| Supper_slash | good evening | 01:54 |
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| Supper_slash | still no word on graphics work yet. Ho Hum. | 01:55 |
| Riddell | bonsoir | 02:28 |
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| Tm_T | anyone on updating libmsn package? | 11:36 |
| debfx | Tm_T: an update is being prepared in Debian | 11:39 |
| Tm_T | looks like it yes, thanks (: | 11:41 |
| molnarp | hi all, don't know if you have heard about the recent change of the MSN messenger protocol, which affects Kopete | 11:54 |
| molnarp | according to #kopete, a patch is on its way: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CAKcBokvo7zN9v8a3jPdr7iSoh%3D8nXLO%2BFWE2ptkSPS1GGvbvNw%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=libmsn-discuss | 11:54 |
| molnarp | is there anything i could help to get this fix released soon? | 11:57 |
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| Riddell | bonjour | 13:39 |
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| jussi | hrm... so I had an idea.., dunno if its implemented already or no, but anyway, here goes. I would like a "container" plasmoid, where I can put shorcuts to programs. so its like a mini menu, I click it and it brings upa little "menu" of say 4 apps that I dropped in there. | 13:49 |
| jussi | kinda like I have here on my android device: http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20111110-135210-screenshot_2011-11-10_1549.png | 13:52 |
| agateau | Riddell: salut ! | 13:55 |
| agateau | Riddell: I am working on a package for massif-visualizer right now, | 13:55 |
| agateau | Riddell: it embeds its own copy of kdchart, as a few other apps do | 13:55 |
| agateau | Riddell: anyone tried to package kdchart as a standalone library? | 13:55 |
| Riddell | I can't remember but I think we had issues with different packages needing different kdchart versions | 13:58 |
| agateau | oh ok, was it a long time ago? | 13:58 |
| Riddell | yes | 13:59 |
| Riddell | do you remember what else uses it? koffice wasn't it? | 13:59 |
| agateau | I had a quick mail discussion with dfaure who told me they maintain binary compatibility now | 13:59 |
| agateau | I found kmymoney2 does | 13:59 |
| agateau | koffice as well iirc | 13:59 |
| agateau | probably calligra inherited it | 13:59 |
| Riddell | we could package it separately but then you would probably have to fiddle with the build systems in the other applications | 14:02 |
| agateau | indeed, but I guess until there are packages app won't use it, so it's a chicken-and-egg problem | 14:03 |
| Riddell | nice of you to volunteer to solve it :) | 14:04 |
| agateau | what worries me is if applications modified the lib | 14:04 |
| Riddell | is there a definitive upstream release to package? | 14:04 |
| agateau | dfaure gave me this: ftp://customers.kdab.com/pub/kdchart | 14:05 |
| Riddell | oh that's nice, I think the problem historically is that upstream never made releases | 14:05 |
| Riddell | so it's probably worth contacting calligra and kmymoney and saying they should stop using their own copies and just have it as a normal dependency | 14:06 |
| agateau | You can't find the url on the website, there they ask you to register to get access to it | 14:06 |
| agateau | indeed | 14:06 |
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| agateau | will send a mail to them | 14:08 |
| agateau | mmm... it's using qmake :/ | 14:08 |
| agateau | i guess that means writing a FindKDChart.cmake file | 14:09 |
| debfx | or a pkg-config file which is compatible with most build systems | 14:11 |
| afiestas | libmsn should be updated to fix kopete WLM | 14:19 |
| yofel | debian was working on that | 14:19 |
| afiestas | right now the login is failing because M$ modified something, it is patched in latest libmsn, so it hsould be updated | 14:19 |
| afiestas | okiz | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: incredibly late pong | 14:28 |
| Quintasan | agateau: Urgh, qmake? I hope it's not insanely broken like qtscriptgeneratot | 14:30 |
| Riddell | yes pgquiles is looking at the libmsn update for debian, I said I'd look at it in a bit for us but feel free to take that todo item from me | 14:31 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: hey | 14:35 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 14:35 |
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| _Groo_ | Riddell: amarok is ready in peppa ppa | 14:35 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: i asked in amarok.dev for them to give it a test drive, if everything is ok ill ask to move the final one to kubuntu-ppa as soon as they tag it in git | 14:36 |
| Riddell | they seem a bit slow with this tagging | 14:37 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: a tar will do fine | 14:48 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: whatever comes first | 14:48 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: just saying its ready | 14:48 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: this weekend im gonna update and cleanup the calligra debs also | 14:49 |
| * debfx prepares kde-workspace 4.7.3 | 15:16 | |
| debfx | kubuntu-ppa has an old tarball of kde-workspace 4.7.3 | 15:26 |
| rando_uu | hi experts I've been building packages for a plasma widget that consits of many modules like a library, a plasma-dataengine, a krunner plugin and some widgets, for now I've been building each module as a separate package | 15:26 |
| debfx | also we shouldn't use the precise packaging for oneiric | 15:26 |
| rando_uu | now the author provided a global CMakesLists which'll build everything at once, can I use that to automatically built all the different packages, and what kind of package will that be, multiple binary? | 15:27 |
| yofel | debfx: for oneiric use what's in the PPA | 15:28 |
| yofel | and workspace is fine, the fix is there as patch | 15:28 |
| debfx | still it's not 4.7.3, there are a bunch of other commits that aren't in the first tarball | 15:31 |
