[00:00] <lubuntu214> I have limited space so I like to keep things clean. 10gb for lubuntu's system files and 28gb for home.
[00:01] <lubuntu214> after awhile junk files can take up a lot of space
[00:01] <phillw> lubuntu214: If you are using command line to alter the system, then you are pretty much on your own.
[00:01] <lubuntu214> some things I do
[00:01] <lubuntu214> like removing all unused kernels except for currently used one
[00:02] <lubuntu214> I have a script for that
[00:02] <phillw> lubuntu214: always keep the last one.....
[00:02] <lubuntu214> yes I know
[00:03] <phillw> lubuntu214: pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic
[00:04] <lubuntu214> going to connect back here and there with nickname reflexrg
[00:05] <reflexrg> back!
[00:10] <reflexrg> this is my new nickname. I was lubuntu214. I plan on keeping this nickname!
[02:36] <LubuntuPowered> that is hip.
[04:59] <iamfennec> hi all
[04:59] <iamfennec> anyone up
[05:00] <iamfennec> hey how do i check my ip addresses in terminal ?
[05:00] <JohnDoe_71Rus> hi
[05:00] <iamfennec> hi jd
[05:00] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ifconfig?
[05:00] <iamfennec> how are you tonight?
[05:00] <JohnDoe_71Rus> fine
[05:01] <iamfennec> thanks.. i figured it was something simple
[05:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> iamfennec: or use whois web service if you need ip from provider
[05:02] <iamfennec> actually that was exsactly what i needed
[05:09] <iamfennec> there we go
[06:01] <iamfennec> can i use gpart to resize my lubuntu partition from a live cd?
[06:01] <JohnDoe_71Rus> lubuntu is the sae ubuntu with lxde
[06:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> *same
[06:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> can use the same programs, the same commands
[06:03] <iamfennec> ok well is there a way to resize the lubuntu partion while useing the said partition ?
[06:03] <JohnDoe_71Rus> beter use liveCD
[06:04] <iceroot> iamfennec: no, it has to e unmounted first
[06:04] <iamfennec> i used gpart to resize the windows partition (made it smaller) and i want to make the lubuntu partition bigger
[06:04] <iamfennec> ok
[06:04] <iceroot> iamfennec: no problem, but use a live-cd
[06:05] <iamfennec> so then if i load the live cd i can... you read my mind
[06:05] <iamfennec> just wanted to make sure my thinking was correct
[06:05] <iceroot> iamfennec: but a backup is ALWAYS a good idea
[06:06] <iamfennec> i'm not worried about whats on this computer
[06:06] <iceroot> iamfennec: until its lost :)
[06:06] <JohnDoe_71Rus> if you move/resize swap, unmount it first. livecd use swap from hdd if can find
[06:06] <iamfennec> all my important stuff is on the external hd
[06:07] <iamfennec> what is swap ? i've seen it there but no idea what it does
[06:09] <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[06:09] <iamfennec> ok thank you jd
[06:23] <iamfennec> hey guys need some more help
[06:24] <iamfennec> i'm on a live cd and opened gpart and can resize the partition to go smaller but not bigger
[06:24] <iamfennec> i have like 15gb not allocated to anything and i want to add that to the lubuntu partition
[09:28] <brother-> phillw: thanks. that was not relevant to the case in point
[10:04] <joesepp> HI! I would like to install russian phonetic keyboard layout. How could I do this?
[10:05] <JohnDoe_71Rus> joesepp: why you need russian phonetic key?
[10:06] <joesepp> because I'm a russian language learner :) not familiar with the standard layout
[10:06] <joesepp> JohnDoe_71Rus: Can you help me?
[10:07] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i think in language settings or keyboard settings
[10:26] <joesepp> Found it: setxkbmap us,ru -variant ,phonetic : яверты :)
[10:36] <l33_> hi
[14:41] <gage_bw> Hi all. I'm about to install lubuntu from a USB stick, but I have a 4GB drive, and might need the 'alternate' version. How is the alternate version different?
