| hazmat | wtf oracle branding solaris 11 as the first cloud os.. | 01:13 |
|---|---|---|
| hazmat | crack marketing.. cloud this, cloud that | 01:13 |
| hazmat | cloud linux.. http://bellard.org/jslinux/ ;-) | 01:30 |
| SpamapS | hahaha | 01:32 |
| hazmat | g'morning | 12:47 |
| rog | hazmat: yo | 13:04 |
| hazmat | greetings rog | 13:08 |
| fwereade | hazmat, should we now be marking bugs "fix committed" rather than "fix released"? | 14:04 |
| hazmat | fwereade, good question | 14:04 |
| fwereade | hazmat, heh :) | 14:04 |
| hazmat | fwereade, i'm unsure.. it probably does make sense, but such usage would mean realigning milestones to releases | 14:05 |
| fwereade | hazmat, and plausibly tweaking the kanban board | 14:05 |
| hazmat | fwereade, i was thinking we could have a team meeting today to try and catch up post sprint and that could be a topic of discussion | 14:06 |
| hazmat | fwereade, i'm already on that one ;-) | 14:06 |
| fwereade | hazmat, ah, cool :) | 14:06 |
| hazmat | fwereade, although its more just a new dyanmic readonly lp frontend for juju.. its turning out to be significantly more work than the charm browser | 14:06 |
| fwereade | hazmat, sounds good, I can be around this evening | 14:06 |
| fwereade | hazmat, heh :) | 14:07 |
| hazmat | fwereade, great | 14:07 |
| hazmat | silly pure rest api | 14:07 |
| * niemeyer waves | 14:15 | |
| niemeyer | I've pointed out I'd be late today earlier, now I noticed I was disconnected.. duh | 14:15 |
| hazmat | niemeyer, greetings | 14:19 |
| * hazmat ponders puppet | 14:19 | |
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| hazmat | fwereade, is 6pm local okay for you re meeting? | 14:38 |
| fwereade | hazmat, sure | 14:55 |
| fwereade | hazmat, you marked https://code.launchpad.net/~fwereade/juju/visible-instance-state/+merge/79215 as "needs fixing" a while ago | 15:11 |
| fwereade | hazmat, did I address your concerns? | 15:11 |
| hazmat | fwereade, i'll take a look again in a few, i think so.. i backed away from shared state vocabulary | 15:21 |
| * hazmat feels like its been all email and reviews the last few days, the code itch builds | 15:22 | |
| jimbaker | hazmat, fwereade, team meeting sounds like a good idea today | 15:34 |
| * SpamapS imagines a little code-hungry bug inside hazmat chewing on the base of his spine | 15:52 | |
| niemeyer | fwereade: Is visible-instance-state touching the format of the status output? | 16:00 |
| bloodearnest | hey juju-istas :) | 16:10 |
| bloodearnest | if I wanted to poke/signal a service (e.g. force a manual reload), whats the best way to to it? config-changed and a dummy config value? | 16:10 |
| SpamapS | bloodearnest: right now yes, though I'm thinking there needs to be a "refresh everything" command | 16:15 |
| bloodearnest | SpamapS: kthx. I think a generic "signal" and "handle-signal" or hook (or similar) would be nice | 16:16 |
| SpamapS | bloodearnest: custom hooks have been discussed as well | 16:17 |
| bloodearnest | SpamapS: cool. I'll go with config-changed for now. Is there any way to get what the old config value was for a particular field? | 16:17 |
| SpamapS | bloodearnest: no, I think there's an open bug for that | 16:19 |
| bloodearnest | SpamapS: kthx | 16:19 |
| hazmat | bloodearnest, if you want the old value the hook should store it | 16:32 |
| hazmat | and diff to the new | 16:32 |
| bloodearnest | hazmat: of course - I will do that :) | 16:33 |
| SpamapS | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/84857743/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.juju_0.5%2Bbzr413-1juju1%7Eprecise1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 16:38 |
| SpamapS | looks like juju is broken on precise.. fine on oneiric and natty | 16:40 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, it looks like a conflict between builtin argparse vs a packaged argparse | 16:49 |
| hazmat | odd that it only shows up only those on tests, but i guess those tests stuff the python path and launch a process | 16:50 |
| bcsaller | hazmat: they had updated some strings in the last update of argparse breaking tests as well | 16:57 |
| jimbaker | bcsaller, doesn't look like the issue here however | 16:58 |
| jimbaker | (simply some sort of conflict on the python-argparse package for one of our dependent packages, vs the argparse we use anyway) | 17:00 |
| fwereade | hazmat, meeting time? | 17:08 |
| hazmat | fwereade, indeed | 17:08 |
| hazmat | niemeyer, jimbaker, bcsaller, SpamapS ... meeting time.. anyone else? | 17:09 |
| niemeyer | t+10 | 17:09 |
| jimbaker | hazmat, niemeyer, sounds good | 17:09 |
| jimbaker | rog is also waiting, and i'm sure fwereade is interested | 17:10 |
| hazmat | invites out | 17:11 |
| bcsaller | its giving me a little trouble connecting, trying again | 17:12 |
| hazmat | bcsaller, sending a new invite.. | 17:13 |
| bcsaller | might be faster to just relog, the camera and so on doesn't seem to be working | 17:14 |
| hazmat | bcsaller, it was sort of like you joined and immediately dropped | 17:14 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, robbiew invites out to you guys as well if your interested | 17:14 |
| hazmat | http://www.reviewboard.org/ | 17:16 |
| SpamapS | hazmat: "I'm not supposed to be here today" ;) | 17:21 |
| SpamapS | maybe plan the next meeting more than 24 hours in advance? ;) | 17:21 |
| bcsaller | things are in a surprisingly horrible state of decay here | 17:22 |
| bcsaller | trying to fix | 17:22 |
| hazmat | bcsaller, perhaps try a different browser | 17:31 |