| yofel | ok | 15:32 |
| debfx | kde-workspace from the ppa has changes from the bzr branch which is wrong because they were intended for precise | 15:33 |
| yofel | true, I missed the patch renaming -.- | 15:42 |
| Riddell | debfx: so version is as 4.7.3a | 15:42 |
| Riddell | hmm, poor rando_uu, needs more patience | 15:43 |
| debfx | yes | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | \o | 15:49 |
| debfx | why do we even upload 4.7.3 to precise when we are not pushing it to oneiric-proposed? | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | Adding to that, are we going to upload 4.8 to precise or stick with 4.7.3 ? | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | ( it is a LTS after all .... ) | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | Oh and since we get more space on the ISO ... browser wars anyone? :P | 15:51 |
| Riddell | we'll have 4.8 in precise, it's quite a good time for an LTS for us really since kdelibs is frozen | 15:52 |
| Riddell | or mostly frozen anyway | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | Yeah, but I'm still not sure as to whether or not it will be a good idea to ship 4.8 | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | imho 4.7.x is more suited for a LTS | 15:53 |
| Riddell | and miss out on all the bug fixes in 4.8? | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | I'm pretty sure all bug fixes to 4.8 will land in 4.7.3 | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | or 4.7.4 ... | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | It's just that 4.8 will probably contain alot of new features that will might have bugs .... | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | And even though we have alot of time till the release, we might not be able to squish all of them | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | * ... of new features that might have bugs ... | 15:56 |
| Riddell | there will be many bug fixes in 4.8 that don't go into 4.7.x, upstream is our main source of bug fixes | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | But why won't they backport these bug fixes? | 15:58 |
| Riddell | because the fixes might be too big to backport, they might depend on new parts in 4.8, or they might not bother since 4.7 is old news | 16:01 |
| Riddell | and for e.g. kdepim we want the latest possible | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | with KDE PIM I agree, but with the other parts of KDE ... not so much | 16:02 |
| Riddell | that the gnomers don't plan to update gnome surprises me, we've had this discussion at past LTSs and the conclusion was always to use the latest stable upstream | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | Hmm ... like I said, I still have my doubts, but since you guys have been doing this for a longer time, you know better ;) | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: what ROM are you running on yer transformer? | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | uh oh | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | I'll need a DVD to install oneiric afresh from now on -.- | 16:15 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: how's your new place and did it exist? | 16:16 |
| Riddell | davmor2: it does exist and so does my flatmate, it's a tropical paradise | 16:17 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: haha! | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: where are you these days? | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | geographically :) | 16:18 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: a bit of France in the carribean | 16:19 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: ps Sue says it should be doable :) | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | whoa | 16:19 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you relocated? | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | or just a vacation? | 16:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: a relocation for a couple of months | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | ah :) | 16:21 |
| Riddell | davmor2: ooh lovely :) | 16:21 |
| Riddell | fregl: how does this look for working around qt-at-spi breakage? http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kde4libs_4.7.2-0ubuntu3.debdiff | 16:41 |
| Riddell | yofel, debfx: can I upload this to oneiric-proposed or should it go into 4.7.3? | 16:42 |
| debfx | Riddell: yep, uploading it to o-proposed is fine | 17:53 |
| bambee | hi | 17:58 |
| bambee | Riddell: so, do you like "la guadeloupe" ? | 17:59 |
| schnelle | can you guys backport patch for this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285803 | 19:03 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 285803 in WLM Plugin "Unable to connect to WLM for 3 days" [Normal,New] | 19:03 |
| schnelle | all msn clients stoped working | 19:03 |
| schnelle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/887104 | 19:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 887104 in libmsn (Ubuntu) "Can not login to Windows Live Messenger" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:06 |
| yofel | debfx: I very much want 4.7.3 in oneiric-proposed, but for that it needs to be in precise | 19:17 |
| debfx | yofel: ok, didn't know that | 19:24 |
| fregl | Riddell: did you see what agateau and I came up with? I think that is the better solution (?) | 19:25 |
| fregl | Riddell: basically using the gsetting value for screen reader active instead of accessibility active | 19:25 |
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| Riddell | fregl: no I didn't see that, where can I find it? | 21:26 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ping again :-D | 21:30 |
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| Quintasan | rbelem: pong | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Tell me what you want and I'll see what I can do about it | 22:59 |
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