[00:04] <falken_> If I run glxinfo | grep direct on the console I get the following:
[00:04] <falken_> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[00:04] <falken_>   Major opcode of failed request:  135 (GLX)
[00:04] <falken_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[00:04] <falken_>   Serial number of failed request:  12
[00:04] <falken_>   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[00:30] <falken_> ok goodnight all, got to go.
[01:36] <Space-Duck> Is it possible to make applications open in the same position they were closed in? Or something similar?
[01:36] <Space-Duck> I have dual monitors, and I like my web browser on the right... it always opens on the left though.
[02:06] <yrg> knome, thank you. :)
[02:48] <juggler> I was trying to download the iso image via torrent, but it sems that the tracker was down. Can anyone else access the tracker?
[02:53] <ToZ> juggler, yes I can access it. downloading now.
[02:53] <juggler> Toz: I could download the torrent file, but the program could not access the tracker
[02:54] <ToZ> juggler: I'm access tracker fine (http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969). Can you access other torrent trackers?
[02:55] <juggler> toz: ok hey.... it is working now, I feel kinda silly
[02:55] <ToZ> juggler: maybe a hiccup?
[02:56] <juggler> toz: well let me rephrase that, I can access the announce page, but my program (utorrent) is still having trouble let me fiddle with it some more...
[02:57] <juggler> before I couldn't even access the announce page
[03:03] <juggler> toz: I still can't get it working (every one in a while, the annouce page does not load), so I am just going to download it directly, thanks for your help
[03:10] <Lomax> Hello everyone! I've just finished upgrading to 11.10 (from 10.04) and it's great in many ways - but the UI appears very squished up with very little separation between text and menu items. How can I increase the "padding" in the UI?
[03:10] <asterismo> hi people
[03:11] <asterismo> i have an issue with the radiance theme (appearently the only one that supports gtk3 apps like evolution)
[03:11] <asterismo> i would like to fix some ugly colors in the window buttons applet in the xfce panel
[03:11] <asterismo> i could send a screenshot
[03:12] <asterismo> is someone familiar with editing applets colors?
[03:24] <asterismo> anyone?
[04:34] <Lomax> Hello everyone! I've just finished upgrading to 11.10 (from 10.04) and it's great in many ways - but the UI appears very squished up with very little separation between text and menu items. How can I increase the "padding" in the UI?
[07:14] <homebrewcider> hi all, new installation of xubuntu 11.04, hd6670 vid card, lcd monitor shows up as crt. when you put 16 x 9 resolutions in, it goes way over screen, but with 4 x 3 res in, it stretches to fill the screen which looks wrong
[07:16] <Sysi> press autoconfiguration button on your screen or try 16:10?
[07:18] <homebrewcider> hmm, autoconfiguration button?
[07:19] <Sysi> most screens have it, usually labelled "AUTO"
[07:20] <homebrewcider> on my monitor?
[07:20] <Sysi> yes
[07:21] <homebrewcider> doesn't have it
[07:25] <homebrewcider> thanks, might have fixed it some other way, hmmm, not sure
[07:25] <homebrewcider> thanks anyway for the effort
[07:27] <homebrewcider> ok, resolution seems to be okay. just can't get it recognised through dvi, set "detect displays" but doesn't show up
[07:57] <ball> homebrewcider: Perhaps you're using a 16:9 mode that is too large for your screen?
[07:57] <ball> homebrewcider: Which modes have you tried?
[08:04] <homebrewcider> 16:10 is on now, all good as I said, dvi is the problem now
[08:07] <ball> Why is DVI a problem?
[08:08] <ball> Oh I see.  Do you know the native size of your screen?
[08:09] <homebrewcider> 1680x1050
[08:09] <stochastic> hi, my window borders have disappeared on my new laptop after installing the 3rd-party nvidia drivers.  Unity and Gnome both have window borders appearing.
[08:09] <ball> Gosh, that's a big 'un.
