] <yagoo> jhjh, come back tomorrow, i'll boil a bit of coffee overnight
[01:22] <xangua> !language | jhjh
[01:22] <kantlivelong> jhjh: stop whining.. no one helps whiners..
[01:22] <bonhoffer> wow ! thanks
[01:22] <MonkeyDust> jhjh: we're not professional support, sometimes we don't know something
[01:23] <gogeta> jhjh: its called if we dont have a answer we dont respond
[01:23] <gogeta> rather then run you with bad advice messing up the fstab can blow up a system
[01:23] <trism> tomreyn: there is a build available in the unity-2d-daily ppa in the second to last comment, I don't know when/if it will appear in oneiric
[01:23] <kantlivelong> jhjh: what are you loking for now?
[01:23] <bonhoffer> itaylor57, how do i add that ppa in 11.10?
[01:23] <bonhoffer> i don't see the traditional Synaptic Package Manager and forget the cli route i used
[01:24] <gogeta> bonhoffer: sudo apt-get install packagename
[01:24] <yagoo> jhjh, the problem is not fstab, the problem is you.
[01:24] <tomreyn> trism: yes, thanks, i saw the daily PPA but based on its name I assume that's hardly usable on a production system...
[01:24] <xangua> bonhoffer: reading the post and the ppa web helps ;)
[01:24] <itaylor57> bonhoffer, it tells you on the page i sent how to enable the ppa
[01:24] <gogeta> bonhoffer: ubuntu sstore is suppoed to be the new synaptic but you can reinstall it
[01:24] <tomreyn> s/usable/suitable/
[01:25] <noomy_> had to step afk kantlivelong - any ideas?
[01:25] <MonkeyDust> and if the problem is you, it's called PEBKAC, problem exists between keyboard and chair
[01:25] <bonhoffer> gogeta, in sstore i couldn't see how to add sources
[01:25] <noomy_> ^
[01:25] <noomy_> most common PC error
[01:25] <bonhoffer> xangua, reading it now
[01:25] <jhjh> the problem is in ubuntu
[01:25] <gogeta> bonhoffer: i stuck to what i knew so i just installed syanptic
[01:25] <MonkeyDust> jhjh: nobody forces you to use ubuntu
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: so what, your fstab file just magically changed itself?
[01:26] <jhjh> tonyyarusso, yes, by your ubuntu os
[01:26] <noomy_> going to ask my question again to the channel in general - i have this jnlp file that acts as a launcher (java file) - i can double click to run it - but cant get it to work in a terminal
[01:26] <noomy_> the goal is to create a quick launcher script
[01:26] <gogeta> tonyyarusso: now some programs will in fact play with fstab
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: No no, *your* Ubuntu.  Mine still works fine.
[01:26] <kantlivelong> noomy_: javaws --version
[01:26] <noomy_> so i can have a "shortcut"
[01:26] <noomy_> moment
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> gogeta: Only if you run them.
[01:27] <noomy_> ........"invalid jnlp file -- version" what the heck is wrong with my linux
[01:27] <gogeta> jhjh: so what happond you fstab has been alterd?
[01:27] <kantlivelong> noomy_: nothing.. my memory :P
[01:27] <kantlivelong> noomy_: javawd FILENAME
[01:27] <kantlivelong> plz
[01:27] <kantlivelong> gah
[01:27] <kantlivelong> noomy_: javaws FILENAME
[01:27] <noomy_> do i need to cd into directory ?
[01:28] <kantlivelong> noomy_: no use the full path ifu   want
[01:28] <jhjh> gogeta, ubuntu init segfaults
[01:28] <MonkeyDust> jhjh: you want us to fall on our knees and admit that ubuntu is no good?
[01:28] <kantlivelong> jhjh: reinstall?
[01:28] <escott> is there any way to make /ignore ignore messages with a username in them instead of just ignoring the user himself?
[01:28] <gogeta> jhjh: outch a segfault normaly is not due to fstab
[01:28] <noomy_> kantlivelong: success! \o/
[01:28] <kantlivelong> noomy_: :P
[01:29] <noomy_> kantlivelong: now, why would it download the files every single time ?
[01:29] <gogeta> jhjh: i only say segfaults on failing hardware bad hdd etc
[01:29] <itaylor57> bonhoffer, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java &&  sudo apt-get update
[01:29] <bonhoffer> itaylor57, got it -- thanks
[01:29] <noomy_> it pops up a small download window with progress bars and i have to DL the client each time
[01:29] <kantlivelong> noomy_: idk thats up to your java file :P
[01:29] <noomy_> but on windows it'd go in yer temp cache
[01:29] <jhjh> leave your hardware excuses, the problem lies in your ubuntu OS
[01:29] <noomy_> kantlivelong: any suggestions on how to config openJDK ? i cant find a gui
[01:29] <kantlivelong> jhjh: stop whining and reinstall..
[01:29] <pehden> lol
[01:29] <MonkeyDust> jhjh: you can report bugs on launchpad
[01:29] <jhjh> and I cannot reinstall it each 2 days, I need it back to work
[01:30] <qin> escott: in irssi, trigger.pl can do it
[01:30] <kantlivelong> jhjh: then use windows
[01:30] <MonkeyDust> irssi rules
[01:30] <gogeta> jhjh: linux normaly keeps running for a long time on a bad dd untill the drive totaly dies then segfault reinstalling windows will probly crash to
[01:30] <gogeta> hdd
[01:30] <jhjh> kantlivelong, want report?
[01:30] <gogeta> jhjh: have at it thow
[01:30] <d_m> hey everyone, quick question
[01:30] <kantlivelong> jhjh: uh?
[01:30] <d_m> since oneiric upgrade wireless is super flaky... want to try booting the earlier kernel.
[01:31] <d_m> but i can't figure out how to get hte grub menu to show up
[01:31] <d_m> any advice on how to change /etc/grub.d to create get the grub menu to display?
[01:31] <noomy_> qin - gogeta - kantlivelong - escott - you guys are awesome - thank you so much for all the help
[01:31] <noomy_> what does "name++" do in IRC, is it a reward?
[01:32] <AbuMaia> I've figured out my problem with my bash script. It wasn't a problem comparing the times, it was a problem with the format. My '6:30' time needed to be '06:30' to compare properly with the current time %R. Problem solved. Thanks qin and tonyyarusso for your assistance
[01:32] <kantlivelong> noomy_: no prob... no idea :)
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> AbuMaia: ah
[01:32] <noomy_> ah saw someone do it after saying thanks thought it might be some mod staff rating system
[01:32] <noomy_> anyway i'll get outa your collective hair - thanks again guys, appreciate the effort
[01:32] <guidov> trying to compile a C++ program into a 32-bit binary, i get linking error. apparently this should be resolved by installing a certain package,  but this won't install. http://pastebin.com/uXvsfJXz
[01:32] <trism> tomreyn: yes, probably best to wait. the fix is at commit 758 upstream, but there hasn't been a release with the fix yet
[01:32] <jhjh> leaving aside the question why ubuntu segfailts while every other Linux installation works fine, I want to kniow what happened and how to return my installation to working state
[01:32] <escott> noomy_, it does nothing
[01:33] <qin> noomy_: On some channels, maybe, here we give !cookie, sometimes
[01:33] <Chaser> d_m, hold shift during boot ...
[01:33] <d_m> Chaser: tried that... it wasn't working
[01:33] <kantlivelong> jhjh: welp... whats the error?
[01:33] <gogeta> jhjh: reinstall but you have something else wrong segfaults are almost always hardware failer
[01:33] <noomy_> well you all deserve cookies - really appreciate it
[01:33] <kantlivelong> noomy_: :P
[01:33] <MonkeyDust> jhjh: if you have more than one pc, you can ssh to the not-working pc, backup and reinstall
[01:33] <noomy_> !cookie kantlivelong
[01:33]  * kantlivelong nom
[01:34] <jhjh> i CANNOT reinstall
[01:34] <noomy_> hahaha fail - cya guys ;)
[01:34] <d_m> Chaser: i tried escape and shift.
[01:34] <kantlivelong> jhjh: i still havent seen the error..
[01:34] <gogeta> kantlivelong: ubuntu init segfault
[01:34] <yagoo> jhjh, did you call santa claus? Cuse i heard he uses ubuntu.
[01:34] <jhjh> error is segfault in init
[01:34] <Chaser> d_m, /etc/default/grub ?
[01:35] <kantlivelong> gogeta: thats literally the segfault error?
[01:35] <gogeta> kantlivelong: yea
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> jhjh: You'll need to analyze what things you ran, installed, or changed, and what log files say, from the last two days, to establish what happened.
[01:36] <MonkeyDust> jhjh: is this link useful? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11343584#post11343584
[01:36] <gogeta> kantlivelong: oh i dunno but i knoe a segfault normaly meaning some hardware has failed he just doesent like that answer
[01:36] <kantlivelong> jhjh: gogeta can just replace init...
[01:37] <gogeta> kantlivelong: jhjh has the error
[01:37] <dr3mro> hello , I am new to linux programming and I want to create a package for ubuntu contains some files to extract on certain paths on my system .. i did create the deb file using dpkg-deb but I need to create a PPA for that can you hel me :)
[01:37] <kantlivelong> jhjh: gogeta it could be the initrd
[01:37] <yagoo> dr3mro, all that data info should be on the launchpad site
[01:38] <gogeta> jhjh: there you go if you had a bad kernel update you can boot the old kernel if you have not uninstalled it
[01:38] <yagoo> dr3mro, maybe #ubuntu-devel might help
[01:38] <gogeta> jhjh: just hit esc at boot it should be in the menu
[01:38] <dr3mro> yagoo, thnx
[01:39] <jhjh> gogeta, I have the only kernel from installation time
[01:39] <yagoo> np
[01:39] <rodhash> Hello guys, is there any way to customize the window colours / fonts in xfce as we have in gnome??
[01:40] <yagoo> jhjh, i see alot of other people progressing here. For the whole time you've been whining you could of restored your broken system.
[01:40] <gogeta> rodhash: yes fce has themes
[01:40] <gogeta> xfce
[01:40] <gogeta> rodhash: should be some to slect from
[01:40] <caoxiaomin> 有中国人吗。
[01:41] <dr3mro> yagoo, can you just help me .. plz just direct me to page that can help
[01:41] <xangua> !cn | caoxiaomin
[01:41] <reo> rodhash: Right Click -> Appearance
[01:41] <caoxiaomin> OK,old 外
[01:41] <reo> Rightclick on the desktop
[01:41] <xangua> dr3mro: launchpad.net ¿
[01:41] <rodhash> Not themes, I mean some tools to choose colours / fonts as we have in gnome.. and in appearance I didn't find it
[01:42] <reo> and for the window border: Rightclick > settings > Window manager
[01:42] <gogeta> rodhash: its in the setting panel and window settings
[01:43] <jhjh> this channel is useless
[01:43] <shintaku> which do i want to use for an IRC server:  ircd-hybrid or dancer-ircd?
[01:43] <rodhash> Odd, in the WindowManager nothing appears, I'm wondering if it's because of emerald
[01:43] <shintaku> it will be for internal use
[01:43] <dr3mro> xangua, i have searched and i am very tired .. plz i just want to make a ppa for a non excutable deb file just contains files that i need to extract on any system
[01:43] <shintaku> but on a vps
[01:44] <gogeta> dr3mro: why would you need a ppa for that
[01:44] <ace36> hello i need how to fiend a file in xubuntu
[01:44] <gogeta> dr3mro: just install deb from the ubuntu store thats how you install 3rd party debs now
[01:44] <deper29> disconnect
[01:45] <ace36> hola alguien habla espanol
[01:45] <escott> !es | ace36
[01:45] <gogeta> !es
[01:45] <dr3mro> gogeta,  i am creating some scripts and link them to nautilus action so i can enhance nautilus usablility .. i just want to creat a ppa for my deb file .. i have the deb and i can send it to you to review
[01:46] <ace36> alguien sabe como busar archivos en xubuntu
[01:46] <HSP> Any folks here work at a corporation in the US that has deployed Ubuntu as a standard OS?
[01:46] <gogeta> dr3mro: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[01:47] <kantlivelong> lol @ jhjh.. i was gonna help him.. o well.. brat
[01:47] <E_Roc> Hi, I want to install ubuntu on this old laptop of mine because windows xp is giving me a headache on it.
[01:47] <E_Roc> Where
[01:47] <LinoSP> ace36: usa el comando locate :P
[01:47] <bonhoffer> i'm trying to use compiz grid , but ctl+alt+kp4 doesn't work
[01:47] <E_Roc> Where can I find an older version of ubuntu for my old laptop
[01:47] <daniel_> anyone know a 7zip gui, that support all compression options?
[01:47] <ace36> ok deja intento
[01:47] <gogeta> E_Roc: older?
[01:48] <xangua> daniel_: file roller, already on ubuntu
[01:48] <E_Roc> Yes, it's  a thinkpad x40
[01:48] <gogeta> E_Roc: ok so have fun lol
[01:48] <daniel_> yea, but file roller don't allow specify compress options
[01:48] <kantlivelong> E_Roc: try xbuntu
[01:48] <daniel_> I mean compression level
[01:48] <kantlivelong> E_Roc: although its a little more involved
[01:49] <E_Roc> what do you mean by a little more involved?
[01:49] <reo> E_Roc: How adept are you with Linux?
[01:49] <E_Roc> I just installed it on my laptop a few weeks ago and im loving it
[01:49] <E_Roc> so im in experianced =P
[01:49] <gogeta> E_Roc: oh lol so your all set
[01:49] <reo> E_Roc: Yeah, use Xubuntu, or Lubuntu
[01:50] <E_Roc> lubuntu?! i didnt even know that existed
[01:50] <E_Roc> lmao
[01:50] <gogeta> E_Roc: yea unity  isnt that great
[01:50] <kantlivelong> E_Roc: xbuntu uses fluxbox so its a window manager w/ command line.. no desktop icons and such.. very low on resource usage
[01:50] <gogeta> kantlivelong: incorrect xubuntu uses xfce4
[01:50] <kantlivelong> gogeta: im actually debating on going back to gentoo :(
[01:50] <xangua> kantlivelong: E_Roc xubuntu does not use fluxbox, uses xfce desktop
[01:50] <kantlivelong> gogeta: err doh fluxbuntu :P
[01:50] <reo> E_Roc: lol yeah I used to use ubuntu before Unity, then I jumped to Mint now im rocking CrunchBang and loving it
[01:50] <kantlivelong> xfce is good tho :P
[01:51] <reo> xfce is fast and light
[01:51] <xangua> kantlivelong: there is no fluxbuntu, there is lubuntu with usex blackbox i believe
[01:51] <gogeta> xfce is gnome 2 basly these days
[01:51] <xangua> lxde*
[01:51] <ace36> ok muchas gracias LinoSp
[01:51] <kantlivelong> xangua: http://fluxbuntu.org/ there was :P
[01:51] <E_Roc> ok so a 11.10 version of xubuntu on laptop with 512 gb RAM and 60 gb hdd?
[01:51] <reo> all you have to do is right-click your desktop and you can access everything
[01:51] <E_Roc> would work excellent on my pc?
[01:51] <reo> Oh yeah that's fine
[01:51] <luciana> hello peoples
[01:51] <xangua> kantlivelong: lates release was from 2009 i believe
[01:51] <gogeta> E_Roc: lubuntu on that ldy
[01:51] <gogeta> oldy
[01:52] <luciana> helloooooo
[01:52] <gogeta> E_Roc: lubuntu is lightwight
[01:52] <reo> The reason Ubuntu may seem slow is because GNOME takes alot more resources
[01:52] <kantlivelong> why must i be comparing usability to build time :(
[01:52] <xangua> kantlivelong: 7.10 even older i thought :/
[01:52] <luciana> my xubuntu is beaultifull
[01:52] <gogeta> kantlivelong: cough arch
[01:52] <daniel_> Lubuntu 11.04 is the best
[01:52] <reo> Lubuntu or xubuntu will be fine for that machine
[01:52] <kantlivelong> gogeta: meh.. i like to stick to the original
[01:52] <luciana> xubuntu is the best
[01:53] <haylo_> slim your ubuntu down a bit- disabable bluetooth at startup etc.
[01:53] <gogeta> kantlivelong: arch isnt soure lol
[01:53] <gogeta> kantlivelong: pacman for the win
[01:53] <E_Roc> how is mint though?
[01:53] <reo> BUT I personally would reccomend Crunchbang though it's too technical
[01:53] <reo> Mint is cool, I really like it
[01:53] <gogeta> E_Roc: mint lxde is win
[01:53] <haylo_> im using crunchbang and ununtu
[01:53] <kantlivelong> gogeta: i like controlling my deps tho..
[01:53] <haylo_> crunchbang is awesome
[01:53] <reo> ikr
[01:53] <SwiftDark> mint....
[01:54] <gogeta> kantlivelong: you can w pacman hehe
[01:54] <reo> Mint is full of Unity refugees lol
[01:54] <kantlivelong> gogeta: tetris :P
[01:54] <Consty> Anyone know the issue with the latest ATI drivers 11.10 being installed on Ubuntu 11.10 and not working? Keeps reporting libGL.so.1 cannot be found, but it's in /usr/lib32 and lib64. Very strange.
[01:54] <SwiftDark> God needs a starship.
[01:54] <luciana> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, hellooooooooooooooo
[01:54] <kantlivelong> or lbreakout.. haha.. gotta compile it first..
[01:54] <SwiftDark> ./b/
[01:54] <luciana> =/
[01:54] <Consty> reo: I gave Unity one day of my time and watched a review on it.. it's actually pretty slick and I like it.
[01:55] <haylo_> truly i have to send people to mint until ubuntu gets back on track- and stops being phonbuntu
[01:55] <ace36> tengo otro problema instale ubuntu en una maquina que tengo pero quize instalar radiotray y le di en poner icono en la area de notificacion y ya no habre el programa como le hago para que funcione
[01:55] <luciana> Que bom, ninguem fala comigo
[01:55] <ace36> es ubuntu 11.10
[01:55] <gogeta> Consty: run it on older hardware and watch it lag and crash
[01:55] <kantlivelong> Consty: it runs like ass for me :/
[01:55] <MonkeyDust> reo: i'm one of them
[01:55] <kantlivelong> im on a netbook.. it shouldnt run like this..
[01:55] <xangua> !pt | luciana
[01:55] <Consty> kandinski: Huh.. is that it? so that's why everyone is running mint then.. not necessarily the L&F of it but rather it's stability and performance problems?
[01:55] <luciana> ubuntu 11.11 unity fica muito travado no netbook
[01:55] <reo> consty: The main reason im staying away from unity is that for one im using #! and im very minimalist
[01:55] <Consty> maybe that's why I'm having issues with ATI
[01:55] <gogeta> kantlivelong: yea or a netbook
[01:55] <luciana> mudei para xubuntu
[01:56] <luciana> a arquitetura é mais leve
[01:56] <kantlivelong> even gnome 3... wtf no more usage applet!?!?!
[01:56] <haylo_> ii run unity because my computer is lightning fast and its pretty but xub or lub is better for even i3 comps
[01:56] <SwiftDark> root mac, instal linux, ???, Profit
[01:56] <gogeta> kantlivelong: one of the reasins im in the arch camp very light
[01:56] <luciana> my god
[01:57] <escott> !br | luciana
[01:57] <kantlivelong> gogeta: i keep hearing about it... idk tho
[01:57] <MonkeyDust> madredeus
[01:57] <gogeta> kantlivelong: instal what you need/whant and done no extra bs
[01:57] <reo> kantlivelong: Arch is a bit too "High Level" for most beginners
[01:57] <gogeta> kantlivelong: yea its a bit  of a urv to install for the newb but there wiki is insanly well documented
[01:57] <SwiftDark> Windows would like to instal 30 usless programs? Good? No? Screw you, its already done...
[01:57] <reo> Esp. for those coming from ubuntu
[01:58] <gogeta> reo: not if they can type and read
[01:58] <ubuntuman> Hello to everyone
[01:58] <E_Roc> which should i download lubuntu minimal or lubuntu alternate?
[01:58] <SwiftDark> Hello, Ubuntuman
[01:58] <bsmith093> will net rpc commands work properly lif the other computers on my network have blank passwords?
[01:58] <kantlivelong> gogeta: perhaps freebsd
[01:58] <ubuntuman> Hi SwiftDark
[01:59] <gogeta> kantlivelong: archbang is a light prebuilt arch
[01:59] <xangua> !ot | kantlivelong gogeta reo
[01:59] <reo> gogeta: Most people dont want to go through all of that, sadly, they would rather have bloatware that has most of what they want instead of a slim system they have to actually work for :P
[01:59] <kantlivelong> xangua: oops :) ran away with the topic
[01:59] <Consty> So everyone's gone to Linux Mint vs Kubuntu?
[01:59] <reo> Sorry haha
[01:59] <haylo_> they want to "just use" the computer- but really the computer is "just using them" reo
[02:00] <escott> E_Roc, is there a reason you can't use the gui? the alternate is a text installer, but will install the normal system, the minimal will install a minimal no-gui system
[02:00] <gogeta> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/
[02:00] <qmanjr5> So uh....Empathy isn't connecting my Hotmail account
[02:00] <qmanjr5> Login details are proper
[02:00] <E_Roc> the thing is my laptop doesnt have a CD tray so the onlyway i can install is via pendrive
[02:00] <xangua> qmanjr5: give thanks to microsoft, they like to play with it's closed protocol ;)
[02:01] <gogeta> E_Roc: just use unetbootin and make a usb image
[02:01] <gogeta> E_Roc: in fact it can even download the iso for you
[02:01] <reo> Consty: Well most people are going to Mint or *buntus other than ubuntu
[02:01] <qmanjr5> xangua, so what the bloody hell do I do? D:
[02:01] <xangua> !ot | Consty reo
[02:01] <xangua> qmanjr5: don't know, i use latest pidgin with no problems with msn
[02:01] <qmanjr5> Ugh
[02:01] <gogeta> reo: yep lubuntu netbook hear a arch desktop
[02:01] <E_Roc> nuce
[02:01] <E_Roc> thanks guys
[02:02] <xangua> i read also emesene released a  version that 'fixes it' qmanjr5
[02:02] <pocata> people want to Istria python 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 how to remove someone to help
[02:02] <sunj> why here
[02:02] <qmanjr5> xangua, just gunna get Pidgin. Much better anyway
[02:02] <pocata> people want to remove python 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 how to remove someone to help
[02:03] <ubuntuman> What's the topic of the Day?
[02:03] <pocata> ?
[02:03] <E_Roc> with a centrino processor i should download the x86  ?
[02:03] <gogeta> E_Roc: ye
[02:03] <E_Roc> thx
[02:04] <pocata> :?
[02:04] <pocata> pls help
[02:04] <qmanjr5> pocata, stop spamming. Someone will assist you in due time.
[02:04] <reo> Does your unbuntu distro have Sympatic package manager?
[02:05] <reo> Or was it removed from the latest version, I forget
[02:05] <xangua> reo: it no longer comes preinstaled
[02:05] <xangua> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:05] <pocata> ok
[02:05] <reo> Well that's lame lol, after you install that ^  just search for that package
[02:06] <ubuntu_> anyone have the xubuntu 11.10 installer crash?
[02:06] <qmanjr5> I'm pretty sure we have a package manager...
[02:06] <qmanjr5> Why would he need to install Synaptic?
[02:06] <qmanjr5> We have another one
[02:06] <xangua> qmanjr5: pocata someone will if you explain clear your problem :/ why uninstall python¿
[02:06] <pocata> i for ubuntu 11.10
[02:06] <ubuntu_> my installer just crashes after setting up my account
[02:06] <qmanjr5> xangua, why did you just tag me?
[02:06] <xangua> qmanjr5: because people is free to use what they want to
[02:07] <escott> pocata, sudo apt-get remove python-2.7.2-7ubuntu2
[02:07] <qmanjr5> Um...You literally just TOLD him to install it, when you could've just told him to open the package manager he has
[02:07] <ubuntu_> anyone using the newest xubuntu here?
[02:07] <pocata> for a program that does not want to because tragne
[02:08] <E_Roc> gogeta are you from tibia?
[02:09] <Consty> tibia, holy crap
[02:09] <haylo_> ubuntu_ i use xubuntu 11.04 some it doesnt seem like it changed?
[02:10] <GeekComp> #debian
[02:11] <reo> Does anyone else use an font other than sans for their desktop font?
[02:11] <qmanjr5> I use Comic Sans
[02:11] <qmanjr5> inb4rage
[02:11] <reo> trololol
[02:11] <qmanjr5> =3
[02:12] <E_Roc> my machine is not reading my pendrive, what should i do?
[02:12] <reo> It's hard to find a font that fits as a desktop font =/
[02:12] <njn___> test
[02:12] <qmanjr5> E_Roc, is it mounted?
[02:12] <jmcantrell> what ppa do i need for firefox 8?
[02:12] <escott> E_Roc, does the bios have an option to boot the usb
[02:12] <kantlivelong> is it possible to install stock gnome 3?
[02:12] <xangua> !fx6 | jmcantrell
[02:12] <E_Roc> yes, but its just not booting it because it doesnt read it..
[02:12] <escott> kantlivelong, install gnome-shell
[02:13] <jmcantrell> xangua: seriously?
[02:13] <E_Roc> the machine is a windows xp
[02:13] <xangua> jmcantrell: well there is no factoid for fx8
[02:13] <kantlivelong> escott: im looking for more of the gnome3 stock look... as it is on the site :P
[02:13] <xangua> the ppa is the same, you'll get lates fx stable from it
[02:14] <jeiworth> jmcantrell: i'm using ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[02:14] <E_Roc> what do you mean by mounted?
[02:14] <jmcantrell> xangua: the last package built in that ppa was 6 weeks ago
[02:14] <xangua> jmcantrell: then wait
[02:14] <qmanjr5> Oh Jesus H. Christ....
[02:14] <escott> E_Roc, my understanding is that usb boot depends on the bios, and not all bioses like to boot usb. if yours is older that could be the problem
[02:14] <qmanjr5> Someone tell E_Roc about mounting
[02:14] <reo> E_Roc: I think there was a problem when you made the USB
[02:14] <qmanjr5> E_Roc, oooh. You made a live USB?
[02:14] <reo> If you can burn it to CD then maybe that would work
[02:15] <E_Roc> i can read the usb from my real laptop
[02:15] <escott> kantlivelong, thats just a theme issue. try gnome-tweak-tool
[02:15] <E_Roc> but not my older
[02:15] <E_Roc> and i cant burn it on a cd because my older machine doesnt have a cd drive
[02:15] <haylo_> you can make a live cd and then make your usb inside of that os E_Roc
[02:15] <reo> Most older laptops cant boot from usb
[02:15] <escott> E_Roc, you mean it will boot on your laptop but not the older machine
[02:15] <E_Roc> live cd?
[02:15] <reo> most of them can boot from CD though
[02:15] <celltech> Are any of the "boost internet speed" tips in the ubuntu forums safe and reliable?
[02:15] <E_Roc> yes
[02:15] <reo> Oh
[02:15] <E_Roc> escott_ yes
[02:16] <xangua> celltech: want faster internet¿ get a faster one with your provider ;)
[02:16] <escott> E_Roc, then almost certainly the bios doesnt know how to boot a usb device. what boot options do you have on the old machine
[02:16] <WIGGMPk> Using hostapd to make my laptop a router, xbox 360 works (connected via WiFi, resolves DNS and connects to live) then drops connection after a while, any help?
[02:16] <celltech> xangua. Well I was reading that some file could limit speeds though the OS and you can edit it to lighten the restrictions
[02:16] <E_Roc> i have the option to boot form usb its just that it doesnt know anythigns there
[02:17] <E_Roc> it reads my ipod fine just not the pen drive
[02:17] <escott> E_Roc, you can try some different ways of setting up the usb device. the usb can pretend to be a cd and have an eltorito boot sector, or it can pretend to be a hard disk and have an mbr, or it can have a combination of these. you can try things like unetbootin to configure it differently
[02:17] <haylo_> well keep trying E_roc. and consider going to the library to make a couple start up discs
[02:18] <E_Roc> escott, ill try downloading unetbootin.
[02:19] <E_Roc> haylo_ , a CD is usless to me
[02:19] <haylo_> it can read it?
[02:21] <jmcantrell> anyone know how to get firefox 8?
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> jmcantrell: the beta?
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> alpha, beta, whatever it is
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> oh, nvm - it's out
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> jmcantrell: getfirefox.com
[02:22] <jmcantrell> ppa?
[02:22] <Generalcamo> My installer will not run on Wine, it says that it is a broken installer, yet it is perfectly fine filewise
[02:23] <xangua> jmcantrell: you can download, extract and run fx8 from firefox.com right now....or wait for the ppa ;)
[02:23] <jmcantrell> xangua: which ppa will have it when it gets added?
[02:23] <jeiworth> hmm i got the 8 on my other machine yesterday, thought i had the stable there too...
[02:23] <xangua> jmcantrell: firefox-stable ppa
[02:23] <jmcantrell> jeiworth: what ppa do you use?
[02:24] <jmcantrell> xangua: that one from ubottu doesn't have any packages for oneiric
[02:24] <jeiworth> jmcantrell: let me check, have to get it
[02:24] <pushpop> if my shell freezes how do I restart it from command line
[02:24] <kantlivelong> okay.. gnome3 stock > unity
[02:24] <xangua> i think oneiric users will get it from ubuntu repositories jmcantrell...so you still have to wait
[02:24] <pushpop> kandinski agreed but gnome3 freezes for me
[02:24] <kantlivelong> i cant believe it
[02:26] <jeiworth> jmcantrell: looks like mozilla security ppa
[02:26] <escott> Generalcamo, check the wine application database for compatibility
[02:26] <jmcantrell> jeiworth: ok
[02:28] <skpl> me
[02:30] <jeiworth> jmcantrell: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[02:30] <jmcantrell> jeiworth: thanks :)
[02:30] <jeiworth> jmcantrell: you're welcome :)
[02:31] <Generalcamo> Took a while
[02:31] <Generalcamo> Yes, it is in the PLATINUM database
[02:31] <jmcantrell> jeiworth: weird. why does that ppa have chromium?
[02:31] <Generalcamo> Tiberian Sun
[02:31] <Generalcamo> Installer
[02:32] <User854> hi
[02:33] <theborger> anoyne suggest a hardware raid card? that will work with 10.04?
[02:33] <User357> hi
[02:34] <escott> theborger, check the kernels dmraid supported chipsets
[02:35] <User357> I am connected to the internet with ubuntu 10.04 can only open local websites
[02:36] <WIGGMPk> User357 check to see if your web browser is trying to use a proxy
[02:36] <escott> theborger, this lists a few chipsets http://people.redhat.com/heinzm/sw/dmraid/readme
[02:36] <Ibis> Is it by any chance possible to just debootstrap to replace your current Operating system?
[02:37] <theborger> escott: thanks
[02:37] <yui-p1ug_> ne1 know how to get back the classic desktop toolbar/launcher
[02:38] <pentacle> its set up without a proxy
[02:38] <esoul> Hey, ubuntu 11.10 user wondering if anyone else has tried to usbip on 11.10.  I cant seem to get the kernel modules for usbip to install/load.  They dont exist after apt-get install usbip
[02:39] <escott> theborger, i think those are all ATA fakeraid bios. can't find the master list for PCI cards for hardware raid
[02:40] <theborger> escott: ill dig throught the kernel
[02:41] <dijonyummy> whats my problem with sudo: i put "username  ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL" via "sudo visudo" but it still often asks me for my password when i do some sudo command. whats the issue?
[02:41] <Neldogz> Does anyone know how to turn on verbosity while ubuntu is booting?
[02:41] <xangua> dijonyummy: doesn't sound like a good idea to not wanna use password ;)
[02:42] <prototrout> I'm having an odd wireless networking issue: my Ubuntu laptop connects to the AP fine, gets an IP, the icon and ifconfig show it as connected; but can't ping anything (not even the router). This is only happening today. Any suggestions on where to start digging?
[02:42] <_s3gfault> Neldogz, remove quiet from kernel boot line in grub
[02:42] <escott> Neldogz, modify /etc/default/grub to noquiet nosplash
[02:42] <escott> Neldogz, then rerun update-grub
[02:43] <Neldogz> _s3gfault: i used grub customizer and removed quiet splash, saved it and rebooted
[02:43] <Neldogz> thank you escott, i am going to give that a shot
[02:44] <dijonyummy> xangua: so in ubuntu 11.10 i cant avoid putting password?  i think in 10.10 i set it up do not require password.
[02:46] <qin> prototrout: /etc/resolv.conf also ping 8.8.8.8
[02:48] <prototrout> qin: Can't ping 8.8.8.8; /etc/resolv.conf is (slash is newline): # Generated by NetworkManager/domain Belkin/search Belkin/nameserver 192.168.2.1
[02:48] <aroman> what's the Ubuntu equivalent of /dev/audio?
[02:48] <aroman> /dev/snd/by-path/*?
[02:48] <qin> prototrout: And what isyour ip (lan's)
[02:49] <prototrout> qin: my ip is 192.168.2.3, router/ap is 192.168.2.1
[02:49] <escott> prototrout, check the output of route
[02:49] <bjrohan> I have just installed Ubuntu 11.10, I am connected to a cicso router using DD-WRT. What is the best security setting for fastest access? I was running Ubuntu 10.04 for a while, and since I upgraded to 11.10, internet seems to be slower
[02:50] <Neldogz> escott: like this ? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash"
[02:50] <dluzius> how do I make the battery indicator visible in Ocelot?
[02:50] <_s3gfault> dijonyummy, try it this way user ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL
[02:50] <escott> dluzius, please stop coming on here every night to ask the same question
[02:51] <escott> dluzius, you have your answer it won't change
[02:51] <prototrout> escott: default gateway is the router, "link-local" has gateway * and genmaks 255.255.0.0, 192.168.2.0 has gateway * and genmask 255.255.255.0 (need any other fields?)
[02:51] <escott> dluzius, you are wasting everyones time
[02:51] <xangua> dluzius: already check on energy settings¿
[02:51] <xangua> escott: drop that attitude
[02:51] <escott> xangua, he has been on here three nights in a row, with a known acpi bug, the only fix for which is a kernel recompile
[02:52] <thiebaude> xangua, agree
[02:52] <escott> xangua, if you want to walk him through the recompile feel free to do so but its the same question every night
[02:52] <dluzius> no, escott is right, I am like a stuck record
[02:52] <xangua> acpi is neither a friend of mine :/
[02:52] <phlak_user> bjrohan: wpa2-personal with AES
[02:52] <bjrohan> Thank you :-)
[02:53] <escott> Neldogz, thats correct
[02:53] <Neldogz> thank you sir!
[02:53] <escott> dluzius, i wish there was a better answer than that but you are on hardware that just isnt supported fully right now. hopefully in a few months it might be better
[02:54] <escott> prototrout, that sounds correct, can you ping 192.168.2.1
[02:55] <pushpop> I'm running gnome 3 and it keeps locking up on me after about 15 minutes of being logged in
[02:55] <pushpop> any idea's?
[02:55] <WIGGMPk> are you doing anything at all during lockup?
[02:55] <phlak_user> pushpop: by locking up, do you mean - mouse freezes, screen becomes unresponsive etc etc?
[02:55] <prototrout> escott: Nope.
[02:55] <bjrohan> One more question. My audio is also garbled, both internet videos, CD's, as well as even the speaker test. Any idea why? I have selected all audio settings, the only one the works is analog stereo duplex
[02:56] <dhasenan_> Since installing 11.10, vim is slow as hell when starting, closing, and writing files. Any idea what's going on here?
[02:56] <phlak_user> dhasenan_: no
[02:56] <WIGGMPk> bjrohan try killing pulse audio "killall pulseaudio"
[02:56] <pushpop> phlak_user, yes thats exactly what I mean
[02:57] <phlak_user> pushpop: can you do a ctl+alt+f1 to get to text console and alt+f7 to get back?
[02:57] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: we need a bit more info, what are you doing at the time? are you attempting to search?
[02:57] <bjrohan> WIGGMPk - just did, still garbled :-(
[02:57] <dhasenan_> phlak_user, thanks. I'll wait for a few more responses before closing the polls.
[02:57] <prototrout> escott: I have Wireshark on the laptop and I'm seeing some traffic on that, just no replies to my packets (except ARP)
[02:58] <pushpop> phlak_user, I can ctl+alt+f1 to get to other consiles yes
[02:58] <bjrohan> WIGGMPk For a while it would work not garbled, but that was rare, so I know it is possible.
[02:58] <pushpop> phlak_user, just that session hangs
[02:58] <phlak_user> pushpop: and can you login to a text console and run top
[02:58] <escott> prototrout, sounds like you arent connected to the router
[02:59] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: do you have the "kill x-server" keyboard combo enabled? to restart gnome-shell
[02:59] <pushpop> phlak_user, yes
[02:59] <dhasenan_> And the results are in! With one respondent, nobody knows why vim might be slow. Thank you, and drive safe.
[02:59] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, i dont
[02:59] <hsp> Does anyone here work for a US corporation that has deployed Ubuntu to a considerable number of computers?
[02:59] <phlak_user> pushpop: now that top is running, can you press P to sort in decreasing order of cpu usage?
[02:59] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: are you using any custom gnome3 theme's or shells?
[02:59] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, yes
[03:00] <phlak_user> pushpop: and check the process at the top with highest usage (and how much)
[03:00] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: is that a custom gtk theme or a custom gnome-shell?
[03:00] <pushpop> phlak_user, not hung at the moment
[03:00] <aeon-ltd> hsp: ask in offtopic channel
[03:00] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, gtk theme
[03:01] <pushpop> phlak_user, seeing if there is a way to fix it from happening
[03:01] <phlak_user> pushpop: when does it become unresponsive?
[03:01] <lvidal_> hi
[03:01] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: go into your keyboard settings and enable the keyboard combo to restart x-server "ctrl + alt + backspace"
[03:01] <phlak_user> pushpop: you can do that if you can find out what is causing this to happen
[03:01] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, ok will do but how will that resolve the issue
[03:01] <WIGGMPk> 1 step at a time mate
[03:01] <lvidal_> the ubuntu server installs with graphical or in console mode?
[03:02] <pushpop> phlak_user, it seems to be happening for no reason
[03:02] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, ok
[03:02] <aeon-ltd> lvidal_: console
[03:02] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: after that is enabled, create the lock up (however you do it) then restart x (via the keyboard combo) log back in, check system monitor for "gnome-shell" (or anything using a lot of cpu usage %)
[03:02] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: do that and report back
[03:02] <lvidal_> aeon-ltd: great
[03:03] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, ok
[03:03] <aeon-ltd> lvidal_: its roughl the same, run through menus but keyboard only
[03:03] <aeon-ltd> lvidal_: after the install you can just install a graphical interface anyway
[03:03] <lvidal_> aeon-ltd: no, really, that's what I want, I'm not upset :D
[03:04] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, is that a custom shortcut
[03:04] <prototrout> escott: That would be odd. I see a DHCP ACK (which gives me my IP) but nothing after that from the router (except some things with the "SSDP" protocol every once in a while; don't think that's relevant)
[03:04] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, under keyboard
[03:04] <WIGGMPk> pushpop shouldnt be, your running ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10 right?
[03:04] <aeon-ltd> lvidal_: oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding :)
[03:05] <pushpop> 11.04
[03:05] <n0yd> is there a way to tell wubi install lubuntu instead?
[03:05] <n0yd> like a switch or something....
[03:05] <lvidal_> I want to install it on VMWARE and access it like a server from my host machine. I hope I can do that.
[03:06] <phlak_user> lvidal_: yes; you can use virtualbox too
[03:06] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, I see nothing with "ctrl + alt + backspace"
[03:06] <escott> n0yd, you can sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop after the install, or perhaps you can point wubi towards a different cd image (I don't know much about the wubi install process)
[03:06] <lvidal_> phlak_user: it is fast with virtualbox?
[03:06] <n0yd> meh
[03:06] <urlin2u> n0yd, no but you can instal ubuntu then install it lubuntu is a desktop realy on top of a little more basic ubuntu.
[03:06] <kantlivelong> is it possible to remove a wireless network in gnome3??
[03:06] <n0yd> ya im good on that
[03:07] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: go to Keyboard Layout > click the layouts tab > click the options button > select "key sequence to kill the x server"
[03:07] <n0yd> im just gonna burn lubuntu. i didnt wanna waste a cd
[03:07] <n0yd> lol
[03:07] <lvidal_> phlak_user: all I need is to set it as a develop web server, for testing before production
[03:07] <escott> n0yd, what does burning a cd have to do with wubi?
[03:07] <n0yd> escott, it saves me from burning a iso
[03:08] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, got it thx
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> lvidal_: Ubuntu Server is command-line-only.
[03:08] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: k now recreate the issue, restart x, log in, check to see who the culprit is
[03:08] <escott> n0yd, ok... there are some very important distinctions between a wubi system and a normal installed system
[03:08] <haylo_> n0yd wubi is not really for advanced users it is a tool for people with MS
[03:09] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, so I check whos hogging cpu?
[03:09] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: precisely
[03:09] <n0yd> haylo_, no shit. but this isnt for my pc. this is for another user.
[03:09] <aeon-ltd> tonyyarusso: from the base yes, after that anything goes
[03:09] <WIGGMPk> !language | n0yd
[03:09] <lvidal_> tonyyarusso: yep, I know, I don't need a graphical interface. In fact, I don't want a graphical interface. I'll be looking the websites on my host machine.
[03:11] <haylo_> ya n)yd what did someone send you here to ask there stupid questions for them lolz
[03:11] <WIGGMPk> quick question, is empathy really that horrible that there is no way to filter join/part messages?
[03:11] <n0yd> haylo_, im helping a new user
[03:12] <g0rs> is anybody playing sokoban or ksokoban ?
[03:12] <xangua> WIGGMPk: is very limited for irc
[03:13] <Flynsarmy> I have a backgrounds.xml file with a bg slideshow. It was working fine on 11.10 until i changed bg...now I can't find the option to change back to the slideshow and doing a gconftool-2 -t string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "/path/to/xml.xml" no longer works...any ideas?
[03:13] <WIGGMPk> xangua: seems to be limited all around.. thanks
[03:13] <haylo_> hey nOyd i thought lubuntu wasnt an official buntu yet- there may be some problems with wubi installer- does it install xub and kub allright?
[03:15] <reo> Is wibi like uNetbootin in terms of making a liveUSB?
[03:15] <haylo_> no reo it is a windows exe file for making a side by side linux MS install
[03:16] <prototrout> escott: Hmm, it looks like the router sent out the ACK multiple times (the request went out multiple times but the laptop only saw one ACK). Maybe the laptop's network card is just going flaky.
[03:16] <ariqs> what's the command in a terminal to see the free space on a drive? like /media/sda1
[03:17] <matlock> hey i said i'd never come back after getting advice that broke my system
[03:17] <matlock> well i came back
[03:17] <matlock> for one reason
[03:17] <matlock> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU
[03:17] <matlock> BITTCHES
[03:17] <FloodBot1> matlock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <WIGGMPk> I love how nobody takes responsibility any more, always point the finger
[03:19] <Flynsarmy> anyone know how to change bgs from the command line in 11.10?
[03:19] <bekor> anyone figure out how to run LOGMEIN in Ubuntu or know of a alternative?
[03:20] <reo> ariqs: $ df -h
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> bekor: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[03:21] <bekor> trying to view my computer from another and be able to used it when not at home
[03:21] <haria40> I am getting the following error when starting compiz http://pastebin.ca/2093244. Any help on this ?
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> bekor: Well, you can just use any combination of VNC client/server for that.
[03:22] <bekor> realy?
[03:22] <haria40> I am getting the following error when starting compiz http://pastebin.ca/2093244. Any help on this ?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Sure.  Things like LogMeIn are just trying to dumb things down for people who can't set up port forwarding on their router, basically.
[03:22] <bekor> not sure how that works
[03:22] <xangua> haria40: if you want to configure compiz on oneiric use 'compiz settings manager', not compiz icon
[03:23] <xangua> !ccsm | haria40
[03:23] <dijonyummy> _s3gfault: thanks, it worked, the visudo thing
[03:24] <bekor> so i would need vnc from the computer i was using also is that correct?
[03:24] <skpl> does anyone know how to get rid of the global menu that appears under the panel in gnome-shell when using a transparent theme in ubuntu 11.10?
[03:26] <thorn__> any tips to speed up ubuntu for older comps? No suggesting L or X please...
[03:26] <Ibis> Is there a page to obtain ubuntu server iso, via, FTP?
[03:26] <bekor> thorn you mean in ubuntu 11.10?
[03:27] <xangua> thorn__: noX then :P
[03:28] <haria40> Is there any way to increase the screen resolution on my laptop running Ubuntu 10.04 ? xrandr o/p : http://pastebin.ca/2093245
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> thorn__: Start off by running 2D versions of the interface.  Second, pick low-memory applications (which is what Lubuntu aims to do for you).  Third, put as much RAM in as you can.
[03:28] <iluminator101> is debian wheezy ubuntu natty?
[03:28] <bekor> hey folks anything better than scribus for ubuntu yet?
[03:28] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: you back yet?
[03:28] <Flannel> Ibis: ftp://releases.ubuntu.com
[03:28] <haria40> Is there any way to increase the screen resolution on my laptop running Ubuntu 10.04 ? xrandr o/p : http://pastebin.ca/2093245
[03:29] <thorn__> ok, I'll just common sense it...
[03:29] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, didn't lock up yet
[03:29] <WIGGMPk> ahh
[03:29] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, didnt lock up yet
[03:29] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: does it lock up when you search for seomthing
[03:29] <pushpop> via cli?
[03:31] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: know, you said your running gnome3? hit the super key (windows key) and start typing
[03:31] <thorn__> what sort of font rendering would be best for a slow computer? what sort of font should I then select for readability?
[03:32] <unkr> can anyone help me regarding  vnc ???
[03:32] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, didnt free haha, know its goign to be stable
[03:32] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, wierddddd
[03:32] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: wait, what happened?
[03:33] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, it's not locking up now
[03:34] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: well good
[03:35] <pushpop>  WIGGMPk ill stick aroun and let you know if it logs up =P
[03:35] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: my theory was that a gnome-shell-theme was the issue (however you said you were only using a gtk3 theme), I had a similar issue on lockups when searching.. it was theme related
[03:35] <hangingclowns> anyone know how to boot into grub or something?
[03:36] <hangingclowns> trying to reinstall ubuntu, unless someone knows how to fix my problem of fixing the apt-get
[03:36] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: cool, I might end up removing empathy completely and installing pidgin though (I'll let ya kjnow if I bounce) empathy is just... pathetic and disappointing
[03:36] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, grub is for booting to a OS what do you need?
[03:36] <hangingclowns> well, originally here's the problem
[03:36] <theadmin> WIGGMPk: Good idea
[03:36] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, kk
[03:37] <hangingclowns> urlin2u: it can't connect to ANY repository to download updates
[03:37] <theadmin> hangingclowns: Has nothing to do with grub, try changing your mirrors
[03:37] <hangingclowns> i did that
[03:37] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, are you familiar with changing the repos, ansd the apt/sources.list
[03:37] <WIGGMPk> theadmin: how did empathy ever get to replace pidgin lol?
[03:37] <thorn__> how do I disable the shadows in ubuntu 11.04?
[03:38] <hangingclowns> okay, what I was saying about grub, was that I was just going to reinstall ubuntu
[03:38] <theadmin> WIGGMPk: The decision was originally made because it's officially a part of GNOME
[03:38] <hangingclowns> and when I enter my bios, I choose the usb disk drive as the boot device
[03:38] <hangingclowns> but for some odd reason it seems to SKIP the drive and boot straight into my ubuntu on my local hdd
[03:38] <hangingclowns> so I thought if i can boot into grub, I can use grub to boot my USB drive, right?
[03:38] <WIGGMPk> theadmin: well, since telepathy I though, gaim was original correct?
[03:38] <hangingclowns> that's why i originally mentioned grub
[03:38] <theadmin> hangingclowns: You can, yeah
[03:39] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, no, you probably can fix the apt-get.
[03:39] <hangingclowns> okay
[03:39] <theadmin> WIGGMPk: Well, originally we had Pidgin/Gaim, I think it was removed in 9.10
[03:39] <hangingclowns> illl tell you the error of my ap-get
[03:39] <hangingclowns> i think it's trying to connect to my router's outside IP address
[03:39] <hangingclowns> instead of the source
[03:39] <theadmin> ...why do I say "we" like I'm an Ubuntu user lol xD
[03:40] <hangingclowns> urlin2u: 2% [Connecting to 58.247.100.206 (58.247.100.206)] [Connecting to 58.247.100.20
[03:40] <hangingclowns> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Unable to connect to 58.247.100.206:8080
[03:40] <hangingclowns> 58.247.100.206 is MY IP address
[03:40] <hangingclowns> how can I fix that?
[03:40] <unkr> hey can anyone tell me which is the best cross platform software for  remote display??
[03:41] <theadmin> unkr: TeamViewer I think.
[03:41] <hangingclowns> unkr: VNC
[03:41] <theadmin> unkr: Windows/OS X/Linux/Android/iOS
[03:41] <tonyyarusso> unkr: You want a protocol, not a piece of software.  There are plenty of VNC clients and servers for each platform.
[03:41] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, have you proxied your set up? I haven't had that problem others would know more.
[03:41] <hangingclowns> i have no idea what the hell she did  lol
[03:42] <hangingclowns> damn girl has everything wrong that i've also never had go wrong
[03:42] <hangingclowns> so I'd rather just wipe the install, and do a fresh install
[03:42] <hangingclowns> and lock her out of the sudoers group
[03:42] <hangingclowns> from the get-go
[03:42] <unkr> tonyyarusso: there is one problem when i connect to vncserver
[03:42] <unkr> tonyyarusso: i dont know that is the problem or i dont know it should i tell u ??
[03:42] <hammoommah> how do i setup this command to run every 5 mins? sudo chown Rv mythtv /media/media   ?
[03:43] <unkr> theadmin: thnxx
[03:43] <unkr> hangingclowns: thnxx
[03:43] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, if you want the bot from menu you can get it with a key prompt and common one is f12 to see the usb .
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> hammoommah: cron
[03:43] <urlin2u> boot*
[03:43] <theadmin> hammoommah: sudo nano /etc/crontab, w:crontab
[03:43] <hangingclowns> so i just hit f12 when I see the cursor?
[03:43] <theadmin> hammoommah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crontab
[03:43] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, this is a post bios boot from menu.
[03:43] <hammoommah> do i have to write bash script or will cron just run cmd?
[03:43] <hangingclowns> i'd like to just edit the grub menu and just have everything displayed on bootup
[03:43] <hangingclowns> okay, let me have a try, now, real quick
[03:43] <hangingclowns> thanks for helping me
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> hammoommah: cron will run it - just put in that command as what to run
[03:44] <hammoommah> lovely thanks chief
[03:44] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, I can't gaurantee f12 will work but there is a key or key set prompt hit like you would going to the bios at powering on.
[03:44] <theadmin> hammoommah: (without sudo)
[03:45] <hangingclowns> nothing
[03:45] <hangingclowns> doesn't work
[03:45] <theadmin> hammoommah: And you forgot a - before "Rv"
[03:45] <hangingclowns> i pressed that key SO much
[03:45] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, what is the computer the model and maker?
[03:45] <theadmin> hangingclowns: Are you sure that your USB is, infact, bootable?
[03:45] <alexluya> Hello,copy progress indicator missing in 11.10 gnome,how can I get it back?
[03:45] <hangingclowns> i did see some black text come up, but still went to ubuntu
[03:45] <hangingclowns> yes, i just made it with my other ubuntu machine
[03:45] <hangingclowns> the bios reads it as USB bootbale drive
[03:45] <unkr> hangingclowns: will u tell me that will it display the same desktop in which i enable the vncserver or it will display the another desktop ???
[03:45] <hangingclowns> something liek that
[03:45] <theadmin> hangingclowns: Ah, cool... Hm.
[03:46] <theadmin> unkr: Try TeamViewer, honestly, it's a piece of cake to use and not as confusing as VNC
[03:46] <hangingclowns> VNC is not so confusing i think
[03:46] <theadmin> hangingclowns: For some newbies it is
[03:46] <hangingclowns> whatever machien you want to see, just have the VNC server running on it
[03:46] <hangingclowns> ubuntu makes a lot of this stuff simple
[03:46] <prototrout> Well, whatever my problem was, it's fixed now. *shrug*
[03:46] <hangingclowns> and Mac uses VNC, also, I believe for it's
[03:46] <theadmin> hangingclowns: And I myself prefer TeamViewer over VNC because of the ID system and my laziness of setting up a dyndns
[03:47] <hangingclowns> haha
[03:47] <hangingclowns> urlin2u: it's an HP computer
[03:47] <unkr> theadmin: what i want is that i want to connect to remote desktop but also allow the remote desktop user to use their desktop and the teamviewer will allow me to access another desktop  is this possible??
[03:48] <theadmin> unkr: Yes, it is
[03:48] <theadmin> unkr: Just have it installed on both machines
[03:48] <theadmin> unkr: You'll figure it out from there :D
[03:48] <unkr> theadmin: alrgt thnxx
[03:48] <theadmin> unkr: See http://teamviewer.com for downloads.
[03:49] <unkr> theadmin: okk
[03:49] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, when you tried f12 what did you do exactly and when?
[03:49] <theadmin> Can someone tell me why Ubuntu doesn't have any obvious way to install downloaded .deb packages anymore?
[03:49] <theadmin> I mean, we used to have gdebi, but now it's opened by USC which does nothing to it
[03:49] <hangingclowns> as soon as it was post bios boot, i just started hitting f12 like a mad man
[03:49] <theadmin> hangingclowns: Try f8 or escape as well
[03:50] <haylo_> if you click on the deb file it will open in software manager theadmin
[03:50] <hangingclowns> went to the typical black screen with a cursor
[03:50] <hangingclowns> my god, i have to have 3 hands for this
[03:50] <theadmin> haylo_: It opens in the software center which just does nothing with it
[03:50] <hangingclowns> isnt' ther ea way to edit the grub menu to show on boot alwasy?
[03:50] <haylo_> really it is using them in 11.04
[03:50] <hangingclowns> there has to be
[03:50] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, not post bios as soon as you hit power try tapping f12 if it does not work try f10 then esc all at single powering on attempts not together.
[03:50] <theadmin> hangingclowns: No, just one key -- it's normally F4, F8, Escape OR F12
[03:50] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, tap repeatedly
[03:51] <theadmin> Saw some weirdo F11 on some strange EFI-powered laptop but that was a one-time experience :D
[03:51] <haylo_> i guess it is actually gdebi in 11.04 thats using them sry theadmin
[03:51] <hangingclowns> okay, i got the boot menu, no problem
[03:51] <theadmin> haylo_: Yeah, if it's a window with the package description, name, version and the button saying "Install Package"
[03:51] <hangingclowns> problem is when i select the usb boot device, it skips it and boot STRAIGHT into my ubuntu instance
[03:51] <hangingclowns> all I wnat to do, in the end, is fix this damn problem with the update
[03:51] <hangingclowns> if not fixable, then reinstall
[03:51] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, boot menu not in the bios right?
[03:51] <hangingclowns> boot menu FROM bios
[03:51] <unkr> theadmin: just a personal ques. from how long u r using ubuntu ??/
[03:51] <hangingclowns> i get that with f9
[03:52] <urlin2u> hangingclowns, we are trying ti get you the one outside of it.
[03:52] <haylo_> theadmin that is sick- no gdebi? well gee debbi how can we use this?
[03:52] <hangingclowns> hmm
[03:52] <theadmin> unkr: I was using it for 2 years or so, but I'm not using it at all anymore
[03:52] <theadmin> unkr: Switched to Arch
[03:52] <hangingclowns> so why does it try to connect to my own outside IP, first, though? i don't get that
[03:52] <hangingclowns> no idea how to fix that
[03:52] <unkr> theadmin: howz it as compare to ubuntu ?
[03:53] <hangingclowns> no proxy is set in the eth0
[03:53] <JohnTeddy> 595M ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso
[03:53] <JohnTeddy> Is there a way to continuet his download without restarting from the beginning?
[03:53] <haylo_> im in crunchbang, pretty easy to use unkr
[03:53] <theadmin> unkr: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Compared_to_Other_Distributions#Ubuntu
[03:53] <JohnTeddy> I'm in China, so it's really slow.
[03:53] <kornerr> hi
[03:53] <unkr> theadmin: okk  i will try that also
[03:53] <kornerr> is it possible to update from one release of ubuntu to the next?
[03:54] <haylo_> ya go to update center kornerr
[03:54] <kornerr> yeah, apt update thing, right/
[03:54] <kornerr> ?
[03:54] <urlin2u> kornerr, yes if the next is available
[03:54] <unkr> theadmin: can u tell me how to create PXE server in ubuntu  i searched that but i was unable to do it successfully ?
[03:54] <haylo_> there is a big button for it at top of update menu korner
[03:54] <kornerr> i'm yet on debian, and think of switching to ubuntu
[03:54] <theadmin> unkr: Ah sorry, no, I never tried PXE, altough I think what you want is infact a tftp server
[03:55] <kornerr> when updating in ubuntu, does it always update to stable fixes?
[03:55] <theadmin> kornerr: Yeah, we have no "unstable" repositories
[03:55] <theadmin> kornerr: Unless "backports" counts
[03:55] <haylo_> well if you are using unity open up "update manager? kornerr
[03:55] <kornerr> ok. i have another debian broken update, and this time i wanna get really stable.
[03:55] <kornerr> but not outdated.
[03:55] <hangingclowns> I'm also in China, but it's not about it being slow or not, it's about why the hell it's trying to talk to it's own outside IP is what I dont' get
[03:55] <unkr> theadmin: ya i know that but dont know why it is not working well no problem i will try to solve it by myself
[03:55] <theadmin> kornerr: Ubuntu is often outdated if you're not using the latest release
[03:56] <keithclark> Anyone else having issues with Ubuntu One and 11.10?
[03:56] <kornerr> ok. so if i'll be constantly updating my ubuntu with apt, i will use the latest and *stable* things?
[03:56] <urlin2u> keithclark, to vague what is your problem.
[03:56] <haylo_> ya- aptitude uses good repos
[03:56] <keithclark> urlin2u, 11.10 does not sync up.  11.04 machine does
[03:57] <urlin2u> keithclark, sync up with what?
[03:57] <keithclark> urlin2u, with Ubuntu One
[03:57] <oracle> hey, how do I add an application to my launcher menu, I've tried dragging and dropping but it doesn't work correctly
[03:57] <urlin2u> keithclark, never used it sorry.
[03:57] <theadmin> oracle: Run the app, right click it, choose "Keep in Launcher"
[03:57] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: any more lockups?
[03:58] <oracle> theadmin: that option is not given
[03:58] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, nope nothing yet, I've been hammering the machine too =)... Hope it stays this way
[03:58] <theadmin> oracle: Huh... Weird.
[03:58] <unkr> anyone tell me how do i use clustering  between two ubuntu systems ???
[03:59] <WIGGMPk> pushpop: I hope so too, I know how random lockups can be frustrating.. I'm gonna kill and purge empathy so, if your still around when I return on pidgin
[03:59] <pushpop> WIGGMPk, OK much appreciated
[03:59] <oracle> when I drag it over to the launcher menu, it just makes an invisible label and makes it where I can indeed launch it, but if I choose another window, it runs in the background and I have to minimize other windows to get back to it,  the same dragged icon in the launcher only opens another process
[04:00] <unkr> theadmin: can u tell me how do i use clustering  between two ubuntu systems ???
[04:00] <oracle> in other words, even though it goes to the luancher, when I open another window, if I try to click back on that invisible launcher label where its supposed to be, it just opens another program
[04:00] <theadmin> unkr: No. Why am I supposed to know everything?
[04:00] <haylo_> ah it is not really an apllication switcher oracle- it just runs the app
[04:01] <unkr> theadmin: well but u do know more than me thats y i ask u   dont take it personal buddy
[04:01] <oracle> haylo_: no, I mean like for instance:  I have firefox in my launcher, if I minimize it or open another window, I can simply click back on the launcher icon and it brings it to the forefront.  However, with this problem, it opens another copy of the program!
[04:01] <urlin2u> theadmin, the plural we did it. :D
[04:01] <theadmin> unkr: lol that's okay, just ask the questions to the whole channel, not just me, there's more knowledge with the collective mind :D
[04:02] <theadmin> urlin2u: Sorry?
[04:02] <unkr> theadmin: ok
[04:02] <richboos> What is the filemanager in 11.10 , Nautilus or something else?
[04:02] <theadmin> richboos: Nautilus 3
[04:02] <urlin2u> theadmin, you asked why why your supposed to know everything.
[04:02] <theadmin> urlin2u: Ah :D
[04:02] <haylo_> well usually the launcher doesnt open another app, that is where i would look for the prob oracle - what is the app i am curios to see this- beacause i get mad when the laucher wont open new app windows
[04:02] <theadmin> urlin2u: Didn't mean as plural
[04:03] <keithclark> Is there any immediate service for Ubuntu One to be found?  The irc is dead
[04:03] <unkr> anyone tell me how do i use clustering  between two ubuntu systems ???
[04:03] <oracle> haylo_: Terminal
[04:03] <phlak_user> unkr: what kind of cluster?
[04:04] <phlak_user> unkr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Clustering
[04:05] <richboos> with the split-pane of nautilus 3, I can not click on a breadcrumb without focusing on that pane first.  this is a regression from 11.04 and gnome 2.  Bug report or Ubuntu Brainstorm?
[04:05] <unkr> phlak_user: let me read that
[04:05] <haylo_> oracle default terminal in launcher works as you want it to in 11.04
[04:06] <korokos> i can't connect msn network through empathy
[04:06] <korokos> is anyone know what's the problem
[04:06] <keithclark> Any one with Ubuntu One issues?
[04:06] <phlak_user> korokos: do you have telepathy-butterfly package installed?
[04:06] <oracle> haylo_:  it's not working on mine.  Please tell me how you're adding it to your launcher.
[04:06] <phlak_user> !info telepathy-butterfly | korokos
[04:06] <haylo_> i was able to drag it there from application switcher
[04:07] <korokos> yes phlak_user that package is already installed
[04:08] <brianmwaters> i have a question about unity
[04:08] <brianmwaters> how does it work - is it a window manager? or is it more like the old gnome-panel, and you need to use a separate window manager with it
[04:08] <urlin2u> brianmwaters, ask away.
[04:08] <phlak_user> !unity | brianmwaters
[04:08] <RudyValencia> Is there a difference between x86 and x64 Ubuntu?
[04:09] <theadmin> RudyValencia: Errm, one is intended for 32-bit processors and the other for 64-bit?
[04:09] <brianmwaters> i wasn't asking how to get rid of it
[04:09] <brianmwaters> what's a "shell"
[04:09] <theadmin> brianmwaters: Unity runs on top of GNOME libraries. It's a desktop environment.
[04:09] <phlak_user> brianmwaters: a shell is a protective covering
[04:09] <theadmin> brianmwaters: It uses Metacity or Compiz as a window manager.
[04:10] <brianmwaters> wise guy
[04:10] <unkr> phlak_user: what i want to do is to connect two ubuntu system & then make them to work as single system via clustering
[04:10] <brianmwaters> theadmin: so it replaces gnome-panel, i take it?
[04:10] <haylo_> RudyValencia  if you have a newer computer then run 64bit- it is alittle faster, but onlyworks with 64 bit architecture.
[04:10] <theadmin> brianmwaters: Yeah, and if you want you can install gnome-panel
[04:10] <oracle> can anyone help me add Terminal to my launcher?
[04:10] <theadmin> RudyValencia: Note that the third version of gnome-panel is not really customizable, though
[04:10] <brianmwaters> well. that's great!
[04:10] <SolarisBoy1> when using System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts Tab.. it doesn't appear i have the ability to modify the CTRL + ALT + T == Terminal to open terminator anymore =(.. i may be wrong though
[04:10] <theadmin> Oops
[04:10] <theadmin> RudyValencia: Sorry about that
[04:11] <brianmwaters> debian wheezy just updated me to gnome-shell and now my whole computer feels broken
[04:11] <phlak_user> unkr: yes, you can use a beowulf or kerrighed cluster for this purpose - > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntuClustering/UbuntuKerrighedClusterGuide
[04:11] <urlin2u> oracle, run it then right click it in the launcher then keep in launcher
[04:11] <haylo_> RudyValencia  often times the applications in linux are 32 bit anyway so there is not as much value in 64bit as one would think- that being said i only use 64 bit- i need all the bites i can ge my habds on lolz
[04:11] <unkr> phlak_user: will this work on any linux system ??
[04:11] <oracle> it's not even showing up in the launcher
[04:12] <urlin2u> oracle, did you start it
[04:12] <oracle> yes
[04:12] <oracle> it's going
[04:12] <urlin2u> oracle, unity right
[04:12] <haylo_> oracle did you install another terminal application or is it the default one?
[04:12] <phlak_user> unkr: yes, its not limited to ubuntu -> http://www.kerrighed.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_Kerrighed_2.3.0
[04:12] <oracle> no, default
[04:12] <brianmwaters> thank y'all
[04:12] <unkr> phlak_user: ok thnnx let me try that
[04:13] <urlin2u> oracle, default you mean classic
[04:13] <oracle> when I drag it to the launcher, there's just a blank space there in between the other launcher icons, and when I click on it it opens a NEW terminal window
[04:13] <oracle> idk
[04:13] <oracle> it's listed as Terminal
[04:13] <oracle> I type in Terminal, it shows a black screen icon
[04:13] <haylo_> well that is what i want my terminal app to do so consider yourself lucky lol
[04:13] <pinPoint> hey I have a question about my mouse? Its usb/wireless but when I use it on a computer wooden desk it lags.
[04:13] <pinPoint> batteries are new inside it so what gives?
[04:13] <haylo_> but really i would restart the computer something is messed up
[04:14] <oracle> well I don't
[04:14] <oracle> you can just type terminal to do that
[04:14] <korokos> pinPoint, then use a mouse pad!
[04:14] <OvermindDL1> pinPoint:  Your sensor on the mouse is not sensitive enough to use on that surface, use a mouse pad or get a better mouse
[04:14] <oracle> hmm wait, no you can't
[04:15] <oracle> lemme just install another terminal app
[04:15] <oracle> whats the best one?
[04:15] <pinPoint> OvermindDL1: this mouse worked fine before with ubuntu
[04:15] <phlak_user> pinPoint: is it optical or does it have a ball?
[04:15] <pinPoint> now lately it just won't work properly
[04:15] <pinPoint> its optical/blue
[04:15] <pinPoint> microsoft blue laser
[04:15] <urlin2u> oracle, mae sure you tab users names you answering so we know whi it makes thind=gs go smoother. :D
[04:16] <haylo_> i like terminator oracle
[04:16] <WIGGMPk1> much better now =)
[04:16] <OvermindDL1> pinPoint:  What you described should have nothing to do with the OS, perhaps the sensor is wearing out over time
[04:16] <quixotedon> hi all, is video chat using empathy possible? i found the menu right there but greyed (ym client)
[04:16] <SolarisBoy1> ++ on Terminator oracle
[04:16] <pinPoint> OvermindDL1: in a period of like 2yrs? :/
[04:16] <pinPoint> that's sad
[04:16] <oracle> haylo_ ok
[04:16] <quixotedon> voice chat is also disabled
[04:16] <OvermindDL1> pinPoint: Possible
[04:17] <SolarisBoy1> mm terminator && screen .. yummy
[04:17] <pinPoint> yeah, the mouse works on no surface.