[14:41] <gage_bw> What programs are missing?
[14:42] <gage_bw> There's a good chance it's nothing I wanted anyway
[14:46] <gage_bw> Also, is there any reason not to go with 11.10?
[14:48] <croque> gage_bw: AFAIK the programs installed are the same, it's only the installation process that is different.
[14:48] <gage_bw> Oh, it takes much less than 4GB on the disk, doesn't it?
[14:48] <gage_bw> That's good news
[14:49] <gage_bw> What about "installs on systems with less than about 384MiB of RAM " ?
[14:49] <gage_bw> Is that the amount required by the installer?
[14:51] <gage_bw> What I really mean by that question is "Does the alternate installer really just install differently?"
[14:51]  * gage_bw starts download of alternate
[14:51] <Gege71> hello, in LXDE appearance / window decoration, i don't have any preview in the right part of windows, could you confirm that ?
[14:52] <croque> gage_bw: That's my understanding. The alternate install also has a few other options (luks full disk encryption, etc.)
[14:52] <gage_bw> croque: Neat. Thanks.
[15:19] <audio> Hi, I'm making this post from an old laptop running 11.10 via a cabled connection.
[15:20] <audio> This machine uses PCMCIA card for wireless
[15:20] <audio> How to enable it?
[15:21] <brother-> lspci and see if it is discovered by the kernel. if not you have to work out what driver is missing
[15:27] <audio> The card is recognised by the system OK using System Information-->Network Interfaces as wifio and wlan1
[15:27] <audio> lspci reports only CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI4410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[15:33] <iamfennec> audio have you made sure that your simplally network enabled? in the pannal itself
[15:33] <iamfennec> i know mind tends to somehow unclick that box from time to time
[15:35] <audio> iamfennec: Yup, its ticked
[15:36] <audio> but cannot connect as the option is greyed out
[15:37] <iamfennec> hmmm
[15:37] <audio> wireless networking is working just fine when I use a USB NIC adaptor
[15:38] <audio> the PCMCIA card is getting power but no connection
[15:38] <iamfennec> thats werid because i'm useing a wirless pcmcia card as well no prob
[15:39] <audio> does additional firmware need to be installed?
[15:39] <audio> Perhaps I need a specific driver as was suggested by brother
[15:41] <brother-> audio: most probably
[15:41] <brother-> what vendor and model of the card do you have?
[15:43] <audio> brother-: its a Sitecom WN-PCC-01
[15:45] <audio> Also have D-Link DWL-650+ but have not tested this one yet
[15:49] <brother-> doesn't really look promising. some hacks with using the windows drivers might be a solution
[15:50] <brother-> haven't done those things the last years so I can not really help you but the general process is the same as for any such driver. google will help if noone else here can
[15:50] <audio> brother-: are you referring to ndis wrapper?
[15:51] <brother-> yes
[15:53] <audio> OK,  but I am fairly sure that  a Linux native driver exists for the Sitecom as I have seen it working without NDIS Wrapper is a different distro
[15:55] <audio> It might have been Tiny Core or antiX-M11
[15:56] <audio> I was just hoping that 11.10 would support them out-of-the-box as it as the distro is aimed at old kit and PCMCIA is old technology.
[15:57] <audio> *as it is aimed at old kit
[16:06] <kulus> hi all
[16:07] <kulus> I want to install lubuntu 11.10 64-bit to my netbook
[16:07] <kulus> I'm afraid of overwriting my recovery partition or causing win 7 starter to stop working
[16:07] <kulus> any suggestions?
[16:09] <kulus> i'm using a usb stick to install from
[16:09] <brother-> overwrite it and get more space on your new and shiny lubuntu setup.
[16:09] <brother-> good luck!
[16:09] <brother-> =)
[16:10] <brother-> there are no shortcuts. you must know what partition the recovery data is located on.
