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lubuntu214I have limited space so I like to keep things clean. 10gb for lubuntu's system files and 28gb for home.00:00
lubuntu214after awhile junk files can take up a lot of space00:01
phillwlubuntu214: If you are using command line to alter the system, then you are pretty much on your own.00:01
lubuntu214some things I do00:01
lubuntu214like removing all unused kernels except for currently used one00:01
lubuntu214I have a script for that00:02
phillwlubuntu214: always keep the last one.....00:02
lubuntu214yes I know00:02
phillwlubuntu214: pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic00:03
lubuntu214going to connect back here and there with nickname reflexrg00:04
reflexrgback!00:05
reflexrgthis is my new nickname. I was lubuntu214. I plan on keeping this nickname!00:10
LubuntuPoweredthat is hip.02:36
iamfennechi all04:59
iamfennecanyone up04:59
iamfennechey how do i check my ip addresses in terminal ?05:00
JohnDoe_71Rushi05:00
iamfennechi jd05:00
JohnDoe_71Rusifconfig?05:00
iamfennechow are you tonight?05:00
JohnDoe_71Rusfine05:00
iamfennecthanks.. i figured it was something simple05:01
JohnDoe_71Rusiamfennec: or use whois web service if you need ip from provider05:02
iamfennecactually that was exsactly what i needed05:02
iamfennecthere we go05:09
iamfenneccan i use gpart to resize my lubuntu partition from a live cd?06:01
JohnDoe_71Ruslubuntu is the sae ubuntu with lxde06:01
JohnDoe_71Rus*same06:02
JohnDoe_71Ruscan use the same programs, the same commands06:02
iamfennecok well is there a way to resize the lubuntu partion while useing the said partition ?06:03
JohnDoe_71Rusbeter use liveCD06:03
icerootiamfennec: no, it has to e unmounted first06:04
iamfenneci used gpart to resize the windows partition (made it smaller) and i want to make the lubuntu partition bigger06:04
iamfennecok06:04
icerootiamfennec: no problem, but use a live-cd06:04
iamfennecso then if i load the live cd i can... you read my mind06:05
iamfennecjust wanted to make sure my thinking was correct06:05
icerootiamfennec: but a backup is ALWAYS a good idea06:05
iamfenneci'm not worried about whats on this computer06:06
icerootiamfennec: until its lost :)06:06
JohnDoe_71Rusif you move/resize swap, unmount it first. livecd use swap from hdd if can find06:06
iamfennecall my important stuff is on the external hd06:06
iamfennecwhat is swap ? i've seen it there but no idea what it does06:07
JohnDoe_71Rushttps://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space06:09
iamfennecok thank you jd06:09
iamfennechey guys need some more help06:23
iamfenneci'm on a live cd and opened gpart and can resize the partition to go smaller but not bigger06:24
iamfenneci have like 15gb not allocated to anything and i want to add that to the lubuntu partition06:24
brother-phillw: thanks. that was not relevant to the case in point09:28
joeseppHI! I would like to install russian phonetic keyboard layout. How could I do this?10:04
JohnDoe_71Rusjoesepp: why you need russian phonetic key?10:05
joeseppbecause I'm a russian language learner :) not familiar with the standard layout10:06
joeseppJohnDoe_71Rus: Can you help me?10:06
JohnDoe_71Rusi think in language settings or keyboard settings10:07
joeseppFound it: setxkbmap us,ru -variant ,phonetic : яверты :)10:26
l33_hi10:36
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gage_bwHi all. I'm about to install lubuntu from a USB stick, but I have a 4GB drive, and might need the 'alternate' version. How is the alternate version different?14:41
gage_bwWhat programs are missing?14:41
gage_bwThere's a good chance it's nothing I wanted anyway14:42
gage_bwAlso, is there any reason not to go with 11.10?14:46
croquegage_bw: AFAIK the programs installed are the same, it's only the installation process that is different.14:48
gage_bwOh, it takes much less than 4GB on the disk, doesn't it?14:48
gage_bwThat's good news14:48
gage_bwWhat about "installs on systems with less than about 384MiB of RAM " ?14:49
gage_bwIs that the amount required by the installer?14:49
gage_bwWhat I really mean by that question is "Does the alternate installer really just install differently?"14:51
* gage_bw starts download of alternate14:51
Gege71hello, in LXDE appearance / window decoration, i don't have any preview in the right part of windows, could you confirm that ?14:51