[04:17] <xangua> quixotedon: for xmpp/jabber it is
[04:17] <pinPoint> wood, cloth, skin, rubber, paper, glass.
 : It is possible only when you want to video chat with a person on Gtalk ...
[04:17] <quixotedon> xangua: it is disabled or enabled??
[04:18] <xangua> quixotedon: it supports voice/vide with jabber at least
[04:18] <oracle> okay it works now, thanks
[04:18] <quixotedon> Amdpc:  pity.. mostly my contacts are using yahoo
[04:18] <OvermindDL1> pinPoint: Plug it into a different USB port to reset its interface?
[04:18] <pinPoint> trying
[04:18] <quixotedon> xangua: you mean jabber app?
[04:18] <xangua> quixotedon: jabber is an open protocol, gtalk uses jabber
[04:18] <quixotedon> i see
[04:19] <quixotedon> xangua: no possibility on yahoo client?
[04:19] <pinPoint> OvermindDL1: slight improvedment. is it going to hold though?
[04:19] <xangua> no quixotedono
[04:19] <quixotedon> xangua: sigh...
[04:19] <OvermindDL1> pinPoint: No clue, I have never had such issues unless the mouse itself was failing
[04:19] <xangua> there is gyachi wich claims video support quixotedon gyachi.sourceforge.net
[04:20] <pinPoint> man, I should just use logitech mice from now on
[04:20] <xangua> gyachi is a yahoo im client
[04:20] <quixotedon> xangua: i also can't find other app that enables vide/voice chat other than skype
[04:20] <skypent> Anyone know how to get to the etc from terminal if I'm in the home folder?
[04:20] <xangua> skypent: cd
[04:20] <quixotedon> xangua: gyachi is not available through software center, so i should install it myself
[04:21] <quixotedon> xangua: well, i'll give it a shot
[04:21] <quixotedon> xangua: thanksss
[04:21] <skypent> xangua : could've sworn I did that already, thanks though - worked
[04:21] <xangua> quixotedon: the instructions to add it in the repository are on it's website
[04:21] <quixotedon> xangua: noted
[04:22] <xangua> mmm looks like there are not packages for after lucid :/
[04:22] <skypent> scratch that, didn't work - trying to get to the file system folder when I'm in the Home folder from terminal - how would I go about that?
[04:23] <OvermindDL1> skypent:  The home folder is part of the file system, what 'file system folder' do you speak of?
[04:23] <jiltdil> Is firefox 8 available for 64 bit?
[04:24] <xangua> jiltdil: yes, firefox.com
[04:25] <skypent> OvermindDL1 : I'm accessing a server through ssh.  As soon as I get in, I'm in my home folder.  I'm trying to get to /etc/var/www which is located in file system.  When I type ls I get no folder or link that will get me to my address.
[04:25] <OvermindDL1> skypent:  Does "cd /etc/var/www" not work?
[04:25] <skypent> no
[04:26] <OvermindDL1> skypent:  What does it say?
[04:26] <skypent> no such file or directory
[04:26] <OvermindDL1> skypent:  Then exactly what it says
[04:26] <jiltdil> xangua, Hey but it is only showing for 32 bit linux
[04:26] <OvermindDL1> skypent:  I gotta go, so ask others now.
[04:26] <skypent> :l okay
[04:27] <skypent> Anyone here had experience getting to /etc/var/www through terminal when starting in the Home folder?  I just need a way to get into the file system folder so that I can jump into /etc/, but I don't know the step to do that.
[04:27] <led-bandit> jiltdil, try the mozilla ppa ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[04:28] <led-bandit> jiltdil, then install firefox 8
[04:28] <led-bandit> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[04:29] <jiltdil> led-bandit, ok i think i should wait . Don't want to use ppa. Anyway thaks alot :)
[04:29] <Amdpc> skypent : If it says bash: cd: /etc/var: No such file or directory , This means that it does not exist....!
[04:29] <led-bandit> jiltdil, thats an official mozilla ppa the same one that all the firefox versions come from
[04:30] <jiltdil> led-bandit, ok
[04:31] <led-bandit> jiltdil, that ppa only works if you are not running 11.10
[04:31] <skypent> Amdpc : I know the directory exists in the server, I'm looking at it right now, outside of terminal.  Whatever folder I'm starting in (home) is showing desktop and other folders when I ls.  /etc/var/www exists in another directory (file system)... if I can get to there I can get to /etc/var/www.  I can't do cd /etc/var/www because then the route would be home/etc/var/www which doesn't exist.
[04:32] <led-bandit> jiltdil, sorry about that
[04:33] <led-bandit> jiltdil, read up here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/firefox-8-officially-released/
[04:33] <led-bandit> looks like you wont have to install any ppas or get firefox from any other sources
 TThen try "sudo su -" and then "cd <path>"
[04:34] <neoark> anyone know how to resize root partion painlessly ?
[04:34] <neoark> on oneiric
[04:34] <neoark> on remote server
[04:36] <Night-hacks> why i don't have /dev/audio in 11.04 ?!
[04:37] <led-bandit> neoark, you are not supposed to resize a mounted partition
[04:37] <neoark> from rescue disk
[04:37] <qrwteyrutiyoup> Night-hacks, maybe you have /dev/snd/*
[04:37] <neoark> using parted?
[04:37] <led-bandit> yes you can do that
[04:38] <led-bandit> although i dont know how you get the remote part to work that way
[04:38] <Night-hacks> qrwteyrutiyoup: how to use it /dev/audio ?
[04:38] <neoark> i can netboot
[04:39] <neoark> with different kernel
[04:39] <skypent> Amdpc : Thanks.
[04:39] <qrwteyrutiyoup> What do you want to do exactly, Night-hacks?
 Did it worked ?
[04:39] <Night-hacks> qrwteyrutiyoup: want to $echo "test" < /dev/audio
[04:39] <osama> olá!
[04:40] <jin> Can i ask for help here or is there a channel dedicated to that?
[04:40] <Night-hacks>  jin: thats here
[04:40] <Parsis> hi
[04:41] <skypent> Amdpc : Yeah, did sudo su.  Then just did cd to get out of home, ls wasn't showing me etc folder, but it was there.
[04:41] <jin> Great, since i updated to 11.10 from 11.04 on boot, it cant mount my LVM partition, it warns me, and i have to go to manual and run vgchange -ay and they mount it
[04:42] <jin> how do i get ubuntu to automaticaly activate the partition?
 : Great...!! ;)
[04:42] <Parsis> would anyone here know how could I install Ubuntu 11.10 using a USB drive to a Win7 PC who's BIOS can't boot from USB
[04:43] <led-bandit> Parsis, if its new enough to run windows 7 it should boot from usb do you have usb turned on in the bios?
[04:44] <Parsis> there's no USB in the BIOS
[04:44] <Parsis> just Hard Disk and CD drive
[04:44] <led-bandit> what computer is it?
[04:44] <Parsis> a Fujitsu-Siemens S series lifebook
[04:44] <Parsis> S7020
[04:44] <jin> anyone?
[04:47] <Steak> my motherboard has an option to load USB in the BIOS
 : If usb doesnt boot,why dont you use wubi..?
[04:49] <Spartak> anyone play saurbaten?
[04:49] <Spartak> is it good game?
[04:49] <jin> Can anyone help me?
[04:49] <Spartak> jin : no ;))
[04:49] <Parsis> :D
[04:49] <jin> spartak: obviously....
[04:49] <Spartak> jin, just kidding, do not take it seriously :D
[04:50] <Amdpc> !wait  | jin
[04:50] <jin> ubottu: think i came here without trying the forum/help/ask/stackoverflow/google*10^1092801982
[04:51] <jiltdil> jin: Automatically activate partition ???
[04:52] <KRStwo> jin:  is there a reason you can't use Wubi?
[04:52] <jin> jiltdil: sorry i dont know what that means
[04:52] <jin> KRStwo: sorry i dont know what that is
[04:52] <Amdpc> !wubi | jin
[04:52] <led-bandit> KRStwo, Parsis was having the usb issue
[04:53] <Parsis> pfft, there's so much to learn about ubuntu till I will understand it
[04:53] <jin> KRStwo and Amdpc: i think you ment to tel that to sumone else
[04:53] <KRStwo> led=bandit:  oooops, sorry, you're right.
[04:53] <Parsis> I heard about Wubi, can I use it to install ubuntu
[04:53] <Parsis> without booting from usb
[04:53] <KRStwo> Parsis: yep
[04:53] <evon> I am still running ubuntu 11.04 has anyone had any problems uprading to 11.10? I want know before I upgrade
[04:54] <jiltdil> jin: ok may u  tell me where you had mounted lv ??
[04:54] <Amdpc> jin : Sry.. :P
[04:54] <KRStwo> and you can do it from within Windows?just like installing any program.
[04:54] <KRStwo> see:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[04:54] <led-bandit> evon if you like gnome 2 then yes if you use unity i dont think so
[04:54] <jin> amdpc: lol np
[04:54] <jin> #/dev/lvm-raid5/Raid5	/media/Raid5	xfs	defaults	0 0
[04:54] <jin> UUID=860af524-d3ae-4bcd-bdf8-b5deb5b7596a	/media/Raid5	xfs	defaults	0
[04:54] <Parsis> but doesn't it need to format the drive
[04:55] <jin> the line i commented out was the one i used befor i upgraded, i was told to change it to a uuid
[04:55] <Parsis> so that I would be having to go through BIOS
[04:55] <jiltdil> jin: hm ok now check the uuid
[04:55] <KRStwo> No, it creates a "loopback" filesystem that doesn't format anyting.
[04:55] <kronoman> hello
[04:55] <kronoman> hey , where is /dev/dsp on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[04:55] <Parsis> oh
[04:55] <evon> led-bandit: I seriously dislike unity and I prefer gnome 2.  But I really want to try gnome 3.  I used it in the testing phases and I really like it
[04:55] <jin> jiltdil: form this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/70935/lvm-allocations-change-after-restart
[04:55] <Parsis> is the loopback a kind of a partition or what
[04:55] <evon> led-bandit: I just want to make sure upgrading wont break my system
[04:55] <jiltdil> jin:ok wait
[04:56] <jin> with blkid -p /dev/...
[04:56] <Parsis> I mean Ubuntu has to use some of the HDD memory?
[04:56] <led-bandit> evon, then install 11.10 and then install gnome-shell you can then choose either unity or gnome-shell at start
[04:56] <jiltdil> jin: i have told u for uuid above check
[04:56] <KRStwo> parsis:kind of - it makes a file on your Windows drive that acts like a virtual hard drive.  You can set this to be as big as you want.
[04:56] <led-bandit> evon, if you like gnome fallback you can install that and play with it as well
[04:56] <evon> led-bandit: so 11.10 doesn't have gnome 2 at all? And when i say "upgrade" i mean upgrading through the update manager
[04:57] <led-bandit> evon, gnome 2 is dead
[04:57] <jin> sudo blkid -p /dev/lvm-raid5/Raid5
[04:57] <jin> /dev/lvm-raid5/Raid5: UUID="860af524-d3ae-4bcd-bdf8-b5deb5b7596a" TYPE="xfs" USAGE="filesystem"
[04:57] <led-bandit> evon, thats why i asked if you like gnome 2 cause it is no more
[04:57] <somsip> !nounity | evon
[04:58] <neoark> its spiting out some error
[04:58] <neoark> anyone know how to resize root partion
[04:58] <neoark> of ext4
[04:58] <Amdpc> !wubi > Parsis
[04:58] <neoark> parted is not working
[04:58] <evon> led-bandit, somsip, thanks.  I will begin the upgrade process now ;-)
[04:58] <neoark> Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible features are has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file.  Use tune2fs or debugfs to remove features.
[04:58] <stephni> i inserted a blank cd into my system it was not recognised now i can't see my cd drive i can't open the cd or eject
[04:59] <jiltdil> jin; replace first boot partion enetry in fstab as /dev/sda* and use uuid there
[04:59] <acu> I remote in a system and the keyring kicks in - so if nobody is physically at the remote machine I cannot get in - how can I get rid of this keyring in GNOME
[04:59] <jiltdil> jin *first partitin /dev/sda1
[04:59] <neoark> i am in rescue mode
[04:59] <hammommah> will "*/10 * * * * chown -Rv mythtv /media/media/mythtv" work in as cron job?
[05:00] <jin> jiltdil: even though its an LVM?
[05:00] <jin> jiltdil: in the disk utility it shows sda as unallocated space
[05:01] <jiltdil> jin: every device has it uuid
[05:01] <haylo_> you can find the keyring file and delete it
[05:01] <jiltdil> jin : i thin sda1
[05:01] <haylo_> you can find the keyring file and delete it acu
[05:01] <ironfoot495> Hello I'm not able to increase the resolution on 10.10 so I can't use my lcd 42 ?????
[05:01] <stephni> i inserted a blank cd into my system it was not recognised now i can't see my cd drive i can't open the cd or eject
[05:01] <jin> sudo blkid -p /dev/sda
[05:01] <jin> /dev/sda: PTTYPE="dos"
[05:01] <ironfoot495> can I get some help
[05:01] <ironfoot495> ?
[05:01] <jin> sudo blkid -p /dev/sda1
[05:01] <jin> error: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[05:02] <jiltdil> jin: give me the output of fdisk -l
[05:03] <jiltdil> jin: i think u have installed xp firstly? M i correct?
[05:03] <ironfoot495> ArandR wont let me increase the resolution?
[05:03] <jin> jiltdil: win xp, but replaced it with win7, fsidk -l output, http://pastebin.com/jv8rfRkt
[05:04] <fvilla> hello
[05:04] <fvilla> i need some help
[05:04] <Parsis> everyone does
[05:04] <fvilla> =[
[05:04] <jin> lol
[05:04] <led-bandit> fvilla, just ask your question and wait for hlep
[05:04] <jiltdil> jin: sdb2 i think ., u have instaled linux there?
[05:04] <jin> fvilla:  shoot
[05:04] <led-bandit> help'
[05:04] <fvilla> i just did an upgrade to the new distro
[05:05] <fvilla> and now my webserver does not work
[05:05] <jiltdil> jin also paste the output of mount
[05:05] <neoark> anyone know how to resize ext4 root partion?
[05:05] <haylo_> why did you upgrade when you are running a server fvilla
[05:05] <neoark> Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible features are has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file.  Use tune2fs or debugfs to remove features.
[05:05] <neoark> getting that error
[05:05] <fvilla> idk stupid move
[05:05] <fvilla> i didnt know
[05:06] <jiltdil> neoark: best way to do it , use live cd and do it
[05:06] <jin> jiltdil: b1 is windows, b2 is /boot, b3 is /, b4 is /swap
[05:06] <neoark> whcih command?
[05:06] <neoark> jiltdil ?
[05:06] <stephni> i inserted a blank cd into my system it was not recognised now i can't see my cd drive i can't open the cd or eject and the cd drive is no more working
[05:07] <hammommah> */10 * * * * chown -Rv mythtv /media/media/mythtv    will this work as cron job?????
[05:07] <ironfoot495> Iquess find a way to increase my resolution is not a good question to ask!!!
[05:07] <jiltdil> neoark,  i am saying  go with live cd and use gparted
[05:07] <led-bandit> stephni, even if you push the button on the cd drive?
[05:07] <neoark> its remote server
[05:07] <jin> jiltdil: sudo mount = http://pastebin.com/Z0XVpevz
[05:07] <neoark> can't use gparted
[05:07] <SolarisBoy1> fvilla: how does it not work? is there an error in the logs?
[05:07] <jiltdil> neoark: ????
[05:07] <led-bandit> hammommah, why would you want to run that as a cron job?
[05:08] <neoark> on a remote server can't use gui
[05:08] <neoark> only command line
[05:08] <jin> neoark: there is a commandline version called parted
[05:08] <hammommah> so when media gets added to my server by wife kids, mythtv can still access media
[05:08] <jin> !parted
[05:08] <Thelmaria> neoark: Can't use x-forwarding?
[05:09] <fvilla> im a pretty big newb
[05:09] <led-bandit> hammommah, oh ok i saw a post about that this week
[05:09] <fvilla> which logs should i look for
[05:09] <hammommah> this cron job doesnt seem to be working tho?
[05:09] <jiltdil> neoark, ok if not gui then  use parted  gparted is for gui
[05:09] <hammommah> what am i missing
[05:09] <SolarisBoy1> fvilla: what web server do you use?
[05:09] <neoark> parted is spitting out Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible features are has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file.  Use tune2fs or debugfs to remove features.
[05:09] <fvilla> apache2
[05:09] <fvilla> lamp
[05:10] <fvilla> ubuntu lamp install
[05:10] <fvilla> but i installed the gui ontop of it
[05:10] <led-bandit> hammommah, how did you add the cron job?
[05:10] <SolarisBoy1> fvilla: if it was a vanilla install try checking /var/log/apache2/error.log with tail/cat/less etc
[05:11] <hammommah> gksudo gedit added to bottom of file :)
[05:11] <jiltdil> neoark: then use tune2fs to solve firstly that
[05:11] <hammommah> /etc/crontab
[05:11] <SolarisBoy1> fvilla: you can also use grep or something that will parse for the string "error"
[05:11] <jin> jiltdil: did you see my last replys?
[05:12] <Rya_n> I was wondering if someone could help me with my stupid grub problem...
[05:12] <jiltdil> neoark: hm i am thinking that its complicated
[05:12] <neoark> what do i need to turn off?
[05:12] <jin> rya_n lets hear it
[05:12] <stephni> if i push it won't work if i restart it shows light then before boot up it stops
[05:12] <led-bandit> hammommah, make sure there is a blank line at the end of crontab file
[05:13] <hammommah> led-bandit, there is
[05:13] <led-bandit> what error are you getting?
[05:13] <r0gue> hello, I started the terminal after login in and I got an extremely strange output when I tried to load the previously typed text http://imagebin.org/183256
[05:13] <Rya_n> So I installed Ubuntu on a completely separate HDD, not on the same on as my WinXP. When I boot my PC, I get a unwanted grub menu.
[05:14] <Rya_n> one**
[05:14] <r0gue> what might be the casue behind it?
[05:14] <r0gue> sorry cause
[05:14] <neoark> jiltdil how do i check which features are on?
[05:14] <stephni> no error my os is working fine just the cd drive ceased after i inserted a blank cd
[05:14] <jin> rya_n: if you want to use ubuntu and windows, you need to use grub, the windows bootloader wont let you boot into ubuntu
[05:14] <Rya_n> MY bios is set to boot my WinXP HDD first. I want other people to be able to turn on the computer and get into WinXP without seeing the grub menu.
[05:14] <jiltdil> neorak: wait a bit can u give the exact output so i tell you
[05:15] <Rya_n> jin, can't I just choose which harddrive to boot from when I boot (in bios)?
[05:15] <led-bandit> stephni, http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/ht/ppdropen.htm
[05:15] <haylo_> Make the grub menu time very short and get windows as its default choice Rya_n
[05:16] <jin> rya_n yes if you want, but it easier to pick between the 2 at boot, they have to fiddle arround in bios each time, if you set windows as the default even when bios is set to ubuntu, it will still go to windows on boot
[05:16] <Rya_n> ill try
[05:16] <jin> rya_n what haylo said
[05:16] <r0gue> hello, I started the terminal after login in and I got an extremely strange output when I tried to load the previously typed text http://imagebin.org/183256
[05:17] <Rya_n> I understand the utility of the grub menu. It's just that this is a family PC, lol. I don't want people seeing a meny.
[05:17] <Rya_n> menu*
[05:17] <haylo_> Rya_n just press your down arrow key while booting so you can access that one second grub boot time
[05:17] <jin> r0gue: i heard you
[05:17] <stephni> thanks
[05:17] <led-bandit> stephni,  you get it open?
[05:17] <stephni> still checking out the site
[05:17] <jin> r0gue: are any of your past command there?
[05:17] <r0gue> yes
[05:18] <haylo_> ya make grub go so fast your family cant see it- thats what i do Rya_n
[05:18] <jin> r0gue: but the most recent one is alawys that?
[05:18] <neoark> (parted) resize 2
[05:18] <neoark> Start?  [10.5GB]? 20GB
[05:18] <neoark> End?  [2000GB]?
[05:18] <neoark> Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible features are has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file.  Use tune2fs or debugfs to remove features.
[05:18] <neoark> (parted)
[05:18] <FloodBot1> neoark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <r0gue> sorry sorry no i cant get those past commands
[05:18] <HACKhalo2> how would I mark a thumb drive bootable in linux?
[05:18] <jin> r0gue: so when you open the terminal and press up you get that? is that what your saying?
[05:19] <led-bandit> hammommah, did you get it working?
[05:19] <r0gue> yeah exactly jin
[05:19] <neoark> jiltdil http://paste.ubuntu.com/732756/
[05:19] <jiltdil> neoark: ok do u want it for ext4??/
[05:19] <led-bandit> HACKhalo2, look at unetbootin
[05:19] <neoark> yes
[05:19] <r0gue> nothing else but that text
[05:19] <jin> r0gue: type $ tail bash_history
[05:19] <HACKhalo2> led-bandit, thanks, been googling for an hour and found nothing
[05:19] <hammommah> not yet... was blank line there.... do you know how to run cron jobs now rather then waiting till 10mins goes by?
[05:19] <jin> r0gue: sorry thats $ tail .bash_history
[05:19] <led-bandit> HACKhalo2, booting linux with usb or windows?
[05:20] <HACKhalo2> I have a windows iso i want to boot, but I'm in linux
[05:20] <hammommah> also how do you reply to someones post?
[05:20] <r0gue> jin, tail: cannot open `bash_history' for reading: No such file or directory
[05:20] <hammommah> ie tag there nick
[05:20] <jin> r0gue: sorry thats $ tail .bash_history
[05:20] <HACKhalo2> and I can't burn it to a cd because my CD drive is broken
[05:20] <led-bandit> hammommah, first leters of nick and then tab
[05:20] <hammommah> led-bandit, nice
[05:20] <HACKhalo2> thus the thumb drive
[05:21] <jin> jiltdil: i take it you dont know what to do about my problem? thanks for your help
[05:21] <led-bandit> HACKhalo2, see http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[05:21] <haylo_> use universal usb creator in windows or startup disk creator in ubuntu HACKhalo2 or try unetbootin- all those tools make bootable usb drives
[05:21] <r0gue> http://imagebin.org/183258 jin
[05:21] <Rya_n> If I were to uninstall grub, would my Windows HDD boot fine?
[05:21] <HACKhalo2> led-bandit, will that work with XP?
[05:22] <stephni> thanks
[05:22] <hammommah> led-bandit, do you know of better way to change permissions when files get tranfered to media server. dont want to use fat or ntfs?
[05:22] <haylo_> universal usb creator works with xp HACKhalo2
[05:22] <jiltdil> neoark, tune2fs -o acl,user_xattr /dev/sdax i think this might help..This is for setting manually formatted ext4 filesystem to turn on support at mount automaticaly by using tune2fs to set default ,mount options
[05:23] <jin> r0gue: do you know how to change to a terminal not in the x environment? e.g. ctrl + alt + f2
[05:23] <skypent> Is there a command in terminal that lets me see the most recent program that was installed on the system?
[05:23] <r0gue> i am a newbie dont know that
[05:23] <Abhijit> hi
[05:23] <r0gue> jin
[05:23] <r0gue> i am a newbie dont know that  jin
[05:23] <jin> r0gue: or one sec,
[05:23] <Abhijit> i want to dual boot bt and ubuntu. buntu is already installed. will there be any grub etc problems in this? anyone tried this?
[05:24] <jin> skypent: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep “\ install\ “
[05:24] <jiltdil> Abhijit: there is no problem after installing Bt go in ubuntu use udate-grub
[05:24] <jiltdil> *update-grub
[05:25] <haylo_> no backtrack and ubuntu appear the same to grub Abhijit
[05:25] <neoark> jiltdil: do i need to enable it again?
[05:25] <neoark> after it resized?
[05:25] <quixotedon> all, 11.10 comes with an autoplay feature for any removable device, is there any way to disable this?
[05:25] <jiltdil> neoark, i think no
[05:25] <Abhijit> jiltdil, haylo_ thanks
[05:25] <haylo_> I have installed ubuntu and BT side by side tons of times- no problems at all
[05:25] <jin> compix --reload
[05:26] <jiltdil> neoark, i thik u should also consult to man page may be it will more clear to you
[05:26] <haylo_> BT will read as ubuntu 10.04 Abhijit
[05:26] <Abhijit> haylo_, okay here i have ubuntu already installed and now i will be installing bt
[05:26] <glitchd> anyone know anything about teamspeak in here??
[05:26] <neoark> k
[05:26] <led-bandit> hammommah, not really i am still looking though how are they coping the files to the server?
[05:26] <bra> Saludos..
[05:26] <glitchd> could really use some teamspeak help over here
[05:27] <haylo_> sounds fine i think i have done it both ways- BT is just modified ubuntu Abhijit
[05:27] <Abhijit> haylo_, okies
[05:27] <led-bandit> copying' even wow my typing tonight
[05:28] <Space-Duck> Any web developers in here? Is there an editor that allows you to edit your local files then upload via a shortcut (similar to Dreamweaver)?
[05:28] <bra> quisiera saber como oculto mi IP
[05:28] <jin> r0gue: sorry, if you press ctrl +alt + an F key, you select different ttys, f7 is the graphical one your using now, so if you press ctrl alt f2, it will offer you to login, then you can come back to this one with ctrl alt f, try that now
[05:28]  * jiltdil using BT since last 4 years . For people like me its way to go ahead
[05:29] <haylo_> way to go ahead?
[05:30] <r0gue_> jin that was scarry i pressed ctrl+alt+F2 and something happened
[05:30] <jin> r0gue_: did you figure out how to get back though?
[05:30] <liveCD> Would someone care to explain why the hell Grub legacy is default on 11.10?
[05:30] <haylo_> remember control alt f7 to get back to your GUI rogue_
[05:30] <r0gue_> no man i pressed ctrl+alt+delete
[05:31] <led-bandit> hammommah, you there?
[05:31] <hammommah> led-bandit, yep
[05:31] <haylo_> rOgue that is one of the command line based shells you can use in your install
[05:31] <led-bandit> hammommah, how are they copying the files to myth?
[05:32] <harsh343> I am trying to access  the page http://localhost/dashboard_devtest return an error  You don't have permission to access /dashboard_devtest on this server. what i can do ????????? I  copy my this folder dashboard_devtest in to localhost through command sudo nautilus, Help me please
[05:32] <haylo_> that it what a terminal emulator - emulates
[05:32] <hammommah> wife uses finder in mac to copy straight to video dir, tv recordings done on server
[05:32] <r0gue_> ok haylo but i cant get my past commands back i am receiving error
[05:32] <r0gue_> http://imagebin.org/183256 haylo
[05:32] <led-bandit> hammommah, could you change the create mask in samba?
[05:33] <led-bandit> hammommah, and or the user
[05:33] <hammommah> already got that at 0777
[05:33] <hammommah> myth needs ownership to use :(
[05:33] <led-bandit> hammommah, you can force the user and group as well
[05:33] <hammommah> tried that doesnt seem to work force user = myth force group = myth
[05:33] <jiltdil> Abhijit,  ctrl+alt+Arrow keys(up/down)
[05:34] <hammommah> ownership goes bach to hammo (me)
[05:34] <Abhijit> amm??
[05:34] <led-bandit> hammommah, then you restarted samba that is weird
[05:34] <Abhijit> jiltdil, whats that for?
[05:34] <hammommah> tell me about it
[05:34] <hammommah> led-bandit, brb
[05:34] <haylo_> rOgue past commands are stored in you ram and cooerelate with terminal you entered them in
[05:35] <jiltdil> Abhijit,  oh i think today u have asked to switch between workspace :)
[05:35] <r0gue_> but they have disappeared
[05:35] <Sindikat> hi all! my BOINC package wasn't working in oneiric, i downloaded from precise repo (using pinning) and now it's working. what should i do to propose to backport boinc to oneiric? file a bug?
[05:35] <harsh343> hello all
[05:35] <haylo_> they dont always just pop back up
[05:36] <r0gue_> whats that strange error then? haylo?
[05:37] <harsh343> right now i copy some data and place in to my var/www folder but when i click on this error message dislayed you cannot access the data how can i access please help me
[05:37] <Abhijit> jiltdil, nope
[05:38] <harsh343> the folder cannot displayed you have not permissions to access the file but i am the admin so why ?
[05:38] <jiltdil> harsh343,  check the ls -ld /var/www
[05:39] <qin> !permissions | harsh343
[05:39] <harsh343> jiltdil, out put of the command is drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2011-11-09 10:59 /var/www
[05:40] <jiltdil> harsh343,  so it is only for superuser
[05:40] <harsh343> jiltdil, so what i can do ?
[05:40] <jiltdil> harsh343,  it is saying user root and group root
[05:41] <harsh343> jiltdil, how m i able to show the folders any command for this i want to access my www folder , and i am the admin of my system
[05:42] <kontagious> how do i remove the dots from lightdm unity greeter?
[05:46] <harsh343> I want to access my whole www folder what i can do ?please give me the command for this
[05:46] <haylo_> kotagious you dont remove the dots- it is just a startup screen- but if you must look for seesions and startup and see if you can change your background "splash" at startup
[05:48] <led-bandit> harsh343, http://askubuntu.com/questions/20053/how-to-assign-correct-permissions-to-both-webserver-and-svn-users
[05:51] <harsh343> led-bandit, again i m not able to dee the page
[05:51] <harsh343> see*
[05:51] <led-bandit> where is the page located?
[05:52] <harsh343> I am the owner of my system and i am trying to access the www but not able to do that message display you do not have permissions
[05:52] <harsh343> but why
[05:52] <kontagious> haylo, i have the background changed and the dots are distracting
[05:52] <led-bandit> harsh343, chgrp -R www-data /var/www
[05:52] <led-bandit> harsh343, chmod -R g+rwX /var/www
[05:53] <harsh343> led-bandit, i try both the commands but i m not able
[05:54] <led-bandit> harsh343, if you get an error use sudo chgrp -R www-data /var/www
[05:54] <harsh343> again the message displayed you do no have permissions
[05:56] <harsh343> led-bandit, again the same
[05:56] <harsh343> you do not have permissions
[05:56] <led-bandit> harsh343, did you restart the webserver?
[05:56] <harsh343> led-bandit, no
[05:56] <led-bandit> harsh343, wait i will give you the command
[05:57] <harsh343> ok
[05:57] <led-bandit> harsh343, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:58] <harsh343> led-bandit, again the same things heppen
[05:58] <led-bandit> harsh343, what is the file you are trying to open with a browser?
[05:59] <harsh343> http://localhost/dashboard_devtest
[05:59] <led-bandit> harsh343, can you open just http://localhost?
[05:59] <led-bandit> harsh343, can you open just http://localhost  ??
[05:59] <harsh343> right now i copy this folder dashboard_devtest in to www folder through sudo nautilus command
[05:59] <harsh343> led-bandit, eys
[05:59] <harsh343> yes*
[06:00] <harsh343> see what i have already created in www folder those are works but right now i copy some of the folders in www folder through sudo commands those are not works
[06:00] <led-bandit> harsh343, open a terminal and cd to /var/www
[06:01] <harsh343> means right now i paste some of the materials in www folder through sudo nautilus
[06:01] <led-bandit> then ls -l
[06:02] <mikeyfbi> trying to get back into ubuntu ... just installed 11.10 ... removed unity for compiz but now have no menu (alt+f1), run dialog (alt+f2)
[06:02] <harsh343> led-bandit, i enter in /var/www
[06:02] <harsh343> now ?
[06:02] <mikeyfbi> any idea how to get these to run with without unity installed?
[06:02] <led-bandit> ls -l
[06:03] <harsh343> led-bandit, ok
[06:03] <harsh343> now ?
[06:03] <led-bandit> harsh343, what does it say for  dashboard_devtest  ?
[06:03] <harsh343> details
[06:03] <led-bandit> yes
[06:03] <harsh343> of each folder
[06:03] <led-bandit>  dashboard_devtest is a folder?
[06:04] <mikeyfbi> I want to have my menu (alt+f1) and run dialoge (alt+f2) without having the unity plugin for 11.10 ... google doesn't help tho :(  an ideas?
[06:04] <harsh343> http://pastebin.com/ztXr8K1b output
[06:04] <mikeyfbi> i have them enabled in "enable gnome compatability" but no dice
[06:04] <harsh343> led-bandit,
[06:05] <led-bandit> harsh343,sudo chown www-data.www-data * -R
[06:06] <r0gue_> I am getting a marvelous"never before seen error" in my terminal since I logged in http://imagebin.org/183256
[06:07] <evmunro> r0gue, HOW DID U DO THAT!! :D
[06:07] <harsh343> led-bandit, nopes again the same error
[06:07] <harsh343> also again i restart my apache
[06:07] <r0gue_> i just dont have any idea, when I press up button i get that error
[06:07] <led-bandit> harsh343, sudo chmod 775 * -R
[06:08] <r0gue_> or whatever you call it
[06:08] <led-bandit> harsh343, then restart the webserve with sudo service apache restart
[06:08] <led-bandit> harsh343, then restart the webserve with sudo service apache2 restart
[06:08] <r0gue_> pYB�s{;>���
[06:09] <harsh343> led-bandit, and the output of ls -ld /var/www is drwxr-xr-x 7 root www-data 4096 2011-11-09 10:59 /var/www
[06:10] <vog> joint
[06:10] <harsh343> led-bandit, again the same
[06:10] <r0gue_> I am getting a marvelous"never before seen error" in my terminal since I logged in http://imagebin.org/183256
[06:10] <harsh343> could not be displayed
[06:10] <led-bandit> harsh343, is there a file in the dashboard_devtest folder?
[06:11] <harsh343> led-bandit, yes so many files and folders are there
[06:11] <TheDigitalNinja> in a pam config file  if i want to set pam_mysql.so to use a non startard port  do i do host = hostname:port   or host = hostname port = port  ?
[06:11] <harsh343> inside the dashboard_devtest
[06:11] <led-bandit> harsh343, try to open just one of the files
[06:11] <harsh343> led-bandit, but i am not able to open this folder dashboard_devtest
[06:11] <led-bandit> http://localhost/dashboard_devtest/filename
[06:13] <harsh343> led-bandit, not able
[06:13] <harsh343> again
[06:13] <admiralshlorky> hey led-bandit, did you figure out the kernel/nvidia driver issue?
[06:13] <led-bandit> admiralshlorky, no suck luck
[06:13] <led-bandit> harsh343, what is the ls -l of www dir?
[06:14] <led-bandit> harsh343, try to join the #ubuntu-server  channel
[06:14] <harsh343> led-bandit, one thins i want to ask you now i am going to delete this folder and copy the same folder again by command prompt except nautilus so can you please give me the command fo this
[06:15] <harsh343> thing*
[06:15] <led-bandit> harsh343, i dont think that will help
[06:15] <harsh343> led-bandit, let us try
[06:15] <led-bandit> harsh343, ask in #ubuntu-server
[06:15] <r0gue_> i am getting a strange error in terminal pYB�s{;>���
[06:15] <phlak_user> r0gue_: does this show up even when you type something in the terminal?
[06:16] <r0gue_> no, when i press the up button
[06:16] <phlak_user> r0gue_: just type reset in the terminal and press enter
[06:16] <floydsprite> how do you delete a file from a ssh terminal
[06:16] <led-bandit> harsh343, its time for bed for me sorry i was not more helpful
[06:16] <led-bandit> rm name
[06:16] <harsh343> led-bandit, hmm thanks dear can i give the ouput of ls-l in www
[06:16] <r0gue_> but all my past commands, what about them?
[06:17] <r0gue_> they are not showing up
[06:17] <led-bandit> harsh343, sure why not
[06:17] <phlak_user> r0gue_: did reset work?
[06:17] <led-bandit> i am batting 0/4 so why not
[06:18] <floydsprite> thank you it worked
[06:18] <r0gue_> it just cleared something from the terminal, but the commands they are all gone
[06:18] <harsh343> http://pastebin.com/ztXr8K1b led-bandit
[06:18] <r0gue_> from the moment i installed linux mint till now whatever commands were there they are all gone phlak_user
[06:19] <phlak_user> r0gue_: to see if your old commands are available, type cat .bash_history in your home folder
[06:19] <led-bandit> harsh343, from the terminal i asked you to tun sudo chown www-data.www-data * -R
[06:19] <phlak_user> r0gue_: you are on mint and not Ubuntu?
[06:19] <leo2007> I add an alias in bash. but due to bash completion, the alias no longer completes to file names in current directory. Is there workaround?
[06:19] <pavanai> i installed gtk+2  after that nautilus keep on spawning automatically
[06:19] <phlak_user> leo2007: what is the alias
[06:19] <led-bandit> harsh343, the folder should not still say this drwx------ 9 root www-data 4096 2011-11-09 10:30 dashboard_devtest
[06:19] <r0gue_> yeah on mint
[06:20] <phlak_user> r0gue_: if you notice, this is an ubuntu support channel; pl ask in #mint
[06:20] <pavanai> my icons changed and some softwares like ubuntu software centre is not working
[06:20] <pavanai> any help?
[06:20] <leo2007> phlak_user: alias ee='emacsclient -n'
[06:20] <admiralshlorky> led-bandit damn
[06:20] <admiralshlorky> floydsprite: any commands you normally use on your remote system work through ssh
[06:21] <r0gue_> nobody is responding in mint so i came to ubuntu they are almost the same just try to figure it out
[06:21] <phlak_user> leo2007: i am not able to replicate the error; i just created the same alias and my tab-completion still works
[06:21] <pavanai> 'ph8,any help?
[06:21] <r0gue_> http://imagebin.org/183261 phlak_user
[06:21] <pavanai> cconstantine_, hiii
[06:22] <phlak_user> r0gue_: ok so the same 'rogue' command/text has filled up your bash_history
[06:22] <pavanai> adante, am having a wierd problem
[06:22] <leo2007> phlak_user: that's very very weird.
[06:23] <r0gue_> hmm
[06:23] <adante> pavanai: ok
[06:23] <pavanai> Spartakus, can u help me? pls
[06:23] <led-bandit> harsh343, did you leave?
[06:23] <r0gue_> how to remove that command?
[06:24] <pavanai> r0gue_, can u help me?
[06:24] <leo2007> phlak_user: I am on 11.10.
[06:24] <spartak> pavanai, what is the problem bro?
[06:24] <r0gue_> help with what pavanai
[06:24] <Neo> send fake mail
[06:24] <Neo> by bt4
[06:24] <led-bandit> r0gue_, what are you wanting to remove?
[06:25] <pavanai> dontworry, can u help me?
[06:25] <Guest39133> hey first sort out my problem
[06:25] <r0gue_> http://imagebin.org/183261 i cannot get my past commands when i press up button
[06:25] <pavanai> gtk+2 destroyed everything
[06:25] <Guest39133> hello
[06:25] <r0gue_> google it pavanai
[06:26] <led-bandit> r0gue_, sorry to here that i hope you know the commands you want to run :P
[06:26] <Guest39133> ./etc/init.d
[06:26] <led-bandit> hear'
[06:26] <pavanai> i installed gtk+ 2 now  my nautilus keeps spawning on panel
[06:26] <Guest39133> sendmail
[06:26] <Guest39133> ??
[06:26] <Guest39133> how to use
[06:26] <pavanai> adante, i installed gtk+ 2 now  my nautilus keeps spawning on panel
[06:26] <Guest39133> k bye
[06:26] <pavanai> r0gue_, adante, i installed gtk+ 2 now  my nautilus keeps spawning on panel
[06:26] <pavanai> r0gue_, i tried googling but no help
[06:26] <led-bandit> r0gue_, you can always get a history list and go from there
[06:27] <r0gue_> i am a newbi pavanai dont know sorry
[06:27] <led-bandit> r0gue_, at least you will have the commands that you ran
[06:27] <r0gue_> how to get that history list, led-bandit?
[06:27] <adante> pavanai: sorry no idea
[06:27] <spartak> pavanai, what do you mean with gtk destroyes everything?
[06:27] <led-bandit> r0gue_, type in history
[06:28] <pavanai> r0gue_, its ok...thnx
[06:28] <linuxuz3r> hey
[06:29] <harsh343> led-bandit, again online
[06:29] <pavanai> spartak,i installed gtk+2 after that my nautilus keeps on spawning on panel
[06:29] <r0gue_> type what in history?
[06:29] <pavanai> adante, ok
[06:29] <led-bandit> no you just type in history and hit enter
[06:29] <led-bandit> harsh343, from the terminal i asked you to run sudo chown www-data.www-data * -R
[06:29] <led-bandit> harsh343, the folder should not still say this drwx------ 9 root www-data 4096 2011-11-09 10:30 dashboard_devtest
[06:29] <harsh343> i run sudo chown www-data.www-data * -R this command inside the www
[06:29] <pavanai> linuxuz3r, hi
[06:30] <harsh343> of direct
[06:30] <Jordan_U> harsh343: Do *not* run that command.
[06:30] <spartak> pavanai, hmmm, I have never heard such problem, it is the first
[06:30] <harsh343> Jordan_U, then ?
[06:30] <pavanai> a1-sauce, any workaround?
[06:30] <led-bandit> harsh343, looks like Jordan_U is going to help you
[06:30] <harsh343> led-bandit, ok
[06:30] <Jordan_U> led-bandit: I think you added a space where you didn't intend one to be in that command. That '*' will match anything in the current directory, not in www-data.
[06:31] <r0gue_> led-bandit, some advices
[06:31] <led-bandit> noooooo
[06:31] <r0gue_> hahahaha
[06:31] <led-bandit> thats why his ls -l still says this http://pastebin.com/ztXr8K1b
[06:32] <linuxuz3r> hey pavanai
[06:32] <r0gue_> led-bandit, how to recover that history?
[06:32] <led-bandit> r0gue_, what does typing history give you
[06:33] <Jordan_U> led-bandit: Sorry, it looked like a possible mistake and I didn't want to wait to read all the scrollback before warning. With chown -R I would recommend always using full paths.
[06:33] <pavanai> spartak, i tried installing transmission then it said gtk is required
[06:33] <pavanai> spartak, after gtk was installed my theme changed
[06:33] <led-bandit> Jordan_U, good advice and one that i need to remember
[06:34] <harsh343> Jordan_U, what i can do now ?
[06:34] <led-bandit> does not matter i am batting 0/4 tonight
[06:34] <r0gue_> a long list of something like this http://pastebin.com/NhQXFx5t
[06:34] <neoark> what can u do if you / is getting filled?
[06:34] <neoark> is there way to move things off ?
[06:34] <neoark> to different partion
[06:34] <JohnTeddy> If I want someone to learn linux in a structured, time efficient manner, who isn't that computer literate.. but motivated.. what is a good method? Like learnpythonthehardway is great, it has 52 exercises, and you just do all the exercises. Is there something similar, like a basic course for linux, and shell commands, etc?
[06:34] <led-bandit> r0gue_, what distro are you using?
[06:34] <Jordan_U> harsh343: That was mostly a misunderstanding on my part. You can continue following led-bandit's instructions.
[06:35] <JohnTeddy> as well something for sqlite or mysql
[06:35] <r0gue_> linux mint 11 x64
[06:35] <harsh343> Jordan_U, ok
[06:35] <Mitchell_> does anyone know how to keep cpu at half speed? my laptop overheats if it goes into the top power state
[06:35] <spartak> pavanai, I do not know about this actually, but, I suppose, if I use Ubuntu, I will not required to install GTK since I am already using GNOME. It seems that you are using Kubuntu or Xubuntu. Am I right?
[06:35] <led-bandit> r0gue_, i would ask in #mint then
[06:35] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I accidentally switched to console mode, how do I switch back to the GUI mode?
[06:35] <led-bandit> r0gue_, but that history is gone
[06:35] <haylo> yeah i wasnt going to say anything rOgue_ but that looks like a mint terminal to me! lolz
[06:35] <r0gue_> ubuntu=linux mint man pls try to help
[06:35] <harsh343> led-bandit, what i can do now ?
[06:35] <pavanai> linuxuz3r, am having a wierd problem
[06:36] <linuxuz3r> with 11.10?
[06:36] <r0gue_> so does every one pavanai
[06:36] <blampo> GDay!
[06:36] <pavanai> spartak,am using ubuntu 10.04
[06:36] <r0gue_> lol pavanai
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !mint | r0gue_
[06:36] <led-bandit> r0gue_, your history is gone with that username
[06:36] <blampo> how can I can chagne the intergrated ubuntu player ?
[06:36] <blampo> like change the banshee.
[06:36] <pavanai> r0gue_, am in a realtrouble
[06:36] <haylo> he is fine ubottu its a linux question
[06:36] <r0gue_> hmm
[06:36] <Mitchell_> How can i limit cpu frequency?
[06:36] <haylo> same thing could happen with ubuntu and you know it
[06:37] <r0gue_> thanks for support haylo, led-bandit, can you figure it out?
[06:37] <linuxuz3r> Mitchell_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=851912
[06:37] <Jordan_U> haylo: Ubottu is a bot. I was the one who sent the factoid, and I am an op in this channel. General linx support in ##linux. This channel only supports Ubuntu.
[06:37] <spartak> anyone have idea with Pavanai's problem? it is very weird to me
[06:38] <pavanai> cpu usage is 100%
[06:38] <harsh343> led-bandit, there ?
[06:38] <blampo> pavanai, type `top` in terminal and see what is clogging up the process
[06:38] <led-bandit> harsh343, i would ask in #ubuntu-server
[06:39] <led-bandit> r0gue_, your history is gone with that username
[06:39] <pavanai> blampo, root with 4%
[06:39] <harsh343> led-bandit, ok
[06:39] <blampo> Can someone tell me how to change the integrated player ? I can change my defualt player but I want integrate something else with audio menu.
[06:39] <harsh343> I m online here
[06:39] <blampo> pavanai, then why you think your process is 100% ?
[06:39] <r0gue_> isn't there any way to recover led-bandit?
[06:40] <haylo> this channel is filled with idle chatter about how to get things into the launcher and why doesnt 11.10 work questions
[06:40] <led-bandit> r0gue_, do you have a backup of ~ ?
[06:40] <r0gue_> no
[06:40] <sinisterguy> hey, I've been having problems with the ppa repositories lately when I try to apt-get update. I keep getting bzip2 errors complaining that the file ends unexpectedly. Then i get BADSIG errors from gpg at the end. Any ideas? I'm trying to add the kxstudio ppa
[06:40] <blampo> haylo, I think this is the support channel or I am missing something ?
[06:40] <server__> woow
[06:40] <led-bandit> r0gue_, then not that i am aware of
[06:40] <server__> i am using ubuntu for 5 years... i am a programmer, but unity really really suck
[06:40] <Jordan_U> blampo: This is the support channel for Ubuntu. Welcome :)
[06:40] <server__> who invented this???
[06:41] <pavanai> blampo, after system bootsup its 100% if i try to shutdown or logout it shows an app is still running
[06:41] <linuxuz3r> server__: unity is cool in someways
[06:41] <r0gue_> ok, how to backup that history?led-bandit?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> !ot | server__ linuxuz3r
[06:41] <led-bandit> r0gue_, to back up your bash history you need a non borked history
[06:41] <linuxuz3r> server__: gnome3 is cool in someways
[06:41] <server__> i need to see the open windows
[06:41] <server__> i have always twenty windows open :D
[06:41] <led-bandit> server__, try gnome 3 fallback
[06:41] <server__> i can see jack
[06:42] <linuxuz3r> oh yeah that
[06:42] <server__> i use gnome classic
[06:42] <server__> that sucks also
[06:42] <server__> i cant move toolbars no icons
[06:42] <server__> i am sad
[06:42] <pavanai> blampo, then all the spawned windows of file manager closes and cpu usage becomes normal
[06:42] <server__> really sad
[06:42] <led-bandit> server__, use the alt key to move things
[06:42] <server__> where are the open windows?
[06:42] <server__> i have no 10 terminals open
[06:42] <r0gue_> ok, how to backup non borked history?
[06:42] <led-bandit> server__, are you running gnome 3 fallback?
[06:42] <server__> where are they?
[06:42] <server__> now 2 off course
[06:42] <Jordan_U> r0gue_: led-bandit: If you'd like to continue discussion problems with Mint please move to another channel like ##linux here on freenode or #linuxmint-help on spotchat.
[06:42] <Akaitora> hello, I'm having a problem with the NowPlaying Screenlet and Rhythmbox in Ubuntu 10.04. You probably hear this a lot: the screenlet does not show track name or album cover while music is playing in Rhytmbox.
[06:42] <server__> gnome 3 is to fancy also
[06:43] <linuxuz3r> wait for gnome 3.2
[06:43] <server__> i think of switchin to PcBSD
[06:43] <server__> but that is KDE :(
[06:43] <led-bandit> Jordan_U, its a bash history question
[06:43] <linuxuz3r> hope fully they fix the intuitivity of gnome
[06:43] <linuxuz3r> 3
[06:43] <server__> i think ubuntu is for the generation "social media"
[06:43] <server__> social media users are losers
[06:43] <Jordan_U> led-bandit: I know.
[06:43] <harsh343> led-bandit, in this http://pastebin.com/ztXr8K1b , I am able to open my harsh, zendtest, zf-tutorial folder except dashboard_devtest folder
[06:44] <server__> if gnome 3 suck i switch to PcBSD
[06:44] <server__> social media crap
[06:44] <led-bandit> server__, try gnome 3 fallback
[06:44] <server__> ok thanks
[06:44] <pavanai> blampo, then all the spawned windows of file manager closes and cpu usage becomes normal
[06:44] <haylo> i think that ubuntu would prefer all linux users to go away so they could awnser questions for the people they sel software too
[06:44] <pavanai> blampo, any help?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> server__: This channel is for Ubuntu support questions only. Please stick to suppot and move other discussion to another channel. This is your last warning.
[06:45] <Mitchell_> how can i limit cpu frequency? last time i did it i had to edit a config file and didnt need anything extra, i want to do it that way again
[06:45] <harsh343> led-bandit, I am not able to open my php, dashboard_devtest and zendtest folder except all others are open
[06:45] <server__> why is everybody fucks it up in the world?
[06:45] <N00B_> xD
[06:45] <server__> i am a one percenter
[06:45] <Jordan_U> !language | server__
[06:45] <linuxuz3r> Mitchell_: i know you can do it i forgot how to do it though
[06:45] <N00B_> i need help
[06:45] <server__> i want a os for the one percenters
[06:46] <server__> not for the mass
[06:46] <neoark> anyone have idea what size /boot should be
[06:46] <neoark> typically
[06:46] <linuxuz3r> 100mb
[06:46] <pavanai> _GoRDoN_, can u help me?
[06:46] <linuxuz3r> neoark: i set it to 100mb
[06:46] <Jordan_U> neoark: Why do you want a separate /boot/?
[06:46] <neoark> tying to redo partioning
[06:46] <pavanai> _jesse_, any help?
[06:47] <neoark> if i do /root first
[06:47] <linuxuz3r> neoark: make it 200mb
[06:47] <linuxuz3r> just to be sure
[06:47] <Jordan_U> neoark: Unless you have a specific reason to use a separate /boot partition I would recommend against it.
[06:47] <led-bandit> harsh343, you permissions are not correct
[06:47] <N00B_> when i try to install update this error pops up: http://pastebin.com/YNKHgzQp
[06:47] <neoark> right now i have / and /home
[06:47] <pavanai> i think nobody here knows the solution to my problem
[06:47] <neoark> ./ was 10gb it got filled up
[06:48] <floydsprite> how do you ecrypt a folder in ssh terminal
[06:48] <neoark> i am forced to reformat
[06:48] <harsh343> led-bandit, what i copy from sudo nautilus only this folder have no permission otherwise all have
[06:48] <pavanai> _harri_,
[06:48] <TheDigitalNinja> Anyone here ever set up postfix? I could really use some help with http://serverfault.com/questions/329185/postfix-not-connecting-to-sql-database
[06:48] <led-bandit> harsh343, your permissions are not correct
[06:48] <N00B_> will anyone help me?
[06:48] <harsh343> led-bandit, then what next ?
[06:48] <led-bandit> harsh343, i pasted the commands to run from the terminal
[06:48] <TheDigitalNinja> N00B_: What do you need?
[06:48] <floydsprite> how do you ecrypt a folder in ssh terminal anyoe???
[06:49] <led-bandit> harsh343, cd /var/www
[06:49] <N00B_> when i try to pudate this error comes : http://pastebin.com/YNKHgzQp
[06:49] <harsh343> led-bandit, then ?
[06:49] <N00B_> update*
[06:49] <Mitchell_> also how do i monitor the cpu temperature? used to use sensors-applet but just updated to unity
[06:50] <N00B_> @ TheDigitalNinja i installed KDE recently and all these types of errors started coming
[06:50] <led-bandit> harsh343, sudo chmod 755 -R /var/www
[06:50] <TheDigitalNinja> N00B_: And thats when you run apt-get update amd apt-get upgrade ?
[06:50] <floydsprite> how do you password protect a dir in ssh terminal
[06:51] <harsh343> led-bandit, now ?
[06:51] <led-bandit> floydsprite, by password protecting ssh?
[06:51] <harsh343> restart apache ?
[06:51] <TheDigitalNinja> floydsprite: look into gpg
[06:51] <led-bandit> yes
[06:51] <N00B_> TheDigitalNinja : its when i try to use the Ubuntu update software , also for no reason my ubuntu software center is removed
[06:51] <neoark> if i create /boot
[06:51] <N00B_> update manager
[06:51] <harsh343> led-bandit, gr8 now workd
[06:51] <neoark> first i can add all the other space to lvm
[06:51] <harsh343> works*
[06:52] <TheDigitalNinja> try removinging kde. If you really want the kde interface try kbuntu
[06:52] <harsh343> led-bandit, thanks alots
[06:52] <neoark> Jordan_U ^
[06:52] <N00B_> ._.
[06:52] <floydsprite> lol but i have ppl i share my server with and thanks for the gpg info
[06:52] <N00B_> sudo apt-get purge kde-desktop?
[06:52] <harsh343> led-bandit, thanks alots dear
[06:52] <led-bandit> harsh343, glad it works !!
[06:53] <TheDigitalNinja> sudo apt-get remove kde-desktop
[06:53] <N00B_> i cant do anything, it say : E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[06:54] <floydsprite> any good links to look at on the gpg
[06:55] <led-bandit> floydsprite, what are you trying to do?
[06:55] <TheDigitalNinja> N00B_: try that apt-get -f    should try and auto fix stuff
[06:56] <TheDigitalNinja> floydsprite: http://goo.gl/9B30Q
[06:56] <floydsprite> led-bandit working on password protecting a dir
[06:56] <N00B_> ok i did and after that i tried to remove KDE and this happened ( TheDigitalNinja ) http://pastebin.com/TYxgb2E6
[06:56] <led-bandit> floydsprite, on ssh or on a webserver?
[06:56] <neoark> what is difference between logical partion and lvm?
[06:56] <neoark> and know?
[06:56] <dassie> I'm trying to build this ANSI C port of unix, but with make I get an error saying bits/predefs.h is missing. Has anyone had this issue before?
[06:56] <Mitchell_> how do i install xfce and how much will i need to dowload to do it? i have dial up
[06:56] <floydsprite> led on ssh
[06:57] <TheDigitalNinja> N00B_  just try apt-get update  apt-get upgrade aftert the apt-get -f
[06:57] <led-bandit> N00B_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[06:57] <floydsprite> led-bandit on ssh
[06:57] <N00B_> illl check out you both
[06:57] <pavanai> any help?pls......
[06:57] <led-bandit> floydsprite, so they login over ssh and you want them to only have access to certain folders?
[06:58] <Evilkiss> HI!
[06:58] <pavanai> quit:fedup
[06:58] <pavanai> Evilkiss, hello
[06:59] <eristikophiles> N00B_- the kde package manager is called muon
[06:59] <eristikophiles> it's pretty good, similar to synaptic in arrangement
[06:59] <Evilkiss> Anybody use ubuntu 10.04 and sound output as optical/coaxial?
[06:59] <eristikophiles> if you're stuck in cli mode only, or prefer cli, then you can always exit xorg entirely and mess with gnome and kde there. though i figure letting muon fix your stuff will work better
[06:59] <N00B_> led-bandit : it says unmet dependencies, so i cant do anything
[06:59] <eristikophiles> or apt-get -f etc
[07:00] <eristikophiles> N00B_- have you tried just installing that package first? libcaribou-common ?
[07:00] <pavanai> N00B_, can u help me?
[07:00] <N00B_> TheDigitalNinja : thanks your command seems working
[07:00] <eristikophiles> pavanai- no one can help you until you frame your question
[07:01] <led-bandit> floydsprite, what folders are trying to restrict?
[07:01] <N00B_> pavanai : cant you read my username i am n00b xD sorry i cant, i not not enough experienced in Debian
[07:01] <pavanai> N00B_, its ubuntu
[07:01] <floydsprite> Long story Led-bandit but any folder will do
[07:02] <N00B_> pavanai ubuntu is debian based, duh
[07:02] <pavanai> N00B_, my nautilus keeps on spawning on gnome panel after installing gtk
[07:02] <led-bandit> floydsprite, so they log into the ssh server and you only want them to have access to certain folders?
[07:03] <N00B_> pavanai i dont know debain! and its branches (ubuntu) i am comportable with YasT
[07:03] <N00B_> sorry
[07:03] <pavanai> N00B_, i know that
[07:03] <pavanai> N00B_, ok
[07:03] <pavanai> N00B_, its ok
[07:03] <N00B_> yeah, then ask non noobs xD
[07:03] <N00B_> :)
[07:04] <eristikophiles> pavanai- i can't help with gnome-related stuff sorry. i use kde
[07:04] <pavanai> ericm|ubuntu, my nautilus keeps on spawning on  panel after installing gtk and my cpu usage is 100%
[07:04] <urlin2u> lol
[07:05] <pavanai> eristikophiles,  my nautilus keeps on spawning on  panel after installing gtk and my cpu usage is 100%
[07:05] <Evilkiss> Is somebody here use ubuntu 10.04 and receiver?
[07:05] <led-bandit> floydsprite, with the information you are giving me i cant help much
[07:06] <derklempner> can anybody help ne with an NFS issue?
[07:06] <eristikophiles> pavanai- yeah, i don't have nautilus, or gnome panels. ;p i've always used kubuntu :)
[07:06] <eristikophiles> (for desktop linux)
[07:06] <eristikophiles> N00B_- did you manage to clean your package database?
[07:06] <led-bandit> floydsprite, pavanai what versoin of ubuntu are you using?
[07:07] <led-bandit> doh
[07:07] <led-bandit> pavanai what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:07] <pavanai> led-bandit, 10.04
[07:08] <led-bandit> pavanai, whats the problem
[07:08] <pavanai> my nautilus keeps on spawning on gnome panel after installing gtk and my cpu usage is 100%
[07:09] <pavanai> led-bandit, my nautilus keeps on spawning on gnome panel after installing gtk and my cpu usage is 100%
[07:09] <led-bandit> pavanai, have you restarted your computer?
[07:09] <pavanai> led-bandit, many times
[07:10] <N00B_> TheDigitalNinja : problem not olved yet D: it says Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.
[07:10] <led-bandit> pavanai, what did you install that caused this problem?
[07:10] <pavanai> led-bandit,if i try to shutdown or logout it shows an app is still running
[07:10] <pavanai> then all the spawned windows of file manager closes and cpu usage becomes normal
[07:10] <pavanai> led-bandit, gtk+2
[07:10] <led-bandit> pavanai, what app is running?
[07:11] <pavanai> led-bandit, filemanager
[07:11] <pavanai> led-bandit, i installed this gtk+2 for tansmission 2.4
[07:12] <N00B_> anyone help me?
[07:12] <led-bandit> pavanai, have you tried removing gtk+2 and transmission 2.4?
[07:12] <pavanai> N00B_, wts ur problm?
[07:13] <led-bandit> i feel like i keep getting trolled
[07:13] <N00B_> pavanai : i cant install anything , it says a dependenncy error : http://pastebin.com/m3LMb9Ge
[07:13] <pavanai> led-bandit, am on it for that i've to download ~120mb
[07:14] <N00B_> led-bandit ? can you help me? http://pastebin.com/m3LMb9Ge
[07:14] <pavanai> N00B_, wts d software u last installed
[07:14] <Richie086> N00B_: what was it you were trying to install
[07:15] <led-bandit> pavanai, did you add any other repos to get transmission 2.4?
[07:15] <pavanai> led-bandit, no
[07:15] <pavanai> led-bandit, i downlaoded the source
[07:15] <N00B_> i was trying to install updates, and last things i installed are 1.teeworlds game 2.KDE 3.Xfce ( pavanai Richie086 )
[07:16] <TimLoal> whats the off topic ubuntu channel?  I feel the need for a rant and wouldn't want to disturbe you all here
[07:16] <pavanai> N00B_, send me a screenshot
[07:17] <N00B_> okay
[07:17] <led-bandit> TimLoal, #ubuntu-offtopic ??
[07:17] <TimLoal> i'll settle for  quickie here :b
[07:18] <TimLoal> led-bandit thanks
[07:18] <led-bandit> rant for me 2
[07:18] <N00B_> brb ill just restart ( pavanai )
[07:18] <TimLoal> i'll rant enough for both of us don't worry
[07:18] <stochastic> Hi I'm looking for help getting an nvidia driver loaded on my new sony laptop, where's the best channel for this?
[07:18] <led-bandit> i dont think thats possible :P
[07:18] <pavanai> N00B_, ok
[07:18] <TimLoal> but pm me with your issues and i'll bespoke something just for you
[07:19] <TimLoal> led-bandit trust me i'm a doctor ;)
[07:19] <led-bandit> trolls ever where how is that for a subject TimLoal ?
[07:19] <led-bandit> stochastic, does the current driver not work?
[07:19] <TimLoal> i have a PHD in tollology so let me at em ;D
[07:20] <stochastic> led-bandit, the default installed driver only gives 800x600 resolution
[07:20] <led-bandit> stochastic, i meant the nvidia driver
[07:21] <TimLoal> just for a one liner here Ubuntu SUCKS A LARGE ONE :p
[07:21]  * stochastic is not sure what the default is if it's an nvidia or not
[07:22] <Richie086> stochastic: did you try to install the video driver via the GUI?
[07:23] <stochastic> Richie086, I did briefly, the instructions told me to run an nvidia command as root and reboot, upon reboot the xserver did not load
[07:24] <stochastic> just stuck at plymouth
[07:24] <Richie086> ah so you have no ability to load the gui, just command line?
[07:24] <stochastic> I've booted into a recovery shell now, but forget the last time I had to fuddle with drivers so these commands are vague to me
[07:24] <floydsprite> now can you read it
[07:25] <led-bandit> floydsprite, ??
[07:25] <Richie086> hmm.. well, in ubuntu, you are usually better off installing video card drivers via the System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[07:25] <Richie086> in the gui
[07:26] <stochastic> where is the xorg.conf file again?
[07:26] <led-bandit> Richie086, are you on 11.10?
[07:27] <Richie086> Nope
[07:27] <Richie086> why?
[07:27] <Richie086> did they remove that?
[07:27] <stochastic> yeah, I hate the ubiquity switch away from that System > Administration route
[07:27] <led-bandit> Richie086, cause thats what i would say to do but you cant do it exactly that way any more
[07:27]  * stochastic is interested in getting xfce going for now
[07:27] <Richie086> wtf!  i swear canonical is purposely fucking things up in ubuntu..  why change from that?  it worked so well!
[07:28] <Richie086> what do you have to do now?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> !language | Richie086
[07:28] <Richie086> sorry
[07:28] <led-bandit> Richie086, click on user name and then system settings additional drivers with gnome 3 fallback
[07:29] <led-bandit> i dont know if that works with unity or not
[07:29] <Richie086> what do you have to do in order to install video drivers now?
[07:29] <Richie086> i dont use unity at all
[07:29] <stochastic> does anyone stay on Unity?
[07:29] <Richie086> cant stand it.. ive given it a few days to see if i could work with it, but it just is not going to happen
[07:29] <stochastic> I hope ubuntu doesn't
[07:29] <led-bandit> Richie086,  me as well
[07:30] <stochastic> anyways, that doesn't help me with nvidia drivers yet
[07:30] <led-bandit> gnome 3 fallback is ok
[07:30] <Richie086> supposedly they are getting rid of synaptic and just using the ubuntu software center, does anyone know if that is true?
[07:30]  * stochastic switches xorg.conf files back to the backup
[07:30] <led-bandit> stochastic, what drivers are you trying to install?
[07:30] <led-bandit> Richie086, you can still install synaptic but it does not come installed as default
[07:30] <Richie086> even tho i usually just use apt-get on the cli, there are times when synaptic is much easier to use..
[07:30] <Richie086> ah ok
[07:31] <stochastic> I don't know, I'm just trying to get away from the 800x600 resolution
[07:31] <floydsprite> led-bandit i am working on a shared server and as a joke my buddy keeps deleting things in my folder i wont to make it so he cant do that anymore and all i have to work with is ssh
[07:31] <stochastic> I don't even know the chipset of this driver as it's a brand new comp
[07:31] <Richie086> stochastic: do you know the model # of your chipset?
[07:31] <Richie086> stochastic: lspci | grep vga
[07:31] <led-bandit> floydsprite, do you login with diffrent login names?
[07:31] <Richie086> try that
[07:31] <floydsprite> no
[07:32] <led-bandit> so same login names??
[07:32] <N00B_> OMG i cant login to ubuntu (default)
[07:32] <floydsprite> yes
[07:32] <stochastic> Richie086, that command returns nothing
[07:32] <Richie086> try just lspci
[07:32] <Richie086> and look for nvidia in the list
[07:32] <led-bandit> floydsprite, you cant do that with ssh
[07:32] <nighter> Is it possible to build an rpm file without Lzma as dependencies or that it take all versions of Lzma.
[07:32] <Richie086> has to be in there somewhere
[07:33] <floydsprite> really
[07:33] <nighter> can't get that to work
[07:33] <Richie086> could you post the output to pastebin stochastic?
[07:33] <led-bandit> floydsprite, no because if you create a file with gpg or use a encrypted file he can still just delete them it wont keep them safe
[07:34] <N00B_> Richie086 : is emerald causing all trouble?
[07:34] <Richie086> huh?
[07:34] <led-bandit> floydsprite, having the same login you both have the same rights to the files so there is no security you could ask for a diffrent login name
[07:34] <floydsprite> lol yeah i found that out i gpg the shit out of some stuff then it just got deleted
[07:34] <stochastic> Richie086, http://pastebin.ubntu.com/732815/
[07:34] <floydsprite> lol
[07:34] <N00B_> emerald window manager
[07:35] <led-bandit> floydsprite, you are in a better mood about it than i would be
[07:35] <floydsprite> we are just starting out so there is much to learn not so much to loose
[07:36] <led-bandit> floydsprite, thats why servers need to be setup  as a server not like windows workgroups
[07:36] <Richie086> stochastic: um.... ubntu?
