[00:00] <duanedesign> rakshasa: You are behind a proxy?
[00:00] <rakshasa> Yes but never had an issue with it
[00:01] <duanedesign> unfortunately Ubuntu One currently does not work behind a proxy
[00:01] <rakshasa> I'll try some stuff myself and If it works I will close ticket
[00:02] <rakshasa> But gotta go now
[00:02] <rakshasa> Tnx for the support
[00:02] <duanedesign> ok, cheers
[00:02] <duanedesign> anytime
[03:08] <keithclark> I am logging into a remote machine to see why my ubuntu one does not seem to be syncing up properly on it.  It did a u1sdtool -s and I get State Ready, not online and connection:  Not User With Network.  What is wrong?
[03:49] <keithclark> I am having a hell of a time getting my one machine to sync up properly.  Anyone around to offer help?
[03:49] <keithclark> ls
[03:51] <keithclark> It just won't seem to sync up
[03:52] <keithclark> It is running 11.10, is this a problem?
[03:54] <keithclark> Anyone here?
[03:58] <keithclark> duanedesign, are you around?
[04:00] <keithclark> Is there a naming convention that will not be shared?
[04:02] <keithclark> Hello?
[04:04] <keithclark> This is a paid service and this is the best help available?
[04:07] <keithclark> Is there a secret door for paid support????
[04:08] <keithclark> Wow, asking a question about Ubuntu One gets completely ignored on #ubuntu and also here....strange
[04:09] <beuno> keithclark, I'm sorry, we don't have 24hs support
[04:09] <beuno> the core hours are specified in our support page
[04:10] <beuno> from what I can see, U1 thinks you don't have a network
[04:10] <beuno> I am not sure what it could be, the service is working fine
[04:10] <keithclark> beuno, so if paid for, only limited hours support is offered?
[04:10] <beuno> keithclark, yes, like 99% of all services, they don't have 24/7 support
[04:11] <beuno> we cover a huge range of time, but there's an 8 hour gap
[04:11] <beuno> there should be someone around in about 5 hours
[04:11] <beuno> in the mean time, I'd suggest filing a bug with your logs
[04:11] <beuno> they will pick that up then
[04:11] <keithclark> I don't have 5 hours
[04:11] <beuno> or email the support address
[04:13] <beuno> keithclark, this is a stock Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:14] <keithclark> beuno, yes, being accessed remotely via ssh
[04:14] <beuno> keithclark, and "u1sdtools -c" doesn't connect it?
[04:15] <beuno> it gets the connection info from Network Manager
[04:15] <keithclark> connects, doesn't sync
[04:15] <beuno> maybe that it isn't enabled if you're accessing remotely?
[04:15] <beuno> 21:08 < keithclark> I am logging into a remote machine to see why my ubuntu one does not seem to be syncing up properly on it.  It did a u1sdtool -s
[04:15] <beuno>                     and I get State Ready, not online and connection:  Not User With Network.  What is wrong?
[04:15] <keithclark> Yes, same directory synced fine earlier
[04:15] <beuno> I guess that's old
[04:16] <keithclark> beuno, yes, that cleared itself up
[04:16] <beuno> so, what do the logs say?
[04:16] <beuno> ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[04:17] <beuno> alternatively, you can try disconnecting and reconnecting with -q and then -c
[04:17] <keithclark> beuno, done that 5 times
[04:17] <keithclark> I see this over and over:
[04:17] <keithclark> 2011-11-08 23:16:58,699 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - NOTE - ---- MARK (state: <State: 'QUEUE_MANAGER'  (queues IDLE  connection 'With User With Network')>; queue: 0; hash: 0) ----
[04:18] <beuno> keithclark, that means everything is up to date
[04:18] <beuno> as far as Ubuntu One can tell
[04:18] <keithclark> Well it is not
[04:19] <jdobrien> keithclark: when you say it is not, what is not synced?
[04:19] <keithclark> jdobrien, a file in a directory that says on the originating machine that is synced
[04:19] <keithclark> It does not show up on the 'to be synced machine'
[04:20] <beuno> keithclark, does it show up on the web ui?
[04:20] <jdobrien> keithclark: so so I understand what you mean, you have two computers right?
[04:20] <keithclark> beuno, oh god, I hate that interface
[04:20] <keithclark> jdobrien, yes
[04:20] <jdobrien> keithclark: what platform are these?
[04:20] <beuno> keithclark, it's ok, you don't have to stay there, just check so we can confirm it's on the server
[04:20] <jdobrien> windows or ubuntu
[04:21] <keithclark> jdobrien, one is 11.04, the sender, the other is 11.10, the receiver
[04:21] <jdobrien> keithclark: ok. Is the directory under ~/Ubuntu One?
[04:21] <keithclark> jdobrien, no
[04:22] <jdobrien> keithclark: so you have  folder on one machine you want to sync
[04:22] <jdobrien> keithclark: on the machine that is not syncing the folder, can you run u1sdtool --list-folders
[04:24] <keithclark> yes
[04:24] <jdobrien> keithclark: we're looking for the folder you want to sync
[04:24] <keithclark> jdobrien, and the target folder is there
[04:25] <jdobrien> keithclark: what is the value of 'subscribed'
[04:25] <keithclark> /home/keithclark/Docments
[04:25] <keithclark>   id=1e643d9e-4ea8-40de-a502-596b9823dfb7 subscribed=True path=/home/keithclark/Documents
[04:25] <keithclark>   id=fca9b029-1935-45f6-8dc6-dfd039ae0723 subscribed=False path=/home/keithclark/Waterloo Hosting
[04:25] <keithclark>   id=a0fbf137-3d14-45c2-a2ed-28d61e6f90f4 subscribed=True path=/home/keithclark/Videos From Home
[04:25] <jdobrien> keithclark: so the folder is not subscribed (aka syncing) yet
[04:26] <keithclark> ?
[04:26] <jdobrien> keithclark: you can subscribe it in the control panel
[04:26] <jdobrien> keithclark: Ubuntu One doesn't by default sync all the folders on all the computers
[04:27] <jdobrien> keithclark: u1sdtool --subscribe-folder 1e643d9e-4ea8-40de-a502-596b9823dfb7
[04:27] <keithclark> But /Documents is synced.  It  has synced some of the files in that folder in the past
[04:27] <jdobrien> keithclark: for some reason it is not anymore :(
[04:27] <keithclark> I understand that and that is why I'm here!
[04:27] <jdobrien> keithclark: oh sorry
[04:27] <jdobrien> it is True...