[08:11] <Sysi> stochastic: we only know xfce :/
[08:11] <Sysi> oh, misunderstood
[08:11] <stochastic> Sysi, sorry, the xfce window borders are the ones not there
[08:11] <Sysi> xfwm4 --replace
[08:12] <stochastic> aahhh, thanks, that works
[08:12] <stochastic> should I expect that behaviour be required on every login?
[08:13] <Sysi> no, but you maybe should save session on next logout
[08:14] <stochastic> cool, thanks.
[08:14] <stochastic> oh, Sysi, what's your current xfce theme?
[08:15] <Sysi> greybird
[08:15] <stochastic> cool
[08:16] <Sysi> nicest gtk2+3 one
[10:02] <plasticdoc> Hello all. Is there a way to auto-center the bottom launcher after defining it as 100% length ?
[10:03] <well_laid_lawn> I haven't found a way yet
[10:05] <TheSheep> you can put a separator on each side and set it to autoexpand
[10:05] <plasticdoc> So in order to have centered contents the the bottom launcher must be kept small and with auto length checked?
[11:19] <falken_> Hi all
[11:19] <falken_> Can someone help me with an OpenGL / Xubuntu problem?
[11:20] <well_laid_lawn> falken_: depends on what the problem is
[11:20] <falken_> :) OK here it is:
[11:21] <falken_> Since upgrading to the newest xubuntu release opengl is not working for me at all. Is there any control panel for it I can tweak? I'm using  an RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] on a toshiba satellite with the latest xubuntu release
[11:22] <falken_> Open GL xscreensavers not working, or any other software that requires openGL. (e.g. GNUbik does not open at all when launched)
[11:24] <well_laid_lawn> seems there's some issues with ati cards and the recent kernels from what I've seen lately - I don't use ati tho
[11:25] <falken_> Yeah it's a pity. Do you know if it's something that's likely to be fixed?
[11:26] <falken_> Is it any clue to my problem that when I run "glxinfo | grep direct" in the console I get the following:
[11:26] <falken_> BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[11:26] <falken_>   Major opcode of failed request:  135 (GLX)
[11:26] <falken_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[11:26] <falken_>   Serial number of failed request:  12
[11:26] <falken_>   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[11:27] <knome> !pastebin | falken_
[11:28] <falken_> ok sorry - total noob here
[11:41] <well_laid_lawn> not having glx working isn't good falken_
[11:42] <falken_> yeah i know, it's bad :(
[11:43] <well_laid_lawn> falken_: which driver are you using ?
[11:44] <falken_> I don't know. That's part of the problem.
[11:44] <falken_> Like I said, is there a control panel or something I can look at for graphics driver?
[11:46] <well_laid_lawn> I always use intel - there should be a proprietry driver option in the menu iirc
[11:46] <well_laid_lawn> maybe an ati user could give a clue...
[11:46] <falken_> What do you mean by "menu iirc"?
[11:47] <falken_> Sorry, total noobcake here when it comes to xubuntu
[11:49] <TheSheep> falken_: "iirc" means "if I remember correctly"
[11:50] <TheSheep> falken_: you should have an option in system->hardware drivers
[11:50] <TheSheep> or something like that
[11:55] <falken_> I have been trying to post a screengrab - but anyway: I do not have Hardware Drivers listed in the System menu
[11:55] <falken_> Is it somewhere else?
[11:58] <falken_> Here is my menu: http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/1690/screentn.png
[12:16] <ablomen> falken_, settings => additional drivers
[12:17] <falken_> I have used that wizard already and it just brings up a suggested driver download for a software modem. :(
[12:19] <falken_> Is there a xorg control panel I can access?
[12:20] <falken_> Or does oneric even use xorg ?? :)
[12:30] <falken_> hi all, anyone home?
[12:31] <falken_> I'm looking for help with an opengl issue - it's simply not working after i upgraded from lynx to oscelot
[12:31] <falken_> Is there somewhere I can change video card drivers?