[07:36] <led-bandit> led-bandit, or have both users and group work areas
[07:36] <Richie086> did you type that or copy paste the URL
[07:36] <led-bandit> floydsprite,  or have both users and group work areas
[07:36] <stochastic> Richie086, sorry, re-typing on my laptop so I can't exactly copy/paste here
[07:37] <stochastic> Richie086, and this laptop is notorious for keystrokes just disappearing
[07:37] <N00B_> led-bandit ?
[07:37] <Richie086> stochastic:  nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M]
[07:37] <Richie086> strange that the lspci | grep vga didnt turn anything up
[07:37] <Richie086> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev a2)
[07:37] <Richie086> should have found it
[07:38] <stochastic> ahh, caps sensitive command, should have been:  lspci | grep VGA
[07:38] <stochastic> or | grep nVidia
[07:38] <Richie086> yeah
[07:38] <Richie086> well
[07:38] <stochastic> I had done only lower case
[07:39] <Richie086> my bad
[07:39] <N00B_> any help with this ? richie086 http://pastebin.com/vdesRc2T
[07:39] <N00B_> it say dependency libcaribou , but it cannot be installed
[07:39] <N00B_> says*
[07:39] <floydsprite> led-bandit work group area?
[07:40] <led-bandit> floydsprite, yes user areas for just that user things then workgroup areas for group work
[07:40] <Richie086> stochastic: might have some issues with that chipset
[07:40] <floydsprite> oh got you
[07:40] <Richie086> http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=185790
[07:40] <Richie086> check that ouyt
[07:40]  * stochastic looks
[07:41] <Richie086> not good news
[07:41] <Richie086> two people posting saying they cant get it to work, 0 replies
[07:41] <Richie086> N00B_: one sec
[07:41] <stochastic> It does mention that 254 version of nvidia drivers do work
[07:42] <N00B_> sure Richie086
[07:42] <Richie086> is that the version you have installed
[07:42] <Richie086> ?
[07:42] <stochastic> Richie086, no, I have no clue how to obtain that version and install it
[07:42] <Richie086> N00B_: have you tried apt-get --fix-broken install
[07:43] <Richie086> N00B_: on the terminal
[07:43] <stochastic> Richie086, do you have any ideas where that information can be found?
[07:43] <Chat4627> Hi
[07:43] <N00B_> .
[07:43] <N00B_> yeah richie086?
[07:44] <k2sta> my laptop overheat after installing kubuntu 11.10 64bit. Temperature went up to 80 celcius. after installing graphic driver and useing i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 and pcie_aspm=force temperature went down to 55 to 65. but the fan keep spinning fast. please help to set my laptop fan speed?
[07:44] <N00B_> not yet
[07:44] <Richie086> stochastic: wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.44/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.44.run
[07:44] <Richie086> stochastic: type that on command line
[07:44] <galagala> how do i test if websites work in IE, while using ubuntu?
[07:44] <Richie086> do you have to do it on another pc?
[07:44] <N00B_> richie086 , same error "its not installable"
[07:44] <Richie086> if so, let me shorten it
[07:45] <N00B_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libcaribou0 : Depends: libcaribou-common (= 0.4.1-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0) but it is not installable
[07:45] <Richie086> galagala: IE tab for firefox?
[07:45] <Richie086> stochastic: wget http://goo.gl/avAlW
[07:46] <stochastic> Richie086, before I run that command I'm trying the GUI Aditional Drivers
[07:46] <Richie086> yep it woprks
[07:46] <Richie086> ah, well that shortened url works just as well if you decide to go that rouyte
[07:46] <stochastic> I'll let you know my progress
[07:47] <N00B_> .
[07:47] <Richie086> N00B_: have youy tried
[07:47] <Richie086> N00B_: sudo apt-get clean
[07:47] <Richie086> ?
[07:47] <N00B_> not yet :D
[07:47] <k2sta> galagala: ie tab for firefox wont work. you can run windows in virtual mechine in ubuntu.
[07:47] <Richie086> well, try it!
[07:48] <Richie086> N00B_: sometimes resolving dependency issues like that can be a huge pain in the ass to get fixed..
[07:48] <k2sta> galagala: or you can use these websites http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/
[07:49] <Richie086> virtual machine is not a bad idea if you have the system resources
[07:49] <galagala> k2sta, thanks!
[07:49] <N00B_> Richie086 well youve found that pain, its not working D: we know the dependency ( libcaribou0 : Depends: libcaribou-common (= 0.4.1-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0)  but it says ITS NOT INSTALLABLE :(
[07:49] <Richie086> hmm
[07:49] <Richie086> not installable
[07:49] <N00B_> D:
[07:49] <N00B_> yeah
[07:50] <k2sta> galagala: :)
[07:50] <N00B_> and i cant format my laptop also D: so now you guys are only my home
[07:51] <stochastic> Richie086, so the 'post-release updates' option in the GUI did install (the release version did not) but upon reboot I A) have better resolution B) have no window borders in xfce (ubiquity is fine though)
[07:51] <N00B_> Richie086 http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/367071
[07:52] <Richie086> no window borders?
[07:52] <Richie086> hmm
[07:53] <Richie086> I dont have much exp with xfce, so i dont know if ic an help you there
[07:53] <Richie086> i have seen that in gnome with compiz installed if something gets jacked up tho
[07:53] <Nicekiwi> Getting some errors when trying to update with apt: http://pastebin.com/YJqMGhW0 help?
[07:53] <Trabbanana> sup
[07:53] <stochastic> I should mention that the ubiquity borders don't look terribly pretty so it could be a different server in the back right now
[07:54] <Trabbanana> what to people think of the Gnome 3 interface?
[07:54] <stochastic> Trabbanana, better than the Ubiquity interface but I miss gnome2 a lot
[07:54] <Richie086> N00B_: yeah i see that, hmm.. not too sure what to make of it tho
[07:55] <auronandace> stochastic: don't you mean unity, ubiquity is the ubuntu installer
[07:55] <N00B_> Richie086 now what should i do if this ? this is rthe correnct version i need https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing/+build/2859072
[07:55] <Trabbanana> yeah me too stochastic, I generally operate on a netbook and unity has all but killed Ubuntu for me.
[07:55] <stochastic> ahh yeah, blunder
[07:55] <Richie086> Trabbanana: same here
[07:55] <N00B_> richie086 how to install it?
[07:55] <stochastic> auronandace, too many u names now
[07:56] <Trabbanana> anyone run 11.10 with xfce or other to make it a nicer experience?
[07:56] <Richie086> N00B_: are you running 64 bit?
[07:56] <stochastic> I'm running in xfce
[07:56] <Richie086> or 32?
[07:56] <Richie086> i am going to guess 32
[07:56] <Trabbanana> worth it stochastic?
[07:56] <N00B_> yeah richie086 and i need that version (link)
[07:56] <quixotedon> how can we open dat file?
[07:57] <stochastic> it's a bit old school, but there are some nice themes out there Trabbanana
[07:57] <Richie086> yeah what?  the question was, 32 bit or 64 bit
[07:57] <stochastic> what defines 'worth it'?  give it a try Trabbanana and see if it fits you
[07:57] <Richie086> yeah cannot be an answer to that question
[07:57] <Trabbanana> yeah I should, I really like docky as a replacement to unity, I suppose xfce is a little like that
[07:58] <Richie086> N00B_: ?
[07:58] <N00B_> Richie086 i use 64bit :D
[07:58] <Richie086> ah
[07:58] <Richie086> hmm
[08:00] <N00B_> D:
[08:01] <N00B_> richie086 this error comes when i use sudo apt-get install -f : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:01] <Mitchell_> i just installed a new display driver and i lost access to almost everthing, can someone help?
[08:01] <Richie086> N00B_: try wget https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing/+build/2859072/+files/libcaribou0_0.4.1-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0_amd64.deb
[08:02] <Nicekiwi> Getting some errors when trying to update with apt: http://pastebin.com/YJqMGhW0 help?
[08:02] <Richie086> hopefully you are on the computer you need to download the package for
[08:02] <Richie086> N00B_: and then
[08:02] <Richie086> N00B_: sudo dpkg -i libcaribou0_0.4.1-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0_amd64.deb
[08:02] <N00B_> ill try :D
[08:03] <Richie086> obviously, do this on the command line
[08:03] <N00B_> fail D:
[08:03] <Richie086> how so?
[08:04] <Richie086> N00B_: what failed?
[08:05] <N00B__> no luck richie086
[08:06] <Mitchell_> i just installed a display driver and now the bar at the side is missing. i can access terminal by running something on my desktop in terminal and opening a new one from that, can someone help me?
[08:06] <Richie086> N00B_: you need to be a bit be responsive in your replies, how did you have no luck?  did the wget fail?  did the sudo dpkg -i fail?
[08:06] <OldSmurf> I'm using empathy and it suddenly refuses to connect to MSN. In dmesg I can see some messages about apparmor, which I don't know if they are related, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/732834/. Does anyone got any pointers where to look?
[08:07] <N00B__> sorry richie086, i dind trespond :(, and this is the error http://pastebin.com/GaqS6jmX
[08:08] <Richie086> N00B_: did you run the wget command to download the package, or is the package in the current directory you are in?
[08:08] <Richie086> nm
[08:08] <Richie086> he is gone
[08:08] <Richie086> good thing is spent so much time on that..
[08:08] <N00B__> what?
[08:08] <Richie086> i thoiught u left
[08:08] <Richie086> i saw a quit message
[08:09] <Richie086> 23:58 -!- N00B_ [75c40676@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.196.6.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
[08:09] <N00B__> i am mad xD you are so helpful
[08:09] <N00B__> Richie086 i didnt understand :did you run the wget command to download the package, or is the package in the current directory you are in? [13:38] <Richie086> nm
[08:09] <Deesl> how can I grant a non administrator access to connect to any Wifi?
[08:09] <Deesl> I only have shell access to a Ubuntu LAptop
[08:09] <Richie086> N00B_: wget https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing/+build/2859072/+files/libcaribou0_0.4.1-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0_amd64.deb
[08:10] <Richie086> that command
[08:10] <N00B__> oh
[08:10] <N00B__> i downoaded it now
[08:10] <dambo> is it possible to swap the integrated player in ubuntu ? Banshee is not my thing.
[08:10] <Richie086> ok, try the sudo pkg -i command now
[08:11] <N00B__> ok
[08:11] <auronandace> dambo: install whatever you like
[08:11] <Deesl> ant help for me?
[08:11] <N00B__> richie096 command not found lol
[08:11] <Mitchell_> dambo: i use xbmc. google it, i dont think its in the repository
[08:11] <dambo> auronandace: I want to use the buttons that are under audio menu.
[08:11] <Richie086> N00B__: what command, dpkg?
[08:11] <llutz_> Deesl: try nmcli
[08:12] <N00B__> sudo pkg -i
[08:12] <Richie086> dpkg
[08:12] <Richie086> not pkg
[08:12] <Richie086> dpkg
[08:12] <dr_willis> xbmc and boxee are nice
[08:12] <dambo> Mitchell_: Can you use the buttons under the audio menu ?
[08:12] <auronandace> dambo: oh, i hope someone can help you with that
[08:12] <N00B__> ok , i have to open terminal in the window where there is the downlload file?
[08:12] <N00B__> ok
[08:12] <Richie086> i hope it is in your home directory
[08:12] <Mitchell_> dambo: in what?
[08:12] <N00B__> yeah
[08:12] <Richie086> try ls -la, you should see the file in your home directory (hopefully)
[08:13] <jaybutts> So everything trys to open with gedit even my homefolder...anyone know a quick fix...
[08:13] <N00B__> :D
[08:13] <Deesl> llutz_: I can see the connections... but how can I allow a non admin user to connect/
[08:13] <Deesl> ?
[08:13] <Richie086> N00B__: was it there?
[08:13] <N00B__> no it wasnt
[08:13] <dambo> Mitchell_: the buttons in audio widget/menu
[08:14] <N00B__> now it is, but it says sudo pkg -i
[08:14] <Richie086> did you run the wget command i told you to run?  if not, run it now
[08:14] <N00B__> which one?
[08:14] <Richie086> sudo DPKG -I
[08:14] <Richie086> not in upper case
[08:14] <N00B__> ok
[08:14] <Richie086> all lower case
[08:14] <Richie086> hit caps lock accidently
[08:14] <Richie086> note the 'd' infront of 'pkg'[
[08:14] <N00B__> Richie096 : dpkg: error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
[08:14] <dr_willis> case matters  ;}
[08:15] <shervinAra> is there any GUI  tool for ndiswraper ? how can i use ndiswrapper ?
[08:15] <Richie086> N00B__: yeah, you need the name of the package after the -i
[08:15] <N00B__> oh
[08:15] <Richie086> btw, if you type
[08:15] <N00B__> yeah?
[08:15] <Richie086> N00B__: sudo dpkg -i lib
[08:15] <Richie086> N00B__: and press tab twice
[08:15] <N00B__> ok
[08:15] <Richie086> it will autocomplete
[08:15] <Mitchell_> dambo: i dont know, i only just upgraded to a unity version. xbmc isnt like banshee at all, it only runs full screen and is designed to be used on a tv
[08:16] <Richie086> so you dont have to type the entre file name out
[08:16] <Richie086> tyr it
[08:16] <Richie086> *try it
[08:16] <N00B__> yeah
[08:16] <N00B__> Errors were encountered while processing:  libcaribou0
[08:16] <N00B__> ><
[08:16] <Richie086> hmm, yeah i am out of ideas now :(
[08:16] <dr_willis> Mitchell_: xbmc has 100x the features also
[08:16] <Mitchell_> yes it does
[08:16] <N00B__> :(
[08:16] <auronandace> !fixapt | N00B__
[08:17] <Richie086> hey yeah try that
[08:17] <Richie086> brb
[08:17] <dr_willis> Mitchell_:  \ in xbmc toggles fullscreen
[08:17] <N00B__> ok
[08:17] <TexasRussian> what program are ya'll trying to get working?
[08:17] <N00B__> ok ubotto
[08:18] <N00B__> ubottu : ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Errors were encountered while processing:  libcaribou0  gir1.2-caribou-1.0
[08:18] <tanath> can anyone explain this? http://pastebin.ca/2093274
[08:18] <N00B__> xD really? ubottu
[08:18] <N00B__> -.-
[08:19] <N00B__> auronandace : waht did you say? fixapt?
[08:19] <RudyValencia> Is the x64 version of Ubuntu pretty good? I have a 2nd generation Core (Sandy Bridge) CPU and want to be able to use all 8GB of RAM
[08:19] <N00B__> auronandace i got this erron atlast : ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Errors were encountered while processing:  libcaribou0  gir1.2-caribou-1.0
[08:19] <auronandace> N00B__: that was the command for the bot to show you that messaghe
[08:19] <dr_willis> RudyValencia:  yes its good
[08:19] <N00B__> lol
[08:19] <RudyValencia> ah
[08:19] <RudyValencia> okay cool
[08:19] <TexasRussian> RudyValencia, yes even the 12.04 release will recommend x64
[08:19] <tanath> afaik that should not happen...
[08:20] <N00B__> auronandace : i got this error : ldconfig deferred processing now taking place Errors were encountered while processing:  libcaribou0  gir1.2-caribou-1.0
[08:20] <TexasRussian> im running x64 now.
[08:20] <RudyValencia> x64 is now pretty well stablized hm?
[08:20] <auronandace> N00B__: i can't help you, i got to go
[08:20] <N00B__> ok
[08:20] <N00B__> bye
[08:20] <dr_willis> finally an end to the... why is 32bit reccomended faq...
[08:21] <TexasRussian> rudyvalencia, yes, mainly because flash 10-11 works well with ubuntu 64 bit
[08:21] <dr_willis> RudyValencia:  no issues here
[08:21] <RudyValencia> ah
[08:21] <TexasRussian> or rather adobe released good flash plugins for linux
[08:21] <llutz_> dr_willis: then they'll ask why 64 bit is recommended...
[08:21] <RudyValencia> good
[08:21] <xteensx> http://xteensx.info/    http://xteensx.info/    http://xteensx.info/    FREE PORN
[08:21] <dr_willis> sad when flash is the main reason.... ;)
[08:22] <tanath> anyone else have seriously broken wine?
[08:22] <RudyValencia> lol at xteensx :P
[08:22] <TexasRussian> somebody please ban xteensx
[08:22] <RudyValencia> they pop in, drop their junk and pop out
[08:22] <RudyValencia> :(
[08:23] <TexasRussian> RudyValencia, do you use intel CPUs or AMD?
[08:24] <RudyValencia> Intel 2nd-generation Core (Sandy Bridge chipset)
[08:24] <tanath> anyone have a clue what's going on here? http://pastebin.ca/2093274
[08:24] <N00B_> Richie096?
[08:24] <N00B_> Richie086 ?
[08:25] <grenoal> kernel 3.0.0 hangs the system during boot. any help?
[08:25] <N00B_> richie?
[08:26] <tanath> pretty confused. unless the command is running and falsely reporting that it doesn't exist...
[08:26] <TexasRussian> RudyValencia, definitely use 64, if it's a 64 bit processor that is.
[08:26] <RudyValencia> yeah
[08:27] <N00B_> 64 but OS utilizes all the RAM
[08:27] <RudyValencia> mmhmm
[08:27] <RudyValencia> I know, my Windows partition is x64
[08:27] <N00B_> ...
[08:27] <N00B_> im stuck
[08:28] <N00B_> BRB
[08:28] <grenoal> is linux-image-3.0.0-686-pae ffor 32- or 64bit?
[08:28] <llutz_> grenoal: 32
[08:28] <grenoal> thks
[08:28] <llutz_> grenoal: PAE is always  32bit (and crap)
[08:28] <grenoal> it hangs on boot-up.
[08:29] <grenoal> eventhough i have installed it, i have to fall back to 2.6.38
[08:30] <tanath> anyone have a clue what's going on here? this shouldn't happen... http://pastebin.ca/2093274
[08:30] <Mitchell_> whats better, gnome 3 or unity?
[08:30] <N00B_> KDE
[08:31] <jasef> Mitchell_, none, it's just what you prefer using
[08:31] <N00B_> Richie086 ?
[08:31] <tanath> Mitchell_, gnome 3
[08:31] <nomada> Mitchell Gnome3 and unity are very similar.
[08:31] <llutz_> !polls
[08:31] <jasef> tanath, not sure, have you tried using another shell to start it? Don't have much experience with zsh
[08:32] <tanath> jasef, same in bash
[08:32] <Mitchell_> will gnome 2 still work?
[08:32] <jasef> tanath, did you install wine with apt-get
[08:32] <nomada> I'll prefer to use som 2D User interface, like Gnome 2 or unity classic (in ubuntu 11.10 it came s with somes bugs, already)
[08:32] <tanath> jasef, aptitude
[08:32] <tanath> jasef, same thing, basically
[08:33] <jasef> tanath, Ah, main thing I wanted to know was if it was from the package
[08:33] <dupondje> People around with MSN issues ? :)
[08:33] <grenoal> peterS: eventhough i have installed it, i have to fall back to 2.6.38.
[08:33] <eefefe> hello everybody
[08:33] <jasef> tanath, Uhm... I'm not sure what's going on here, what are the permissions on /usr/bin/wine ?
[08:33] <x3cuti0n3r> hello
[08:34] <eefefe> türk var mı
[08:34] <eefefe> mirc bitmiş ya
[08:34] <llutz_> !tr
[08:34] <tanath> jasef, -rwxr-xr-x
[08:35] <tanath> jasef, weird, no?
[08:35] <jasef> tanath, .... Very.... I know this isn't Windows, but have you tried restarting at all?
[08:35] <Edico> hi
[08:35] <tanath> lol
[08:35] <tanath> no, i haven't\
[08:36] <Thelmaria> dupondje: Using empathy/
[08:36] <Edico> what is the file that holds the entries shown at the boot time when you choose which kernel to run?
[08:36] <tanath> jasef, brb i guess
[08:36] <jasef> tanath, >.> I hate suggesting it, but maybe you should try
[08:37] <llutz_> Edico: /boot/grub/grub.cfg  (not to be changed by hand)
[08:37] <Edico> llutz, how do I changed it?
[08:37] <nomada> Edico sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to change it.
[08:37] <llutz_> Edico: either change /etc/default/grub or /etc/grub.d/*, depends on what you want to change
[08:38] <nomada> Edico What do you want to change...? you have to be careful editing those files.
[08:38] <OldSmurf> dupondje, yep, unable to connect
[08:38] <nomada> The better way to do it is asking google "HowTo Change [this and that] on grub on ubuntu XX.YY"
[08:39] <N00B_> Richie086 ?
[08:39] <TXRussian|> Sup
[08:39] <dr_willis> the forums got some good grub info
[08:39] <tanath> jasef, no joy
[08:40] <jasef> tanath, :( this makes no sense. I have Wine installed from the packages too and mine works
[08:40] <N00B_> can anyone help me? i cant install anything on my ubuntu, and the install button on the package manager is also grayed out
[08:40] <TXRussian|> Lol i'm using my Android phone to use orc
[08:40] <starlon> how do I turn my music CDs into a library I can play via xmms2 or the like?
[08:40] <newbie947> hi.  i am using firestarter to configure iptables.  i have my outgoing traffic set to (restrictive, whitelist traffic) and i am wondering about the blocked connections from myself.  i see blocked connections from myself for port 67 all the time and once in a while on port 1900.  whats up with that?
[08:40] <nomada> N00B Are you connected to the web? :)
[08:40] <tanath> jasef, :-/ i was hoping it was a bug in package or something...
[08:40] <dupondje> Thelmaria: OldSmurf: https://launchpad.net/~dupondje/+archive/ppa/+files/python-papyon_0.5.5-1ubuntu3%7Edupondje_all.deb
[08:40] <TXRussian|> Irc•
[08:40] <dupondje> could you install this & test?
[08:40] <dupondje> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/papyon/+bug/887349
[08:41] <jasef> tanath, can you try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall wine
[08:41] <nomada> N00B have you tried with terminal?
[08:41] <dr_willis> starlon:  rip them to audio files.  several tools to do that
[08:41] <tanath> jasef, already reinstalled, and removed and installed...
[08:41] <N00B_> yeah namada , i cant install anything
[08:42] <nomada> nomada ;)
[08:42] <jasef> tanath, 'apt-cache policy wine' ?
[08:42] <newbie947> i realize port 67 is for dhcp and 1900 is for something related but i dont understand why i would get ongoing dhcp requests when i already have an ip address assigned
[08:42] <jasef> Can you tell me the Installed: version?
[08:42] <N00B_> nomada lol
[08:43] <tanath> jasef, installed, 1.2.3-0ubuntu1
[08:43] <jasef> newbie947, DHCP clients will repoll for a lease renewal at something like 80% of the time through their lease
[08:43] <Thelmaria> dupondje: I don't have issues / an MSN account, sorry.
[08:43] <jasef> What version of Ubuntu do you have? 11.10
[08:43] <newbie947> no 10.04
[08:43] <Edico> nomada, I've uninstalled some kernels (linux-headers-...) and I want to remove the entries shown at boot time for those kernels
[08:43] <jasef> Sorry newbie947 that was directed at tanath :)
[08:43] <jasef> My bad for not putting the name in
[08:43] <llutz_> Edico: linux-headers aren't kernels
[08:44] <llutz_> Edico: remove the kernel images and grub should be updated
[08:44] <OldSmurf> dupondje, restarting empathy should be enough?
[08:44] <jasef> tanath, what was your Ubuntu version?
[08:44] <newbie947> i would like to eliminate these dhcp requests as i am trying to really lock down my firewall and i would like to see no blocked connections in my firewall log
[08:44] <N00B_> nomada , i cant even logout
[08:44] <jasef> newbie947, firewalls shouldn't block DHCP requests...
[08:45] <lericson> Hello fellow gentlements, I'm about to set up a service on an Ubuntu server and I was wondering how the Ubuntu environment handles custom services? On Gentoo for example, I would write an OpenRC rc script and add it to startup with `rc-update`.
[08:45] <tanath> jasef, 11.10. i just discovered 'lsb_release' is spitting out: No LSB modules are available.
[08:45] <newbie947> jasef i have outgoing set to restrictive
[08:45] <dr_willis> lericson:  see upstart docs
[08:45] <jasef> tanath, it should, without parameters
[08:45] <dr_willis> !upstart | lericson
[08:45] <dupondje> OldSmurf: yea
[08:45] <jasef> tanath, I have 12.04 installed but it's the same wine version :/
[08:45] <tanath> jasef, woops :P
[08:45] <OldSmurf> dupondje, in that case, it doesn't work for me
[08:46] <newbie947> will manually assigning my ip fix this?
[08:46] <dupondje> bleh :)
[08:46] <lericson> Thank you dr_willis
[08:46] <jasef> newbie947, well, yes, a manually assigned IP means no DHCP requests will be sent
[08:46] <lericson> dr_willis: Certainly a commendable effort this upstart, an event-driven rc system sounds like a good idea.
[08:47] <lericson> dr_willis: Is Upstart an init(1) replacement?
[08:47] <llutz_> lericson: sysV-init replacement
[08:47] <jasef> tanath, can you start Wine through the menus?
[08:47] <lericson> ISTM yes
[08:48] <tanath> jasef, no
[08:48] <newbie947> thank you
[08:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> morn all
[08:49] <ederico> hello everybody, I'm here to ask a question. Is Chrome/Chromium causing problems to anyone on Ubuntu 11.10? I'm noticing it is quite unstable for me and I'm wondering whether it is my system resources or anything else?
[08:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> it works finr for me ederico
[08:49] <RaTTuS|BIG> fine*
[08:49] <TXRussian> Ederico, its probably your system,
[08:50] <jasef> tanath, :| I find this highly strange. I assume you already googled the problem?
[08:50] <tanath> jasef, a bit. turned up nothing. was in the middle of it when you suggested a restart
[08:50] <ederico> ok, thanks
[08:50] <jasef> tanath, Oh... sorry about that :P
[08:50] <obert-> 'lo.i got a dell desktop,if i connect a new hd, could i be able to install linux on there?
[08:51] <N00B_> hey guys please help me, i think my APT is locked , it says "another program is using package system please exit it" when i just logged in
[08:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> obert- yes np
[08:51] <jussi> !aptfix | N00B_
[08:51] <TXRussian> Noon_ log out and log back in.
[08:51] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG: thanks. why then sometimes i hear that could be issues about hardware compatibility?
[08:51] <TXRussian> Noob_ log out and log back in
[08:53] <N00B_> jussi : it didnt work
[08:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> obert- - there is always a prosability - I've put 11.10 on several dell machines with no issues - but it always depnds ....
[08:53] <jasef> tanath, :/ sorry, I'm pretty much out of ideas on this... don't suppose you've had the problem with any other packages have you?
[08:53] <obert-> ah ok
[08:53] <N00B_> jussi : Errors were encountered while processing:  libcaribou0  gir1.2-caribou-1.0
[08:53] <TXRussian> I don't know why but I just drank two cups of coffee and its 3 in the morning
[08:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> obert- - if ytou ahve another disk to hand then swap it and give it a whirl
[08:53] <tanath> jasef, haven't seen it elsewhere, no
[08:54] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG scared that dell could be have something in order to can install there only the bought stuff
[08:54] <tanath> jasef, thanks for trying. maybe you can poke someone else? :P
[08:54] <obert-> their windows 7 OS and such,i meant
[08:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> na - if you removed the existing disk ten it can do nothing to it ...
[08:55] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG: is always about the default HD then?
[08:55] <RaTTuS|BIG> what model of dell ahave yoou got
[08:55] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG: limitations are in that hd
[08:55] <RaTTuS|BIG> damn my typing - need coffee
[08:55] <obert-> me too. it is mm Inspirion 570?
[08:55] <tanath> anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot this? http://pastebin.ca/2093274
[08:55] <Edico> llutz_, I solve it, I've run update-grub
[08:55] <RaTTuS|BIG> obert- give me 10 mins and I'll be back
[08:55] <jasef> tanath, one more idea, can you run 'ldd /usr/bin/wine' please?
[08:56] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG: doesnt seems that ubuntu is workin that good on my vm
[08:56] <tanath> jasef, not a dynamic executable
[08:56] <cemc> hi. I've added some more workspaces to my initial 4  in ubuntu 2d. is there a way to change the default 2 rows when pressing (Super+S) ?
[08:56] <ichbinder> hello. I have a friend's old laptop here, a Dell Inspiron 6400. It has major issues with Ubuntu 11.10 + Unity, i.e. it's extremely slow, unusable. So, I thought I'd install either KUbuntu or 10.04. Currently, the machine has dual-boot Ubuntu 11.10 and WinXP. Can I use Wubi, the windows ubuntu installer, to install a new ubuntu version over the existing one? Or should I burn a CD and boot from that?
[08:56] <phlak_user> tanath: why are you on zsh and not bash?
[08:56] <llutz_> Edico: should have been done automatically when removing through postrm-scripts...
[08:56] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG: yes no worry:) i've to understand how to open the case before:)
[08:56] <jasef> tanath, are you on an amd64 system?
[08:56] <tanath> jasef, yes
[08:56] <obert-> everytime i reboot the VM some settings are gone
[08:57] <obert-> i wish i could have another machine with native linux os:p
[08:57] <somsip> ichbinder: burn a CD and install over everything. Wubi would instlal in the windows partition which will not help running speed
[08:57] <tanath> phlak_user, 'cause it's better
[08:57] <jasef> tanath, this might not work, but the only difference between our wine apps is that yours is 64-bit, you might try installing the 32-bit version, 'sudo apt-get purge wine ; sudo apt-get install wine:i386' though if it says it wants to uninstall packages for the last one, might not be a good idea
[08:57] <tanath> phlak_user, can do things with zsh that bash doesn't. isn't phlak dead?
[08:58] <ichbinder> somsip: thanks for the answer! My friend wants the windows partition to be keep as it is... :-/ It's currently booted using grub.
[08:58] <ichbinder> to be kept
[08:58] <lericson> I don't get how I tell Upstart where my pid file is
[08:58] <tanath> jasef, why would file say it's dynamically linked, and ldd say it's not?
[08:58] <jasef> tanath, I'm not sure - might be a bug in the amd64 wine package.
[08:58] <somsip> ichbinder: so install over the existin 11.10? And maybe considr lighter version, maybe lubuntu or xubutu. I've not used kubuntu but remember KDE used tobe heavy in days of yore
[08:59] <llutz_> lericson: have a look on the /etc/init/ files
[08:59] <obert-> unity also is...meh
[08:59] <alumno69> adsoui
[08:59] <alumno69> eiii
[08:59] <obert-> i'll never gotcha computers beauviers
[08:59] <ichbinder> somsip: yes, install over existing 11.10. Leave everything else the same, like paritions and stuff. That is done the easiest way by burning a CD?
[09:00] <somsip> ichbinder: yep. Other options include from USB but sometimes that causes probs for people
[09:00] <PEC> chinoo mai
[09:00] <RaTTuS|BIG> obert- - should be fine - if you are still worried , get an external usb HD and install it there -
[09:00] <PEC> chinoo marikaaaaaa
[09:00] <alumno> PADEL
[09:00] <Tempra> feos
[09:00] <alumno> TEMPRA PIPA
[09:01] <ichbinder> somsip: I'll take a look at those too. My friend has not a lot of clue of computers/linux, but I want him to use Linux for safety, etc... haven't seen xubuntu or lubuntu, are they as intuitive and easy to handle as old gnome-ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:01] <Tempra> y tu puta
[09:01] <PEC> lordedii titeeeeeeeeufffffff
[09:01] <tanath> jasef, seems wine is just a meta/virtual package. couldn't install 32-bit due to conflict. reinstalling wine 1.3
[09:01] <tasslehoff> I need an rss reader/notifier with popups that don't go away until clicked. anyone seen such a thing?
[09:01] <gogeta> ichbinder: xfce acts alot like gnome 2
[09:01] <ichbinder> somsip: yeah, I've done from USB but not even sure if that old laptop supports booting from USB out of the box :)
[09:01] <somsip> ichbinder: slightly different interface, but much lighter than Unity/Gnome or KDE. Screenshots will be on the homepages for both projects
[09:01] <gogeta> ichbinder: they use a simler theme
[09:01] <somsip> ichbinder: so maybe better for old-ish laptop
[09:01] <Tempra> pipas!!
[09:01] <alumno> QIEN ES EL GOGETA
[09:02] <alumno_> eeee
[09:02] <alumno_> ç
[09:02] <alumno_> frikiiiisçç
[09:02] <PEC> LOL
[09:02] <alumno69> ola chabales
[09:02] <tanath> jasef, hrm. still didn't fix it
[09:02] <alumno__> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:02] <Tempra> mongoloooos
[09:02] <gogeta> !es ! alumno
[09:02] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG: external hd are expensive;)
[09:02] <alumno> PUTOS INGLESES
[09:02] <alumno__> jajajajajaja
[09:02] <Tempra> bartoloooo
[09:02] <gogeta> !es | alumno
[09:02] <obert-> RaTTuS|BIG: i doubt that i can install an OS in there too
[09:02] <llutz_> !ops | PEC alumno__ Tempra spamming
[09:02] <alumno_> flipiiis
[09:02] <alumno_> lauraaaa
[09:02] <alumno_> te saleee
[09:02] <alumno__> eeeeee
[09:02] <alumno__> saaales?
[09:03] <alumno_> kien salee
[09:03] <alumno_> ke dedcis
[09:03] <alumno> CALLA PIPA
[09:03] <Tempra> maria mongolaa
[09:03] <ichbinder> gogeta, somsip: yeah, I've seen xfce... nice idea, I'll give it a try if the others fail too... I guess it's really a graphics problem as neither CPU nor memory are used extensively when booting into Unity, but it's still slow as hell.
[09:03] <PEC> EEEEE MARIKAAA
[09:03] <alumno69> menudo invento no??
[09:03] <alumno> CALLA TONTO
[09:03] <alumno__> jajajajajaajajajaajajaajaajajaa
[09:03] <jasef> tanath, what about trying 1.2?
[09:03] <alumno__> que dices
[09:03] <alumno__> tu
[09:03] <alumno69> tu vieja
[09:03] <alumno69> xDD
[09:03] <alumnooooo> Holaaaa
[09:03] <gogeta> ichbinder: its just slow its all java based
[09:04] <tanath> jasef, trying to install i386 breaks everything. dependency explosion
[09:04] <tanath> jasef, installing wine installes wine1.3
[09:04] <phlak_user> tanath: hmm.. looks like the zsh environment isnt setup properly
[09:04] <jasef> tanath, what about just apt-get install wine1.2
[09:04] <jasef> ?
[09:04] <alumno69> kien sta aki?
[09:04] <ichbinder> gogeta: really? Didn't know that... java based... are you kidding... :(
[09:04] <gogeta> ichbinder: js is horrid to make a desktop with yet google gnome and ubuntu think its the next big thing
[09:04] <tanath> phlak_user, why you say that?
[09:04] <alumno69> r  u fucking kidding me?
[09:04] <TXRussian> So does any one know if they officially quit releasing adobe air
[09:04] <alumno69> bitch
[09:05] <somsip> gogeta: nothing to do with JS. That's not accurate info
[09:05] <llutz_> phlak_user: why should zsh-env matter, if even using bash shows same error?
[09:05] <tanath> phlak_user, i use a custom prompt which interferes with copypasta, so i just copied the commands and results...
[09:05] <gogeta> somsip: gnome 3 uses js for its ui
[09:05] <phlak_user> llutz_: does it? i mustve missed that part
[09:05] <gogeta> somsip: unity as well the 2s ver uses qt however
[09:05] <gogeta> 2d
[09:06] <ichbinder> gogeta: I have to admit as somebody who uses desktop computers since years, I really don't like the trend of OSes looking more and more like mobile phones.... are we really giving up all the depth and luxury we have on desktop just for the sake of easy to klick? meh... :(
[09:06] <somsip> gogeta: I aplogise. there does seem to be something in that
[09:06] <tanath> jasef, still didn't fix it :-/
[09:06] <somsip> ichbinder: just install any WM you want
[09:06] <tanath> jasef, i mean, wine1.2 installed, but the problem isn't gone :(
[09:07] <jasef> tanath, ... wow, sounds like your Ubuntu is being really weird
[09:07] <tanath> jasef, something is seriously wacky. i even scanned for rootkits and didn't find anything obvious... i think
[09:07] <Stuffness> Hi. This is literally my first time using linux. I'm using PuTTY in windows to ssh into my server. Is there a guide for the easiest way to get my repository onto the server? Is there any way to set up my server so that I could do 'git push' from windows? Having trouble finding any guides for that online.
[09:08] <ichbinder> somsip: rather: install any WM that works... ^^
[09:08] <gogeta> ichbinder: the problem coders stoped makeing desktop ui and now they let these ui artest do it and they just do stuff for the sake of change
[09:08] <gogeta> ichbinder: has to be pretty forget how well it works
[09:08] <somsip> ichbinder: plenty to chose from http://xwinman.org/
[09:08] <llutz_> Stuffness: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[09:08] <somsip> ichbinder: and plenty missing from that link
[09:09] <phlak_user> Stuffness: are you looking for a windows based git client?
[09:09] <BlackDex> Hello there.. I have oneiric installed, and when i roll-up a window, i still see the borders of that window, how can i fix this?
[09:09] <jasef> tanath, sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-i386
[09:09] <ichbinder> gogeta: word!
[09:09] <jasef> Could you try that?
[09:09] <ichbinder> somsip: thanks!
[09:09] <somsip> ichbinder: np - I moved off Unity and found something that works for me. It'e easy to do
[09:10] <gogeta> somsip: xfce4
[09:10] <Stuffness> phlak_user, looking for instructions for setting up the linux server to accept 'git push' from my windows computer.
[09:10] <tanath> jasef, a window popped up briefly and disappeared when i did that. any idea what it was?
[09:10] <somsip> gogeta: awsomewm
[09:10] <gogeta> ichbinder: all my machines are running xfce or lxde
[09:11] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change the mouse cursor size in 11.10?
[09:11] <tanath> jasef, oh, nvm. updates, lol
[09:11] <ichbinder> gogeta, somsip: hm, probably still gonna reinstall the whole unix, as I don't trust what the guy has done with the machine over the last year or so... ^^
[09:11] <jasef> tanath lol, try wine, if it doesn't work now after the libc6-i386 reinstall, then try updating?
[09:11] <somsip> ichbinder: oh yes. Totally
[09:11] <tanath> jasef, um... ok... that fixed it. now the question is _why_?
[09:12] <jasef> Your 32-bit C libs were messed up
[09:12] <jasef> I don't know how
[09:12] <N00B_> hey guys, i dont know why, my ubuntu software center was replacet me MOUN software center ny help?
[09:12] <gogeta> ichbinder: most of us dont run stock ubuntu anymore we all pretty mutch are running xubuntu or lubuntu
[09:12] <tanath> jasef, o_O
[09:12] <phlak_user> Stuffness: ok so you already have a git client on windows and you want to know how to push to a git repository on Unbuntu
[09:12] <Stuffness> yes
[09:12] <tanath> jasef, and how exactly did you narrow it down?
[09:12] <N00B_>  hey guys, i dont know why, my ubuntu software center was replaced by MOUN software center any help?
[09:13] <ichbinder> somsip: was that ironical? :)
[09:13] <somsip> ichbinder: huh? No...
[09:13] <jasef> tanath, I went hunting on forums lol. But apparently, there is no 64-bit wine, the wine:amd64 package runs in 32-bit, so you need the 32-bit C libs
[09:13] <tanath> jasef, hrm
[09:14] <ichbinder> gogeta: really? Didn't expect that... thought the community would accept the new way. :) Hm, it's sad good old gnome2 is not supported anymore and that gnome3 has gone in the wrong direction. Gnome2 was cool!
[09:14] <tanath> jasef, well, thanks :)
[09:14] <jasef> tanath, I found the command to try on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846286
[09:14] <phlak_user> Stuffness: llutz_ did point you to the link earlier -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[09:14] <ichbinder> somsip: ok. ^^ wasn't sure... yeah, well. You never know what people configure, especially when they have no clue about a system... so I rather have a clean install.
[09:14] <jasef> Here's how the libs are described:
[09:14] <jasef> !info libc6-i386
[09:14] <somsip> ichbinder: I agree. no irony or sarcasm intended
[09:14] <jasef> Lies...
[09:15] <jasef> !info libc6-i386:amd64
[09:15] <Stuffness> phlak_user, llutz, missed it, thanks
[09:15] <jasef> Lol, fail.
[09:15] <jasef> tanath, Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[09:15] <gogeta> ichbinder: yea im wating on the fork to go live of gnome 2
[09:15] <jasef> tanath, according the the package site that ubottu is supposed to pull stuff from.
[09:15] <gogeta> ichbinder: mint will be including it once they fix some issues with it
[09:16] <jasef> tanath, you should be able to reinstall wine1.3 now safely
[09:16] <ichbinder> gogeta: what it's gonna be called? The fork i mean
[09:16] <tanath> jasef, already on it ;)
[09:16] <gogeta> ichbinder: mate
[09:16] <jasef> tanath, awesome :)
[09:16] <ichbinder> gogeta: mate?! like the limonade?! LOL
[09:16] <gogeta> ichbinder: there working on makeing it work with gtk3
[09:16] <ichbinder> gogeta: why not gnubuntu. ^^
[09:16] <tanath> jasef, ty. i'm off now
[09:16] <ichbinder> gogeta: cool!
[09:17] <jasef> tanath, np. Have fun :)
[09:18] <ichbinder> gogeta, somsip: so, resource-wise, can I say Ubuntu > Kubuntu > Lubuntu > Xubuntu ?
[09:18] <gogeta> ichbinder: lubuntu is the lightest
[09:19] <gogeta> ichbinder: ubuntu>kubuntu>xubuntu>lubuntu
[09:19] <gogeta> ichbinder: pretty bad when qt smokes gnome 3
[09:19] <SachinDey> Can i make my ubuntu start in text mode
[09:19] <somsip> ichbinder: minimal install and the WM of your choice. I'd guess fluxbox/openbox are amongst the lightest
[09:19] <iceroot> !nox | SachinDey
[09:19] <ichbinder> gogeta: oh, really? As it has a way bigger installer than xubuntu, I just guessed... ^^ or is xubuntu installer just a net installer?
[09:20] <gogeta> ichbinder: should be around the same size
[09:20] <ubuntu> Hi. How does update-initramfs decide what img to generate? For some reason it wants to build 2.6.something, and I need 3.0.. So does anyone here know if this version can be given somehow as an argument?
[09:21] <gogeta> ichbinder: also the installer lies abought the nedded size
[09:22] <ichbinder> gogeta: yeah, you're right. Weird, first donwload was about 22 MB for Xubuntu... weird
[09:22] <gogeta> ichbinder: lubuntu installed is just over a gig but the installer says you need 4
[09:22] <llutz_> ubuntu: man update-initramfs (-k)
[09:22] <BlackDex> ubuntu: You probably upgraded from 11.04 or something to 11.10
[09:22] <BlackDex> This means that the old kernel files are still available
[09:22] <ichbinder> gogeta, somsip: ok, thanks! I'm gonna wait until downloads are finished, burn CD's and see where this is gonna go. ^^ Thank you!
[09:22] <somsip> ichbinder: np
[09:22] <BlackDex> You should remove/purge them via apt that way initramfs won't see the old kernel files
[09:22] <gogeta> ichbinder: you still burn cds lol
[09:23] <ichbinder> gogeta: yeah, old-school! I guess I even have to go and buy some.... ^^
[09:23] <gogeta> ichbinder: thumb drive can use it over and over
[09:23] <ubuntu> BlackDex, yes, sort of. Do you hav a link or anything about how to do this, in more detail. If possible I'd like to read up on that.
[09:24] <gogeta> ichbinder: i used to use cd-rw but all my machines can usb boot these days
[09:24] <llutz_> ubuntu: just read "man update-initramfs" about -k parameter
[09:24] <iceroot> ubuntu: by default its reading everything in /boot/ with -k you say which kernel should e used
[09:24] <gogeta> ichbinder: even the one that cant i use a boot loader cd that enables usb boot :)
[09:24] <BlackDex> ubuntu: You can use what llutz_ says, or use Ubuntu-Tweak to purge the old kernels
[09:25] <ichbinder> gogeta: yeah, maybe that inspiron can too... but hey, it's cheap and easy and i would need to clean up my 4GB usb stick...
[09:25] <ichbinder> gogeta: nice... :)
[09:25] <BlackDex> manually you should find the old kernel image packages and remove/purge them
[09:25] <BlackDex> don't have a link available
[09:25] <ubuntu> Perfect. Thanks, both :)
[09:26] <gogeta> BlackDex: i use sysanptic and search linux-image and remove all the old vers
[09:26] <gogeta> BlackDex: same for linux-headers
[09:27] <BlackDex> gogeta: that is what i use also.. or just search for the version number 2.6.x
[09:28] <gogeta> ichbinder: heck small sticks these days cost the same as a pack of cds
[09:28] <gogeta> ichbinder: iv seen 2gb for like 5$
[09:30] <gogeta> ichbinder: thing is ubuntu 12 will no longer be in a cd format
[09:30] <kornerr> hi
[09:30] <kornerr> is there a way to turn off F10 that accesses main top panel in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:30] <kornerr> also, is there a SysTray in Unity?
[09:31] <llutz_> gogeta: dvd+/-rw don't cost a fortune
[09:31] <conntrack> hmm
[09:32] <gogeta> llutz_: true but my c610 only has a cd rom
[09:32] <popey> gogeta: thats not for certain
[09:32] <gogeta> popey: yea they officaly said it was on slashdot
[09:32] <popey> gogeta: nothing decided at UDS is final
[09:35] <ichbinder> gogeta: really, no CD? I guess it will just be no-CD by default but still offer an iso download...
[09:35] <tyrone> Hey people. I installed compiz to try get more workspaces with unity. my unity crashed and I had to reboot and installed drivers again to sort out the problem.
[09:35] <ichbinder> gogeta: well, need to get going anyway. So thanks for the help again!
[09:35] <ichbinder> :)
[09:35] <gogeta> ichbinder: it will still be a iso just dvd sized
[09:35] <llutz_> ichbinder: iso > 700MB
[09:35] <tyrone> the issue I have now is that after resetting all compiz config to default my Unity doesn't look the same
[09:36] <gogeta> ichbinder: around 800mb
[09:36] <tyrone> the window switcher for example is just ugly and square as opposed to all unity like :)
[09:36] <tyrone> anyone able to help?
[09:36] <ichbinder> gogeta: ah, ok... well, then buy DVDs. ;)
[09:37] <ichbinder> gogeta: I'm old school. ^^
[09:37] <gogeta> ichbinder: not as old me lol rember the 5 1/2s
[09:37] <gogeta> lol
[09:38] <gogeta> ichbinder: i still order them for my c64
[09:39] <zorobabel> I wish I could find a decimal clock widget
[09:41] <tyrone> anyone??
[09:41] <jasef> tyrone, are you in Unity2D?
[09:42] <gogeta> tyrone: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-reset-unity-to-default-settings-in-ubuntu/
[09:42] <tyrone> jasef yes
[09:42] <tyrone> gogeta I have tried that
[09:42] <tyrone> gogeta thanks
[09:43] <jasef> tyrone, me too, and mine's like that, I think it's purposeful. I believe in Unity3D it uses the 3D switcher, but uses the default Gnome switcher in 2D
[09:44] <gogeta> tyrone: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60715/can-i-reset-unity-2d
[09:44] <gogeta> tyrone: 3 commands to reset 2d
[09:44] <tyrone> jasef. what do you think has caused the change? my launcher looks better somehow than when I started
[09:45] <tyrone> gogeta thanks I have done all those but will try them in that order.
[09:45] <gogeta> tyrone: you relog after fir it to take effect
[09:45] <jasef> tyrone, don't really know unless it's simply because it's Unity2D. Kinda tired right now :(
[09:45] <taranto> srs., bom dia
[09:45] <tyrone> jasef thanks
[09:46] <tyrone> gogeta great I missed that bit. thanks
[09:46] <tyrone> gogeta will try that. thanks for the help
[09:47] <taranto> Anyone know any command in linux to check which firewall is barring the door of mysql?
[09:47] <llutz_> taranto: sudo iptables -vL
[09:47] <gogeta> tyrone: yea i dont see anything on resetting 2d
[09:48] <Akegata> Does anyone have experience preseed-installing HP BL465c G7 machines? I have some strange dhcp problems..
[09:49] <taranto> llutz, n my firewall blocking there is no rule, but in the data center firewall I have no way to check the rules, and needed some tracertroute give me the information that the package there.
[09:49] <taranto> llutz_
[09:50] <llutz_> taranto: ask the firewall-admin
[09:50] <taranto> llutz_, admin insists that firewall has no rules on the firewall it.
[09:50] <gogeta> Akegata: you connect to a roughter or a cable modem some cable modems need to be reset  when you install a new os
[09:51] <Akegata> gogeta: No, this is a server...
[09:51] <gogeta> Akegata: ?
[09:52] <gogeta> Akegata: your server is not handing out ips then
[09:52] <llutz_> taranto: traceroute -p 3306 xxxx  from outside. look where it hangs
[09:52] <monk> can someone help me set up a RAID1 on ubuntu 11.10 with 3 1TB Drives
[09:53] <Akegata> gogeta: It is. The pxeboot part works fine, but when the installation part wants to get a lease it's not even sending out broadcasts.
[09:54] <Akegata> Ok, this is apparently some sort of bug in 11.04, I just got an address in 11.10.
[09:54] <gogeta> Akegata: nice
[09:54] <Akegata> Doesn't really solve the problem though..
[09:54] <ubuntu> I get "cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda3" when I run update-initramfs. It's not marked as an error.. Does anyone know if I can continue anyways, or should I fix something first?
[09:55] <gogeta> Akegata: if you get a ip whont it insall
[09:55] <Akegata> gogeta: Yeah but I want 11.04. :P
[09:55] <Akegata> Plus the preseed failed as well. :/
[09:55] <gogeta> Akegata: 11.10 is the replacment for 11.04
[09:56] <gogeta> Akegata: ubuntu `12 will be the next lts
[09:56] <taranto> llutz_, eu tentei, mas todos os hops estão passando ***. conhece alguma ferramenta online para isso?
[09:56] <Akegata> I know. That doesn't necessarily mean I want 11.10.
[09:56] <ichbinder> gogeta: my mom gave my C64 away to some Polish people as a donation when I was about 14. She said I didn't use it anymore.... -.-
[09:56] <taranto> llutz_, sorry, I tried, but all the hops are going ***. know of any online tool for this?
[09:56] <gogeta> ichbinder: :(
[09:57] <llutz_> taranto: no
[09:57] <loop> only poor people owned C64's
[09:57] <gogeta> yep a poor mans appe
[09:57] <gogeta> apple
[09:57] <taranto> llutz_, ok, thks!
[09:57] <loop> no 64/128 is where it was at
[09:57] <gogeta> i had a apple 2c a well
[09:57] <gogeta> as
[09:58] <gogeta> kinda like a laptop of the early 80s lol
[09:58] <ichbinder> gogeta: yes, I still have not forgiven that one!
[09:58] <loop> i remember going over to other kids houses and theyd have their c64 keyboard wired into their television set
[09:58] <loop> i would just look down upon them and laugh in their faces
[09:58] <loop> NOT
[09:58] <gogeta> loop: my 2c was like that to had tv out built in
[09:58] <loop> those were the days
[09:58] <ichbinder> gogeta:  it's like throwing away your favorite stuffed animal just because you don't cuddle it anymore
[09:59] <gogeta> ichbinder: my 2c broke and when i moved i found it and just didnt wanna fix it
[09:59] <gogeta> ichbinder: was sitting for so long i forgot i had it
[10:00] <ichbinder> gogeta: still, it's nice to find those things again.
[10:00] <loop> bruce lee on c64 was one the greatest video games of all time
[10:00] <ichbinder> same with my N64 station. I mean hey, no other Mario Kart has ever been as good as that one!
[10:00] <gogeta> ichbinder: yea but the built in floppy was smashed and getting arts for a 80s machine is hard
[10:00] <loop> i was an old man by the time the N64 was out
[10:00] <jaybutts> guys my unity load but just disappears how can I just reset the settings
[10:00] <ichbinder> gogeta: oh yeah... ebay or maybe craigslist are your friends.
[10:01] <loop> did you all see the new c64 model theyre releasing for $1499
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> jaybutts: try this: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz && compiz --replace <enter>
[10:02] <ichbinder> gogeta: there is a bigger problem though: some friends and I wanted to play a few rounds of C64 games on a projector at the university. Sad thing is: more than 90% of the disks were already damaged, lost magnatism.
[10:02] <loop> remember how dangerous magnets used to be lol
[10:02] <loop> magnets HOW DO THEY WORK
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> loop: that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <loop> these freenode servers sure are the bomb
[10:03] <ichbinder> loop, gogeta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64#Brand_re-use
[10:04] <jaybutts> MonkeyDust: Thanks but it still doesn't show up :(
[10:04] <ichbinder> loop, gogeta the idea of your whole desktop computer inside your keyboard is still fascinating. :)
[10:04] <gogeta> ichbinder: there caled laptops
[10:04] <gogeta> ichbinder: or tablets
[10:04] <loop> lol
[10:04] <ichbinder> gogeta: that's something else. :P
[10:04] <loop> or smartphones
[10:04] <llutz_> !ot | ichbinder loop gogeta pls
[10:06] <ichbinder> llutz_: sorry... it started with support, though... ;)
[10:07] <llutz_> ichbinder: no worries, just continue in -offtopic pls
[10:07] <farciarz84> hi why my "super fast hard disk" are configured to [ 4258.105606] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
[10:07] <farciarz84> [ 4258.111221] ata4.00: configured for UDMA/33
[10:07] <farciarz84> UDMA/33 this is ancient
[10:12] <feisar> morning all, when using Ubuntu 'ls -l' seems to list a date corresponding to when the files inside a directory were last modified is that correct?
[10:12] <llutz_> feisar: yes
[10:12] <feisar> llutz_: great, thanks
[10:14] <petan|work> anyone can help me set up mail server
[10:14] <petan|work> the guide on web doesn't work
[10:14] <sinosoidal> hi everybody. multitouch kernel driver development question
[10:14] <llutz_> petan|work: mail server to do what exactly?
[10:15] <petan|work> llutz_: receive and send emails over smtp / pop3 / imap
[10:15] <sinosoidal> i'm developing a multitouch driver for kernel. I'm basing myself on examples in kernel source
[10:15] <petan|work> I installed dovecot and postfix
[10:15] <llutz_> petan|work: postfix, perfectly documented
[10:15] <petan|work> I can send emails out but I can't receive them
[10:15] <MoL0ToV> hi to all, i have a problem: at boot i cannot mount /tmp  (sda3, ext4,50GB size).  I have /dev/sda2 swap partition (8GB) but also a /dev/mapper/cryptswap1  (listed with a size of 50GB in fdisk -l).  I want to remove this cryptoswap. Where is configured? or change the configuration to use /dev/sda2 (8GB) for swap, not 50GB filesystem!! howto?
[10:15] <llutz_> petan|work: check logs
[10:15] <petan|work> when I send mails on local I can't receive them
[10:15] <petan|work> I did
[10:15] <petan|work> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878039
[10:16] <petan|work> logs don't contain errors
[10:16] <sinosoidal> is there any irc channel dedicated to kernel driver development?
[10:17] <llutz_> petan|work: help in #postfix
[10:17] <petan|work> are you sure it's related to postfix?
[10:17] <petan|work> I think it's dovecot
[10:17] <petan|work> where the problem is
[10:17] <llutz_> petan|work: sry i cannot check, no www right now
[10:17] <petan|work> because postfix can send mails out but I can't receive them
[10:20] <Jeangleur> hello, my unity 3d ist gone
[10:20] <petan|work> anyone?
[10:20] <Jeangleur> unity 2d seems to work and when I create a new user, it works too
[10:21] <crizzy> Jeangleur: do you only see the top panel when logging to unity?
[10:21] <Jeangleur> but 3d seems dead... gone.
[10:21] <Jeangleur> no
[10:21] <YaMeZ> Hey all
[10:21] <crizzy> Jeangleur: did you play around with compizcontrol? :)
[10:21] <Jeangleur> yes. well, actually, I didn't play. I just opened it to check the options. (honestly!!!)
[10:22] <YaMeZ> Question: Say i'm signed in from SSH and start a program, how would I switch to that uhh.. context from a terminal on the actual computer proper.
[10:22] <crizzy> compizcontrol unfortunately has habit of crashing and corrupting config files
[10:22] <crizzy> i guess that's what happened here too - it disabled unity plugin
[10:22] <crizzy> happened to me several times :)
[10:22] <Jeangleur> yes!
[10:22] <Jeangleur> crizzy: how to solve it?
[10:22] <Jeangleur> any ideas?
[10:23] <crizzy> Jeangleur: login to unity2d, open compizconfig again, find 'unity' plugin from the plugin list, i'm quite sure it's checked off. check it back on
[10:23] <scarleo> Hi, isn't it possible to password protect a .tar.gz with archive manager? It only lets me set passwords on .rar or .zip
[10:23] <Jeangleur> crizzy: that simple?!
[10:23] <crizzy> should be
[10:23] <petan|work> scarleo: no
[10:23] <crizzy> Jeangleur: also run: unity --reset
[10:24] <crizzy> then try logging back to 2d
[10:24] <crizzy> *3d
[10:24] <Jeangleur> ok, crizzy: it asks what to to with the conflicts
[10:24] <YaMeZ> Question: Say i'm signed in from SSH and start a program, how would I switch to that uhh.. context from a terminal on the actual computer proper.
[10:24] <scarleo> petan|work: ok, thanks
[10:24] <crizzy> Jeangleur: uhh, just click whatever it recommends :D no idea
[10:24] <petan|work> YaMeZ: what
[10:24] <crizzy> anything it needs to get unity plugin enabled again
[10:24] <Jeangleur> and unity --reset in the terminal?
[10:24] <petan|work> YaMeZ: switch to what
[10:24] <crizzy> yes
[10:24] <crizzy> Jeangleur: it might not be needed though
[10:24] <liran> Hi, I'm looking for a tool that does IOPS benchmark for HDD"s, something really informative
[10:25] <crizzy> you can try logging just after re-enabling unity plugin
[10:25] <YaMeZ> petan: In my case, I started a minecraft server from my phone via SSH, what if my phone disconnects and I want to interact with the program that it started through the actual computer
[10:25] <YaMeZ> I'm not sure if I worded that right..
[10:25] <ajithkp560> hi guys
[10:25] <YaMeZ> Hey aji
[10:25] <petan|work> YaMeZ: you should start it with nohup so that it keep running if connection is lost
[10:25] <ajithkp560> hi yamez
[10:26] <petan|work> YaMeZ: I don't know how does it work, that program you talk about
[10:26] <YaMeZ> Thanks petan i'll look up "nohup"
[10:26] <YaMeZ> Ok if I keep a program running, how would I interact with it from another terminal?
[10:27] <petan|work> YaMeZ: is it interactive program or it only has some output stream?
[10:27] <ajithkp560> hi yamez are you chinese?
[10:27] <petan|work> YaMeZ: I don't know what "interact" means in your case
[10:27] <llutz_> YaMeZ: you should use screen (dettach/reattach sessions)
[10:27] <zagibu> liran: iozone seems to be popular
[10:27] <petan|work> you can't start interactive programs like mc in nohup
[10:28] <izik> hey, does ubuntu 11.10 have xen hypervisior package?
[10:28] <zagibu> liran: or this: http://freecode.com/projects/fio
[10:28] <Randolph> hi all
[10:28] <galagala> is there a way to make shortcuts for the terminal? so if i type superget it types out sudo apt-get install fx?
[10:28] <crizzy> izik: yes
[10:29] <crizzy> izik: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xen&searchon=names&suite=oneiric&section=all
[10:29] <crizzy> galagala: yes
[10:29] <crizzy> galagala: aliases
[10:29] <zagibu> liran: default would be iostat, I guess
[10:29] <izik> crizzy: in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen i saw it say: Ubuntu 10.04 does not come with Xen binaries so you will have to manually download and compile Xen along with a kernel that is suitable to work with Xen. In this tutorial we will use Xen-4.0.1."
[10:29] <izik> so what does this mean?
[10:30] <bonhoffer> is there a  shortcut for terminal?
[10:30] <crizzy> izik: well you asked about 11.10 :)
[10:30] <Randolph> gz
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> bonhoffer: ctrl-alt-t
[10:30] <crizzy> izik: xen got integrated in kernel 3.0 which 11.10 has, earlier ubuntus don't
[10:30] <galagala> crizzy, thanks!
[10:30] <Jeangleur> crizzy: thanks! it worked!!!
[10:30] <Jeangleur> wow!
[10:30] <crizzy> Jeangleur: :>
[10:30] <bonhoffer> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[10:30] <izik> crizzy:ok thanks
[10:30] <crizzy> now be careful with compizconfig, it's pretty crappy beast
[10:31] <MoL0ToV> someone know howto use/configure cryptswap? I have enabled at system installation setup, but now i want to remove/modify. where is placed the config files?
[10:31] <bonhoffer> is there a way to get a theme for the terminal, as opposed to doing it myself?
[10:31] <Randolph> galagala : modify the .bashrc  add alias xx=' your command   '
[10:31] <bonhoffer> the 11.10 default is ugly
[10:31] <crizzy> galagala: put them to ~/.bashrc file if i remember right.. like, alias mycommand="sudo apt-get install $1" should do what you want
[10:31] <Jeangleur> i dunno what I changed in the plugin conflict shit, but however, it works. yesterday: 2 hours and no results, today, 5 min!
[10:31] <llutz_> crizzy: you can't use $1 in aliases
[10:31] <petan|work> crizzy: there is no need for that either
[10:32] <crizzy> llutz_: oh, mkay, can't remember everything :) should work without it then
[10:32] <ederico> hello everyone, this will probably seem like a stupid question, but what do you reckon is better for system resources using a mail client like Thunderbird or access emails through webmail (i.e. browser)?
[10:32] <crizzy> ederico: well, gmail is faster than any desktop client x)
[10:32] <Stuffness> Is the "user administration" section in this guide enough to add an administrative user to ubuntu or do you usually add more permissions? It seems I'm running into permissions issues pretty frequently when following various linux guides http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/index.php/Ubuntu_-_Setup
[10:34] <crizzy> Stuffness: you need to run system commands either with sudo or with root user
[10:34] <ederico> crizzy: I'm wondering, because I'm having trouble with system resources apparently, in fact I'm also considering switching to Kubuntu from Ubuntu (11.10) as I read that KDE is more efficient resource wise
[10:34] <crizzy> Stuffness: 'sudo su' is easy trick to get in as root with your regular user :)
[10:34] <crizzy> ederico: you don't really have to 'change' to kubuntu, you can just install 'kubuntu-desktop' package on your current installation to install "kubuntu"
[10:35] <llutz_> crizzy: pls don't recommend "sudo su" here, "sudo -i" is the "correct" way to get a root-shell
[10:35] <CobraKhan007> ederico, if you want kde desktop use "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:35] <crizzy> llutz_: end result is the same
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> crizzy: but with kubuntu-desktop, you menu becomes cluttered
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> your*
[10:35] <llutz_> crizzy: not really
[10:36] <CobraKhan007> ederico, that will install the kde plasma desktop
[10:37] <ederico> CobraKhan007: would that allow me to select a desktop environment when logging in?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> ederico: yes
[10:37] <CobraKhan007> ederico, yes.
[10:37] <ederico> MonkeyDust: thanks
[10:37] <Stuffness> crizzy, but I'm talking about specific cases where I know the command should work without sudo.. like, following a tutorial line for line
[10:37] <ederico> CobraKhan997: thanks
[10:38] <Nickymol> Hello there guys
[10:38] <CobraKhan007> np
[10:38] <crizzy> ederico: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm (or kdm) lets you choose between login managers
[10:38] <crizzy> ederico: if you're gonna run kde you probably wanna change to kdm
[10:38] <crizzy> Stuffness: if it's something that touches system outside your homedir, you need sudo
[10:40] <ederico> crizzy: I'll check that out
[10:44] <ederico> actually, since I'm concerned with system resources, I might give LXDE a try. The laptop I'm using is around 5 years old now, I believe my problems started with Unity.
[10:44] <crizzy> ederico: xfce might be worth trying too
[10:44] <ederico> crizzy: yes, reading about them
[10:45] <crizzy> ederico: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :)
[10:45] <ederico> crizzy: thanks
[10:45] <crizzy> then you can just select xubuntu session from login manager
[10:45] <vasiliy335> :)
[10:45] <crizzy> it's probably more familiar if you've used to old gnome 2
[10:46] <ederico> crizzy: so Xubuntu is Ubuntu with xfce? I always wondered what that was
[10:46] <crizzy> ederico: yes
[10:46] <llutz_> ederico: if you care about resources, you should go with lxde. much lighter than kde/xfce/gnome
[10:46] <vasiliy335> Привет всем!!!
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !ru| vasiliy335
[10:46] <crizzy> ederico: all ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu are all in the exact same repositories, they aren't anyhow 'separate' distros apart from default packages at install cd's
[10:47] <crizzy> ederico: so you can install and test them simply by apt-getting stuff
[10:47] <ederico> crizzy: so what happens is I change the desktop environment but would still use Ubuntu's apps (and those that I have installed myself after Ubuntu's installation?)
[10:48] <crizzy> ederico: none of those get removed, you can run them just fine regardless of desktop environment
[10:48] <ederico> crizzy: great, thanks for the support
[10:48] <crizzy> and you can change desktop environment simply from login screen session menu, depending on what mood you are in ;)
[10:50] <zagibu> if you feel horny, try xxxfce
[10:51] <ederico> zagiub: sure! :-)
[10:51] <ederico> zagibu: sure! :-)
[10:51] <YaMeZ> hey petan|work, you still there?
[10:52] <Toph2> i'm running 11.10 and i'm having a lot of problem with my computer slowing right down to the point where I have to wait for it to catch up. The HD runs constantly at times like this. Also, it seems to be worse when I have the chrome browser running. Any ideas?
[10:53] <zagibu> how much memory do you have?
[10:53] <ederico> Toph2: I have the same problem, I'm considering switching my desktop environment. I'll let others guide you though, as I'm quite a newbiew.
[10:53] <zagibu> you can check it with free
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> or free -m
[10:54] <crizzy> also 'htop' is nice for following resource/memory usage
[10:54] <YaMeZ> Toph2, I havent been running ubuntu long but sometimes my terminal seems to just pause for a few seconds at a time
[10:54] <Toph2> zagibu,,, 175 M free
[10:55] <gogeta> Toph2: not alot
[10:55] <Toph2> YaMeZ,,, i'm not talking a few seconde,, mine hangs for 30 seconds
[10:55] <Toph2> gogeta,,, does chrome use a lot of resources? I have 1Gb of ram
[10:55] <YaMeZ> Toph, oh.. naah i've never witnessed that. Also, i've not been able to install chrome. =(
[10:56] <gogeta> Toph2: unity does
[10:56] <zagibu> well, if you have 175MB free, it's not swapping yet, so that's not the problem
[10:56] <greentech> yo, anyone here used web administration for ubuntu servers?