[04:27] <jdobrien> it's a little late for me I guess :)
[04:28] <jdobrien> hmm
[04:28] <jdobrien> keithclark: so no we need to make sure the other computer is actually pushing changes to ubuntu one
[04:28] <jdobrien> s/no/now
[04:29] <jdobrien> keithclark: can you run that same command on the other computer?
[04:33] <keithclark> Working......
[04:36] <keithclark> You know what?  This is all too hard to do.  I'll try DropBox to see if that is easier
[04:36] <jdobrien> ok
[04:37] <jdobrien> thank you for trying
[04:37] <keithclark> No problem (you might want to consider ease of use versus revenue) Just a hint
[04:39] <keithclark> (and customer service as well)
[04:39] <jdobrien> i thought that's what i was doing ;)
[04:39] <keithclark> jdobrien, you were!
[04:40] <keithclark> jdobrien, but it took me a ton of effort to get here.
[04:41] <keithclark> And still my machine is not synced
[04:41] <jdobrien> yeah it's strange it's not working for you
[04:42] <jdobrien> dropbox has an advantage over use in filesync (for now) since that's all they do. they have a very nice service
[04:43] <keithclark> I don't mean to threaten.  It is just that Ubuntu One wants me to pay for a service that does not work.....strange.
[04:44] <jdobrien> keithclark: i didn't take it as threatening. we know we have some bumps right now
[04:45] <keithclark> Well pull back cash requests for properly delivery.  Just an observation.
[04:45] <jdobrien> keithclark: we have 110 million free users
[04:46] <keithclark> I am an example of a customer not served.
[04:46] <jdobrien> oh wait...let me check my decimal point
[04:46] <jdobrien> 1.5 million
[04:46] <jdobrien> free users
[04:47] <keithclark> OK, are they satisfied?  Are they daily users?
[04:47] <keithclark> Do they depend on this service?
[04:47] <jdobrien> keithclark: there's some who aren't...the majority are satisfied i think
[04:48] <jdobrien> it's ok to fall into both categories
[04:48] <jdobrien> I will never be satisfied until it all 'just works'
[04:48] <keithclark> Well, I'm a believer and I guess I'll have to wait for my solution
[04:49] <jdobrien> it typically does work. I have have several computers that sync fine under normal use
[04:49] <jdobrien> although I do know the weaknesses of our systems and can force failures ;)
[04:50] <keithclark> I really just wanted help when asked.  That's all.
[04:51] <keithclark> Although, still not synced!
[04:51] <jdobrien> keithclark: we really appreciate you spending some time here and explaining what's happening, it's really the only way to work out the kinks
[04:52] <jdobrien> unlike locked-down desktops, there are so many nuances to open-source computers that create interesting challenges
[04:52] <jdobrien> I'm in the middle of restoring a system I pushed beyond what I should have :)
[04:53] <keithclark> Yup and I've been here since '07, still learning
[04:55] <jdobrien> keithclark: I've been able to watch Ubuntu One go from scribbles on napkins to something people use. So I do have a sense of ownership, although I don't make all the decision for the choices we make, there is still a sense of pride in wanting it to suceed
[04:56] <keithclark> Well I'm an example of where it does not work.  Have fun!
[04:56] <jdobrien> keithclark: :)
[04:57] <keithclark> Well, I'm headed for bed!  Contact me at keithclark at watersubstop dot com
[04:58] <jdobrien> keithclark: all I ask is don't forget about us. I hope dropbox works out ok
[04:58] <jdobrien> no reason it shouldn't
[04:58] <keithclark> waterloosubstop dot com
[04:58] <jdobrien> keithclark: ok
[04:58] <jdobrien> thank you... gnight
[09:35] <JamesTait> Wonderful Wednesday, people! :D
[10:14] <gatox> hi
[10:32] <m4r35n357> is UbuntuOne always slow?  I've been syncing up for over an hour now with no sign of finishing, and this is all stuff that I synced yesterday . . . .
[10:33] <m4r35n357> feels really broken, and I have no feedback on what it's doing
[10:34] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: We've got someone looking into it for you.
[10:34] <m4r35n357> I have the client and the home folder open on that same screen, and the "updating" emblems are on the directories, but I feels could have typed in the data quicker by hand
[10:34] <m4r35n357> ah JamesTait, please forgive my bleatings, but this is doing my head in ;)
[10:35] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: No problem. :)
[10:36] <m4r35n357> I have a lapton on Ubuntu Natty, and two netbooks, one with Lubuntu Oneiric, and one with the LTS netbook remix, 10.04 I think
[10:37] <m4r35n357> I am trying to do a test where I share some files in my home dir on the laptop, and see what happens with the other machines
[10:38] <rye> m4r35n357, we are currently investigating the slow performance, at the moment I don't have any more info
[10:38] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: I can tell you what *should* happen. :)
[10:38] <rye> And the things were really fast for me a couple a hours ago
[10:38] <m4r35n357> I've been trying this since yesterday morning, last thin last night I had to abandon the attempt, and have restarted with just the laptop this morning
[10:39] <JamesTait> rye: They were really fast for me just a few minutes ago, when my wife shared her course notes with me so I can print them. :)
[10:39] <rye> JamesTait, I suspect some api slaves are loose
[10:39]  * JamesTait nods
[10:39] <m4r35n357> but the client on the laptop had lost the tick marks on the selected dirs, and the emblems had gone took, so I re-selected the dirs and have been wating ever since . . . .
[10:40] <JamesTait> rye: Losing the tick mark emblems s in Nautilus - could that be because there's no server connection, so the Nautilus plugin can't verify the file status?
[10:40] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, I'm suspicious of the 10.04 client, but can't confirm anything until I get some results
[10:41] <rye> m4r35n357, you can find out the current connection status with "u1sdtool --status" command
[10:41] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, no Idea I'm sure ;)  I'm a first-time user ATM . . .
[10:41] <m4r35n357> of U1 that is
[10:41] <m4r35n357> rye, "bus error"
[10:42] <m4r35n357> the clien telss me there is a sync in progress . .
[10:43] <JamesTait> Ironically, my previously perfect connection has now disconnected. ;)
[10:43] <m4r35n357> I'm thinking about disconnecting and reconnecting, but not sure if it will just make things worse . . .
[10:43] <rye> m4r35n357, is status QUEUE_MANAGER ?
[10:43] <m4r35n357> rye, any comment on the bus error?
[10:44] <m4r35n357> no, "bus error"
[10:44] <m4r35n357> did I remember to say "bus error"?