croquegage_bw: That's my understanding. The alternate install also has a few other options (luks full disk encryption, etc.)14:52
gage_bwcroque: Neat. Thanks.14:52
audioHi, I'm making this post from an old laptop running 11.10 via a cabled connection.15:19
audioThis machine uses PCMCIA card for wireless15:20
audioHow to enable it?15:20
brother-lspci and see if it is discovered by the kernel. if not you have to work out what driver is missing15:21
audioThe card is recognised by the system OK using System Information-->Network Interfaces as wifio and wlan115:27
audiolspci reports only CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)15:27
iamfennecaudio have you made sure that your simplally network enabled? in the pannal itself15:33
iamfenneci know mind tends to somehow unclick that box from time to time15:33
audioiamfennec: Yup, its ticked15:35
audiobut cannot connect as the option is greyed out15:36
iamfennechmmm15:37
audiowireless networking is working just fine when I use a USB NIC adaptor15:37
audiothe PCMCIA card is getting power but no connection15:38
iamfennecthats werid because i'm useing a wirless pcmcia card as well no prob15:38
audiodoes additional firmware need to be installed?15:39
audioPerhaps I need a specific driver as was suggested by brother15:39
brother-audio: most probably15:41
brother-what vendor and model of the card do you have?15:41
audiobrother-: its a Sitecom WN-PCC-0115:43
audioAlso have D-Link DWL-650+ but have not tested this one yet15:45
brother-doesn't really look promising. some hacks with using the windows drivers might be a solution15:49
brother-haven't done those things the last years so I can not really help you but the general process is the same as for any such driver. google will help if noone else here can15:50
audiobrother-: are you referring to ndis wrapper?15:50
brother-yes15:51
audioOK,  but I am fairly sure that  a Linux native driver exists for the Sitecom as I have seen it working without NDIS Wrapper is a different distro15:53
audioIt might have been Tiny Core or antiX-M1115:55
audioI was just hoping that 11.10 would support them out-of-the-box as it as the distro is aimed at old kit and PCMCIA is old technology.15:56
audio*as it is aimed at old kit15:57
kulushi all16:06
kulusI want to install lubuntu 11.10 64-bit to my netbook16:07
kulusI'm afraid of overwriting my recovery partition or causing win 7 starter to stop working16:07
kulusany suggestions?16:07
kulusi'm using a usb stick to install from16:09
brother-overwrite it and get more space on your new and shiny lubuntu setup.16:09
brother-good luck!16:09
brother-=)16:09
brother-there are no shortcuts. you must know what partition the recovery data is located on.16:10
kulusunfortuneately some programs still only work in windows16:10
kulusplus I need windows 7 for a job16:10
brother-a POSSIBLE way wuld be to boot and inspect the partitions and when you know what files are on what partition you are ready to go ahead16:10
kuluswill default settings work?16:10
kuluswould partitioning the windows main drive from windows help16:11
kulusand then I could just install in the empty space16:12
kuluswindows 7 is already defragged16:13
kulusbrother - is there a site with suggestions for an install in my situation that you know of...have you ever heard of anyone having problems with this setup before?16:14
kulussorry if I'm asking too many questions...16:15
brother-kulus: no idea.16:15
kulusthanks for your help16:16
kulusI'm going to research a bit on the net16:16
kulusthanks again...16:16
osmodivsHello. I have a Acer ONE D250 Netbook, after an upgrade in the upgrade manager, I cant boot to Lubuntu (11.10), I am in recovery mode, What can I do to repair this?16:33
bioterrorand what does it say?16:33
gage_bwcan't boot in what way, osmodivs ?16:34
bioterror!boot-repair16:35
bioterrorI hate that bot16:35
bioterrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair16:35
bioterror!bootrepair16:35
osmodivsBoot as in, get IN Lubuntu, there is only the Lubuntu bootsplash image, and it just stays there "loading"16:36
gage_bwsounds like what happened to me with xubuntu yesterday. =(16:36
bioterrorhere we go16:37
bioterrormore info16:37
bioterrorthat sounds more like you have problems with graphics, I think16:37
bioterrorwhen it hangs in the bootsplash, can you go to tty1?16:37
bioterrorfor example16:37
gage_bwsigh16:54
gage_bw"No valid ubuntu cd-rom"16:55