[16:10] <kulus> unfortuneately some programs still only work in windows
[16:10] <kulus> plus I need windows 7 for a job
[16:10] <brother-> a POSSIBLE way wuld be to boot and inspect the partitions and when you know what files are on what partition you are ready to go ahead
[16:10] <kulus> will default settings work?
[16:11] <kulus> would partitioning the windows main drive from windows help
[16:12] <kulus> and then I could just install in the empty space
[16:13] <kulus> windows 7 is already defragged
[16:14] <kulus> brother - is there a site with suggestions for an install in my situation that you know of...have you ever heard of anyone having problems with this setup before?
[16:15] <kulus> sorry if I'm asking too many questions...
[16:15] <brother-> kulus: no idea.
[16:16] <kulus> thanks for your help
[16:16] <kulus> I'm going to research a bit on the net
[16:16] <kulus> thanks again...
[16:33] <osmodivs> Hello. I have a Acer ONE D250 Netbook, after an upgrade in the upgrade manager, I cant boot to Lubuntu (11.10), I am in recovery mode, What can I do to repair this?
[16:33] <bioterror> and what does it say?
[16:34] <gage_bw> can't boot in what way, osmodivs ?
[16:35] <bioterror> !boot-repair
[16:35] <bioterror> I hate that bot
[16:35] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:35] <bioterror> !bootrepair
[16:36] <osmodivs> Boot as in, get IN Lubuntu, there is only the Lubuntu bootsplash image, and it just stays there "loading"
[16:36] <gage_bw> sounds like what happened to me with xubuntu yesterday. =(
[16:37] <bioterror> here we go
[16:37] <bioterror> more info
[16:37] <bioterror> that sounds more like you have problems with graphics, I think
[16:37] <bioterror> when it hangs in the bootsplash, can you go to tty1?
[16:37] <bioterror> for example
[16:54] <gage_bw> sigh
[16:55] <gage_bw> "No valid ubuntu cd-rom"
[16:57] <gage_bw> I'm disappointed at the lack of useful feedback on this error message, too. (not that it's relevant here)
[16:58] <osmodivs> Nah, that boot repair didn't fix it. What could be wrong with my system, is there a way to find out reading a log or something?
[16:58] <bioterror> Thu18:37 <bioterror> when it hangs in the bootsplash, can you go to tty1?
[17:00] <osmodivs> I see I am not the only one with this problem
[17:00] <bioterror> can you go to the tty1?
[17:01] <bioterror> yes or no
[17:02] <osmodivs> bioterror: i'll asume you are talking to me, yes.
[17:02] <osmodivs> bioterror: Well i guess, thats always possible
[17:03] <bioterror> you can try for example: sudo service lxdm start
[17:05] <osmodivs> bioterror: Is that gonna get me to Lubuntu or LXDE, because right now I am in the default session, wich does not let me even browse a USB pendrive since "I am not authorized"
[17:06] <bioterror> it will start lxdm
[17:06] <bioterror> I'm interested in errors
[17:12] <gage_bw> Hey again, all
[17:12] <gage_bw> Using unetbootin to install, I get 'Install' and 'Install Lubuntu' options. What's up with that?
[17:12] <osmodivs> Well, let me try that and see what happens
[17:17] <aLeSD> hi all
[17:17] <aLeSD> is there something lighter than banshee ?
[17:17] <Osmodivs> bioterror: i'm in Lubuntu. why did this happened?
[17:18] <Osmodivs> bioterror: Am I gonna have to do this everytime I try to enter Lubuntu?
[17:18] <bioterror> I dont know
[17:19] <bioterror> look for /var/log/
[17:19] <bioterror> there's Xorg.0.log
[17:19] <bioterror> and messages
[17:19] <bioterror> and something else
[17:19] <bioterror> look for errors
[17:50] <VITAL1051> Hello everybody! Is it possible to set different walls on each desktop in lubuntu 11.10? I searched in web, but found nothing.