[10:56] <crizzy> gogeta: not really, it just needs decent gfx card.
[10:56] <Toph2> perhaps i'm just short of memory
[10:56] <zagibu> doesn't seem like it
[10:56] <gogeta> crizzy: and what is that
[10:56] <crizzy> greentech: i use ispconfig
[10:57] <zagibu> any processes running in the background putting load on cpu?
[10:57] <gogeta> Toph2: yes 1gb unity lags like crazy
[10:57] <greentech> is it any good, I'm not great at command line so would like some freindly user interface#
[10:57] <crizzy> greentech: it was somewhat painful to get installed, but works fine
[10:57] <Toph2> gogeta,,, why the constant HD activity? swapping?
[10:57] <gogeta> greentech: xfce ir lxde
[10:57] <crizzy> gogeta: installation tutorial is relatively simply if you just follow it step by step anyway
[10:57] <crizzy> **
[10:57] <gogeta> Toph2: probly
[10:57] <crizzy> greentech:
[10:57] <Toph2> ok
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> greentech: try eBox
[10:58] <zagibu> greentech: what about webmin?
[10:58] <greentech> I'm just installing 10.04 and it comes with EBox
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> !webmin| zagibu
[10:58] <zagibu> oh
[10:58] <crizzy> greentech: ebox is mostly for configuring intranet services, like printing and ldap users
[10:58] <greentech> but that seems to be taken over by Zentyal which is proprietary
[10:58] <ederico> great, my network went down while I was installing xubuntu-desktop from the command line
[10:58] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[10:58] <greentech> so whats wrong with webmin
[10:58] <zagibu> read above
[10:59] <gogeta> greentech: no worrys you should be able to resume
[10:59] <crizzy> greentech: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-ispconfig-3 take a look at this
[10:59] <OliveGreen> How do I make the F12 button start Shutter instead of the default screenshot program?
[10:59] <crizzy> greentech: http://www.ispconfig.org/
[10:59] <greentech> ok I'll have a look, thanks
[10:59] <hrolf> Can anyone tell why I'm getting my graphics like this? http://i40.tinypic.com/1491t28.png
[10:59] <gogeta> greentech: just do sudo apt-get clean to clean out packages first
[10:59] <hrolf> I'm on Ubuntu 11.10
[11:00] <crizzy> hrolf: reboot should fix that :P
[11:00] <hrolf> The thing is that it is random (I haven't yet figured out how I came at this, but a reboot fixes that)
[11:00] <crizzy> i've got it few times, no idea what actually causes it
[11:00] <hrolf> crizzy: Yep
[11:00] <vivekg> with Ubuntu 11.04 when I am using XDMCP, I am able to login to the user and getting the display. But whenever I am trying to launch any application ( e.g. terminal ) in the taskbar, it says starting terminal and after sometime its closing resulting in not starting terminal. This is happening to all the applications. Any help?
[11:00] <hrolf> Anyone knows if a bug has been filed for it?
[11:01] <greentech> yeah it'll be a new install so I can just leave out eBox and look at ispconfig
[11:01] <Toph2> when reading htop, what are the critical indicators? CPU%, Mem%, or what?
[11:01] <crizzy> hrolf: reporting it again won't hurt, at least gives attention to the maintainers, they'll mark it dublicate if needed ;)
[11:01] <crizzy> greentech: i recommend ispconfig if websites is what you wanna host
[11:02] <bonhoffer> is there a built in resource monitor in 11.10
[11:02] <greentech> well I wanna do mainly user and printer management, but with some web resources
[11:02] <crizzy> isp config can do just web stuff
[11:03] <crizzy> ebox however should work in concurrent with ispconfig though
[11:03] <crizzy> they're kinda doing different things
[11:03] <crizzy> bonhoffer: 'system monitor' application
[11:03] <crizzy> bonhoffer: or if you want commandline one, install 'htop' package, it's cleaner than regular top
[11:03] <greentech> is eBox still supported?
[11:04] <bonhoffer> crizzy, thanks!
[11:04] <crizzy> greentech: it is in 10.04 at least
[11:04] <bonhoffer> is there a way to see how fast my hard drive is working?
[11:06] <zagibu> iostat is one such way
[11:07] <os_> hi
[11:07] <greentech> So ISPConfig doesn't manage OpenLDAP or Proxies or can you get it to do that?
[11:07] <bonhoffer> zagibu, thanks
[11:08] <bonhoffer> zagibu, i can't find iostat?
[11:08] <ederico> ok, time to logout and try out lxde and xfce, later
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> bonhoffer: you need to install sysstat
[11:09] <os_> i didn't find kqemu package for ubuntu 11.10
[11:09] <Ibis> What's the ftp url for ubuntu minimal cd for 11.10?
[11:09] <OliveGreen> Is there a way I can get the Print Screen button to open Shutter instead of the default screenshot program?
[11:10] <llutz_> !minimal  | Ibis
[11:10] <bonhoffer> MonkeyDust, am now
[11:11] <Ibis> But this only gives http url.
[11:11] <bonhoffer> wow -- you folks are helpful, if i have a drive at smb://aloadae.local/volume_1/personal and i want a nice symlink, is there a quick way to do that?
[11:12] <llutz_> Ibis: ftp is the same
[11:12] <bonhoffer> like ~/aloadae
[11:12] <theadmin> bonhoffer: You need to use smbfs
[11:13] <bonhoffer> theadmin, would i load that with apt-get or software center?
[11:13] <bonhoffer> got it
[11:13] <theadmin> bonhoffer: I suppose it should come preinstalled... You might check APT though
[11:14] <bonhoffer> installing -- so apt is still here, but synaptic is gone?
[11:14] <bonhoffer> i always saw them as the same :)
[11:14] <theadmin> bonhoffer: You can always install Synaptic from APT
[11:14] <anand> hi
[11:14] <bonhoffer> theadmin, so now with smbfs installed can i do that symlink?
[11:14] <anand> i am using ubuntu 10.04
[11:14] <theadmin> bonhoffer: Well, it's not exactly a symlink, but yeah, you should read the manual to it
[11:14] <anand> and i have problem installing lamp-server
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> anand: try tasksel
[11:15] <anand> i tried sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ but it gives me some dependencies problem
[11:15] <bonhoffer> theadmin, will do -- any links appreciated -- i basically want ~/foo to be smb://aloadae.local/v_1/
[11:16] <bonhoffer> theadmin, is there a phrase for what i'm trying to do (e.g. "map remote smb share to local filesystem")
[11:17] <Richie086> bonhoffer: http://extremesarcasm.org/wp/2011/10/517/
[11:17] <bonhoffer> Richie086, hmm. . . do i trust you?
[11:17] <iceroot> anand: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[11:18] <Richie086> its my website, its a link to an article about how to map smb shares to your computer
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> anand: tasksel will help you (task select)
[11:18] <theadmin> bonhoffer: mount smbfs, basically
[11:18] <blup> i'm having a problem with my partitions... i gave
[11:18] <bonhoffer> Richie086, oh i was expecting a jpg of "google it" or something from the sarcasm reference
[11:19] <bonhoffer> theadmin, thanks
[11:19] <blup> i gave '/' 40gb, and '/home' about 460gb... and it keeps complaining that i have almost no space available
[11:19] <Richie086> lol no just my sense of humor
[11:19] <anand> i tried this before and i got this
[11:19] <anand> http://pastebin.com/AqXBsdCy
[11:19] <iceroot> blup:  please paste the output of "df -h"
[11:19] <iceroot> !paste | blup
[11:20] <supercabbage_uk> I'm using VirtualBox, I've added a shared directory which has created /media/sf_mydirectory.. is there any way to make VirtualBox share to /var/www or to make /var/www mirror the contents of /media/sf_directory?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> blup: type df -h|pastebinit and paste the outcome here
[11:21] <theadmin> supercabbage_uk: You can just: ln -s /media/sf_directory /var/www
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> the link, that is
[11:22] <theadmin> supercabbage_uk: However, you have to delete the current /var/www/ first
[11:22] <blup> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/b32m8Ych
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> blup: i think the problem is the 98%
[11:24] <blup> MonkeyDust: i see :)
[11:24] <lnxten> hi
[11:24] <supercabbage_uk> theadmin, works great thanks
[11:24] <gnu_d> Hi, I'm trying to use the ndiswrapper, I managed to install it an install the win driver for my usb TL-WN727N adapter, but the wlan interface is not present, although I loaded the ndiswrapper module, what else is needed to load the interface ?
[11:24] <theadmin> supercabbage_uk: No problem
[11:24] <zorobabel> weird
[11:24] <blup> i'm sorry, i think my problem was /var, which should've been another partition
[11:25] <zorobabel> can't ctrl+click multiple items when trying to upload files to various websites
[11:25] <szal> blup: that's definitely not 40 GB for /
[11:25] <supercabbage_uk> Question is now, how do I make it so the files and directories in the /var/www directory remain in the www-data group?
[11:25] <gnu_d> the reason I fallback to ndiswrapper is that the connection was dropping after a while
[11:25] <Richie086> bonhoffer: did the tutorial on my website work?
[11:25] <supercabbage_uk> Otherwise it's kind of pointless
[11:25] <theadmin> supercabbage_uk: Well, uh, what is the filesystem of the host OS, which this folder resides on?
[11:25] <Guest44413> hi
[11:25] <supercabbage_uk> Vista :-/
[11:25] <Guest44413> i have problems with sopcast
[11:25] <Guest44413> http://pastebin.com/KFkHRT3A
[11:25] <theadmin> supercabbage_uk: Then you can't, you need a filesystem with UNIX permission support for that
[11:26] <supercabbage_uk> FFS!
[11:26] <bonhoffer> Richie086, i'm working with it -- i have smb://aloadae.local/volume_1/ i'm trying to figure out what fstab would take
[11:26] <supercabbage_uk> I've wasted hours on this
[11:26] <bonhoffer> and no credential file needed for me
[11:26] <szal> supercabbage_uk: Vista is not a filesystem ;)
[11:26] <supercabbage_uk> So there's NO way that I can have a folder in Vista, that can act as my /var/www?
[11:26] <theadmin> supercabbage_uk: No.
[11:26] <supercabbage_uk> fucks sake
[11:26] <supercabbage_uk> I had everything working with FTP
[11:26] <theadmin> supercabbage_uk: Wipe vista and install Ubuntu as your main OS :P
[11:26] <szal> !language | supercabbage_uk
[11:26] <supercabbage_uk> then accidentally loaded a snapshot
[11:27] <sab0> hello,I am using ubuntu 10.04 along with windows 7 NOW i want to upgrade my ubuntu os,any one can help me how(I am novice linux user)
[11:27] <theadmin> sab0: sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:27] <blup> MonkeyDust: so one question, if i give '/' 40gb, and '/home' 500gb... does that limit my /home partition to 40? (since its under /)
[11:27] <gnu_d> come on, anybody knows how to set the wifi adapter ?
[11:27] <theadmin> blup: No
[11:27] <szal> supercabbage_uk: if you need a Windows filesystem to have specific Unix permissions, you need to mount it w/ those permissions
[11:27] <theadmin> blup: I mean, mountpoints mean nothing
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> blup: no, but 40gb is a lot for /
[11:27] <theadmin> blup: your /home partition is still 500GB
[11:28] <blup> MonkeyDust, yea,  gave it 20gb, sorry... i got it out of my head
[11:28] <bonhoffer> Richie086, any thoughts appreciated
[11:28] <sab0> theadmin, thank you,only this command is enough to upgrade and after upgrading will i face any problem with my grub loader?
[11:28] <blup> so since they're different partitions, /home being under / changes nothing right?
[11:28] <theadmin> sab0: Yeah that's enough, and no you shouldn't, however note that this will upgrade you to 10.10
[11:28] <theadmin> sab0: You can't really upgrade to 11.10 without going through 10.10 and 11.04 first
[11:28] <szal> blup: the position of a filesystem in the directory tree doesn't matter, what matters is the actual size of the filesystem
[11:28] <bonhoffer> is there a gui for fstab
[11:29] <sab0> theadmin, thank you,i will try now
[11:29] <theadmin> bonhoffer: I think there is something called MountManager
[11:29] <blup> szal, MonkeyDust, theadmin: thanks a lot
[11:29] <bonhoffer> thanks
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> a gui for fstab, weird question, /me wonders
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> bonhoffer: there's python-fstab
[11:30] <HackNewton> \exit
[11:30] <llutz_> gui for fstab: gedit/gvim
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> and MountManager, idd
[11:30] <bonhoffer> llutz, i love cli, but i would like to get a hand on formatting this file right
[11:31] <lnxten> what About gedit?
[11:31] <susheel> my problem is i cant find my nic card in ifconfig -a
[11:31] <Tyrope> I have a slight problem. I want to install Ubuntu on a machine that has no internet connections, and the only USB devices i have is a 1GB MP3 player, a 32GB Camera and a 4GB phone. Non of which can be booted from... Is there a way to install Ubuntu in windows, and then remove windows?
[11:31] <Tyrope> (WinXP)
[11:31] <llutz_> bonhoffer: learn the syntax, you'll need it. any GUI would just be useless
[11:31] <sab0> theadmin, i tried its giving me "no new release found" mmessage
[11:31] <Richie086> bonhoffer: it will look like that, but when you specify it in fstab, just do it like the tutorial
[11:31] <theadmin> sab0: Oh sorry.
[11:32] <theadmin> Tyrope: You can try, but I'm afraid you won't like the way it's done, it's complicated
[11:32] <scotty^> Tyrope: Just boot the Ubuntu LiveCD and install from there.
[11:32] <sab0> theadmin : any solution for this problem??
[11:32] <susheel> in some moments when i restart my pc its going to detect
[11:32] <szal> sab0: if you want 11.10, reinstalling will be a lot cleaner anyway
[11:32] <Tyrope> scoopex: no CD/DVD burners around here.
[11:32] <szal> sab0: not to speak of saving time
[11:33] <susheel> lan card problem help me out guys
[11:33] <Tyrope> theadmin: I like complicated. Any webpage that shows me a step-by-step? :)
[11:33] <theadmin> Tyrope: First, you need to download and install VirtualBox. Secondly, you need to assign it to your real harddrive: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk \\.\PhysicalDrive0 -filename C:\lol.vdi
[11:33] <theadmin> Tyrope: Next, load that hard drive in Virtualbox and install Ubuntu there
[11:33] <sab0> szal : i want to install first 10.10 then will move to 11.10
[11:33] <scotty^> Tyrope: You can order a pressed Ubuntu CD from Canonical.
[11:33] <theadmin> Tyrope: Finally, boot into the Ubuntu and kill Windows
[11:33] <llutz_> Tyrope: grub2 installed on that pc?
[11:33] <Richie086> bonhoffer: //alodae.local/volume_1 /media/mountpoint cifs auto,iocharset=utf8,uid=USER,gid=GROUPID,credentials=/root/.cifscredentials,file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775 0 0
[11:33] <theadmin> scotty^: You're not helping.
[11:33] <dr_willis> Tyrope: you could perhaps do some cimplex tricks with vbox
[11:33] <szal> sab0: and since live upgrades in *buntu are inherently unreliable (compared to other distros, that is), there's a good chance you end up w/ an unusable system after 3 upgrade runs (10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10)
[11:34] <susheel> no
[11:34] <bonhoffer> Richie086, thanks!
[11:34] <Tyrope> theadmin: That doesn't sound too complicated.
[11:34] <ederico> I am back, I think I will be going with LXDE as an alternative to Unity, now I'd like to change the pallpaper but can't seem to find how to do that, does anybody know, please?
[11:34] <bonhoffer> so i see how the dns is working there
[11:34] <theadmin> Tyrope: Well maybe for some, most users think using command line is veeeeery hard
[11:34] <Richie086> just make sure i spelled the hostname and the share path name correct
[11:34] <Tyrope> theadmin: Aye, commandlining can be tricky. ;)
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> <3 CLI
[11:34] <Richie086> bonhoffer: then after you save the file, do
[11:34] <Richie086> bonhoffer: sudo mount -a
[11:34] <ederico> ignore my previous question, I found out!
[11:35] <susheel> mother board nic not working
[11:35] <lnxten> tyrope, use usb start up from live cd. then install it from usb
[11:35] <Richie086> bonhoffer: let me know if you run into any hiccups
[11:35] <jerinian> hi everyone!
[11:35] <Richie086> bonhoffer: cuz im going to bed if you are good to go
[11:35] <Tyrope> Alright, thank you all for your help. I'm going to try the virtualbox thing.
[11:36] <jerinian> is there a place for a pinguy os guy here?
[11:36] <szal> jerinian: definitely not here
[11:36] <sab0> szal : i am only worried about to reinstall the newer version from the scratch because i am using windows 7 and before i suffered a lot with grub loader ;thats why i wanted to upgrade rather reinstall it again
[11:36] <dr_willis> jerinian:  they have their own channels and forums
[11:36] <susheel> ethernet card is not detecting
[11:37] <jerinian> szal : ok i was hoping someone could help me here, yeah they have their own channel, but no one seem to care
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> sounds lonely, jerinian ;)
[11:37] <jerinian> its my 2nd day joining the pinguy channel and not a word from them :(
[11:38] <jerinian> monkeydust: yes
[11:38] <jerinian> can i atleast join here for a day?
[11:38] <szal> jerinian: that's why you don't use distros that appear to have no user base ;)
[11:38] <theadmin> jerinian: Only for Ubuntu question.
[11:38] <Richie086> susheel: lspci and paste output to pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:38] <jerinian> yes, its about ubuntu
[11:39] <szal> jerinian: you can stay here all the time you want, but what's on-topic here is technical talk about those Ubuntu flavours released by Canonical and not modified by a third party
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> jerinian: i used to have pinguy os in vbox, come to #ubuntu-offtopic, maybe i ca help
[11:39] <szal> jerinian: iow, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Lubuntu
[11:40] <jerinian> really? thanks
[11:40] <jerinian> szal: what iow?
[11:41] <szal> jerinian: in other words
[11:42] <jerinian> hehe, now i know.
[11:42] <jerinian> szal: is there also a channel for wine gamers or users?
[11:43] <susheel> richie,thank u bro
[11:43] <szal> jerinian: there is #winehq and there's the AppDB
[11:43] <szal> !appdb
[11:45] <lnxten> jenerian, #winehq
[11:45] <dellph> hello guys
[11:45] <dellph> how to lock version in command line (cli) in ubuntu ?
[11:46] <theadmin> dellph: Do what?
[11:46] <harsh343> I am trying to install netebans but now able to do that
[11:46] <harsh343> how can i ?
[11:46] <harsh343> netbeans*
[11:47] <dellph> theadmin, lock a version in a certain package
[11:47] <llutz_> !pinning | dellph
[11:47] <theadmin> dellph: echo "packagename hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[11:47] <dellph> theadmin, thanks!
[11:47] <mao> does kernel 2.6 support gnome3
[11:48] <Pavilliox> Hey guys, I have a problem. Ubuntu 11.10 is my main OS with GRUB being my main bootloader, i've just installed XP on another partition and done sudo update-grub but grub can't find XP.
[11:48] <theadmin> mao: lolwut, kernel has nothing to do with gnome. Yes, gnome3 works with 2.6.x
[11:49] <Pavilliox> anyone? D:
[11:49] <theadmin> Pavilliox: Patience, dude, nobody can answer right away
[11:49] <Pavilliox> theadmin: I know, it's just this is irritating me
[11:49] <Pavilliox> I don't understand why update-grub hasn't found XP
[11:49] <theadmin> Pavilliox: Tell it where it is manually, eh...
[11:50] <Pavilliox> theadmin: How? I don't really wanna be editing the grub files
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Pavilliox: there's this thing call bootmanager
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> called*
[11:51] <mao> theadmin: I copy my ubuntu's kernel and module to fedora's root,and the fedora can boot correctly,except that gnome3 does't work,what do you think the problem is?
[11:52] <llutz_> mao: ask in #fedora
[11:52] <szal> mao: we don't support Fedora here
[11:52] <theadmin> mao: errrrrrrrrrrr... That's a very odd thing to do...
[11:52] <Pavilliox> MonkeyDust: Is it called bootmanager in the repos?
[11:52] <szal> mao: and if you mix stuff from different distros, you're on your own anyway
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Pavilliox: lemme check
[11:52] <scotty^> mao: Are you creating a Frankenlinux?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> Pavilliox: try startupmanager
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> "StartUp-Manager configures some settings for grub, usplash and"
[11:54] <Pavilliox> MonkeyDust: Already have, can't find anything with that, that's just to edit the boot timing, etc
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> splash screens. It provides an easy to use interface.
[11:54] <mao> I don't want to compile the kernel because it's a waste of time,so i use a existing one
[11:54] <llutz_> mao: whatever, offtopic here
[11:56] <mao> llutz: ok,i'll ask help in #fedora,thanks anyway
[11:56] <llutz_> mao: btw they'll refuse to help you too. i guess
[11:56] <Exopaladin> I don't think you'll get much support in there either
[11:56] <llutz_>  < szal> mao: and if you mix stuff from different distros, you're on your own anyway
[11:56] <scotty^> mao:  Just like Dr Frankenstein's monster, I predict much horror, and then it will all end in tears.
[11:57] <scotty^> mao:  And Fedora already comes with a precompiled kernel.
[11:57] <szal> *buntu kernel in Fedora..  I doubt that he will be received with open arms in #fedora
[11:57] <llutz_> mao: try ##linux or find some gnome(3) channels
[11:58] <Pavilliox> Any other ideas as how to add XP to GRUB2?
[11:58] <arsh-local> hi
[11:58] <notinventedhere> connect irc.debian.org
[11:58] <notinventedhere> arf!
[11:58] <obert-> meow
[11:58] <theadmin> obert-: meow
[11:59] <mao> Fedora's precompiled kernel has a small problem on my computer but bothering me a lot
[11:59] <harsh343> how can i download netebans latest version in my ubuntu
[11:59] <harsh343> netbeans*
[11:59] <Pavilliox> harsh343: Check the software center
[11:59] <arsh-local> salammm
[11:59] <harsh343> Pavilliox, i checked but not able to found
[11:59] <deej1976> harsh343: netbeans is not in the repositries
[11:59] <scotty^> mao: And this problem is fixed in Ubuntu's kernel?
[12:00] <Pavilliox> harsh343: http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html
[12:00] <notinventedhere> leave
[12:00] <livingdaylight> hi
[12:00] <chelz> any reason to prefer the 11.04 release over 11.10?
[12:01] <deej1976> chelz: gnome2
[12:01] <mao> scoopex: on my ubuntu it works well
[12:01] <detly> I'd like to defragment a fat32 formatted hard drive from ubuntu, but I can't use the "copy off and back" trick because the data won't fit anywhere else... google hasn't helped here, so can anyone tell me if such a utility exists?
[12:01] <harsh343> Pavilliox, ok
[12:01] <livingdaylight> does anyone know what a mzp file is? Can it be mounted/extracted in ubuntu? the README file says to mount it with winrar ??
[12:01] <mao> scotty^:on my ubuntu it works well
[12:01] <chelz> deej1976: i'm basically planning on going with xfce to handle all that
[12:01] <szal> livingdaylight: http://filext.com/
[12:02] <Pavilliox> detly: You're going to have to have enough space for the files. Are you formatting because of fat32s 4gb filesize limit?
[12:02] <livingdaylight> szal what's that?
[12:02] <harsh343> deej1976, which editor is the best for php ?
[12:02] <deej1976> chelz: 11.10 xubuntu should be fine, any one else?
[12:02] <omry> hi. just upgraded to 11.10, how do I get rid of unity?
[12:02] <detly> Pavilliox: I'm not formatting anything, and I have enough space for the files - they're already on this disk
[12:02] <remalaka99_> haha
[12:02] <szal> livingdaylight: telling you what file extensions are known to belong to
[12:02] <deej1976> harsh343: I like geany, with syntax highlighting
[12:02] <Pavilliox> detly: I'm confused to what you're asking
[12:03] <Pavilliox> detly: Oh derp, I misread. You're trying to defrag
[12:03] <harsh343> deej1976, and what about net beans ???????
[12:03] <chelz> deej1976: have you heard of any major issues one should be aware of? (stuff not on the release notes)
[12:03] <detly> Pavilliox: I was as confused as you :P
[12:03] <deej1976> harsh343: I only do small updates and tests, netbeans is overkill for me.
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> !netbeans
[12:04] <deej1976> chelz: I'm on 11.04 using gnome2, haven't used x.
[12:04] <harsh343> deej1976, today i m installing netbeans and now i wil try to work on that
[12:05] <deej1976> harsh343: Go for it, it install on 11.10 when I tested it.
[12:05] <chelz> deej1976: what are you going to do when support runs out for 11.04?
[12:05] <harsh343> ok
[12:05] <deej1976> chelz: When I get time, 11.10 gnome3
[12:05] <omry> just upgraded to 11.10, and I think I`m missing some stuff,. specifically I dont have the "Login" application. also missing a lot of icons (I get white icons instead)
[12:05] <omry> and idea?
[12:06] <chelz> deej1976: gnome3 over xfce and kde?
[12:06] <deej1976> chelz: xfce would be next. never been one for kde.
[12:06] <Tyrope> theadmin: that "VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk \\.\PhysicalDrive0 -filename C:\lol.vdi" command, do I run that from the windows cmdline?
[12:08] <theadmin> Tyrope: Yeah, from the folder where virtualbox is installed
[12:08] <Tyrope> theadmin: thx.
[12:11] <harsh343> deej1976, I want to know how can i eliminate permissions denied, right now i am facing some problem in copy and paste and so many things
[12:11] <harsh343> is it possible to remove permission denied from the system
[12:11] <easytiger>  /msg NickServ identify geryman
[12:12] <deej1976> harsh343: With out seeing the complete error. I'm assuming you are trying to copy files to somewhere else on the filesystem, possible /var/www ?
[12:12] <jerinian> bye guys! thanks
[12:12] <sab0> hello i am using ubunt 10.04,want to install firefox 8,can anyone help me
[12:13] <tkruise> -NickServ- easytiger has been ghosted.
[12:13] <tkruise> haha
[12:13] <harsh343> deej1976, not like that
[12:13] <harsh343> i am able to copy and paste after using sudo nautilus
[12:13] <deej1976> sab0: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[12:13] <scotty^> omry: LightDM has replaced the GNOME login/session manager
[12:13] <scotty^> !lightdm
[12:13] <harsh343> but i want that my system never ask me to permissions
[12:14] <Skummel> easytiger I would change that pw if I were you ;)
[12:14] <easytiger> Skummel, just did!
[12:14] <easytiger> opps
[12:14] <tkruise> he changed...
[12:14] <jrib> harsh343: what are you copying and where are you pasting it?
[12:14] <omry> scotty^, its supposed to be installed by default?
[12:15] <theadmin> easytiger, for future reference, do the nickserv commands in a private message window with nickserv to avoid potential issues like these
[12:15] <easytiger> theadmin, thanks my irc client is new and jumpped windows on me
[12:15] <harsh343> jrib, actually i have to edit some php pages but ubuntu always tell me for permissions denied after that i am using sudo nautilus but i want to make my system permission free
[12:16] <jrib> harsh343: what are you copying and where are you pasting it?
[12:16] <omry> scotty^, I am trying to get back to the classic desktop. online I found that its supposed to be done via the login app.
[12:16] <harsh343> right now i am not able to download netbeans also
[12:16] <omry> (for 11.10)
[12:16] <harsh343> again the same problem
[12:17] <harsh343> jrib, i want to make my www folder free
[12:17] <scotty^> sab0: Ubuntu's Mozilla team has a PPA at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[12:17] <harsh343> from permissions
[12:17] <jrib> harsh343: say a path.
[12:17] <someonelese> is there a way to use find, to search all subfolders in a certain folder for files that end on .foo ; but to display only folders that DO NOT contain .foo files?
[12:17] <harsh343> var/www
[12:17] <jrib> harsh343: I assume you mean /var/www.  Are you the only user or are there multiple users?
[12:17] <harsh343> i am only
[12:17] <jrib> !permissions > harsh343
[12:18] <jrib> harsh343: make your user the owner of /var/www (recursively)
[12:18] <harsh343> jrib, how ?
[12:18] <deej1976> harsh343: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers look at the NOPASSWD: option
[12:18] <jrib> harsh343: read ubottu's link
[12:19] <scotty^> omry: Yes.
[12:20] <someonelese> is there a way to use find, to search all subfolders in a certain folder for files that end on .foo ; but to display only folders that DO NOT contain .foo files?  i got as far as: find . -name "*.foo" -print  which would print all .foo files in all subfolders...
[12:20] <scotty^> omry: The classic GNOME desktop has been dropped in 11.10.
[12:20] <omry> scotty^, seriously?
[12:21] <jrib> someonelese: I don't understand your question... you want to search all directories that do not have ".foo" files for files that end with ".foo"
[12:22] <theadmin> someonelese: find . !name "*.foo" -print
[12:22] <someonelese> jrib, i want to search all subdirectories and list the ones that do not  contain .foo files
[12:22] <scotty^> omry: Yeah.  If your graphics hardware doesn't support Unity 3D you fall back to the new Unity 2D.
[12:23] <omry> scotty^, its my brain that does not support unity
[12:23] <sab0> scotty^:i am novice user running ubuntu 10.04 and want to update firefox from version 3.6 to 8.0
[12:23] <omry> I think it sucks
[12:23] <nixmaniack> how can start in terminal only?
[12:23] <scotty^> omry:  If you hate Unity, despite it having improved since 11.04, your options are Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu or another distro.
[12:23] <someonelese> jrib, theadmin, it's for latex, i have all the .tex files in subdirectories, and i think i lost track of some of those directories..so i want to list the subdirectories that do not contain .tex files yet
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> nixmaniack: choose recovery console when logging in
[12:24] <nixmaniack> MonkeyDust, i want to make that as my default, and I don't want root terminal
[12:24] <scotty^> sab0: The aforementioned PPA should take care of that for you.
[12:24] <nixmaniack> MonkeyDust, i actually want to start Ubuntu CLI only
[12:25] <omry> scotty^,  sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[12:25] <sab0> scotty^: i added that ppa to my software fource list but not finding any update of firefox there
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> nixmaniack: it's runlevel thing,then, but i'm not experienced with that
[12:25] <jerinian> MonkeyDust: it worked! :D can you please provide the channel again? i 4got its ubuntu off-topic?
[12:25] <scotty^> omry:  Ah OK, I didn't know about that.  Thanks.
[12:25] <nixmaniack> MonkeyDust, yeah, it's related to runlevel
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> jerinian: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <omry> scotty^, didnt test it yet
[12:26] <omry> but in genereal there are alot of indictions on the web that its still there
[12:26] <Tyrope> theadmin: That command you gave me shoots an SyntaxError.
[12:27] <Tyrope> is there a space between \\.\ and PhysicalDrive0?
[12:27] <sab0> i am novice user running ubuntu 10.04 and want to update firefox from version 3.6 to 8.0 ; can any one help me how can i do that?
[12:27] <theadmin> Tyrope: No
[12:27] <Tyrope> theadmin: you made a typo then. ;)
[12:27] <Tyrope> or no, I did.
[12:27] <Tyrope> derp.
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> sab0: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/8.0/linux-i686/en-GB/
[12:28] <scotty^> sab0: Did u reload the package-list after adding the PPA to your sources?
[12:28] <theadmin> Tyrope: lol
[12:29] <diverdude> Hello. How do i set up a afp server on my ubuntu server?
[12:29] <sab0> scotty^: I dont know how to do that,can you please tell me?
[12:29] <deej1976> sab0: In a terminal- sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:29] <deej1976> sab0: Check if firefox is in the list.
[12:29] <scotty^> sab0:  What deej1976 said.
[12:30] <sab0> deej1976, scotty^  thank you
[12:30] <scotty^> sab0: Or open Synaptic package manager and click the reload toolbar button.
[12:30] <anand> hello i need help with this http://pastebin.com/kkS7rXdV
[12:31] <anand> while installing lamp-server
[12:32] <hotmedal> anand: what
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> anand: it says 'broken packages', reboot in recovery mode and choose repair, for a start
[12:32] <iceroot> anand: waht is the output of "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server"
[12:33] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: anand dont reboot your system. its useless and the error means something different
[12:33] <hotmedal> ahahaha nice
[12:34] <someonelese> jrib, the admin, sorry xchat crashed
[12:34] <jjoosshh> Hello, my recent 11.10 install does not seem to have configured MS fonts for Libreoffice correctly. As in, the package seems to be installed but they aren't showing up in LO. Is this a known bug?
[12:35] <scotty^> sab0:  Did it work?
[12:35] <anand> apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server http://pastebin.com/QsWbUwcT
[12:35] <anand> output of the above command
[12:36] <anand> iceroot :
[12:36] <llutz_> MonkeyDust: how should a reboot/recovery mode help with wpts broken packages?
[12:36] <llutz_> with*
[12:36] <iceroot> anand: output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-worker"
[12:36] <someonelese> jrib, theadmin, basically, i want a find command that searches directory (find . -type d) but list only those that do not contain .tex files (-not -name *.tex ?) but i don't know how to combine the find . -type d with find . -type f -not -name *.tex....
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> llutz_: it's how i do it
[12:36] <jrib> someonelese: don't know how to do that offhand and it's kind of interesting to think about.  But if I was pressed for time, I would just search for all the directories that have .tex, search for all directories (put all this stuff in two files and then use comm
[12:37] <llutz_> MonkeyDust: you do it wrong
[12:37] <theadmin> someonelese: !name *.tex
[12:37] <harsh343> deej1976, can You please give me the command for terminate permission on /var/www i do not want to permission here
[12:37] <jrib> someonelese: #bash might have a better suggestion
[12:37] <jrib> someonelese: (vs. mine)
[12:37] <theadmin> someonelese: Just replace the - with ! and ou get the negative :D
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> llutz_: not knowing it is wrong, it helps most of the time
[12:37] <harsh343> deej1976, i am not able to read all the documentation i am newbie in ubuntu
[12:37] <someonelese> theadmin, srsly?
[12:37] <theadmin> someonelese: Yeah
[12:37] <someonelese> theadmin, give me a sec, i'll try that
[12:38] <llutz_> MonkeyDust: its just useless in that case
[12:38] <theadmin> someonelese: That's one of useful thingies in find
[12:39] <deej1976> harsh343: to change the ownership of /var/www use the following command: sudo chown -R harsh343:harsh343 /var/www
[12:39] <someonelese> theadmin, hmm it gives error "event not found"
[12:39] <deej1976> harsh343: where harsh343 is your system username
[12:39] <theadmin> someonelese: Oh, bash problem... Try \!name
[12:40] <Tyrope> theadmin: I have a new error. when I try to boot the virtual machine labelled "Ubuntu" I get: "Cannot access the kernel driver! Make sure the kernel driver has been loaded successfully!" [abort] After I click abort I get: "The virtual machine 'ubuntu' has terminated unexpectedly during startup" E_FAIL 0x800004005
[12:40] <anand> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/GtxGrrbv
[12:40] <someonelese> theadmin, that works, but find complains !name is an unknown option..
[12:40] <theadmin> Tyrope: Huh, the kernel driver, errrr... Try rebooting the host OS.
[12:40] <Tyrope> theadmin: did that already
[12:40] <theadmin> someonelese: Oh, sorry, guess I read the manpage wrong
[12:40] <someonelese> also, wouldn't find . !name not do the same as find . -not -name ?
[12:41] <theadmin> Tyrope: wtf... I suppose you did run the virtualbox installer with admin priveleges, right?
[12:41] <sutija> Hi to all
[12:41] <zimnyx> Is threre some official Unity-complaint page? :-) I'm becoming more and more frustrated by new Unity "features" (no font size switching; alt-tab switches between all,not current workspace; ...) and I want to vote against somehow.
[12:41] <sutija> :)
[12:41] <iceroot> anand: dont use that ppa, its the reason the installation is broken
[12:41] <someonelese> theadmin: also, wouldn't find . !name not do the same as find . -not -name ?
[12:41] <harsh343> deej1976, thanks alots not i am able to edit anything in www
[12:41] <harsh343> now*
[12:41] <Tyrope> theadmin: there's only 1 user, and it's WinXP... that gives auto-admin, right?
[12:41] <iceroot> anand:         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ptn107/testing/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages   this is the problem
[12:41] <llutz_> someonelese: it would (find path ! -name)
[12:41] <theadmin> Tyrope: Yeah lol... Hm... Something totally weird there, sorry, no ideas.
[12:41] <anand> iceroot: i am going to purge that then
[12:41] <Tyrope> theadmin: shall i try recreating the .vdi?
[12:41] <iceroot> anand: its holding different versions then the one from the normal repos and because of that, dependencies doesnt fit
[12:41] <sutija> zimnyx: why don't You use xubuntu? :)
[12:41] <sutija> it's lighter
[12:42] <Tyrope> theadmin: or maybe lack of RAM? host only has 128MB
[12:42] <harsh343> deej1976, means by changing the last path i am able to grant permissions any folder ?
[12:42] <sutija> and more "desktop" friendly :)
[12:42] <iceroot> anand: deb http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/repository karmic/   this sounds strange because you are on lucid
[12:42] <harsh343> deej1976, all permission like read write and remove all those stuffs
[12:42] <anand> iceroot: yeah i can see that
[12:42] <tkruise> is linux mint based on ubuntu? if so, does it have a software center?
[12:43] <iceroot> anand: with that ppa its trying to install 2.2.20-0ubuntu1testing1~lucid1  which is a bad idea
[12:43] <auronandace> !mint | tkruise
[12:43] <siefca> hi
[12:43] <iceroot> anand: please only use official ubuntu-repos. everything else is not supported here
[12:43] <someonelese> llutz_ theadmin: it does... i am actually a bit under pressure with this so i'll try what jrib suggested and use comm to compare two lists
[12:43] <deej1976> harsh343: Have you changed the permissions with chmod?
[12:43] <anand> iceroot: actually one of my friend told me to try that
[12:43] <zimnyx> sutija: it's based on XFce?
[12:43] <anand> iceroot: ok how to fix all this
[12:44] <sutija> yes :)
[12:44] <harsh343> deej1976, no
[12:44] <auronandace> !xubuntu | zimnyx
[12:44] <someonelese> llutz_ theadmin jrib, that should do it too, just not as simple as with find
[12:44] <harsh343> deej1976, but as per you command i am able to edit anything
[12:44] <deej1976> harsh343: Yes
[12:44] <zimnyx> sutija: my problem is not Gnome, it's Unity.
[12:44] <sutija> I see... :)
[12:45] <sutija> zimnyx: I see :)
[12:45] <deej1976> !notunity
[12:45] <siefca> after upgrade to Natty my system hangs during halt, in the phase where init process should end. it waits for some line signal from /dev/ttyS0 (i have serial console) and it continues halt only if i make the serial line active for a second.
[12:45] <harsh343> and also the same thing i apply for downloads folder and now i am able to edit in downloads also
[12:45] <harsh343> this command is very useful for me thanks alots dear
 :) You should use xfce or KDE if you don' t like latest GNOME
[12:45] <harsh343> deej1976,
[12:45] <sutija> :)
[12:45] <zimnyx> deej1976: thanks.
[12:46] <zimnyx> sutija: I haven't said I don't like Gnome :)
[12:46] <sutija> :)
[12:46] <zimnyx> sutija: thanks, I'll try switching to gnome-shell.
[12:47] <harsh343> deej1976, and why chmod ?
[12:47] <siefca> simple read from serial line on the other end (terminal emulator) helps but that's nasty workaround. I'm wondering if anyone using serial console had this problem while system stops.
[12:47] <llutz_> someonelese: i guess theres no simple find-oneliner for that.
[12:47] <zimnyx> deej1976: thanks!
[12:47] <someonelese> llutz_ i think so too...
[12:47] <deej1976> harsh343: Change mod, in a terminal do man chmod and have a read
[12:47] <deej1976> mode*
[12:48] <pimperle> why do i have to use "--full-resolver" every time when running aptitude safe-upgrade? this started with oneiric
[12:48] <dw-> i need a step by step guide on how to copy GPG keys to NSS for use in LibreWriter PDF signing.  there is nothing that works around the net.  is today my lucky day?
[12:48] <harsh343> deej1976, but why i need this i am able to do anything with the previous command only
[12:49] <deej1976> Which previous command?
[12:50] <harsh343> deej1976, in the after noon chmod helps me when i am unable to read the any folder inside the www after that i am using sudo chmod 755 -R /var/www and able to read
[12:51] <zetui> hello
[12:51] <zetui> there
[12:51] <zetui> dd on command it is for what purpose ?
[12:52] <ispirto> hey, i have a bin file which contains a gzip file, i'm trying to get the gzip part from it. I know gzip files starts with "1F 8B 08". So I open the bin file with a hex editor and search for that string. And get the offset. Convert it to decimal and use it in dd command. i.e: dd if=openrg-4.5.3.PRGE4202G_TEL_4.3.2.0250-DRGTW_96358.rmt of=test.img.gz bs=1c skip=28437 But it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
[12:52] <Borukanika> ?
[12:53] <compdoc> zetui, from google:   In computing, dd is a common Unix program whose primary purpose is the low-level copying and conversion of raw data.
[12:53] <deej1976> harsh343: chmod -R 755 changed the permissions so all files are w,r,x for the owner and only r,x for groups and others. chown made you the owner of the www directory
[12:54] <zetui> yes but i don't understand what it is written here : 'is the low-level copying and conversion of raw data'
[12:54] <zetui> is that same as cp ?
[12:54] <Thelmaria> ispirto: Have you tried running it through urar or similar to remove compression?
[12:54] <compdoc> cp copies files, dd copies drives
[12:54] <compdoc> or partitions
[12:54] <harsh343> deej1976, and also not i am able to install netbeans now
[12:54] <harsh343> thanks alots
[12:54] <harsh343> very helpful today
[12:55] <ispirto> Thelmaria, it's a firmware file. so it won't work :)
[12:55] <llutz_> dd copies raw-data, from nearly everywhere
[12:55] <harsh343> deej1976, actually due to so many command i always move to xp , i have two os in my lapi now i never do that
[12:56] <Tyrope> theadmin: I just realized... when setting up the VM, do i set it up as a WinXP or Ubuntu one?
[12:56] <Tyrope> (reinstalling vBox now btw. just to make sure it's on admin rights.)
[12:56] <deej1976> harsh343: Welcome to a better world
[12:57] <iceroot> anand: comment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list then run "sudo apt-get uddate"  to edit use "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:57] <harsh343> deej1976, yes
[12:57] <harsh343> thanks
[12:58] <zetui> what do you c&all raw-data ?
[12:59] <llutz_> zetui: raw = dd doesnn't care if that is text/binary/anything
[13:00] <zetui> an example
[13:00] <harsh343> deej1976, right now i am installing this netbeans-trunk-nightly-201111080600-ml-php-linux.sh now how can i install
[13:00] <harsh343> ?
[13:01] <deej1976> harsh343: Why do want the nightly-build? and not the stable from netbeans.org
[13:01] <hotmedal> what file compression utility does ubuntu use by default?
[13:02] <hotmedal> i.e. what is the name of the program?
[13:02] <deej1976> !file-roller
[13:02] <auronandace> zetui: you can create a backup of an entire harddrive with dd
[13:02] <hotmedal> thanks
[13:02] <petan|work> someone knows how to set up dovecot?
[13:02] <harsh343> deej1976, i am also newbie in netbeans but i want to use this, actually i am always using notepad++ and dream weaver but now in ubuntu it is gedit and also i want netbeans
[13:02] <llutz_> zetui: dd if=/dev/sda of=/tmp/mbr.dat bs=440 count=1                        will read 440 bytes from your disk and write it into a file, it doesn't care WHAT data it is reading
[13:02] <harsh343> deej1976, any wrong installation
[13:02] <harsh343> means download
[13:02] <diverdude> San
[13:03] <psilo23> So basicly there is no other solution to play silverlight streams then install windows ?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> psilo23: there's moonlight
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:03] <deej1976> psilo23: moonlight
[13:03] <auronandace> psilo23: if moonlight can't handle it then no
[13:03] <hotmedal> "File Roller is a graphical interface to archiving utilities such as tar and zip.
[13:03] <psilo23> MonkeyDust: It doesnt work properly
[13:04] <psilo23> How lame is that :D
[13:04] <szal> psilo23: Silverlight is lame in the 1st place
[13:04] <hotmedal> deej1976: what does that mean?
[13:04] <psilo23> szal: i didnt choose it :)
[13:04] <petan|work> imho whole silverlight is lame
[13:04] <psilo23> and btw flash is lame also
[13:04] <auronandace> psilo23: ever thought that microsoft intentionly made it that way?
[13:04] <psilo23> auronandace: Thatś the weakest argument i ever heard :)
[13:04] <petan|work> but true
[13:05] <psilo23> for not getting something to work
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> psilo23: MS will do everything to make it unusable on other systems than win
[13:05] <auronandace> psilo23: wow, you aren't very up-to-speed on vendor lock-in are you? :)
[13:05] <deej1976> hotmedal: It's a GUI, to commands like bzip2, gzip, tar, 7zip etc...
[13:05] <psilo23> thats the lamest argument i ever heard, period
[13:05] <excogitation>  /join #lubuntu
[13:06] <psilo23> it didnt stop people in the past
[13:06] <hotmedal> so all of those programs exist separately?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> psilo23: then you say MS is lame
[13:06] <_joey> and the best distro is ...?
[13:06] <psilo23> i say the argument that it doesnt work is lame
[13:06] <szal> !best | _joey
[13:06] <psilo23> people should get it to work instead of saying it doesnt work
[13:06] <petan|work> is here someone who knows how to set up dovecot?
[13:06] <excogitation> who can tell me what package the battery app relies on / with what it confilcts? (xmessage: "low  battery")
[13:06] <petan|work> or any other mail server
[13:06] <auronandace> _joey: the one that fulfills your needs...
[13:07] <psilo23> that it doesnt work is a fact, that people dont fix it, is a shame
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> psilo23: what's keeping you?
[13:07] <illsci> Can reprepro make multi versioned apt repos?
[13:07] <psilo23> MonkeyDust: If i could i would :D
[13:07] <psilo23> too bad im not a coder
[13:07] <_joey> auronandace: the best is one which is well designed and supported
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> maybe coders are not interested enough in silverlight
[13:07] <_joey> and it's stable
[13:07] <deej1976> harsh343: download the stable netbenas and then in a terminal run chmod 777 ~/Downloads/netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh ; sudo ~/Downloads/netbeans-7.0.1-ml-linux.sh
[13:08] <_joey> RedHat linux has been the best but nobody wants to acknowledge it
[13:08] <zetui> if i get instead of using this one : tar -C /tmp/cproot -cvf - . | tar -C /mnt -xvf -
[13:08] <excogitation> is the gui for network proxy missing in 11.10? if not - what is the package name that provides it?
[13:08] <qin> psilo23: Follow moonlight project, also M$ propised to donate silverlight "techology" to html5, check this too.
[13:08] <auronandace> _joey: there are many (notice how vague my answers are, in line with your questions)
[13:08] <qin> *promised
[13:08] <szal> Silverlight is a dead end anyway, and so is Flash..  Windows 8 will rely heavily on HTML5
[13:08] <llutz_> _joey:  Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[13:08] <zetui> we can use dd  correct ? llutz_
[13:08] <psilo23> But the thing that bothers me the most is that i switched to Ubuntu thinking this community was so great, then i have a question about Silverlight / Moonlight and people tell me to install windows
[13:08] <_joey> llutz_: feeling touchy?
[13:08] <llutz_> _joey: too much trolls here
[13:09] <auronandace> psilo23: silverlight is a ms specific technology, what do you expect?
[13:09] <_joey> I don't troll too much here :)
[13:09] <ispirto> gzip: test.gz is a multi-part gzip file -- not supported
[13:09] <llutz_> _joey: you do
[13:09] <_joey> just a little
[13:09] <ikonia> _joey: ok - well keep to the ubuntu support discussion topic only
[13:09] <psilo23> auronandace: There is more things that is windows sepcific that do run on linux
[13:09] <psilo23> thats what i expect
[13:09] <psilo23> ;)
[13:09] <zetui> if i get instead of using this one : tar -C /tmp/cproot -cvf - . | tar -C /mnt -xvf -   dd we can use dd is that what you mean ?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> troll
[13:09] <zetui> llutz
[13:10] <ispirto> I'm getting this error: gzip: test.gz is a multi-part gzip file -- not supported when I use gunzip test.gz. How can I extract this file?
[13:10]  * conntrack doesn't like plugging a windows machine into his network
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> psilo23: try to motivate coders to work on silverlight
[13:10] <BluesKaj> psilo23, unfortunately moonlight won't work with web based apps like netflix , if someone told you that it does then they were mistaken
[13:10] <szal> psilo23: using something for ideological reasons is a flawed approach anyway..  you use something because it works for you, unless you have too much time (and perhaps money) on your hands
[13:10] <psilo23> i use linux because i hate windows
[13:10] <psilo23> :P
[13:10] <Retrace> hi, I installed ubuntu server with lvm encryption. Everything so far so good and used the MAX disk capacity. Now when everything is installed and I do free -g I only see that I have 3 gig left while the disk is 250 gig.
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> moonlight is the closest thing to silverlight
[13:11] <psilo23> szal: To be honest Moonlight does work, only not properly.... I can stream using it but it will keep a logo in the center of the stream saying "Loading..."
[13:11] <psilo23> I still wonder why this website i want to stream uses Silverlight
[13:11] <_joey> psilo23: I love windows
[13:12] <psilo23> but yeah thats another thing
[13:12] <psilo23> _joey: thatś good for you
[13:12] <_joey> ms windows 7 is the best at the moment
[13:12] <BluesKaj> psilo23, you don't get linux brownie points for "hating" windows :P
[13:12] <llutz_> zetui: not dd, "rsync -aux /tmp/cproot /mnt"
[13:12] <ikonia> joepa: ubuntu support discussion only please.
[13:12] <psilo23> BluesKaj: I dont need any points, sorry :)
[13:12] <ikonia> oops
[13:12] <ikonia> _joey: ubuntu support discussion only please.
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> psilo23: you're trolling
[13:12] <BluesKaj> psilo23, :)
[13:12] <jasef> !ot | _joey
[13:12] <psilo23> MonkeyDust: shut up
[13:12] <_joey> !ot jasef
[13:13] <psilo23> youre trolling yourself
[13:13] <zetui> why in this case we can not use dd ? llutz_
[13:13] <llutz_> zetui: you cannot easily use dd to copy multiple files
[13:14] <szal> dd is for creating images, not for copying files
[13:14] <llutz_> zetui: it works blockwise, not filewise. you want to use google for some better explanations of dd
[13:14] <psilo23> Pfffff, i hate this moonlight plugin already, but i just want to stream from this website, its horrible... the only other option they leave you is pressing a buttons Windows Media Player but those i cant stream also i guess
[13:14] <ispirto> anyone? :)
[13:14] <ispirto> I'm getting this error: gzip: test.gz is a multi-part gzip file -- not supported when I use gunzip test.gz. How can I extract this file?
[13:15] <deej1976> ispirto: You need the other parts of the gzip file.
[13:15] <deej1976> ispirto: It's incomplete
[13:15] <henkye> why is nvidia driver in ubuntu repos so old btw ? like 185, when 285 is out ?
[13:15] <ispirto> deej1976, i've extracted this gzip file from a bin file
[13:15] <ispirto> i don't think there are other parts
[13:15] <szal> ispirto: how about using the script containing the archive to extract it?  if the author(s) haven't omitted that for whatever reason, it should come w/ an extract-only option
[13:15] <iceroot> henkye: because there are never major-updates in the repos, just security updates
[13:16] <Thelmaria> ispirto: There's an FAQ on the gzip site - http://www.gzip.org/#faq2
[13:16] <szal> henkye: where do you have a v185 nVidia driver?
[13:16] <szal> henkye: and for what video card?
[13:18] <henkye> szal: well, i was outdated, now watching there's v280 in nvidia-current
[13:19] <szal> henkye: still, for what card?
[13:19] <szal> henkye: and in what *buntu version?
[13:19] <henkye> szal: 7600gs
[13:19] <zetui> perfect thanks a lot llutz_
[13:19] <henkye> szal: 11.10
[13:19] <szal> henkye: in that case it's all correct
[13:20] <NCS_One> hi
[13:21] <talf> Hi All..
[13:21] <talf> got a question.
[13:22] <talf> currently using ubuntu 11.10 and got nvidia vga card (8600GT)
[13:22] <talf> After a few minutes I got terrible lag..
[13:22] <SwedeMike> !enter | talf
[13:22] <irc2samus> hi guys, I'm having a problem with the themes today in 11.04 it seems something changed the settings and now changes from the "themes" tab aren't taking effect, how can I reset this? I'm not really using any customization just the default
[13:23] <henkye> talf: what driver u have ?   "terrible lag"  whats that ?
[13:23] <petan|work> someone who knows how to set up mail server?
[13:23] <talf> Sorry.. The only way to "fix" it is to restart gdm service. This happens with two different cards (8600GT & 430GT) and I tried using unity 2D and gnome with no effects. It always gets the same.
[13:24] <NCS_One> I'm using ubuntu 10.04 LTS and would like to use the latest version. Should I do all the upgrades or a new install?
[13:24] <irc2samus> here's a screenshot: http://imgur.com/MxrwM it should look as the default "ambierce" theme
[13:24] <irc2samus> err "ambiance"
[13:25] <henkye> talf: what driver u have ?   "terrible lag"  whats that ?
[13:25] <talf> xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/1Emy9ANR
[13:26] <talf> I'm using currently 285.05.09, by terrible lag I mean, that every thing moves very slow.. Even typing text has a severe delay.
[13:26] <drdozer> hi - I'm having trouble booting from my new ssd
[13:27] <henkye> talf: well, then we are two with same problem    anyone help ?
[13:28] <talf> henkye: you got the same problem two?
[13:28] <talf> *to
[13:28] <ThiagoLG> how to update firefox 7 to firefox 8 in ubuntu 10.04 lts ?
[13:28] <henkye> talf: not exactly me, but my friend
[13:29] <talf> I tried every version available for this kernel. On previous release (10.10) the 260.19 driver solved this problem, but it won't install on kernel 3.0
[13:30] <sutija> does anyone knows how to fix battery status in XUBUNTU 10.04 installed on EEEPC 4G SURF?
[13:30] <ali3n0> hi folks, do you know how to derive flages passed to ./configure when compiling an ubuntu deb package?
[13:30] <hotmedal> ThiagoLG:  ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/8.0/linux-i686/en-GB/
[13:30] <henkye> talf: what i didnt tried on his computer is to download driver from nvidia pages (since it has to be installed manually every new kernel)
[13:30] <ali3n0> for the records, I need to know how postgresql-8.4 has been compiled
[13:30] <henkye> talf: myself running that one, but i have old 7600gs
[13:31] <ThiagoLG> hotmedal nothing via ppa ? the stable not upgrade yet
[13:31] <hotmedal> no ppa yet
[13:31] <ThiagoLG> ok
[13:31] <ThiagoLG> thnaks
[13:31] <ThiagoLG> thanks
[13:31] <talf> The driver it self supports the card, but it refuses to install on 3.0 kernel (I tried both installation from the repositories and manually)
[13:32] <henkye> talf: thats weird, im running 3.0.x.x
[13:32] <henkye> talf: with NVIDIA-Linux-x86-285.05.09.run installed
[13:33] <szal> henkye: with the .run you're asking for trouble
[13:33] <talf> same here.. I was talking about the 260.19 which worked fine on 10.10
[13:33] <talf> I tried every version since 270, which supports kernel 3.0, and experienced the same behavior.
[13:33] <petan|work> someone who knows how to set up mail server?
[13:34] <mao> when i comlile the kernel,an error occurs,No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s
[13:35] <henkye> talf: i see    unfortunately have no idea, only i read nvidia have problems with x-server v.1.11   but normal ubuntu x is 1.10
[13:35] <drdozer> I'm currently booting from sdb and have linux on sdc - I've cloned the content of sdc to sda and want to boot from that without needing the other 2 disks
[13:35] <mao> compile the kernel
[13:35] <henkye> szal: i had trouble without it actually :-)
[13:36] <drdozer> I've run grub-install on sda, but when I look in sda2/boot/grub/grub.cfg, the file is identical to that on sdc1/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:39] <henkye> talf: there is script called sgfxi, which handles graphics drivers installation
[13:39] <henkye> talf: http://smxi.org/  u can give it try
[13:40] <llutz> !details | petan|work
[13:41] <Jayar> can't get my wireless to work. it says broadcom wireless driver is active in the additional drivers, but the connection is nowhere to be found
[13:44] <glitch-mod|2> how can I subtract 3 from the output of w | wc -l
[13:45] <harsh343> i am downloading this netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh but not able to install how can i install them, I am newbie in ubuntu
[13:45] <irc2samus> glitch-mod|2: echo $(($(w | wc -l) - 3))
[13:45] <glitch-mod|2> irc2samus: ahhhh thanks, I was trying to do it without echo no wonder :p
[13:46] <pushpop> Is there known issues with gnome 3.2 freezing up with 11.04?
[13:46] <irc2samus> well echo is just to see the output, the important part is $(())
[13:46] <harsh343> hello all help me
[13:46] <Klojum> are you drowning, harsh343 ?
[13:47] <harsh343> kloeri, nopes
[13:48] <Gentoo64> harsh343: have you tried searching the repos?
[13:48] <Klojum> Well, just ask your question.. asking to be helped is without question here
[13:48] <Gentoo64> harsh343: in linux you hardly ever have to download stuff yourself
[13:48] <Gentoo64> like windows
[13:49] <harsh343> Gentoo64, i m trying from dash but not able to do that after that i install from site
[13:50] <harsh343> i am downloading this netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh but not able to install how can i install them, I am newbie in ubuntu
[13:50] <harsh343> when i double click on file then it trying to open in gedit editor and hang
[13:50] <compdoc> .sh means a script you have to run
[13:50] <Gentoo64> harsh343: because it will
[13:50] <Klojum> have you changed the properties of the sh-file into 'executable' ?
[13:50] <Gentoo64> harsh343: run sh netbeans.sh
[13:51] <private_meta> hi... how can I get the current firefox version onto my system (10.04) from the repository? the firefox package install 3.6
[13:51] <henkye> harsh343: and make it executable in nautilus
[13:51] <Gentoo64> private_meta: what ubuntu version?
[13:51] <harsh343> henkye, yes i think this is best option
[13:51] <private_meta> Gentoo64: 10.04 as i said, desktop 64 if I'm not mistaken
[13:51] <Gentoo64> ah sorry
[13:51] <szal> Gentoo64: clean your glasses ;)
[13:52] <Gentoo64> im not with it today lol
[13:52] <Gentoo64> http://goo.gl/a12A
[13:53] <harsh343> henkye, after using again it is trying to open in gedit and hang
[13:53] <Gentoo64> harsh343: from terminal run sh netbeans-.sh
[13:54] <private_meta> Seriously? the current firefox version is not in the standard repo?
[13:54] <Gentoo64> private_meta: no
[13:54] <Gentoo64> private_meta: theyll still have security fixes
[13:54] <harsh343> henkye, after using again it is trying to open in gedit and hang
[13:54] <Gentoo64> private_meta: you're on 10.04 which is meant to be stable
[13:54] <henkye> harsh343: go to script location in terminal and type ./netbeans-script
[13:54] <private_meta> Gentoo64: i know, but 3.6 is already way too old
[13:55] <harsh343> harsh@harsh-3000:~$ sh netbeans-.sh
[13:55] <harsh343> sh: Can't open netbeans-.sh
[13:55] <Gentoo64> private_meta: 3.6 is stable version in a few distros still
[13:55] <CharlieSu> How can I keep lines like this from going to my auth.log ? https://gist.github.com/c6027a3843080d3003ee
[13:55] <CharlieSu> They come from a cron job
[13:55] <Gentoo64> harsh343: type the full name of the file or use tab
[13:55] <henkye> harsh343: it will maybe need root access, so type before executing it sudo -s
[13:56] <harsh343> henkye, ok
[13:56] <private_meta> ah yeah... launchpad... on our server here I can't properly install launchpad packages as our firewall blocks outgoing connections to the key server any idea how to circumvent that, like proxies or different port?
[13:56] <Gentoo64> itll say permission denied
[13:56] <llutz> petan|work: "status=bounced (mail for xx loops back to myself)"  there is your error, its misconfigured postfix/dns
[13:57] <audionb> hello, how do you write the characters «, …, »
[13:57] <petan|work> but isn't that correct? I was sending mail to itself
[13:57] <Gentoo64> audionb: the ones you just wrote?
[13:57] <petan|work> I sent email from me to me on localhost
[13:57] <audionb> Gentoo64: yes
[13:57] <Gentoo64> you just wrote them...
[13:57] <Gentoo64> or did you paste them? look on your keyboard
[13:58] <audionb> Gentoo64: i pasted them; they're not on my keyboard
[13:58] <llutz> petan|work: you have to tell postfix that this is your host. postfix bounced that mail, so it won't delivered
[13:58] <Klojum> Netbeans doesn't requiire root access...  simply use sudo sh ./netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh and it should install (if it is by now an executable)
[13:58] <Gentoo64> audionb: what keyboard do you have?
[13:58] <Gentoo64> no full stop or comma?
[13:58] <petan|work> how? do you want to see conf?
[13:58] <Gentoo64> thats madness
[13:58] <audionb> Gentoo64: azerty french keyboard
[13:58] <llutz> petan|work: read postfix virtual-readme
[13:58] <audionb> Gentoo64: i have comma, i have full stop
[13:58] <Gentoo64> no <>
[13:58] <Gentoo64> ?
[13:58] <audionb> Gentoo64: i also have <>
[13:59] <Gentoo64> so what dont you have?
[13:59] <petan|work> virtual-readme?
[13:59] <petan|work> what is it
[13:59] <harsh343> Gentoo64, harsh@harsh-3000:~$ sudo sh netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux -.sh
[13:59] <harsh343> [sudo] password for harsh:
[13:59] <harsh343> sh: Can't open netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux
[13:59] <audionb> Gentoo64: but i don't have '«' and i don't have '…' (triple points, that's just one character) either
[13:59] <llutz> petan|work: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[13:59] <Gentoo64> audionb: thats just 3 fullstops and 2 arrows
[13:59] <Gentoo64> ... <<
[13:59] <audionb> Gentoo64: no it's different, mine are just one character
[14:00] <Comnenus> I have a latitude e6420 with an nvidia 4200m.  I installed the proprietary driver (because X scrolls left and right slightly and I thought it would fix that).  Now when I go to preferences->monitors it says I'm not using the correct driver for that tool.  When I go to the NVIDIA X settings, it says I'm not using their driver, either.  This is on 10.04 LTS.  I'm not sure what to do.
[14:00] <Gentoo64> harsh343: type netbeans(then press tab) and itll type it for you correctly
[14:00] <Gentoo64> audionb: i dont get what you mean. i dont have a ">>" key
[14:00] <Gentoo64> thats 2 >'s
[14:00] <Gentoo64> >>>>>>>
[14:01] <audionb> Gentoo64: i know, me too >>>>>>>>; i'm just trying for a way to write the character '»' (which is not on any keyboard i think)
[14:01] <zetui> hello there
[14:01] <Gentoo64> lol
[14:01] <sipior> Gentoo64: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillemets
[14:01] <zetui> when i open my terminal i want that it show calendar and time
[14:02] <zetui> how to set that one ?
[14:02] <Gentoo64> ohhh
[14:02] <harsh343> Gentoo64, yes i know but right now it is not occur
[14:02] <Gentoo64> afaik youll have to paste
[14:02] <Gentoo64> or use some character map maybe
[14:03] <henkye> harsh343: have to go, in worst case there's https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans
[14:04] <petan|work> llutz: I don't see what's wrong in the config, it had everything as it should
[14:04] <inz> audionb, in Finnish layout I get »« from altgr+shift+3 and 4
[14:04] <sipior> audionb: might be of some use: http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2007/03/enyes-umlauts-and-other-accents.html
[14:04] <Gentoo64> audionb: sorry it might be my irc client not showing those characters prperly
[14:05] <Gentoo64> to me it looks like >><< but now i get what you mean
[14:05] <harsh343> Gentoo64, sudo sh netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh -.sh  is it right or wrong ?
[14:05] <audionb> Gentoo64: oh ok :) np; are you in the terminal?
[14:05] <Gentoo64> harsh343: wrong
[14:05] <Gentoo64> harsh343: you dont need a space after it "-.sh"
[14:05] <zetui> hello
[14:05] <Gentoo64> audionb: im in a vm in a console
[14:05] <Gentoo64> so it prob wont display them
[14:05] <zetui> when i run my terminal how auto call a command ?
[14:06] <Gentoo64> zetui: from a shortcut?
[14:06] <Klojum> try...  sudo sh ./netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh    It should install (if it is by now an executable)
[14:06] <petan|work> llutz: there is no "virtual" stuff in my main.cf, is it normal?
[14:06] <zetui> no for example i want that this command work when i open my terminal : watch cal
[14:07] <Gentoo64> zetui: make a shortcut or use bashrc
[14:07] <audionb> Gentoo64: i needed to configure the compose key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key
[14:07] <zetui> how to make a shortcut
[14:07] <Gentoo64> zetui: for a shortcut you can use gnome-terminal -e watch cal
[14:08] <zetui> where i have to find my shortcut ?
[14:08] <Gentoo64> audionb: ah i have really no idea
[14:08] <Gentoo64> :( sorry
[14:08] <Gentoo64> zetui: tbh im not sure with gnome 3
[14:08] <Gentoo64> local share apps i think
[14:09] <audionb> Gentoo64: it's fine i found it; now i can do « » ® © … and feel proud about it (even though you're probably not seeing those characters ^^)
[14:09] <Gentoo64> i saw the registered and copyriht
[14:09] <audionb> Gentoo64: basically it's a key, if you press it and then press twice on '<'; it will compose them and form «
[14:09] <Gentoo64> actually they come up as (R) and (c) lol
[14:09] <drdozer> I still can't get my system to boot from sda :(
[14:10] <Gentoo64> audionb: d you want it for messing about? or do you need it
[14:10] <llutz> petan|work: do you use virtual-domains or just the one your server is in?
[14:10] <harsh343> Gentoo64, sudo sh netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh -.sh
[14:10] <petan|work> no, I use only one domain, so I didn't set virtual
[14:10] <audionb> Gentoo64: ye i don't really need it :)
[14:10] <Gentoo64> harsh343: surely theres a ppa for it lol
[14:10] <llutz> petan|work: check "mydestination" in main.cf
[14:10] <audionb> just wanted to learn something
[14:10] <Gentoo64> audionb: yeah
[14:10] <petan|work> mydestination = server@tm-irc.org, tm-irc.org, localhost.localdomain, server, localhost
[14:11] <zetui> can't find Gentoo64
[14:11] <llutz> petan|work: "server.tm-irc.org" doesn't resolve to localhost(127.0.0.1)
[14:11] <zetui> where is the path ?