[10:46] <rye> m4r35n357, well, bus error can be triggered by illegal instruction in the code, given the code is python this looks like something deeper, like dbus
[10:46] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, it's coming up to two hours now, so think I'll try reconnecting . . .
[10:46] <rye> m4r35n357, yes, please try reconnecting, and try quitting syncdaemon completely in order to reset it completely
[10:47] <m4r35n357> the weird thing is, all the files seem to be on the server, so WTF is U1 actually doing, I presume all files are checksummed?
[10:50] <m4r35n357> well I've now restarted the client, and file sync is now disconnected, reconnecting manually as it's not happening automatically . . .
[10:50] <m4r35n357> and now I'm back to "bus error"
[10:50] <m4r35n357> but the client telss me there is a file sync in progress . . .
[10:51] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: There's a problem at the moment with some of our servers not accepting new connections.  We're looking into it.
[10:51] <m4r35n357> I tend to believe u1sdtool
[10:52] <JamesTait> With a big hammer.
[10:53] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, dunno if it's just me, but I've shied away from U1 for some time because of this kind of experience.  The diffference on this occasion is that I have persevered
[10:54] <m4r35n357> are there many non-hardcore users on the system?  I would consider anyone (granny?) who gets all this stuff working first time to be extremely fortunate
[10:56] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Your perserverence is appreciated.  I don't think we have any kind of information that would tell us if our users are "hardcore" or "granny" users. :)
[10:56] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, how will I know when to try again?
[10:58] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: If you have Identica, Twitter or Facebook accounts, we usually put notes out there for severe service disruptions.  We also have a status page here: https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/where-can-i-check-the-status-of-ubuntu-one-services/
[10:58] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Nope, sorry, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[10:58] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, yeah thanks I've seen the status page, says file sync is fine . . . .
[11:01] <m4r35n357> now getting an Oops mesage from u1sdtool, and GUI client won't launch
[11:03] <m4r35n357> Oops, an error ocurred:
[11:03] <m4r35n357> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:03] <m4r35n357> Failure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildSignaled: Process /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon received signal 7
[11:03] <m4r35n357> but my disk light is flickering . .
[11:04] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Right, I might know what that is.
[11:05] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Bear in mind I'm not that familiar with the client side; I think it happens when it's performing a local rescan and the daemon process is too busy processing that to handle the dbus call.
[11:06] <m4r35n357> ok the flickering has stopped and u1sdtool is now responding
[11:08] <m4r35n357> unfortunately I now have two U1 entries under the mail icon, and neither of them shows the client, reckon my GUI is screwed now
[11:09] <m4r35n357> unless you can suggest otherwise, I think it's reboot time . . .
[11:10] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: A logout/login might be equally effective in that case.
[11:10] <rye> what is signal 7???
[11:10] <rye> ah, SIGBUS
[11:10] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, gotcha, I'll see if I can find something to kill first . . . .
[11:11] <JamesTait> rye: Beat me to it. :)
[11:11] <m4r35n357> rye, would that be "bus error" ? ;)
[11:11] <rye> not listed in kill(1)
[11:11] <rye> m4r35n357, yes, exactly
[11:11] <JamesTait> brb
[11:12] <rye> m4r35n357, i think that having a pythin structure misaligned in memory is quite hard, so that's c extension or something. In case it does not start at all with dbus activation I'd suggest restart dbus session, which in our case is logging out and in
[11:13] <m4r35n357> rye, well I'd like to try killing one or both of my stuck clients first, do you know the program name for the client?
[11:13] <m4r35n357> before I destroy the evidence, as it were
[11:15] <m4r35n357> hmm looks like at least one is a zombie, so that's reboot time . . .
[11:16] <m4r35n357> going down . . .
[11:21] <m4r35n357> hmm, that reboot didn't go smoothly, and now I have threee Ubuntu one entries under the mail menu . .
[11:22] <m4r35n357> and now it's down to two, and one of them has a triangle to the left, does that mean it's the "active" one?
[11:23] <m4r35n357> and in the file manager, two of my synced directories have no emblem . . .
[11:24]  * JamesTait really needs to learn more about this side of things.
[11:25] <m4r35n357> well I've really tried hard this time, but now my computer is not rebooting cleanly and the last login took ages
[11:25] <m4r35n357> and I don't know how to fix my mail menu . . . and I still don't have synchronised files
[11:26] <m4r35n357> BTW I've been using Linux since the early nineties, and have worked as system admin and programmer, so I'm not a newbie at this stuff
[11:27] <m4r35n357> but if I had a hosted server, I could have had this done & dusted in about twenty minutes using SSH . . .
[11:27] <m4r35n357> so I don't know what to think at this point . . .
[11:31] <m4r35n357> think I'll reboot again . . .
[11:33] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Sorry, remind me, which version of Ubuntu is this machine running?
[11:35] <m4r35n357> this is Natty, I tried Oneiric yesterday, but changed my mind and restored today
[11:35] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: And are you using standard repositories, no PPAs?
[11:36] <m4r35n357> yep, bog standard
[11:36] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: OK, thanks.
[11:36] <m4r35n357> well the last reboot went cleanly
[11:36] <m4r35n357> and I only have one client entry in the mail menu, and I'm trying to look at stuff uning u1sdtool
[11:37] <JamesTait> I don't have a Natty machine to test locally, but I might be able to run up a VM.
[11:37] <m4r35n357> ah dammit, now I have two again! WTF?
[11:37] <m4r35n357> maybe this is how it's supposed to work ?
[11:38] <m4r35n357> but now I'm getting bus errors all over the place again
[11:43] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Could you confirm which version of ubuntuone-client you have installed please?
[11:43] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: dpkg -l ubuntuone-client
[11:46] <nessita> hello everyone!
[11:46] <gatox> nessita, hi...... saliendo para alla!
[11:46] <nessita> gatox: ack!
[11:47] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, ii  ubuntuone-clie 1.6.2-0ubuntu2 Ubuntu One client
[11:48] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Thanks.
[11:53] <m4r35n357> still stuck here, getting bus errors from u1sdtool, and still two U1 entries under the mail menu, and no HD light flickering, and client won't launch . . .
[11:54] <m4r35n357> perhaps it's just busy, who knows?
[11:56] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: One thing I hadn't realised is that the syncdaemon code is now partly implemented in a C library, rather than all Python. There's an ubuntuone-client-dbg package that has debug symbols which might provide more clues when those bus errors occur.