gage_bwI'm disappointed at the lack of useful feedback on this error message, too. (not that it's relevant here)16:57
osmodivsNah, that boot repair didn't fix it. What could be wrong with my system, is there a way to find out reading a log or something?16:58
bioterrorThu18:37 <bioterror> when it hangs in the bootsplash, can you go to tty1?16:58
osmodivsI see I am not the only one with this problem17:00
bioterrorcan you go to the tty1?17:00
bioterroryes or no17:01
osmodivsbioterror: i'll asume you are talking to me, yes.17:02
osmodivsbioterror: Well i guess, thats always possible17:02
bioterroryou can try for example: sudo service lxdm start17:03
osmodivsbioterror: Is that gonna get me to Lubuntu or LXDE, because right now I am in the default session, wich does not let me even browse a USB pendrive since "I am not authorized"17:05
bioterrorit will start lxdm17:06
bioterrorI'm interested in errors17:06
gage_bwHey again, all17:12
gage_bwUsing unetbootin to install, I get 'Install' and 'Install Lubuntu' options. What's up with that?17:12
osmodivsWell, let me try that and see what happens17:12
aLeSDhi all17:17
aLeSDis there something lighter than banshee ?17:17
Osmodivsbioterror: i'm in Lubuntu. why did this happened?17:17
Osmodivsbioterror: Am I gonna have to do this everytime I try to enter Lubuntu?17:18
bioterrorI dont know17:18
bioterrorlook for /var/log/17:19
bioterrorthere's Xorg.0.log17:19
bioterrorand messages17:19
bioterrorand something else17:19
bioterrorlook for errors17:19
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VITAL1051Hello everybody! Is it possible to set different walls on each desktop in lubuntu 11.10? I searched in web, but found nothing.17:50
brother-VITAL1051: not with pcmanfm as the wallpaper displayer. you can probably use some other tool to show the wallpaper and achieve that17:59
KutakizukariI used the Synaptic Software Manager to do a full removal of Chromium because it freezes, when I install it again to get rid of the plugins they are still there. How do I remove fully so when I install it again the plugins will no longer be there?18:03
KutakizukariSynaptic Software Manger = Synaptic Package Manager18:03
VITAL1051brother-: Is there something lightweight? I think it must be from xfce. Or something else?18:04
brother-Kutakizukari: remove the chromium directory in .config18:04
brother-VITAL1051: the keyword was "probably"18:04
brother-VITAL1051: I have no idea how to do such a thing. maybe someone else in here knows. if not you have to search in other places18:05
gage_bwHm, I'll ask again:   Using unetbootin to install, I get 'Install' AND 'Install Lubuntu' options. What's up with that?18:05
VITAL1051brother-: Thanks)18:05
gage_bwI wouldn't bother asking if I wasn't already having problems with installation - just want to make sure that everything is right18:05
Kutakizukaribrother-, where do I find that directory?18:10
Kutakizukarifound it18:12
krasnozerhi, I've been using lubuntu for a few days and I have a problem with the systray: there is tons of whitespace in it18:51
krasnozerit seems to "grow" anytime I got a notificaiton popup18:52
krasnozerany tips for this weird problem ?18:52
krasnozerright now it takes about 1/4 of the screen width, with only 4-5 icons on it18:53
soroushI want to have an ubuntu which has both gnome and lxmd desktiop . is there a diference if I install lubuntu-amd64 and then gnome desktop or ubuntu-64bit and then lxmd?19:22
soroushI mean if there is a difference in performance19:22
soroush*lxde19:23
l33_;)19:25
AmberJHow can I add a keyboard shortcut to start a program in lubuntu 11.04?19:41
AmberJs/program/script19:42
brother-AmberJ: edit the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml19:49
brother-AmberJ: it is fairly obvious19:49
AmberJThanks brother- :)19:52
brother-right forgot the link19:53
brother-http://wiki.lxde.org/en/FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_hotkeys.3F19:53
brother-http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Openbox#Create_custom_keyboard_shortcuts19:53
AmberJThanks again :)19:53
brother-should cover it19:53
AmberJNow I can use dmenu with lubuntu ;)19:54
l33_nite21:16
sannaHi! I changed the behaviour of the desktop interaction, and I cannot find the setting to turn it back.21:59
sannaIf I right-click on the desktop it says: Terminal emulator, Web browser etc, and it didn't before, but I have no idea how to reverse it.22:02