[12:32] <falken_> OR edit settings? LIke a xorg control panel?
[12:35] <ablomen> falken_, do you have an nvidia card?
[12:36] <falken_> no ati
[12:36] <ablomen> oh ok, sorry can't help you then
[12:36] <falken_> I'm using  an RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] on a toshiba satellite with the latest xubuntu release
[12:37] <ablomen> there might be some help here >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto/ATI
[12:37] <falken_> thank you very much i will look here...
[13:34] <sutija> hi guys
[13:34] <sutija> i need one important question to ask
[13:34] <sutija> Does anybody knows how to fix battery issue in xubuntu 10.04
[13:35] <sutija> installed on EEEPC 4G SURF.
[13:35] <sutija> It shows me good info about percent
[13:35] <sutija> but it' s buggy with time
[13:36] <sutija> anyone? :/
[13:41] <TheSheep> sutija: you just need to give it some time to calibrate
[13:42] <sutija> thanks
[13:43] <falken_> Hi all. I've just realised I don't have the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file on my system. Does Ocelot not use Xorg? I have xorg installed when i look in software centre.
[13:48] <TheSheep> falken_: it uses xorg.conf when it's present, but by default it just autodetects all settings
[13:48] <TheSheep> !xorg.conf
[13:48] <TheSheep> hmm
[13:48] <dirtycookie> hello people,
[13:49] <dirtycookie> i editited my fstab file so that it mounts a HD automatically, which it did, but how do i get an icon onto the desktop?
[13:50] <falken_> The result I get when I run that in console is "sudo: /etc/init.d/?dm: command not found"
[13:51] <TheSheep> falken_: I didn't tell you to run any commands
[13:51] <falken_> Oh sorry that was an automatice respose from ubottu I think. I'm a noobcake you see. :)
[13:52] <falken_> response
[13:52] <TheSheep> falken_: I was hoping that it would link to an article explaining about xorg.conf, but it didn't sorry
[13:52] <TheSheep> falken_: there was a wiki page that explained it nicely
[13:52] <falken_> Is there any control panel for xorg I can change settings on? My only problem is that OpenGL is not working at all.
[13:53] <TheSheep> falken_: anyways, if you need to modify any settings, you can just create that file and put whatever you want to change in it
[13:53] <TheSheep> falken_: no control panel
[13:54] <falken_> This is true, but I am very new to all this and would be much happier in editing the text in an already existing file.
[13:54] <falken_> like the xorg.conf I was looking for :(
[13:55] <falken_> Strage thing is: OPenGL worked very well in Lynx, but now not at all in Ocelot.
[13:55] <falken_> Strange
[13:56] <dirtycookie> i editited my fstab file so that it mounts a HD automatically, which it did, but how do i get an icon onto the desktop?
[13:56] <falken_> I am going to switch to gnome on startup and see if it is working in this...
[13:56] <falken_> dirtycookie: I could be wrong, but did you try to right click the desktop and create a launcher?
[13:57] <falken_> I know you should probably see it automatically, but this could be a workaround
[13:57] <falken_> bye all
[13:59] <dirtycookie> falken_: no but wouldnt the OS automatically put that on my desktop?
[14:05] <aLeSD> hi all
[14:05] <aLeSD> does compiz make your desktop faster ?
[14:06] <dirtycookie> aLeSD: no not really
[14:06] <knome> no.
[14:06] <aLeSD> ok
[14:06] <knome> it makes your desktop slower.
[14:09] <dirtycookie> aLeSD: it is only an eyecandy to make it look fancier like win7, if you are a slow or old machine then turn it off if you have the feeling that is laggy
[15:56] <dirtycookie> hello people, i have installed the latest version of xubuntu onto my eeePC successfully, but i have a little problem. I have a 4gb onboard flash that is being mounted not by the fstab file, i changed that by adding an entry like the link here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733191/
[15:56] <dirtycookie>  I restarted the system and then i noticed that it mounted the fs but didnt link it to the desktop
[16:21] <aLeSD> is there something li rhytmbox for lubuntu ?