[11:57] <JamesTait> rye: What do you think? Is it worth installing ubuntuone-client-dbg?
[11:58] <m4r35n357> rebooting again . . .
[11:59] <rye> JamesTait, no, that's debug symbols for gnome extension
[11:59] <JamesTait> Hm, OK.
[12:01] <rodrigo_> aquarius, why do you hate gtk treeviews? anything I can do to help?
[12:02] <aquarius> rodrigo_, because what I want to do is say: here is a python list. Display it. What I actually have to do is create a treeview, a treestore, a treeviewcolumn, a cellrenderer, and stitch them all together. I know *how* to do it, I just hate having to do it :)
[12:02] <rye> JamesTait, and it seems that IS found the reason of partial filesync outage
[12:03] <karni> aquarius: I know the pain
[12:03] <rodrigo_> aquarius, ah, the columns thing indeed is not good, I think you can create it all in glade
[12:03] <rodrigo_> aquarius, and in the code just fill the model
[12:04] <aquarius> rodrigo_, yeah, I can, but this little program is too stupid to need a glade file :)
[12:04] <rodrigo_> ah ok :)
[12:04] <JamesTait> rye: Indeed. So server-side we should be back in business. Not sure about these strange client problems though.
[12:06] <m4r35n357> JamesTait, did some digging before the last reboot, found my /tmp dir was full!  I suspect that was the cause of the bus errors
[12:06] <m4r35n357> but that was from a clean reboot, so I expect it to happen again
[12:06] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: That's worth noting, good catch!
[12:06] <m4r35n357> U1 was the only thing writing to /tmp, which is a 1.5 SHM partition
[12:07] <m4r35n357> 1.5GB I mean
[12:07] <m4r35n357> in fact it's already up to 1.3GB now, without me doing anything
[12:07] <m4r35n357> . . . . and now it's full again
[12:08] <m4r35n357> and I get a bus error
[12:08] <m4r35n357> so this is all automatic, not sure how to avoid it
[12:09] <m4r35n357> none of these figures exceed the U1 specs as far as I know
[12:11] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: I don't know enough about the client to understand what might be doing that, but I'm trying to get hold of someone who will.
[12:11] <m4r35n357> now, I would like to start over with the main directories, but I can't stop them synchronising once the client is crippled like this
[12:11] <m4r35n357> unless I reboot and get in really quickly . . . don't like that idea
[12:12] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, /tmp full of what?
[12:12] <m4r35n357> data files, presumably from u1 but I can't prove it
[12:12] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, with "bus errors" you mean dbus?
[12:13] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, give me one example of file name
[12:13] <facundobatista> there in /tmp, I mean
[12:13] <rye> facundobatista, u1sdtool gets killed with SIGBUS
[12:14] <m4r35n357> facundobatista,  tmpRoAw4D
[12:15] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, yes, that can be syncdaemon... or any python process using the standard library tempfile call
[12:15] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, can you kill syncdaemon and see if /tmp keeps growing?
[12:15] <m4r35n357> I've managed to stop the dirs updating so I think I'll reboot again and see if it happens again
[12:15] <m4r35n357> facundobatista, it's already full, happens in a few seconds
[12:16] <JamesTait> facundobatista: Background info on "bus error": http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/09/%23ubuntuone.html#t10:41
[12:17] <JamesTait> facundobatista: Actually this might be more useful: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/09/%23ubuntuone.html#t11:03
[12:18] <facundobatista> JamesTait, maybe dbus fails because /tmp is full?
[12:19] <m4r35n357> well the reboot was not smooth either
[12:19] <JamesTait> facundobatista: Seems likely, yes.
[12:19] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, did you kill syncdaemon?
[12:19] <m4r35n357> the cleint process was still open when I rebooted
[12:19] <rye> m4r35n357, are you syncing some file that is around 1.5Gb ? at the moment?
[12:19] <m4r35n357> and I had to use magic sysrq to finish the boot
[12:20] <m4r35n357> rye, no, I would have thought of that ;)
[12:20] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, can you please kill syncdaemon and let us know if /tmp filling stopped or continues?
[12:22] <rye> m4r35n357, any 5 files that will give this amount? The uploads are happening in parallel
[12:22] <m4r35n357> yeah I've discovered some files that should not have been there, now deleted
[12:23] <m4r35n357> I'm just doing the smaller directory ATM
[12:23] <m4r35n357> I think I deleted the big files while I was testing Oneiric yesterday, and when I restored of course they were still there
[12:24] <m4r35n357> none of this is over my limits though
[12:24] <m4r35n357> and none of the files is itself big enough to fill /tmp
[12:24] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, as rye said, uploads are done in parallel, 10 at a time, so 10 files could fill your /tmp if its slow
[12:25] <m4r35n357> but if the whole dir is being processed then /tmp will not be big enough
[12:25] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, you can change that in the config
[12:25] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, sorry, not if your /tmp is slow, but if its small
[12:25] <m4r35n357> facundobatista, didn't know there was any config
[12:25] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, yes, there is
[12:26] <m4r35n357> facundobatista, OK, any clues? ;)
[12:27] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, check /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf for global setttings, and you can use any of those in your ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf if you want to change something specifically for any user
[12:27] <nessita> mandel: ping
[12:27] <facundobatista> I normally touch the config for me only
[12:27] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, the config for the simultaneous uploads is "simult_transfers"
[12:28] <facundobatista> (which actually affects downloads too)
[12:28] <m4r35n357> facundobatista, OK thanks but I think I'll work with the defaults ;)
[12:29] <m4r35n357> tmp folder is well behaved now, so once this is all synced up I can fire up the netbook and see how it all works . .
[12:31] <m4r35n357> OK so is there any way this /tmp full condition can be checked in the client?
[12:32] <m4r35n357> looks like it's just chucking stuff in there without looking
[12:32] <m4r35n357> then the process blocks
[12:33] <m4r35n357> in such a way that it can't be killed, u1sdtool shows bus errors, and rebooting is also blocked
[12:34] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Sounds like a subject for a bug report.
[12:35] <facundobatista> m4r35n357, the problem we have in the client is that if the compressing fails, we leave the half compressed file there
[12:35] <facundobatista> actually taking space
[12:35] <facundobatista> the fix for this is actually already coded, will be in trunk today or tomorrow
[12:35] <facundobatista> nessita, ^
[12:36] <JamesTait> Even better! :)
[12:36] <m4r35n357> OK so some good will come of all this!