| bcsaller | hazmat: its far worse than that that at this point, anything with GL won't run now, so unity borked. I tried 2d, etc, its not working at all, I have an empty desktop here, but am still trying to connect again | 17:32 |
| bcsaller | I think its crashing the googletalk plugin too though | 17:33 |
| bcsaller | everything was fine yesterday, I so don't need this | 17:34 |
| hazmat | bcsaller, did a reboot help? sounds like a driver problem | 17:35 |
| bcsaller | no, it didn't | 17:36 |
| bcsaller | going to see if I can load an older kernel | 17:36 |
| hazmat | SpamapS, sounds good | 17:37 |
| niemeyer | 1) The requirement is to put things in the same container | 18:35 |
| niemeyer | 2) We use relations so the admin doesn't need a different mental model to create slaves | 18:35 |
| niemeyer | 3) We introduced the idea of juju-info relation so that we don't need the strange idea of promiscuous relations | 18:35 |
| niemeyer | (copied here so I have in logs.. this is the shortest explanation I could come up with, so want to save.. ;) | 18:35 |
| fwereade | cheers all, later | 18:38 |
| hazmat | failure | 18:44 |
| bcsaller | hazmat: re-invited | 18:45 |
| hazmat | bcsaller, thanks | 19:04 |
| niemeyer | hazmat: wtf seems to be fine, btw | 19:54 |
| * niemeyer steps out for a while | 20:07 | |
| nuclearbob | greetings everyone, I'm trying to setup juju using the local/lxc environment, and I'm getting errors when I try to deploy a charm | 20:21 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: what error are you getting? | 20:23 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: if I try to deploy the wordpress charm, I get: | 20:23 |
| nuclearbob | max@WOPR:~$ juju deploy --repository=charms wordpress | 20:23 |
| nuclearbob | User timeout caused connection failure. | 20:23 |
| nuclearbob | 2011-11-10 15:20:22,539 ERROR User timeout caused connection failure. | 20:23 |
| evan_ | Do you have the charms on your local machine? | 20:25 |
| evan_ | i.e. I have my charms in a directory called "lucid" so when I deploy - juju deploy --repository . local:lucid/charmname | 20:26 |
| nuclearbob | I've got them in /home/max/charms | 20:27 |
| nuclearbob | do I need them in oneiric/charms since I'm on oneiric? | 20:28 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: juju deploy --repository . local:path/to/charm should work if i'm not mistaken | 20:30 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: now I'm getting a connection refused, I may have goofed something up, I'll see if I can fix it | 20:31 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: If the bootstrapping node has not yet completed bootstrapping it could cause this error, ok. | 20:35 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: I wasn't getting that error before, but I just started after I had been messing with things | 20:35 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: I can try running the bootstrap again | 20:35 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: it says I'm already bootstrapped | 20:36 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: what does it say when you run "juju status" | 20:37 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: max@WOPR:~$ juju status | 20:37 |
| nuclearbob | could not connect before timeout | 20:37 |
| nuclearbob | 2011-11-10 15:37:42,353 ERROR could not connect before timeout | 20:37 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: Indication the environment needs more time to complete initialization | 20:39 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: more here https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/user-tutorial.html | 20:39 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: thanks, I'll take a look at that | 20:40 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: you bet | 20:40 |
| mpl | niemeyer: hi. sorry I couldn't show up so far, it was a crazy week. I'll probably collapse to bed soon, but starting from tomorrow I'll be a lot more available to talk. | 21:32 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: are you still around? | 21:37 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: yea, did you get it figured out? | 21:40 |
| nuclearbob | eavn_: I got the latest version from the ppa, rebooted, ran juju bootstrap (it said it was already bootstrapped) and gave it about a half an hour, but it's still getting timeouts | 21:41 |
| donspaulding | I sysadmin the servers at my company, around a dozen servers, with heterogenous hardware configs, all running various versions of ubuntu server. What I wanted to build, before I found juju, was a tool that would orchestrate application-level services and their dependencies. Juju seems to fit the bill nicely, except, rather than targeting EC2, or even a private cloud, I'd rather target my own bare-metal servers, with the applicat | 21:44 |
| donspaulding | I saw where recently the ability to deploy to containers was added, I'm just wondering if there's any explicit push toward supporting that for production deployment? The mailing list message I saw on it seemed slanted towards development/debugging usage. | 21:45 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: hmmm I am unsure of why it would be doing that. Maybe someone else here would know | 21:55 |
| nuclearbob | evan_: thanks for pointing me at the tutorial as well, I've got another machine to set it up on, and maybe I can avoid mistakes I might have made on this one | 21:56 |
| evan_ | nuclearbob: no problem. I am fairly new so I'm learning as well. Best of luck to you. Let me know if you figure out the problem | 21:57 |
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