[16:25] <Sysi> dirtycookie: drag the folder you mounted it to to desktop
[16:26] <falken_> dirtycookie, did my solution earlier not work, to create a launcher?
[16:26] <Sysi> or maybe that doesn't work for creating links.. (IDK, I like my desktop empty)
[16:26] <dirtycookie> falken_: no it didnt
[16:27] <falken_> ok, sorry it didn't work out.
[16:28] <dirtycookie> Sysi: i dragged it to my desktop but it seems that it makes a copy of it
[16:29] <Sysi> launcher should work, command would be like "thunar /path/to/file"
[16:29] <dirtycookie> Sysi: ok ill try that
[16:29] <falken_> what if you rightclick it and select "Send to desktop (create link)"
[16:31] <dirtycookie> falken_: one sec
[16:32] <dirtycookie> falken_: ur suggestion went also good
[16:32] <dirtycookie> thx
[16:33] <falken_> cool
[16:33] <falken_> turns out a complete noob is of some use to you! :)
[16:34] <falken_> Now you must fix my OpenGL issue :)
[16:34] <beuntje> Hi, there, i'm having problems connecting my BCM4313 to my wireless network. Can someone help me?
[16:38] <StormStrikes> I have a Dell Inspiron 1750 that when plugged into power and I shut down, it immediately reboots.  When on battery, it shuts down properly with no reboot.  Any suggestions or things I can check?
[16:40] <beuntje> Does someone knows how to get connected to WLAN with a BCM4313? I see my wireless, but i can not get assosiated to my AP.
[16:41] <Sysi> beuntje: have you installed driver with "Additional drivers"? if not, try that
[16:42] <beuntje> I yust did a clean install, i will install now the Broadcom STA drivers from the additional hardware.
[16:42] <gage_bw> Does Xubuntu have a USB stick installation option like Ubuntu does?
[16:43] <Sysi> yes
[16:43] <falken_> Since upgrading to the newest xubuntu release opengl is not working for me at all. Is there any control panel for it I can tweak? I'm using  an RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] on a toshiba satellite with the latest xubuntu release
[16:43] <Sysi> unetbootin/usb-creator work for xubuntu as well
[16:44] <Sysi> falken_: see and maybe pastebin your ~/.xsession-errors
[16:44] <falken_> ok will try thanks sysi
[16:45] <gage_bw> Great, thanks, Sysi.
[16:45] <gage_bw> I've forgotten how automated those are, going to check them out
[16:46] <beuntje> Sysi: The STA driver seems enabled. but still the same issue
[16:46] <falken_> Sysi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/733252/
[16:49] <falken_> Does that help Sysi?
[16:50] <beuntje> Sysi: seems that after a connection try, the network is hanging...
[16:52] <gage_bw> Sysi: The UNetbootin page says "Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)."  This is obviously kind of confusing.
[16:53] <gage_bw> I want to install it over ubuntu 8.10; i had planned on wiping the HD
[16:54] <gage_bw> (screwy mac hardware, oh well)
[16:54] <gage_bw> Going to get this done
[16:55] <Sysi> mac from usb is tougher cookie, apple officially only supports booting apple software from usb
[16:55] <Sysi> falken_: well, not errors there
[16:57] <falken_> So OpenGL is working?
[16:58] <falken_> When I used Lucid Lunx OpenGL worked fine, but now it does not work at all. OpenGL screensavers not available, and opengl reliant software like Stellarium, Earth, or GNUbik do not launchat all.
[16:59] <falken_> I mean that now I have updated to Ocelot it does not work at all.
[17:37] <gage_bw> Hmm
[17:38] <gage_bw> This drive already has 8.10 bootable. Let's hope it doesn't install too many files.