[12:37] <m4r35n357> now I can experiment and find out how ubuntuone actually works ;)  Thanks everyone, hopefully this is the end of my whining!
[12:38] <afeijo> hi folks. My u1 installed in my android never sent my pictures automatically, yet it is set to do it. What can I do?
[12:39] <JamesTait> m4r35n357: Thanks for your patience through this, and feel free to drop in again if you continue to have problems.
[12:40] <karni> afeijo: hi!
[12:40] <karni> afeijo: What phone model do you have? :)
[12:40] <afeijo> motorola droid 1
[12:40] <afeijo> android 2.2
[12:40] <karni> afeijo: Ah, right. Do you have any file browser?
[12:40] <m4r35n357> ok and thanks for you guys for your patience ;)  I might have a question or two, but I think this is the main issue I've been seeing
[12:40] <afeijo> yes
[12:40] <nessita> facundobatista: I need the review!!!
[12:40] <m4r35n357> in particular, I don't expect the 10.04 client to play well . . .
[12:40] <nessita> facundobatista: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/compress-flush-to-file/+merge/81595
[12:41] <karni> afeijo: Could you please tell me if your picture path is /mnt/sdcard/DCIM or /mnt/sdcard/dcim ?
[12:41] <facundobatista> nessita, I know, I have it queued
[12:46] <nessita> facundobatista: thanks!
[12:46] <afeijo> karni, sorry the delay, I confused my devices. I have a file browser in my Xoom, I just installed in my Droid
[12:46] <karni> afeijo: no probs, perfect.
[12:46] <afeijo> karni, my pics are at /mnt/sdcard/dcim/Camera
[12:47] <karni> afeijo: so, dcim is lowercase, right?
[12:47] <afeijo> right
[12:48] <karni> afeijo: It's an Ubuntu One Files bug, it has been fixed in the upcoming update.
[12:48] <afeijo> karni, how long until that update will be released?
[12:48] <karni> afeijo: I hope to release it shortly, perhaps this week.
[12:48] <afeijo> great
[12:48] <afeijo> I'm waiting for it for months hehe
[12:49] <afeijo> karni, I visited u1 website and noticed it now has a windows version! tonight I'll test it at home :)
[12:49] <karni> afeijo: Sorry, I'll put more focus on frequent updates.
[12:49] <karni> afeijo: Enjoy! :) We have a team of great engineers here working on the Windows version, correct!
[12:49] <afeijo> karni, this week is great, np
[12:49] <thisfred> nessita: package arrived yesterday
[12:50] <thisfred> haven't opened yet, will do so now
[12:50] <nessita> thisfred: WOW, thanks!
[12:50] <nessita> thisfred: is it too big? (drop the boxes, of course)
[12:50] <afeijo> thisfred, tape the unboxing hehehe
[12:50] <afeijo> videotape
[12:50] <thisfred> nessita: without the boxes it will be fine. 2 controllers: check
[12:50] <nessita> thisfred: awesome
[12:51] <afeijo> karni, do you have a tablet?
[12:52] <thisfred> nessita: oh, and so you know: Anthony gave me the kindle cover
[12:52] <nessita> thisfred: double awesome!
[12:55] <karni> afeijo: I have a tablet.
[12:56] <afeijo> karni, I got my 1st one last week, loving it... so much to figure out, I don't know the best apps yet, etc
[12:56] <karni> afeijo: I use my Adam for reading, really :)
[12:56] <afeijo> I tested the kindle app, very nice
[12:57] <karni> afeijo: I use Aldiko :)
[13:06] <alecu> hello #ubuntuone! hello gals and boys!
[13:14] <nessita> hello alecu!
[13:14] <nessita> alecu: how is it going?
[13:14] <gatox> alecu, hi!
[13:14] <alecu> nessita, great!
[13:15] <alecu> hi there gatox, I'll do your review today
[13:15] <gatox> alecu, you read my mind :P
[13:20] <mandel> alecu, nessita, gatox I forgot to tell you that today I have a day off, is a hliday in Madrid :P
[13:21] <mandel> sorry..
[13:21] <nessita> mandel: but... is it a national holiday?
[13:21] <nessita> mandel: I googled and did not find it
[13:23] <mandel> nessita, here is the laboral calendar http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/Masinformacion/CalendarioLaboral/Fiestas/index.htm?Ejercicio=2011&prov=28&loc=280790000
[13:24] <nessita> mandel: if I understand that properly, today is not a national holiday but a local holiday?
[13:24] <mandel> nessita, yes, we can take those, right?
[13:24] <mandel> nessita, cause if we cant I have been doing this all year..
[13:24] <nessita> mandel: from my understanding, no, but we should confirm
[13:24] <mandel> nessita, ups! yes, let me ask hr
[13:31] <nessita> me
[13:32] <gatox> me
[13:33] <gatox> alecu, mandel ?
[13:33] <alecu> me
[13:34] <nessita> DONE: bug #887150, reviews, bug triage, teaching duties
[13:34] <nessita> TODO: start digging into packaging qt4reactor, start moving QT bits from installer to sso
[13:34] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[13:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 887150 in ubuntuone-client "Windows: test failure at tests.syncdaemon.test_action_queue.TestZipQueue.test_compress_gets_compressed_data (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887150
[13:34] <nessita> NEXT: gatox
[13:34] <gatox> DONE:
[13:34] <gatox> Fix some branches (removing mixed changes). Work on unicode issues.
[13:34] <gatox> TODO:
[13:34] <gatox> Keep fixing unicode issues.
[13:34] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[13:35] <gatox> No
[13:35] <gatox> alecu, go
[13:35] <alecu> DONE: fight with qtnetwork + qtreactor
[13:35] <alecu> TODO: backport server time sync
[13:35] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[13:36] <nessita> alecu: why fighting? is not working? :-/
[13:37] <alecu> nessita, qtreactor seems to be dirty and won't shut down properly when using it with qtnetwork
[13:37] <nessita> alecu: what a ... pain
[13:37] <alecu> nessita, so a few DelayedCalls end up as errors in the tests runs I do with qtnetwork
[13:37] <nessita> alecu: so, you're debugging qt4reactor, basically? :-/
[13:37] <alecu> nessita, not yet
[13:38] <alecu> nessita, I thought the problem was with my mockers, so I started doing some tests with libsoup, but I run into issues like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/842614
[13:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 842614 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Nightlies build failures in maverick and oneiric (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Medium,Triaged]
[13:38] <alecu> and this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/nautilus-list/2011-October/msg00007.html
[13:38] <nessita> looking
[13:39] <alecu> nessita, is that the problem that dobey mentioned about GI + twisted?