[14:11] <Gentoo64> zetui: hang on ill have a look
[14:11] <zetui> ok
[14:12] <diverdude> Hello. How do i add this to my ppa? https://launchpad.net/~jstrunk-math/+archive/ppa
[14:12] <harsh343> Gentoo64, sudo sh ./netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh
[14:12] <diverdude> im using ubuntu 10.10 server
[14:12] <llutz> petan|work: mydestination= server.tm-irc.org...., not "@"
[14:12] <harsh343> Gentoo64, means ?
[14:12] <khussein78> i found this errors in my syslog,  iuse ubuntu server 11.04
[14:12] <khussein78> http://pastebin.com/RvsyUWkm
[14:12] <fnewbie> is there anyway we can reset or recover the root password if its forgotten?
[14:12] <khussein78> can any one help in this
[14:13] <petan|work> llutz: server.tm-irc.org resolve to external ip
[14:13] <globo> Hello every buddy. I'm new to ubuntu  and I need some help with scp command. Can any body help me? thanks
[14:13] <Gentoo64> harsh343: try the ubuntu repos
[14:13] <petan|work> but it works
[14:13] <diverdude> anybody?
[14:13] <Gentoo64> harsh343: apparently it has 6.9 in there
[14:13] <petan|work> PING server.tm-irc.org (109.123.220.94) 56(84) bytes of data.
[14:13] <petan|work> and it ping back
[14:13] <progre55> diverdude: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jstrunk-math/ppa"
[14:13] <harsh343> Klojum, sudo sh ./netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh
[14:14] <sipior> fnewbie: one isn't set by default. if you have done, and then forgot it, simply set it again as you did before.
[14:14] <llutz> petan|work: you don't have set a MX-record for tm-irc.org?
[14:14] <harsh343> harsh@harsh-3000:~$ sudo sh ./netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh
[14:14] <harsh343> [sudo] password for harsh:
[14:14] <harsh343> sh: Can't open ./netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh
[14:14] <harsh343> Klojum, i ma trying this also
[14:14] <deej1976> harsh343: What does pwd return
[14:14] <petan|work> I think I did it, (I will check) but I think it should matter for internal mail
[14:14] <petan|work> I can't even send mail from localhost to localhost
[14:14] <anand> i need help with this http://pastebin.com/ywMTzmwk while installing lamp-server
[14:14] <petan|work> it shouldn't matter
[14:14] <harsh343> deej1976,   /home/harsh
[14:15] <petan|work> imho
[14:15] <llutz> petan|work: as i already suggested this morning, better ask at #postfix
[14:15] <deej1976> cd Downloads
[14:15] <petan|work> ok...
[14:15] <diverdude> progre55: thx. How can i then install netatalk 2.2.1 from that source instead of the normal netatalk in the normal repo?
[14:15] <deej1976> now tru the sudo command give before
[14:15] <progre55> diverdude: did you update? "sudo apt-get update"
[14:15] <deej1976> try*
[14:15] <llutz> petan|work: but it's definetly a postfix misconfig, not dovecot
[14:15] <anand> i need help with this http://pastebin.com/ywMTzmwk while installing lamp-server
[14:16] <harsh343> deej1976, harsh@harsh-3000:~$ sudo pwd
[14:16] <harsh343> /home/harsh
[14:16] <diverdude> progre55: yeah i did
[14:16] <deej1976> just pwd
[14:16] <iceroot> anand: you did what i told you about the ppa?
[14:16] <harsh343> deej1976, same
[14:16] <diverdude> progre55: but tab completion only shows netatalk and not netatalk 2.2.1
[14:16] <petan|work> llutz: ok I will need to identify to get there
[14:16] <anand> yes i restored it to original
[14:16] <deej1976> harsh343: now: cd Downloads ; ls
[14:17] <llutz> !register | petan|work register & identify
[14:17] <progre55> diverdude: try "apt-catch search netatalk"
[14:17] <iceroot> anand: and run "sudo apt-get update"?
[14:17] <anand> iceroot: yes i did
[14:17] <anand> iceroot: yes
[14:17] <progre55> diverdude: and see the version, repository, all the info about the package
[14:17] <iceroot> anand: paste of apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-worker
[14:17] <harsh343> deej1976, http://pastebin.com/8k2Hc3tt output
[14:18] <diverdude> progre55: that only gives me this: netatalk - AppleTalk user binaries
[14:18] <llutz> diverdude: apt-cache policy netatalk
[14:18] <progre55> diverdude: oops, my bad, "apt-catch show netatalk"
[14:18] <progre55> not search
[14:18] <llutz> progre55: cache not catch
[14:18] <deej1976> harsh343: chmod 755 netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh ; sudo ./netbeans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh
[14:18] <progre55> oh yeah xD
[14:18] <progre55> llutz: thanks :D
[14:19] <diverdude> progre55: ahhh it shows this:
[14:19] <diverdude> netatalk:
[14:19] <diverdude>   Installed: (none)
[14:19] <diverdude>   Candidate: 2.2.1.1-0utm5+maverick
[14:19] <progre55> diverdude: apt-cache show
[14:19] <saml> hey, i'm using gnome terminal.. is there keyboard shortcut to jump around parameters?   place cursor at the 3rd parameter... etc
[14:19] <diverdude>   Version table:
[14:19] <diverdude>      2.2.1.1-0utm5+maverick 0
[14:19] <FloodBot1> diverdude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <progre55> diverdude:  use pastebin or pastie.org
[14:19] <diverdude> progre55: ohh yes ok sorry
[14:20] <diverdude> progre55: but looks like its using 2.2.1 then tight?
[14:20] <harsh343> deej1976, installation on progress hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[14:20] <diverdude> right
[14:20] <harsh343> thank alots agian
[14:20] <progre55> diverdude: yep
[14:20] <harsh343> again*
[14:20] <progre55> diverdude: now just "sudo apt-get install netatalk"
[14:20] <Srbuntu> can someone tell me about pacakge popularity contest
[14:21] <anand> iceroot: here http://pastebin.com/nGtFZHZF
[14:21] <Srbuntu> does it automatic gather information
[14:21] <anand> iceroot: here http://pastebin.com/nGtFZHZF
[14:21] <Srbuntu> about my programs
[14:21] <diverdude> progre55: yeah ok ...i did that...how can i check the version of the just installed netatalk then...just to make sure?
[14:21] <Srbuntu> and what I install
[14:21] <progre55> diverdude: not sure how netatalk works, but it's usually -version or --version
[14:22] <DJones> Srbuntu: From http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ "The popularity contest project is an attempt to map the usage of Ubuntu packages. This site publishes the statistics gathered from report send by users of the popularity-contest package. This package sends the list of packages installed and the access time of relevant files to the server weekly. Every day the server anonymizes the results and publishes this survey. For more information, read the README and the F
[14:22] <diverdude> progre55: the packet manager cannot show me?
[14:22] <progre55> diverdude: it has already done, "apt-cache show netatalk"
[14:22] <zagibu> diverdude: sudo apt-cache show netatalk
[14:23] <diverdude> YES
[14:23] <diverdude> ITS WORKING
[14:23] <diverdude> YES YES YES
[14:23] <progre55> diverdude: whatever it shows you is installed
[14:23] <FloodBot1> diverdude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <iceroot> anand: apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-worker  you typed something else
[14:23] <Srbuntu> thank you
[14:23] <diverdude> i can browse my files on my ubuntu server from mac now :D
[14:24] <nemanja> I have problem with install ubuntu 10.04. Error say: "/usr/bin/mcoocke :input/output error "
[14:24] <anand> iceroot: i typed exactly what u asked
[14:24] <iceroot> anand: that is not the output of "apt-cache policy apache2-mpm-worker"
[14:25] <iceroot> anand: you typed "apt-cache policy" and in a new line "apache2-mpm-worker"
[14:26] <anand> iceroot: oh sorry  here anand@learningbox:~$ apt-cache policy apche2-mpm-worker W: Unable to locate package apche2-mpm-worker
[14:27] <iceroot> anand: apache2 not apche2
[14:27] <iceroot> anand: pleae use EXACTLY what i wrote
[14:27] <nemanja> Any help ?
[14:28] <malaphus> Hello friends!
[14:28] <deej1976> !ask | nemanja
[14:28] <malaphus> Anyone know why the 32-bit version is the recommended version?  Will I have problems with anything if I run the 64-bit version?
[14:28] <llutz> malaphus: iignore it, 64bit works fine if you have a 64bit capable machine
[14:28] <DJones> malaphus: I've been running for 64 bit version for 6 months with no problems
[14:29] <malaphus> No issues with flash or anything?
[14:29] <elz89> malaphus: yes tiny bit sometimes.
[14:29] <DJones> malaphus: None for me
[14:29] <progre55> malaphus: how much memory do you have
[14:29] <progre55> ?
[14:29] <allu2> Hello, i'm experiencing problems with softwarecenter, when i press to install package it goes gray and takes all CPU after few minuute it goes back to normal but it haven't install anything
[14:29] <malaphus> I don't watch videos or anything really (it's at work), but I do appreciate it when site's flash-based menus and such work (nvidia.com,e tc)
[14:29] <diverdude> How do i change the password of a specific user in ubuntu?
[14:29] <malaphus> progre55: 4GB
[14:29] <anand> iceroot: sorry. http://pastebin.com/WvFsWgK6
[14:30] <malaphus> diverdude: sudo passwd <username>
[14:30] <progre55> malaphus: then definitely use 64bit, it's worth it.. I havent had any probs so far
[14:30] <malaphus> diverdude: or just log in as the user and type 'passwd'
[14:30] <malaphus> Alright, thanks
[14:30] <DJones> malaphus: You could always create a live usb and test on a couple of websites
[14:30] <deej1976> diverdude: sudo passwwd userid
[14:30] <malaphus> DJones: yeah, the regular install CD is a liveCD right? (downloading now)
[14:30] <DJones> malaphus: Yes thats it
[14:30] <malaphus> cool beans
[14:31] <malaphus> im running 11.04 right now with classic gnome 2, but I figure I should upgrade to gnome 3
[14:31] <malaphus> Is it possible to totally remove Unity from the system using apt, or will it try to remove everything X-related?
[14:31] <DJones> !notounity
[14:31] <deej1976> !notunity | malaphus
[14:32] <malaphus> Aye, I'm familiar with using gnome 3 *instead* of unity, but is it possible to apt-get purge unity as well?
[14:33] <diverdude> hahaha this is awesome...finally i can browse my ubuntuserver from my mac
[14:33] <elz89> diverdude: ahh small thing, please small minds :-P
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> malaphus: try disabling the compiz unity plugin, but make sure you can re-enable it
[14:34] <diverdude> elz89: but i need codecs :(
[14:34] <elz89> !extras | diverdude
[14:34] <remalaka999> hfd
[14:35] <elz89> I think that is the right place to send you, maybe someone more with it could advise?
[14:35] <remalaka99_> gfd
[14:36] <remalaka999> bdf
[14:36] <v0lt> i got black screen after updating to linux kernel 2.6.35.30
[14:36] <deej1976> !ask | remalaka99_
[14:36] <v0lt> how can i solve this
[14:36] <Jordan_U> drdozer: How did you clone the system? Having two filesystems with the same UUID at the same time can cause problems with many things.
[14:37] <helloworld> Argh! Whenever I try to install virtual box guest additions I get the error message /tmp/vbox.0/Makefile.include.header:94: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.
[14:38] <deej1976> helloworld: have you installed build-essential
[14:39] <malaphus> One more question;  Is there an easy way to switch back to the Ambiance theme (dark window borders/controls) in Gnome 3 on 11.10?  That new light theme with the huge borders kind of annoys me
[14:39] <zarkindia24> Hello everyone
[14:39] <helloworld> yes I installed it before I ran the installation file of VBoxGuestAdditions
[14:39] <compdoc> helloworld, the guest is Ubuntu?
[14:40] <helloworld> compdoc: Yes Xubuntu 10.04
[14:40] <compdoc> Xubuntu
[14:40] <deej1976> helloworld: linux-headers-generic linux-libc-dev ?
[14:40] <v0lt> i got black screen after updating to linux kernel 2.6.35.30 how can i solve this
[14:41] <helloworld> deej1976: Should I try to install that package?
[14:41] <zagibu> v0lt: use paint :p
[14:41] <deej1976> helloworld: give them ago
[14:41] <v0lt> ?????????????
[14:41] <v0lt> i cant see anything
[14:42] <helloworld> deej1976: Alright. I'll give you an update soon
[14:42] <deej1976> v0lt: Can you change to a terminal ALT+F1
[14:42] <v0lt> im using safe mode will low graphics now
[14:42] <jsebean> hello all when I run apt-get i always get 1 not upgraded why is this? On ubuntu server.
[14:42] <v0lt> with+
[14:44] <jsebean> anyone online chat seems dead?
[14:45] <haylo_> jsebean it sounds like you have a broken ackage thats no tbeing upgraded
[14:45] <helloworld> deej1976: It worked for me. Thanks alot!
[14:45] <v0lt> no help as usual i'll end up removing ubuntu completely bye
[14:45] <jsebean> haylo_: know how to fix it im not sure what package it is
[14:46] <zagibu> there should be more output in your console
[14:46] <zagibu> also, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#How_to_fix_broken_packages
[14:46] <haylo_> jsebean i use the synaptic package manager to show me broken packages. there is a search filter in it
[14:47] <jsebean> haylo_: im limited to only terminal (ssh)
[14:47] <jsebean> haylo_: it's a vps running 10.04
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> jsebean: which one not upgraded?
[14:48] <Xanath> Hello all, Im trying to find a way to change the default workspace to 5
[14:48] <jsebean> MonkeyDust: I'm not aware of which one i'd like to find out
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> jsebean: type apt-get upgrade and see which is being held back, if any
[14:48] <haylo_> Xanath do you mean the fifth shell- you get by pressing cntrl alt 5
[14:49] <Xanath> No
[14:49] <jsebean> MonkeyDust: mountall
[14:49] <Xanath> I mean when i log in im on workspace 1
[14:49] <Xanath> out of 9 i set up
[14:49] <private_meta> yay... a web platform I got from the ubuntu repository is broken... I think I never once had a webplatform from a repository that worked fine
[14:50] <toor_> hi everyone, does anyone know how to change the key to move windows with unity ( I don't want alt key because I need it in blender)
[14:50] <Xanath> i can use the workspace switcher to move around easily enough but i want the default one to be 5 instead of 1
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> jsebean: maybe you can just ignore it
[14:50] <SinusPi> Greetings! Care to share if Ubuntu can be installed without booting to the installer..? I need to install it on a USB-connected external drive, preferrably without rebooting my desktop and risking ruining my internal drives (if I hit some very wrong option)...
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> SinusPi: install on an external usb... that is *very* slow
[14:51] <SinusPi> MonkeyDust: slow > none.
[14:52] <haylo_> jsebean upgrade and update everything the type : sudo aptitude -f   that should get you a list? dont hold me to this though
[14:52] <Xanath> toor_: Hi, just hit super+a open system settings -> keyboard , then open shortcuts tab
[14:53] <jsebean> haylo_: ok ill try
[14:53] <Xanath> toor_: in shortcuts tab u can go to the Nabigation panel and change the shortcuts to whatever you want
[14:53] <Xanath> toor_: *Navigation...
[14:54] <toor_> Xanath, I don't see anything that mention alt + left click
[14:55] <jsebean> haylo_ and MonkeyDust I fixed it by running sudo apt-get install mountall
[14:55] <Xanath> toor_: sorry my bad
[14:55] <jsebean> hello there how are you today>
[14:55] <Xanath> toor_: wrong pannel
[14:55] <Xanath> toor_: u need windows
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> jsebean: great
[14:56] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: It can be done via kvm/qemu but if you're only concerned about accidentily doing something wrong you're safer off just installing Ubuntu normally.
[14:57] <Xanath> toor_: I got your question wrong
[14:57] <Xanath> toor_: What you are looking for is not a unity option its a compiz shortcut
[14:58] <Xanath> toor_: super+a to open application window then open http://goo.gl/cEF1w | IRC info: http://goo.gl/Pgv9o | Pastes to http://goo.gl/ixcN9 | Release Notes: http://goo.gl/tuSzO | Download:  http://goo.gl/Ov56R | Oneiric/11.10 is out! | Please use the torrents! http://torre
[14:59] <Xanath> toor_: super+a to open application window then open compizconfig settings manager write move in the filter and then click on move window
[15:00] <Xanath> toor_: the option u are looking for is the first one alt+button1 to move window just change the shortcut
[15:01] <Xanath> Ok, ill try my question again when starting applications from the launcher(using the shortcut super+number) they open in workspace/desktop 1 i want to change that so they open in workspace/desktop 5...
[15:02] <ManaPirated> test
[15:02] <marcavis> How can I tell if I'm using usplash, or splashy, or something else to display a boot splash picture?
[15:03] <deej1976> !test
[15:03]  * RaTTuS|BIG Humps RichardBronosky
[15:03] <Jordan_U> marcavis: If you're using a recent version of Ubuntu then you're using plymouth.
[15:04] <marcavis> Jordan_U, ah, thanks - something, perhaps gnome3, changed it somehow to use debian branding
[15:04] <Jordan_U> !language | RaTTuS|BIG
[15:04] <alesan> hi! how do I get Firefox8?
[15:04] <henkye> "family-friendly"   whats that ? :-D
[15:04] <alesan> my ubuntu still has 7.0.1
[15:05] <_jesse_> alesan: wait, or download it from mozilla
[15:06] <alesan> ok thanks
[15:06] <alesan> oh another thing
[15:06] <alesan> how can I write a script that does something, then upon exit checks if there is any user logged in the system and, if not, halts the PC?
[15:07] <Tulitomaatti> maybe use the output of w or users, see if that is empty enough, and halt if so.
[15:08] <xivi32789> alesan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
[15:08] <usuario> aa
[15:08] <usuario> ola
[15:08] <usuario> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:08] <henkye> #test
[15:08] <Myrtti> usuario: stop it.
[15:09] <usuario> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:09] <alesan> Myrtti, wow what an attitude
[15:09] <alesan> are you a wannabe COP?
[15:10] <alesan> bah
[15:10] <haylo_> was ubuntu bought by some unknown party which is attempting to cause the company to self sabotage?
[15:11] <sipior> Myrtti: well, *I'm* glad you booted the internet vermin.
[15:11] <_jesse_> likewise
[15:11] <PolitikerNEU> Is anyone banning query spammers?
[15:11] <henkye> haylo_: looks like u have some trouble with ubuntu
[15:12] <Myrtti> PolitikerNEU: it would be easier if they were reported in #ubuntu-ops
[15:12] <haylo_> no i like ubuntu a lot henkye - i actually really want it to succeed
[15:12] <henkye> haylo_: well, this ranting dont help !
[15:12] <Myrtti> haylo_: do you have a Ubuntu support question or would you like to move the non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:12] <haylo_> i just have a funny way of showing it sorry henkye il stop
[15:13] <henkye> haylo_: btw, ubuntu is OS brand, company behind it is Canoncial ^^
[15:15] <marcavis> How odd, there's no unusual plymouth themes installed, yet somehow I'm using the "spacefun" theme
[15:15] <Myrtti> PolitikerNEU: forwarded the report on :-)
[15:16] <marcavis> (this, ended up as my boot splash somehow) svn.debianart.org/themes/spacefun/grub/grub-iso.png
[15:17] <Jayar> can someone help, i can't get wireless to work
[15:19] <SinusPi> Jordan_U: I wish I could install it "normally". I have a laptop that corrupted its Windows installation when hibernated - so now it won't even let me enter BIOS, not to mention boot from USB or CD, and permanently tries to unhibernate from a corrupt drive -_-
[15:19] <haylo_> Jayer some wireless cards are difficult to detect by default- i sometimes have to "switch" the wireless on and off to get linux systems to recognize it. But i am not an admin that is just my advice for trouble shooting
[15:19] <Jayar> well its listed in lspci
[15:19] <Jayar> but not in ifconfig
[15:20] <edbian> Jayar: what card is this?
[15:20] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: If you can't boot from USB at all how do you plan to use this USB drive after Ubuntu is installed?
[15:20] <Jayar> its a laptop, intel 10/100 pro
[15:20] <deej1976> Jayar: Some wireless cards still require firmware and ndiswrapper as well
[15:21] <SinusPi> Jordan_U: put it in the lappy "normally". It's the laptop's internal drive, now removed and USB-enclosed.
[15:21] <Jayar> yea i couldnt' install ndiswrapper fer some reason
[15:21] <Jayar> i'll keep lookin
[15:21] <Jayar> thnx tho
[15:21] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: And why can't you install Ubuntu to this drive normally using whatever computer you're planning to use to create it?
[15:22] <SinusPi> Jordan_U: because I don't quite trust my desktop not to accidentally write something to its internal drives. Also, I'd have to mess with its boot sequence, and it's my work machine which I'd rather not break now.
[15:23] <Jayar> is there a device manager type thing in ubuntu?
[15:24] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: Use Ubuntu 11.10, use automatic partitioning. Ubuntu's installer won't touch the internal drive if you tell it to install to the external.
[15:24] <haylo_> Jayar ubuntu software center can install and dpkg
[15:25] <Jayar> cool thnx
[15:25] <cba123> For some reason, I can't open my /home/cba123 directory.  I can see other folders, including my Desktop.  This stays after a reboot, any ideas on how I can fix this?
[15:26] <haylo_> Jayar i think install synaptic package manager if you need a gui for more complicated package assesment
[15:26] <cba123> Just a continuation, nautilus on /home/cba123 just says "Loading..." and it sits there.
[15:27] <henkye> cba123: would be nice to run nautilus from terminal and see if there are errors
[15:27] <imbezol> cba123: what are your mountpoints? do you have a different one for /home, or some kind of network filesystem mounted in your homedir?
[15:28] <imbezol> cba123: possibly a samba directory or something?
[15:28] <cba123> henkye, I did, and no errors came up.
[15:28] <ram111> hi. i just updated to 11.10. now i am not able to log in as my old user. i created new user and logged in and it works. any poiters to fix this ?
[15:29] <henkye> cba123: so then u tried cd to that directory in terminal too ?
[15:29] <cba123> imbezol, I do have an NFS share mounted to it, now that you mention it.  Just unmounted it, but I don't have it set to mount at boot.
[15:29] <imbezol> cba123: it's probably trying to assess that mountpoint
[15:29] <sileni> hi
[15:29] <sileni> hi everyone
[15:30] <bumblebeebat> ram111: I had similar problems, Iet me look for a link for you
[15:30] <shumpi> hello and ubuntu to all! I have a problem connecting to my network printer...
[15:31] <cba123> imbezol, Well, if I do nautilus /home/cba123/foo/ it works fine, as does cd /home/cba123/foo/ in a terminal.
[15:31] <ram111> bumblebeebat: ok tks
[15:31] <kamiccolo> shumpi, what kind of router, printer and ubuntu version?
[15:31] <sileni> guys in /etc/passwd what field can i use to identify human users?
[15:32] <bumblebeebat> ram111, Do you have a display working
[15:32] <cba123> henkye, Terminal opens in /home/cba123, I can move to other folders, but if I do "ls" or anything in the root /home/cba123 it just sits there.
[15:32] <zagibu> sileni: what are you trying to do?
[15:33] <shumpi> ubuntu 10.04 LTS, Brother HL 2170W and D-Link N150 (dir 600)
[15:33] <ram111> bumblebeebat: yeah. my display is working with  a new login i created. but i am not able to activate my ATI driver. is this related ?
[15:33] <henkye> cba123: maybe some permissions issue ?  try it as a root ?
[15:33] <sileni> zagibu: writing code to see if permissionis are set properly for home directories of users
[15:33] <roter1337> Anyone know how to convert a gpt partition stlye disk to mbr without losing data?
[15:34] <roter1337> anyone?
[15:34] <shumpi> thanks for looking at it, kamiccolo.
[15:35] <bumblebeebat> ram111, my problems were related to my nvidia driver. I think there were some changes with lightdm
[15:35] <bumblebeebat> ram111, you could try this:http://mylinuxramblings.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/mythbuntu-11-04-to-11-10-upgrade-issues/
[15:35] <ram111> bumblebeebat: how did u solve it ?
[15:35] <ram111> bumblebeebat: ok will check that out
[15:36] <ram111> bumblebeebat: i noticed during the update that the flgrx drivers didnt compile into module. may be that is the issue
[15:36] <cba123> henkye, Same thing, and if I go to /home in a root terminal ("sudo su" then "nautilus" and navigate to /home), my permissions seem ok.  cba123 has read/write.
[15:36] <shumpi> I get printer ´HL-2170W´:none as an error message.
[15:36] <CharlieSu> Anyone know of a linux tool that will watch a directory for new files and then allow you to run a custom script against them.
[15:37] <cba123> henkye, imbezol, I tried thunar as well, and same issue.
[15:37] <imbezol> cba123: if you're having trouble with a terminal and ls, don't bother with the guis
[15:37] <asher^> hi all, i have a ubuntu install (server, no gui). how do i install extra fonts on it?
[15:37] <imbezol> cba123: you need to figure out why it's timing out trying to read that filesystem
[15:38] <imbezol> cba123: post your mountpoints on a pastebin site
[15:38] <kamiccolo> shumpi, what if iptables are blocking that ipp connection?
[15:38] <shumpi> you gotta lower your level a bit:) how do i know if that is the case?
[15:39] <theishi> I am trying to get my screen saver to work and I am getting an error saying xlib extension GLX is missing. What I am reading on the internet is suggesting my graphics card is not properly set up, but I can watch local and youtube videos fine, so I am not certain that is it. Can someone help me trouble shoot this?
[15:40] <kamiccolo> shumpi, have You checked this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu  ? :)
[15:41] <cba123> imbezol, List it with "df" in terminal, or post my fstab?
[15:41] <private_meta> ah yeah... launchpad... on our server here I can't properly install launchpad packages as our firewall blocks outgoing connections to the key server any idea how to circumvent that, like proxies or different port?
[15:41] <ram111> bumblebeebat: my problem is not black screen. i am seeing lightdm, but when i try to login to my old account it goes to text mode and restarts light dm
[15:41] <zagibu> GLX are GL extensions, which means OpenGL stuff, not sure what youtube has to do with it
[15:42] <shumpi> yes, thx, thats the guide I was following
[15:43] <Lostmonk> hi
[15:43] <imbezol> cba123: both maybe.. and output of "mount"
[15:43] <ram111> I am not able to activate ATI driver in my updated ubuntu 11.10. log here http://paste.ubuntu.com/733185/ any help ?
[15:43] <Lostmonk> does anyone have an ipod touch working on 11.10?
[15:43] <shumpi> kamiccolo, I'll run through it again, see if i missed soething:)
[15:43] <SinusPi> Jordan_U: isn't there a DOS "sys" equivalent in Ubuntu, enough to make a drive bootable with the simplest shell on it..?
[15:44] <imbezol> cba123: do those commands run cleanly or do they hang too?
[15:44] <zagibu> you can boot into a shell by changing grub's init parameter to init=/bin/bash
[15:45] <cba123> imbezol, Mount ran fine, df hangs, as does ls in my /home/cba123
[15:45] <ram111> I am not able to activate ATI driver in my updated ubuntu 11.10. log here http://paste.ubuntu.com/733185/ any help ?
[15:45] <theishi> zagibu: i thought maybe it might suggest the graphics were installed correctly... kinda new at this
[15:45] <imbezol> cba123: yah.. your nfs mount is causing problems
[15:45] <imbezol> cba123: you need to get it unmounted
[15:46] <zagibu> theishi: for openGL to work, you might need another driver...a proprietary one, maybe
[15:47] <theishi> ok any good guides or walkthroughs on the subject zagibu ?
[15:47] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: No.
[15:47] <cba123> imbezol, I've noticed.  I forgot I mounted an extra nfs drive recently, and had to hot-unplug it from the remote server.  I can't unmount it, it just hangs on that command.  I did /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop, but didn't work.
[15:47] <zagibu> ram111: does that help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859180 ?
[15:47] <imbezol> cba123: it may have a really long timeout. unless you have something critical going on you'll probably just want to reboot
[15:48] <zagibu> theishi: try this first: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers
[15:48] <deej1976> cba123: sudo umount -f /path/to/mount
[15:48] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: If you don't need a full install though you can create a LiveUSB with Startup Disk Creator.
[15:48] <dirtycookie> hello people, i have installed the latest version of xubuntu onto my eeePC successfully, but i have a little problem. I have a 4gb onboard flash that is being mounted not by the fstab file, i changed that by adding an entry like the link here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733191/
[15:48] <dirtycookie> I restarted the system and then i noticed that it mounted the fs but didnt link it to the desktop
[15:48] <imbezol> cba123: sometimes you can also get things hooked back up, mount it, and then unmount it cleanly
[15:48] <imbezol> cba123: but nfs can be really stubborn
[15:48] <dirtycookie> any ideas??
[15:48] <ranzi> moin
[15:48] <SinusPi> Jordan_U: ... but booting from USB on that damn laptop is out of the question, until I somehow force it to forget it was hibernated >_<
[15:49] <shumpi> cammicolo - i checked "show printers shared by other systems" and it worked! Thanks loads!
[15:49] <ranzi> can someone help me? i want to install the activity log manager
[15:49] <shumpi> kammicolo - i checked "show printers shared by other systems" and it worked! Thanks loads!
[15:50] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: USB Startup Disk Creator disks will work just the same as internal drives.
[15:50] <bekks> Jordan_U: Startup Disk Creator does much more than just making a device bootable.
[15:50] <SinusPi> Jordan_U: but they're on a USB pendrive, right?
[15:51] <Jordan_U> bekks: I know that.
[15:51] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: They don't need to be.
[15:51] <haylo_> SinusPi can you get take the batteries out and unplug it etc and then try that live usb? THey call it startup disk creator but it makes usb drives
[15:51] <dr_willis> you can dd the 11.10 isos also. :-)
[15:52] <ranzi> How can i install the log manager?
[15:52] <dr_willis> ranzi:  what log manager
[15:52] <ranzi> the activity log manager..i'm a totally beginner
[15:53] <ranzi> i heard that its good
[15:53] <dirtycookie> hello people, i have installed the latest version of xubuntu onto my eeePC successfully, but i have a little problem. I have a 4gb onboard flash that is being mounted not by the fstab file, i changed that by adding an entry like the link here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733191/I restarted the system and then i noticed that it mounted the fs but didnt link it to the desktop
[15:53] <SinusPi> haylo_: tried all that. The only thing the lap wants to boot from, is its HDD. Under DOS, I'd just put the HDD in a USB enclosure, move it to another machine, SYS it, and move it back into the laptop. It'd probably cry that the drive isn't hibernated anymore, but should run. Unfortunately, I have no DOS handy, and it's NTFS anyway...
[15:53] <haylo_> htop shows me a list of all system activity: sudo apt-get install htop
[15:53] <dr_willis> no idea what you are refering to ranzi and im and old timer
[15:54] <Jordan_U> SinusPi: bekks: Any drive which can boot as a USB drive can also be booted as an internal drive (assuming it's an enclosure that allows you to move the drive in such a way).
[15:54] <ranzi> i've installed the newest version. now i want to install the package of the log manager. or other question..how can i disable the lenses in this version?
[15:54] <deej1976> ranzi: Do you mean zeitgeist?
[15:54] <blink> upgarded from 11.04 to 11.10 and lost X comletely when I reinstalled gnome/removed unity/lightdm... need to configure the system to start gdm again (dpkg-reconfigure something?)
[15:54] <ranzi> yes
[15:55] <SinusPi> Jordan_U: it's a regular 2.5" drive, which I moved out of the lap into a USB enclosure. No idea what you mean by booting a USB drive as an internal drive...
[15:55] <bekks> Jordan_U: BAsically there is no difference between external and internal drives, besides the connector.
[15:55] <Jordan_U> bekks: That was my point.
[15:56] <Pruitt> Hey!  Obvious statement; I need help
[15:56] <bekks> Jordan_U: But you cannot use a usb stick as an internal drive in most cases ;)
[15:56] <ranzi> and there i want to disable the "lenses" for file folder
[15:56] <bekks> Pruitt: Then just ask please.
[15:56] <ranzi> or install the manager to controll the record of my data
[15:57] <deej1976> ranzi: try gnome-activity-journal
[15:57] <davidcalle> ranzi, sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-files
[15:57] <blink> orca-autostart maybe? I'm not a noob, just need direction on what's changed (beyond having read the changelog)
[15:57] <Pruitt> I just installed ubuntu 11.04 and now when I full screen my video in Movie Player, or VLC, I reboot back to login screen
[15:57] <haylo_> ranzi htop will show you your system processes maybe that will help you
[15:57] <aeiou> how can I check if a port is open on a remote server? (FTP port)
[15:57] <Pruitt> My computer tech level isn't too high, so go easy
[15:57] <deej1976> aeiou nmap remote_server -p 21
[15:57] <SinusPi> All right, simplifying...  My goal: make the HDD bootable.  Basis: HDD is now connected via USB to a Windows machine, which should not be rebooted/destabilized.  I thought I could put Ubuntu on the HDD, by writing an ISO to the disk, I don't know, and moving it back into the lappy.  Any other ideas..?
[15:58] <aeiou> thanks
[15:58] <aeiou> deej1976, state: filtered means firewall is blocking?
[15:58] <deej1976> aeiou: yes
[15:58] <haylo_> SinusPi the hdd is bootable when connected to a usb post when you change the bios options to boot from usb
[15:58] <zagibu> SinusPI: that won't work
[15:59] <blink> unable to connect to system bus
[15:59] <SinusPi> haylo_: I can't enter BIOS on the lappy; it's stuck in the "unhibernate only" mode some laptops now have.
[15:59] <dr_willis> SinusPi:  you could dd the iso to the hd. but not sure how you would install from that to the.hd. make several partions perhaps
[15:59] <blink> waiting for network configuration  (then again, up to 60 more seconds), eth0 doesn't come up
[15:59] <zagibu> SinusPi: if you want a bootable HD, you have to put a bootloader on the HD
[16:00] <bekks> SinusPi: Never heard of "unhibernate" until now.
[16:00] <ranzi> sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-files -> is this only for the files and file folder lens?
[16:00] <dr_willis> bekks:  me either
[16:00] <ranzi> or is this for all 4 lenses?
[16:00] <davidcalle> ranzi, only for the files one.
[16:00] <theishi> zagibu: I have two graphics cards (both are onboard as this is a laptop), one is an intel and the other NVidia. According to the information in the link they both have their drivers correctly installed, and the NVidia is supposably in use. The problem may have to do with the fact that I am currently using a Windows Manager.
[16:00] <ranzi> i'll try it
[16:00] <deej1976> SinusPi: Are there any other option during boot, like F10/F12 for a boot menu?
[16:01] <SinusPi> bekks: some laptops have it for faster startup. If you hibernate from Windows, booting back up has NO option to enter BIOS nor to change boot devices.
[16:01] <SinusPi> deej1976: ^
[16:01] <bekks> SinusPi: Thats pretty normal and "not new" :)
[16:01] <zagibu> theishi: what? a Windows Manager on Linux? are you crazy? <- just kidding
[16:01] <bekks> SinusPi: Just power it off, and start it. Then enter the BIOS.
[16:01] <blink> ok, simple question, how do I change my window manager from lightdm to gdm. that's all I'd like to do.
[16:01] <theishi> zagibu: NotIon, is the one I am using
[16:02] <Pruitt> Did I miss the answer, or is the answer still being looked for?
[16:02] <SinusPi> bekks: I don't think you understand. There's NO option to enter the BIOS now that it was hibernated.
[16:02] <deej1976> blink: sudo apt-get install gdm
[16:02] <blink> it's already installed
[16:02] <dr_willis> blink:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[16:02] <blink> i installed gnome, then ran dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[16:02] <bekks> SinusPi: Then shut it down completely, without hibernating, and start it again.
[16:02] <blink> and it had no effect, no prompts, nothing.
[16:02] <SinusPi> ...
[16:03] <SinusPi> bekks: please, I'm a bit more tech-savvy than you think I am. ;P
[16:03] <ranzi> so the lens is still there
[16:03] <dr_willis> blink:  thats how ive done it dozens of times
[16:03] <zagibu> theishi: never heard of it
[16:03] <blink>  and /var/log/messages is empty
[16:03] <davidcalle> ranzi, logout login =)
[16:03] <SinusPi> bekks: the system died; on startup it now has a tiny little "missing operating system" problem.
[16:03] <theishi> zagibu: it isn't too well know, it is based on Ion3
[16:03] <blink> dr_willis: this is post upgrade. everything in this POS is broken
[16:03] <ranzi> oh ok^^ sry
[16:03] <blink> from network to dbus, to xorg
[16:03] <odyy> I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on pc for a looooong time, now I'm trying to open my pc and it display the following error messages>> mount:mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/blablabla on /root failed :invalid argument    mount:mounting /dev on /root/dev failed:No such file or directory  mount:mounting /sys on /root/sys failed:No such file or directory    mount:mounting /proc on /root/proc failed:No such file or directory   Target filesystem does
[16:03] <bekks> SinusPi: Maybe you can try to reset it.
[16:03] <dr_willis> blink:  i always clean install..
[16:04] <SinusPi> bekks: BUT, some BIOS setting seems to be adamant to try to unhibernate and not allow any other boot.
[16:04] <zagibu> theishi: what happens if you type glxgears in console?
[16:04] <odyy> and the prompt becomes  (initramfs)
[16:04] <SinusPi> bekks: only possible by shorting the battery on the mainboard. Not gonna do that.
[16:04] <odyy> anybody help me, please?
[16:04] <theishi> the usual error i mentioned before plus this one: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[16:04] <Jan\> hi, i need to grab the first line of each files in a directory and add them to the top of the same file that was greped . any ideas how ?
[16:05] <zagibu> SinusPi: I'm not sure, but I don't think the Bios  has control of hibernation
[16:05] <SinusPi> bekks: there's literally NO option, NO (known) key combination that would work on the POST screens now. It goes straight to booting from the disk.
[16:05] <bekks> SinusPi: Thats why I suggested to reset it. ;)
[16:05] <dr_willis> perhaps #hardware may know
[16:06] <SinusPi> bekks: Any ideas how to do that, other than shorting the batt?
[16:06] <Pruitt> No one?  Bueller?
[16:06] <bekks> shorting the battery might kill the whole thing ;)
[16:06] <kamiccolo> shumpi, hoorray!! :)
[16:06] <ranzi> so
[16:06] <bekks> SinusPi: Did you take a look at the manufacturer's site?
[16:07] <odyy> help, please
[16:07] <SinusPi> bekks: I kinda know that ;P  Other ideas involve using some Fn+ESC key combo with a CD inserted and a BIOS image put on it - but no go.
[16:07] <shumpi> kamiccolo, seriously awesome:)
[16:07] <ranzi> where's the guy, who give me the advice? with the lens
[16:07] <davidcalle> ranzi, is it working ?
[16:07] <ranzi> ah you . man thank you
[16:07] <ranzi> it worked
[16:07] <odyy> I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on pc for a looooong time, now I'm trying to open my pc and it display the following error messages>> mount:mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/blablabla on /root failed :invalid argument    mount:mounting /dev on /root/dev failed:No such file or directory  mount:mounting /sys on /root/sys failed:No such file or directory    mount:mounting /proc on /root/proc failed:No such file or directory   Target filesystem does
[16:07] <davidcalle> ranzi, cool :)
[16:07] <odyy> and the prompt becomes  (initramfs)
[16:07] <SinusPi> but, it's gone far off Ubuntu, not gonna drag this offtopic thing anymore. Moving to other channels, if I find any suitable.
[16:08] <deej1976> bekks: What make is the laptop ?
[16:08] <zagibu> Pruitt: you might want to look at the output of dmesg after the forced logout
[16:08] <theishi> zagibu: did you see my reply... i forgot to mention your name
[16:08] <ranzi> i searched hundred of sites and so.... and this little command^^
[16:08] <bekks> deej1976: I have no clue - SinusPi has that problem :)
[16:08] <zagibu> theishi: then it is certain that opengl is not working for you
[16:08] <nelson8874> How do i  open an external disk as root (using xubuntu)?
[16:08] <Pruitt> I don't know what that means
[16:08] <SinusPi> deej1976: ASUS TravelMate.
[16:09] <odyy> I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on pc for a looooong time, now I'm trying to open my pc and it display the following error messages>> mount:mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/blablabla on /root failed :invalid argument    mount:mounting /dev on /root/dev failed:No such file or directory  mount:mounting /sys on /root/sys failed:No such file or directory    mount:mounting /proc on /root/proc failed:No such file or directory   Target filesystem does
[16:09] <odyy> ?????
[16:09] <ranzi> the first time i followed the instructions from one website...the dash board crashed :D
[16:09] <deej1976> SinusPi: Sorry
[16:09] <ranzi> so, can i add lenses?
[16:09] <theishi> zagibu: well I know that.... but is it possible the drivers are set up correctly, but opengl isn't?
[16:09] <blink> dr_willis: I don't have that option, but considering it now, I think I'd clean install debian, never had problems like this there
[16:10] <Pruitt> How about a revert to an older version?  Can I do that or is it like Windows in that it can't go back without a wipe and reinstall?
[16:10] <nelson8874> How do i  open an external disk as root (using xubuntu 11.10)?
[16:10] <blink> like this takes 120 seconds to time out: modem-manager[1106]: Could not get the system bus. Make sure the message bus daemon is running! Message: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[16:10] <deej1976> bekks: Sorry
[16:10] <zagibu> theishi: no, opengl is included in the drivers...but there might be problems with X and window managers, don't know too much about it, though
[16:10] <blink> and when eth0 comes up, it's unbound to any address and unconfigured, bring it down, and back up, suddenly the DHCP lease is there
[16:10] <bekks> Pruitt: Revert what to an older version?
[16:11] <zagibu> theishi: can you find out which is your active video device?
[16:11] <Pruitt> ubuntu 11.04 back to 10.10
[16:11] <zrtyye> is it possible to see the bios version from ubuntu ?
[16:11] <theishi> zagibu: i am currently using two screens, I think they both are
[16:11] <bekks> Pruitt: Just like you cannot revert windows 2003 back to windows 2000, you have to have a backup.
[16:11] <blink> so I guess I'll ask one more time before I abandon this distro. How can I get gdm to start (upstart, whatever). don't say apt-get install or dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[16:11] <nelson8874> How do i  open an external disk as root (using xubuntu)?
[16:11] <zagibu> theishi: I don't think you can use both at the same time...
[16:12] <CJKay> 'Sup
[16:12] <ranzi> 2nd question. can i add more lenses?
[16:12] <bjrohan> Hello everyone.  I have a USB drive connected to my desktop that is mounted as /media/BACKUP I would like to change the permissions of this HD so that I may access it via Samba. I have tried chmod 777 BACKUP to no avail, I have also tried changing permissions via GKSU Nautilus, and still, nothing. How can I change the permissions of this so that I can access is using SAMBA on my laptop?
[16:12] <theishi> zagibu: can you give me the command to determine which one is active?
[16:12] <Pruitt> Well crap.
[16:12] <Pruitt> Thanks anyway
[16:13] <CJKay> I did this, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde, as suggested yesterday by someone, and it worked pretty well. I have a blank Ubuntu install with no GUI installed whatsoever, but the problem I now have is that I can't boot if the splash screen in GRUB is enabled
[16:13] <CJKay> I've tried updating Plymouth to no effect
[16:13] <odyy> dear people, anybody would help me , please??
[16:13] <davidcalle> ranzi, sure. There are no others default lenses, but you can have a look at this list http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[16:13] <zagibu> theishi: I would, if I knew it
[16:14] <CJKay> It just freezes on the very first boot splash after GRUB if I don't remove 'quiet splash vt.handoff=7'
[16:14] <zagibu> theishi: maybe you can disable the intel one in the bios
[16:14] <zrtyye> is it possible to see the bios version from ubuntu ?
[16:14] <nelson8874> please someone. I think that this is very simple but i couldn't find the answers by searching on google. --How do i  open an external disk as root (using xubuntu)?
[16:14] <zrtyye> access to bios
[16:14] <davidcalle> ranzi, sadly, it's not up to date and most of the lenses of the list are only for the previous version of Unity. The books one still works.
[16:14] <sceo> I have a clean 11.10 install using Unity 2D (seems there's a bug with my Intel card, so 2D for the time being). To look at any of the indicator icons in the upper right (date, log out, network-applet, etc) I need to click AND HOLD and then release on the item I want. Is there a way to get it so that a single click will open it and keep it open? Google hath failed me so far.
[16:14] <willmc59> Hello everyone.
[16:14] <theishi> sure.... you can do that from the bios?
[16:15] <ranzi> ah ok. big thanks. i've a look. with the version i've heard
[16:15] <odyy> if no one would help, can you tell me where t find help??
[16:15] <odyy> if no one would help, can you tell me where t find help??
[16:15] <theishi> i will reboot and take a look zagibu
[16:15] <zagibu> theishi: wait
[16:15] <bekks> !patience | Odyy
[16:15] <theishi> zagibu: ok
[16:15] <zagibu> theishi: maybe you can find out in the Xorg logs, which device is used
[16:15] <bjrohan> Can anyone help me with changing permissions on a USB drive?
[16:15] <willmc59> Does anyone know how to connect a NAS drive to ubuntu?
[16:15] <simpleirc564> o
[16:15] <simpleirc564> hi
[16:15] <bekks> willmc59: Just mount the presented share.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !ask | odyy
[16:16] <nelson8874> How do i  open an external disk as root (using xubuntu)?
[16:16] <CJKay> bjrohan: Change the permissions of the on accessing the drive or the files on it?
[16:16] <bekks> nelson8874: You can mount it as root manually, e.g.
[16:16] <willmc59> Do I do that in the netword..
[16:16] <odyy> Blueskaj I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on pc for a looooong time, now I'm trying to open my pc and it display the following error messages>> mount:mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/blablabla on /root failed :invalid argument    mount:mounting /dev on /root/dev failed:No such file or directory  mount:mounting /sys on /root/sys failed:No such file or directory    mount:mounting /proc on /root/proc failed:No such file or directory   Target filesy
[16:16] <CJKay> nelson8874: How do you 'open' it..?
[16:16] <bekks> willmc59: What do you mean by "netword"?
[16:16] <blizzow> I've been having trouble with btrfs on my oneiric install.  Per someone's recommendation in #btrfs, I was going to try installing an updated kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc1-oneiric/    Is there a particular order I should install the .debs in, and is there anything else I should do to prep the system before rebooting to try the rc kernel?
[16:16] <blink> ok, so I removed gdm and installed lightdm, starts , nvidia driver loads but no greeting, no login window
[16:16] <bjrohan> CJKay both. I have a USB drive attached to a desktop I wish to be able to access via SAMBA on my laptop
[16:17] <CJKay> odyy: Try `sudo cp -R /root /dev/root`
[16:17] <bekks> bjrohan: Then create a samba share on the desktop and mount it on your laptop.
[16:17] <blink> tty7 is just two screens, blank/black. nothing.
[16:17] <nelson8874> CJKay: double click and then i just want to delete a folder, but i can't...
[16:17] <willmc59> Accessing the drive on the netword..
[16:17] <CJKay> nelson8874: `gksudo nautilus`
[16:17] <alex88> hi guys, i know there is a file number limit inside a folder, is there a folder limit too?
[16:17] <CJKay> bjrohan: What filesystem is the USB drive?
[16:17] <bekks> CJKay: What is the sence of copying native files to a device node?
[16:18] <bjrohan> CJKay NTFS
[16:18] <CJKay> alex88: Depends on what filesystem are you using
[16:18] <CJKay> bekks: Because sometimes that's all it needs
[16:18] <zagibu> theishi: try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the intel or nvidia device
[16:18] <imbezol> alex88: if you're running into those limits you're probably doing something wrong
[16:18] <ranzi> looks interesting, the lenses
[16:18] <bekks> CJKay: I doubt that it actually works :D
[16:18] <b0ot> How would I set something up so I could share a folder in ubuntu (ran in virtualbox) with my windows machine?
[16:19] <odyy> CJKay /bin/sh: sudo: not found
[16:19] <ranzi> thanks david. have a nice day. im out
[16:19] <zagibu> theishi: you can paste the Xorg log somewhere, I will take a look at it
[16:19] <willmc59> I misstyped..I mean network..
[16:19] <CJKay> bjrohan: In that case I'm not sure. Try doing a search for NTFS-3G permission management
[16:19] <alex88> imbezol: need to store thousand of images inside folders
[16:19] <bekks> b0ot: Thats not an ubuntu problem - but a problem of "shared folders" as described very well in the documentation of virtualbox to be found at www.virtualbox.org
[16:19] <alex88> CJKay: i'm using glusterfs as shared fs
[16:20] <imbezol> alex88: then they should be divided into subfolders based on some sort of indexing method
[16:20] <blink> screen resolution is broken now. it keeps getting better.
[16:20] <imbezol> alex88: putting everything in one folder is horrible for performance
[16:20] <CJKay> alex88: 2^64 folders I think
[16:20] <shumpi> exit
[16:20] <nelson8874> CJKay: it worked! thank you. But i want to learn. i want to know what that "did". Nautilus is the file manager, right? What does gksudo does?
[16:20] <shumpi> quit
[16:20] <shumpi> \quit
[16:20] <alex88> CJKay: kk i'll search more
[16:20] <shumpi> oh, how do you do this...
[16:20] <bjrohan> CJKay the files system of the USB drive is NTFS. The/media directory has rwxrwxrwx for its permissions
[16:20] <CJKay> alex88: Overall that is
[16:20] <thiebaude> !gksudo
[16:20] <CJKay> I think
[16:21] <alex88> imbezol: it's just storage, we won't need to search into, just go to a folder directly
[16:21] <theishi> zagibu: does this tell you anything   16.273] (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (doublescan mode not supported)
[16:21] <CJKay> bjrohan: What is it you are prevented from doing?
[16:21] <imbezol> alex88: you may not be searching it yourself, but the kernel needs to keep track of the directory contents to work on it
[16:21] <BluesKaj> !gksudo | nelson8874
[16:22] <theishi> zagibu: i can't find anything about nvideo so it seems pretty obvious which one is being used
[16:22] <alex88> imbezol: so maybe i'll create a folder per month and then put content into it
[16:22] <imbezol> alex88: just as a very simple example, if your files contain only letters in the names, you could have letters a through z, then inside those a through z, and in those your files
[16:22] <imbezol> alex88: yeah.. lots of ways to divide it based on what you're doing and how many files
[16:22] <buffyg> I've got an amusing problem with which I could use some help: my keyboard generates extraneous keypress events for the ctrl modifier keys. I've looked at xev output to confirm this. I'm using a Microsoft wireless keyboard with a US layout. I've check the Universal Access setting and made sure that my keyboard mapping is as expected. setxkbmap doesn't fix the problem.
[16:23] <theishi> zagibu: maybe i should just uninstall it...
[16:23] <bjrohan> CJKay I am prevented from changing the permission of the USB drive. I have done sudo chmod 777 BACKUP, and the permissions for the BACKUP usb drive are still RWX------
[16:23] <CJKay> nelson8874: gksudo runs GUI applications as root
[16:23] <alex88> imbezol: true, well i'll check for a better solution
[16:23] <CJKay> It's a GUI frontend for sudo
[16:24] <zagibu> theishi: yeah, you can try to disable it in bios now
[16:24] <buffyg> I've also run debsums, and it doesn't look like the keyboard maps have become corrupted. I'm wondering if my problem might be interference with the wireless. I haven't yet tried using another USB keyboard.
[16:24] <nelson8874> CJKay: OK. So i use gksudo and the name of any aplication... get it Thank you
[16:24] <CJKay> bjrohan: Try `sudo chown <username> BACKUP && sudo chmod -r 777 *`
[16:24] <odyy> CJKay I tried this cp -R /root /dev/root  and results in nothing
[16:24] <CJKay> nelson8874: Yep, no problem
[16:24] <CJKay> odyy: Can you paste the error to pastebin so I don't lose it with the ever-scrolling IRC page?
[16:25] <odyy> I can't, the pc don't start the system it displays this error while booting, so I'm writing it in another pc now
[16:26] <odyy> CJKay
[16:26] <buffyg> The problem is sporadic, and I haven't seen anything fix it consistently, so I'm leaning toward an interference problem.
[16:26] <ram111> after upgrade to 11.10 i am not able to log into my old account. creating a new account works. how to fix this ?
[16:26] <CJKay> odyy: Well I'm not sure how I can help if I don't know the error heh
[16:26] <bekks> odyy: Then write the error down. :)
[16:26] <charged> any mailserver easy to setup on ubuntu, please?
[16:26] <CJKay> ram111: "I can't log into the account" is a little bit too broad
[16:26] <bjrohan> CJKAY what directory should I be in to do this? when I did it in /media where BACKUP is, I got the error cannot access 777: no such file or directory, changing permission of cdrom: operation not permitted
[16:27] <b0ot> What's the best way to clone my drive
[16:27] <bekks> charged: There is none - even not on non-ubuntu-
[16:27] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: clonezilla?
[16:27] <b0ot> I have a harddrive I want an exact copy of to experiment with
[16:27] <charged> bekks: :( ok
[16:27] <b0ot> without messing it up
[16:27] <odyy> may i take a picture for the screen and show it to you, CJKay ?
[16:27] <ram111> CJKay: well i get the lightdm login screen. when I enter my password. it just brings back to the login screen afer a flash of the screen ? will the errors be logged anywhere ?
[16:28] <deej1976> b0ot: are the two drives identical?
[16:28] <b0ot> how likely will a dd from a 160 gig drive to a 120 gig drive work... sif my 160 gig drive is using less than 120 gig
[16:28] <imbezol> ram111: did you have a root password set?
[16:28] <theishi> zagibu: cool thanks
[16:28] <ram111> CJKay: nope. i use my login and then sudo from there
[16:28] <b0ot> deej1976, no... they are both ssd's 160 gig and 120 gig
[16:29] <urlin2u> b0ot, you might consider cloning it with clonezilla.
[16:29] <blink> last shot: anybody know why lightdm doesn't have a greeter? black windows don't inspire great confidence
[16:29] <ram111> CJKay: lightdm seems to be new . i am guessing some permission issues to be fixed with my old account which was tied to the older display manager ?
[16:29] <bjrohan> CJKAY even though I received that error message, ls -l shows that my username is the owner of BACKUP
[16:29] <deej1976> b0ot: That puts dd out then
[16:29] <CJKay> bjrohan: Woops heh. `cd /media && sudo chown -R <username> BACKUP && sudo chmod -R 777  BACKUP`
[16:29] <ram111> imbezol: i dont have root password set
[16:29] <urlin2u> b0ot, you ned equal partiions in clonezilla though.
[16:29] <CJKay> bjrohan: Then check permissions
[16:29] <ram111> imbezol: i always sudo to root
[16:29] <Chousuke> chmod 777 is bad
[16:30] <CJKay> Chousuke: We can change to 755 when it works
[16:30] <Chousuke> also unce you chown to a username you don't need sudo to chmod
[16:30] <Chousuke> once*
[16:30] <johnnychimpo> anyone out there
[16:30] <Chousuke> CJKay: 755 is a better default anyway
[16:30] <b0ot> urlin2u, what do you mean equl paritions?
[16:30] <b0ot> deej1976, I have had a friend use dd on unequal size drives and he said it worked
[16:31] <b0ot> was that luck?
[16:31] <CJKay> ram111: Possibly, but not sure
[16:31] <odyy> may i take a picture for the screen and show it to you, CJKay ?
[16:31] <aeon-ltd> b0ot: if the partition size is the same it's fine
[16:31] <CJKay> odyy: Of course
[16:31] <CJKay> It should have updated fine
[16:31] <aeon-ltd> i'd assume
[16:31] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: What's your problem?
[16:31] <urlin2u> b0ot, dd or clonezilla require that that both partitions are of the same size or larger
[16:31] <deej1976> b0ot: Very possibly
[16:31] <ram111> CJKay: so how can i troubleshoot this ?
[16:31] <johnnychimpo> noob question, under my system says graphics driver unk and experience  standard.  Im using nvidia drivers though with dual monitors.  any reason why it doesnt say nvidia in the system page?
[16:31] <blink> if anybody from canonical is here, you just lost 100 desktops and 20 servers, 11.10 wasn't ready for release. it's awful.
[16:32] <bjrohan> CJKAY I entered the line you said to, the computer and specifically the USB drive BACKUP is still working away, something is going on :-)
[16:32] <urlin2u> b0ot, larger on the recieving end.
[16:32] <johnnychimpo> 11.10
[16:32] <johnnychimpo> seems laggy at times
[16:32] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Whoch model is it?
[16:32] <CJKay> odyy: What is the error when you try to login as the old account?
[16:32] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: which*
[16:32] <johnnychimpo> i have no idea...
[16:32] <b0ot> hmm
[16:32] <b0ot> researcht ime
[16:32] <johnnychimpo> anyway to look that up on ubuntu?
[16:33] <Souliaq> some guru of "xdg(...)autostart"  file?
[16:33] <CJKay> bjrohan: Well what I gave you should have chown'd every file and directory on the stick to your name and then chmod'd each file to 777 to make sure
[16:33] <urlin2u> blink, they don't look on the irc, and how we to believe you anyway.
[16:33] <odyy> CJKay what old account? I'm logging with the same account all the time
[16:33] <CJKay> bjrohan: So depending on how much is on there... heh
[16:33] <CJKay> odyy: Sorry wrong person
[16:33] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Ok, well have you enabled the drivers in "Hardware Drivers" - (Press Win/Super-key and then write "Driver" choose the first program)
[16:33] <ram111> CJKay: did u by mistake ask odyy the questoin u wanted to ask me ? :D
[16:34] <CJKay> ram111: Yeah heh
[16:34] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Sorry it's called "Additional Drivers"
[16:34] <johnnychimpo> there it is
[16:34] <helo> when i try to install libavformat-extra-53, which replaces libavformat53, a few dozen important packages have to be removed (libx11, libstdc++6, libc6, ...)
[16:34] <johnnychimpo> gforce 8400 GS
[16:34] <helo> anyone know why this is the case?
[16:34] <ram111> CJKay: i dont get any error. the screen shows the CGI and then goes back to lightdm login screen :(
[16:34] <bekks> blink: actually no one cares - neither canonical, nor others. you could buy enterprise support by canonical, so they would help you.
[16:34] <CJKay> ram111: Log into the new account, open the terminal and run "su - <olduser>"
[16:34] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Is it activated?
[16:35] <johnnychimpo> active and in use
[16:35] <johnnychimpo> it says active and in use
[16:35] <ccmonster> hey guys, my xorg is taking up a lot of my cpu, and the system is quite sluggish. Anyone have any fixes?
[16:35] <deej1976> blink: I've I was looking after desktops and servers I'd stick to LTS releases
[16:35] <ram111> CJKay: i am able to do that. i did update my apt-get by going into that account and sudo from there
[16:35] <deej1976> if*
[16:35] <CJKay> blink: You'll get it over it. It works fine for me
[16:35] <johnnychimpo> but when i click on system settings / system info
[16:35] <johnnychimpo> its not displayed
[16:35] <CJKay> ram111: That is very odd
[16:35] <ram111> CJKay: yeah very :(
[16:36] <bjrohan> CJKay it is a 500 GB HD :-)
[16:36] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Cool, well in my case my laptop has a GeForce graphics, but I've had to actually DISABLE my drivers to get the maximum out of my card ;)
[16:36] <CJKay> bjrohan: Well then you could definitely be waiting some time :P
[16:36] <CJKay> ram111: You could try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm`
[16:36] <johnnychimpo> huh
[16:36] <bjrohan> CJKay, it is finished, I did a ls -l and the permissions are still rwx------ :-( it shows me as the owner instead of root however
[16:36] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Oh.. well don't be afraid, mine says that too ;)
[16:36] <CJKay> bjrohan: Lol wtf
[16:36] <johnnychimpo> ahh ok
[16:36] <ram111> CJKay: hmm will try that. what was the old DM ?
[16:36] <ccmonster> anyone?
[16:37] <Souliaq> some guru of "xdg(...)autostart"  file?
[16:37] <bjrohan> CJKAY exactly
[16:37] <johnnychimpo> took forever to figure out how to get my dual monitors to work.  ubuntu noob
[16:37] <CJKay> bjrohan: Definitely an NTFS permissions problem then, you'll have to do a search for how NTFS-3G handles users and permissions
[16:37] <Tulitomaatti> by the way is there an easy way to configure lightdm/X so that the system starts (always) in a portrait resolution and default to such a resolution for all users
[16:37] <johnnychimpo> ubuntu just seems much slower than w7 to me.
[16:37] <ccmonster> xorg is taking up to 30% of my cpu out of no where
[16:37] <CJKay> ram111: The old DM? As in before 11.10?
[16:37] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: Runs light years faster for me on my laptop and desktop
[16:37] <bjrohan> CJKay okey dokey. Thanks for your help!
[16:37] <CJKay> No problemo
[16:37] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Even if Activate the card again, it doesn't say GForce. I think it's because we've got some pretty newish GPUs and they're not recognized by the system yet ;)
[16:37] <ccmonster> and if its not xorg, its compiz eating up nearly 40% at times
[16:37] <Tulitomaatti> i've handled it with a .xprofile that does a xrandr -o left/right but that is per-user afaik
[16:38] <johnnychimpo> ahh
[16:38] <bjrohan> CJKay I do greatly appreciate it, at least I have a dierction to go in
[16:38] <johnnychimpo> my puter is only like a year old
[16:38] <johnnychimpo> its got 8 gb memory too
[16:38] <urlin2u> ccmonster, run htop or top and you will know what it is.
[16:38] <johnnychimpo> just w7 seems much faster at multi tasking.
[16:38] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Well, would you test something for me ?
[16:38] <johnnychimpo> ubuntu seems to bog down
[16:38] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: The amount of memory doesn't make it run faster, it just stops it running slower
[16:38] <johnnychimpo> np
[16:38] <johnnychimpo> ahh
[16:38] <CJKay> But it runs brilliantly for me
[16:38] <ccmonster> urlin2u, that's how i know that xorg /compiz is taking up so much cpu
[16:39] <CJKay> Boots up in 10 seconds or so and applications load in seconds
[16:39] <johnnychimpo> ok what do you want me to test
[16:39] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: Try `free`
[16:39] <zagibu> johnnychimpo: ubuntu scales its speed to the user's intelligence...
[16:39] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: Then paste that to pastebin.com or somewhere
[16:39] <ram111> CJKay: yeah in 10.x. besides --reconfigure is not an option in dpkg
[16:40] <zagibu> no need to be fast when users can't follow
[16:40] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: could you try to DISABLE the Gaphics Driver in your "Additional Drivers" tab, reboot, and then test, and tell if it makes any difference?
[16:40] <johnnychimpo> lost like last years easter eggs
[16:40] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: It truely does for me.
[16:40] <odyy> CJKay http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/p0911111830.jpg/
[16:40] <CJKay> ram111: Not `dpkg --reconfigure`, just literally `dpkg-reconfigure`
[16:40] <johnnychimpo> what is free?
[16:40] <helo> flashplugin-installer depends on libavcodec53. ubuntu-restricted-extras requires libavcodec-extra-53. libavcodec-extra-53 conflicts with libavcoded53... anyone else having problems with libavcodec53 and libavcodec-extra-53?
[16:40] <johnnychimpo> type that in terminal or something?
[16:40] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Open terminal and write "Free"
[16:41] <deej1976> !free
[16:41] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: just "free" sorry
[16:41] <jstoone> deej1976: hehehehe
[16:41] <johnnychimpo>    total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[16:41] <johnnychimpo> Mem:       8120200    7719540     400660          0    4481672    2222452
[16:41] <johnnychimpo> -/+ buffers/cache:    1015416    7104784
[16:41] <johnnychimpo> Swap:       262140          0     262140
[16:41] <AdvoWork> is there any way to count the number of lines in loads of files in a dir?
[16:41] <ram111> CJKay: hehe. ok. will restart and see now
[16:41] <bekks> odyy: Have you done some changes to your system recently? Like expanding/resizing a partition or something?
[16:41] <unkr> hey all
[16:42] <ccmonster> i installed the nvidia 'reccomended' drivers, but there is one that is 'version current updates' ,do I actually want to activate that ?
[16:42] <Tulitomaatti> AdvoWork: cat *|wc -l might work
[16:42] <Souliaq> I need autostart a program as root in Ubuntu, without ask for password!!
[16:42] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Uff.. maybe you're not that familiar with IRC yet, but you should make a habbit of pasting suck outputs into sites like - pastebinit.com - or the like.
[16:42] <bekks> Tulitomaatti: USeless use of cat.
[16:42] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: Ubuntu itself is only using 400MB RAM there. Are you using integrated graphics or separate?
[16:42] <lianyi> hello
[16:42] <jrib> Tulitomaatti: useless use of cat :D
[16:42] <johnnychimpo> seperate
[16:43] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: Have you made sure you have installed the correct drivers?
[16:43] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: imagine everyone pasting their code and .conf files into here, it would be a mess ;)
[16:43] <Tulitomaatti> might work still, and i'm not fluent enough to come up with a better way
[16:43] <johnnychimpo> yeah, i have no idea
[16:43] <zagibu> AdvoWork: you can use find to find them and use it's -exec <command> ; option to do wc -l for each file
[16:43] <johnnychimpo> sorry about that
[16:43] <jrib> Tulitomaatti, AdvoWork: wc -l file1 file2 ...
[16:43] <johnnychimpo> i used what it recommended
[16:43] <eyalsh> I encounter this annoying bug where compiz occasionally hangs with 100% cpu and all my X dies.
[16:43] <eyalsh> I opened a bug in launchpad  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/885498 but didn't get any response yet.
[16:43] <eyalsh> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and Twin View (on my laptop screen + an external screen). Anyone knows a workaround ?
[16:43] <Tulitomaatti> jrib: nice
[16:44] <Tulitomaatti> i didn't know wc can take files as input.
[16:44] <unkr> what is the best cross platform software for remote desktop ??
[16:44] <kamiccolo> Tulitomaatti,       --files0-from=F    read input from the files specified by
[16:44] <kamiccolo>                            NUL-terminated names in file F;
[16:44] <kamiccolo>                            If F is - then read names from standard input
[16:44] <zagibu> AdvoWork: or do what jrib said :)
[16:44] <jstoone> CJKay: I've had to disable my graphics drivers to get the max out of my GPU.. pretty ironic though ;)
[16:44] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: What graphics card have you got?
[16:44] <zagibu> much easier
[16:44] <Tulitomaatti> i've never read the manpage or --help either :P
[16:45] <CJKay> jstoone: I have to disable my graphics card to get anything out of anything!
[16:45] <AdvoWork> zaggynl, jrgp even if in multiple directories inside a dir i specify?
[16:45] <bekks> unkr: There is no "the best". There is just plenty of software fitting your needs more or less good.
[16:45] <CJKay> Optimus unsupported
[16:45] <jstoone> CJKay: He's got a 8400 GS Geforce
[16:45] <jstoone> CJKay: hehe ;)
[16:45] <johnnychimpo> x server says gforce 840 GS
[16:45] <johnnychimpo> 8400
[16:45] <johnnychimpo> i mean
[16:45] <jrib> AdvoWork: just use an appropriate glob.