[17:54] <craigbass1976> There are two user accounts on this box.  Ed is who is usually logged in.  Craig doesn't login via the login screen, but needs to fire up thunderbird and chromium every so often, and does this via ssh -Y craig@localhost app-name  Is there a better way?
[17:55] <craigbass1976> Also, even though chromium is set to be the default browser, whenever a link is clicked in thunderbird, firefox starts up
[17:58] <craigbass1976> I changed Ed's default browser to chromium just to see what happened; no difference
[18:02] <falken_> try going into Setings>Settings Manager> Preferred Applications and setting it there to be Chromium
[18:02] <falken_> I had a similar issue and it worked for me.
[18:05] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to fire up settings manager as craig when ed is logged in?  We've only got one computer here where the poin tof sale actully runs right, and it's the one I'm griping about...
[18:08] <craigbass1976> it's xfce4-settings-manager, but chromium is already the default
[18:23] <puff> I keep missing those little popup messages in the corner of my screen.  Is there any way to review them, view a log of them, etc.
[20:42] <xubuntu547> i'm having problems installing xubuntu ... anyone on to help?
[20:44] <xubuntu547> a quick run down ... i am running the installer now and i have tried 3 times now ... i get some error saying some files weren't copied to the installation and when i reboot it gives me comand prompt looks like a restore .. don't remember what it says
[20:44] <xubuntu547> can't boot up unless i put the cd back in
[20:44] <well_laid_lawn> did you do the iso and cd check?
[20:45] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[20:45] <xubuntu547> dind't return an error
[20:45] <xubuntu547> yes
[20:45] <well_laid_lawn> k
[20:46] <xubuntu547> ah ok ... that sucks then cuz i didn't do the checksum and now i have no OS on my comp haha ... i'm hoping it will work this time
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> it's hard to say what the issue could be but it sounds like you end up at a grub prompt
[20:47] <xubuntu547> i dind't think to do the checksum cuz i have installed ubuntu and kubuntu without probs until xubuntu ... trying them all
[20:47] <xubuntu547> yeah that is what the prompt was
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn> you should be able to fix that from the live cd - this link is useful
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn> !grub
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn> that's if the cd is ok
[20:50] <xubuntu547> ok thanks i'll see if that works if/when this installation fails
[20:51] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[20:53] <xubuntu547> thanks ... if all else fails i guess i'll just reinstall ubuntu and redownload the iso and checksum before putting on cd this time ... of the 3 i have tried i like the xfce workspace best
[20:54] <well_laid_lawn> it is nice :)
[20:55] <xubuntu547> i find it funny that i tried ubuntu in 2008 and i couldn't get the hang of it ... now i just started trying linux again a few days ago and i am catching on rather quick this time
[20:55] <gage_bw> Did you try to avoid the command line the first time?
[20:56] <gage_bw> (just curious)
[20:56] <xubuntu547> the biggest part i don't like about it is my netflix and my ipod
[20:56] <azo> how to desactivate grid icon of xfce ? plz
[20:56] <well_laid_lawn> afaik netflix is not going to work but ipods should be ok
[20:56] <well_laid_lawn> !ipod
[20:57] <xubuntu547> not sure what you mean by that gage ... when it reboots it says it goes straight to the prompt without even showing grub
[20:58] <well_laid_lawn> a handy trick in linux
[20:58] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[20:58] <mnemoc> hi, in 11.10, do you know the package name to get "gnome" mixer in xubuntu? (xfce's is kind of.... primitive)
[20:58] <xubuntu547> i have tried everything i have read up on the ipod thing but i have nano 6th gen (the newest one) and won't sync
[20:58] <gage_bw> xubuntu547: I meant the first time you tried ubuntu, sorry.
[20:59] <well_laid_lawn> azo: you don't want the icons on the desktop to be arranged?