[13:39] <nessita> alecu: ok, that is an issue when mixing static and dynamic gobject binding
[13:39] <alecu> nessita, right. But it seems that the twisted glib reactor is using the static bindings
[13:39] <mandel> me
[13:40] <mandel> TODO: fin out if I'm on holidays
[13:40] <nessita> alecu: yes, known bug... dobey will have that fix as one the first things when he comes back, but may take a week
[13:40] <mandel> meh, I'll continue when is sorted out
[13:45] <nessita> ok, mandel is oficially on holiday today (btw, did you add the request in the admin?)
[13:45] <mandel> nessita, yes :)
[13:47] <mandel> nessita, it would be nice to explain gatox and alecu the confusion so that they take their holidays correctly :)
[13:47] <nessita> mandel: yeah, I'm telling them in our private .ar channel ;-)
[13:47] <alecu> mandel, we don't have "local" holidays, so don't worry about that :-)
[13:48] <mandel> nessita, oh, the secret channel.. hehe
[13:48] <mandel> alecu, yo know, lazy spaniards :P
[13:53] <nessita> alecu: so, going back to the glib issue. You're trying to run tests in the controlpanel with qtnetwork?
[13:55] <nessita> alecu: or just using trial + qtnetwrok?
[13:56] <alecu> nessita, in sso, with runtests -qt (using qtnetwork).
[13:56] <alecu> nessita, let me upload a branch.
[13:56] <nessita> alecu: right... so trial will not work with dynamic glib :-/
[13:57] <nessita> I'm wonder what thing is importing the dynamic bindings
[13:57] <alecu> nessita, well, I am importing the dynamic bindings when trying to use libsoup.
[13:59] <alecu> nessita, here's the code so far: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntu-sso-client/proxy-web-client/
[13:59] <nessita> looking
[14:01] <alecu> nessita, and here's the error when running u1trial with the qt reactor: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/733089/
[14:01] <alecu> I'm running it with: u1trial --reactor=qt4 --gui ubuntu_sso/utils/tests/test_webclient.py
[14:02] <nessita> alecu: I have the same output, looking a bit more
[14:04] <nessita> alecu: a tiny note, the tests for webclient should be inside the webclient folder
[14:04] <alecu> noted
[14:06] <Beret> hi
[14:06] <nessita> alecu: so, what of you fix all the "valid" errors? you still get the dirty reactor ones?
[14:06] <nessita> alecu: I
[14:06] <nessita> oops
[14:06] <nessita> alecu: I'm just running tests for get_url like this:
[14:06] <nessita> u1trial --reactor=qt4 ubuntu_sso/utils/tests/test_webclient.py -t WebClientTestCase.test_get_url
[14:07] <nessita> and I'm having an AttributeError
[14:07] <alecu> nessita, yes, I comment those other tests, but the first one is still unclean when it tears down, hence the error.
[14:07] <nessita> ah
[14:07] <nessita> debugging a bit more...
[14:07] <Beret> I have a scenario that breaks ubuntu one
[14:08] <nessita> alecu: out of the box questions: don't you need to shutdown the mockwebservice?
[14:08] <nessita> ah, you do, sorry
[14:08] <alecu> Beret, please tell us
[14:08] <alecu> nessita, yes, on addCleanup
[14:09] <nessita> yes yes
[14:09] <Beret> I had a machine that was syncing ~/Music - I then did a fresh install on that machine and chose not to sync ~/Music from U1. I logged onto the U1 web site and turned off syncing of ~/Music. I then rebuilt the ~/Music folder from scratch on the new machine (cleaning things up) and then right-clicked, u1, sync this folder on the machine.
[14:09] <Beret> Turns out, the machine says it's fully synced
[14:09] <Beret> the folder is empty on the u1 site
[14:09] <Beret> so it's thoroughly confused
[14:10] <Beret> my machine thinks it's synced when it isn't, and there are no files on the website
[14:11] <Beret> u1sdtool --list-folders is showing only one Music folder shared
[14:11] <nessita> Beret: what do you mean with "onto the U1 web site and turned off syncing of ~/Music"?
[14:12] <Beret> login to one.ubuntu.com, go to files, click "More" under the folder and hit "Stop syncing this folder"
[14:12] <alecu> rye, duanedesign: Beret is describing above a complex synchronization issue. Have you guys seen anything like that?
[14:12] <Beret> nessita, I don't see a "delete" anywhere, so that's the best I could do
[14:12] <nessita> alecu: so, running the suite for WebClientTestCase with all the tests commented out but setUp as given will not give dirty reactor
[14:12] <Beret> my intent was to nuke hte files on u1
[14:12] <Beret> so I could resync the good folder
[14:12] <nessita> Beret: right, so, the ~/Music folder no longer is listed on the web site, then?
[14:13] <Beret> it wasn't no
[14:13] <Beret> it is now of course
[14:13] <Beret> but it's empty and my client isn't uploading files as it should
[14:13] <Beret> it's showing no files on one.u.c
[14:13] <rye> Beret, are you using windows or Ubuntu ?
[14:13] <nessita> Beret: right, can you please restart the client? u1sdtool -q && u1sdtool -c
[14:13] <alecu> nessita, right. And if you enable the first test, and in "ubuntu_sso/utils/webclient/__init__.py" you uncomment the line 30 and comment the 31, it works fine
[14:13] <Beret> rye, smack
[14:13] <Beret> rye, j/k oneiric
[14:13] <rye> nessita, this is UDF
[14:13] <rye> ah
[14:14] <rye> UDF filtering
[14:14] <alecu> nessita, (using the twisted web client instead of qtnetwork)
[14:14] <rye> Beret, ok, then this is most likely bug #869920
[14:14] <nessita> rye: yeah, my thought exactly
[14:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 869920 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Files in new UDFs are not uploaded due to filtering (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869920
[14:14] <rye> grrrr
[14:14] <rye> nessita, can we get SRU for that?
[14:15] <nessita> rye: you will need to chase facundobatista for that one :-/
[14:15] <Beret> rye, so I should be able to restart u1 services and it'll sync?
[14:15] <nessita> rye: I'm happy to help making reviews and all, of course
[14:15] <nessita> facundobatista: any ETA on the localrescan/UDF unsubcribe bug?
[14:15] <nessita> alecu: confirmed, looking a bit more
[14:15] <facundobatista> nessita, not at all
[14:16] <nessita> facundobatista: but there is no plan to have that done, eventually?