phillwsanna: sorry, I do have it running in my VM. If you are patient, one of the guys should pop on with an answer.22:03
phillw*I do not*22:03
sannaThanks, I'll patiently wait then!22:04
phillwsanna: if you do get a reply, then ask on the mailing list. We do not bite and if it becomes a FAQ we will add it to the FAQ area. The mailing list can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs also Amjjawad is keeping a good live thread on the main forum area.22:07
phillwsanna: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=184475522:08
ScottyKGreetings! I have Ubuntu 11.10 on my kids computer. can anyone recommend a good program that will track time on the computer, and kick them off after set time has been reached? Thanks..23:04
ScottyKmake that Lubuntu 11.1023:04
wxlScottyK: i think you already got what you need http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/en/man5/timeouts.5.html23:07
wxlScottyK: there's also timekpr but its not in canonical's repos https://launchpad.net/timekpr23:08
ScottyKwxl - thanks for the links, I'll check them out!23:09
wxlScottyK: please let us know how it all works out23:10
wxli for one would really like to know23:10
ScottyKtheir webpage says timekpr is no longer being updated.23:10
ScottyKmight have better luck with the first one23:11
wxli don't think qimo includes time limits23:11
wxlhave you seen the ubuntu distro for kids?23:11
ScottyKqimo?23:12
ScottyKseveral years ago.. forgot about it!23:12
wxlqimo4kids.com23:12
wxlit's not lubuntu tho23:12
ScottyKi like Lubuntu on hte kids computer because it's older hardware,23:12
ScottyKI tried Kubuntu and Ubuntu 11.10, and the hardware couldn't handle it23:12
ScottyKbut so far Lubuntu has been breezing alsong23:13
wxlinteresting23:13
wxlthe qimo bits are into the ubuntu repos http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qimo23:13
wxlit doesn't look like it's requesting a bunch of gnome garbage23:14
wxlxfce might work23:14
wxland you could probably lubuntize it23:14
wxlmight take a little effort23:14
wxlof course like i said i don't think it has parental controls23:15
wxlin terms of timelimits23:15
ScottyKCan you recommed a distro that has parental controls built in, and runs on older hardware (Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ, 2gb RAM)23:16
wxlunfortunately i can't23:17
wxllubuntu has been fantastic in dealing with old hardware23:17
ScottyKwhich is why it was recommended for the kids computer.23:18
ScottyKI think writing my own /etc/timeouts file it will accomplish what I want23:18
wxlyeah i think it's the right thing23:19
wxloh and it has a warn too23:19
wxlnice23:19
wxltoo bad there's no warnfreq23:20
ScottyKI use OpenDNS, and with a good /etc/hosts file it's pretty locked down. I like it23:21
wxlsounds like you know you're way around23:22
wxl/etc/timeouts will be no problem for you :D23:22
wxli use dyndns's servers23:22
ScottyKthanks! What I really love about linux is that I can let my kids just have at it23:22
ScottyKI have enough old boxes laying around that they get to play on23:22
wxli wish the g3 ppc powerbook i have had an intel chip23:23
ScottyKin fact they get annoyed when they go to thier friends houses and they  only have windows23:23
wxli'm gonna put linux (or possibly unix) on it and give it to my daughter but i know the #1 thing she'll complain about.. no flash :D23:23
wxlmy daughter LOVES tux23:24
ScottyKyeah, my kids are all over the kids games!23:24
ScottyKright now the current favorite is super tux 223:24
wxlwe used to have a beta of super tux 2 that had the forest world but last time we downloaded it wasn't there23:25
wxlso i don't knwo what's up with that and now i can't find the beta again which sucks royal23:25
wxlour new favourite is freegish23:25
wxlhave you tried that????23:25
ScottyKfreegish? havn't heard of it. querying now...23:26
wxloh it's awesome!23:26
wxlyou're this ball of tar and it's this whole side-scroller physics puzzle game23:26
wxlit is utterly fantastic23:26
wxli cannot WAIT to build some levels on that23:26
wxland then there's the lemmings clone.. forgot the name23:27
wxlpingus23:27
ScottyKI'll have to add that one. my son will be all over it23:27
ScottyKpingus..23:27
ScottyKLooks like they will like that one also!23:28
ScottyKdinnertime.. catch ya later...23:29
wxlsee yuz23:29

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