[21:00] <xubuntu547> gage_bw: i was only 18/19 then and was too used to windows to try something new and got frustrated too easily so i gave up within a matter of hours :P
[21:00] <mnemoc> installing gnome-alsamixer alone gives me a binary that segfaults :-/
[21:00] <azo> well_laid_lawn, Yes
[21:01] <holstein> you should see how long it takes me to get frustrated with windows ;)
[21:01] <gage_bw_> Ugh
[21:01] <holstein> xubuntu547: i could find the guy in my LUG that did an ipod sycing presentation
[21:01] <gage_bw_> Everything so far led me to believe that I *wouldn't* need 4GB to install xubuntu!
[21:02] <gage_bw_> Did I just waste a few hours? D:
[21:02] <xubuntu547> well it seems it installed properly this time (i changed a couple settings and manually partitioned my HDDS this time and i dind't get any errors
[21:03] <gage_bw_> It says "for best results", and the orb next to it is green, so I guess I'm okay.
[21:03] <xubuntu547> and of course now i have to get ready for work ... perfect timing i guess haha
[21:04] <xubuntu547> thanks for your help guys
[21:04] <well_laid_lawn> azo: I don't know if you can sorry
[21:05] <azo> it's a options of xfce or thunar ?
[21:06] <puff> I keep missing those little popup messages in the corner of my screen.  Is there any way to review them, view a log of them, or something?
[21:07] <well_laid_lawn> mnemoc: have a look at this - http://bapoumba.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/add-gnome-applets-to-the-xfce-panel/
[21:08] <well_laid_lawn> puff: in the settings-manager - notifications you can increase the timeout
[21:08] <mnemoc> well_laid_lawn: thanks
[21:08] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[21:08] <gage_bw> ubuntu 8.10 gave me some partitions, but I'm not sure why
[21:09] <gage_bw> There's no particular reason to have more than one partition if I'm not dual booting, is there?
[21:09] <well_laid_lawn> maybe one for swap
[21:10] <gage_bw> What's that again?
[21:10] <well_laid_lawn> swap is hard disk space to be used when memory is running short
[21:10] <xubuntu412> hello, can someone tell me a nice tool for incremental backup my system (with a nice GUI please ;-)
[21:10] <well_laid_lawn> !backup
[21:11] <gage_bw> Oh, of course, swap. I wasn't aware it used partitions, though.
[21:11] <gage_bw> This is a low-RAM system. What happens if I don't make a partition?
[21:11] <xubuntu412> thats nice thx well_laid, i take a look
[21:11] <well_laid_lawn> it's normally a partition - useful for hibernation/suspend too
[21:12] <gage_bw> It seems like the installer should take care of that stuff for me
[21:12] <gage_bw> What should I do *during* installation, then?
[21:12] <well_laid_lawn> it will if you choose automatic partitioning iirc
[21:13] <gage_bw> well_laid_lawn: I'll tell you what I see:
[21:13] <well_laid_lawn> I always have a /, home and swap partition
[21:13]  * well_laid_lawn is making a coffee
[21:14] <gage_bw> I clicked 'delete 8.10 and install 11.10'
[21:14] <gage_bw> It says Select drive at the top, then 'The entire disk will be used'
[21:14] <gage_bw> There's an *advanced* partitioning tool, is this the automatic one you spoke of?
[21:15] <homebrewcider> hi there, changed the resolution via the amdcccle, but resolution changes aren't saved on reboot
[21:17] <puff> well_laid_lawn: thanks.
[21:17] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[21:18] <well_laid_lawn> gage_bw: the advanced option is for you to set the number of partitions and size
[21:18] <puff> well_laid_lawn: hm, seems to be set to 10 seconds... they seem to disappear faster.  Perhaps because I'm usually typing something when they pop up?
[21:18] <gage_bw> well_laid_lawn: Will I need the advanced option to have a swap?