[14:17] <nessita> alecu: so... I added a "return defer.succeed('test')" in the qtnetwork request method
[14:17] <nessita> and that makes the test work ok (it fails due to assertion error, but no dirty reactor)
[14:17] <facundobatista> nessita, yes! eventually
[14:18] <nessita> alecu: so I'm wondering if we don't need to close/shutdown/something else  the QNetworkRequest
[14:20] <nessita> facundobatista: but do you have an estimation of when? this month? next? next year?
[14:20] <nessita> :-)
[14:20] <alecu> nessita, that sounds possible... but the delayed call traceback suggests that the problem is not on the client, but on the server:
[14:20] <facundobatista> nessita, no, I don't
[14:20] <alecu>       File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/web/server.py", line 219, in render
[14:20] <alecu> (the mock server)
[14:20] <alecu> Hmmmm...
[14:20] <nessita> alecu: more "guessing": perhaps the request is still "connected" to th server
[14:20] <alecu> I may try having it download some other url
[14:21] <nessita> alecu: so the server can't shutdown because it has pending stuff "in it"
[14:23] <alecu> nessita, I'll take a look at that.
[14:23] <nessita> alecu: another question, shouldn't this self.nam.finished.connect(reply_finished) be reply.finished.connect(reply_finished) ?
[14:23] <alecu> nessita, anyway, I think we should be working on this later, since today I'm supposed to backport the timesync stuff.
[14:24] <alecu> nessita, I tried that too. According to the docs both signals are sent at the same time, the first one with reply as the only arg, the second one with no args.
[14:25] <nessita> alecu: ah, ok. And ack to the backport, I can give any help you need about it
[14:33] <alecu> nessita, I think I might have figured it out
[14:33] <alecu> nessita, I've straced the test run, and the socket is not being closed
[14:33] <alecu> nessita, so I looked into the data stream, and it's HTTP/1.1
[14:34] <alecu> nessita, that means that more than one http request may be done on the same connection
[14:34] <alecu> nessita, so the networkaccessmanager keeps the connection open, so it can do another http request to the same server
[14:35] <alecu> so, it's a good thing, because the webclients would be faster. But it's annoying for the tests :-)
[14:36] <nessita> alecu: great news! (in a average)
[14:57] <scarleo> Hi, I can't get my U1 to upload a file, it's a backup from evolution, 497.3 MB. If I kill the daemon and then start it again it starts but then it just stops after a while and won't continue
[14:58] <scarleo> well the daemon doesn't stop but the transfer stops and daemon is idling
[14:58] <scarleo> Is the file to big to upload?
[15:07] <alecu> nessita, I added just one line to the webservermock that fixed this issue!
[15:07] <alecu> request.setHeader("connection", "close")
[15:08] <nessita> alecu: YOU ROCK BIG TIME
[15:08] <alecu> nessita, and now, I'll put this in the freezer and get porting.
[15:08] <nessita> alecu: YOU ROCK EVEN MORE
[15:08] <nessita> :-)
[15:08]  * alecu headbangs
[15:08]  * alecu misses his very long hair. It's been... 10 years!
[15:50] <alecu> gatox, approved. It was a really small branch without the other branch merged in!!!!
[15:50] <gatox> alecu, thanks!
[16:16] <rakshasa> Hello?
[16:21] <rakshasa> Anyone for a little support?
[16:24] <rakshasa> A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse
[16:25] <duanedesign> hello rakshasa
[16:25] <rakshasa> Hello again
[16:26] <rakshasa> Did you recieve my mail
[16:26] <duanedesign> i did. I just responded :)
[16:26] <rakshasa> Good cause I'v traced it back to the DBCouch not willing to start
[16:26] <rakshasa> Destop couch
[16:27] <rakshasa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733229/
[16:28] <rakshasa> But i'm stuck there
[16:31] <duanedesign> rakshasa: could you please open a terminal and ttry these commands
[16:31] <duanedesign> killall beam.smp; killall beam
[16:32] <duanedesign> then:   rm ~/.config/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.ini
[16:32] <duanedesign> and:  dbus-send --session --dest=org.desktopcouch.CouchDB --print-reply --type=method_call / org.desktopcouch.CouchDB.getPort
[16:34] <duanedesign> put in your username:  xdg-open file:///home/YOURUSERNAME/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html
[16:34] <duanedesign> your username on your computer
[16:34] <duanedesign> the last one will confirm whether or not desktopcouch is running
[16:35] <duanedesign> if the couch interface opens it is running
[16:35] <rakshasa> Still didn't start yet
[16:35] <rakshasa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733235/
[16:36] <rakshasa> And the local html said the same that it hasnt started yet
[16:36] <duanedesign> rakshasa: ping
[16:36] <duanedesign> oops
[16:36] <duanedesign> rye: ping
[16:37] <rye> mornign
[16:37] <rye> oops
[16:37] <rye> duanedesign, pong
[16:37] <duanedesign> goooood morning rye
[16:37] <duanedesign> rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733235/
[16:38] <rye> rakshasa, hi, could you please pastebin the contents of ~/.cache/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.log.1 ?
[16:40] <rakshasa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733240/
[16:42] <rye> rakshasa, ok, nothing peculiar in the log, looks like it was working (I suppose 10 minutes ago), is there any beam.smp process?
[16:42] <rye> or beam
[16:44] <rakshasa> No no processes with beam.smp or beam where killed
[16:44] <rakshasa> no process found
[16:44] <rye> rakshasa, ok, let's start directly - /usr/lib/desktop-couch/desktopcouch-service (in a separate terminal, it will hold it)
[16:46] <rakshasa> same prob http://paste.ubuntu.com/733251/
[16:47] <duanedesign> rakshasa: oh wait, you are behind a proxy?
[16:48] <rakshasa> Yes but that has never been an issue before
[16:49] <rakshasa> to my knowledge db couch connects on 127 local and previously that always worked
[16:49] <rakshasa> I did however see a keyring error in a evolution mail log
[16:49] <rakshasa> If that helps?
[16:50] <rakshasa> But iv been unable to reproduce the errer
[16:50] <rakshasa> *error
[16:51] <rye> rakshasa, are there any desktopcouch-service processes running?
[16:52] <rye> rakshasa, you are right, proxy does not make it fail, something else does
[16:52] <rye> i wonder whether couchdb-bin package is actually installed
[16:52] <rakshasa> Yeah couch has always worked for me
[16:52] <duanedesign> rakshasa: have you followed these steps before: https://one.ubuntu.com/help/tutorial/contact-sync-for-ubuntu-1004-lts/
[16:53] <rakshasa> Not yet I will do them right now
[16:55] <rakshasa> Installing 1 of 52...