[17:59] <brother-> VITAL1051: not with pcmanfm as the wallpaper displayer. you can probably use some other tool to show the wallpaper and achieve that
[18:03] <Kutakizukari> I used the Synaptic Software Manager to do a full removal of Chromium because it freezes, when I install it again to get rid of the plugins they are still there. How do I remove fully so when I install it again the plugins will no longer be there?
[18:03] <Kutakizukari> Synaptic Software Manger = Synaptic Package Manager
[18:04] <VITAL1051> brother-: Is there something lightweight? I think it must be from xfce. Or something else?
[18:04] <brother-> Kutakizukari: remove the chromium directory in .config
[18:04] <brother-> VITAL1051: the keyword was "probably"
[18:05] <brother-> VITAL1051: I have no idea how to do such a thing. maybe someone else in here knows. if not you have to search in other places
[18:05] <gage_bw> Hm, I'll ask again:   Using unetbootin to install, I get 'Install' AND 'Install Lubuntu' options. What's up with that?
[18:05] <VITAL1051> brother-: Thanks)
[18:05] <gage_bw> I wouldn't bother asking if I wasn't already having problems with installation - just want to make sure that everything is right
[18:10] <Kutakizukari> brother-, where do I find that directory?
[18:12] <Kutakizukari> found it
[18:51] <krasnozer> hi, I've been using lubuntu for a few days and I have a problem with the systray: there is tons of whitespace in it
[18:52] <krasnozer> it seems to "grow" anytime I got a notificaiton popup
[18:52] <krasnozer> any tips for this weird problem ?
[18:53] <krasnozer> right now it takes about 1/4 of the screen width, with only 4-5 icons on it
[19:22] <soroush> I want to have an ubuntu which has both gnome and lxmd desktiop . is there a diference if I install lubuntu-amd64 and then gnome desktop or ubuntu-64bit and then lxmd?
[19:22] <soroush> I mean if there is a difference in performance
[19:23] <soroush> *lxde
[19:25] <l33_> ;)
[19:41] <AmberJ> How can I add a keyboard shortcut to start a program in lubuntu 11.04?
[19:42] <AmberJ> s/program/script
[19:49] <brother-> AmberJ: edit the file ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[19:49] <brother-> AmberJ: it is fairly obvious
[19:52] <AmberJ> Thanks brother- :)
[19:53] <brother-> right forgot the link
[19:53] <brother-> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_hotkeys.3F
[19:53] <brother-> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Openbox#Create_custom_keyboard_shortcuts
[19:53] <AmberJ> Thanks again :)
[19:53] <brother-> should cover it
[19:54] <AmberJ> Now I can use dmenu with lubuntu ;)
[21:16] <l33_> nite
[21:59] <sanna> Hi! I changed the behaviour of the desktop interaction, and I cannot find the setting to turn it back.
[22:02] <sanna> If I right-click on the desktop it says: Terminal emulator, Web browser etc, and it didn't before, but I have no idea how to reverse it.
[22:03] <phillw> sanna: sorry, I do have it running in my VM. If you are patient, one of the guys should pop on with an answer.
[22:03] <phillw> *I do not*
[22:04] <sanna> Thanks, I'll patiently wait then!
[22:07] <phillw> sanna: if you do get a reply, then ask on the mailing list. We do not bite and if it becomes a FAQ we will add it to the FAQ area. The mailing list can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs also Amjjawad is keeping a good live thread on the main forum area.
[22:08] <phillw> sanna: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755
[23:04] <ScottyK> Greetings! I have Ubuntu 11.10 on my kids computer. can anyone recommend a good program that will track time on the computer, and kick them off after set time has been reached? Thanks..
[23:04] <ScottyK> make that Lubuntu 11.10
[23:07] <wxl> ScottyK: i think you already got what you need http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/en/man5/timeouts.5.html
[23:08] <wxl> ScottyK: there's also timekpr but its not in canonical's repos https://launchpad.net/timekpr
[23:09] <ScottyK> wxl - thanks for the links, I'll check them out!