[16:46] <unkr> bekks: i use teamviewer but what i want is use multiple desktop of the remote system ?? is that possible ??
[16:47] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Try disabling, reboot, test and give us some feedback of the changes. Is that a bad idea? CJKay?
[16:47] <bekks> unkr: Then use teamviewer too... just read about its features ;)
[16:48] <johnnychimpo> disable what the driver in additinal drivers?
[16:48] <jstoone> johnnychimpo: Yupp.
[16:49] <johnnychimpo> all right then
[16:49] <CJKay> johnnychimpo: Ubuntu should have an installation candidate for nVidia GLX but I can't seem to grab it at the moment
[16:49] <odyy> bekks no changes, actually this happened along time ago, and i ignored it as i wasn't using that computer for a while, but i think the last time I was shutting it down I unplugged the power cable directly
[16:49] <helo> when i try to install wine, aptitude says it needs to remove 88 packages, including flashplugin-installer, libc6, libgcc1, libstdc++6, zlibg1...
[16:49] <CJKay> Not sure if it's been superseded
[16:49] <odyy> CJKay you saw the picture??
[16:49] <bekks> odyy: Then write down that uuid displayed, grab a livecd, boot from it and check all filesystems, and check wether that uuid actually exists.
[16:49] <unkr> bekks: i cann't find that in the features thats why i m asking here ??
[16:50] <jstoone> odyy: What's the problem?
[16:50] <CJKay> odyy: Yes, sorry, hold on
[16:50] <bekks> unkr: You can connect to presentation using teamviewr. thats one of their key features. It doesnt matter how many clients connect to the presentation.
[16:51] <odyy> jstoone while openning this happen http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/p0911111830.jpg/
[16:51] <Fanshawe> Hello folks. Does Ubuntu have any sort of equivalent software to Siri (the speech recognition/personal assistant program)?
[16:51] <bekks> odyy: Did you read what I wrote to you?
[16:51] <unkr> bekks: i know that but what i want is different just let me explain to u
[16:51] <theishi> zagibu: I am not exactly sure how do disable the driver via bios... only setting in bios i could find was realated to optimus (some setting Windows uses to enhance graphics)... i did manage to uninstall the driver, but that caused the nvidia one to disapear to any severely downgraded the appearance
[16:51] <odyy> bekks I don't understand what you mean, sorry, may you explain :)
[16:51] <CJKay> odyy: Right. You've got that /dev/root problem, yep?
[16:51] <bekks> odyy: Which part exactly is unclear to you?
[16:51] <theishi> zagibu: *only related setting i could find was about optimus
[16:51] <odyy> CJKay yes
[16:52] <odyy> bekks you mean I write the code after /uuid to the prompt and hit enter ??
[16:52] <bekks> No.
[16:53] <zaggynl> AdvoWork: highlight revenge!
[16:53] <unkr> bekks: when i connect to the remote system (window) through ubuntu  i want that the user inside remote system will also able to do work as well me . but what ever i do doesnot shows up on the windows (multiple desktop)
[16:53] <CJKay> odyy: Try rebooting and when GRUB appears, press 'e' over Ubuntu
[16:53] <CJKay> Then report back
[16:53] <bekks> odyy: I mean you grab a pen and some paper and write down thaat UUID displayed. Then grab a livecd, and boot it, to check your filesystems and to check wether thet UUID actually exists on your computer.
[16:53] <unkr> bekks: any solution for this if yes then how ??
[16:54] <okee> Anyone have experience with dual boot an Win 7?  I am inclined to remove Win 7 and use ubuntu and win XP-32bit.  I think there are some issues with the install program recognizing hard disk geometry that supports dual boot. Win 7 doesn't seem to want to share the disk with anyone else.  I found a couple of posting on the net about this, so I know it isn't me.  I didn't have this problem with
[16:54] <okee> Win XP, but XP still has to be installed last.  What folders should I be setting up?  Previously I just used the /, and swap.  Do I need the whole thing?
[16:54] <bekks> unkr: Thats a windows problem - not a Ubuntu one ;)
[16:54] <zagibu> theishi: too bad...it seems you have to tell X directly to use the nvidia card and ignore the intel card...however, I have no idea how to do that
[16:54] <odyy> bekks I tried to check the filesystem from a live cd, but the filesystem doesn't open from a live cd, it tells me that I have no permission
[16:54] <unkr> bekks: whether it is possible what i m trying to do ??
[16:54] <odyy> CJKay ok, wait a sec
[16:55] <milen8204> hello all, I have updated my Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 and now I have some problems whit my microphone , it provide bad sound any ideas how can I fix it up?
[16:55] <bekks> unkr: It is possible, with all protocols except RDP :)
[16:55] <zagibu> theishi: maybe you should ask here how to specify which device to use, when you have two GPUs
[16:55] <unkr> bekks: i dont know about protocols   what r they?
[16:56] <theishi> zagibu: i do not have an xorg.conf file that I can find
[16:56] <rickb06> hi
[16:56] <zagibu> theishi: yeah it all changed some years ago
[16:57] <nemo> So. I was wondering.  quite a few people I know are avoiding ubuntu 11.10 and the elimination of a normal WM...
[16:57] <nemo> Firefox 8 just came out that allows nifty webgl CORS stuff
[16:57] <nemo> will it get pushed to Ubuntu 11.04?
[16:57] <CJKay> nemo: You get used to Unity, promise
[16:57] <zagibu> theishi: before you bother with X conf directly, might try to make sure there is no GUI way
[16:57] <rickb06> anyone familiar with the Full Disk Encryption included on the alt iso? I assume since it's accesible that it's on an unencrypted partition.. Does anyone know where the 'splash' image resides? :) Thanks!!! :) <3
[16:57] <odyy> CJKay: "when GRUB appears"?, nothing appears before this message, it appears directly
[16:57] <nemo> CJKay: lol. Not talking about myself. I switched to XFCE4
[16:57] <nemo> CJKay: others. family members, my mom...
[16:57] <CJKay> Ah
[16:58] <nemo> people who I've tried unity and gnome-shell on, and they find it hopelessly confusing and nothing like what they are used to
[16:58] <bekks> unkr: Things like RDP, VNC, etc.
[16:58] <CJKay> In that case I can probably see why you'd be worried heh
[16:58] <nemo> my mom is in her late 50s, she has no desire to learn a new UI
[16:58] <theishi> zagibu: ok.... this windows manager took away my menu bar and as a result i have to do everything via terminal :-(
[16:58] <nemo> she loves ubuntu, but not drastic UI changes
[16:58] <zagibu> theishi: is there something you can do in system settings -> display maybe?
[16:58] <zagibu> oh
[16:58] <nemo> although she did customise her gnome2 a lot (applets, colours, even a compact menu layout)
[16:58] <CJKay> odyy: Right, well that's a little bit more difficult then
[16:58] <CJKay> Shame Gnome3 isn't Gnome2
[16:58] <nemo> CJKay: aaaanyway, FF8 on Ubuntu 11.04 - will happen?
[16:58] <theishi> zagibu: i found gnome-control-center command, so i can do that, let me look
[16:59] <CJKay> nemo: I don't see why not. Ubuntu 11.04 has a while to go before it becomes unsupported
[16:59] <CJKay> But that's just speculation
[16:59] <nemo> 'k. guess it'll just take a day or two
[16:59] <CJKay> odyy: Gimme a minute
[16:59] <nemo> CJKay: I wanna show her the awesome nokia 3d world
[17:00] <theishi> zagibu: I just opened up gnome-screen-saver... this is generating the screensaver fine
[17:00] <unkr> bekks: i think they are products but they do a same pattern to connect to each other  is that may be called as protocol ??
[17:00] <CJKay> odyy: Are you using a separate root partition?
[17:00] <odyy> CJKay, take your time dude
[17:00] <bekks> unkr: That arent products but protocols for desktop sharing.
[17:00] <zagibu> theishi: and glxgears?
[17:00] <jstoone> :wq
[17:00] <jstoone> damnit
[17:01] <odyy> you mean a separate partition for the system? yes
[17:01] <zagibu> theishi: I have to go now...hope you manage to get it working
[17:01] <theishi> zagibu: no that still doesn't work
[17:02] <theishi> zagibu: cool thanks for all the help
[17:02] <unkr> bekks: okk   i dont know about that thnxx
[17:02] <CJKay> odyy: Well it would appear either the partition UUID has magically changed, or it's gone wrong for some reason
[17:02] <CJKay> odyy: Boot into Busybox if you aren't already
[17:03] <johnnychimp26> OK now I can't use Ubuntu at all screen is scrambled
[17:03] <johnnychimp26> can't see anything
[17:03] <CJKay> johnnychimp26: After doing what I put on pastebin?
[17:03] <johnnychimp26> I'm on my phone
[17:04] <johnnychimp26> I just disabled the driver
[17:04] <johnnychimp26> now I can't even log in
[17:04] <johnnychimp26> or se the log in page
[17:04] <odyy> how to boot int0 BusyBox ?? CJKay
[17:04] <johnnychimp26> is there a recover or safe mode on start up
[17:04] <Zild_> Can someone help me with my ubuntu installation?
[17:04] <CJKay> odyy: Just boot into Ubuntu normally. It will load Busybox if it fails
[17:05] <bekks> Zild_: Just ask...
[17:05] <okee> Ubuntu crashed on installation, and I have no idea why. I installed all of the required directories typically found in Linux/Unix, and I used less than 200gb of a 750gb hd.  I am now at a purple screen that appears to be cycling, and I have no desktop.  What should I do?
[17:05] <Zild_> I have it installed it properly, but it never boots
[17:05] <bekks> CJKay: As you can see on the screenshot, it isnt boting at all.
[17:05] <CJKay> johnnychimp26: Are you using GRUB?
[17:05] <CJKay> bekks: Yes it is
[17:05] <johnnychimp26> no idea what that is
[17:05] <CJKay> It's loading initramfs
[17:05] <nemo> okee: well. it miiiight be doing an fsck right now
[17:05] <CJKay> Which is what you need to recover
[17:05] <nemo> okee: you could leave it alone for a while
[17:05] <rickb06> LVM on Ubuntu, is the 'splash' image presented on boot 'changeable'?
[17:05] <haylo_> okee so it crashed at 200G? thats not that bad
[17:05] <nemo> okee: but, if you want more information you could edit the boot entry so it does a full dump of what it is doing
[17:05] <nemo> okee: instead of the normal loader
[17:06] <odyy> i'm loading normally each time and that is what i get each time, CJKay
[17:06] <nemo> okee: from the grub boot menu
[17:06] <johnnychimp26> can I repair or something
[17:06] <CJKay> odyy: Does it say "(initramfs) _"?
[17:06] <johnnychimp26> it isn't using a video driver or something
[17:06] <CJKay> johnnychimp26: Do you still have the LiveCD?
[17:06] <nemo> okee: probably as simple as deleting the last couple of entries  (splash and whatnot) and then booting
[17:06] <strix_> does Ubuntu 11.10 supports Nvidia Optimus technology? I'm thinking to get new laptop with Nvidia Geforce GT 555M graphics card
[17:06] <Zild_> mine stops where all the services are starting
[17:06] <johnnychimp26> wtf is that
[17:06] <nemo> okee: (after choosing the boot line)
[17:07] <CJKay> johnnychimp26: The install CD
[17:07] <okee> HMm. There is no icons on the desktop. There prompt running in circles for the last ten minutes.  I am wondering if it is seized?  I do have the upper menu bar, so I can shut down if necessary.  How long should I let this laptop torture itself?
[17:07] <odyy> CJKay yes dude, check the picture http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/p0911111830.jpg/
[17:07] <CJKay> strix_: No, don't do it! lol
[17:07] <johnnychimp26> never used that dual w7 boot
[17:07] <bekks> Zild_: Which Ubuntu version do you use?
[17:07] <Zild_> its 11.10
[17:07] <Zild_> 32bit
[17:08] <nemo> okee: oh. you managed to boot?
[17:08] <okee> I have decided not to use Win 7.  I have read enough online about problems with dual boot, to where I think MS intentionally tried to prevent people from using both.  I am going to use Ubuntu and Win XP dual boot instead.
[17:08] <okee> I am using Version 11.10
[17:08] <Zild_> bekks: its 11.10 32bit
[17:08] <fhtagn> okee: I am currently dual booting win7 and ubuntu with no problems at all
[17:08] <strix_> CJKay: no support for Optimus or else?
[17:09] <bekks> okee: W7 dualboot works fine here. Looks like MS isnt preventing me from using it ;)
[17:09] <johnnychimp26> I'm screwed right
[17:09] <okee> fhtagn>  How did you do it?  Did you install all of the folder options that Linux normally can use during the install?  What sequence did you use?
[17:09] <CJKay> strix_: 'Fraid not
[17:09] <okee> fhtgan>  Did you install Ubuntu first?
[17:09] <CJKay> strix_: nVidia refuse to support it on Linux
[17:09] <CJKay> odyy: `cd /dev/disk`
[17:09] <odyy> CJKay yes dude, check the picture http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/p0911111830.jpg/
[17:10] <johnnychimp26> oh well
[17:10] <johnnychimp26> uninstall then
[17:11] <odyy> CJKay it gives me (initramfs) again
[17:11] <CJKay> johnnychimp26: Download the Ubuntu 11.10 LiveCD and you should be able to run that
[17:11] <CJKay> odyy: `ls -a`
[17:11] <strix_> CJKay: what about Radeon HD 6490, is it supported?
[17:11] <CJKay> strix_: I no little to nothing about AMD cards. Sorry
[17:12] <Zild_> anyone?
[17:12] <okee> fhtagn>  Didyouinstall Ubuntufirst???
[17:12] <strix_> CJKay: ok, thanks
[17:12] <odyy> CJKay : by-path  by-id  bu-uuid  ..  .
[17:12] <CJKay> odyy: `cd by-path`
[17:12] <fhtagn> okee: soz, wandered off. Installed windows first =/
[17:13] <rickb06> i need initramfs-related help plz. :| someone :|\
[17:13] <CJKay> odyy: Then `ls -a`
[17:13] <johnnychimp26> great thanks for suggestion
[17:13] <unkr> okee: it will be easy & safe to install windows first
[17:13] <okee> Did you install Ubuntu from the hard disk at bootup, after installing windows first?
[17:13] <odyy> CJKay : by-path  by-id  bu-uuid  ..  . ,, that is the result of ls -a
[17:13] <CJKay> odyy: No, `cd by-path && ls -a`
[17:13] <okee> OK. I am wondering because with Win XP you must install Linux and other OS first.  So I guess it is different with Win 7.
[17:14] <CJKay> okee: GRUB is for multibooting. Always install Linux last
[17:14] <fhtagn> okee: yes. Installed windows, then booted from usb(with ubuntu there) and installed it on another partition
[17:14] <okee> Ubuntu's menu loader is a bit primitive and doesn't give you enough options for folders.
[17:14] <szal> okee: I guess you mixed something up there..  with XP too you should install Windows first
[17:14] <CJKay> Ubuntu auto-installs GRUB which can detect the Windows bootloader. Windows will just decimate everything and then you can only boot that
[17:14] <Zild_> a little help would be awesome from someone....
[17:15] <CJKay> Zild_: It's easier when we know what the problem is
[17:15] <unkr> CJKay: what to do if it shows NTLDR  or  grub missing  in both cases ??
[17:15] <szal> okee: folders?
[17:15] <fhtagn> okee: I don't think this ever gave me any problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Install_Ubuntu_after_Windows
[17:15] <okee> Not true.  If you install XP first, win won't boot.  I have a lot of experience with this.  Windows overides the boot loader in Win XP.
[17:15] <rickb06> I've been asking for help for like 20 minnutes. :\ my problem is not well documented...
[17:15] <Zild_> I've been telling the problem CJKay
[17:16] <szal> okee: then you have an odd machine or you did something wrong
[17:16] <CJKay> Zild_: No one picked up huh? Okay, what's the problem?
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> Zild_: this channel goes fast, please repeat your question, in one line
[17:16] <odyy> it results in many lines of the form: pci-0000:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:1:0, the lines differs
[17:16] <odyy> CJKay
[17:16] <CJKay> unkr: You're scrwed
[17:17] <unkr> does anyone knows how to make  dual boot system back to single bootable ??
[17:17] <Zild_> CJKay: MonkeyDusy: I just installed 11.10 32bit, installed fine, won't boot. hangs indefinitely when the services are starting
[17:17] <odyy> it results in many lines of the form: pci-0000:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:1:0, the lines differs, CJKay
[17:17] <CJKay> odyy: Okay. `cd ../by-uuid && ls ./c5a*"
[17:17] <unkr> CJKay: doesnot have any solution   ? i have to do a complete format again :( ??
[17:17] <johnnychimp26> I got in busy box now what
[17:18] <CJKay> unkr: If GRUB is dead -and- Windows is dead, your only hope is an install CD but if you can't get that, you're completely off chart
[17:18] <CJKay> LiveCD*
[17:19] <johnnychimp26> yes
[17:19] <johnnychimp26> I had a copy of Ubuntu studio
[17:19] <odyy> CJKay it resuts in aprompt ">"
[17:19] <unkr> CJKay: i have seen livecd like hirenbootcd    in which it shows fixmbr or bootsector fix   but never solved my problem . have u tried that ??
[17:19] <johnnychimp26> rescue a bkn system
[17:20] <johnnychimp26> install ubuntu
[17:20] <CJKay> odyy: You didn't type it write then. Press enter and make sure you copy exactly: cd /dev/disk/by-uuid && ls ./c5a*
[17:20] <CJKay> right*
[17:20] <CJKay> unkr: No, sorry
[17:20] <Zild_> Any ideas CJKay?
[17:21] <unkr> CJKay: no prob
[17:21] <CJKay> unkr: fixmbr and bootsector should both sort out your problem, so why they aren't I don't know
[17:21] <mahamed90> any reasons why power manager appears t login??
[17:21] <CJKay> Zild_: Do you have GRUB installed?
[17:21] <mahamed90> yep
[17:21] <johnnychimp26> running recovery
[17:21] <Zild_> CJKay: I would suppose
[17:22] <johnnychimp26> Dec to use as root file?
[17:22] <unkr> CJkay: actually i m making the problem to make system unbootable & then try to fix that   grub or NTLDR   prob  but doest work for me
[17:22] <johnnychimp26> device
[17:22] <mahamed90> my system is fine
[17:22] <mahamed90> i have issues with my power and my monitor
[17:23] <CJKay> Zild_: Well when you restart, do you get a menu that asks your what you want to boot?
[17:23] <mahamed90> it changes all the timw
[17:23] <mahamed90> y
[17:23] <blink> CJKay: that it works for you is no indication of how much time I will have to waste, and has been wasted, just getting my own desktop up. debian stable = 15 minutes of diff'ing config, all services up. can't argue that.
[17:23] <greg3000> ubuntu 11.04 here: remote desktop asks the local screen for a password before allowing me access.. how can I stop that?  I think it may be the keyring because it's not an option in the RDesktop preferences gui menu
[17:24] <odyy> CJKay it gives me : ./c5ae4e54-e267-4fc5-9ce8-09528c92b204
[17:24] <Zild_> It goes straight to a purple screen CJKay
[17:24] <greg3000> <-- may have found my answer http://maketecheasier.com/auto-unlock-keyring-manager-in-ubuntu-intrepid/2009/03/14
[17:24] <blink> I have no gui, and it takes 5 minutes to boot the system, with errors about network and dbus.  /var/log/messages doesn't exist. why bother
[17:24] <mang0> How do I kill the process tree of one applicatin from terminal? Thunderbird is giving me a message saying that "thunderbird is already open"
[17:25] <CJKay> blink: Works pretty well for everything I've installed it on
[17:25] <CJKay> Make sure you have the right drivers and you should be fine
[17:25] <Skummel> mang0 killall thunderbird
[17:25] <johnnychimp26> OK I got a shell now what
[17:25] <CJKay> odyy: Now that's definitely weird
[17:25] <blink> CJKay: I said that nvidia drivers work fine
[17:25] <blink> I have no window manager
[17:25] <odyy> CJKay so??
[17:25] <blink> no login
[17:25] <mang0> Skummel: Thanks. :)
[17:26] <johnnychimp26> can I install driver from shell
[17:26] <Skummel> yw
[17:26] <johnnychimp26> or go back
[17:26] <blink> and eth0 fails to come up at boot, but works (after a 1min delay) after being brought up by hand after
[17:26] <CJKay> Okay too many people asking for support
[17:26] <freaktux> hi
[17:26] <chino> i soliti idioti - film
[17:26]  * agentcobra is back (gone 11:37:37)
[17:26] <CJKay> Anyone wanna lend a hand? lol
[17:27] <Zild_> You need some help CJKay
[17:27] <CJKay> blink: I probably already asked, but do you know if you have GRUB?
[17:27] <blink> I'm not asking for support for anything other than gdm/lightdm, window manager/login.
[17:27] <blink> grub's not a problem.
[17:27] <Zild_> CJKay, i think I have the grub problem
[17:27] <CJKay> blink: No, it's a solution
[17:27] <johnnychimp26> trying to fix after suggestion
[17:27] <zastaph> how do I boot into recovery mode? do I press something when the keyboard = man logo appears or?
[17:27] <blink> not for me I guess.
[17:27] <CJKay> Zild_: So what, you just boot into a purple screen?
[17:28] <blink> not purple. I boot, i see the console messages, errors, then I hit the nvidia driver, and then a black screen on both monitors
[17:28] <mahamed90> how to do you make ubuntu stop changing the screen resolution??
[17:28] <blink> no cursor, no login
[17:29] <CJKay> odyy: I'm gonna give you a link with some commands you need to carry out, make sure you type them exactly
[17:29] <blink> this is coming from somebody who's done a freebsd box using startx and xinit with openbox. I'm saying this doesn't work, configured as per the spec
[17:29] <Emphy> Hi
[17:30] <CJKay> odyy: Actually they can be done separately. Do `fdisk -l` and pastebin it if you can
[17:30] <Zild_> CJKay, and after that it goes black to a screen with starting and stopping stuff
[17:30] <Emphy> I'v a question about the BIOS password.
[17:30] <blink> ask it
[17:31] <CJKay> blink: Have you got a Live CD at all that you can boot into?
[17:31] <odyy> CJKay where is the link dude? I have to go for minutes
[17:31] <blink> not ubuntu, gentoo and debian yes.
[17:31] <CJKay> odyy: `fdisk -l`
[17:31] <blink> I upgraded from 11.04
[17:31] <CJKay> Hmm that should do
[17:31] <CJKay> blink: Boot the Debian one
[17:32] <ray_> lucid 10.04..firefox-3.6.23..Error: Firefox already running but not responding...How do I close it without rebooting o/s.
[17:32] <blink> to what end
[17:32] <CJKay> ray_: sudo pkill firefox
[17:32] <CJKay> blink: What?
[17:32] <odyy> results in : /bin/sh:fdisk: not found
[17:32] <ray_> CJKay, Thanks
[17:32] <CJKay> odyy: Gahhh
[17:32] <odyy> results in : /bin/sh:fdisk: not found CJKay
[17:33] <CJKay> odyy: Do you know what partition your system is on?
[17:33] <Emphy> Okay so, I bought a Fujistu PC, and the salesman install Ubuntu and fix a password on the BIOS, but I want to install dualboot with windows/ubuntu but if I fix the windows .iso on cd rom and I boot on the cd, and I install windows, there will be always a password on the BIOS ?
[17:33] <orated> Hello! I did re-installation of Ubuntu and had user account name as say, abc. My current account is say, xyz. I thought I'd be able to copy Documents, Music folders etc from abc to xyz inside /home but I cannot copy, paste. Can anyone help me fix it?
[17:33] <odyy> CJKay I didn't name it, but i know it
[17:34] <johnnychimp26> what do I type in shell to fix video
[17:34] <CJKay> odyy: Not the name, but the /dev/sdX or /dev/hdX format?
[17:34] <odyy> CJKay no
[17:34] <elz89> My mouse is a blurry block on the logon screen to Oneiric? any ideas fellas?
[17:34] <orated> I can do sudo chown user:user -R ~user but I have to do that all the time ....
[17:35] <blitzkrieg3> orated: probably your uid has changed
[17:35] <CJKay> odyy: `ash`
[17:35] <mahamed90> anyone know how to stop ubuntu from changing the screen resolution?????????????????????
[17:35] <orated> blitzkrieg3: How do I check that?
[17:35] <Zild_> CJKay, I 've seen the GRUB loading screen on other distros, but not when I install ubuntu...
[17:36] <blitzkrieg3> orated: cat /etc/passwd |grep login
[17:36] <blitzkrieg3> orated: then ls -ln on files
[17:36] <blitzkrieg3> to check their uid
[17:37] <orated> blitzkrieg3: Your first command returned - sshd:x:114:65534::/var/run/sshd:/usr/sbin/nologin
[17:38] <orated> blitzkrieg3: I'm not sure how to confirm uid changes. ..
[17:39] <spartak> hi, anyone knows a good lincity-ng tutorial? I have found one in the web, it seems that it is the official tutorial, but, it is far from complete
[17:39] <spartak> I know lincity-ng is not ubuntu, but, I play the game in ubuntu
[17:40] <blink> so gdm installed, and the file exists as a socket:  ** (gdm-binary:4009): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused
[17:40] <llutz> orated: "id" tells you your actual uid, "ls -n /old/home/you" your old uid
[17:40] <blitzkrieg3> orated: login meaning the login name of the user
[17:40] <llutz> orated: even: numerical ownership
[17:40] <Gnea> spartak: if google doesn't find you one, perhaps you should write a new one
[17:40] <blitzkrieg3> james:x:1000:1000:James:/home/james:/bin/bash
[17:40] <llutz> orated: "getent passwd <yourusername>"    instead of uuoc
[17:41] <spartak> Gnea, well, basically that is not the solution, but thanks
[17:41] <blitzkrieg3> my uid is 1000, if it was 1001 on the previous install, I won't be able to use my homedir without the previously mentioned chown
[17:41] <greg3000> Ubuntu Unity Users: I seem to have lost the nice looking grey bar that goes on the top of the screen.. now it's ugly like w$ndows classic or something, it affected the login gui also.  What package should I remove/install to get this running again?
[17:41] <blitzkrieg3> llutz has the better way of doing it
[17:42] <Gnea> spartak: Hi, welcome to open source software, where if you don't find what you're looking for, then you're obligated to make it happen instead of whining that someone else hasn't done so yet.
[17:42] <blink> anybody actually know how to troubleshoot dbus?
[17:42] <orated> blitzkrieg3: llutz: I checked with the commands. And for both the new and old user 1000 is outputted
[17:43] <xxiao> just found out all users on my 10.04 box can write to /, like touch /aa, mkdir /test
[17:43] <Zild_> Anyone?!?
[17:43] <luis_> blink:  Try this:  http://mindref.blogspot.com/2011/02/dbus-daemon-nssldap-failed-bind-ldap.html
[17:43] <blitzkrieg3> orated: I don't know then, you shouldn't have to chown your files
[17:44] <blink> sweet, hope that opens in links2
[17:44] <elz89> xxiao: you ought to fix that sharpish!
[17:44] <orated> blitzkrieg3: Usually what is required to be done in cases of permission issues like this ?
[17:44] <blitzkrieg3> orated: I can't tell what the issue is
[17:45] <Johnnychimpo26> are you avail to help
[17:45] <Johnnychimpo26> yet
[17:45] <xxiao> strange,all users can write to /, i don't know i changed anything related to that
[17:45] <blitzkrieg3> orated: do a 'ls -ln /home/abc'
[17:45] <blink> luis_: I do not have an `rcconf`
[17:45] <xxiao> though nobody can write to /usr/bin etc, but under / it's writable???
[17:45] <blitzkrieg3> and 'ls -ln /home/xyz'
[17:45] <blitzkrieg3> make that 'ls -lnd'
[17:45] <llutz> orated: "cp /oldhome/file /newhome; ls -n /newhome/file"    what is shown as owner/group then?
[17:45] <xxiao> /dev/sdb2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[17:46] <xxiao> nothing suspicious on mount
[17:46] <elz89> Anyone see my query on the blockey mouse pointer?
[17:46] <david123> Hi all, I'm having a problem with the Transmission watch directory for torrents. I tried asking in the #transmission channel, but no-one replied. Can anyone here lend a hand?
[17:46] <okCPU> just upgraded to 11.10 with Unity desktop... where do I access my applications and why are there no window menus?
[17:46] <elz89> david123: most likely a perms issue?
[17:47] <AK4> leaving
[17:47] <xxiao> how can I make / only writable to root?
[17:47] <david123> elz89, I've set the .torrent file to 777 permissions. The directory is also read/writable, as it is the same directory to which downloaded torrents are saved.
[17:47] <riffautae> xxiao: sudo chmod go-w
[17:47] <xxiao> chown root.root / did not help
[17:47] <riffautae> xxiao: sudo chmod go-w /
[17:47] <jrib> xxiao: that's how it is by default.
[17:47] <riffautae> jrib: his was messsed u[p
[17:48] <networm> ∕list
[17:48] <xxiao> jrib: you mean any use can write to /? that's the default?
[17:48] <jrib> xxiao: how was it messed up?
[17:48] <networm> sorry :P
[17:48] <jrib> xxiao: no, only root can write to / by default
[17:48] <xxiao> jrib: i don't know, just found out my broken makefile is installing to /
[17:48] <luis_> blink: run: sudo apt-get install rcconf
[17:48] <elz89> david123: what is the problem then?
[17:48] <blitzkrieg3> lotta permissions issues today
[17:48] <xxiao> i would expect a write failure
[17:48] <spartak> I hate third world countries. Internet is always blocked here :((
[17:48] <bekks> xxiao: So you did run it as root then?
[17:48] <elz89> blitzkrieg3: why aye
[17:48] <xxiao> no
[17:48] <blink> it looks like this is bug 811441
[17:48] <david123> elz89, torrents placed in this directory are not being picked up by the transmission daemon.
[17:49] <blitzkrieg3> root should look like:
[17:49] <blitzkrieg3> drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 2011-11-01 09:26 /
[17:49] <david123> elz89, (to auto-start)
[17:49] <elz89> spartak: have you not heard of a proxy
[17:49] <xxiao> just as any regular use, i can touch /something or mkdir /something
[17:49] <riffautae> xxiao: ls -la / and see what the perms for / are
[17:49] <riffautae> xxiao: sorry hte perms for '.'
[17:49] <blitzkrieg3> if not do 'chown root:root /' and 'chmod 755 /'
[17:49] <spartak> elz89, it is not about the technical side, but, about the freedom
[17:49] <llutz> ls -ld /
[17:49] <xxiao> riffautae: gosh, both . and .. is 777
[17:49] <spartak> elz89, the goverment always affraid of its citizens
[17:49] <riffautae> llutz: nice
[17:50] <bekks> xxiao: Didi you mess up the permissions lately? :)
[17:50] <elz89> spartak: please, don't flame you fool!
[17:50] <riffautae> xxiao: yea do what blitzkrieg3 said
[17:50] <xxiao> bekks: don't recall
[17:50] <orated> blitzkrieg3: old - drwxr-xr-x 58 1000 1000 4096 2011-11-04 00:15 . new - drwxr-xr-x 44 1000 1000 4096 2011-11-09 22:47 . And llutz, for a copied test file - -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 26856 2011-11-09 23:19
[17:50] <llutz> orated: "ls -l /newhome/file"    what is shown as owner/group then?
[17:50] <luis_> blink: Did you try that?
[17:50] <spartak> elz89, it is the truth, but yes, it is out of topic
[17:51] <elz89> spartak: it is also flaming, so just pack it in!
[17:51] <pimpmaneaton> Hey everyone, does anyone by chance know of a fix for a compaq f572us laptop that keeps dropping wireless
[17:51] <Gnea> !ot | spartak
[17:52] <xxiao> blitzkrieg3: ok that fixes it, how did it happen is a mystery
[17:52] <orated> llutz: Your last command gave - -rw-r--r-- 1 new_user new_user 26856 2011-11-09 23:19
[17:52] <xxiao> hope it's not caused by my apt-get update
[17:52] <llutz> orated: so you should'nt need to chown at all
[17:52] <david123> elz89, any idea? I can give you the relevant config details if you like
[17:52] <elz89> Has my blockey mouse pointer got something to do with Gnome3?
[17:53] <elz89> david123: still thinking about it, havent used transmission in a while. What user is trans-daemon running under?
[17:53] <orated> llutz: What still I cannot paste anything to new user
[17:53] <orated> s/What/Bur
[17:53] <orated> t
[17:53] <mmarker> Does anyone have experience using lxc on Oneric? The Wiki page for Ubunti is a tad sparse, and the other LXC documentation is also slightly lacking.
[17:54] <david123> elz89, debian-transmission (yes this isn't Ubuntu, but the problem is probably independent of this)
[17:55] <orated> Thanks llutz blitzkrieg3
[17:56] <blitzkrieg3> orated: np
[17:56] <elz89> david123: and, does that so called user have the right permissions to 'read' your 'watch' dir?
[17:56] <theishi> i installed a new nvidia driver, and now startx won't load... no graphical gui...nothing.. the main error seems to be 'failed to load nvidia, module doesn't exist'
[17:57] <elz89> theishi: sudo jockey-cli in tty1
[17:57] <david123> elz89, yes. (It is also the directory to which BitTorrent data is written as the file is downloaded / seeded)
[17:57] <david123> elz89, So I know that it has read/write permissions there
[17:57] <sgashepp> Hello. is there a way to remove the 'workspace switcher' from the laucher in 11.10?
[17:57] <theadmin> sgashepp: Apparently not
[17:58] <sgashepp> no? thats it? lol
[17:58] <elz89> david123: have you ever set it up that way before?
[17:58] <sgashepp> okay.. well thanks anyway?
[17:58] <theishi> elz89: there isn't jockey cli.... only text and gtk
[17:59] <elz89> theishi: whatever bud, you know where you are looking though now right?
[18:00] <theishi> elz89: no.... i am not sure what that command is or what it is supposed to do... you want me to run the gtk one?
[18:00] <david123> elz89, I solved my problem.The service needs to be stopped before the config is edited, instead of being reloaded after editing
[18:00] <elz89> theishi: text
[18:00] <theishi> elz89: ok
[18:00] <Zild_> Fresh install of 11.10 and the nvidia module fails to load at boot every time. what do I do?
[18:00] <greg3000> keyring password shows up when I try to VNC into my ubuntu system.. how to fix?
[18:00] <blink> luis_: after doing what you asked, and rebooting I am now given a new error on boot in addition to the others
[18:00] <blink> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[18:01] <blink> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start S20dbus
[18:01] <blink> bad paste.
[18:01] <elz89> david123: when you mentioned Debian, I ofcourse made certain assumptions about you :-P
[18:01] <david123> :P
[18:01] <elz89> david123: essentially a school boy error then yeah?
[18:01] <theishi> elz89: ok i ran that (why was tty1 nessisary btw).. it gave me an error: it could not open display
[18:02] <david123> elz89, basically, yeah. I forgot that Transmission behaves strangely when it comes to config editing.
[18:02] <greg3000> I don't have the "Password Keyrings" tab like in this tutorial: http://maketecheasier.com/auto-unlock-keyring-manager-in-ubuntu-intrepid/2009/03/14
[18:03] <blink> I am removing gdm, gnome, unity, and purging all dependant packages and configuration.
[18:03] <elz89> theishi: what command are you running?
[18:04] <theishi> elz89: jockey-text
[18:04] <elz89> theishi: as root?
[18:04] <theishi> elz89: yeah
[18:04] <elz89> lol, should have said 'got root' ???
[18:04] <theishi> elz89: sudo jockey-text
[18:04] <elz89> theishi: ok, what does it say?
[18:04] <Gnea> elz89: I have a t-shirt that asks that question
[18:04] <familia> klok
[18:05] <elz89> Gnea: I need a t-shirt that asks that question :-P
[18:05] <theishi> elz89: GTK Warning, could not open display... you want me to pastebin the whole output?
[18:07] <blink> what boot time script is responsible for /etc/network/interfaces in 11.10
[18:07] <elz89> theishi: not really... what has GTK got to do with a terminal?
[18:08] <spicyWith> is there an equivalent to addapt-repository for aptitude in ubuntu?
[18:08] <juanmax> Hi community, anybody with experience in ZFS ?
[18:08] <greg3000> my keyring  issue is solved
[18:08] <elz89> spicyWith: manually edit sources.list?
[18:08] <elz89> !ask | juanmax
[18:08] <greg3000> Help Request to Any Ubuntu Unity Users: I seem to have lost the nice looking grey bar that goes on the top of the screen.. now it's ugly like w$ndows classic or something, it affected the login gui also.  What package should I remove/install to get this running again?
[18:09] <theishi> elz89: no idea.... it is mentioning some python file it tried to run
[18:09] <llutz> blink: /etc/init/network-interface.conf
[18:10] <Gnea> elz89: not sure if they make it anymore.... this is all they seem to have anymore: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/hats-ties/36fc/?srp=3
[18:10] <Zild_> http://sprunge.us/SKaC here is a link to the problem I believe I'm having
[18:10] <juanmax> Ok, here the question. I have a ZFS filesystem on top of a 3 x 500GB HDD in a RAIDZ pool. I created it like this sudo zpool create -f -o ashift=12 datasafe raidz /dev/sdd /dev/sde /dev/sdf and I do not get 1TB (as expected) but only 291GB. How can I troubleshoot that?
[18:10] <llutz> blink: if networkmanager is active, you also want to look at /etc/Networkmanager/dispatcher.d/*
[18:10] <Gnea> elz89: http://www.zazzle.com/got_root_tshirt-235462968297814388  :p
[18:11] <elz89> Gnea: I'd get beaten up wearing a hat like that round these parts :-P
[18:11] <llutz>  /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/*
[18:11] <Gnea> elz89: they have bumper stickers on sale for $1
[18:11] <elz89> Gnea: In future PM me this off-topic shazzle.
[18:11] <Gnea> elz89: sure thing
[18:12] <elz89> FEI that was not an invite to PM me
[18:13] <riffautae> juanmax: make sure you created it on the 500gb drives and didnt accedentaly include a smaller one
[18:13] <juanmax> I am sure I created it on those drives. I exported the pool and reimported with /disk/by-id/ and I can see the serial numbers.
[18:14] <o0o0> what was the nvidia command that builds a xorg.conf?
[18:14] <theishi> elz89: any more ideas?
[18:15] <juanmax> riffautae: any more ideas ?
[18:15] <greg3000> i lost the cool effects on my windows in ubuntu unity.. any ideas how to restore that?
[18:15] <riffautae> juanmax: sorry no, i dont know the details of zfs
[18:15] <juanmax> riffautae: ok, thanks anyway!
[18:16] <fellayaboy> from the terminal how can i open a gnome window to my current location
[18:17] <ndagirl> hey
[18:17] <fellayaboy> nobody knows how to open a windows from the current location froma  terminal
[18:18] <riffautae> fellayaboy: nautilus .
[18:18] <ndagirl> does anyone know where i can make a fsat buck
[18:18] <fellayaboy> yeah but the current location im in
[18:18] <riffautae> fellayaboy: patience, even though i did it took time
[18:18] <riffautae> fellayaboy: thats what the '.'
[18:18] <riffautae> is for
[18:18] <fellayaboy> excellent worked..i didnt know that riffautae
[18:18] <fellayaboy> thank u
[18:19] <fellayaboy> . means current directory
[18:19] <riffautae> fellayaboy: yes
[18:19] <fellayaboy> thank u riffautae
[18:19] <spicyWith> elz89: no similar option?
[18:19] <spartak> fellayaboy, I think you also should know that .. means parent directory ;))
[18:19] <philsf_> after the upgrade to oneiric, my tomboy doesn't sync anymore. Running from the terminal, I get the error: "A note with this title already exists: New Note Template". I tried deleting the new note template, but it didn't change anything. How can I fix this?
[18:19] <fellayaboy> yes preceding directory
[18:20] <ndagirl> spicy do u know channel 2go 2 for some easy money
[18:20] <fellayaboy> i know this is totally of this channels subject but does anyone know a channel with talented artist congergate?
[18:20] <riffautae> ndagirl: #getajob
[18:21] <riffautae> fellayaboy: freenode.net has tools to search for channels
[18:21] <ndagirl> fast money
[18:21] <fellayaboy> but of course riffautae  thank u
[18:21] <Richie086> I know some channels for slow money
[18:21] <ndagirl> where
[18:21] <spartak> fellayaboy, try ##gimp and ##blender
[18:21] <fellayaboy> ah yes
[18:21] <Richie086> sorry was a joke :(  get it, slow money...
[18:22] <spartak> and ##inkscape I suppose
[18:22] <fellayaboy> thank spartak makes sense :) maybe theirs a deviantart channel
[18:22] <fellayaboy> ill check that out
[18:23] <dabukalam> command line program that displays images as ascii art?
[18:23] <c_korn> how can I fix this display bug at runtime? http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/8npl4mgo/Auswahl_001.png
[18:23] <ndagirl> divintart?
[18:24] <hc96> Hi! using ubuntu11.10. My wlan card doesn't work anymore. It uses rt61pci driver and can establish connection, but it does not get an IP-address
[18:24] <blink> there's nothing defined in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatch*
[18:24] <riffautae> dabukalam: the gimp has an ascii 'save a copy' option
[18:25] <blink> and I still get the 2 minute delay on boot: waiting for network configuration
[18:25] <dabukalam> on a server trying to view an image
[18:25] <dabukalam> (no GUI)
[18:25] <dabukalam> just to make sure it's the right thing
[18:25] <riffautae> dabukalam: try caca perhaps
[18:25] <elz89> ndagirl: http://www.mersenne.org/
[18:25] <ndagirl> anybody no any fast money channels
[18:26] <oCean> ndagirl: that has nothing to do with #ubuntu, please stop that
[18:26] <dabukalam> !caca
[18:26] <riffautae> !info caca
[18:26] <ndagirl> just lost ok
[18:26] <riffautae> ):
[18:26] <riffautae> !info caca-utils
[18:26] <oCean> ndagirl: this channel is for ubuntu technical support only
[18:26] <riffautae> dabukalam: ^^
[18:27] <ndagirl> ok sorry could u tell me where 2go
[18:27] <o0o0> hc96: some dhcp client
[18:27] <o0o0> hc96: missing
[18:27] <oCean> ndagirl: no
[18:27] <ndagirl> k respect
[18:28] <puff> I keep missing those little popup messages in the corner of my screen.  Is there any way to review them, view a log of them, etc.
[18:28] <hc96> o0o0: how would I? I did nothing to my system, it broke the internet without anything done from me
[18:28] <spicyWith> elz89: also should I be using apt or aptitude? I was under the impression aptitude is the more modern way to do it, but it seems lacking (i.e. that example)
[18:28] <Taymon> Hi, I'm trying to install MIT/GNU Scheme. It's listed in Ubuntu Software Center but I can't install it; instead I get a "Not found" screen.
[18:28] <blink> wtf, /run and /run/lock didn't exist. apparently ubuntu == LFS
[18:29] <riffautae> blink: /var/run
[18:29] <blink> exactly
[18:30] <o0o0> what is the default dhcp package?
[18:30] <bobweaver> !nounity > bobweaver
[18:31] <jtr__> o0o0: i think dhclient3 ?
[18:31] <o0o0> jtr__,thnx
[18:31] <jtr__> o0o0: not sure though
[18:31] <Taymon> "sudo apt-get install mit-scheme" produces this: http://pastebin.com/Uh1MezY9
[18:32] <jtr__> o0o0: i am not sure about its being default, i know it is a dhcp client ( as far as i know, again :) )
[18:32] <sln45> Emergency, guys. Would anybody be willing to help me?
[18:32] <jtr__> sln45: sure
[18:32] <o0o0> jtr__,thnx
[18:32] <o0o0> jtr__,:)
[18:32] <jtr__> o0o0: :)
[18:32] <o0o0> hc96: try installing this http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/all/dhcp3-client/download
[18:32] <Jordan_U> puff: No. The idea is that any application that wants to notify you of something you can't miss would use another system. That way you can always ignore them if you're busy without worrying, making them less of a distraction. That's the theory at least.
[18:33] <sln45> jtr: Thank you. I was taking class notes for myself and a deaf student and my session seemed to restart spontaneosly.
[18:33] <o0o0> hc96: srry http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/dhcpcd
[18:33] <w3bg33k> can anyone else run an apt-get update?  i keep getting errors that it couldn't resolve the addresses.
[18:34] <jtr__> sln45: okay, now you want the data back ?
[18:34] <sln45> jtr: It sent me into terminal 8, though. ctr alt f8 and not f7
[18:34] <o0o0> hc96: it seems dhcp3-client is a transitional
[18:34] <riffautae> w3bg33k: what version of ubuntu are you on
[18:34] <sln45> Yes. I need to save it. Do you think it is still running?
[18:34] <hc96> o0o0: I should install the deamon?
[18:34] <sln45> jtr: Yes. I need to save it. Do you think it is still running?
[18:34] <jtr__> sln45: yes that is how it is , i think f7 means the graphical desktop
[18:35] <o0o0> hc96: which daemon?
[18:35] <jtr__> sln45: it is, these shell windows run parallel to the graphical desktop
[18:35] <sln45> jtr: My graphical desktop is currently running in f8. Is my session still open, can I save my work?
[18:35] <jtr__> sln45: yes it is
[18:36] <w3bg33k> it's a turnkey install, running I think Ubuntu 10.04.1
[18:36] <sln45> jtr: Okay. How?
[18:36] <jtr__> sln45: you can save your work normally
[18:36] <Taymon> Can the channel hear me?
[18:36] <jtr__> sln45: what were you using to take notes
[18:36] <Jordan_U> sln45: What application were you taking notes with?
[18:36] <jtr__> Taymon: yes , sire :)
[18:36] <hc96> dhcpd is a daemon
[18:36] <w3bg33k> riffautae:  Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[18:36] <o0o0> hc96: now that i took a closer look http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/isc-dhcp-client
[18:37] <bobweaver> Hi there I am having somt troubles with th unity "tool bar" when ever anything is at its max and I scroll mouse over the section  to make it pop up  will not. also when using certian programs like quassel I hit the alt+tab to switch windows but queassel will not show up in the alt+tab thing. anyone know of a work around for this ?  thanks for your time
[18:37] <greg3000> i lost the cool effects on my windows in ubuntu unity.. any ideas how to restore that?
[18:37] <sln45> jtr: I don't think you understand. It looked like a stop gdm, start gdm. I had to login again. Going to f7 just shows some commands it took before it restarted.
[18:37] <trism> Taymon: yes, I was looking at the issue, is this a 64-bit install? there is only a i386 mit-scheme package and this doesn't seem to be installable because various deps are breaking other packages
[18:37] <tdn> Which tool should I use to strip all metadata from images? (primarily jpeg)
[18:37] <greg3000> bobweaver, interesting.. I lost the color scheme on my unity toolbar, now its just solid grey
[18:37] <sln45> jtr: I was using xournal, btw
[18:37] <jtr__> sln45: tell me the name of the application, or atleast the directory where you were gonna save the work
[18:38] <o0o0> hc96: whichever you like
[18:38] <o0o0> hc96, :daemon is ok i thinlk
[18:38] <sln45> jtr: Er, the desktop
[18:38] <jtr__> sln45: u can look for a .swp file in the directory, that should have a copy
[18:38] <jtr__> sln45: go to terminal , cd ~/Desktop
[18:38] <jtr__> sln45: ls -la
[18:38] <bobweaver> greg3000:  umm.. also when I am on quassel and I select to go to a different room it pops the terminal up O_o
[18:38] <Taymon> Yes, it's 64-bit. So I won't be able install it from the repository?
[18:38] <riffautae> w3bg33k: can you pastebin the error and your /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[18:39] <jtr__> sln45: do you see any .swp extension file?
[18:39] <greg3000> bobweaver: that's certainly peculiar behavior!
[18:39] <bobweaver> greg3000:  I know right
[18:39] <sln45> jtr: No, because the desktop is not where it saves to by default. I'm rooting around.
[18:40] <jtr__> greg3000: happened with me also, exactly the same problem, bobweaver - on maximizing the sidebar does not autohide ?
[18:40] <jtr__> sln45: so check the default location
[18:40] <jtr__> sln45: or the /tmp folder
[18:40] <sln45> jtr: I did. Nothing. Is .swp a prefix or an extension?
[18:40] <bobweaver> jtr__:  No I have to min the windows to even get to the side bar
[18:40] <sln45> jtr: Going to tmp
[18:41] <marcin> io
[18:41] <tomodachi> can some ubuntu 11.10 user with an modern nvidia card tell me if  they  have a file called libvpdau_nvidia.so in /usr/lib somewhere
[18:41] <jtr__> sln45: tmp contains a lot of things, tell me wht you were using to write notes
[18:41] <bobweaver> jtr__:  so it auto hides forever untill I min the window that is maxed
[18:42] <sln45> jtr: tmp is a mess. It wouldn't be in one of these subfolders, would it? And as I said, I was using xournal.
[18:42] <jtr__> bobweaver: i see, the sidebar has had issues from the very start
[18:42] <sln45> jtr: None of the tmp folders refer to xournal btw
[18:42] <jtr__> sln45: did you check the default location first?
[18:43] <sln45> jtr: Yes. As I said earlier, yes.
[18:43] <JetBoyJetGirl> which is the best command line program to use for appending multiple text files into one? or actually.... I'd rather not actually create a new text file but just join them all together for that action , input one after the next.... is there a good program for this?
[18:43] <w3bg33k> riffautae:  http://pastebin.com/SiU0QReZ
[18:43] <bobweaver> Is Unitys "dock"  based off any docks from the past say awn cario dock ect . Or is it on its own ?
[18:43] <nemo> tomodachi: nothing like that
[18:43] <o0o0> JetBoyJetGirl, cat
[18:44] <nemo> tomodachi: using nvidia official driver
[18:44] <riffautae> bobweaver: from scratch afaik
[18:44] <bobweaver> JetBoyJetGirl: are all the files the same ending like file.txt ?
[18:44] <bobweaver> riffautae:  Thansk
[18:44] <bobweaver> thanks ! riffautae
[18:45] <unkr> any one tell me good twitter client for ubuntu ??? cross platform ?
[18:45] <jtr__> sln45: now, i will have to think, there is a locate command which searches the entire filesystem, but
[18:45] <riffautae> w3bg33k: can you reach any sites via dns?
[18:45] <tomodachi> nemo: thanx for the help!
[18:45] <riffautae> w3bg33k: eg ping google.com
[18:45] <JetBoyJetGirl> bobweaver, yes all end in .txt , would cat be the program?
[18:45] <sln45> jtr: Again, is .swp an extension? Like, filename.xoj.swp?
[18:45] <bobweaver> haha I now when I click on a different room with quaessel it opens natalius
[18:45] <Becky_> hi
[18:45] <Becky_> my sound stopped working again
[18:45] <jtr__> sln45: yes
[18:45] <Becky_> alsamixer shows everything unmuted
[18:46] <trism> Taymon: yes, this doesn't really seem fixable, mit-scheme needs libncurses5:i386, which conflicts with libncurses5 which is required by lsb-base, which would break just about everything if removed
[18:46] <bobweaver> JetBoyJetGirl:  are they in one dir to also >? '
[18:46] <sln45> jtr: I'll look.
[18:46] <jtr__> sln45: ok
[18:46] <bobweaver> JetBoyJetGirl:  do you know what a "wildcard" is ?
[18:47] <Kenjiro> good afternoon
[18:47] <b0ot> how do I install the gnome desktop that is used in ubuntu 10.04
[18:47] <nemo> b0ot: you have a few bad options in 11.10
[18:47] <JetBoyJetGirl> bobweaver, is that the asterisk? hmm not sure i do
[18:48] <nemo> b0ot: you can install gnome-shell (which also installs gnome-panel which is similar in functionality, but not quite the same)
[18:48] <JetBoyJetGirl> i think cat is the program i was looking for
[18:48] <bobweaver> JetBoyJetGirl:  if I had say 600 .txt docs and I want all of them in one file I might try to do this    cd /the600/file/dir  then     cp -r *.txt /the600/file/newname.txt
[18:48] <Kenjiro> We have a problem here. We have a VM which was running ubuntu-10.04. Then my friend ran a "do-release-upgrade", so it started upgrading to 10.10. By the end of the upgrade he chose to install GRUB. After the upgrade he chose to reboot the server
[18:48] <b0ot> nemo, I have 10.04 server with no desktop enviornment
[18:48] <jtr__> sln45: did you find the file?
[18:48] <nemo> b0ot: you can install XFCE4, which has a lot of the same functionality, but doesn't do quite as well w/ fanciness like gnome's magic vfs, and desktop is a bit clunkier
[18:48] <nemo> b0ot: oh. I assumed you were on 11.10
[18:48] <bobweaver> JetBoyJetGirl:  back up
[18:48] <Kenjiro> now it won't boot. It stays on the 'grub>' message
[18:48] <bobweaver> 1st JetBoyJetGirl
[18:49] <sln45> jtr: Patience, the process isn't done.
[18:49] <nemo> b0ot: there's a gnome meta package I believe
[18:49] <Kenjiro> we already tried rescuing the server using the install disk and reinstalling grub, to no avail
[18:49] <Kenjiro> any tips?
[18:49] <nemo> b0ot: have you checked in synaptic?
[18:49] <jtr__> sln45: is the 'process' manual :P ? then i need a lot of patience
[18:49] <b0ot> I have no gui
[18:49] <b0ot> how would i check
[18:50] <sln45> jtr: Jesus, no. I have a slow processor, give me a break.
[18:50] <jtr__> b0ot: xfce is almost the same as gnome2, and is still supported, gnome2 ( which i think is what you are  asking for ) is no longer a good desktop env to have , no support
[18:50] <JetBoyJetGirl> yeah bob, but i was saying I didn't want a new text file, i just wanted them to be output all together perhaps to be piped into another program/command
[18:51] <sln45> b0ot: jtr is full of it, gnome 2 is great.
[18:51] <jtr__> sln45: i mean , i have many swap files but locate doesn't search for hidden files ( or i dont know if it does  using some flag )
[18:51] <w3bg33k> riffautae - hrm, i just assumed it was fine, but looks like it might be hosed...going to give it a try...
[18:51] <sln45> b0ot: Better than gnome 3
[18:51] <bobweaver> JetBoyJetGirl:  how many files ?
[18:52] <bobweaver> JetBoyJetGirl:  give or take
[18:52] <jtr__> sln45: agreed, i just mean with xfce he will have a better supported desktop environment
[18:52] <sln45> jtr: Well, let's just see. If I know what I'm looking for, than that's all I need.  I can go and google other methods.
[18:52] <nemo> b0ot: I figured you had some other ubuntu system handy :-p
[18:52] <sln45> jtr: Turned up nothing
[18:52] <nemo> b0ot: anyway, sudo apt-get install gnome
[18:52] <nemo> looks like it'll do the trick
[18:52] <ironfoot495> Hello is there someone that knows about how to change the resolution . I can't get support for a akai 42 lcd screen
[18:53] <jtr__> sln45: tell me when you find a method to search through hidden files
[18:53] <Richie086> Kenjiro: http://extremesarcasm.org/wp/2011/11/fix-grub-boot-issues-with-rescatux/
[18:53] <sln45> jtr: And xfce is nice, cute, fast. But honestly I like the customizability of gnome 2
[18:53] <bobweaver> jtr__:  in terminal   ls -al
[18:53] <jtr__> sln45: exactly my point - would give no output, doesn't search hidden files - when i said manually it wasn't abt your processor
[18:53] <Richie086> Kenjiro: worth checking out.. i had a system doing the same thing the other day and rescatux fixed it
[18:53] <sln45> jtr: I've got class, don't have time
[18:53] <jtr__> bobweaver: searching the entire filesystem under '/'
[18:53] <bobweaver> jtr__:  ohh
[18:53] <sln45> jtr: I was using nautilus with "see hidden files" shown
[18:54] <jtr__> bobweaver: not just viewing the contents of the dir :P
[18:54] <sln45> jtr: usually works, but I will try something else later.
[18:54] <b0ot> Given I have ubuntu 10.04.3 lts just with no desktop enviornment is there no way to install gnome 2?
[18:54] <bobweaver> jtr__:  is there a key word that you are looking for ?>
[18:54] <Kenjiro> Richie086: ouch, I already did a magic here
[18:54] <Richie086> Kenjiro: a magic?
[18:54] <Kenjiro> I booted the server with the install disk again
[18:55] <Richie086> Kenjiro: and it worked?
[18:55] <w3bg33k> riffautae - it looks like the dns is not working
[18:55] <Kenjiro> again I chose the Rescue option, let it mount the filesystem. Then I noticed there was nothing inside '/boot'
[18:55] <Richie086> Kenjiro: hmmm
[18:55] <Kenjiro> then I told it to mount the partition, THEN I ran 'grub-install /dev/sda' again
[18:55] <jtr__> bobweaver: a file of the type *.*.swp basically all swap files
[18:55] <Kenjiro> and then it worked ;)
[18:55] <riffautae> w3bg33k: does /etc/resolve.conf have things that look reasonable in it?
[18:55] <sln45> jtr: Do you know if there's a way listed in man tops to view that other sessions's processes?
[18:55] <Kenjiro> Richie086: magic always work with IT ;)
[18:56] <Kenjiro> Richie086: thanks anyway
[18:56] <b0ot> ok I don't see my eth0 device even though I have it plugged in
[18:56] <Richie086> Kenjiro: ah gotcha..  yeah same thing happened to be yesterday
[18:56] <b0ot> I need to get online before I can download the de anyway
[18:56] <jtr__> sln45: no
[18:56] <w3bg33k> riffautae:  nix that...we changed DNS servers, and I was too slow on the adaptation
[18:56] <riffautae> w3bg33k: :3
[18:57] <jtr__> sln45: see man find
[18:57] <bobweaver> jtr__:  is there a key word inside of the .swp files that you are looking for ?
[18:57] <sln45> jtr: I just wanted to check if that instance was even still running
[18:57] <jtr__> bobweaver: no, he( sln45 ) was using xournal to make notes and the session restarted
[18:57] <newb> My Ubuntu Oneiric do not halt if I put "sudo halt" at terminal. The "ubuntu ..." screen continues stopped....
[18:58] <newb> bad for SSH
[18:58] <jtr__> bobweaver: looking for the swap file ( if any ) which could still have his useful data
[18:58] <jtr__> bobweaver: so maybe it will be some_name.xor.swp
[18:58] <sln45> bobweaver: Got any suggestions for me?
[18:59] <jtr__> sln45: is it supposed to be like name.xor.swp ?
[18:59] <jtr__> sln45: tried man find ?
[18:59] <sln45> jtr: I thought you knew!
[18:59] <bobweaver> sln45:    if running     try this         sudo ps aux | awk '/name/ {print $2} '       this will give you the pid # of the prosses running
[18:59] <sln45> jtr: also xournal's default extension is xoj
[19:00] <bobweaver> sln45:  replace name with the program you are looking for
[19:00] <sln45> bobweaver: thank you, will try
[19:00] <newb> I forgot this info about the halt problem: KDE do not show the "halt" option too....
[19:01] <jtr__> sln45: if nothing works, i have a program that can search file by its content ( again it is directory specific and i am not sure if it searches hidden files ), if you remember what you typed  in those notes, lookup ack-grep
[19:01] <sln45> jtr: thank you
[19:01] <elz89> Does anhone have any ideas as to why my mouse pointer is a blurry block?
[19:02] <NOSaturn> ok, dumb question, where is the wallpaper folder and how can i get programs to open on my primary #1 display and not the #2 that they seem to keep opening on?
[19:02] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  /usr/share/backgrounds ??
[19:02] <jtr__> bobweaver: correct :D
[19:02] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  or kde /usr/share/wallpapers
[19:02] <philsf_> after the upgrade to oneiric, my tomboy doesn't sync anymore. Running from the terminal, I get the error: "A note with this title already exists: New Note Template". I tried deleting the new note template, but it didn't change anything. How can I fix this?
[19:03] <NOSaturn> bobweaver, oh yeah..... thast the folder
[19:03] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  :>)
[19:03] <NOSaturn> now, about getting programs to open on the correct display..........
[19:04] <NOSaturn> in unity
[19:04] <NOSaturn> gnome works great for dual monitor
[19:04] <sln45> NOSaturn: Unity is gross, I would get rid of it
[19:05] <nemo> elz89: sucky gfx card/driver?  tested in a non-composited WM yet?
[19:05] <WanderingEnder> I got "used" to Unity. Its... different.
[19:05] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  what do you mean by "getting programs to open on the correct display."
[19:05] <SimpsonTP> any know problems with empathy/telepathy + MSN ?
[19:05] <sln45> I mean, it's way better than gnome3 but it still has the usability of a mac.
[19:05] <Randolph> hi all
[19:06] <sln45> GUIs like that belong on small devices
[19:06] <jtr__> sln45: u hate gnome3 so much :P
[19:06] <NOSaturn> when i open (say settings for example) it opens on display 2, which is my right most monitor
[19:06] <SimpsonTP> I got used to Gnome3 although it stil is in beta stage imho
[19:06] <jtr__> sln45: i agree about the small devices part though
[19:06] <nemo> sln45: gnome-panel? XFCE4?
[19:06] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  ohh you have two monitors
[19:06] <sln45> jtr__: I do, I do
[19:06] <NOSaturn> yes
[19:06] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  what is vga ?
[19:06] <sln45> nemo: What are you asking?
[19:07] <Randolph> I wanted to know if it is normal that when there are some updates for Ubuntu 11.10, the user does not need to supply the root password ?
[19:07] <elz89> nemo: probs, and no, what would I do? Do you mean something like xfce or lxde?
[19:07] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:07] <nemo> sln45: alternatives to gnome-shell and unity which you dislike
[19:07] <nemo> elz89: or gnome2 + metacity
[19:07] <jtr__> nemo: haha
[19:07] <b0ot> Alright, I resolved my network issues... how do ig et gnome2
[19:07] <sln45> nemo: All those x ones are clean, fast, and I appreciate that
[19:08] <jtr__> someone help b0ot getting gnome2 up and running
[19:08] <nemo> jtr__: um.  sudo apt-get install gnome  wasn't enough?
[19:08] <sln45> nemo: Unity is too simple for a complex device and takes more power to run, so it's kind of stupid
[19:08] <elz89> nemo: I saw one the other day starting with 'w'
[19:08] <NOSaturn> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0126] (rev 09)
[19:08]  * bobweaver loves the way that ubuntu is moving forward and see the differene between 11.04 and 11.10 in unity cant wait to see 12.04 !
[19:09] <bobweaver> NOSaturn:  cool you are using the mirror option under display ?>
[19:09] <b0ot> nemo, is that unity or gnome2 for 10.04?
[19:09] <NOSaturn> no
[19:09] <b0ot> i hate unity
[19:09] <b0ot> so much
[19:09] <nemo> b0ot: gnome2 if you're on 10.04
[19:09] <sln45> b0ot, you have good tastes.
[19:09] <Randolph> Unity is quiet good
[19:09] <jtr__> nemo: :thumbs up:
[19:09] <nemo> b0ot: is just a meta package.  I suggested you try it earlier, you could read what it asks to install...
[19:09] <nemo> b0ot: that was an hour ago :-p
[19:09] <Randolph> the problem with unity is the integration with other session desktop
[19:10] <Minipluto> hiho
[19:10] <sln45> I would not mind unity if it were small and fast. It can't run on my netbook, even though that should be its target demographic
[19:10] <elz89> nemo: FYI just seen 'mutter'
[19:10] <jtr__> nemo: give him the command again, afterall its just - sudo apt-get install gnome
[19:10] <nemo> b0ot: description in synaptic (I don't get why you don't have an ubuntu desktop somewhere already to check in) is "The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components"
[19:10] <nemo> b0ot: "This package depends on the standard distribution of the GNOME desktop environment"  which I guess would be gnome2 in 10.04
[19:11] <jtr__> nemo: he has no desktop env , and using a ubuntu server , as far as i remember
[19:11] <nemo> jtr__: he said that, yes.
[19:11] <nemo> jtr__: puzzled me why that was the case.
[19:11] <Randolph> How, with 11.10, can we get again gnome 2 like in 11.04 ?
[19:11] <nemo> jtr__: guess he uses Windows on his actual desktop, and has no ubuntu live CD
[19:11] <b0ot> failed... broken packages
[19:11] <bobweaver> !nounity | Randolph
[19:11] <b0ot> gnome: Depends swfdec-mozilla
[19:11] <nemo> b0ot: could not find some packages?
[19:11] <nemo> b0ot: ah. you might have to enable some of the standard repos
[19:11] <nemo> b0ot: in /etc/apt
[19:12] <nemo> then update
[19:12] <b0ot> nemo, what file in /etc/apt?
[19:12] <Randolph> ubottu, yes, I have already done this but it is not enought there is too much to do to get again the real gnome 2
[19:13] <Becky_> my sound is fucked
[19:13] <jtr__> b0ot: sources.list i think
[19:13] <Becky_> how can I reinstall it
[19:13] <bobweaver> b0ot:  etc = config files    apt is the package manager for ubuntu
[19:13] <sln45> Becky_: W-what?
[19:13] <Becky_> no sound :(
[19:13] <Becky_> how2reinstall
[19:13] <Randolph> ubottu, sorry dude
[19:13] <ronny> h
[19:13] <b0ot> bobweaver, but /etc/apt = a directory not a file
[19:13] <NOSaturn> bobweaver, im not making any sense am i? :)
[19:13] <jtr__> Randolph: ubottu is a bot !
[19:13] <sln45> Becky: Well, you don't really reinstall. How about you install pavucontrol and mess with it?
[19:13] <ronny> anyone aware of a offline translation dictionary tool?
[19:14] <nemo> b0ot: did you install this ubuntu server? :)
[19:14] <Becky_> sln45: I already have it
[19:14] <Becky_> I'll play about
[19:14] <Randolph> jtr__, it was joke my last sentence
[19:14] <bobweaver> b0ot:  apt is the dir for the config files of well apt
[19:14] <nemo> b0ot: I'd suggest sticking w/ full desktop if you're not too familiar w/ commandline and debian in future ;)
[19:14] <jtr__> Randolph: i see , apologies, :D
[19:14] <Becky_> sln45: lol thanks
[19:14] <Becky_> hidden fucking mute
[19:14] <haylo> Becky_  fiddle witht the controls a bit ubuntu default sound is pretty reliable
[19:14] <EvilResistance> !language | Becky_
[19:14] <bobweaver> Randolph:  you can do a !thanks to the bot :>)
[19:15] <sln45> Becky_: Remember to click the green check to save any settings
[19:15] <Becky_> yeah I messed about with alsamixer
[19:15] <Becky_> but it didn't help
[19:15] <Becky_> kk
[19:15] <Becky_> tx <3
[19:15] <jtr__> nemo: he sounded like a network admin who wanted to try out a desktop env :P
[19:15] <b0ot> nemo, it appears that the sources.list file is the default... could something be preventing it from looking at the file?