[21:19] <well_laid_lawn> gage_bw: it's been ages since I used that but from what I remember no
[21:19] <gage_bw> well_laid_lawn: Okay, I'm going to continue and assume it won't screw me =D
[21:19] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[21:20] <gage_bw> thanks
[21:20] <well_laid_lawn> puff: as a guess you might have slow graphics/cpu and it takes a couple of seconds to get drawn
[21:20] <well_laid_lawn> that's a guess tho
[21:22] <puff> well_laid_lawn: thinkpad t520 using on-board intel graphics (fscking nvdia...)
[21:22] <gage_bw> some font weirdness in the installer
[21:23] <well_laid_lawn> puff: all I can suggest is to increase the timeout a bit...
[21:23] <gage_bw> 's' and 'e' are cut off at the bottom, only the top half of 'x' shows.  I doubt it'll happen once installed, but I wonder if they're aware.
[21:24] <well_laid_lawn> gage_bw: probably due to running the livecd on a slow comp
[21:24] <gage_bw> Interesting...
[21:26] <puff> well_laid_lawn: Cool, thanks again.
[21:26] <well_laid_lawn> :)
[21:26] <gage_bw> I usually used gedit rather than a terminal editor. is there an xfce-based alternative?
[21:27] <Sysi> mousepad/leafpad/geany
[21:27] <gage_bw> gnome stuff runs with perhaps a few artifacts, doesn't it?
[21:27] <well_laid_lawn> shouldn't do
[21:27] <gage_bw> it shouldn't work?
[21:28] <well_laid_lawn> artifacts are graphic driver related not app related
[21:28] <gage_bw> perhaps i used the wrong term
[21:28] <Sysi> should run without flaws
[21:32] <gage_bw> I sure hope 'quiet boot' is on by default...
[21:32]  * gage_bw crosses fingers
[21:33] <well_laid_lawn> it should use "quiet splash"
[21:34] <gage_bw> I didn't see anything so far. I'll remove the USB drive( even though I already gave priority back to the hdd ) and try again
[21:36] <gage_bw> Blinking cursor in the top left. This could be bad. Heading to google.
[21:39] <gage_bw> It can't possibly take 5 minutes to boot. Something went wrong.
[21:54] <well_laid_lawn> gage_bw: when does the blinking cursor show ?
[21:54] <gage_bw> well_laid_lawn: I don't see GRUB any more
[21:54] <gage_bw> if I had a video camera i could see what it said
[21:55] <well_laid_lawn> grub might be set to be hidden
[21:55] <gage_bw> yeah
[21:55] <well_laid_lawn> hold the shift key after the bios post
[21:55] <gage_bw> after? can I hold it the whole time?
[21:55] <well_laid_lawn> sure
[21:56] <gage_bw> no change
[21:56] <well_laid_lawn> you did do the iso/cd check?
[21:57] <gage_bw> check the livecd for errors? no
[21:58] <well_laid_lawn> always do that - sux to find out there was a bad burn after an install...
[21:58] <gage_bw> I've never been 100% sure on how that works
[21:59] <well_laid_lawn> click on the live cd menu entry for the cd check
[21:59] <well_laid_lawn> it's pretty easy
[21:59] <gage_bw> When putting the .iso on the USB drive, does it not check for bad blocks(or whatever) then?
[22:00] <well_laid_lawn> I never use a usb for an install so can't say - you need to check the downloaded iso before transferring it
[22:00] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[22:02] <gage_bw> to check for a bad download, then?
[22:02] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[22:03] <gage_bw> well_laid_lawn: The image check didn't report anything. I looked away for a second and it was done.
[22:03] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[22:04] <gage_bw> 'press any key to restart'
[22:04] <gage_bw> Should I still md5 check?
[22:04] <well_laid_lawn> you might need to repeatedly hit the shift key from near the end of the bios post to try and get the grub menu up
[22:05] <well_laid_lawn> if the live cd check passed you should be ok
[22:06] <gage_bw> I'm using my "Test your might" skills on the shift key. Nothing different.