[16:56] <rakshasa> I will restart my os after its done
[16:58] <rye> rakshasa, hm, does it install couchdb-bin as part of upgrade?
[17:02] <rakshasa> Back
[17:02] <rakshasa> Succes
[17:02] <duanedesign> nice
[17:03] <rakshasa> My ubuntu couch seems to be running
[17:03] <rakshasa> So an out of date package was the issue
[17:03] <rakshasa> Seems strange since its a local process
[17:04] <rakshasa> To my knowledge
[17:22] <rakshasa> duanedesign ?
[17:22] <rakshasa> 1 more question
[17:22] <duanedesign> yes
[17:23] <rakshasa> I got a todo list ./home/USERNAME/.evolution/tasks/local/system/tasks.ics but its not loaded by my evolution mail (i know its not desktopcouch specific)
[17:23] <rakshasa> My contact get loaded agiang
[17:23] <rakshasa> *contacts
[17:23] <rakshasa> *again
[17:28] <duanedesign> rakshasa: did you create it in Evolution or are you importing it?
[17:28] <rakshasa> Created it in evolution
[17:29] <rakshasa> But evolution only seems to load contacts again, not todo list
[17:31] <rakshasa> Yes
[17:31] <rakshasa> Problem solved
[17:31] <rakshasa> The file was locked by me
[17:32] <rakshasa> Thanks for all the support guys, you guys were awesome
[17:33] <duanedesign> aha
[17:33] <duanedesign> rakshasa: awesome
[17:33] <duanedesign> glad yyou got it working.
[17:34] <rakshasa> and I learned not to confuse ubuntuone with the local couch
[17:35] <rakshasa> :p
[17:56] <alecu> nessita, ping
[17:57] <alecu> nessita, I'm working on the ubuntuone-storage-protocol/stable-1-6
[17:57] <alecu> nessita, and tests on that branch are not passing, because that stable branch is not calling "yield super(...).setUp()" like it should.
[17:57] <alecu> nessita, so, how should I approach this?
[17:57] <nessita> alecu: yeah :-/
[17:57] <alecu> nessita, should I fix these tests in my branch?
[17:58] <nessita> yeah...
[17:58] <alecu> nessita, ok.
[17:58] <nessita> (I know, it would be a pain)
[17:58] <nessita> specially for u1client
[17:58] <alecu> nessita, ugh!
[17:58] <alecu> nessita, my question was if stable-1-6 branch was being built using a previous u1devtool
[17:59] <nessita> alecu: no, is built using latest, afaik
[17:59] <alecu> nessita, perhaps for u1-client I can work on a different branch first, that fixes all those tests
[17:59] <alecu> nessita, and then work on the branch that fixes this.
[17:59] <alecu> nessita, I have no preference, so that's why I'm asking
[17:59] <nessita> alecu: in trunk we have all fixed in every project, but stable branches are not fixed
[18:00] <nessita> alecu: so you will need to fix every stable branch in similar ways
[18:00] <alecu> nessita, right, I know that trunk is fixed, so I meant different branches to fix all the stable u1-client tests
[18:00] <alecu> nessita, and then different branches with this bugfix
[18:01] <nessita> alecu: a single branch will be better for the SRU process
[18:01] <alecu> nessita, great, that's what I needed to know.
[18:02] <alecu> nessita, thanks a bunch!
[18:02] <nessita> alecu: thank *you*
[18:05] <alecu> nessita, another thing: I'm getting tons of lint issues in the stable-1-4 branch, probably because of the newer pylint version.
[18:17] <alecu> nessita, this is the place where the failing checks were removed in stable-1-6: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/stable-1-6/revision/122#setup.py
[18:18] <alecu> nessita, so, what shall we do with that in stable-1-4?
[18:23] <nessita> alecu: looking
[18:24] <nessita> alecu: I'm not sure what you'er asking (after looking at the url)
[18:24] <nessita> alecu: need to skype/mumble?
[18:25] <alecu> nessita, sure, let's
[18:26] <nessita> alecu: skype for me today, I'm with the laptop
[18:26] <nessita> looking the headset
[19:16] <nessita> alecu: shall I review https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/timestamp-autofix-1-4/+merge/81758 ?
[19:17] <alecu> nessita, it has the issue with pylint
[19:17] <alecu> nessita, I have not tested it in maverick yet, it's still downloading.
[19:18] <nessita> alecu: ok then, I'll wait
[19:36] <nicf> Hi, I'm having trouble with the music store. Is someone around who can help?
[19:57] <nessita> @ping
[19:57] <ubot4> pong
[19:59] <nessita> @ping
[19:59] <ubot4> pong
[20:30] <gatox> EOD! bye all
[21:30]  * nessita -> eods
[23:31] <amusselman> Hey guys, can I point Ubuntu One at other directories in my home directory for backup?
[23:32] <Chipaca> amusselman: yes, or no
[23:32] <Chipaca> amusselman: that depends on what you mean by 'backup'
[23:32] <Chipaca> amusselman: you can sync arbitrary folders in your home directory. But it's not backup -- there is backup built on top of Ubuntu One, but it's a separate thing.
[23:32] <amusselman> Chipaca:  I mean for incremental backups to the Ubuntu One "cloud"
[23:33] <amusselman> Alright
[23:33] <Chipaca> amusselman: I'd try deja-dup's Ubuntu One mode
[23:33] <amusselman> Okay
[23:33] <Chipaca> amusselman: it's got some glitches, but it essentially does what you describe
[23:33] <amusselman> I don't want to roll up "backups"
[23:33] <Chipaca> amusselman: (the glitches are more on the server side, and we're working on them -- meanwhile, if it gives you a 500, retry)
[23:34] <amusselman> Maybe the thing I want is not called "backup"
[23:34] <amusselman> I want to sync my files
[23:34] <amusselman> up to an off-site location
[23:35] <amusselman> Oh, I see that is exactly what you are saying
[23:35] <amusselman> Thanks Chipaca
[23:35] <Chipaca> amusselman: if it's just sync, then, in nautilus, right click on the folder, ubuntu one, sync this folder
[23:37] <amusselman> I want rolling syncs
[23:37] <amusselman> that if something disastrous happened will allow me to reinstate my files
[23:56] <amusselman> Chipaca: thanks, deja-dup looks like it does what I want.