[23:10] <wxl> ScottyK: please let us know how it all works out
[23:10] <wxl> i for one would really like to know
[23:10] <ScottyK> their webpage says timekpr is no longer being updated.
[23:11] <ScottyK> might have better luck with the first one
[23:11] <wxl> i don't think qimo includes time limits
[23:11] <wxl> have you seen the ubuntu distro for kids?
[23:12] <ScottyK> qimo?
[23:12] <ScottyK> several years ago.. forgot about it!
[23:12] <wxl> qimo4kids.com
[23:12] <wxl> it's not lubuntu tho
[23:12] <ScottyK> i like Lubuntu on hte kids computer because it's older hardware,
[23:12] <ScottyK> I tried Kubuntu and Ubuntu 11.10, and the hardware couldn't handle it
[23:13] <ScottyK> but so far Lubuntu has been breezing alsong
[23:13] <wxl> interesting
[23:13] <wxl> the qimo bits are into the ubuntu repos http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qimo
[23:14] <wxl> it doesn't look like it's requesting a bunch of gnome garbage
[23:14] <wxl> xfce might work
[23:14] <wxl> and you could probably lubuntize it
[23:14] <wxl> might take a little effort
[23:15] <wxl> of course like i said i don't think it has parental controls
[23:15] <wxl> in terms of timelimits
[23:16] <ScottyK> Can you recommed a distro that has parental controls built in, and runs on older hardware (Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ, 2gb RAM)
[23:17] <wxl> unfortunately i can't
[23:17] <wxl> lubuntu has been fantastic in dealing with old hardware
[23:18] <ScottyK> which is why it was recommended for the kids computer.
[23:18] <ScottyK> I think writing my own /etc/timeouts file it will accomplish what I want
[23:19] <wxl> yeah i think it's the right thing
[23:19] <wxl> oh and it has a warn too
[23:19] <wxl> nice
[23:20] <wxl> too bad there's no warnfreq
[23:21] <ScottyK> I use OpenDNS, and with a good /etc/hosts file it's pretty locked down. I like it
[23:22] <wxl> sounds like you know you're way around
[23:22] <wxl> /etc/timeouts will be no problem for you :D
[23:22] <wxl> i use dyndns's servers
[23:22] <ScottyK> thanks! What I really love about linux is that I can let my kids just have at it
[23:22] <ScottyK> I have enough old boxes laying around that they get to play on
[23:23] <wxl> i wish the g3 ppc powerbook i have had an intel chip
[23:23] <ScottyK> in fact they get annoyed when they go to thier friends houses and they  only have windows
[23:23] <wxl> i'm gonna put linux (or possibly unix) on it and give it to my daughter but i know the #1 thing she'll complain about.. no flash :D
[23:24] <wxl> my daughter LOVES tux
[23:24] <ScottyK> yeah, my kids are all over the kids games!
[23:24] <ScottyK> right now the current favorite is super tux 2
[23:25] <wxl> we used to have a beta of super tux 2 that had the forest world but last time we downloaded it wasn't there
[23:25] <wxl> so i don't knwo what's up with that and now i can't find the beta again which sucks royal
[23:25] <wxl> our new favourite is freegish
[23:25] <wxl> have you tried that????
[23:26] <ScottyK> freegish? havn't heard of it. querying now...
[23:26] <wxl> oh it's awesome!
[23:26] <wxl> you're this ball of tar and it's this whole side-scroller physics puzzle game
[23:26] <wxl> it is utterly fantastic
[23:26] <wxl> i cannot WAIT to build some levels on that
[23:27] <wxl> and then there's the lemmings clone.. forgot the name
[23:27] <wxl> pingus
[23:27] <ScottyK> I'll have to add that one. my son will be all over it
[23:27] <ScottyK> pingus..
[23:28] <ScottyK> Looks like they will like that one also!
[23:29] <ScottyK> dinnertime.. catch ya later...
[23:29] <wxl> see yuz