[22:07] <gage_bw> Unless you think I should move the stick over here and check the md5, I'm going to try booting into xubuntu from the stick
[22:10] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[22:16] <gage_bw> wb. i have successfully booted from the usb
[22:18] <gage_bw> No internet access, though
[22:18] <gage_bw> surely it can autodetect nearby access points
[22:29] <gage_bw> wondering if 11.04 would have the same problem
[22:31] <gage_bw> Oh, the up and down arrows are the connections apparently
[22:31] <gage_bw> no hover info ...
[22:33] <gage_bw> installation take 2
[22:42] <gage_bw> The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions:  /dev/sda
[22:42] <gage_bw> Is this the very USB I'm installing from?
[22:43] <gage_bw> (therefore, should I click "No", 'don't unmount' ?)
[22:54] <zus> is there a way to save notes in xfce-notes? or does it auto save? how do i recall my notes after i close em?
[22:56] <zus> also is there a "force-quit" applet  like in ubuntu for the  pannel?
[22:57] <gage_bw> like in gnome? i sure hope so. I'm in the middle of installing xubuntu myself
[22:57] <zus> i like  xubuntu a lot and  am wondering daily  why havent i got  here before
[22:58] <gage_bw> i'm upgrading because 8.10 isn't supported any more, and I was having trouble installing up-to-date versions of things
[22:59] <zus> im working out the notes bit as we speak...
[23:02] <zus> im not getting tinto the panel... i see a smartbookmark applet... this  looks like itll be helpfull
[23:03] <gage_bw> first install didn't work. This time, I booted from the USB stick, then started the installation from within xubuntu
[23:06] <zus> gage_bw,  i dont see a kill all app, BUT i have right clicked on a "stuck" window and got something similar....but ubuntu's is much better imo.
[23:07] <gage_bw> depends which ubuntu you mean
[23:07] <gage_bw> gnome in earlier ones, unity now
[23:08] <zus> well by ubuntu i did mean gnome, sorry. i forget to specify
[23:10] <gage_bw> apt configuration problem
[23:10] <gage_bw> "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed."
[23:11] <gage_bw> It says it's complete, but does the message still indicate a problem?
[23:11] <zus> that i dont know.
[23:11] <gage_bw> If it goes the same way, I'll boot to a flashing cursor and nothing else
[23:11] <holstein> zus: see if http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1199668.html is still relavant
[23:12] <zus> holstein,  hey bud.
[23:12] <holstein> o/
[23:12] <holstein> yeah, adding a shortcut and putting xkill in it works
[23:12] <holstein> you can put that on the panel it you need
[23:13] <zus> creating my own kill-all app in a sense?
[23:13] <holstein> not really
[23:13] <holstein> just making a custom shortcut to xkill
[23:13] <zus> applet*
[23:13] <holstein> yeah, creating your own little applet for it
[23:14] <zus> how ya been?
[23:15] <holstein> not bad... working a lot, which is fine with me :)
[23:15] <holstein> and you?
[23:15] <zus> i wish i can work alot
[23:15] <zus> had an interesting phone call the other night, about doing my  old  blog talk radio show,
[23:16] <holstein> sounds like fun
[23:18] <zus> and some friends are talking about doing an arch based distro... so i have a butt ton of reading and learning!
[23:32] <gage_bw> o.o
[23:33] <gage_bw> Is that intentional?...
[23:33] <gage_bw> I've seen a monitor go white from the edges, or from the center, before.
[23:34] <gage_bw> The good news is that xubuntu seems to be booting this time. I'm just a tiny bit concerned about my screen.
[23:34] <gage_bw> I hope it's doing some first-boot stuff, because it's taking a while.
[23:38] <gage_bw> At least it's keeping things interesting, failing in new and unexpected ways.
[23:43] <gage_bw> Yep.
[23:44] <gage_bw> The blue 'forest with sunbeams' splash screen with the progress/loading bar bouncing back and forth. It's been at least 5 minutes. Anyone seen this? Any ideas?
[23:55] <EdgEy>  /j #math
[23:55] <EdgEy> sorry :)