[19:15] <sln45> Becky_: I think Ubuntu has been using pulse for a while
[19:15] <Randolph> bobweaver, oki doki i will think about it next time
[19:15] <Becky_> yeah
[19:15] <sln45> Becky_: so that would make sense
[19:16] <sln45> Becky_: I'm no expert though. But I'm glad to help how i can
[19:16] <Becky_> yeah, it's much appreciated
[19:16] <bobweaver> b0ot:  try  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:16] <jtr__> Becky_: try pulseaudio --kill and then alsamixer reload and then check sound
[19:16] <b0ot> bobweaver, I was looking at that file
[19:16] <sln45> Becky_: For sure. Are you actually female?
[19:16] <nemo> b0ot: I just suspect you don't have entries like the ones I messaged you, enabled
[19:16] <b0ot> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted
[19:16] <jtr__> sln45: haha  , what a question :P
[19:17] <elz89> sln45: That my friend is irrelavent...
[19:17] <bobweaver> b0ot:  you can now edit it with  :    gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:17] <jtr__> elz89: right ! democracy is gender-indifferent :P
[19:17] <Becky_> sln45: no
[19:17] <b0ot> bobweaver, I prefer bi
[19:17] <b0ot> vi
[19:17] <jtr__> sln45: :P
[19:17] <sln45> jtr__: Inquiring minds want to know! I thought no other female ubuntu users existed
[19:17] <bobweaver> b0ot:  :>)
[19:17] <nemo> b0ot: I'd suggest adding: multiverse universe  to those
[19:17] <jtr__> sln45: are u ?
[19:17] <Becky_> I'm transgender
[19:17] <Becky_> >_>
[19:17] <jtr__> Becky_: haha :D
[19:17] <nemo> b0ot: and maybe a couple of the others I'm using
[19:17] <b0ot> nemo, they are there
[19:18] <nemo> b0ot: see the PM
[19:18] <sln45> Becky_: ... And apparently I'm right, jtr__. I am the only chick user
[19:18] <Minipluto> I just encountered the confusing behaviour that the process “dconf-service” seems to generate a 20K data-write operation to the file “~/.config/dconf/user” on every caps-lock hit unter 11.10, using Unity 3D. At least, the file is not growing, but anyway I wonder whether I should write a bug report because I think that this behaviour could possibly be undesired.
[19:18] <Becky_> heh
[19:18] <b0ot> hang on let me copy it to a usb
[19:18] <nemo> b0ot: oh? they aren't in the line you pasted...
[19:18] <elz89> My girlfriend uses ubuntu :-P
[19:18] <jtr__> Becky_: sln45, doing their bit to make the channel interesting :P
[19:18] <nemo> b0ot: if you just added them, don't forget to update
[19:18] <b0ot> nemo, I have to type everything...
[19:18] <bobweaver> elz89:  mine too
[19:18] <sln45> Your girlfriend is a badass
[19:18] <elz89> sln45: you must be young...
[19:18] <b0ot> so I didn't do it all
[19:18] <kamilnadeem> HI
[19:18] <Becky_> heh
[19:18] <kamilnadeem> I am facing a problem with Kubuntu 11.10 , no sound from the system all of a sudden
[19:18] <kamilnadeem> also video file are not playing just hanging on single frame
[19:18] <jtr__> sln45: whose ? :P i have had similar issues
[19:18] <sln45> I am a mere 18, for sooth
[19:18] <elz89> hey bobweaver, long time no geek...
[19:19] <kamilnadeem> ust before it happend i got an error on mozilla that adobe flash has crashed and after that files on youtuve are also playing wierdly
[19:19] <jtr__> sln45: ubottu says advertising is not allowed :P
[19:19] <jtr__> elz89: what a line :D
[19:19] <sln45> jtr__: I'm sorry, could you clarify your question?
[19:19] <sln45> Wait, advertising? Wut?
[19:19] <elz89> kamilnadeem: roll back flash
[19:19] <jtr__> sln45: nevermind
[19:19] <kamilnadeem> ok elz89 , doing
[19:19] <jtr__> sln45: was a jk anyways
[19:20] <sln45> I'm simple, don't expect smart jokes to hit me.
[19:20] <jtr__> sln45: haha :D
[19:20] <nemo> b0ot: er. why not ssh in from putty if you are using windows
[19:20] <jtr__> sln45: point taken :)
[19:20] <nemo> b0ot: then you can copy and paste :-p
[19:20] <b0ot> nemo, how would i do that
[19:20] <sln45> On the upside, rewatching things is thrilling. I catch so much that I missed
[19:20] <sln45> Anyway
[19:21] <b0ot> nemo, I have putty installed
[19:21] <bekks> then open putty, type in the ip address and connect :)
[19:21] <nemo> what bekks said. if you don't have ssh installed already, then  sudo apt-get install ssh
[19:22] <jtr__> sln45: anyway did you get the file ?
[19:22] <kamilnadeem> still no sound
[19:22] <kamilnadeem> shall i restart the system
[19:23] <b0ot> that was too easy
[19:23] <sln45> jtr__: I'm in class, remember? I sit in the front row and it's too obvious.
[19:23] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  you have played with alsa mixer >
[19:23] <bobweaver> ?
[19:23] <jtr__> sln45: whaaaaaat??
[19:23] <kamilnadeem> not currently
[19:23] <elz89> Becky_: you still about, please do not be put of by the predatory minority here :-P
[19:23] <sln45> jtr__: I must maintain some semblance of concentration on the lecture
[19:23] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  open terminal and type in alsmixer   and play around :>)
[19:24] <kamilnadeem> had used it just after installation because I was facing the sutomute prob
[19:24] <kamilnadeem> ok
[19:24] <jason00> Question - has anybody seen 11.10 with a Realtek wireless card show SSIDs as "Unknown" at times?
[19:24] <jtr__> sln45: i see, its night-time 1 pm in my country, so amuses me , i already finished my day :D
[19:24] <sln45> jtr__: Ah, sorry. I'm American.
[19:24] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  also look under dmesg to see if the kernel sees the aound card on boot
[19:25] <bobweaver> sound *
[19:25] <jtr__> sln45: It should be 'sorry i am indian' :P
[19:25] <jtr__> sln45: please tell me you got that one :(
[19:25] <b0ot> nemo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/733443/
[19:25] <sln45> jtr__: Well, we're not the standard. But holy jujubees, it myst be late over there
[19:26] <EgyParadox> jason00, Did you try connecting manually by entering the SSID?
[19:26] <sln45> jtr__: ... Oh God, did I miss the joke?
[19:26] <elz89> The *REAL* time is 19:26
[19:26] <jason00> EgyParadox: I did not actually. :( It just confused me because here at work we have the same SSIDs across each building. One building showed Unknown for both, yet here (another building) shows them up fine.
[19:26] <jtr__> elz89: fine , but that doesn't make my sky an evening sky , does it ? :P
[19:27] <kamilnadeem> bobweaver still nothing
[19:27] <jtr__> sln45: ya, you did
[19:27] <sln45> Arbitrary starting places signify nothing about reality!
[19:27] <sln45> We are all comparing
[19:27] <kamilnadeem> alsamixer is oh , where to check for dmesg
[19:27] <kamilnadeem> ok*
[19:27] <sln45> jtr__: Damn
[19:27] <elz89> jtr__: sorry, I don't think there is a pckage for that in the repos anymore dude.
[19:28] <jtr__> elz89: ?
[19:28] <jtr__> elz89: there was never a package called makemyday.deb
[19:28] <jtr__> elz89: :D
[19:28] <pumafyre> I'm having trouble installing lxde in ubuntu 10.04 on a ppc machine
[19:28] <sln45> Lulz
[19:28] <cavaughan> Got an issue with Ubuntu. Can I ask the question here?
[19:28] <jtr__> pumafyre: what problem it is
[19:28] <nemo> b0ot: hm. that does seem complete
[19:28] <nemo> b0ot: what package(s) is it missing when you attempt the install?
[19:28] <jtr__> sln45: finally , you caught one among many :P
[19:29] <nemo> b0ot: I wanna see what repo they are in
[19:29] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  ok lets try this do you know how to use paste.ubuntu.com     please paste the out put of this     lspci -nn   ; lsmod; dmesg | grep snd      and paste to paste.ubuntu.com and give us link please thanks
[19:29] <b0ot>  swfdec-mozilla
[19:29] <pumafyre> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:29] <pumafyre>   lxde: Depends: lxde-core (>= 0.5.0-4ubuntu2~lucid1) but it is not going to be installed
[19:29] <pumafyre>         Recommends: amixer but it is not installable
[19:29] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[19:29] <zigzig> got an issue too can you hel me ?
[19:29] <pumafyre> E: Broken packages
[19:29] <pumafyre> is that too much pasting?
[19:29] <sln45> jtr__: Woah there— I'm slow, not stupid,
[19:29] <sln45> pumafyre: Make use of pastebin
[19:30] <elz89> jtr__: ahh, but there is 'shutdown-at-night'
[19:30] <pumafyre> ok sln45.  never used it before
[19:30] <philsf_> after the upgrade to oneiric, my tomboy doesn't sync anymore. Running from the terminal, I get the error: "A note with this title already exists: New Note Template". I tried deleting the new note template, but it didn't change anything. How can I fix this?
[19:30] <jtr__> sln45: i didn't mean stupid in any sense
[19:30] <b0ot> trying to install gnome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733446/
[19:30] <EgyParadox> jason00, you are scanning using Network Manager?, did you try iwlist?
[19:30] <jtr__> elz89: haha, really ?
[19:30] <sln45> jtr__: I know, I know. No worries
[19:30] <kamilnadeem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733449/
[19:30] <elz89> sudo apt-cache show shutdown-at-night
[19:30] <cavaughan> I'm logged into Oneiric everything looks fine, but if I launch any app, nothing happens. The app is actually open though. And if I go to the multiple windows view I can see that the apps are open in the 1st window
[19:30] <sln45> lol @ elz89
[19:30] <jtr__> sln45: i takes time to figure that quality :P
[19:31] <nemo> b0ot: huh. that's an interesting one
[19:31] <sln45> pumafyre: It's just a website to hold text. It's easier than trying to copy and save moving chat messages
[19:31] <nemo> b0ot: that's like... flash support?
[19:31] <cavaughan> BTW, I can alt-tab to the various apps.
[19:31] <jason00> EgyParadox: I'm just checking it out via network manager. Likewise, I forgot to check if it does it in Unity (I use Gnome Shell).
[19:31] <b0ot> haha looks like it
[19:31] <nemo> b0ot: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/swfdec-mozilla
[19:31] <pumafyre> thank you sln45
[19:31] <nemo> b0ot: and it is indeed in universe
[19:32] <jtr__> sln45: why not use an irc client ?
[19:32] <nemo> b0ot: try switching to the main mirror (or any other mirror) then updating again
[19:32] <EgyParadox> jason00, in terminal-> sudo iwlist scanning
[19:32] <nemo> b0ot: perhaps some intermittent mirror problem
[19:32] <sln45> pumafyre: No problem
[19:32] <nemo> b0ot: like, copy your sources.list somewhere, then do a find and replace
[19:32] <nemo> b0ot: you can also manually install the file from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/swfdec-mozilla
[19:32] <sln45> jtr__: The text is moving. Pastebin holds it still, and you can write more detailed instructions
[19:32] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  please let us see out put of            wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[19:33] <nemo> b0ot: just download it with wget, then  sudo dpkg -i  filename.deb
[19:33] <pumafyre> any idea about the lxde thing, sln45?
[19:33] <nemo> b0ot: whichever seems easier...
[19:33] <jtr__> sln45: i was suggesting you use an irc client, i know pastebin and why i use it, btw did you know the command line tool for it ? - it 'pastebinit'
[19:33] <cavaughan> Fixed it!!! Finally!!!
[19:33] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  also I see no dmesg | grep snd
[19:33] <sln45> pumafyre: What was the question?
[19:33] <bobweaver> cavaughan:  \o/ woot woot
[19:34] <jtr__> pumafyre: please pastebin the output of the failed command
[19:34] <pumafyre> sln45 I am having trouble installing lxde into ubuntu 10.04 on a ppc machine
[19:34] <pumafyre> jtr__ ok
[19:34] <kamilnadeem> bobweaver http://paste.ubuntu.com/733455/
[19:34] <leeping__> Hi there - I have an Ubuntu virtual machine running.  How do I configure multiple monitors on it?  Currently the display is just mirrored across the monitors.
[19:34] <sln45> jtr__: That's cool, I did not know that. I don't know why you keep referring to irc. What about it?
[19:34] <nemo> leeping__: System->Preferences->Monitor in gnome2
[19:35] <jtr__> sln45: use a client like Xchat is all i am saying
[19:35] <jtr__> sln45: suggesting rather
[19:35] <sln45> pumafyre: Sorry, I don't know enough to help.
[19:35] <nemo> leeping__: depends though. if using nvidia, you'd need to use their tool
[19:35] <nemo> leeping__: and a virtual machine, who knows what the display pretends to be...
[19:35] <sln45> jtr__: I wouldn't know enough to understand how that is a solution
[19:35] <pumafyre> sln45 no worries, neither do I :p
[19:35] <nemo> leeping__: probably intel, so that should work
[19:35] <leeping__> nemo, right, I'm not using Nvidia (it's a macbook pro).  Under monitor preferences, I'm only seeing one.  Maybe if I restart the VM it will work?
[19:36] <sln45> pumafyre: Well, if google couldn't help the forums or these guys can surely help.
[19:36] <nemo> leeping__: virtual machine probably not exposing it then
[19:36] <leeping__> nemo, that's possible.  Let me play with the settings a little more.  Thanks :)
[19:36] <nemo> leeping__: I'd suggest tech support for your VM software.  virtualbox is in #vbox
[19:36] <jtr__> pumafyre: did you try doing it with a package manager like synaptic, and pardon my knowledge , what is ppc ?
[19:36] <pumafyre> http://pastebin.com/v8gL8HvB'
[19:36] <nemo> leeping__: you might also need guest additions. both vmware and vbox have those
[19:36] <pumafyre> jtr__ I did.  Power PC
[19:37] <jtr__> pumafyre: ohh
[19:37] <sln45> What in the world is a power pc?
[19:37] <leeping__> nemo, I don't know what guest additions are.  And yes I went to the #vmware chat, they referred me to a site that told me to change the display settings in the guest OS
[19:37] <nemo> sln45: PPC - RISC chip.  Apple used to use them
[19:37] <sln45> I see.
[19:37] <pumafyre> sln45 lol it's an older computer :) it's a mac
[19:37] <jtr__> pumafyre: try using a package manager ?
[19:38] <nemo> leeping__: guest additions integrate the guest and host better. they are hooks into the guest VM
[19:38] <sln45> Ew. Well, good luck my friend.
[19:38] <pumafyre> nemo, can you help?
[19:38] <pumafyre> jtr__ I used synaptic
[19:38] <nemo> leeping__: often guest ends up w/ nicer gfx cards exposed, instead of just VGA
[19:38] <jtr__> pumafyre: what happened there?
[19:38] <pumafyre> lol thanks sln45
[19:38] <kamilnadeem> bobweaver also google+ is hanging now on chromium
[19:38] <nemo> leeping__: VM is hit or miss though. hard to get specific advice on it. for example, using moka5 over here, I ended up having to hardcode lines for vmware into the xorg.conf
[19:38] <pumafyre> let me do it again
[19:38] <nemo> leeping__: stupid vmware driver was being stupid about exposing monitor settings
[19:39] <jtr__> pumafyre: ok..waiting
[19:39] <b0ot> nemo, I added the mirror for that swfdec-mozilla package listed on that page you said
[19:39] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel   ; sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel ; sudo apt-get update ; sleep 12 ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:39] <b0ot> did an apt-get update... and it downloaded some stuff
[19:40] <b0ot> and it still wont' install gnome still failing on swfdec-mozilla
[19:40] <nemo> b0ot: ah. good
[19:40] <leeping__> nemo, thanks.  I don't think I have any hardware graphics acceleration on this host.  Maybe if I restart the VM it will work, but it's not such a big deal because I have a lot of monitor space. :)
[19:40] <leeping__> Thank you for the help
[19:40] <nemo> leeping__: anyway. definitely try vmware guest additions
[19:40] <nemo> can't hurt :)
[19:40] <nemo> but. yeah. I'm more a vbox guy
[19:41] <kamilnadeem> bobweaver still nothing
[19:41] <nemo> well. probably can't hurt ;)
[19:41] <leeping__> nemo, thank you.  I will investigate into what "guest additions" are. :)
[19:41] <nemo> take a vm snapshot if you're worried
[19:41] <pumafyre> vbox rocks
[19:41] <b0ot> any ideas now?
[19:41] <jtr__> pumafyre: \m/
[19:41] <nemo> pumafyre: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/alsa-utils   I don't see PPC :(
[19:42] <nemo> pumafyre: maybe you can find some debian maintained ppc of alsa-utils or something and install w/ dpkg...
[19:42] <nemo> pumafyre: you could try forcing the install w/o the dependency, but who knows what might not run in the app then
[19:42] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  sorry my irc client keeps crashing
[19:42] <pumafyre> http://pastebin.com/HGwZgwQe
[19:42] <pumafyre> nemo ugh ok
[19:42] <jtr__> nemo: i think amixer is alsamixer/
[19:42] <haylo> vbox is really easy in ubuntu
[19:42] <sln45> Oh man, this is so out of place but does anyone remember the name of that really small european distro of linux>
[19:42] <nemo> jtr__: right. and alsamixer is in alsa-utils
[19:42] <Sh3r1ff> b0ot: apt-cache search swfdec-mozilla --> swfdec-mozilla - dummy package for transition to browser-plugin-gnash
[19:43] <kamilnadeem> bobweaver : no prob
[19:43] <pumafyre> nemo thank you
[19:43] <jtr__> nemo: ok
[19:43] <haylo> crunchbang, i dont know a lot of them are auro
[19:43] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  reboot please
[19:43] <kamilnadeem> ok
[19:43] <nemo> Sh3r1ff: not that important for a desktop anyway. assuming you want flash, better off just using adobe's :)
[19:43] <nemo> Sh3r1ff: but, hey, if the gnome meta wants it, easier to just play along
[19:44] <the_p_> hi. i have the following problem. i have a library in some folder which i need to add to the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to run some other program for this i added the variable in ~/.bashrc this works as long as i run it on the command line but as soon as i try to run it from within QtCreator it complains about not finding the library.
[19:44] <the_p_> can you help me on this?
[19:44] <nemo> the_p_: have you logged out and logged back in?
[19:44] <b0ot> wow... so I think i can download it
[19:44] <the_p_> nemo: i just restarted
[19:44] <pumafyre> nemo, how do I force an install without a dependency?
[19:44] <b0ot> i forgot to do a apt-get install mozilla swfdec-mozilla after the sources update
[19:45] <b0ot> not it wants to install around 100 packages
[19:45] <b0ot> 189MB
[19:45] <b0ot> 146 new packages
[19:45] <jtr__> b0ot: that sounds like a reasonable size
[19:45] <kamilnadeem> bobweaver its working now, but had to do a cold reboot
[19:45] <nemo> the_p_: hm. maybe .bash_profile - since that'd be a login shell
[19:46] <Sh3r1ff> b0ot: if you just used apt-get install mozilla swfdec-mozilla thos are dependencies
[19:46] <nemo> the_p_: or you could just set it system-wide in env.d
[19:46] <kamilnadeem> it is also a prob that I am facing
[19:46] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem: good news kinda
[19:46] <jtr__> kamilnadeem: can u tell me what your problem was?
[19:46] <jtr__> kamilnadeem: i think i have the same issue
[19:46] <the_p_> nemo: i could but it should be possible without, shoudn't it?
[19:46] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  look at this post 11
[19:46] <bobweaver> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/177026
[19:46] <nemo> pumafyre: man dpkg search for force, but I don't really recommend...
[19:47] <pumafyre> thank you nemo
[19:47] <bobweaver> jtr__:  you have no sound ?
[19:47] <nemo> hm
[19:47] <Olotila> is there a command line text editor with windows-like shortcuts?
[19:47] <jtr__> bobweaver: i have no sound when i start my system
[19:47] <kamilnadeem> jtr__ the system was producing no sound and video files were hanging on single frame , audio not playing
[19:47] <Olotila> ctrl-c is copy, ctrl-v is paste ...
[19:47] <tomodachi> Olotila:  gedit i guess would do that
[19:47] <jtr__> bobweaver: i execute pulseaudio --kill
[19:47] <sln45> Austrumi! Austrumi was what I was looking for.
[19:47] <jtr__> bobweaver: then alsamixer reload
[19:47] <jtr__> bobweaver: voila! sound is back
[19:47] <bobweaver> jtr__:  what does dmesg  have to say about that ?
[19:47] <Sh3r1ff> tomodachi: gedit is not command line
[19:48] <jtr__> kamilnadeem: ok , thanks for that :)
[19:48] <sln45> Olotila: I don't quite know what you want, but we have gedit and the terminal
[19:48] <bobweaver> jtr__:  can you use sysv-rc-conf to fix that for good ?
[19:48] <kamilnadeem> bobweaver many a times when I restart or shutdown the screen dims a tinge but nothing happens
[19:48] <jtr__> bobweaver: i dont get dmesg - what is it ? and sys... ?
[19:48] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: nano works like that
[19:48] <Olotila> doesn't gedit need GUI?
[19:48] <sln45> Olotila: Gedit is a simple text editor which recognizes programming language and the terminal is the equivalent of the command line
[19:48] <kamilnadeem> I am still able to click on applications and stuff
[19:49] <Olotila> nano has like ALT-A for marking text
[19:49] <sln45> Olotila: Well... Yeah.
[19:49] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  that is a bug that is beeing hashed out that also happens to me on kubuntu 11.10
[19:49] <Olotila> windows has SHIFT arrows
[19:49] <jtr__> kamilnadeem: that is also one of my problems -
[19:49] <sln45> Olotila: Point being?
[19:49] <kamilnadeem> I am running KDE 4.7.3 and you all?
[19:49] <jtr__> kamilnadeem: you should ensure you disconnect every port and shut down every app -then it shuts down properly
[19:49] <Olotila> if you dont have gui, you dont have gedit
[19:49] <Olotila> right?
[19:49] <jtr__> kamilnadeem: i am also using the same KDE
[19:50] <b0ot> now it is failing because of gnome-desktop-enviornment and epiphany-extensions
[19:50] <bobweaver> jtr__: sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf then    sudo sysv-rc-conf
[19:50] <Olotila> sln45: like with server
[19:50] <Olotila> sln45: with no GUI
[19:50] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: yes
[19:50] <jtr__> Olotila: use vim !
[19:50] <sln45> Olotila: Well, right. But I'm sure with a little googling you could find a text editor sans frontend
[19:50] <bobweaver> jtr__:  then scoll down to pluse and un check the [x] with the spacebar and chjeck the [] in alsamixer the same way :>)
[19:50] <Olotila> how much more googling?
[19:51] <Olotila> can i not ask here?
[19:51] <jtr__> bobweaver: wait 1 min
[19:51] <sln45> Olotila: I'm just going to jump out of this conversation because I'm not helping.
[19:51] <sln45> Olotila: No, you can.
[19:51] <jtr__> Olotila: sudo apt-get install vim!!!!!!
[19:51] <Olotila> sln45: thanks anyway :)
[19:51] <b0ot> Does this mean that my sources just aren't working?
[19:52] <sln45> Olotila: Sorry I couldn't help. Many smart people gather here, they can help you.
[19:52] <jtr__> Olotila: vim is a text editor with no frontend
[19:52] <b0ot> the new source I added seemed to work
[19:52] <jtr__> sln45: :P
[19:52] <sln45> jtr__: Shh, you. I know I am too silly for this channel.
[19:52] <Olotila> jtr__: does vim have windows like shortcuts?
[19:53] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: most command line editors don't work like windows editors do
[19:53] <jtr__> Olotila: no, that needs a gui !
[19:53] <Chat5789> Hi
[19:53] <Olotila> haha
[19:53] <crassus> http://www.nixiepixel.com/
[19:53] <crassus> do you all know of her ^
[19:53] <Olotila> darn
[19:53] <sln45> Olotila: There are no shortcuts in the terminal. That's a gui thing.
[19:54] <jtr__> sln45: i am not that smart actually, i just know some thing i ran into, thats it :), and everyone doing their bit is what makes this a wonderful place :), don't quit!
[19:54] <Olotila> Ok well ...
[19:54] <sln45> Olotila: I didn't think the windows one had any. Maybe what you're looking for is a fancy terminal
[19:54] <jtr__> Olotila: u wanted no frontend , remember ?
[19:54] <Olotila> so there is not a text editor that has ctrl-c ctrl-v like in windows?
[19:54] <Chat5789> Hi
[19:54] <bobweaver> !kate
[19:54] <Olotila> and shift arrows to mark text?
[19:54] <jtr__> bobweaver: i just installed the package and i am going to do what u told, hold on a bit
[19:54] <sln45> Olotila: Oooh
[19:54] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: not by my knowledge
[19:55] <bobweaver> jtr__:  np
[19:55] <sln45> Olotila: You mean like copying and pasting, don't you?
[19:55] <Chat5789> Hi everyone
[19:55] <Olotila> yea
[19:55] <sln45> Olotila: Same thing, just add shift.
[19:55] <Chat5789> Hi kat
[19:55] <sln45> Olotila: ctrl shift c
[19:55] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: and do note that ctrl + c on command line has a special meaning ;)
[19:55] <sln45> Olotila: See?
[19:55] <jtr__> Olotila: you can use mouse in vim to mark text , and the terminal menu to paste it ( it pastes next to cursor position )
[19:56] <b0ot> Could someone help me get gnome installed: It is currently failing because of gnome-desktop-enviornment and epiphany-extensions
[19:56] <Chat5789> Any girls got kik
[19:56] <Olotila> jtr__: you know EDIT in DOS?
[19:56] <sln45> Olotila: you can also see the commands there.
[19:56] <semitones> Olotila: just use nano
[19:56] <jtr__> Olotila: yes :)
[19:56] <Olotila> i need something like that
[19:56] <sln45> Olotila: Same thing in gedit
[19:56] <semitones> Olotila: ctrl-shft c and ctrl-shift-v
[19:56] <bobweaver> jtr__:  lets also see      wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[19:56] <sln45> Olotila: Sorry, terminal
[19:56] <pumafyre> jtr__ advangated of vim over nano/pico?
[19:56] <sln45> Olotila: Just look at the menus. It's pretty self-explanatory
[19:57] <pumafyre> *jtr__ are there advantages
[19:57] <Sh3r1ff> pumafyre: vi is probably the most powerfull editor
[19:57] <jtr__> pumafyre: never used nano/pico
[19:57] <jtr__> pumafyre: they sound like small names :P
[19:57]  * bobweaver is a nano guy :>) 
[19:57] <sln45> Olotila: If you go to preferences, you can also make your terminal background transparent or give it a wallpaper. That's kind of cool.
[19:57] <Olotila> guys, I cannot even exit vim
[19:57] <pumafyre> lol
[19:57] <jtr__> Olotila: maybe nano is something you'd like to see
[19:58] <jtr__> pumafyre: D:
[19:58] <Olotila> i tried nano
[19:58] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: esc, then :q
[19:58] <ironfoot495> helo 0000 I'd like to speak with you if I can!!!
[19:58] <sln45> Olotila: Hee hee. Go to a terminal, killall -9 vim
[19:58] <Olotila> took me a long time to learn how to mark text
[19:58] <sln45> Olotila: I think that's the command
[19:58] <Olotila> my point is, these editors are from another planet
[19:58] <kamilnadeem> Thanks bobweaver
[19:59] <sln45> Olotila: You know, the Ubuntu site has some tutorials for this sort of beginner stuff. I bet they could help you
[19:59] <bobweaver> Olotila:  try them all and find the one that fits you :>)
[19:59] <bobweaver> kamilnadeem:  np
[19:59] <kamilnadeem> Will be taking your leave now
[19:59] <sln45> Olotila: Ha ha, not really
[19:59] <jtr__> bobweaver: i am removing the X's and adding Xs but there are 7 rows
[19:59] <kamilnadeem> Peace Be WIth You ALL
[19:59] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: trying something for the first time is always new ;)
[19:59] <sln45> Later!
[19:59] <Olotila> I really like windowseditors, because they all have the same keyboard commands
[19:59] <jtr__> sln45: :) bbye
[19:59] <b0ot> Vim to get started: You have multiple modes: esc: will get you to an edit area where you can do keystroke commands i or a will get you in a text editable area. Copy is y paste is p... exit is esc :q! to quit and esc : w q to save and quit
[19:59] <sln45> Olotila: They really aren't so different, I promise.
[20:00] <b0ot> vi tutorial
[20:00] <sln45> Olotila: You will learn quickly.
[20:00] <bobweaver> jtr__:  2345   <- mark
[20:00] <lordjj> what happens if I add an older repo to my software sources? That is I have 2 "canonical partners" repos (for natty and lucid)
[20:00] <bobweaver> jtr__: that is it
[20:00] <nemo> b0ot: it shouldn't keep failing like that. if you keep missing stuff, you really need to fix your apt lines.
[20:00] <Sh3r1ff> Olotila: for that you need a graphical environment
[20:00] <sln45> Okay, I'm leaving. Might come back later. Bye y'all.
[20:00] <b0ot> nemo, fix my apt lines?
[20:00] <jtr__> bobweaver: u saying i should change Xs in those rows ( add in alsa, remove in pulse ? )
[20:00] <subhash> hi
[20:00] <Olotila> thank you guys, i guess i have my answer :)
[20:00] <bobweaver> jtr__:  Yes
[20:01] <nemo> b0ot: missing dependencies over and over on an LTS
[20:01] <nemo> b0ot: I wonder if it wouldn't be easier for you just to install ubuntu desktop over the server install :-p
[20:01] <bobweaver> jtr__:  sysv-rc-confmanages boot programs
[20:01] <Olotila> no familiar commands for me in ubuntu
[20:01] <bobweaver> jtr__: sysv-rc-conf manages boot programs *
[20:01] <subhash>  i forgot my root password so can you help me...
[20:01] <nemo> b0ot: but. yeah. that stuff in sources.list - if it is not finding it, either the lines are wrong, or you have a bad mirror
[20:01] <subhash> to regain password
[20:01] <Sh3r1ff> lordjj: nothing really, installing a package will almost always install the newest package available
[20:01] <jtr__> bobweaver: alsa-what ?
[20:01] <b0ot> nemo, I need all my stuff on server... i just need a desktop gui
[20:02] <lordjj> alright
[20:02] <sln45> Olotila:They are almost all the same
[20:02] <jtr__> bobweaver: alsa-rest$ or alsa-store?
[20:02] <bobweaver> alsa rest and alsa store
[20:02] <jtr__> sln45: i thought u were gone :P
[20:02] <sln45> Olotila: at least the very basic ones
[20:02] <bobweaver> jtr__: alsa rest and alsa store
[20:02] <jtr__> bobweaver: both ?
[20:02] <sln45> Now I am!
[20:02] <jtr__> sln45: u can stay :)
[20:02] <bobweaver> jtr__: Yup
[20:03] <jtr__> sln45: classes can be boring :P
[20:03] <bobweaver> jtr__:  let me see     wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[20:03] <jtr__> bobweaver: just cross checking - 2, 3, 4 5 only right '/
[20:03] <jtr__> bobweaver: ?
[20:03] <bobweaver> jtr__:  es
[20:03] <bobweaver> Yes *
[20:03] <jtr__> bobweaver: k
[20:03] <nemo> b0ot: perhaps you could try copying over the sources.list from someone here who has a lucid desktop
[20:04] <nemo> b0ot: after backing up your existing one of course
[20:04] <nemo> b0ot: and running apt-get update after.
[20:04] <bobweaver> but for real jtr__ let me see   wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh       before reboot
[20:04] <bobweaver>   
[20:05] <jtr__>  bobweaver: it asks me to automatically upload info or not ? (Y/N? )
[20:05] <bobweaver> Y
[20:05] <jtr__> bobweaver: later do tell me what this command does
[20:05] <sln45> jtr__: Yeah. I'm just waiting for my ride now
[20:05] <philsf_> after the upgrade to oneiric, my tomboy doesn't sync anymore. Running from the terminal, I get the error: "A note with this title already exists: New Note Template". I tried deleting the new note template, but it didn't change anything. How can I fix this?
[20:05] <bobweaver> jtr__:  sure
[20:05] <Sh3r1ff> b0ot: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ --> let's you create sources.list
[20:06] <bobweaver> Sh3r1ff:  cO_ol
[20:06] <azert> hi
[20:06] <azert> there
[20:06] <jtr__> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733495/
[20:06] <sln45> Hey! I found the process number of that xournal, I think!
[20:06] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: the internet is full with cool stuff ;)
[20:06] <jtr__> sln45: ya?
[20:06] <sln45> Is there anything I can do with that??
[20:07] <jtr__> sln45: no idea, but let me give it a thought
[20:07] <azert> hi
[20:07] <jtr__> bobweaver: can u help sln45
[20:07] <jtr__> bobweaver: ?
[20:07] <jtr__> azert: hi
[20:07] <bobweaver> jtr__:  maybe give a min
[20:07] <b0ot> ssh = sweet
[20:07] <azert> when you open the terminal how to autorun 2 command ?
[20:07] <nemo> b0ot: ssh is nice for sure
[20:07] <sln45> jtr__: I realized that I have to concern myself with the time. I won't have access to my chord until a while from now
[20:08] <sln45> thx bobweaver
[20:08] <nemo> b0ot: you can also launch gui apps remotely using it  (ssh -Y)
[20:08] <jtr__> bobweaver: 'chord' ?
[20:08] <b0ot> I can't believe i didn't know it was enabled by default
[20:08] <sln45> jtr__: Looking through man find
[20:08] <b0ot> what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????
[20:08] <b0ot> lies
[20:08] <azert> for my case i would like to run cal and clock
[20:08] <azert> how to do ?
[20:08] <nemo> b0ot: if you're under windows, try winscp for file transfer
[20:08] <jtr__> sln45: won't help that much i think
[20:08] <ironfoot495> o0o0: are you there
[20:08] <Sh3r1ff> azert: create a launcher running terminal and executing the commands
[20:08] <nemo> b0ot: it requires the remote system to have X of course - so linux to linux or linux to *nix
[20:08] <jtr__> sln45: but still very useful utility to search filenames based on regexp
[20:09] <sln45> jtr__: Really? Well, why can't I find the stupid thing? It needs to hold the data somewhere, right?
[20:09] <bobweaver> jtr__:  please see post # 11             https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/177026          and change back sysv-rc-conf   :>)
[20:09] <nemo> b0ot: cygwin works under windows, if you don't mind using a crippled desktop ;)
[20:09] <nemo> less attractive too
[20:09] <bobweaver> sln45:  what is up ?
[20:09] <sln45> jtr__: Well, I'm sure that's true
[20:09] <jtr__> sln45: should be!
[20:09] <azert> how ? Sh3r1ff
[20:09] <azert> i m not used to do this kind of stuff
[20:09] <sln45> bobweaver, I'm working on finding the temporarily saved data of my notes.
[20:09] <b0ot> nemo, so I can't open something like gedit on windows through putty?
[20:09] <nemo> b0ot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced for other tricks
[20:09] <wastegas> does emerald still work with unity in 11.10?
[20:09] <nemo> b0ot: no. you would need cywgin
[20:10] <nemo> b0ot: or, you could use nxclient
[20:10] <b0ot> I have cywgin
[20:10] <Sh3r1ff> azert: depends on how you want it to run, how do you want to launch it? command line? clicking on a button? ...
[20:10] <jtr__> bobweaver: i'll take time to do that so thanks , and sln45: bbye if you leave , hope to see you here again :), atleast i do :)
[20:10] <nemo> b0ot: oh. in that case.. so long as you installed X11 for cywgin, yes, that will work
[20:10] <sln45> Satin... Satan... stab stab stab.... What the hell?
[20:10] <bobweaver> sln45:  you have looked under /tmp ?
[20:10] <sln45> bobweaver: I have an instance of xournal running somewhere and I need to save the file because the notes are for a deaf guy
[20:10] <sln45> Yes
[20:10] <nemo> b0ot: but, for simplest results, run ssh -Y from cygwin commandline
[20:11] <nemo> b0ot: of course that requires the remote system to have X11 installed for cygwin to forward
[20:11] <azert> clicking on a button what that it mean ?
[20:11] <nemo> er. for ssh to forward
[20:11] <sln45> bobweaver: Oh God, I have to go. Be back in a little bit
[20:11] <bobweaver> sln45:  ps aux | grep  xournal    <-please paste
[20:11] <jtr__> bobweaver: it says the NVDIA, while i think i have ati - hdmi <--smthing like that , will it help ?
[20:11] <b0ot> nemo, cywgin ssh... commmand not found
[20:12] <Sh3r1ff> azert: like a shortcut
[20:12] <nemo> b0ot: fire up the cygwin installer, you probably didn't include it
[20:12] <azert> yes
[20:12] <nemo> b0ot: cygwin has a package manager these days. you just need to check off ssh client and X11
[20:12] <nemo> is anyone here running lucid desktop?
[20:12] <b0ot> me
[20:13] <nemo> I'd like to see if b0ot can use your /etc/apt/sources.list on his server
[20:13] <bobweaver> jtr__:  what ? please read that link that I sent to you.
[20:13] <nemo> b0ot: no, you are running lucid server :-p
[20:13] <nemo> you said so
[20:13] <Sh3r1ff> azert: create a new item in your main menu and fill the commands you want to run in the approprite field
[20:13] <azert> i simply want that cal open
[20:13] <b0ot> i am also running desktop on different machines
[20:13] <zulax> i am having a hard time installing ubuntu on a dell mini, it pauses at "Stopping System V runlevel compatibility" on the screen
[20:13] <nemo> b0ot: omfg
[20:13] <nemo> b0ot: then why did you say you couldn't search synaptic etc!
[20:13] <jtr__> bobweaver: ya i reached the part with hdmi - sry i didnt see the whole thing ..reading now :)
[20:13] <azert> i don't know if you understand what i mean
[20:13] <nemo> b0ot: scp your sources.list over from your lucid desktop machine already!
[20:13] <zulax> I dont know how to proceed from this point
[20:13] <bobweaver> jtr__:  cool
[20:14] <Sh3r1ff> azert: in a terminal run calc or use the launcher (the thingy with the ubuntu ogo in the top left corner
[20:14] <zulax> it just says stopping system v runlevel compatibility and the cursor just blinks
[20:14] <azert> when you open the terminal by clicking on the shortcut of terminal
[20:14] <Sh3r1ff> )
[20:14] <zulax> I have tried ubuntu 10.04, 11.04 and now on 11.10, all seem to have some problem
[20:14] <azert> i need the bash prompt and also on the top of the terminal i need calc
[20:14] <nemo> zulax: from the boot disc...
[20:14] <azert> cal
[20:15] <zulax> memo its netbook so no cd drive
[20:15] <nemo> zulax: try the advanced grub prefs
[20:15] <zulax> nemo not sure how to do those
[20:15] <Sh3r1ff> azert: run cal in the terminal?
[20:15] <nemo> zulax: in recent versions, hit esc when you see the keyboard icon at bottom of purple screen
[20:15] <nemo> zulax: brings up the traditional menu
[20:15] <azert> correct
[20:15]  * bobweaver has to walk kernel (dog ) brb 
[20:15] <nemo> zulax: then go to advanced, there's a checkbox, try setting stuff like acpi off, noapic and free drivers only
[20:16] <Sh3r1ff> azert: no, open a terminal, type cal and press enter
[20:16] <nemo> zulax: might help skip bad HW detection and faulty bios
[20:16] <nemo> zulax: just an idea
[20:16] <azert> correct
[20:16] <zulax> nemo i think it does have bad harddisk
[20:16] <azert> do you see what it look when you type cal
[20:16] <zulax> but can i correct that with software?
[20:16] <nemo> zulax: ah. that could be
[20:16] <zulax> not a hardware guy at all :(
[20:16] <nemo> zulax: fsck can mark bad sectors
[20:16] <azert> how it look when you type cal
[20:16] <nemo> but a bad HD should just be replaced. it will fail eventually
[20:16] <azert> i simply that the command autorun
[20:17] <azert> i don't want to type cal each time
[20:17] <nemo> zulax: bad memory can be marked too, and tends to be more reliable over time.  you can run memtest off the boot CD to check that
[20:17] <azert> when i open the terminal
[20:17] <zulax> nemo i am on the boot line
[20:17] <zulax> boot=casper quiet splash --
[20:17] <nemo> zulax: just use the menu, is easier :)
[20:17] <zulax> anything that I could add to try to make it work at this point?
[20:18] <jtr__> bobweaver: will i have to reboot everytime ? ( to try those options ?)
[20:18] <nemo> zulax: there should be an advanced hotkey, F<something>
[20:18] <nemo> zulax: er. you *are* using a boot CD right?
[20:18] <zulax> well, i am booting from usb built from unetbootin
[20:18] <b0ot> haha I restarted and I had desktop
[20:18] <nemo> zulax: ah...
[20:18] <b0ot> except... it's blue?
[20:18] <nemo> zulax: still. should have that traditional menu
[20:18] <zulax> and i get to press tab to modify the boot options and I have no clue what htose would be
[20:19] <azert> get my point
[20:19] <nemo> zulax: erase quiet and splash
[20:19] <azert> Sh3r1ff:
[20:19] <nemo> zulax: add acpi=off noapic
[20:19] <zulax> nemo doesnt get to that point, stops before
[20:19] <zulax> ok
[20:19] <nemo> zulax: naw. that menu is the one for setting up grub. but whatever.
[20:19] <Sh3r1ff> azert: can you tell me what the command is to open a terminal? is it x-term? or x-terminal-emulator?
[20:20] <zulax> nemo where can i find docs on this thing like acpi=off and how to know what they are?
[20:20] <nemo> zulax: oh. toss in nolapic too
[20:20] <azert> terminal
[20:20] <nemo> zulax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[20:21] <zulax> thanks
[20:21] <nemo> zulax: faulty systems often fail to boot due to those
[20:21] <nemo> zulax: I've had that issue w/ old Dells in the past, so it is the first thing I try
[20:21] <nemo> crappy BIOS I guess
[20:21] <o0o0> ironfoot495, yes srry
[20:21] <zulax> yup, i never had any problem with ubuntu before
[20:22] <azert> the default one come with ubuntu
[20:22] <zulax> i think it could be bios problem too, now it hung up at PnP Bios version 1.0 entry....
[20:22] <b0ot> nemo, this is odd
[20:23] <Dougie187> I'm having an issue compiling openmpi with intel compilers on 11.10.
[20:23] <Dougie187> I get errors like this
[20:23] <nemo> b0ot: blue?
[20:23] <Dougie187> /usr/include/c++/4.6.1/bits/stl_uninitialized.h(118): error: type name is not allowed
[20:23] <nemo> b0ot: could be badly connected VGA cable :)
[20:24] <b0ot> I have a desktop now... but when I do apt-get install gnome it says i'm missing gnome-desktop-enviornment and epiphany something when I install those it says i'm missing that mozillaswf thing and then it uninstalls gnome-desktop-environment
[20:24] <xangua> b0ot: install ubuntu-desktop
[20:25] <staff_nowa> hello, i have problem than i update to ubuntu 11.10 my intel wi-fi 5100 don't see :(
[20:25] <staff_nowa> wlan0 don't work
[20:25] <nemo> zulax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#line-72 - btw, that's the menu I was referring to :)
[20:25] <zulax> ok, thanks
[20:26] <staff_nowa> any body can help ?
[20:26] <zulax> nemo now it stops at entry to PnP bios :(
[20:26] <nemo> staff_nowa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/842007 ?
[20:26] <staff_nowa> and that now
[20:27] <lucas-arg> hello I cant make my Kworld UB405 TV USB Stick work... using ubuntu 11.10 any ideas???!!!
[20:27] <staff_nowa> uninstall and install 10.04 LTS
[20:27] <nemo> staff_nowa: looks like there's some discussion in there of fixes
[20:27]  * nemo shrugs
[20:27] <Deltatash> Hi I have a problem with my gnome Panel was wondering if anyone could help me, I am using Ubuntu 10.4 how do I restore my top Gnome Panel to its default settings with applets and icons etc, my "Turn off" button keeps disapearing
[20:27] <Halabund> can someone please check what version of gcc is default on oneiric, so I don't have to reboot to linux now?
[20:27] <Halabund> can someone please check what version of gcc is default on oneiric, so I don't have to reboot to linux now?
[20:27] <nemo> zulax: pnpbios=off :)
[20:28] <Sh3r1ff> azert: try typing gnome-terminal -e cal in a terminal window
[20:28] <Sh3r1ff> does it open a new terminal with cal in it
[20:28] <Sh3r1ff> ?
[20:28] <tp43> My disk is too full, and I have too many kernels listed in grub, can anyone help me to delete the old kernels and to remove them from grub
[20:28] <zulax> nemo how would you find that? its not there in that page
[20:28] <nemo> zulax: that's not the complete list of kernel options ofc
[20:28] <Deltatash> anyone ? xD
[20:28] <tommi> !list
[20:28] <riffautae> tp43: you can use apt-get remove to remove old kernels.. hold on ill see how to list them
[20:28] <Sh3r1ff> Deltatash: right click the panel and click on add to panel
[20:28] <nemo> zulax: http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[20:28] <nemo> zulax: linked off of that page ;)
[20:29] <Deltatash> ok
[20:29] <lborda> Halabund, gcc | 4:4.6.1-2ubuntu5 |
[20:29] <Deltatash> then ?
[20:29] <tommi> ciao
[20:29] <Sh3r1ff> Deltatash: and then add what you want and customize i to your liking
[20:29] <Deltatash> im not trying to customize im trying to reset it to its default values etc
[20:29] <Deltatash> as it has screwed up on me and a reboot doesnt restore it lol
[20:29] <Halabund> lborda, thanks
[20:29] <Sh3r1ff> Deltatash: then customize it to how it was ;)
[20:30] <tommi> !addon
[20:30] <Deltatash> i cant becuause half the things that are missing now are not in the applet section on "add to panel"
[20:30] <Deltatash> like Ubuntu one" i can not find that was there by default and is not in the "add to panel" and the default "log out" switch is missing with it also which i can not get back
[20:30]  * o0o0 taps on ironfoot495's shoulder < did it work? > 
[20:31] <tommi> !ciao
[20:31] <riffautae> tp43: http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[20:31] <zulax> nemo thanks, looks like something is happening now, will those parameters mess something up when the installation is done?
[20:31] <xangua> !panelreset | Deltatash
[20:31] <Deltatash> thanks :D
[20:32] <tp43> riffautae, thanks so much
[20:32] <nemo> zulax: well.
[20:32] <nemo> zulax: you can make them permanent in your grub config
[20:32] <nemo> zulax: you might want to narrow down which you actually need
[20:32] <zulax> ok, well
[20:32] <zulax> now i am getting a white screen of death :(
[20:32] <Deltatash> xangua, it worked everything is back to normal as it was on fresh install :D thanks :D
[20:32] <nemo> zulax:  /etc/default/grub
[20:32] <zulax> ok
[20:33] <nemo> zulax: white screen of death... hm. that suggests to me video driver issues
[20:33] <nemo> zulax: can you switch to a VT? ctrl-alt-f1 or alt-f1
[20:33] <nemo> might be on f2...
[20:33] <arif-ali> hi, I have searched through all the forums and howtos, but unable to fix my problem, I want to use Gnome 3, but no matter what i choose atthe login, it goes to UNity, has anyone seen this problem before?
[20:33] <zulax> nemo  nop, tried all
[20:34] <xangua> !nounity | arif-ali
[20:34] <jtr__> can someone help me with this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/733521/
[20:35] <bobweaver> Is there a way to make the "dock" in unity to stay open at all points no auto hide ?
[20:35] <dasberry> jtr what were you trying to do when you got that?
[20:36] <xangua> !ccsm
[20:36] <xangua> bobweaver: configure it with the unity plugin on compiz setting manager
[20:36] <arif-ali> xangua, done that, been through the whole process
[20:36] <bobweaver> xangua:  thanks you are awesome
[20:36] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: you need to add gpg keys and some sources are not correct
[20:36] <xangua> !gpgerr | jtr__
[20:36] <mkanyicy> im trying to set wifi mode to ad-hoc but i get this error "Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[20:36] <mkanyicy>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported." how can i fix that?
[20:37] <arif-ali> gnome-panel, gnome-shell, gnome-tweak-tool, all installed, Tried looking at my drivers maybe, but nothing, I have all this working in Fedora and Sabayon already, just Ubuntu left
[20:37] <jtr__> xangua: what do i replace <key> with ?
[20:37] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: how ?
[20:37] <sln45> I'm back y'all
[20:38] <zulax> nemo this time I only removed quiet splash and now instead of installing, it has geiven me a terminal
[20:38] <jtr__> dasberry: i followed this post for resetting alsa , sorry bobweaver, trying something new here :)
[20:38] <jtr__> dasberry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1627973
[20:38] <jtr__> sln45: hey you! your ride ditched you ? :P
[20:38] <sln45> I have 20 some minutes before class. Is bobweaver still here?
[20:38] <bobweaver> yup
[20:39] <sln45> jtr__: Nah, I got where I needed to go
[20:39] <bobweaver> sln45: ps aux | grep xournal <-please paste
[20:39] <jtr__> sln45: ok
[20:39] <dasberry> jtr__ Thats what I was looking at hmm
[20:39] <jtr__> dasberry: :O, the same thing ?
[20:39] <sln45> bobweaver: The output is sav      14507  0.0  0.0   4156   868 pts/1    S+   14:13   0:00 grep --color=auto xournal
[20:39] <dasberry> Anyone in here a rails user by chance?
[20:39] <dasberry> jtr__: yea
[20:40] <jtr__> dasberry: found a solution ?
[20:40] <bobweaver> sln45:  then xournal is not running :>)
[20:40] <sln45> bobweaver: But but but that other thing said it was!
[20:40] <dasberry> jtr__: nope I am in the same boat well close to it
[20:40] <sln45> bobweaver: It has a pid!
[20:40] <bobweaver> sln45:  what "other" thing ?
[20:40] <sideone> i am trying to get netsnmp working under linux. i believe i only need snmptrapd as i just want all snmp data recieved from another server to index to a hashfile. i see the *:162 port on a sockstat, but i do not see any data in tcpdump.. i am using netcat on the other host to send udp/162 data to the host
[20:40] <bobweaver> that is the pid of grep
[20:41] <dasberry> If anyone has time I would greatly appreciate any insight on this issue I am having.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/733528/
[20:41] <sln45> bobweaver: sudo ps aux | awk '/PROGRAMNAME/ {print $2} '
[20:42] <sln45> bobweaver: It STILL has a pid. 16482
[20:42] <jtr__> dasberry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1494997
[20:42] <bobweaver> umm
[20:42] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: can you show your sources.list ?
[20:42] <bobweaver> what is program name ?
[20:42] <bobweaver> sln45:  what is program name ?
[20:42] <sln45> xournal
[20:42] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: sure, one sec, i'll pastebin it
[20:43] <sln45> bobweaver: I had an instance running in this new session and I closed it.
[20:43] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733533/
[20:43] <sln45> bobweaver: So there should be no instances in this session and one in the other
[20:43] <sln45> bobweaver: or am I wrong
[20:43] <dasberry> jtr__: Thanks I checked this out before but we will see if I can gleem something this time.
[20:44] <jtr__> dasberry: i just used google, i have no idea what you want to do ( apologies )
[20:44] <sln45> Also, I did a lot with find and came up empty.
[20:44] <bobweaver> sln45:  do just a   ps aux     do you see it running
[20:44] <jdfoote2> Hi - I'm trying to fix a problem with my SD card reader. It's a Dell XPS 8300 desktop 19-in-1 card reader. It always works the first time that I put in an SD card, but it often doesn't work after I safely remove
[20:44] <jtr__> sln45: find doesn't look for hidden files
[20:44] <jtr__> sln45: u tried ack-grep ?
[20:44] <bobweaver> sln45:  or install htop and look there
[20:44] <sln45> jtr__: I will. How do I use it?
[20:44] <nemo> zulax: WRT terminalll.
[20:45] <nemo> zulax: could mean xorg is not starting
[20:45] <nemo> zulax: vid card prob possibly
[20:45] <sln45> jtr__: Just look for the filename?
[20:45] <jtr__> sln45: ack-grep /search-dir 'text' ( with the ' ' )
[20:45] <nemo> zulax: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:45] <nemo> zulax: if possible, get it into a pastebin
[20:45] <nemo> (scp it to a machine or something)
[20:45] <sln45> jtr__: Trying it
[20:45] <dasberry> jtr__: Well pretty much i am trying to set up Ruby on Rails so I can program at work and it's giving me a hard time
[20:45] <nemo> zulax: looking for errors. failure to load driver etc
[20:46] <jtr__> dasberry: no manual for linux install on ruby-on-rails site ?
[20:46] <nemo> zulax: that's why I suggested only FOSS drivers flag when I mentioned that advanced menu
[20:46] <sln45> jtr__: DUDE
[20:46] <jtr__> sln45: ?
[20:46] <nemo> zulax: skips trying to load like faulty nvidia/fglrx drivers and such
[20:46] <maukod> !list
[20:46] <jtr__> sln45: what you got it ?
[20:46] <sln45> jtr__: XOURNAL FILES DON'T HAVE VIEWABLE TEXT
[20:46] <sln45> jtr__: No
[20:46] <bobweaver> sln45: sudo find / -name *.<type of file>
[20:46] <dasberry> jtr__: thats the problem there is a very good manual its just even while following it to a T I am getting errors still.
[20:46] <sln45> jtr__: They're vector-type files
[20:46] <jtr__> sln45: :( thats so unfortunate
[20:46] <sln45> bobweaver: Thank you, trying
[20:47] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com "HEX"; gpg --export --armor "HEX" | sudo apt-key add -
[20:47] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: and replace "HEX" with the hex after BADSIG
[20:47] <jdfoote2> Anyone feel like heling me with an SD card reader problem? :)
[20:48] <sln45> bobweaver: Wait. What extension do I use? xoj? .xoj? .xoj.swp?
[20:48] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: ok , trying , wait
[20:48] <CarlFK> how can I see what (if any) page depends on isc-dhcp-server and \bind9?
[20:49] <bobweaver> sln45:  depends on what you are looking for
[20:49] <CarlFK> or.. is there a ddns server package?
[20:49] <bobweaver> sln45: sudo find / -name *.swp        <- 1 exsample
[20:50] <sln45> bobweaver: Well, it's a modified version of a file which has not overwritten the original yes
[20:50] <sln45> bobweaver: *yet
[20:50] <MrKeuner> !firefox8
[20:50] <sln45> bobweaver: Oh, I see. Thank you. But is it .xoj.swp, or just .swp
[20:51] <milen8204> how can I change place of buttons for maximize minimize to be in right not in left corner of the windows in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:51] <MeQuerSat> Note to self: don't delete /etc
[20:51] <MeQuerSat> -_-
[20:51] <mrts> !fonts
[20:51] <bobweaver> sln45:  so you did not save the file? and you do not know what the file is or where it is ?
[20:51] <Sh3r1ff> MeQuerSat: smart plan ;)
[20:51] <mrts> how can I force reload of the font cache?
[20:52] <bobweaver> Sh3r1ff:  +1
[20:52] <mrts> if I install something with font viewer, it does not appear...
[20:52] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, I had nautilus running as root and hit Delete accidently
[20:52] <MeQuerSat> :/
[20:52] <sln45> bobweaver: I know where the original is. I was writing notes, the session appeared to restart but it opened again in f8 and not f7, and I wanted to know if I could get today's notes back.
[20:52] <learner> Hello guys, I d'like to know when do I need to run the grub-install command?(except the time I install grub) I'm confused why would I need to run it a second time?
[20:52] <sirdeiu> milen8204: use Ubuntu Tweak
[20:53] <sln45> bobweaver: So I suspect it may still be running but I don't know for sure
[20:53] <Sh3r1ff> learner: who or what told you?
[20:53] <corey_> ok how do i keep my channel nick
[20:53] <corey_> i hope it stays
[20:53] <sln45> bobweaver: I just need to save the changes
[20:53] <milen8204> sirdeiu, ok
[20:53] <learner> I will take the lpi exam tomorrow and in a simulator the question appeared and I didn't find the answer but the curiosity remained:)
[20:53] <puzzled_penguin> I'm looking to get the Dr. Web LiveCD Antivirus listed in UNetBootin. I noticed that there are several websites for it. Which one is the official one?
[20:54] <MrKeuner> I have added ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable but that somwhow does not upgrade firefox7 installed on my system. Any idea why?
[20:54] <bobweaver> sln45:  what might still be running ? what where you typing on ?
[20:54] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, except running extundelete from a livecd, there isnt much I can do, right?
[20:54] <ProxXy> Is there any need to "eject device" in ubuntu like you would do with a USB stick in Windows?
[20:54] <sln45> bobweaver: Xournal!
[20:54] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i think it did something , but didn't help the problem and though in the output of your command it said new signatures : 1 , the hex numbers in the errors did not change
[20:55] <riffautae> MrKeuner: prolly need to uninstall the ubuntu provided firefox and install theirs
[20:55] <puzzled_penguin> I'm looking to get the Dr. Web LiveCD Antivirus listed in UNetBootin. I noticed that there are several websites for it. Which one is the official one?
[20:55] <bobweaver> sln45: open system monitor is it running ?
[20:55] <MrKeuner> riffautae, I do not have ubuntu installed firefox
[20:55] <bobweaver> sln45:  or use htop or ps aux
[20:56] <SIFTU> ProxXy: yes
[20:56] <learner> Hello guys, I d'like to know when do I need to run the grub-install command?(except the time I install grub) I'm confused why would I need to run it a second time?does anyone know?
[20:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: try removing the gpg keys in synaptic before running the command
[20:56] <bobweaver> sln45:  please paste out put of        ps aux
[20:56] <riffautae> learner: did someone tell you that you did?
[20:56] <riffautae> learner: if you are not having issues there is no reason to do so
[20:57] <bobweaver> sln45:  pastebin it please
[20:57] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: in the software sources ?
[20:57] <Sh3r1ff> MeQuerSat: don't think so, try that and let us know if it worked
[20:57] <sln45> bobweaver: Hold your horses. System Monitor does not show it, hold on hold on
[20:57] <learner> I'm intrested in finding out why would I need to run the command a second time?
[20:57] <Alexia_Death> learner: when grub itself is updated its done also. or when you have reconfigured what drive boots first and needs to hae grub installed.
[20:57] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: should be a tab like authentication or something
[20:58]  * bobweaver now has horse Power :>) 
[20:58] <learner> so everytime is a change in the grub configuration?or after replacing the current kernel it would be necessary to run it
[20:58] <Andy80> can some OP please ban astegmen29 ? thanks
[20:58] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i should remove only those giving the errors right ? by matchin the hex vals
[20:58] <nemo> bobweaver: $ free -m | head -n 2 | tail -n 1
[20:58] <nemo> Mem:         15944       8978       6965          0        966       2896
[20:58] <sln45> bobweaver: Jesus, this is huge. Hold on
[20:58] <jtr__> bobweaver: :D
[20:59] <nemo> bobweaver: but. do you have the memory? ;)
[20:59] <bobweaver> nemo:  head and shoulds knees and toes
[20:59] <sln45> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733553/
[21:00] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: the ones that give the error yes, but if you should have removed a wrong one, you can add them again, no prob
[21:00] <puzzled_penguin> I'm looking to get the Dr. Web LiveCD Antivirus listed in UNetBootin. I noticed that there are several websites for it. Which one is the official one?
[21:00] <jost> hi
[21:00] <lua_> I am looking for the #ubuntu-es channel :s
[21:00] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i removed the ones giving errors , now ?
[21:00] <IngoPan> Ist das Teil gut ?
[21:00] <IngoPan> http://amzn.to/AsusEEEPad-Transformer
[21:01] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: re-run all those big hex val commands?
[21:01] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: yes, for the ones that give the error in apt-get update
[21:01] <thiebaude> puzzled_penguin, http://www.freedrweb.com/livecd/?lng=en
[21:01] <jost> is there a way to check, if there are sambe shares in use on an ubuntu box? The purpose is to make the system to go into hibernation when the shares are not used.
[21:02] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: in apt-get update it should say something about the key not being present
[21:02] <bobweaver> sln45:  I do not see it running :>(
[21:02] <sln45_> Hello?
[21:02] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: same error :(
[21:02] <sln45_> bobweaver: channel froze up, would you repeat the last thing you said?
[21:02] <bobweaver> sln45: I do not see it running :>(
[21:03] <ProxXy> SIFTU: how do i do it?
[21:03] <bobweaver> what is command to --fix-missing  or --fix-broken   repos ?
[21:03] <sln45_> bobweaver: me neither. Aaagh. brb
[21:04] <SIFTU> jost: you could probably script it
[21:04] <SIFTU> jost: lsof -Pnl +M -i4
[21:04] <salehi1> how can use "send to all" in pidgin?
[21:04] <SIFTU> jost: then would on the output with sed/awk etc
[21:04] <bobweaver> dpkg --fix-missing    or is it apt ?
[21:04] <SIFTU> ProxXy: I belive there is an eject button int he filemanager.. nautilus
[21:04] <asmodeus> hi...i just upgraded to 11.10...how do i get my menus back?
[21:05] <jost> SIFTU: Thanks for the hints, i'll check it out
[21:05] <thiebaude> !gnome-fallback
[21:05] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: try running sudo aptitude -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True -o Acquire::BrokenProxy=true update and then sudo apt-get update
[21:06] <SIFTU> jost: you could combine it with this script http://dl.dropbox.com/u/906920/scripts/shutdown_idle.sh
[21:06] <sln45_> back
[21:06] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: apt-get --fix-missing
[21:06] <Guest15509> how is ubuntu11.10
[21:06] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i need aptitude for that
[21:06] <bobweaver> Sh3r1ff:  sweet
[21:07] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, it restored quite some files
[21:07] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, but nothing from /etc
[21:07] <bobweaver> Sh3r1ff:  same for --fix-broken ?
[21:07] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: apt-get install aptitude ?
[21:07] <jtr__> bobweaver: i needed this command about 10 days ago - the exact same thing and i also remembered only '--fix-missing' :D
[21:07] <Jordan_U> learner: No. You should rarely need to run grub-install yourself. One example would be using grub-install to install grub back to the mbr after a Windows install clobbers the mbr.
[21:07] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: yes, apt-get --fix-broken
[21:07] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: doing that :)
[21:07] <bobweaver> Sh3r1ff:  sweet thanks
[21:07] <ErtanERBEK> hi everyone
[21:07] <ErtanERBEK> I have one problem
[21:07] <ErtanERBEK> could help me ?
[21:08] <Guest15509> how is Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:08] <krisss117> hi how to user regexp in bash script ? i use if [[ 20a110228 =~ ^[0-9]{3} ]] ; then .... then i found  [[: not found
[21:08] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: go ahead , many people here can
[21:08] <ErtanERBEK> thank you jtr__
[21:08] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, the more I screw up thing, the more I become a fan of automated regular backups xD
[21:08] <matusalem> alguien habla español
[21:08] <sln45_> bobweaver: Is there anything I can do?
[21:08] <MeQuerSat> things*
[21:08] <sln45_> matusalem: Un poco
[21:08] <Big> hi all, I have an ubuntu server and did install ubuntu-desktop on it to be able to access remotely using remote desktop connection, the quesiton is how to enable 5900 desktop using ssh ?
[21:08] <ErtanERBEK> I have many ISO file and iso file include many diffrent video file ( education, personel etc .... )
[21:08] <pangolin> !es | matusalem
[21:08] <krisss117> ubuntu 10.04
[21:09] <Sh3r1ff> MeQuerSat: backups are never a bad idea ;)
[21:09] <jtr__> sln45_: still not solved :(
[21:09] <ErtanERBEK> when time I use archive mounter for iso mount then Totem player time bar not working
[21:09] <Rya_n> I installed Ubuntu on a sepparate Hard Drive, but when I try to access my windows drive I get an unwanted grub menu. I then set grub to only display for 0 seconds, and set the Windows Hard Drive as my default boot, but now I can't access Ubuntu...
[21:09] <bobweaver> might want to look in cache and also might want to try scalple
[21:09] <matusalem> necesito instalar un programa y no se
[21:09] <ErtanERBEK> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[21:09] <sln45_> bobweaver: Are you speaking to me?
[21:10] <sln45_> matusalem: ¿Cual?
[21:10] <tanath> when i right-click items in gnome menu it runs them instead of giving context menu. did behaviour change to be dumb again, or is this a bug?
[21:10] <kedare> Hey all :)
[21:10] <bobweaver> yes nemo sorry
[21:10] <matusalem> alguien sabe como instalar perl en ubuntu
[21:10] <bobweaver> not nemo
[21:10] <kedare> Is there a way to ignore the post install script of a .deb package please ?
[21:10] <pangolin> matusalem: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[21:10] <bobweaver> yes sln45_ sorry
[21:10] <ErtanERBEK> do you have any idea ?
[21:10] <sln45_> matsulem: tambien hay un canal para usadores que usan espanol
[21:10] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: this is what i found: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html
[21:10] <BluesKaj> ErtanERBEK, use VLC to play iso files
[21:10] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: what kind of files are these? do the same kind of files allow the seeking when they are not in an iso and on your hard drive ?
[21:10] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, I think the hard reset was the cause that extundelete couldnt recover anything from /etc/
[21:10] <MeQuerSat> but we'll never know :)
[21:11] <Jordan_U> learner: When a new kernel is installed "update-grub" is run. "update-grub" is very different from "grub-install".
[21:11] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: and have u tried vlc?
[21:11] <jtr__> BluesKaj: :)
[21:11] <trism> tanath: the gnome-panel applications menu? if so, yes, they removed the context menus from the items
[21:11] <sln45_> matsulem: hacer lo que pangolin dio
[21:11] <RealPlayer> http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:11] <tanath> trism, wtf? who's idiotic idea was that?
[21:11] <dide> ciao per chi usa emesene  e non si connette ho trovato questo articolo dove spiega il motivo  http://infoliveone.altervista.org/emesene-off-line/
[21:11] <sln45_> bobweaver: I'm sorry, would you please repeat what you said?
[21:12] <tanath> trism, i'd like to add some shortcuts to the panel >_<
[21:12] <ErtanERBEK> BlueKaj, if I am use VLC then VLC give me " VLC could not read the file. " eror
[21:12] <MrKeuner> I have added ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable but that somehow does not upgrade firefox7 installed on my system. Any idea why?
[21:12] <bobweaver> sln45_: might want to look in cache and also might want to try scalple
[21:12] <RealPlayer> http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:12] <nemo> MrKeuner: um
[21:12] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__,  I try before
[21:12] <nemo> MrKeuner: if you are on ff7 already
[21:12] <nemo> MrKeuner: then you should auto-update to ff8 when the package is ready
[21:12] <xangua> MrKeuner: because there is no fx8 package on it yet
[21:12] <_joey> I can't find a popular package cedet in Ubuntu. Does anyone know a possible name for the package?
[21:12] <nemo> MrKeuner: you shouldn't need a ppa...
[21:12] <nemo> MrKeuner: what xangua said basically
[21:12] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: can u tell me the extensions of those files u are trying to play?
[21:13] <sln45_> bobweaver: Directions to cache?
[21:13] <nemo> MrKeuner: you can always just download the zip and do that. heck. I do that just to try the nightlies, since FF9+ has the new JS tweaks
[21:13] <trism> tanath: you can still alt+right click the panel, add to panel, then select the application shortcuts you want to add
[21:13] <Big> hi all, I have an ubuntu server and did install ubuntu-desktop on it to be able to access remotely using remote desktop connection, the quesiton is how to enable 5900 desktop using ssh ?
[21:13] <tanath> trism, no you can't
[21:13] <berndj> xchat logs irc. i lurk in many channels. result: ext4 hits disk every second or so. no fsync in sight, and laptop-mode uninstalls pm-utils, which breaks suspend and hibernate. what options do i have?
[21:13] <tanath> trism, already tried that
[21:13] <nemo> MrKeuner: otherwise. wait a day or two? :)
[21:13] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, I try many diffrent file and codec
[21:13] <tanath> trism, that only works for applets/extensions
[21:13] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: which one gave the error ?
[21:13] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, for example avi, mpg, wma
[21:14] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: i mean didnt allow you to seek
[21:14] <bobweaver> sln45_:  /var/cache/
[21:14] <Rya_n> Can someone help me with my stupid grub problem?
[21:14] <trism> tanath: it does work, I have several launchers in my panel
[21:14] <MrKeuner> xangua, nemo, https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable shows some 8.0 binary for ff
[21:14] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, all format give same eror
[21:14] <tanath> trism, actually, i can't even do that now
[21:14] <trism> tanath: you need to hold ALT before right clicking
[21:14] <xangua> MrKeuner: it does not show packages
[21:14] <tanath> trism, alt+right-click does nothing
[21:14] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: and have u tried extracting some from the archive and running ?
[21:14] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, If I copy this file my local disk or usb disk then working correctly
[21:14] <pangolin> Rya_n: When you boot hold the shift key and that will display the grub menu allowing you to select Ubuntu
[21:14] <Rya_n> Doesn't work.
[21:14] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: ohh. okay
[21:14] <tanath> trism, i'm not a noob ;)
[21:14] <sln45_> bobweaver: Thanks, will check. Gimme a few minutes
[21:14] <xi_> need someone help analyze this strace log to figure out why it takes high cpu usage
[21:15] <xi_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43017476/strace.log
[21:15] <bobweaver> sln45_:  locate cache | grep <NAME>
[21:15] <pangolin> Rya_n: try tapping the shift key
[21:15] <tanath> trism, actually, i find alt+right-click rarely works
[21:15] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, I try same iso file with gmount, if I use gmount working correctl
[21:15] <nemo> MrKeuner: if you check the packages page it says "pending publication" :)
[21:15] <nemo> MrKeuner: I strongly suspect once it is published you'll get it w/o the need for the PPA
[21:15] <tanath> trism, and it's a stupid idea anyway
[21:15] <krisss117> have u any idea ?
[21:16] <Rya_n> pangolin: But the timeout is set to 0. I'd think it wouldn't even check for the shift key...
[21:16] <krisss117> hi how to user regexp in bash script ? i use if [[ 20a110228 =~ ^[0-9]{3} ]] ; then .... then i found  [[: not found
[21:16] <tanath> trism, making it so you have to hold alt first, that is
[21:16] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: which one were you using prior to this ?
[21:16] <AxonetBE> if I use If I have this crontab, 0 0 10 11 * /root/end_of_sales.sh, it will run this night right?
[21:16] <nemo> MrKeuner: PPA is more for the 10.10 folks
[21:16] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: before gmount?
[21:16] <MrKeuner> nemo, i am 10.04
[21:16] <nemo> or 10.04, whateva
[21:16] <pangolin> Rya_n: you have to start hitting shift as soon as you power on the machine
[21:16] <trism> tanath: yes, I do agree, they got a bit alt-happy in gnome 3
[21:17] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, I try two system same time and one by one
[21:17] <sln45_> bobweaver: There is a lot of stuff in var cache.
[21:17] <sln45_> bobweaver: Should it just be hanging out, or is it in a subfolder?
[21:17] <bobweaver> sln45_:  that is why you grep it down :>)
[21:18] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, for example first try archive mounter after umount and remount with gmount
[21:18] <sln45_> bobweaver: I'm nervous it won't be named like I assume it will
[21:18] <sln45_> bobweaver: trying
[21:18] <Rya_n> pangoli: I'll try. Also, I was getting the grub menu when I choose to boot from my Windows HDD, and I couldn't boot from my Ubuntu HDD. This means that grub is installed on my Windows hard drive, right? Is there a way I could only make the grub menu come up when I boot into my Ubuntu HDD?
[21:18] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: then use gmount i think, if it works there :)
[21:18] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, gmount working good
[21:18] <jtr__> sln45_: u can try ack-grep for the content u typed in, you can be sure of that
[21:19] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, but ı can't umount with GUI :d
[21:19] <bobweaver> sln45_: locate cache | grep Xournal   or xournal
[21:19] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, there is an upside: I screwed up so many times, I can install ubuntu very fast now :)
[21:19] <matusalem> es una pagina web de español
[21:19] <krisss117> hi how to user regexp in bash script ? i use if [[ 20a110228 =~ ^[0-9]{3} ]] ; then .... then i found  [[: not found
[21:19] <krisss117> ??
[21:19] <krisss117> please
[21:19] <krisss117> give me a simple example
[21:19] <krisss117> or say what i can check
[21:19] <Sh3r1ff> MeQuerSat: should try not to screw up though ;)
[21:19] <sln45_> bobweaver: Wait, what? I'm not looking for a file?
[21:19] <matusalem> es una pagina web en español
[21:20] <SwedeMike> !es | matusalem
[21:20] <daviddoria> My Software Center is missing the search box in the top right: http://daviddoria.com/Uploads/SoftwareCenter.png - is there a way to get it to be displayed?
[21:20] <Rya_n> pangolin: "Caution: Holding down the "SHIFT" key will not display the menu if "GRUB_TIMEOUT=" is set to "0" ."
[21:20] <bobweaver> krisss117:  this is arthimic (math )
[21:21] <jtr__> krisss117: i think ask on some other channel
[21:21] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, When time I use gmount easly mount my iso file and I can use time bar with totem but I can't umount on natilus gui. Natilus says me " You need root permision " :d
[21:21] <SIFTU> krisss117: try in ##awk or ##sed depending on what you are using
[21:21] <pangolin> Rya_n: where did you see that?
[21:21] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: then type sudo and run it from terminal
[21:21] <MeQuerSat> Sh3r1ff, yeah that would be better, wouldnt it :P
[21:21] <Rya_n> pangolin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[21:21] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: sudo umount
[21:22] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, yes this is a way, But Ubuntu support GUI right. So why I need terminal :)
[21:22] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, you can run this from terminal to unmount it: "sudo umount /path/to/your/folder"
[21:22] <krisss117> ok thanks
[21:22] <bobweaver> krisss117:  there is also #bash
[21:22] <ErtanERBEK> MeQuerSat, Thenk you for suggestion. I am useing this way now. But Why I need ?
[21:22] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, does gmount ask for you password?
[21:23] <MeQuerSat> your*
[21:23] <ErtanERBEK> MeQuerSat, not
[21:23] <ErtanERBEK> MeQuerSat, sorry I mean "no"
[21:23] <pangolin> Rya_n: it works for me, not sure what to tell you.
[21:23] <tanath> MeQuerSat, if you want to mount isos without password, use nautilus or acetoneiso
[21:23] <MeQuerSat> thats weird, if gmount does not ask for password, then you shouldnt need root privileges to unmount again
[21:24] <MeQuerSat> tanath, I dont, Im just trying to help someone out ;)
[21:24] <tanath> ok
[21:24] <ProxXy> thanks SIFTU
[21:24] <ErtanERBEK> MeQuerSat, because I am already wrx permision give mount directory for my user
[21:24] <RealPlayer> http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:24] <bobweaver> spam ??
[21:24] <jtr__> RealPlayer: :S
[21:24] <sln45_> bobweaver: Did you respond and I missed it?
[21:24] <sln45_> jtr__: EW REALPLAYER
[21:25] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, you can file a bug and see if anyone else experiences the same with gmount and nautilus
[21:25] <bobweaver> you are looking for the text that you where wrighting
[21:25] <RealPlayer> http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:25] <RealPlayer> http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:25] <FloodBot1> RealPlayer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <jtr__> sln45_: suckers i tell you
[21:25] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, MeQuerSat how I can change arcihve mounter configiration
[21:26] <sln45_> jtr__: Why does anyone use it? Ever? It's such a pain.
[21:26] <sln45_> jtr__: No support, not a superior format. WHY
[21:26] <jtr__> sln45_: what ? realplayer?
[21:26] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, MeQuerSat why I says this, Because If I am use archive mounter then archive mounter mount my ISO file network side
[21:26] <MeQuerSat> if gmount doesnt have a preferences option, you cant  configure it
[21:26] <bobweaver> sln45_ I am sorry but I have done all that I know off I am sure that someone else can help you out. I am not that good in Data recovery sorry :>)
[21:26] <F13R1> !cc
[21:26] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, MeQuerSat I think problem fountain this is
[21:26] <sln45_> jtr__: That's what we're talking about
[21:26] <sln45_> bobweaver: Thanks, I'll do what I can.
[21:27] <F13R1> is  alive  that  server pcirc
[21:27] <F13R1> ?
[21:27] <jtr__> sln45_: because .rm works best with it i think  , other players dont support it so well , i see animes ( bleach and the kind ) , in vlc , a .rm will work but u can't seek a particular position
[21:27] <jtr__> sln45_: atleast that was the case with the version of vlc i used ( to be precise )
[21:28] <Hanmac> hay, where can i change my default file manager? it opens Filelight and i does not want that
[21:28] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, MeQuerSat I think If I can change archive mounter mount point then all system working good
[21:29] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, give it a try :)
[21:30] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, MeQuerSat but how to change archive mounter configiration file :D I can't found in my computer
[21:31] <bobweaver> In everyones HO  what is the best way to backup everything a tar ball then sent off to servers or dvd or what not? a zip file ? or some sort of gun ? I think that it is time for me to learn how to back up and use cron jobs (I think they are called ) to do this on a weekly base. What do all of you do for backup ? Just home folders ? thanks for your time.
[21:31] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: dpkg -L package gives you all the files of that package
[21:32] <sln45_> Go away, RealPlayer
[21:32] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: i only backup my folder and some modified configuration files
[21:32] <pdq> bobweaver, i use rsync to backup.
[21:32] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: my home folder that is
[21:32] <Soul_Sample> I'm having awful performance issues with dragging windows under 11.10 with nvidia proprietary drivers. compiz works fine, all effects are speedy and snappy (I don't have many enabled either way), but window dragging is unusable
[21:33] <riffautae> bobweaver: another vote for rsync, also check out rdiff
[21:33] <nemo> Soul_Sample: I had that issue due to window shadows.
[21:33] <nemo> when I disabled them, everything was fine
[21:33] <bobweaver> pdq:  Sh3r1ff  do you use cron jobs and tar then rsync ?
[21:33] <nemo> WAG, blur being done in software?
[21:33] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, you can search for the package in synaptic and rightclick->properties-> Installed files
[21:33] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: rsync, like already suggested ;)
[21:33] <jtr__> sln45_: bobweaver, sorry got disconnected
[21:33] <riffautae> bobweaver: rsync works best if its the first stage
[21:34] <RealPlayer> to do part time jop in net ..... see this .....http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:34] <Soul_Sample> nemo - what I find confusing is that the problem is not consistent, it goes away periodically
[21:34] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat this is my packet list
[21:34] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, rsync works wonderfully here :)
[21:34] <sln45_> jtr__: Nees me?
[21:34] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat this is my packet list " http://paste.ubuntu.com/733592/ "
[21:34] <bobweaver> riffautae:  Sh3r1ff got any scripts that you would like to share :>) Please ...
[21:34] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat sorry
[21:34] <sln45_> RealPlayer: You can post that junk on gnome-look.org
[21:34] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, you dont really need much for rsync
[21:34] <sln45_> RealPlayer: This channel is not where it belongs
[21:35] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[21:35] <jtr__> sln45_: if you have some time off,  this will not be related to #ubuntu
[21:35] <bobweaver> I have a private server well a bunch of them  thanks MeQuerSat that is awesome of you :>)
[21:35] <sln45_> jtr__: What will not be related?
[21:35] <jtr__> no ops there to kick RealPlayer?
[21:35] <sln45_> jtr__: The RealPlayer stuff?
[21:35] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: for which package are you trying to find the configuration file?
[21:36] <jtr__> sln45_: the conversation , thats what i meant when i said - 'mind if i pm ' !
[21:36] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat I try find
[21:36] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: package?
[21:36] <bobweaver> You dont have to tar or anything this is flippin awesome !!!
[21:36] <riffautae> bobweaver: one idea is to write a script that reads directories in from a text file and rsyncs them to a remote server. just run the script often with cron
[21:36] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, Im running a private server here at home too. Just got rsync up today, one click from my laptop and I have all my files backed up :o
[21:36] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat I am not try search packet, I need conf file location
[21:36] <sln45_> jtr__: I'm sorry, I'm still in class. You want my e-mail?
[21:36] <Hanmac> at gnome3 where can i change the default file manager? :(
[21:36] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: conf file of which application?
[21:36] <jtr__> sln45_: okay, pm
[21:36] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat archive mounter
[21:36] <riffautae> bobweaver: it also supports making diff backups and using hardlinks for unchanged files
[21:37] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, they will show the conf file of your application too ;)
[21:37] <sln45_> jtr__: Wait, what?
[21:37] <riffautae> bobweaver: that means restores are a simple [s]cp away
[21:37] <bobweaver> MeQuerSat:  riffautae you guys/girls/whatever are AWESOME
[21:37] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: use dpkg -L file-roller
[21:37] <jtr__> sln45_: gimme the email in a 'pm'/query , 'pm' = private msg
[21:37] <riffautae> bobweaver: it can also generate tar files and such. diffs or full. i use it on my minecraft server
[21:38] <sln45_> jtr__: I don't know how. Directions?
[21:38] <jtr__> sln45_: try right clicking on my nick, and see if you have a 'query' option
[21:38] <bobweaver> riffautae:  you are talking about alais in bashrc (script)on a cron  -> rsync->my server ?
[21:39] <riffautae> bobweaver: no just use crontab and tell it to run the script every day
[21:39]  * bobweaver is not that sure about cron time to google 
[21:39] <RealPlayer> to win monay enter here <<<<http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:39] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat why I need archive mounter conf file ? Because If I use Archive Mounter , Archive mounter mount my ISO file our computer network side. I think problem fountain it is. If I change archive mounter mount point then everything working properly
[21:39] <RealPlayer> to win monay enter here <<<<http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:39] <riffautae> !cron | bobweaver
[21:40] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: you lost me, weren't you looking to find a configuration file?
[21:40] <Rya_n> Can someone check out my thread?: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331
[21:40] <gabriella> ciao
[21:40] <Rya_n> Wrong link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878356
[21:40] <gabriella> !lista
[21:40] <Neldogz> is there a Linux command line equivalent of the Windows Robocopy /MIR ?
[21:40] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat and Archive Mounter not a packet I think it is only expansion packet
[21:40] <MeQuerSat> Can someone ban RealPlayer ?
[21:40] <ikonia> it's done
[21:40] <riffautae> Rya_n: which one? i think you sent the wrong link
[21:41] <Rya_n> This one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878356
[21:41] <zenmaster> Whats up guys.
[21:41] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat for natilus
[21:41] <guntbert> zenmaster:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:41] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat and sorry my bad englis
[21:41] <zenmaster> So I am trying to get my Team Fotress 2 server up. And I think one of my compiler libraries might be out of date.
[21:41] <gabriella> how can i do for descarg file???
[21:41] <zenmaster> guntbert: Yes please allow me the time to type it.
[21:41] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: let me understand what it is that you want, no its not the english dear
[21:41] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: use a live cd to change grub config
[21:42] <zenmaster> guntbert: Since you were so quick to jump? My question is, how does one go about updating GLIBC? Or in this case EGLIBC.
[21:42] <Rya_n> what about my second qestion?
[21:42] <riffautae> Rya_n: yes grub is installed on the windows hdd, you can install it on the ubuntu hdd or leave it as is and use escape to bring up grub but keep it hidden otherwise
[21:42] <ikonia> zenmaster you don't update glibc - it's critical not to
[21:42] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: and grub is installed in your master boot record
[21:42] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat I want mount my ISO file in computer side with archive mounter
[21:42] <gabriella> sorry for my english i want to how to share films
[21:42] <zenmaster> ikonia: So I did this "apt-get install build essential".
[21:42] <Rya_n> sh3r1ff: My MBR is on my Windows hard drive, right?
[21:42] <ikonia> zenmaster that's just installing compiler tools, nothing to do with glibc
[21:42] <riffautae> gabriella: piracy or stream to a nother comp?
[21:43] <zenmaster> ikonia: According to the Team Fortress 2 wiki, I need GLIBC version at least 2.3.2
[21:43] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: that depends of how the disks are connected, but it could be yes
[21:43] <ikonia> zenmaster: ok ? and ?
[21:43] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: but that is no problem for windows if it is
[21:43] <zenmaster> I recently installed Ubuntu server 11.10 and when I did a version check, mine was older then that.
[21:43] <gabriella>  the last films . how do MIRC in windows...
[21:43] <dide> ciao per chi usa emesene  e non si connette ho trovto questo articolo dove spiega il motivo  http://infoliveone.altervista.org/emesene-off-line/
[21:43] <ikonia> zenmaster ok - so you can't use it then
[21:43] <Rya_n> How do I make it so GRUB only comes up when I choose my Ubuntu hard drive in the BIOS?
[21:43] <zenmaster> ikonia: And would be were you gave me a positive lead in how to fix this situation.
[21:44] <ikonia> zenmaster you can't - you don't update glibc
[21:44] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: that is not what bios is for
[21:44] <pangolin> gabriella: we do not provide support for illegal activities.
[21:44] <sumpter> how do I find out where my cdrom drive is?
[21:44] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat Archive mounter mount my ISO file network side now so VLC player can't found video file and totem player time bar not working
[21:44] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: you'll have to choose it with grub
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: only install grub on that HD
[21:44] <zenmaster> ikonia: So what you are telling me is that there are no TF2 servers running on Ubuntu server 11.10 in the world right now?
[21:44] <ikonia> zenmaster: if software is not backward compatible, that is the software issue, you contact the software vendor and ask them to fix it for backwards compatability
[21:44] <riffautae> gabriella: if you are talking about illegal file sharing that is off topic, if you just want dcc or something for irc try xchat or irssi
[21:44] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: i see
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: if you have a windows HD and a linux HD, just install grub on the linux one. no problem
[21:44] <ikonia> zenmaster if it requires a version of glibc that is not shipped with ubuntu, yes
[21:44] <Rya_n> nemo: I thought I did....
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: I do that myself.
[21:44] <Neldogz> anyone familiar with rsync? is there a tool better than that to mirror data to a directory or drive?
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: not that I ever *use* the windows HD
[21:44] <zenmaster> ikonia: Thank you that is all that I was asking.
[21:45] <sumpter> how do I find out where my cdrom drive is?
[21:45] <zenmaster> ikonia: A definite answer. :)
[21:45] <nemo> Rya_n: if it is showing up for both you accidentally installed it on both then ;)
[21:45] <gabriella> ok..... so if want to see the last view ???? i can't????
[21:45] <riffautae> Neldogz: rsync is very good at that
[21:45] <zenmaster> ikonia: How ever I don't believe it and will continue my reasearch.
[21:45] <riffautae> gabriella: sorry, what do you mean by 'last view'
[21:45] <nemo> Rya_n: just boot into windows. there are windows boot loader reinstallers for windows
[21:45] <Rya_n> nemo: When I was installing Ubuntu, I only chose the separate HD.
[21:45] <nemo> Rya_n: if you really want that...
[21:45] <Neldogz> excellent, thank you riffautae
[21:45] <riffautae> Neldogz: i think the archive option is what you want
[21:45] <ikonia> zenmaster waste your time and damage your machine then, don't come asking for help if you don't want the answer
[21:45] <sumpter> I'm trying to install Neverwinter Nights 1 but I need to know the cdrom directory, I can't seem to find it
[21:46] <riffautae> Neldogz: saves file permissions, ownership and so on
[21:46] <nemo> Rya_n: the other possibility is you aren't actually picking the right HD, or maybe the bootloader is misssing on the windows HD so it is failing over to the ubuntu one
[21:46] <nemo> *shrug*
[21:46] <carlo> ciao a tutti
[21:46] <carlo> !list
[21:46] <Neldogz> i really appreciate your help, thank you riffautae
[21:46] <gabriella> for example the films first view
[21:46] <Rya_n> nemo: If I boot into Ubuntu, uninstall GRUB, will my Windows still boot?
[21:47] <EvilResistance> Rya_n:  if you want to keep ubuntu too, then no
[21:47] <sln45_> jtr__: I saw nothing about "query." How about I just give you my e-mail? Are these logged for a long time?
[21:47] <pangolin> gabriella:this is not a file sharing channel.
[21:47] <sumpter> I'm trying to install Neverwinter Nights 1 but I need to know the cdrom directory, I can't seem to find it
[21:47] <riffautae> gabriella: the main menu such as on a dvd? i dont think the built in media player supports dvd menus
[21:47] <zenmaster> ikonia: Where did that come from? This is a hobby for me obviously. As I am talking about a game server. And to me learning is not wasting time. I just fail to believe in a operating system so popular would have such a huge disadvantage to such a popular game...
[21:47] <sumpter> anyone know where that is?
[21:47] <EvilResistance> Rya_n:  GRUB is necessary to pick between opeorating systems.  Depending on where GRUB installed to, you might not be able to uninstall grub cleanly
[21:47] <riffautae> gabriella: try mplayer or vlc
[21:47] <jtr__> i'll send u a private message , see when it pops up
[21:47] <nemo> Rya_n: no
[21:47] <zenmaster> But I understand. I'm not a Linux guy. I'm more of a Unix person myself.
[21:47] <sumpter> I tried /media/cdrom, but it didn't work
[21:47] <nemo> Rya_n: that's a baaaad thing to do
[21:47] <zenmaster> Now let me get the last laugh.
[21:48] <zenmaster> Have a great day.
[21:48] <ikonia> zenmaster again if you don't want to know/accept the answer, why bother asking, just keep researching/wasting your time on how to wreck your machine
[21:48] <nemo> Rya_n: you need to reinstall the windows bootloader. just boot into windows
[21:48] <nemo> Rya_n: grub should already have a boot entry for windows
[21:48] <hammommah> hello all :) how are we this ,morning? quick questions i was copying my media from fat to ext4 and drive filled up woopsie... so i cleared some room and i want to continue from where i left off. whats my best option? lots of folders so i dont know ecaxtly where it was up too... is there a sync function to sync both drives or folders?
[21:48] <sumpter> how do I find out where my cdrom drive is?
[21:48] <sumpter> the directory i mean
[21:48] <nemo> Rya_n: oh. I just thought of another possibility. if you are really noob, maybe you installed ubuntu on the windows HD :)
[21:48] <riffautae> hammommah: rsync can mirror dirs and will resume safely
[21:48] <jtr__> sln45_: got my message ?
[21:48] <Rya_n> nemo: It does, but the thing is I set its timeout to 0 thinking I could then just choose the Ubuntu hard drive from bios to boot... and no I didn't install it on windows, lol.
[21:49] <princej88> Hi, I just did a new ubuntu installation on my desktop and I was trying to isntall fglrx drivers and it tells me it can't install and to check jockey.log
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: oh. no problem
[21:49] <Sh3r1ff> sumpter: cat /etc/fstab
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: you can change the timeout from inside ubuntu
[21:49] <sln45_> jtr__: No. I wouldn't know how to check it
[21:49] <sumpter> thanks
[21:49] <princej88> I couldn't find anything that I could understand in there. any help?
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: /etc/default/grub
[21:49] <hammommah> riffautae, whats the syntax for rsysnc or will i ask google :)
[21:49] <Rya_n> nemo: I can't boot into Ubuntu, lol.
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: ??? why?
[21:49] <ErtanERBEK> sumpter, check /media
[21:49] <ErtanERBEK> sumpter, If you mount any media then you can check /media
[21:49] <jtr__> sln45_: look for the list of channels , it should be right there ( it'll bear my nick )
[21:50] <Rya_n> nemo: It doesn't boot if I just choose the Ubuntu hard drive. It's dependant on GRUB that seems to be on my Windows harddrive.
[21:50] <sumpter> it won't work
[21:50] <riffautae> hammommah: its a little finikey i would suggest looking for a simple tutorial. the wiki has a really basic one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[21:50] <sumpter> it needs the device
[21:50] <sumpter> as in the actual drive
[21:50] <Rya_n> nemo: And I set GRUB timeout to 0, and Windows as default boot. lol
[21:50] <sln45_> jtr__: I don't know how to do that and my battery is dying
[21:51] <jtr__> sln45_: gimme your email, mine is pratik.sajnani@gmail.com
[21:51] <nemo> Rya_n: you can set grub up again from an ubuntu CD. no big deal
[21:51] <sumpter> @Sh3r1ff thanks that worked
[21:51] <Rya_n> nemo: yeah, I know. I'll have to burn one. But can't I freeze grub somehow? I tried holding SHIFT on boot, but nothing happened.
[21:52] <Sh3r1ff> sumpter: np
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: if you're fast enough, any keystroke should freeze it
[21:52] <nemo> but 0s is 0s
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: that's just silly
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: even on systems where I know they'll never use the grub menu, I still just set it to 1s
[21:52] <riffautae> i just noticed something on this wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[21:52] <Neldogz> does anyone here know what to change in grub so that while ubuntu is booting we can see services turning on and checks etc with an OK or fail status?
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: gotta say, you kinda deserve this one :-p
[21:52] <riffautae> they use sudo to copy files with rsync between files in the home dir, thats pretty odd
[21:52] <Iszak> Where would I go to talk about specific hardware/laptops that use Ubuntu?
[21:52] <nemo> Neldogz: edit the kernel boot line, and remove quiet and splash
[21:53] <carlo> ciao
[21:53] <Neldogz> nemo, I did that already and all i see is a purple screen while the machine is booting.. so then i went ahead and added noquiet and nosplash and same thing
[21:53] <Rya_n> nemo: For some reason I thought choosing a completely separate Hard drive when isntalling Ubuntu, my Windows hard drive would be unaffected.
[21:53] <riffautae> Iszak: if you have problems or want info on which ones are supported you can ask here or try the forum
[21:53] <riffautae> !hcl
[21:53] <nemo> Neldogz: ehm. a bit skeptical there. if you really removed quiet and splash you should not see a purple screen
[21:53] <nemo> Neldogz: maybe you did it wrong
[21:54] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat do you have any idea or suggestin for my problem
[21:54] <Rya_n> nemo: If I wanted to only use GRUB when choosing my Ubuntu hard drive, how would I do that?
[21:54] <fgro> hi. i'd like to make a full system backup of my ubuntu based trisquel system. what tool should i use? i know there is rsync. but i'm looking for something gui friendly for non-proficient user. deja dup does not support full system back up, does  it?
[21:54] <fgro> https://answers.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+question/151349
[21:54] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, not really, sorry
[21:54] <DrMax_> question: is there a Ubuntu-specific guideline document to describe where to put user-specific stuff? (or, why is that that Trash is in ~/.local/shared/Trrash ?)
[21:54] <Neldogz> nemo, this is possible.. I will research some more. Thanks!
[21:54] <nemo> Rya_n: to repeat what I said... just install grub on the ubuntu HD
[21:54] <nemo> Rya_n: then reinstall the windows bootloader on the windows HD
[21:54] <hammommah> riffautae, thanks chief
[21:54] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat no problem, Thank you for your interasting
[21:55] <jtr__> sln45_: there at all?
[21:55] <nemo> Neldogz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:55] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub ?
[21:55] <riffautae> DrMax_: the free desktop specification should match ubuntu
[21:55] <sln45_> jtr__: Yes. I'll email you. got to go, Goodbye!
[21:55] <riffautae> DrMax_: well, vice versa but you get the idea
[21:55] <Younder> hi all
[21:55] <nemo> Rya_n: but grub is more flexible than the windows bootloader IMO, I think you should just have it on both if you plan to use both a lot
[21:55] <jtr__> sln45_: okay :) , use your nick as a subject so i know :)
[21:56] <Rya_n> nemo: Sorry. So when installing grub it will give me the option, or...
[21:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: already gone ;)
[21:56] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: after i used tab to complete the nick :-|
[21:56] <nemo> Rya_n: yes
[21:56] <nemo> Rya_n: grub setup lets you pick which HDs/partitions to install it to
[21:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: try to type faster ;)
[21:57] <nemo> Rya_n: nice graphical thing w/ checkboxes
[21:57] <Younder> question?
[21:57] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: haha :D
[21:57] <carlo> list
[21:57] <DrMax_> riffautae : ok, found.
[21:57] <DrMax_> I didn't know about FreeDesktop
[21:57] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: there is always a next time for things that are worth it :)
[21:57] <Sh3r1ff> :)
[21:57] <Younder> class ridicolus
[21:57] <carlo> :d
[21:57] <Neldogz> http://pastebin.com/u0sLgqL4
[21:58] <thorn__> Ubuntu just paid for itself today: I edited an important pdf document and created a new template for letterhead for our non-profit org. My computer literacy program might just get off the ground. I need to come up with a schematic for our floor usage, can anyone recommend a architecture style cad program for Ubuntu that has a shallow learning curve?
[21:58] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: did you run update-grub ?
[21:58] <Neldogz> yes sure did
[21:58] <Rya_n> nemo: Alright, thanks. And just in case I need to know for the future, how do I reset the Windows bootloader? I don't have any sort of CD for that.
[21:58] <Neldogz> upon booting all is see is a semi purple blank screen
[21:58] <Fusionite> Hello all
[21:58] <Trond--> How do I make DWA-140 run as fast as it should in Ubuntu as it does in Windows 7? It only does 1/3 of the speed in Ubuntu.
[21:58] <learner> is someone here who have taken the lpi 101 exam?
[21:59] <nemo> Rya_n: haven't done it in a while. google. there's some little utility someone made. or you can use the windows CD, but BE CAREFUL you do not reinstall it
[21:59] <nemo> (windows that is)
[21:59] <Fusionite> I have been looking at the Ubuntu Dev site
[21:59] <Fusionite> And it said I should start here
[21:59] <nemo> Rya_n: or you could just use grub :-p
[21:59] <Younder> Ahh a ubuntu fan
[21:59] <Fusionite> Right?
[21:59] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: then it should work
[21:59] <jtr__> Younder: we all are :)
[21:59] <Fusionite> :3
[21:59] <Rya_n> name: I think I'll stick with grub in fear of messing something up. Thanks again.
[21:59] <Rya_n> nemo: ^
[22:00] <Younder> Your setup is totally fucked
[22:00] <jtr__> Fusionite: right!
[22:00] <Neldogz> sh3r1ff: i have been able to get some verbosity upon bootup by enabling grub_cmdline_linux but i still dont see the OK or Fail
[22:00] <nemo> Trond--: what ubuntu version?
[22:00] <Trond--> Are there any D-Link driver on its way for Ubuntu? DWA-140 does only 1/3 of the internet speed.
[22:00] <Myrtti> thorn__: dia *may* have something, but be aware that the gui may be a bit crusty on the edges
[22:00] <thorn__> dia?
[22:00] <Trond--> nemo, 10.10 64-bit
[22:00] <jtr__> Fusionite: there is also a #ubuntu-devel
[22:01] <nemo> Trond--: oh. bad luck
[22:01] <Myrtti> !info dia | thorn__
[22:01] <nemo> Trond--: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1605338.html - probably something like this...
[22:01] <Younder> have you got any tomato juice?
[22:01] <Fusionite> Jtr__ thanks:), May I ask you for help if I get lost?, I havnt used IRC in a long time and I am new to Ubuntu Dev but not Ubuntu it self lol
[22:01] <nemo> Trond--: N vs G + old kernel
[22:02] <jtr__> Fusionite: sure :)
[22:02] <Fusionite> Thanks :)
[22:02] <Younder> I  love the stufff
[22:02] <lelo> Hello... I have an i7 system with 24G of ram. How can I make it faster using more ram?
[22:02] <nemo> Trond--: you could try some PPA, anyway. ideas in thread might help
[22:02] <nemo> Trond--: or upgrading, whatever
[22:02] <Myrtti> thorn__: it's not a cad programme, but it may still fit your needs
[22:02] <Younder> I have 32 gigs of RAM
[22:02] <Younder> oh dear
[22:02] <jtr__> Fusionite: but ask here if i am not there, anyone will help out
[22:03] <lelo> Younder: do you have any tips to make use of this much of ram?
[22:03] <Myrtti> Younder: do you have a Ubuntu support question or are you helping someone?
[22:03] <Younder> lelo: yes I do
[22:03] <lelo> Younder: please, share some with me :)
[22:04] <jonbeckett> #ubuntu
[22:04] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: it just shows you the services it is loading?
[22:04] <Trond--> how do i check which ubuntu version i am running?
[22:04] <Sh3r1ff> Trond--: try cat /proc/version
[22:05] <Younder> lelo: lesson one parallel compilation
[22:05] <Trond--> Linux version 3.0.0-12-generic (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.6.1 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) ) #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011
[22:06] <lelo> Younder: that is not what I meant. I want to make better use of my RAM on Ubuntu. I am currently running with only 2.2G of RAM used, so 20.18G of ram are free and doing nothing.
[22:06] <Fusionite> I really need to get IRSSI or BitchX back :(
[22:06] <newhoa> Just upgraded to 11.10. Whenever gnome-settings-daemon starts... my keyboard stops working. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:06] <Fusionite> Lelo, You have 64Bit?
[22:06] <lelo> Fusionite: yes
[22:06] <nemo> Trond--: huh. on 10.10? you really are bleeding edge
[22:06] <Fusionite> So you can take it all up, You like PC games?
[22:07] <lelo> Fusionite: sure
[22:07] <Trond--> what?
[22:07] <Sh3r1ff> Trond--: try cat /etc/issue
[22:07] <thorn__> Myrtti: thanks
[22:07] <Trond--> Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[22:07] <Trond--> 11.10 latest
[22:07] <Sh3r1ff> Trond--: et voila your version of ubuntu
[22:07] <Trond--> thanks
[22:07] <nemo> Trond--: oh. thought you said 17:00 < Trond--> nemo, 10.10 64-bit
[22:07] <lelo> Fusionite: are you getting somewhere with this? hehehe :)
[22:08] <Trond--> nemo, I thought so, but was wrong
[22:08] <Younder> lelo: i Have 32 gigs of RAM
[22:08] <nemo> Trond--: ok. welp. how about that stuff in the thread about software crypto?
[22:08] <lelo> Younder: Thank you for the repeated information :)
[22:08] <nemo> Trond--: not only could you check the stuff they are checking, but you could also test w/ crypto disabled briefly (open network)
[22:08] <dweez_> is it a bad idea to change your sources.list from lucid to oneiric and upgrade all your packages?
[22:09] <lelo> Fusionite, Younder: gotta go have dinner. bbin10
[22:09] <Myrtti> dweez_: yes
[22:09] <genii-around> dweez_: Yes
[22:09] <dweez_> :)
[22:09] <Fusionite> Ok, Take care
[22:09] <Sh3r1ff> dweez_: kinda
[22:09] <dweez_> is there a better way for me to upgrade everything?
[22:09] <Trond--> nemo, I have used Linux/Ubuntu for a couple of months so I am basicly a newbie
[22:09] <gogeta> lol
[22:10] <genii-around> dweez_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:10] <Sh3r1ff> dweez_: use the update manager
[22:10] <b0ot> nemo, how do i open an application
[22:10] <dweez_> thanks
[22:10] <Younder> lelo: nop
[22:10] <b0ot> in cygwin?
[22:10] <Myrtti> dweez_: mind you, do-release-upgrade will take you through all the steps in between
[22:11] <dweez_> Myrtti, thanks
[22:11] <Myrtti> dweez_: ie. all the releases between lucid and oneiric.
[22:11] <Ammaro> !list
[22:11] <Younder> it's all like free
[22:13] <newhoa> Does anyone know where the keyboard settings might be stored... maybe if I delete them my keyboard might come back to life.
[22:13] <Trond--> none here who has trouble with internet speed with d-link products and their stupid anti-linux drivers?
[22:14] <Johnnychimpo> anyone familiar with shell extensions being blank for gnome tweak
[22:14] <Younder> nop
[22:14] <Johnnychimpo> lier
[22:14] <Johnnychimpo> you know.
[22:15] <Fusionite> Conky is niceeee lol
[22:15] <Younder> no, I really don't
[22:15] <Trond--> later freeworld programmers
[22:16] <Myrtti> Johnnychimpo: mine is blank too, probably because there isn't any extensions installed. http://askubuntu.com/questions/75604/why-does-users-theme-extension-not-show-up-under-gnome-tweak-tool
[22:17] <Younder> whatever
[22:18] <Younder> let me watch my porn
[22:18] <romain_> have a good night
[22:19] <MeQuerSat> oh, I think he will ;)
[22:19] <cgermann> Hello does antone have a Functional repo to get Firefox 8 installed on 11.10?
[22:19] <iceroot> cgermann: the official mozilla ppa
[22:20] <iceroot> !firefox | cgermann
[22:20] <pr0tocoldan> I'm having a problem with my broadcom wireless card. I have already followed instructions for both b43 and STA ways of installing it. The driver has been installed but when I put lshw -C network in terminal I get that the device is disabled. On the online forums I found that this might have to be enabled from windows but I don't know how to do that. Does anyone know how to solve this issue?
[22:23] <Younder> pr0tocoldan, you should read  TCP/IP illustrated
[22:24] <cgermann> lets see adding the PPA on that page yealds Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[22:24] <Pumpkin-> a second edition is coming out soon/now.
[22:24] <Pumpkin-> I hope they didn't ruin it
[22:24] <Pumpkin-> because that book is a bible
[22:24] <cgermann> so on ans so forth for the other repos associated wit that ppa
[22:25] <pr0tocoldan> Younder, have you heard of the same problem before?
[22:25] <Myrtti> Younder: please try to be helpful when helping, that wasn't helpful
[22:25] <Pumpkin-> but that said, I've just read back, and that is totally irrelevent right now !
[22:27] <Younder> TCP/IP illustrated was in fact helpful
[22:28] <Fusionite> I'm out for now people
[22:28] <Fusionite> Take care all :)
[22:28] <Younder> my favourite book it is
[22:29] <pr0tocoldan> I need help getting my wireless card to work. The drivers for it have been installed but it appears to be disabled. How do I enable it?
[22:30] <EgyParadox> pr0tocoldan: type in terminal -> rfkill list
[22:31] <aidan> what am I missing here? Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)
[22:31] <jtr__> EgyParadox: sorry to interrupt the conversation but can u suggest me a guide( preferably an ebook) where i can find commands like the one u just suggested ?
[22:31] <Younder> rfkilllist
[22:32] <Younder> rfkill list
[22:32] <pr0tocoldan> EgyParadox, Wireless LAN soft Blocked: Yes hard blocked: yes
[22:32] <Younder> will  work
[22:32] <Younder> of cource I like Tomato juice
[22:33] <jtr__> Younder: ?
[22:33] <Jonii> How come Ubuntu drains my netbooks battery almost twice as fast as Windows 7?
[22:33] <EgyParadox> pr0tocoldan, rfkill unblock wifi
[22:33] <jtr__> Jonii: maybe ubuntu has apple-fever now :P
[22:33] <Sh3r1ff> Jonii: could be to do with the brightness of your screen
[22:33] <Myrtti> Younder: this is the Ubuntu support channel, could you please cease with the offtopic comments
[22:34] <EgyParadox> jtr__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:34] <jtr__> EgyParadox: thank you :)
[22:34] <Younder> Myrtti, I have no off topic comments!
[22:34] <EgyParadox> there are more links below
[22:35] <EgyParadox> at the end
[22:35] <pr0tocoldan> EgyParadox, what do i do after rfkill unblock wifi?
[22:35] <pr0tocoldan> The status changed from sb
[22:35] <aidan> what do I need to install so that I can visit a site which is https?
[22:35] <pr0tocoldan> The status changed from sb: no hb: yes
[22:36] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: a browser
[22:37] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: see what I posted above
[22:37] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: "Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)" my browser is missing the local issuer certificate, or something.
[22:37] <Fakm> Hi, just installed via wubi.. is this a permenant solution instead of dual booting?
[22:38] <Myrtti> Fakm: I wouldn't call it that
[22:38] <Fakm> ok
[22:38] <Fakm> whats it used for
[22:38] <Myrtti> Fakm: I'd treat it as a demo of Ubuntu, just like games have demos
[22:38] <Fakm> gotcha
[22:38] <auronandace> Fakm: yeah, it's like a teaser
[22:39] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: can you provide a screenshot or so?
[22:39] <ViaNocturna85> Fakm, also its a way to use ubuntu if you dont have the know how for dual booting or arent sure if you stick with Ubuntu
[22:39] <Jasmin> FloodBot1, hii
[22:39] <pr0tocoldan> EgyParadox i rebooted and works like a charm. I don't know how to thank you. I have been trying to find this solution for over a week. Kudos to you.
[22:39] <Fakm> ok
[22:39] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: I pasted the error message ...
[22:39] <EgyParadox> pr0tocoldan, you're welcome :)
[22:39] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: what browser?
[22:40] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: openssl
[22:40] <Fakm> well i know ubuntu from past but need windows for games lol
[22:40] <Jasmin> aidan, hi
[22:40] <aidan> Hi Jasmin
[22:40] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: openssl is not a browser ;)
[22:40] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: one of us knows more than the other.
[22:40] <Younder> openssl sucks
[22:40] <Jasmin> aidan, can u help me out in fedora os
[22:41] <Myrtti> Jasmin: this is #ubuntu, not #fedora
[22:41] <Younder> no this is a ubuntu group
[22:41] <Jasmin> aidan,sorry
[22:41] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: so openssl IS a browser?
[22:41] <lexflex> hello ubuntu gurus
[22:42] <Jasmin> aidan, i dont know that i m new here
[22:42] <Myrtti> aidan: do you have ca-certificates package installed?
[22:42] <lexflex> anyone got a clue how to connect a bluetooth keyboard (apple) with ubuntu?
[22:43] <Younder> Sh3r1ff, you really are clueless
[22:43] <Jasmin> #fedora
[22:43] <Myrtti> Younder: can you please keep the commentary elsewhere
[22:43] <Sh3r1ff> Younder: i have a clue what a browser is
[22:43] <auronandace> !info openssl | Sh3r1ff
[22:44] <aidan> Myrtti: yes :/
[22:44] <Sh3r1ff> auronandace: i wasn't the one to say that openssl is a browser ;)
[22:44] <arif-ali> Hi all, the issue I had wrt to not being able to get into GNOME 3 although I had everything installed was my ID, my ID was 503, but it needs to be 1000 or higher to work. A very wierd setting, anyone now where best to change this
[22:44] <Myrtti> aidan: and does the page you're trying to view have a Java applet on it?
[22:44] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: I think you were.
[22:45] <Myrtti> aidan: you could also try to reinstall that package
[22:45] <hzilla_> hi on natty i have a cron file in /etc/cron.d as shown here http://pastebin.com/3bmWnNVG but it doesn't run.. it has a newline after it - why wouldn;t it run?
[22:45] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: < Sh3r1ff> aidan: openssl is not a browser ;)
[22:45] <aidan> Myrtti: $ openssl s_client -connect github.com:443
[22:45] <Myrtti> aidan: right
[22:46] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: did you just quote yourself as proof that someone else said something?
[22:46] <Jasmin> how do i Build two virtual machines and evaluate the performance of communication link between the machines.
[22:46] <lordjj> where is .bashrc found?
[22:46] <aidan> Myrtti: I did a reinstall, same deal. Hrmph.
[22:46] <jtr__> lordjj: ~/.bashrc
[22:47] <lordjj> right in the home folder?
[22:47] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: looks like it heh
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: ya its hidden , thats it
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: all files starting with the . in their name are hidden
[22:47] <lordjj> jtr__  but ctrl + h isn't showing it
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: type ls -la in home dir to know more
[22:47] <Myrtti> aidan: I get that message as well tho...
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: where are u doing the ctrl+h
[22:48] <aidan> Myrtti: oh maybe github is bung,
[22:48] <aidan> I didn't think of that.
[22:48] <lordjj> in the home folder
[22:48] <aidan> _ssl.c:480: error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed
[22:48] <ViaNocturna85> lordjj, when you need to find a file try the find command in a terminal, just type 'find -name <NAME OF FILE>'
[22:48] <aidan> This is what I'm originally trying to troubleshoot
[22:48] <jtr__> lordjj: i mean is it the terminal aur nautilus or what
[22:49] <lordjj> Nautilus
[22:49] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: he wanted .bashrc
[22:49] <lordjj> find -name .bashrc       outputs nothing
[22:49] <jtr__> lordjj: find doesn't look for hidden files
[22:49] <ViaNocturna85> jtr__, thats funny, it displays './.bashrc' for me
[22:50] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: without any flag ?
[22:50] <quackquack> are there any browserify-compatible test frameworks?
[22:50] <ViaNocturna85> 'find -name .bashrc'
[22:50] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: yes it does, but the command was wrong ;)
[22:50] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: thats strange ! i just tried searching my .swp files after a session crash and find -name *.swp returned nothing
[22:51] <bekks> jtr__: find . -name "*.swp"
[22:51] <bobweaver> Hi there I am trying to write a backup script and need some help. here is the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/733647/   as you can see from line 19 down I need Help thanks so Much
[22:51] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: ViaNocturna85 oh i did not type '-name' , sorry guys
[22:51] <bekks> ;)
[22:51] <gage_bw> "Unmount partitions that are in use?   The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions:  /dev/sda "      I'm installing from a USB stick. Does this message refer to the very USB stick I'm installing from?
[22:51] <jtr__> lordjj: you can do what they said
[22:51] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: try find . -name "*bashrc*" -print
[22:51] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: ok
[22:51] <ViaNocturna85> jtr__, thank god, i just thought i had some divine terminal session going on
[22:52] <lordjj> I think I just don't have one in my home folder
[22:52] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: ahaha :D
[22:52] <lelo> Guys, I have a system with 24G of Ram and I want to make it run faster using idle ram. How can I make it use more ram for useful things, speeding up the system?
[22:53] <bobweaver> lelo:  arent you the luck one :>)
[22:53] <bekks> lelo: Your system does its job very well, it uses as much RAM as it needs.
[22:53] <NoReGreT> i installed the "additional drivers" on my hp dv6 with dual GPUs (intel and AMD), i rebooted then tried to run teh catalyst control center and then got http://imgur.com/7o4m3 any ideas ?
[22:53] <SIFTU> lelo: it will use what it needs, the filesystem will use a chunk, you could probably turn swappiness to 0
[22:53] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: prints the output anyways , why use -print ?
[22:55] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: because you can do other stuff to the files find finds with -exec
[22:55] <antonio_> alguém do Brasil?
[22:55] <antonio_> que fale português?
[22:55] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: just a habit
[22:55] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i still cant print all the .swp files it prints only one
[22:55] <andyk> does anyone know what download and upload speed you need to host a 300,000 + uniques/month
[22:55] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff:
[22:56] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: did u just say 'files find finds' :P
[22:56] <antonio_> alguém do Brasil?
[22:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: if it prints one, it means it found just the one
[22:56] <plummerb> I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI  and I'm wondering about the X11 Client section.  What would be an example of an X11 client?
[22:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: and yeah i did, the files that the command "find" finds, that more clear? ;)
[22:56] <antonio_> alguém do Brasil?
[22:56] <antonio_> que fale português?
[22:56] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i can see more than one in my dolphin file browser
[22:57] <pangolin> !br | antonio_
[22:57] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: no i was just mocking it, i got it the first time :P
[22:57] <moystard> hey guys
[22:57] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: english isn't my native tongue, so it could sound a little weird sometimes ;)
[22:57] <moystard> I need your help :) I am trying to switch from Unity to Wingpanel
[22:57] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: but if the files are in the same folder, it should normally find them
[22:57] <moystard> I have buitl wingpanel and it runs well, but now I want to replace so I installed compiz config manager, disabled unity
[22:57] <HACKhalo2> ok, I'm trying to boot archlinux with ubuntu's grub
[22:57] <antonio_> Thanks
[22:58] <moystard> but I would like to know how I can start wingpanel & docky at the startup
[22:58] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: omg! i never noticed any errors! and the statement was as it is very correct, ur english is better than okay :)
[22:58] <HACKhalo2> it boots into ubuntu fine, but arch tries to load sda3, which doesn't exist
[22:59] <bj_> heloo, after upgrade tp oneiric i have to logou twoice, any clue how to turn this off?
[22:59] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: okay, find searches only the current dir ?
[22:59] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: thats y
[22:59] <bekks> jtr__: No.
[22:59] <HACKhalo2> the archlinux people say it's ubuntu's fault for it not working correctly
[22:59] <bekks> By default, find searches the current directory and all subdirectories.
[22:59] <Brother_Mouzone> quit
[23:00] <jtr__> bekks: in fact i was in home and it didnt print the .swp files in Music folder ( lyrics )
[23:00] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: the syntax of find is: find "location" -name "something you search" (short version)
[23:00] <jtr__> bekks: so obv no
[23:00] <bekks> jtr__: Then do this: find .
[23:00] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: and the location can be anything you want (. standing for current dir)
[23:00] <jtr__> bekks: and if u dont give a location, it assumes . ?
[23:00] <bekks> jtr__: If your assumption would be correct, you wouldnt see any contents i subdirectories.
[23:00] <SIFTU> jtr__: bekks is correct.. find search subdirs too
[23:01] <jtr__> bekks: u mean if i had done a find -name '*.swp' in ~ , it should print .swp files in Music folder right ?
[23:02] <jtr__> bekks: pardon the specificity, i understood what u said , but somehow it doesn't give the expected output
[23:02] <bekks> jtr__: I mean that find searches subdirectories too if you follow the syntax correctly.
[23:02] <moystard> Nobody uses wingpanel?
[23:02] <bekks> You still omit the "location" which is mandatory.
[23:02] <jtr__> bekks: so i must give a "location" parameter
[23:02] <lelo> bobweaver, bekks, SIFTU: I've heard from cooleagues that it is possible to run the whole system from RAM. Google wasn't very helpful on achieving that with 11.10. Any ideas on how to implement that?
[23:02] <plummerb> What would be an example of an X11 client?
[23:02] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: perhaps the searchterm wasn't correct
[23:02] <jtr__> bekks: ok let me check
[23:03] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: it printed one .swp file , so i think it was
[23:03] <bekks> jtr__: No, you have not. Just issue "find" somewhere.
[23:03] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff:  find . -name '*.swp'
[23:03] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: find . -name is case sensitive, use find . -iname for case insensitive
[23:03] <SIFTU> lelo: yeah puppy does that.. you can also create ramdisks
[23:04] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: the string i am searching is a case-insensitive regexp
[23:04] <lelo> SIFTU: what do you mean by puppy? puppy linux distro?
[23:04] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i mean i dont think it makes any difference
[23:04] <SIFTU> lelo: yeah.. it loads itself into RAM
[23:04] <mya> Right, Im just going out on a limb here with this question. I want to know if there is any way I can use IMVU's latest client without it crashing through Wine and without paying for Crossover?
[23:04] <Gr3mlin> hay all, anyone alive in here?
[23:04] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: yes it does, find . -name '*.swp' will not find a something.SWP file
[23:05] <SIFTU> lelo: but it wont use all the RAM you are talking about :)
[23:05] <ikonia> mya: short answer - no
[23:05] <lelo> SIFTU: but the idea is to run ubuntu... :)
[23:05] <bekks> jtr__: -iname vs. -name
[23:05] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i knew that :)
[23:05] <mya> ikonia: Long answer?
[23:05] <SIFTU> lelo: well you could copy stuff into a ramdisk and mount it.. you would need to do it on everyboot
[23:05] <Phoenixz> Just installed postgresql on Ubuntu 11.04, apt-get install postgresql. Installed w/o problem. Now I do service postresql start, nothing happens.. I get no error, nothing, just the prompt, but no postgresql process.. What might be the problem, or ways to fix this?
[23:06] <Gr3mlin> running ubuntu headless, need to be reminded what the system monitor is called. has and odd name and ive forgotten.
[23:06] <lelo> SIFTU: I understand. Thank you :)
[23:06] <Phoenixz> I DO have MySQL running as well, ps `pgrep sql` shows the mysql server running.. Maybe it has something to do with that? (though, thats doubtful)
[23:06] <Gentoo64> Gr3mlin: top?
[23:06] <Gentoo64> htop?
[23:06] <lucas-arg> cant get kworld ub405 dvb work on ubuntu 11.10...!!! help!!!!
[23:06] <plummerb> Top?
[23:06] <ikonia> mya: can't be bothered,
[23:06] <moystard> Anyone using wingpanel or docky on Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:07] <ikonia> Phoenixz: have you setup the database
[23:07] <Lehthanis> Is there a way to install the packages from an aptoncd iso by mounting the iso instead of burning to disk?
[23:07] <ikonia> Phoenixz: the database needs to be setup so there is something to run
[23:07] <ViaNocturna85> ikonia, if you dont know an answer, perhaps leave it for someone who might?
[23:07] <bekks> moystard: Why dont you just ask your real question? :)
[23:07] <jtr__> bekks: Sh3r1ff: it was my mistake , thanks u guys :) and apologies , i confused abc.txt~ kind of files with a swap file, but anyways what are those files ending with a ~
[23:07] <ikonia> ViaNocturna85: don't know the answer to what ?
[23:07] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: but find searches every subdirectory as weel, so find should find the files if your searchterm matches
[23:07] <mya> ikonia: can you just give me an idea of where to start looking?
[23:07] <ViaNocturna85> mya's question
[23:07] <ikonia> mya: it's not stable underwine
[23:07] <moystard> bekks, I did before but nobody replied. I am trying to replace Unity with wingpanel/docky
[23:07] <ikonia> ViaNocturna85: I do know the answer, that's why I gave it him
[23:07] <Phoenixz> ikonia: Great, I'll look for a howto on postgre..
[23:07] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: backup files
[23:07] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: okay, thanks
[23:08] <bekks> moystard: Thats a nice job to do - but no question nor a problem :)
[23:08] <andyk> ikonia: do you know what upload/download speeds you would need to host a high traffic website?
[23:08] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: gedit can be configured to automaticly save your work for example
[23:08] <ikonia> Phoenixz: you've installed the binaries, bu there is "nothing" to actually start if that makes sense, you've not created an instance yet
[23:08] <mya> ikonia: HIM?! IM A GIRL!
[23:08] <ikonia> andyk: depends on many things
[23:08] <ikonia> mya: sorry about that
[23:08] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: and it saves it like that (filenam.extension~)
[23:08] <moystard> the solution I thought of is to run compiz config manager, disable unity, but I need then to launch wingpanel on startup, what is the easiest solution to do that? Also, if I run docky, everything disappears on my screen :/
[23:08] <Phoenixz> ikonia: well, mysql does start w/o anything.. :)
[23:08] <mya> ikonia: not a worry.
[23:08] <ikonia> Phoenixz: mysql is not postgres
[23:09] <Phoenixz> ikonia: checking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[23:09] <plummerb> Does anyone know an example of a X11 "Clent"?
[23:09] <ikonia> Phoenixz: and if you check, mysql has 3 instances by default, mysql/test/myisam
[23:09] <moystard> bekks, any idea?
[23:09] <andyk> ikonia: well just in general, if you used a scalable php framework and you had one dedicated server, could you reliably host 300,000+ monthly uniques?
[23:09] <ikonia> Phoenixz: so it does require an instance, although it works different than postfres
[23:09] <ikonia> postgres
[23:09] <ikonia> andyk: it depends on many things as I've said, there is no "general"
[23:09] <ikonia> andyk: you'd need to do a sizing and scaling exercise
[23:10] <Phoenixz> ikonia: From the URL I just showed, all stuff I try requires postgres to be already running.. How would I create a DB?
[23:10] <Phoenixz> ikonia:  sudo -u postgres createdb mydb requires postgresql to already be running, which it doesnt...
[23:11] <Lehthanis> I need help importing packages from an aptoncd iso without burning a disk. All I have is a memory stick.
[23:11] <ikonia> Phoenixz: interesting,
[23:11] <bekks> moystard: You could use a .xinitrc maybe
[23:11] <ikonia> Phoenixz: what was the name of the package you installed
[23:12] <Phoenixz> postgresql
[23:12] <SIFTU> Lehthanis: mount the iso, add it to your sources
[23:12] <lelo> SIFTU: Interesting> http://linuxgeekforu.blogspot.com/2011/07/making-ubuntu-104-fast-by-loading-it-to.html
[23:12] <ikonia> Phoenixz: did sudo -u postgres psql postgres work
[23:13] <Phoenixz> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/HKbaz147
[23:13] <Phoenixz> ikonia: sudo -u postgres psql postgres gives same error
[23:13] <SIFTU> lelo: nice :)
[23:14] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ls -la /var/run/postgresql
[23:14] <Phoenixz> ikonia: tried that, empty
[23:14] <moystard> bekks, that was not my plan, I am keeping the current xsession and try to configure from here
[23:14] <Phoenixz> ikonia: the dir exists, but is empty
[23:14] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ok, so the socket files not there confirming it's not running
[23:14] <dkog> Hello - How might I go about installing fonts on a headless server (to be used by GTK/Pango code) ?
[23:14] <Phoenixz> ikonia: correct..
[23:15] <Phoenixz> ikonia: So that would indicate there IS a problem, right?
[23:15] <ikonia> Phoenixz well, very possible, what command are you using to start the binary
[23:16] <Phoenixz> ikonia: service postgresql start... gives nothing, directly returns to prompt
[23:16] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ls -la /etc/init.d | grep post
[23:16] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: anything in the log?  (/var/log/postgresql/)
[23:16] <Phoenixz> ikonia: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1028 Aug  5  2010 postgresql
[23:17] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[23:17] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ok - so that looks spot on at least
[23:17] <Phoenixz> tonyyarusso: /var/log/postgre/ is also empty
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: psotgresql, not postgre
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: are you running the service command as root?  (with sudo)
[23:17] <plummerb> dkog  You can use apt-get to install font packages.
[23:18] <Phoenixz> tonyyarusso: psotgresql?
[23:18] <Phoenixz> tonyyarusso: tried both with sudo and as root
[23:18] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: postgresql, rather
[23:18] <ikonia> back in a short while
[23:18] <plummerb> How do I redirect display from Ubuntu server to a desktop?
[23:19] <dkog> plummerb: ah that's easy, thanks.  Looks like I can just copy my own fonts into any font dir and run fc-cache myself too.
[23:19] <Sh3r1ff> Phoenixz: try /etc/init.d/postgresql start
[23:19] <plummerb> dkog that should do it.
[23:21] <plummerb> I know that Ubuntu server doesn't have X but if I want to run Virtualbox for example, how would I redirect the output to a desktop system?
[23:21] <Lehthanis> Siftu how do I add it to sources? It tells me to insert a disk when I click add volume in package manager.
[23:22] <Lehthanis> I have the disk mounted
[23:22] <th0r> plummerb: if you want to run X apps you have to install X on the server. You can redirect the output using, for instance, X-forwarding to a client, but X has to be running on the server
[23:22] <plummerb> help.ubuntu.com says I can use an X11 client and forward the connections over ssh to my desktop...
[23:22] <imbezol> th0r: and when you say X has to be running on the server, you of course mean the libs have to be installed. X doesn't have to be running though.
[23:23] <th0r> imbezol: I just always assumed it was running when I installed the libs...but you may be right on that
[23:23] <plummerb> Yeah, help.ubuntu.com says to run specific X11 clients?  What does that mean?
[23:23] <imbezol> th0r: the server has to run where it will display.. ie on your desktop
[23:24] <plummerb> I have an Lubuntu desktop I want to forward the output to.
[23:24] <imbezol> plummerb: just install something simple like xterm. then ssh -X servername, and run xterm
[23:24] <Lehthanis> Any body know how to add an iso to package manager as a source or am I doing it all wrong?
[23:25] <imbezol> plummerb: ubuntu may try to add xorg to your default runlevel but you can use rcconf or similar util to remove it
[23:26] <imbezol> plummerb: (assuming the server is ubuntu too..)
[23:26] <plummerb> imbezol  Install xterm on the server?
[23:26] <imbezol> yep
[23:27] <plummerb> imbezol  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI  says to use xauth...  Any idea what that means?
[23:27] <NoReGreT> i installed the "additional drivers" on my hp dv6 with dual GPUs (intel and AMD), i rebooted then tried to run teh catalyst control center and then got http://imgur.com/7o4m3 any ideas ?
[23:28] <imbezol> plummerb: you can check but i think if you try to install xterm it will probably pull in xauth as a dependency
[23:28] <plummerb> NoReGreT  What version of Ubuntu?
[23:28] <NoReGreT> plummerb: 11.10
[23:29] <plummerb> NoReGreT  There are known issues with using ATI with 11.10
[23:29] <imbezol> plummerb: the other thing you'll have to check is /etc/ssh/sshd_config as you need to have X11Forwarding set to yes for it to work
[23:30] <NoReGreT> damn it
[23:30] <plummerb> NoReGreT  I have to use the 2D version of Unity for it to work on my system at home.
[23:31] <Lehthanis> Where am I supposed to add new modelines to? I added some things to default in /etc/gdm/Init but it doesn't give me the new mode in monitors.
[23:32] <plummerb> imbezol  So I don't need to install xserver-xorg?
[23:32] <esmirlin> hey guys i want to buy a new laptop, what is more important to have a i5 instead of a i3 or to have an nvidia 1G instead or 512?
[23:32] <plummerb> esmirlin  Depends on what you are doing with the thing...
[23:32] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I dropped an ssh -X session but that session hasn't timed out on the remote machine yet.  Is there any way I can get the instance of the program I was running back up? I have unsaved data
[23:32] <imbezol> plummerb: don't think so, nope
[23:32] <plummerb> esmirlin  Doing mathmatical computations?  Go with i5
[23:33] <bekks> JokesOnYou77: No.
[23:33] <plummerb> esmirlin  Playing games?  Go with the nvidia 1G
[23:33] <JokesOnYou77> bekks: :( but top on the remote machine still shows my program as running
[23:34] <bekks> JokesOnYou77: Yes, but you cant get back to it.
[23:35] <JokesOnYou77> bekks: crap.  Thanks anyways I guess
[23:35] <Lehthanis> Can anyone help me with adding a mounted iso as a source in package manager?
[23:36] <plummerb> Darn, got kicked.
[23:37] <Lehthanis> Add volume keeps asking for a disk
[23:38] <ldz420> I have a hard drive that I am not able to access with mounting but the drive has a file system .   I have a lot of information that I want to copy.  Is dd the best command from the job
[23:39] <bobweaver> I think that this is more like it ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/733679/
[23:40] <Lehthanis> Gah!
[23:40] <spundun> hi
[23:41] <jaysonsantos> Hi guys, my unity is not showing sys settings app, what is it command name?
[23:41] <spundun> question... a package I'm building requires /usr/include/cdefs.h http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=cdefs.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=karmic&arch=any says libc6-dev should have that file but I can't find it on my ubuntu installation
[23:42] <Lehthanis> How do I add a mounted iso as a source in package manager?
[23:42] <spundun> any idea how I could get /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h on ubuntu?
[23:43] <plummerb> Lehthanis  You add the mount point as the source.
[23:43] <spundun> btw sorry for the typo in the first message the file I'm looking for is /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h
[23:43] <plummerb> Lehthanis  Whish package manager?
[23:43] <Lehthanis> How do I know what the mount point is?
[23:44] <Neldogz> if i wanted to mirror a directory on a hard drive named /home/user1/Downloads  to  /media/datafolder   could i simply do rsync -avr source destination ?
[23:44] <zkid111> Can someone help me with an issue that I'm having with a hard drive?
[23:44] <Lehthanis> Synaptic I guess
[23:44] <Neldogz> are there any switches that are critical that i could be missing?
[23:44] <riffautae> Neldogz: yea but be aware of how trailing /'s work
[23:44] <Lehthanis> I made a iso in aptoncd that I need to get on this offline machine.
[23:45] <plummerb> Lehthanis  Were you able to mount the iso?
[23:45] <Lehthanis> Yeah it shows up in the places menu
[23:46] <Neldogz> thank you riffautae.. I will make sure to add the / to designate these as directories and not files
[23:46] <Neldogz> i totally missed that
[23:46] <plummerb> Lehthanis  What is it in the Places menu?
[23:46] <moystard> I have huge performance issues with Docky, the animations are not smooth at all :(
[23:47] <Guest75882> hello
[23:47] <Lehthanis> Update-CD1.iso
[23:47] <plummerb> Lehthanis  How did you mount it?
[23:47] <rofra> help
[23:48] <moystard> Is that normal to have performance issues with the proprietary nvidia drivers & docky?
[23:48] <Lehthanis> Right click - open with archive mounter
[23:48] <Guest75882> hello all
[23:49] <plummerb> Lehthanis  Ok, you have to actually "mount" the iso as a file system first.  Check this out:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[23:49] <plummerb> Lehthanis  After that you should be able to browse to the packages in the package manager.
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[23:50] <plummerb> Nice...
[23:51] <plummerb> When you put your hand in a bunch or kamgoo that was once your friends face...  LOL
[23:52] <riffautae> plummerb: ): i dont get it
[23:53] <plummerb> I was channeling George C. Scott from Patton...  ;)
[23:55] <plummerb> With that failure I'm out.
[23:55] <Lehthanis> Plummerb now that I added it how do I find the specific packages that are there?
[23:56] <Lehthanis> Great he's gone
[23:56] <SIFTU> Lehthanis: I PM'ed you the links
[23:57] <AndrewEMT> Question... I bought Steel Storm from the software center back when I still used Natty and I'm not on Oneric... The game doesn't work in 11.10 due to the repository and package being for Natty (for some reason, it is a clean install of 11.10) can someone help me by explaining how to change the repository
[23:57] <Jonii> Sh3r1ff: about ubuntu power drainage: Nope, even if I set the brigthness to the least possible setting, and disable wireless networks, windows 7 still lasts 1.5 hours longer than Ubuntu
[23:57] <willwork4foo> Hi all - I'm having a bit of a nightmare here. I'm trying to configure my Ubuntu 11.10 desktop (amd64) as an XBMC box for use with my TV, and I've got two problems that are causing me grief. Problem 1: I get no sound whatsoever over the HDMI link. No matter what I do (yes, I've tried all the options in the hardware tab on the sound settings)
[23:58] <willwork4foo> Problem 2: I cannot get my xmbc user account to auto-login with xbmc as it's default session.
[23:58] <Jonii> Like, WIndows 7 with moderately high screen brightness and constant network action. Of course, if you disable wifi and set screen brigtness to low in windows, you get even wider gap
[23:58] <AndrewEMT> I'm now on Oneric*
[23:58] <willwork4foo> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?
[23:58] <spundun> figured it out